GamingSins: Everything Wrong with Mass Effect 3
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2013
- Every game commits a sin.
Welcome to GamingSins, where we expose and nitpick the hell out of video games.
Well, this ought to be interesting. Mass Effect 3 was one of the biggest games of 2012, and also one of the most controversial, and for good reason. So we decided to count all of the sins included in it.
*And yes, for all you rabid fans out there, we know that a lot of what's included can be explained through the Indoctrination Theory, but since the theory was never confirmed or denied, we're gonna pretend that it doesn't exist.
Obviously inspired by CinemaSins. If you haven't checked them out, please do:
ua-cam.com/users/CinemaSin...
Which game should get exposed next? - Ігри
Back when EA was 1 sin not 500
Now it's 1000. Look at EWW E3 2019 and ME3 Redux.
Regardless of what anyone says, the Mass Effect trilogy is one of the shining masterpieces of the modern video game industry. Everything good and everything bad about the series will live on in the passionate memories of those who experienced it.
I +1'd your comment, not the video. That guy is way too nitpicky and on some cases just plain wrong.
At least until the series' end, which was an absolute f*ck up.
I experienced the whole thing from start to finish.
Mass Effect 1 was a buried gem, something that could grow into what could be the greatest series of games ever created.
Then Mass Effect 2 came out, wasn't as good as 1 but still an okay game except for daddy issue companions.
Then Mass Effect 3 came out. Gameplay improved. Everything else...
I just get depressed everytime I think about it.
I totally agree.
True.
3 more sins to add;
1) At no point does anyone consider the Crucible to be a trap placed by the Reapers.
2) You are not given a choice about whether or not to dedicate time and resources to the war effort instead of building the Crucible.
3) Sheperd doesn't immediately question the legitimacy of the Crucible when the Prothean AI admits that his people didn't come up with the Crucible. Because, you know, the Reapers don't _explicitly_ go after and destroy technology, brainwash people to do their bidding and could've found out about it-oh wait. Yes they do.
+Blackemperess I could see that, but, let's look at it from their perspective. "We're being systematically slaughtered by an alien race of sentient/organic hybrid machines that were sent to take our lives every 50,000 years to ensure organic and synthetic life never obliterates the other and every attempt to take them down or delay them has failed, now our backs against the wall and we only have this one last weapon for our salvation." Liara even admits they only found it through 'process of elimination' and 'desperation." I wouldn't be surprise if they thought about that idea, as well, but, well if you're fighting a war that is impossible to win conventionally and you have the blue prints that contains trace technology of past cycles contributions, would you not use it if it meant saving you, your family, and the rest of galactic civilization? Because, for me, I probably would in the end. If the Crucible activates like they wanted, they win, if not, they die either way. Regardless there was practically no reason not to use this potential super weapon because if it failed, or does what you suggest, than it would be the same result as if the Reapers pulling the trigger.
MrRjwagner
Logic would dictate that something wasn't exactly right with the crucible, desperation be damned. Shepherd especially would call bullshit, because it would be a little too convenient for them to all-of-a-sudden come across something they can make and save their lives. I was screaming red herring as soon as it was introduced.
But my main points is that the game doesn't even let you point out the questionable nature of the crucible or decide not to build it.
Blackemperess Or, or, just hear out... the writers didn't know how to actually stop the Reapers and needed a quick way out to fit this game into a trilogy. It's very possible they couldn't think of any other way to logically defeat the Reapers, so they just thrown in this super weapon that was constructed by the past cycles.
I also noticed that the Construct/child never actually explains who it is that created it and subsequently the Reapers, I mean, obviously someone, something must have. You can't build an A.I. system out of nothing, unless God decided one day at the beginning of Creation that he would create such machines, but other than that, someone had to be the first one to put hammer to metal, to be the catalyst that would be Creation's worst nightmare.
MrRjwagner
True!
If I remember correctly, and it's been a while, the original writer had an ending already outlined before he left/got reassigned. But when it leaked, Mac the Hack Walters and that other tosser Casey Hudson decided to cut it completely and wing it.
Hence the slapdash bullshit we got served on a hot steaming platter.
Blackemperess Thing is, ME 3 wasn't as terrible as people claimed it was, okay sure it was no way as good as ME 2 which is personally the best out of the three games, but it was still fine and it was nice to actually see this series at least get an ending. How many games have been left with a vague ending or straight up led to a sequel being needed to explain more and continue the story but never came for one reason or another? At least the ME trilogy had a beginning, middle and end.
For the Prothean to English sin, I think after the Cipher in Mass Effect 1, Shepard automatically hears all Prothean language in English. I've not played in a while but if i'm not mistaken, there's a scene on Ilos where you can hear a character speaking coherently, but your squad hears it in Prothean.
you sir are correct with your statement
Daniel Karashtranov Glad to hear it, I was never quite sure if what I was saying was correct. Thanks for letting me know.
Paragade you are correct
I think it would've been cool if they had distinguished between speaking English vs speaking Prothean by having the Protheans speak English without an accent when it's supposed to be their mother tongue but then give them an accent when they speak English.
