A fun fact about Flutter Mane: It is designed by Hitoshi Ariga, who has designed a bunch of Pokemon since Gen 6. Examples include the Aegislash Line, the Corviknight Line, the Vikavolt line, and much more. It's a interesting coincidence seeing as Misdreavus is his favorite Pokemon.
@gabrielchee8470 Tomohiro Kitakaze was the one who designed Charcadet and its evolutions. He also designed Venipede and its evolutions, and Mega Mewtwo Y.
@@mathewricafrente5984 Reasonably, someone went "hey, we're making some past paradox forms of unevolved pokemon who evolve via stones to show they didn't exist in the past!" and he was like "hey can I do paradox mismagius I love that little guy" to which the boss was "sure, but I want 7 designs on my desk in an hour" because pokemon is made in japan
Yeah, i still believe the theory more that the paradox mons aren't from the past or future but that terapagos just made the wishes/imagiantion of the professor a reality
@@nikraa77 Spoiler! But in the dlc it turns out that they are from alternate timelines. So not actually past and future forms but also not imaginary. Though the imagination theory is still cool.
Magnets are not a human invention in our world either Of course magnets that look like this are human made, but magnetic rocks can be found in some sand deposits naturally, which is probably the inspiration for paradox magnemite
In defense of Roaring Moon, despite having a lower base stat total than Salamence, it actually has a higher base stat in everything but defense and special attack
So THAT's why Iron Hands' hands are defibrillators! Hariyama's signature move wasn't actual smelling salts but some sort of emergency/healing maneuver, and Iron Hands took that even further. Another fun fact, Iron Moth's legs are missiles. Oh, and my favourite Paradox is the box legends, with Miraidon slightly above Koraidon.
I am NOT winning against iron thorns, 134 base attack, 100 base HP and 110 base defense, so it ain't dying quickly, it can set me on fire or give me hypothermia (fire fang and ice fang), or electrocute me (wild charge or something), cause a FREAKING EARTHQUAKE, or shove a rock down my throat. Edit: I seem a bit overdramatic here so to clear things up I'm not that strong
I like to imagine the robot Hydreigon fell in love with is one of those green box bots you see at the pokecenter! I just think it’s really funny to imagine! Like you walk by and see a giant Hydreigon on a date with what’s basically just a box 💀 But good for them tho! ^^
Fun fact: the thing he said about hydreigon is genuinely NOT true. It is posed as a “ridiculous theory” in game, meaning that is not actually where it came from
@@tenebroise6633 Same think with the Iron Hands entry. Given the vast numbers they appear in, it's exceedingly unlikely that that many people were made into cyborgs.
Heres a more morbid fact: If you look at great tusks' eponymous tusks, you'll notice that they're starting to curve towards his head. There are several species in real life that died out because their horns stabbed themselves in the head. His successor, Donphan appears to be a descendant of great tusks whose tusks grew outward and were thin enough to roll into a ball
Fun Fact About raging Bolt: 5.2 Meters is like 17 feet tall. Dude's still giraffe sized. Not tall as some might think (Tall necks in Horizon Zero Dawn, which people noticed it looked like when it first showed up, is 61 feet tall or 18 meters), but still TALL by human standards.
Fun fact: Raging Bolt is a reference to brontosaurus. The name means "Thunder Lizard," and Raging Bolt's head being above clouds looks like how paleontologists thought sauropods lived in the water and stuck there heads out for air. The reveal order of the Paradox Beasts is a reference to the order of the Mesozoic Era. Walking Wake is a Theropod, which have existed since the Triassic Period, Raging Bolt is a Sauropod which existed in the Jurassic period, and Gouging Fire is a Ceratopsians, which existed primarily in the Cretaceous period.
This might be a hot take, but I dislike Walking Wake... A lot. It loses the majesty of Suicune. It just feels less... mystical. I also am not the biggest fan of Raging Bolt, but I don't hate it. Gouging Fire though... I love it. It retains the feel of the original Entei, and makes it even cooler.
Hahah, we're quite the opposites on WW then. Suicune was actually my least favorite out of the Legendary Beasts, but it was Walking Wake that made me fall in love with Suicune in a way (albeit in some other way or form). Really loved its design, and might just be my favorite Paradox 'mon, apart from Koraidoggo.
