Working with Tigran, favorite ice cream and MARROW (QnA #1)
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2021
- Question time!
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About the odd subdivisions, Shawn Crowder (Sungazer's drummer) has a Spotify playlist called Quintuplet Swing consisting of songs based on quintuplets and septuplets. It's pretty good!
Yup great playlist!
When Yogev can't find a pattern you know it's bad. Been listening on Marrow on repeat since watching your video, and this rush of a song is quickly becoming an all time favourite.
Soul Burn. Yep, I felt that
Do you even realise that you have become a drummer that drummers want to be like?
you're amazing! keep it up!
Wow, thanks!
You, sir, are extremely inspiring. Thank you for that. 🙏
My pleasure!
excited for that Car Bomb vid!!
Looking forward to Marrow! And speaking of which, ever since I first heard it I've imagined it in a small jazz trio setting with double bass, piano and drums (and possibly spoken words or something for lyrics). Realising now how hard it is to perform I'd still implore you to make it happen. Please, please, please make that version come to life! Pretty please. With sugar on top.
Oh I'm super down to do that !!
@@YogevGabay You are my favourite person of today. Thank you and thank you again!
@@magnuskwilhelmsson hahahahaha you up to play the upright part?
@@YogevGabay Dude I would absolutely LOVE that! Just give me 5-10 years of learning to play the bass and I'll get back to you 😅
Cool I'll be around !
By using the Magical word 'TABLA', you have summoned all the Indian Masala Gang!
Love ur stuff btw
I spent an hour at least at work trying to decipher a “pattern” for the last riff of Marrow. What I came up with looks more like Morse code lol
Lol! Funny! 😂
If you ever wanted a rather interesting very complex piece to look at, 8 by Uneven Structure is a great EP for grabbing out of and dissecting. Their debut album, Februus, could also have a few interesting parts.
5:10 good answer
you’re the bestttt man, so inspiring! Thanks for working so hard on your channel and bending our minds and sense of time 🤘
I had no idea you were one of the drummers in Drip, that's one of my all time fav songs, I've been enjoying your meshuggah breakdowns and reccomendations but that actually gave me chills. Phenomenal work.
Ohhhh man I'm happy you like the videos!
And yeah, that session was phenomenal. Also splitting drums with another drummer was epicccc
@@YogevGabay sometimes the videos go into explaining theory more than I need, but I went to a berklee subsidiary, so I don’t need it, but that’s a me problem, and your breakdowns of rhythms are amazing.
The fact that you even TRIED Meshuggah - I, is insane.
Absolutely amazing channel, amazing work, and it gave me shivers when you said that you worked with Tigran in one of my fav songs, did the super fun stick hit during the tabla vocalist part.
Super well done on your part in every aspect.
I’m excited to check out the other drummers you mentioned but I AM surprised that Larnell Lewis isn’t in there
Great stuff, Yogev. Been loving your videos, keep it up!
Great video and welcome back!
I almost shed a tear of joy when Baard Kolstad's name appeared as one of your favourite drummer.
Thanks for the recommendations and taking the time to reply to all those great questions :)
Man he's simply out of this world !
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Hear your soul
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Perrin Moss and Richard Spaven ... Tastyyyyyyyy!!
Thanks for posting that :)
You should try "Into Decay" from Meshuggah. The last riff, to me, features this polyrhythm where the last piece of the phrase "foreshadows" (ie, is the same as) the beginning piece of the next phrase... it's insane
thank you !!! very inspiring channel
GARLIC CLAN
There's been a Koloss poster next to my bed for a couple years, and now when I see it, I just think "SOON..."
thumbs up my man ,very useful, it's not only the contents it is the person behind them that really counts
Glad you think so!
I'm not a drummer, but Yogev really inspires me.
Thank you, bro!
THanks man !
I was so happy when you said Baard Kolstad
what up Yogev, love your stuff man! Have you ever listened to CB Murdoc's record Here Be Dragons? I think the song "Everything is going to be OK" might pique your interest. 👋
Will check!
You know the feeling when a drummer does something rather small yet unexpected and it sounds amazing? Those china hits you do in The Court Jester with Tigran Hamasyan give me goosebumbs every time.
Ohhh thanks man !!
Yogev, I am so happy you gave a shoutout to Darren King! I’m a Meshuggah fan, but Mutemath’s self-titled is absolutely my favorite album of all time. More people need to know about them and their music!!!
Bro he's soooooo amaziinnnngggggg that album in general is in my top 10 for sure.
Hey man! Will you ever do a time consuming on a venetian snares song? I loved your drum cover of Szerencsetlen and was wondering if you could analyze a venetian snares song. Masodik Galamb might be an option :)
Man I love him hahahah that song is actually all in 7!
so great men, as ever. I insist that you should give him some time to listen to the french band Poil. They handle some very crazy polyrhythms.
Hell yes. I saw PinioL and Ni at 2 consecutive years of Complexity Fest in Haarlem (Netherlands), and I was having a great time trying to work out what the hell was going on! I missed PoiL the first year I went.
12 rules for life! Sit up straight with your shoulders back while you hammer out those polyrhythms. Great vid
Amen to that!
Love the channel Yogev! I was wondering if you could help clarify something about Meshuggah. You've described their music as polyrhythmic, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say it's actually polymetric? If I understand correctly, a polymeter occurs when two time signatures are played at the same time and they eventually line up after a certain number of bars. Judging from the breakdowns you do of the meshuggah songs it seems that's what happens in most of them. It would be great if you did a video explaining the difference between the two concepts. Cheers man!