Yeah I’m pretty sure the cypher, having permanently affected Shepherd, was confirmed to be the reason they could understand the Prothean language. On a side note, Protheans could also read the biology of the different races btw, and I’m pretty sure that in his first scene aboard the Normandy he does this to Shepard. Afterwards he says that he is able to learn different languages this way, which is a pretty handy little skill really!
"Normandy a human vessel" this is actually accurate, because the original Normandy was destroyed and the version you're flying around in now was remade by Cerberus.
And tecnically, the Normandy is an Alliance's ship and, save for some aliens allies; had human crew.
@Muțiu Cristian Shut up, you moron. The Normandy is a human ship.
N7 Raven but it was humans who constructed the sr2, the sr1 was built by humans and turians
@@glowhoo9226 N7 Raven is correct, while humans built it, its design aesthetic is still primarily Turian, its weaponry is Turian and if I recall correctly its shielding is actually based on Asari designs.
The normandy SR-1 and The SR-2 are NOT human ships. The first was co-designed with the Turians. The second was rebuild using the old plans and improved upon making it only bigger. And did everyone forget it has a friggin AI onboard. EDI is half Reaper Tech perhaps created by humans,but human it is not. Plus half your Team exists out of a Turian,Quarian,Salarian,Asari,Drell & Krogan. Sooo technically Cerberus is just a group of hypocritic jerks that really can't do anything without the help of Aliens. And as a little side note. The illusive man,the head of cerberus has long been indoctrinated. To call Cerberus Human is incorrect at it's very core because that dude hears reaper voices in his head.
sin 55 is not a sin, 08:16
shepard can understand prothean as it were english, did you even play first mass effect game?
kojbo It's still a flashblack - It would make more sense to show it in its original form, even if Shep can understand it.
Instead we're forced to listen to incredibly stereotypical (and forced) Jamaican accented rasta Protheans...
Yeah he got that one way wrong
***** Oh it's definitely Jamaican. It isn't even remotely African. Afrikaans, or anywhere near Africa.
kojbo yes, she does, cuz the codebreaker was insulted into her mind Shiala, and the protheans have the skill to read other people's psychiology, so they can unserstand theri language (and because the omni-tool has an automatic translator too)
exactly. he understood architect
Was wondering why Ashley was in your me3 game when she died in the first game. But then I saw #97.
He hates ashley so much that he went back to me1 & saved her so she'd be alive for that showdown in me3 giving him the option to kill her. Lmfaoroflol
Wow...
Actually this video was made before he made the other two Mass Effect videos.
Have to make sure they're both dead; we don't want anyone from virmire to survive. That planet can take the lives of a squad of salarians, a krogan and eventually 2 human beings.
Mass effect 3 is like having great sex, with no climax
that makes no sense climax is good sex
+Tyree Mack ok, let's put my statement in perspective.
Imagine you are a woman ( unless you are one, then it makes things easier) and you are coupling with a partner. And the coupling is the best you've ever had, foreplay, all pleasure points hits, great use for edging.... Then an hour later your parter climaxes, rolls over and falls asleep. Leaving you right on the edge with no means to finish...
That is Mass Effect 3
+Philip Uys (Belrevan) if you're waiting for your partner to do all the job you probably deserve the unfinished bussiness. Sounds like a cold fish to me. Bad analogy.
There are a lot of things better than sex, but Mass Effect 3 is not one of those things. Mass Effect 1 however, that is a gamegasm if I've ever had one.
No game is better then sex none
Hey I just realized that The Reapers are a metaphor for EA and Indoctrination is a metaphor for what happened to BioWare between Mass Effect 1 and 3.
Shit. That's an even better indoctrination theory.
If EA dares to ruin Star Wars Battlefront and 2 if they make it, there will be more upset people that the "Ben Affleck as Batman" story.
Shaun Vega
they can't hear you over the money they have
I bet
Geeky Metalhead you are absolutely right considering the loot boxes tied to progression bullshit they did in BF2 a few months ago and now a bunch of government officials from all over the world are investigating whether or not loot boxes are gambling and if those games should be restricted to A (adult) rating. You should check out YongYea. He’s a gaming news channel who for the past couple months has mostly been covering all the bullshit from BF2 and Destiny 2 whenever they appear. He’s really good imo
you forgot the gratest sin of all: the technology to travel through the galaxy and not even a camera to prove the reapers existence in the past games.
teckno0641 I think the problem was more that what people saw they called a construct of the geth not reapers. They told everybody that sovereign was a giant ship built by the geth since they couldn’t hide it in order to downplay the danger they were really in
Also, seems that no one knows what the Carbon-14's tests are. Is evident that Sovereign is more older than the Geth's entire existence.
@Varric You can't run a carbon-14 test on a Reaper, there's no f***ing carbon in it!
played through these games at least 3 times, and never thought of that lmaoooo
Or the Asari councilor "embracing eternity" to see what Shepard and Liara saw
Bonus sin: the whole trilogy kept track of your save file by whatever first name you picked for Shepard. But at the ending scene with the placard, it only says "Commander Shepard" and not the full name. Like I guess they couldn't fit it on there? Or they couldn't program it to have any user-defined name on the placard? It looked weird just like that.