The way you described Suicune losing its majesty comes across as you thinking of it as an unintended design flaw when in actuality it's an intended design choice. You don't have to like it, but that's the entire point of Walking Wake and the many other Scarlet paradox Pokemon
2:56 I loved hearing the music from the old Bakugan game. I thought I was the only one who remembered it! I also appreciated you talking about Sideways from Transformers Armada
Yeah, I didn't think about Sideways or Arcee being similar with Miraidon's design. I've been more focused on comparing the legendary bikes to Ramdol from Bakugan.
I just noticed that scarlet is primal and violet is future cuz the professor outfits and koriadon being a dinosaur while miridon being some robot thingy gives it away and the paradox Pokémon are either futuristic robot forms or primal like forms
I did miss hmaz long form content hope you keep this format. As for best paradox form ( in my opinion cough cough ) would probably be iron valiant. While i don't hate furture paradoxs ( i actually think there similar in quality which is quite controversial) the whole robots only thing was a bit repetitive. But iron valiant be a combination of both split evolutions that uses their secondary types is the best concept out of any paradox's. Plus that mixed attack stat on fighting/fairy go crazy . Best concept, best types, fun stats, in my opinion best design and one of my new favourite Pokémon. It wins my a massive margin ( but 'tis only my opinion at the end of the day)
Well, given how many of Magnezone Pokedex entries reference the idea of the line being for space, and given Pokémon like Clefairy and Staryu exist, it's not an impossibly for Sandy Shocks to be an ancient alien of sort
But iron jugulis blasted a building to dust and miraidon killed turo with koraidon killing sada so the fact about iron crown being the only one with a streak is incorrect
I mean, Magnets used to be under the ground, but not in the shape of classic magnets, so yea, sandy shocks could probably have shaped them into this form
Spoiler for the indigo disk DLC The paradox pokemon are said by the original professor Sada to come from different timelines. Sandy shocks probably never existed in our timeline
@@Nmoment-uv6jc aah right right I remember Spoilers: I saw that too, they are not directly from past and future They are from different timelines I forgot about that, but yea it makes sense
Magnetic rocks were discovered in ancient times, and the first navigational compass (that used a magnet) was invented sometime in the 11th century. I'm pretty sure that Pokemon Legends Arceus takes place in either the late Edo or early Meiji period, so people should have been using magnets as tools by then.
fun fact if you wonder why sandy shock (a magnet pokemon) would be a past paradox pokemon is because magnets are technically not man made, there are extremely rare rocks called Lodestone that are naturally magnetic which is what Sandy Shock is inspired by
3:47 Hey I think u made an error in ur script, you were supposed to say "Nope, this isn't a fact, it's an opinion. It's actually the opposite of the truth." (joke)
I would say that scream tail got its name from sounding like his screams are coming from his tale, i found this glitch in s/v that when you battle one it sounds like the voice is coming from his back. i think the first people discovering one tought the same thing so they named it scream tail
We already know that lots of man made things that inspired Pokemon designs did so in reverse in the Pokemon world. Magnemite lead to the discovery of magnetism and magnetic minerals. Vanillite's line inspired the look of ice cream cones. Klingklang lead to the invention of the gear. Klefki lead to the invention of the keychain. There are probably more that I can't think of right now, but yeah. In the Pokemon lore, man was inspired by their version of nature.
Well mangamite only was found in the time distortion which a place where time itself was broken which is why so can find pokemon from the future like the porgon line and the magnetmite came to the past
when fossils are revived some DNA changed over the years, so they dont look exactly how they might have back in time this makes me belive that the original Kabutops is a Paradox Scyther
Honestly, I highly doubt the backstories you find in the tabloids/dex are factual to how the Pokémon actually came into existence. For example, scream tail is referred to as being from a billion years ago, but life at that point was just microscopic specks
Gouging Fire is fine but you will never convince me that Raging Bolt is anything but an unholy abomination born from a drunken weekend between Raikou and Alolan Exeggutor. I'm sort of coming around on Walking Wake, though. I still don't exactly love it but it's not as awful as I initially thought. For some reason when I first saw the design, it sort of got fused with Zygarde's 50% form in my brain so for a few weeks, I really thought Walking Wake just didn't have any legs and I absolutely despised it.
