I'm interested in what you think about Caeleb Dressel's kick that comes at the end of his arm pull during the beginning of the breathing phase of the stroke. If you watch underwater footage of him swimming fly he bends his knees to almost a 90 degree angle on that kick. You can see this in a lot of other high level swimmers as well.
Technique guidelines work well to a point. Each person's body is different. At the end of the day that aim is to be as fast as possible. If a large fly kick works, then do that
I think that once you have mastered this technique and start to understand the water flow, you can begin to work on your strength on your kicks and gradually increase the angle of the kick itself. But for a beginner it will force them to drown and not stay on the surface enough because timing and strength just isn't there
I'm interested in what u think about Micheal Phelps breathing pattern? He breaths every stroke. This is because otherwise ur pelvis sinks to low and u have to use more strength to get the pelvis higher at the next stroke. This is also the most common seen at the Olympics.
He breaths every stroke because men are strong enough. woman however either do 2 trokes without breath or 1. Olympic woman swimmers are more likely to do 1 stroke then breath the next stroke however if you are a competitive swimmer who hasnt past the age of 16 for men and probably 18 for woman you will do 2 strokes down without a breath I do 2 down because I am a 10 year old competitive swimmer and I have a gala coming up and I am doing 50 fly and my coach tells me to do 2 down. Also wish me luck
@@naddog1996 First of all GOOD LUCK ma little boy. Secondly, did u read my comment??? Phelps himself and his coach r saying it is easier to breath every stroke instead of every second stroke cuz ur pelvis sinks too low. If u want to know the reasons watch Chaosmos Space Micheal Phelps Butterfly training 2002 on UA-cam or click the link in the second answer (didn't put it in here cuz UA-cam has problems with links in comments and u should be able to read this message). Edit: 4 the video u can watch the whole video or u start at 4:45 to get the coache's arguments.
@@uchihasasuke6275 also he breaths every stroke because he needs to. His body needs the oxygen to operate at that peak performance. That is also why breathing every stoke in butterfly is very common at the elite level swimmers. Also why elite sprinters breath only to one side (ie breath every other stroke). There are also many other reasons to breath a certain way, looking at a competitor, timing, etc or just your personal preference.
It honestly just depends on the person sometimes. A lot of people breath every stroke because they need oxygen and they’ve mastered the ability to breathe every stroke. For me I breathe every 2 because my stroke feels weird when I breathe every stroke and I feel like I go slower when I breathe every stroke.
My butterfly stroke is horrible and I struggle to swim 25m, but I do not make any of those mistakes. I think my problem is that my ondulation is awful because I did not figure out how to engange my chest in the ondulation. If I swim backwards (face up), I think my ondulation is ok, but if I swim with my face down, I do not feel the ondulation in my chest, only in my hips and below
Practice undulation with your arms on your sides, pushing your chin forward to breathe every four kicks. Keep your neck steady, focus on lifting and lowering your pelvis and engaging your chest. progress from there to half-pulls (with underwater recovery), on breaths, and then on every 2 kicks, Full pull with overwater recovery, on every breath and try Fly arms with flutter kick, forcing you to engage your chest Best of luck!
It will be easier for you to brush your chin against the water when you breath because it takes up less energy than bringing your chest and your head out
I used to bend my arms but now I worked on it and keeping my but up when I’m doing dolphin kick lol now this season in long corse if corrected by butterflie!
“Breathe every two strokes” bold of them to think I can do this for more than two strokes haha! But seriously these are useful tips. I can do like 5 whole strokes before I have to rest.
I can't seem to increase my speed while doing this stroke....like i can move quite fast with the other strokes...but while doing this one i hardly seem to move forward...
I’ve been swimming for 11 years (out of 17) I do none of those but I can barely swim 100m of butterfly. I can roast most people at 50m but I die after the third length
My practice lane has seven people in it! That on top of circle swimming means no room for fly. Our lanes are also quite skinny (small pool) so we rarely get to get a full wingspan. Not fun.