Would have been great to see Commander Titty Shepard on the placard.
infiniteFERN that's a good point, they should have included the first name. Not only would it make sense, but it's doable. Just adjust the font. Plus, there's very few first names longer than "Commander". That's 9 letters.
@@ricoco7891 would've been funny to see firstnames that were just long spam words. Like jdigijdjsuguidhdhdiifirieid Shepard in really tiny letters; and you know, that people who play this game dozens of times would use dirty names, like dick, penis or azure.
i named my shepard “The Shepard”
@@Camelotsmoon But Dick is an actual name ironically.
''there is no such thing as a short war''
hum, the anglo-zanzibar war lasted less than an hour
Or the 6 Day war.
Captain Casual I'm pretty sure that's a battle or a fight bot a war
a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.
that is what a war is. so really no matter how short if two nations or states or different groups within said nations or states are at physical conflict it counts
the second part (two different groups within a nation/state) is considered a civil war
Grenada was like 12-18 hours lol
The reason there is no such thing as a short war is because of the after effects whether it be psychological, emotional or never forgetting.
Funny thing with Mass Effect.
Leviathans enthrall races to serve them.
Leviathans observe that thralls create synthetics that often rebel.
Leviathans create an intelligence to "police" said races who create Synthetics and maintain order.
Intelligence goes on to destroy organics, destroys some leviathans, creates harbinger and goes on a mass genocide every 50,000 years.
Leviathans sit back and say "eh, fuck it" and the intelligence goes on with its "kill shit to preserve life" bullshit.
Shepard meets a Leviathan, convinces them to kill reapers (this should really be the real ending as they can utterly annihilate reapers) even though they've been sitting still for MILLIONS of years doing NOTHING.
Intelligence doesn't mind its creators joining the war and continues on with its insane genocide.
Seriously, if the idea is that synthetics rebel, then surely it's not wise to take it from this fucking INSANE AI that lives in the citadel. Were they going for a HAL9000 reference of a machine that becomes homicidal but on a larger and self-delusional scale.
Basically, play Mass Effect 3 up to the Harbinger event, then switch the game off. That's where the game ends, GG.
"destroys some leviathans"
Actually they destroyed nearly every single one. Pretty difficult to come back from near-extinction, champ.
"Leviathans sit back and say "eh, fuck it" and the intelligence goes on with its "kill shit to preserve life" bullshit."
Yes, all three of them said this.
"even though they've been sitting still for MILLIONS of years doing NOTHING."
Once again, still near extinction and we have no idea how they reproduce, if they can anymore or how long they live. And if someone burns your house down, kills your family and lets the air out of your tyres, the smartest thing to do is not to run into their base with a machete yelling "Argle bargle wargle".
"Intelligence doesn't mind its creators joining the war and continues on with its insane genocide."
I'm sure when the mice and beavers joined the war against the White Witch in Narnia books she didn't lose much sleep either.
The leviathan you talk to says it is the progeny of the originals meaning descendant. Why would the children get involved if the reapers had almost drove their parents into extinction. Also if the reapers had developed a countermeasure against Leviathan's dominate ability then it would have been much worse as the could turn the leviathans against us
*****
Ok, how about this. if the Leviathans really were so powerful that they could conquer the Universe of organics(which Bioware wants destroy-ites to think) but are also powerful enough to destroy a single Reaper, why didn't they just use the multiple extended periods of Reaper inactivity to destroy Sovereign, enslave the entire Galaxy, have them all create ships to destroy the Reapers, something they could easily do considering they BUILT THE FUCKING REAPERS IN THE FIRST PLACE(the Reapers aren't actually that strong, their major source of power has always been surprise, which is why they centralized all power in the Citadel as ME 1 elaborated entirely).
Instead, Bioware just pens this atrocious story with none of the charisma or intelligence of the first game. Shit, i miss the glory days of ME :(
SempiternalScientist For a person that has "Scientist" in their user name I find your analysis of the science and literary points of the Leviathan plot questionable.
1. A reaper not Harbinger(The single capital ship harvested from the Leviathans) was downed by the leviathans this is true, however it was downed when it arrived in very low atmosphere a few meters above sea level. Why was it not downed when it entered the the star system or or in orbit laws such as Electric resistance increasing with distance or Signal strength deteriorating with distance can easily explain this.
2. The Reaper capital ships and destroyers are not the only methods of warfare the reapers have used in ME2 and ME3 multiplayer they use seeker swarms to paralyse humans In mordin's requirement mission the Vorcha get a plague from the Collectors(Reaper Agents) that renders all species except Vorcha and Humans VERY sick.
The Trilogy has it's flaws but your arguments and many stated in this video calming the writing of Levaithan DLC and ME3 is "atrocious" has lost all credibility to me.
phillipsrulez
Oh really, you want to argue 'science', since I'm pretty sure all 'science' went out the window with ME3(not ME1 which actually stuck much more closely to maintaing the plausibility of hard sci-fi) when the magical space wave in the synthesis ending magically reassembles everyone into synthetic beings which suddenly stops everyone from killing each other. If this was ME1, i might have accepted your knowledge of two out of countless other countervailing laws as marginal evidence, but considering we're playing on Mac Walters Michael Bay sci-fi, where only logic should be used, not scientific laws, logic dictates that Sovereign(who was killed by the fleet) could easily have been taken out by a combined force of even one race.