Ok but iron throne is still iron thorns. Even if it’s only as tall as a 7th grader he’s still got lots of weapons. Cougars are still the same size as iron thorns could you beat one in a fight? Maybe with fatal injuries but iron thorns again, has weapons. Case closed 3:02
Let me know what you guys think of this new long video format! Which is your favorite Paradox Pokemon?
I like it
Also slither wing is peak
Walking Wake is my Favorite, its big raptor suicune-
Nononononono nananananananana
Definitely iron serpent
Long form content is better. My favourite is Great Tusk
A fun fact about Flutter Mane: It is designed by Hitoshi Ariga, who has designed a bunch of Pokemon since Gen 6. Examples include the Aegislash Line, the Corviknight Line, the Vikavolt line, and much more.
It's a interesting coincidence seeing as Misdreavus is his favorite Pokemon.
Bro loves Power creep. But yeah they’re all great Pokémon designs.
Amusing that a guy who has Misdreavus as his favorite Pokémon gets to design a new version of it that looked like came from prehistoric times.
I was also one of the few who thought:
He worked on mega man
Armarouge and ceruledge look like robot masters
He must have made them right?
@gabrielchee8470 Tomohiro Kitakaze was the one who designed Charcadet and its evolutions. He also designed Venipede and its evolutions, and Mega Mewtwo Y.
@@mathewricafrente5984 Reasonably, someone went "hey, we're making some past paradox forms of unevolved pokemon who evolve via stones to show they didn't exist in the past!" and he was like "hey can I do paradox mismagius I love that little guy" to which the boss was "sure, but I want 7 designs on my desk in an hour" because pokemon is made in japan
“Brother, what is it like to land your rock moves?”
“BUNANANANAANININININI”
Real
A beat worth 50k.
4:27 might be peak
Magnemite only appears in PLA in time distorsions. The paradoxes are still not past or future forms, just paradoxes
Yeah, i still believe the theory more that the paradox mons aren't from the past or future but that terapagos just made the wishes/imagiantion of the professor a reality
Magnezone can be found outside of distortions
@@nikraa77 Spoiler! But in the dlc it turns out that they are from alternate timelines. So not actually past and future forms but also not imaginary. Though the imagination theory is still cool.
@@aperturemax3651 yeah, it works for me
@@AS-ri1mb i like to think that some magnemites arrived with the time distorsions and stayed, but it's just my theory
Technically ogerpons ivy cudgel is a 100% accurate physical rock move, so long as it holds the cornerstone mask
So true
Multi-attack's similar.
Magnets are not a human invention in our world either
Of course magnets that look like this are human made, but magnetic rocks can be found in some sand deposits naturally, which is probably the inspiration for paradox magnemite
Yes, and the past way for collecting iron to use on forging, collecting iron sand with magnets...
was about to say this.
This was very implied
In defense of Roaring Moon, despite having a lower base stat total than Salamence, it actually has a higher base stat in everything but defense and special attack
The Erica build. One I've ended up with, anyway.
took a massive hit on its sp atk
(special salamence was viable, but special roaring moon is no better than special attacking azumarill)
Yeah, but special or physical salamence doesn’t get close to roaring moon in terms of sweeping and wallbreaking power
@@ast.asutorato be fair, why would anyone use a special attacking roaring moon? its physical attack move pool is so much better imo 🤓
Even earlier than the age of Hisui - Magnemite were seen in the flashback of Kalos's great war, 3000 years ago.
So THAT's why Iron Hands' hands are defibrillators! Hariyama's signature move wasn't actual smelling salts but some sort of emergency/healing maneuver, and Iron Hands took that even further.
Another fun fact, Iron Moth's legs are missiles.
Oh, and my favourite Paradox is the box legends, with Miraidon slightly above Koraidon.
4:17 ivy cudgel cornerstone mask: “am I a joke to you?”
I am NOT winning against iron thorns, 134 base attack, 100 base HP and 110 base defense, so it ain't dying quickly, it can set me on fire or give me hypothermia (fire fang and ice fang), or electrocute me (wild charge or something), cause a FREAKING EARTHQUAKE, or shove a rock down my throat.
Edit: I seem a bit overdramatic here so to clear things up I'm not that strong
If he just sit on you it will be enough ( 303 kg weight)
Yeah but those tiny ah arms ain't big enough to hold a glock are they?
@@GabrielMarshall-z1x I don't have a Glock though
I like to imagine the robot Hydreigon fell in love with is one of those green box bots you see at the pokecenter! I just think it’s really funny to imagine!