When I do fly I feel like I look really professional and cool but when I record myself doing it I look like a dying fish on the shore😩😩😩how do yall do it so smoothly like is there a auto tune for swimming or smth😭😭😭😞
I think the s formation or whatever is more for like bringing your head out of the water smoother I don't know that's how I was taught my 100-m butterfly was under a minute I mean that's not good but it's nowhere near bad and that was in high school with not trying and practice smoking pot never swam off season it never really tried
@@FaresKsebati incorrect, a figure 8 motion is most efficient. I used to swim 55.2 for 100m fly as a 14-15yr old and that’s how I was taught through multiple swim clubs
I'm trying to break the habit of breathing every stroke. It's going pretty well as of yet. I had a meet the other day and lost my goggles immediately following my dive and took in a good bit of water. Couldn't breathe, and was about to abort the race. I then hit the wall and my body went into automatic open-turn mode and I kept going. Managed to drop six seconds off my old time for a solid 42 second 50yrd. It's my second year of swim and that completely blindsided me. And felt awesome.
No wonder butterfly is easy for me, I've been doing it all wrong! 🤣
Ahahahah 🤣 Best comment!
@@ElisebEvansouch 😮
Same
Do training Butterfly@DAIJAKAKE
ong shit bro
How to learn butterfly:
1. Do all these mistakes
2. Fix them later if you feel like it
That's kind of my philosophy on this, get it close and comfortable and then fine tune it.
True @@Adeus555
This will transform my "beached whale having a seizure" stroke into an actual butterfly stroke.
I'm interested in what you think about Caeleb Dressel's kick that comes at the end of his arm pull during the beginning of the breathing phase of the stroke. If you watch underwater footage of him swimming fly he bends his knees to almost a 90 degree angle on that kick. You can see this in a lot of other high level swimmers as well.
Technique guidelines work well to a point. Each person's body is different. At the end of the day that aim is to be as fast as possible. If a large fly kick works, then do that
I think that once you have mastered this technique and start to understand the water flow, you can begin to work on your strength on your kicks and gradually increase the angle of the kick itself. But for a beginner it will force them to drown and not stay on the surface enough because timing and strength just isn't there
I rekon a powerful bendy kick for sprint fly, but in a 200, you’d be wanting to create the least drag possible with a straighter leg?
Bend your knees, it’s faster and easier.
I didn’t realize Mario was quite the swimmer
Lol
I'm interested in what u think about Micheal Phelps breathing pattern? He breaths every stroke. This is because otherwise ur pelvis sinks to low and u have to use more strength to get the pelvis higher at the next stroke. This is also the most common seen at the Olympics.
He breaths every stroke because men are strong enough. woman however either do 2 trokes without breath or 1. Olympic woman swimmers are more likely to do 1 stroke then breath the next stroke however if you are a competitive swimmer who hasnt past the age of 16 for men and probably 18 for woman you will do 2 strokes down without a breath I do 2 down because I am a 10 year old competitive swimmer and I have a gala coming up and I am doing 50 fly and my coach tells me to do 2 down. Also wish me luck
@@naddog1996 First of all GOOD LUCK ma little boy. Secondly, did u read my comment??? Phelps himself and his coach r saying it is easier to breath every stroke instead of every second stroke cuz ur pelvis sinks too low. If u want to know the reasons watch Chaosmos Space Micheal Phelps Butterfly training 2002 on UA-cam or click the link in the second answer (didn't put it in here cuz UA-cam has problems with links in comments and u should be able to read this message).
Edit: 4 the video u can watch the whole video or u start at 4:45 to get the coache's arguments.
@@naddog1996 here is the you tube link:
ua-cam.com/video/T7gNPwRjgNQ/v-deo.html
@@uchihasasuke6275 also he breaths every stroke because he needs to. His body needs the oxygen to operate at that peak performance. That is also why breathing every stoke in butterfly is very common at the elite level swimmers. Also why elite sprinters breath only to one side (ie breath every other stroke). There are also many other reasons to breath a certain way, looking at a competitor, timing, etc or just your personal preference.