Your argument about seeker swarms is beyond risible. Seeker swarms don't even affect space vessels which is what we're arguing here. Even more ridiculous is you plucking at random straws like Mordin's requirement mission, where you think the Reapers have developed chemical weapons capable of breaching a hul inter-spacel and infecting a ship. My point is the Leviathans perfected indoctrination, hence their indoctrination would be stronger than the Reapers(as has been proven). In this sense, the whole point of the trilogy becomes inane through Walters' writing in ME 3 by revealing the 'real' villains of trilogy as the Leviathans when the conditions for Leviathan domination existed all throughout the trilogy according to the logical conclusions of his own writing.
If the 'Destroy ending' really does mean the Leviathans will 'take over' the galaxy, they must always have had this potential to take over the galaxy unless of course, they're trapped in their giant seas and your whole argument about signal strength is correct, in which case the Destroy argument again becomes the best ending, since we eliminate the genocidal reapers and the big squid never come out of their precious seas.
If the Leviathans could actually take over the Universe as Bioware wants us to believe with the Destroy ending, then there is literally no change between the time in which the Reapers remain wholly inactive, and their destroyed state post-Destroy ending. In this sense, the Leviathans could have subjugated the entire ending, built the ships which I specifically stated are wholly immune to seeker swarms(I played ME 1, which I'm sure you have not, ships are impervious to Reapers as long as they concentrate fire together) and destroyed the reapers methodically.
I played the games from the year ME1 came out. To those of us there from the start, the absurdity of the ending is apparent, to those who jumped on from ME2, it is less so since the main plot became jumbled up from the Reaper foetus at the end of ME2(when Mac Walters began to take over). I understand people such as yourself might think playing ME2 makes you entitled to an opinion, but it really doesn't.
Those Husks near the beam run were: "DOOOOONNNNNNNTT GOOOOOO!" Shep killed them....
That Marauder Shields was literally crying: "Dont Shep! Don't go in there! Bad for a climax" And Shep Slomo killed him too.
Give Shields a goddamn MEDAL !!!!
+1 Why is Cerberus focused on conquering the Citadel, while the Reapers are killing any high-developed species in the galaxy? They would have it only a few days, before getting killed by the Reapers.
+1 Illusive Man goes from interesting character with morale grey zones (in ME2) to just plain generic bad guy without depth (in ME3).
+1 No way to cure Thane or to recruit Kolyat
+1 Sidemissions are awkwardly overheard by Shepard
+1 The quest mission-menu clusterf*ck
1+ No way to get a proper goodbye with your romance, if you romanced one from ME3 - only a shitty videophone scene.
+1 Jacob is the worst romance option. No matter what, he cheats on you.
+1 Shepard has a glorious battlespeech, saying something like "This is it. No retreat, no surrender - if anyone falls, it has been an honor serving with you", but calls in pickup from air suport as soon as a squad memeber is damaged. Even at the most crucial time.
+1 At the trench-run, Normandy goes from being engage in space combat, to picking up squad memebers on Earth within 14 seconds.
+1 There has never been any technology like the "beam to Citadel"-beam or the weird purple biotics, the Illusive Man suddenly has.
+1 Saren wanted synthesis and Illusive Man wanted to control the Reapers - both bad guys goals is perfectly valid options for Shepard in the end. Synthesis is even encouraged by the Star Kid. Should just have kicked back in a bar in Mass Effect 1 and let Saren do that, instead of stopping him.
+1 Your romance from Mass Effect 2 doesn't show up to your funeral. Hardly any characters from ME2 does.
+1 Where is Shepard in the "control ending" breathing? He/she must have fallen FROM SPACE to Earth, as the Citadel was destroyed.
+1 For 3 games have you been uniting the galaxy in a story which key theme is overcoming differences and standing together to face the real threat. Yet none of this pays of, since standing together and overcoming differences between species will never work anyway says the Catalyst, and the only solution is just for Shepard to jump into some light. F*ck all your hard previous work!
+1 (Omega DLC) You help Aria retake Omega, but she will just keep on chilling in the Citadels club, as though nothing was changed in the status quo - also, Omega won't become a hub again.
+1 (Citadel DLC) Anderson send Shepard on a vacation while the Reapers are scorching the galaxy
Saren was indoctrinated, so he couldn't have achieved whatever it is that he claimed his goal to be.