Like you walk by and see a giant Hydreigon on a date with what’s basically just a box 💀
But good for them tho! ^^
Fun fact: the thing he said about hydreigon is genuinely NOT true. It is posed as a “ridiculous theory” in game, meaning that is not actually where it came from
@@tenebroise6633 Same think with the Iron Hands entry. Given the vast numbers they appear in, it's exceedingly unlikely that that many people were made into cyborgs.
Correction
Iron Jugulis is actually a robot bonking a Hydregion
It came out of a Hydregion not a robot
Iron Treads looks like it could be a Sonic Frontiers boss. It has the correct color scheme.
Anyone else thought All of the Future Paradox Pokémon were all Steel Type?
Heres a more morbid fact: If you look at great tusks' eponymous tusks, you'll notice that they're starting to curve towards his head. There are several species in real life that died out because their horns stabbed themselves in the head.
His successor, Donphan appears to be a descendant of great tusks whose tusks grew outward and were thin enough to roll into a ball
Fun Fact About raging Bolt: 5.2 Meters is like 17 feet tall.
Dude's still giraffe sized.
Not tall as some might think (Tall necks in Horizon Zero Dawn, which people noticed it looked like when it first showed up, is 61 feet tall or 18 meters), but still TALL by human standards.
I'm honestly surprised you added Bakugan Battle Brawlers music in the video, but very impressed and pleased! That OST is so underrated.
Fun fact:
Raging Bolt is a reference to brontosaurus. The name means "Thunder Lizard," and Raging Bolt's head being above clouds looks like how paleontologists thought sauropods lived in the water and stuck there heads out for air.
The reveal order of the Paradox Beasts is a reference to the order of the Mesozoic Era. Walking Wake is a Theropod, which have existed since the Triassic Period, Raging Bolt is a Sauropod which existed in the Jurassic period, and Gouging Fire is a Ceratopsians, which existed primarily in the Cretaceous period.
3:06 As a pessimist who is a little bit (5 inches) taller than Iron Thorns I see this as an absolute win
This might be a hot take, but I dislike Walking Wake... A lot. It loses the majesty of Suicune. It just feels less... mystical.
I also am not the biggest fan of Raging Bolt, but I don't hate it.
Gouging Fire though... I love it. It retains the feel of the original Entei, and makes it even cooler.
Also, my favourite paradox is Koraidon. He's just a goofy little dragon puppy and I love him.
Hahah, we're quite the opposites on WW then. Suicune was actually my least favorite out of the Legendary Beasts, but it was Walking Wake that made me fall in love with Suicune in a way (albeit in some other way or form). Really loved its design, and might just be my favorite Paradox 'mon, apart from Koraidoggo.
@@AquaQuokka In my opinion suicune is a bit overrated but walking wake makes suicune look amazing.
I respect your opinion though.
The way you described Suicune losing its majesty comes across as you thinking of it as an unintended design flaw when in actuality it's an intended design choice. You don't have to like it, but that's the entire point of Walking Wake and the many other Scarlet paradox Pokemon
2:56 I loved hearing the music from the old Bakugan game. I thought I was the only one who remembered it!
I also appreciated you talking about Sideways from Transformers Armada
I noticed that too!!! I still replay the game on the wii every summer. One of the best games ever made imo.
Broooo this hit me with a wave of nostalgia as well. What a tune mannn
the sideways reference actually makes since
Yeah, I didn't think about Sideways or Arcee being similar with Miraidon's design. I've been more focused on comparing the legendary bikes to Ramdol from Bakugan.
Since when?
I just noticed that scarlet is primal and violet is future cuz the professor outfits and koriadon being a dinosaur while miridon being some robot thingy gives it away and the paradox Pokémon are either futuristic robot forms or primal like forms
3:46 Ok good, I thought I was just biased because Suicune is my favorite Pokémon
4:21 ogerpawn be like: and I took that personally
I actually like the robot swords of justice
I did miss hmaz long form content hope you keep this format.
As for best paradox form ( in my opinion cough cough ) would probably be iron valiant.
While i don't hate furture paradoxs ( i actually think there similar in quality which is quite controversial) the whole robots only thing was a bit repetitive.
But iron valiant be a combination of both split evolutions that uses their secondary types is the best concept out of any paradox's. Plus that mixed attack stat on fighting/fairy go crazy .