It honestly just depends on the person sometimes. A lot of people breath every stroke because they need oxygen and they’ve mastered the ability to breathe every stroke. For me I breathe every 2 because my stroke feels weird when I breathe every stroke and I feel like I go slower when I breathe every stroke.
Bang on breathing every two strokes , I used to get proper momentum going then adjust on 3 rd 50 every breath. Have a good day
In the 200 fly?
My butterfly stroke is horrible and I struggle to swim 25m, but I do not make any of those mistakes. I think my problem is that my ondulation is awful because I did not figure out how to engange my chest in the ondulation. If I swim backwards (face up), I think my ondulation is ok, but if I swim with my face down, I do not feel the ondulation in my chest, only in my hips and below
Practice undulation with your arms on your sides, pushing your chin forward to breathe every four kicks. Keep your neck steady, focus on lifting and lowering your pelvis and engaging your chest.
progress from there to half-pulls (with underwater recovery), on breaths, and then on every 2 kicks,
Full pull with overwater recovery, on every breath
and try Fly arms with flutter kick, forcing you to engage your chest
Best of luck!
The hardest swim technique ever
yeah but once you get it, it will become as smooth as "butter"
not really lol i find much harder frog style (breaststroke), for me butterfly compared to breaststroke is EASIEST, not hardest at all.
I find doggy style lot harder
There are people who swims with wide pull. It looks beautiful and efficient to me. I don’t think that’s wrong .
prob why ur slow lol
I like the music and I looked at your videos and it was really helping me to do butterfly
I love this shorts ❤
Trust me you wont learn until u do these mistakes
Caeleb Dressel also bends his knees a lot
Love you guys thank you!!
Bravo ! Very interesting .Thanks a lot from France .
I love you all. Very helpful as usual and to the spot🥰🥰🥰🥰
So basically a more linear Breastroke but with Dolphin kicks.
I'm new to swimming and besides the head coming out tip both looked exactly the same to me 😂
It will be easier for you to brush your chin against the water when you breath because it takes up less energy than bringing your chest and your head out
Just barely breath and u dotn have to breathe as much likek Nad Dog said
Thanks for this. I have been doing the front sweep now I will try to unlearn this habit.
I used to bend my arms but now I worked on it and keeping my but up when I’m doing dolphin kick lol now this season in long corse if corrected by butterflie!
LETS KEEP ON DANCIN!!!!!!!
ThanQu
Wrong and correct both seem to be the same😅😅
Well we can say that we can't perfectly master Butterfly as the best Olympians also have some minor mistakes
I saw a video on this and according to this short the guy was swimming entirely wrong lol
“Breathe every two strokes” bold of them to think I can do this for more than two strokes haha!
But seriously these are useful tips. I can do like 5 whole strokes before I have to rest.
Is that Borat in the first mistake?
Exactly what I was thinking
No offence but the third one is how Chad les Clos swims😂😂
I didn’t know Borat swam!!
Not me watching this before my meet
Love the mustache
Umm actually you must breath every single stroke except for the first and the last stroke. That will make you swim butterfly faster
Let me have my casual swim please
It entirely depends on why you are swimming....
Swiming ka boss🎉
I am going for some championship records this weekend at finals mainly butterfly I think this will help a lot thx
Good luck and swim fast!
Just swam the 100 Im and I was winning the whole time ambit lost by like a mil a second on the freestyle
Can i use breaststroke without dolphin kick in butterfly?
I can't seem to increase my speed while doing this stroke....like i can move quite fast with the other strokes...but while doing this one i hardly seem to move forward...
thanks
What is everyone’s 50 fly time?