Jonas Bjerregaard
-because the illusive man probably knew that the citadel was the catalyst
-he was clearly indoctrinated
-Thane said multiple times that his disease had no cure
-the normandy can travel faster than light but going from orbit to shepard's location in a few seconds is a problem?! Also we dont know where the normandy was at that moment, maybe it was near the area, helping with the reaper forces near the beam
-its just a different color, like how the protheans had green biotics, and the bean is just a relay
-defeating the reapers is impossible, that was always made very clear. They are not your regular enemy star fleet, if you were able to defeat them with the power of friendship when much more powerful empires and entities (the protheans and the leviathan) have failed....it would be very silly
+Jonas Bjerregaard "+1 There has never been any technology like the "beam to Citadel"
So the Conduit on Ilos was just a figment of my imagination then?
anything related to the illusive man can be explained by
he was indoctrinated
or he knew
Thanes disease has no cure and nobody focus on it because they have better things to worry about
Sidemissions have always been like that
only for you
its a war most people dont get to say a final goodbye
jacobs personality is terrible
After a major hit shepherd didn't either want or need to waste his injured team mates
joker is probably one of the best Pilots
in the galaxy with one of the fastest ships in a game where light travel is possible
saren was controlled by Sovereign
whos plans where to wipe out the galaxy using saren as a pawn they had no intention of synthesis
the Normandy is in another part of the solar system to earth
you become the catalyst in the control ending you dont need to breath
if you play the game right you prove the ai wrong you prove ai doesn't have to be evil through edi and the geth
she doesn't have to stay on omega
The Normandy was getting retro fitted.
so you are commaded to have a break
Soooo synthesis didn't work because it was forced...so 1 person deciding for the whole galaxy is voluntary ?
+Gasssolo And the brat doesn't give a good explanation for Control ("You can control us" BS) and Synthesis (It will work this time). But does try to scare Shep by warning about wiping out all synthetics. Bastard! And a half synthetic Shep lives in the end. Am sure so will EDI and Geth ( though the memorial scene had EDi's name on the wall:(
+Zed Zamorin seriously though who in the hell would give the choice for someone to control you
+Nylz Ber and label it as paragon ((cause its blue) cause getting brainwashed is totally paragon
@@joaocbcneto What people don't realize is you shouldn't look at the colours but the advocate. Control is the goal of the Illusive Man (who seems to be renegade) and destroy is the goal of Anderson (who seems to be paragon). Control is renegade and destroy is paragon.
@@jeaddhist i chose control first, before the extended cut, just to see how controling giant fucking robo-squids doesn't just turn you into a dicktator. It does. Shepard arrogantly narratea that he has become a god and is using the reapers for the benefit of the galaxy... But weren't the reapers a step further, trying to do what's best for organics? So yeah, defo the worst ending.
"Is it that hard to make an alien language and put English subtitles in?"
Have YOU tried making any convincing alien languages? Besides, that cutscene would be the only time the language is used.
and also vigil back on ilos explained that shepard is able to understand prothean because of the beacon. so, i'm german and am able to write/read/speak english but i still know german aquivalents for (most of) the words. same idea with english prothean ;)
***** Yeah, but those aliens were around the whole game. The Prothean language would've been used for one cutscene, it simply wasn't worth the investment.
Can i point out Star Wars Episode 2 for a min? In that when Anikin goes to talk to Woto the actor was told to "Just say anything that doesn't sound english" its not that hard.
They kind of ignored the whole issue of alien languages from the very first title of Mass Effect. The assumption, I guess, is that these standard-issue Omni-Tool things have built in translators. Either that or for some strange reason most aliens speak English instead of their native language, which makes zero sense because humans are by far the newest addition to the galactic community.
Also the Hanar were taught language by the Protheans, thats why they are so uptight about proper grammar, its also what their religion was based on.
The countless inconsistencies throughout the game can be ignored in a way, but the ending was the biggest slap in the face you can imagine. C'mon, even getting turned by your crush is not as bad as this.
Fuck this, I'm goint to write my own Mass Effect 3 ending.
Like any infant would.
***** No, many fan fiction writers make their own endings and are not infants, especially the ones that write steamy segments with their romances. I can agree this guy's rationality towards the ending was written poorly in his comment, but that doesn't give you a right to refer to anyone as an infant who couldn't even read let alone write.
BlueSpartan107 Difference is that I don't know many fanfiction authors who throw a hissy fit when the canon does something they don't like and declare loudly that they're going to write their own ending. I should know; I write fanfiction. I don't like the direction that several series have taken, and I might even complain loudly about them, but I don't declare loudly that I could do better and proceed to stomp away arms folded and declare that I hate everything the series has ever done now.
This reads like a child who gets kicked out of a clubhouse and yells "Oh yeah? Well I'm going to build my own tree fort just for all my friends, with laser cannons and a pizza machine!"
Otherwise known as Bender from Futurama, correct?
That only thing I have a problem with Mass Effect 3 is the ending. The game, overall, is a masterpiece.
Nancy Lo nah, our choices throughout the game didn't matter, there was too much Liara and some good characters didn't join the party.
@@fuladd I agree with that, liara did get shoved down your throat in number 3
Except for the story. It is really bad
@@PerranB To each his own.
I hope the mass effect remasters fix everything that is wrong
Add 100 sins for saving Ashley instead of Kaidan
m9yc no, there will never be enough. mshepard and kaidan is the ultimate ship.
And then take them away because you can shoot Ashley yourself in Priority: The Citadel II if you do things right. Why let an exploding base do the job for you when you can do it yourself? Much more satisfactory.
Besides, Ashley is annoying and borderline race/speciesist but at least she's not generic blandtacular whiny good guy like Kaiden is. She has a personality, even if it's a negative one, whereas Kaidan is just... boring. Utterly unremarkable.