Best concept, best types, fun stats, in my opinion best design and one of my new favourite Pokémon.
It wins my a massive margin ( but 'tis only my opinion at the end of the day)
holy fuck we get it you didn't need to tell us 3 times that it's just your opinion
I think the idea of the future and past Donphan's are that one of them focuses more on the elephant aspect and the other in the tire aspect
Cool robot beatbox 4:25
😂
2:50 There are natural magnets in our world as well. Every magnet was not a man made invention.
Well, given how many of Magnezone Pokedex entries reference the idea of the line being for space, and given Pokémon like Clefairy and Staryu exist, it's not an impossibly for Sandy Shocks to be an ancient alien of sort
But iron jugulis blasted a building to dust and miraidon killed turo with koraidon killing sada so the fact about iron crown being the only one with a streak is incorrect
1:20 if u press b then u can toggle flying or not 😅😊
I mean, Magnets used to be under the ground, but not in the shape of classic magnets, so yea, sandy shocks could probably have shaped them into this form
Spoiler for the indigo disk DLC
The paradox pokemon are said by the original professor Sada to come from different timelines. Sandy shocks probably never existed in our timeline
@@Nmoment-uv6jc aah right right
I remember
Spoilers:
I saw that too, they are not directly from past and future
They are from different timelines
I forgot about that, but yea it makes sense
I may be taller than iron thorns, but I would still get absolutely *flattened*
Love the vids 🤞👍
4:40 Dude. Anything next to that tree gonna look short. 5m is pretty tall for its brothers' proportion I suppose.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the use of music from the Bakugan Battle Brawlers video game in this video.
5:20 and yet, it's not Rock-type.
Magnetic rocks were discovered in ancient times, and the first navigational compass (that used a magnet) was invented sometime in the 11th century. I'm pretty sure that Pokemon Legends Arceus takes place in either the late Edo or early Meiji period, so people should have been using magnets as tools by then.
fun fact if you wonder why sandy shock (a magnet pokemon) would be a past paradox pokemon is because magnets are technically not man made, there are extremely rare rocks called Lodestone that are naturally magnetic which is what Sandy Shock is inspired by
4:23 why cant i find love? **robotic beatboxing commences**
love the water Bakugan stage song choice
Slither Wing should have been Bug/Dragon lol
Plus Iron Thorns can be my personal leaning post 💀🤣
4:27 what’s that song
Tetris beatbox remix lol
3:47 Hey I think u made an error in ur script, you were supposed to say "Nope, this isn't a fact, it's an opinion. It's actually the opposite of the truth." (joke)
jokes aside, ”best design” is clearly a blatant sign that it is indeed not a fact, but an opinion
-this unbiased post was made by unbiased minds
2:56 Nooo wayyy that's the Bakugan DS Aquos theme. What a banggeerrrrrr
Saying Mr hands caught me so off guard good one
I would say that scream tail got its name from sounding like his screams are coming from his tale, i found this glitch in s/v that when you battle one it sounds like the voice is coming from his back. i think the first people discovering one tought the same thing so they named it scream tail
4:46
RYOIKI TENKAI: FUKUMAMI ZUSHI
😈🙏🏻
⛩️
💀💀💀
When you brought up Burning Bulwark I was praying for the Inazuma Orion reference
"fire wall" actually got a good name, somehow
Unrelated comment but is that the aquos battlearena theme from Bakugan at 2:55?
We already know that lots of man made things that inspired Pokemon designs did so in reverse in the Pokemon world.
Magnemite lead to the discovery of magnetism and magnetic minerals.
Vanillite's line inspired the look of ice cream cones.
Klingklang lead to the invention of the gear.
Klefki lead to the invention of the keychain.
There are probably more that I can't think of right now, but yeah. In the Pokemon lore, man was inspired by their version of nature.
FINALLY someone got the Mega Mewtwo Y reference! Also, look at Scream Tail's shiny!