28.94 at 11 years old
@@Olivia90141 AINT NO WAY
OMG IM 13 AND I DO 33
dang- been doing it wrong
Is it the same as freestyle swimming but both arms are pulling?
ah no i guess!
I am going swimming soon and this will help my butterfly same as the comment below me
I struggle with the 2nd kick , any tips ?
I would add putting hands in the way that fingers point downwards too much and it is less hydrodynamic
keep up the good work
Will do!
If I breathe in every 2 strokes I'll pass out after 10😂
The last mistake is the hardest to control 🤔
Tbh I kinda already was doing everything right but good tips
My problem is I swim too flat. I struggle with the hip rotation.
Summer McIntosh says differently on the elbow bending thing
Wonder we’re he got the wrong example from
Butterfly is easy!😊
I’ve been swimming for 11 years (out of 17) I do none of those but I can barely swim 100m of butterfly. I can roast most people at 50m but I die after the third length
Butterfly is a tough stroke to maintain over time! It takes a lot of practice to build that endurance!
Whats your 50m and 100m Butterfly PR in a 50m Pool?
@@s_koci02 i have never tried 100m butterfly in a 50m pool but my 50m is about 31-31.5
@@CHOPPERFAN34👍🏼 you should try it😊
I try to grow my butterfly capacity this way:
2 lengths butterfly
1 length breaststroke
2 lengths butterfly
1 length breaststroke
…
Why keep ellbows not slightly bent on the recovery phase?
engaging the wrong muscles (too much deltoid not enough scapula)
I tend to bend my elbows because I have very long arms and usually I’m sharing a lane
My practice lane has seven people in it! That on top of circle swimming means no room for fly. Our lanes are also quite skinny (small pool) so we rarely get to get a full wingspan. Not fun.
perfect ❤
I need one posted that helps with the hips. I swim really flat.
I recommend watching the butterfly series over on the MySwimPro channel! ua-cam.com/video/SzsM2r7exng/v-deo.html
Bravo
Is it ok to breathe every stroke?😊
Why should you have a breathing pattern??
Nice
I hv never been this early😮😮and also I love your work and videos
Glad to hear it!
When I do fly I feel like I look really professional and cool but when I record myself doing it I look like a dying fish on the shore😩😩😩how do yall do it so smoothly like is there a auto tune for swimming or smth😭😭😭😞
People haven't see Pablo Morales :)
Why don't men have to shave their armpits? Good tips, thanks a lot ❤
Song name anyone?
I don't know I can't do that with broken spine ?
And putting hands badore head in the water
But hamds dind't come up of water
Сложный стиль плавания. Нужно отдельно прорабатывать ноги и руки. Ну и сила нужна конечно.
😊😊😊
Ur wrong on the hand movements. When ur pulling u should have your hands cupped and u make a s in the water while pulling down.
Actually, your fingers should be spread slightly to increase surface area! Pulling should be in a straight line because it generates the most force
I think the s formation or whatever is more for like bringing your head out of the water smoother I don't know that's how I was taught my 100-m butterfly was under a minute I mean that's not good but it's nowhere near bad and that was in high school with not trying and practice smoking pot never swam off season it never really tried
@@FaresKsebati incorrect, a figure 8 motion is most efficient. I used to swim 55.2 for 100m fly as a 14-15yr old and that’s how I was taught through multiple swim clubs
I'm trying to break the habit of breathing every stroke. It's going pretty well as of yet. I had a meet the other day and lost my goggles immediately following my dive and took in a good bit of water. Couldn't breathe, and was about to abort the race. I then hit the wall and my body went into automatic open-turn mode and I kept going. Managed to drop six seconds off my old time for a solid 42 second 50yrd. It's my second year of swim and that completely blindsided me. And felt awesome.
Keep it up, Audra!
Looks like I make 0 of thesse mistakes 😊
great, stupid music though
hay
Pankratov did great with bent elbows recovery ;)
ua-cam.com/video/DV0sH-6bJkU/v-deo.html