One Week Wizard The reason I let Ash die is because she complained about about every little thing (and yes she was extremely racist). But Kaiden isn't always a goodie two shoes. He can be quite the badass sometimes. I respect your opinion and sorry if this makes you mad. Cheers.👍
Chick character vs boring headache guy. The choice was obvious.
D Death Htf is Ashley racist? Do you even pay attention to her dialogue or are you one of uneducated dumbasses who are like "Because Ashley doesn't trust aliens because they've dangerous and unpredictable so she's automatically a racist" right?
So many of your supposed "sins" were either jokes, you not understanding figures of speech, you not understanding that Shepard isn't unknowing, or just flat out showing a lack of knowledge of the Mass Effect universe.
you have to remember this is for laughs does not mean he hates the game or thought all these things were bad just making jokes give him a brake made me a laugh
there are more shit videos on youtube then any one can count this one is well put together and gives a laugh or two dont flip shit because its a game you like i like im sure you like videos that make fun of other things that other people like just laugh if its funny or leave the video if you dont like it
micheal ball English?
micheal ball I hope and pray that English is not your first language.
right because people in the youtube comments are so known for there amazing grammar instead of coming up with a cheap over used way to insult some one why dont you ether say something about the argument at hand or shut up and keep scrolling
While there's obviously some nitpicking and jokes (sometimes one "sin" is both), most of these are genuine problems with the game. Not game-breaking in most cases, but genuine problems. The ending being one. Don't get me wrong, I love this series, and while I did thoroughly enjoy the ride that ME3 takes us on, the ending was a burning bag of failure compared to the rest - including the plot of ME2 that most people dislike so much! Throw out this ending, and replace it with one that I saw suggested in a video linked to a forum on the subject (can't remember the name or link for the life of me, though) where we get a grand finale against Harbinger and the rest of the reapers, and then you've got a magnum opus for the series! In utter SPITE of the ending, though, I love the game and series, flaws and all.
On a side note, I appreciate that Bioware cared enough to release the extended cut in an attempt to quell the hatred of the ending, but it was like throwing a coat of polish over a dead animal. Sure, it'll look shiny, but it's still dead. And no amount of polish or shine will bring it back.
Last side note, the one thing that pisses me off the most (just voicing my humble opinion) is that, despite all the hardships, the loss, the betrayals and overall dismay Shepard (and by extension, us, the players) had to put up with throughout ALL 3 of the games, there isn't even an OPTION for a truly happy ending. All the war assets, galactic readiness, preparations in the first 2 games; it all meant nothing. Brought peace to the Geth? Helped EDI feel truly alive? Well, if you want even the faint hope that Shep's alive, you have to DESTROY both of them. Telling me the crucible can't specifically target Reapers is utter crap - you're telling me that with ALL the Reaper tech, artifacts, and actual dead reapers that we've encountered, the army of the galaxy's most brilliant minds couldn't add in a way to make sure the Crucible's blast only targeted Reapers? Sorry, not buying it. Sorry for the long post, but I really wanted to blow some steam. Also, Citadel DLC is the true ending!
"Brought peace to the Geth? Helped EDI feel truly alive? Well, if you want even the faint hope that Shep's alive, you have to DESTROY both of them."
That hurt most of all. It was terrible to have to choose between keeping a promise to Tali (EC makes it hurt all the more) or keeping the Synthetics alive.
Oh well. Maybe Shep can convince the Quarians to rebuild the geth?
Woody Reid I romanced Tali too, and the more I think about this ending, the more I realize that each ending goes against Shepard's character, at least if you went Paragon like I did. Shep would do anything short of killing innocents to stop the Reapers - if he had to wipe out an entire race, as the geth could well be classified towards the end.
So, I scrapped the cannon for my own version of the ending, where I destroyed the Reapers without killing any other synthetics, and went back to Tali to live on her homeworld and raise two adopted kids - one human girl and one quarian boy. Oh, and visit Garrus somewhere tropical on occasion while we sit back and make it big off royalties from the vids!
I went Paragon as well, and I had to destroy the synthetics. Letting the reapers live would have meant letting Starbrat live. But with a quarian admiral on my side (not to mention being the savior of the universe and all), I was fairly sure I could convince the Quarians to rebuild the geth.
Side note. Fighting the Reaper on Rannoch. Best Talimancer exchange, no?
Woody Reid First, on that last part of your comment, absolutely! And I totally get the wanting to kill starbrat, but I destroyed the synthetics because A) it killed the reapers, which was the whole point of the crucible in the first place, and B) it was the only option where Shepard lives, and I was NOT about to leave Tali by herself in the galaxy. Just wasn't an option.
My thoughts exactly. I promised Tali I'd come back to her. ;-;
Though, if Shep died... I mean, Garrus and Tali were my go-to team, and he's the one that carried her away to safety, so...
Food for thought.
Fun fact: the story in ME 3 was originally gonna be something way different than what we actually got. Remember when Dark energy was constantly mentioned and referenced throughout the second game? That was gonna be the main plot point for the third game's story. I can't remember the exact details but this was gonna be the explanation of why the Reapers go through this cycle. To try and find a way to survive this destructive force of the universe or something along those lines. But unfortunately, the guy that wrote the story for Mass Effect 2 left Bioware before the script for ME 3 was even written and the result was the half assed story we have today where the Reapers used painfully obvious flawed logic that even a ten year old could see past. At least it's still an okay game. The second one is still the best one, though.