Ok here's a question for everyone what's your favourite paradox pokemon
Walking wake. It's a fact
Roaring moon and koraidon
@@ediakin4993 those two are pretty cool
@@jobanpreet3795 it does look cool
Iron Jugulis and Thorns are cute
2:18 who is this special serpent, MIRAIDON FOR LIFEEE
And the funny thing is, collision course isnt even super effective towards dragon types
it is against rock which all the fossil pokemon are
Well mangamite only was found in the time distortion which a place where time itself was broken which is why so can find pokemon from the future like the porgon line and the magnetmite came to the past
Ogerpon cornerstone and his ivy cudgel when mighty cleave has 5 less base power but is more popular
when fossils are revived some DNA changed over the years, so they dont look exactly how they might have back in time
this makes me belive that the original Kabutops is a Paradox Scyther
ngl when i saw the thumbnail i imagined raging bolt being like 5'7" and getting rejected by someone who only dates 6' guys lmao
4:18 ivy cudgel rock
Multi attack, tera blast. That for psysical rock type moves
Random Bakugan Wii ost is odd but appreciated!
"Jumbo sized Dumbo" - Hmaz
4:24 "brother, where did my 50k go?"
4:27 what’s the original meme?
I think he actually thinks we “invented” magnets.
I like to think Iron Bundle references Club Penguin
Let me like Club Penguin, who doesn’t?
I thought koraidon’s signature was a reference to ice age 😭
I just realized what the background music was oh the memories of bakugan
So a 10 year old is now the master of this mortally wounded athlete… damn
Tyrantitars fall off needs to be studied. How'd we go from a monster capable of levelling mountains, to a 5 foot smol boy
So gouging fire has toxapexs protect move but worse?
When the green arrow appeared on my screen the veiw counter went up
scream tail doesnt permanently fly, you can find them on the ground, and in battle it doesnt fly.
2:18 iron moth has the fire type so does volcarona and slither wing has the bug type so does volcarona
Have any of you realized this but every paradox in violet is made out of steel and every paradox in scarlet is a beast except sandy shocks
M8 are you a bakugan Fan?
I CAN HEAR THE AQUOS ARENA THEME IN THE BACKGROUND OF YOUR VIDEO!
Just push over Iron Thorns, what's it gonna do, roll towards you? It's a cone shape, it's just gonna roll in a circle
In legends arceus you could also find a washing machine for rotom too
You do know that both paradox forms of volcarona Do have at least one typing referencing the pokémon they are based on right
yo this guy is perfectly roasting the area zero dlc
Is this dlc pokemon only?
I’m probably late to tell you, but no
I thought that Iron Hands was a reference to Victor Stone/Cyborg
Well actually rock type Ivy cudgel also has over 50 power and 100 accuracy
I didn't count type changing moves otherwise Multi Attack, Judgement, Tera Blast, Ivy Cudgel etc would all count.
Ogerpon also killed the loyal 3 once.@@Hmaz
4:16 that is illegal, why must rock moves always miss?
Honestly, I highly doubt the backstories you find in the tabloids/dex are factual to how the Pokémon actually came into existence. For example, scream tail is referred to as being from a billion years ago, but life at that point was just microscopic specks
Gouging Fire is fine but you will never convince me that Raging Bolt is anything but an unholy abomination born from a drunken weekend between Raikou and Alolan Exeggutor.
I'm sort of coming around on Walking Wake, though. I still don't exactly love it but it's not as awful as I initially thought. For some reason when I first saw the design, it sort of got fused with Zygarde's 50% form in my brain so for a few weeks, I really thought Walking Wake just didn't have any legs and I absolutely despised it.
I don’t think I can defeat Iron Thorns in a fight, but I can beat it in height
Hasn't it been confirmed that the paradoxes weren't actually from a different time, but from a different dimension just like the Ultra Beasts
Yes , pretty much , paradoxes are from a future or past of a different dimension/timeline .
What about cornerstone ivy cudgel?
The fact on 2:00 is easily the best one.
Wdym
Ok but iron throne is still iron thorns. Even if it’s only as tall as a 7th grader he’s still got lots of weapons. Cougars are still the same size as iron thorns could you beat one in a fight? Maybe with fatal injuries but iron thorns again, has weapons. Case closed 3:02
Hydreigon must've been dropping game on a ps2 for its offspring to be looking that low-poly
1:35 mr hands….?
Iron thorns is also a call back to gen 5
My favorite paradox is all of them because I can't choose anything 🎉
I liked the video but imma be honest, I don't think you could beat Iron Thorns in a fight, unless it can't get up if you trip it.
wHaT aBouT IvY CuDgEl ThOugH!
Just kidding though love your content