It's semantics, a lot of people use the terms interchangeably, but you are correct.
You're both right yeah.
I actually don't "agree" with these terms, but I get what you say.
When I was learning about polyrhythms in Israel we didn't even have that term "polymeter" so for me, polyrhythms are the umbrella term for all of these.
But yeah, semantically you're correct!
Is there anywhere I can find the live performance with Tigran you showed briefly? It was awesome!
I only have that weird angle, I'll probably upload some of it!
Yogev you HAVE to listen to Ni's 2017 album "Les insurgés de Romilly". It's a french prog/math/rock/metal band and it's the best thing you'll hear this year. Please !!
Will do now !
That album kills man, been a huge fan of them since I discovered that album
Love that band! Highly recommend PinioL as well!
I read the title thinking this was going to be a 15-minute video explaining how it was to work with Tigran. I didn't get what I expected but I wasn't disappointed either. :D
Same, still a cool video all round
Like miss-leading ? I'll change it if it is
@@YogevGabay
I'd change it to something more explicit like "What was it like working with Tigran and other answers to your questions", but that might be overdoing it.
Also, once you have several of these, I'd consider doing a live stream where you answer questions in real time. If you have the time, that is.
@@juffinhally5943 Better now?
@@YogevGabay , well, I like it better now, thanks. Can't really say about others, but I hope it's a bit clearer for them as well.
מלא זמן לא שמענו ממך!
מייק פורטנוי לא ברשימה? 😉
Matt Johnson is the drummer in the album Grace by Jeff Buckley! He's awesome!
He's a genius I love him !
Are you going to demystify more of Virgil donati either his solo independence or his songs with planet X or his own . Ty
Maybe yeah! Any specific song?
Hi Yogev,
Drummer, slav, and Time Consuming enthusiast here: If you'd like to check out an Animals As Leaders song that has polyrhythms embedded in the song, check out the first 30 seconds, as well as the final portion, of the song "Cognitive Contortions"; the track starts out on a normal feel, but then some weird dotted-eighth-note bullshit happens and it switches the time feel up completely. Might be fun to analyze what the guitar riff is doing in contrast to the hi-hat both at the beginning and the end.
yo thanks! will check it out
@@YogevGabay thanks! I missed the name of the song too - it's cognitive contortions
Suzanne sundfore is incredible
HELL YEAH
Hi Yogev! I've had a burning question about a song for a long time, and since you were one of the performers you're my last hope to solve it, so pleeeease, help me!
It's about the performance of 'Drip' by Tigran Hamasyan that you made with the Berklee ensemble; my question is: what's the measure on the first bar of the melody? (when Tigran begins to sing, that motif...) I've seen many transcriptions but no one feels quite right with what I hear; what I hear is a septuplet of 8th notes with an 8th note silence between the first note, the B, and the third note, the D, ending in the C# before the 3rd beat... How wrong am I? What's the secret? It's making me crazy! If you may please solve this conundrum I would be endlesly thankful man... also, big fan of your chanel, already subscribed 😉 Keep on with the groove! 🤘🏻😁
Yo! of course I can answer.
Whats the time stamp in the video?
Starts at 00:39 , it's the first bar of the motif that repeats many times throughout the song... and thank you so much for answering! Absolutely thrilled to know the right way to play it! 😁
@@CarlosVoces so!
This may disappoint you, or maybe not.
But it's in 4.
It's some figure between triplets and 16th notes, but I it's not calculated. It's a simple rhythmic figure that tigran takes and adds LOADS of attitude and "flavor" to by playing it in a very laid back way.
I'm not sure if the original "version" is in triplets or not, but it doesn't matter. It's not a rigid rhythmic grid, it's way way looser.
And when done correctly it can sound so convincing that you may get confused and apply some other subdivision to it.
Long story short, 4/4 hahhaa
To the last question: you surely love Panzerballtett, don't you?
I have to say, they're not my favorites! I haven't heard too much of their things, but what I did didn't totally blow me away
Came here just to say I really like your picture and pose in the thumbnail 😋
Well if you like that, check out the original of FB it's epic hahahahaha:
facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10217447037750094&set=a.1581989271870
What's an example of a drum exercise or mindset that helped break you out of a technique plateau?
When you find it, do tell me. I'm in one of those as we speak.
WAS THAT CAR BOMB COMING SOON? OMG PLEASE
wait wait what...i was supposed to comment only once but the great LOBSTER DADDY JORDAN FUCKING PETERSON!!!!!!
Where are my Lobster Fam at?
Hey I wanna join Berklee....I’m from India...Also I’m financially compromised so what are the qualifications for scholarships if theres any.
i want to see that tigran hamasyan live conovert with you!! please somebody give me a link, please!!!
From that double drums show?
@@YogevGabay I found some of that songs!! Thanks a lot for replying
תעשה כיתת אומן בתיכון האקדמיה למוזיקה. אנחנו נמות על זה!
הופה! איפה זה? עם מי מדברים?
@@YogevGabay וואו! מעולה שענית! יכול לתת לך את המספר של האחראי המוזיקלי אבל לא אוכל בתגובות
@@YogevGabay שלחתי הודעה באינסטה
Hey I love tabla also and believe a lot of people dont know what is it and the cool stuff indians make. Why not hit 2 birds and do a video ? 😁
hahaha I did 2 videos about Indian concepts, there will be more coming.