Other than the me3 ending I still think me2 is the weakest entry of the series. All 3 have their own plot holes depending on your choices but me2 was a third person shooter that got slapped with the mass effect name at least 3 had about a 3rd of the rpg elements that made the first one good
That would explain a lot actually. The dark energy seemed like a crucial problem in the second one and was very weird how they just suddenly dropped it. Thank you for this 👍🏾
Yep I think the quarians were onto something if I recalled correctly.
P.s.Your opinion is wrong.Mass effect 2 is just okay not great.
Was it too much to ask for an ending where the reapers blow up? No strings attached?
I mean its pretty clear the Reapers are infinitely intelligent... so control really isn't realistic.
.....No?... Okay then.
well then it wouldnt be a tough call
not enough ems, eh? XD
yeah i know, i totally agree with what you said,
anywho, Effective Military Strength (EMS) is the percentage of your Total Military Strength, the default is 50%, so at the end it`ll be like, 2,000 or so, and you need 4,000 for the secret ending, so secret, I`ve had to tell dozens of people that it exists, which is strange, since it`s a 4 year old game.
So you obviously believe the "collective intelligence of all reapers" when it tells you that "blowing us up would also totally screw over your friends"?
I dunno...in the entire destroy ending, you never actually see any Geth fall over, nor EDI for that matter, she only shows up on the end on the rememberance board.
Well, lucky that the fourth game ditches that entirely.
To be fair, most branching story games like this can´t really keep branching and have to converge to some way again. They fan out in the middle, and then converge back to a limited number of endings. It was almost inevitable.
There was a different ending planned, back when ME2 was relatively new - the Reapers would be harvesting organics because their overuse of the Mass Effect Relays was building up dark matter at a rate which could potentially destroy the universe; hence their stopping progress each cycle. Shepard would have the option to either let them continue harvesting or destroy the Reapers and seek another solution to the dark matter build-up... Basically, it would be pretty ambiguous about what the result of your choice would be.
Still, while the above would have also had the whole "pick one of two/three" possible endings, it would have at least made SENSE unlike the Starbrat's nonsensical ramblings (and that Shepard somehow cannot oppose him, except for the Refuse Ending which gives NO real depth beyond "rocks fall everyone dies").
Am I the only one who didn't completely hate James Vega?
No, I actually liked him. But I think that there should be the option to kill him (like you had the option to kill Ashley)
Probably. No, I'm kidding. I didn't hate him. I just don't care about him much.
Well, you do get to punch him in the face a few times
Nope, I just found him funny becuse of his shallowness. But still I think he is one wasted character in this game.
I loved his cutscenes and dialogue items. Of all the ME3 characters, he was one of my favourites to cultivate a friendship with, because it started out rocky and adversarial, but then evolved (very nicely) into a real friendship. As a squadmate, however, he was very bland, especially next to other Soldier options like Ashley and Garrus. I took his best ability (that inferno blast) for myself, and then never used him in a mission again.
The movie Paragon Lost is a prequel that stars James Vega in that Collector mission he told Shepard about, and it's actually pretty good (I'm not a huge fan of the anime style, but I enjoyed the movie nonetheless).
Funny vid.
In the worst ending of ME2 (everyone dies), it shows ships enter the Omega-4 relay getting to the Collector Base as TIM looks on. Still, blowing or saving the base looks like it still lands Cerberus with most of the proto-Reaper intact. (I guess the glowing doughnut of EMP/firey doom was all for show?)
Which once again, makes ME2 pointless.
Smud, okay, we get it. ME2 is pointless....please move on.
how about, no deonne73?
But how did he get ships there?
Shepard spends all of ME2 fighting the Collectors who are making human smoothies to make a human Reaper. And thank god Shepard stopped that human Reaper because....
Bonus: in the ME3 ending they say that Reapers are 100% robot so making a human/Reaper hybrid is double pointless since it wasn't a Reaper.
DownwithMarx the reaper iff was needed so the collectors thought they were another collector ship and didn't just attack them the wanted to go in with stealth. once the collectors were killed there is no one to stop TIM from sending ships through the omga 4 relay.
One thing that's always bugged me about the Reapers is that the Leviathans, upon seeing their thralls create synthetic life just to have it turn on them, does the same damn thing and expects a different outcome
Direct personality dissemination not required.
+Legion Yay! :)
..I cried when you "died", Jesus, don't scare me. ;-;
Erika M
We are sorry that we have brought you sadness.
+Legion That unit does have a soul. And a rather brave one at that.
Sawtje2
Correct.
With closed arms, the Citadel looks like a vibrator!
Dave Mustaine lol it does
+Dave Mustaine Looks like a blunt to me, haha.
I like how you actually picked apart the starbrat's bullshit.
While Mass Effect 3 had a fair number of problems, and this video could potentially be funny if it was more clever or well-thought-out, a lot of "sins" highlighted in this video come across as as badly-thought-out. Of particular note, at the beginning of the game, was the mention of beginning the game with access to powers: that's only true if you import a save file. You'll begin at whatever level you ended Mass Effect 2 at an start with a vague approximation of whatever abilities you picked when leveling up in that game (you'll also have 2 or 3 more skill points than if you leveled up to 30 in ME3 itself). A blank-slate playthrough begins at Level 1, with barely any access to anything. The way the game it balanced, being at level 30 means more options without making you particularly overpowered compared to a low-level character, so this works and aptly rewards players for playing through the second game and carrying over their Shepard.
The complaint that the game begins "as if no one knows about the Reapers" is also kind of silly, since the game actually does have different dialogue for imported saves versus completely new games. An imported save features dialogue from Anderson that's more specific about what happened at the end of Mass Effect 2, while a fresh new file will have more vague-sounding dialogue so as to avoid spoiling the second game's final boss. A bit of a silly precaution since players of the game will go on to learn the broad strokes of the harvesting plot eventually anyway, but the game's opening is also part of the demo, so it makes sense to have a relatively less-spoilery variant dialogue line there.
Mostly this kind of just reads like a less-funny imitation of CinemaSins. CinemaSins is not only more clever, though, it's also about cinema. This kind of thing can be applied to videogames, but I think it needs to be adapted more thoroughly to really poke fun at gaming-specific problems. There were times when I chuckled, like when you highlighted the weirdness with the kid or when you poked fun at certain characters being stubborn when there was no need toward the middle. But the video ended up two long and bloated with less-funny sins, and the impression I was left with was that you were trying too hard to run up the counter.
The One True Nobody! Your comment contradicts itself this is his play through so if he imported a save file then he has all the powers but you also said the vague dialogue is with a clean slate so it doesn't make sense what did he pick because you aren't making sense here
The One True Nobody! Also those are meant to be bad sins watch any son channel like this and you will find others nitpicking just like this I suggest animation sins and cinema sins
Half of these sins is just author not paying attention
Still, is funny. Though I wish he pay attention to the lore so he could find more sins.
I really wish they picked up your squad mates with a shuttle. The entire Normandy coming down is ridiculous.
Still think this is one of the best games ever made, if not THE best. (Even with the not-so-good ending)
Every game is an Amazing game, AS LONGER AS YOU REMOVE ALL OTHER GAMES FROM EXISTENCE, AND AREN'T ALLOWED TO COMPARE, shut up, you have low standards, if you think this game is above average
sasuke47001 To be fair this game was still pretty damn good. Obviously it's not the best game ever made (is it even possible to designate a game as the 'best ever'?), but it still had a lot going for it. It had a pleasant blend of story and combat mechanics and, unlike other games where choices don't mean shit (looking at you, David Cage games), your choices were important. I think the problem was that they weren't reflected properly in the last game at all. I mean, the Rachni Queen? Krogans? LEVIATHAN?! Where were they? The ending tainted the entire series in my opinion. Pick your favourite colour and watch a pretty lightshow with minor CGI edits was all it was.
Jack Sparks Agreed, but for a game to be "the best ever" is merely an opinion. If someone called Gears of War the best game ever, it might be the best game ever that they have played before to them, making it an opinion.
sasuke47001 ^^^ It was his opinion on his favourite game. What's your favourite game? Do you have a game that you think is the "best ever"? Probably not, but you may have one that you like above others. What if I were to tell you to shut up and that you have low standards? You probably wouldn't care or maybe you would care and turn on the Caps Lock as you did above. Either way, I have made my point. Think hard and reply.
Chad Schlesky Can't be bothered to think hard, anyway, A game that is that flawed is not the best game ever to anyone, It's damn right terrible, and is a disgrace to the series, and it's generally an opinion, some games are amazing, which only little will refute, while some are terrible, but some people might even say it's the best game ever, Mass effect does not even fit into the good section, for fans or non-fans, 1 person thinks it's the best game ever = delusion, , not opinion
, it's like ranking a game in stars, If one person thinks it's a 10 while others think it is a 5 , and don't be so damn fucking ignorant calling it an opinion, it's not about opinions, its about what makes a good game, flaws and negative, the experience, it doesn't just jump down to opinion, I hate how people always cop out, by saying opinion this and opinion that, Opinions are totally irrelevant, the other games have better features and by now are cheaper than ME 3 there for makes ME3 inferior to the other games
Again, it was an opinion. What is the definition of an opinion? Do you want the answer from a dictionary such as Webster or yours? An opinion is a personal view: the view somebody takes about an issue, especially when it is based solely on personal judgment. The fact that you dislike the game and think is terrible is basically an opinion. In your dictionary and mindset, it may be different, but this is reality. Even if he was the only one to like this game and think it was the best, he is still entitled to an opinion, the basis of this discussion. Okay, I'm guessing you're still being ignorant and ready to comment back something else that resembles stupidity, so hear me out. Let's say someone liked paint and you liked the brush. We take a toll and every single person we meet says, "I enjoy paint rather than the brush." I guess they're all wrong and you're right, eh? Don't tell me how stupid the comparison was. It wasn't the real one. I was comparing it to you. Do you now understand how unintelligent you are?
"There is no such thing as a short war"
...yes there is, they've happened before. The macabre glories of asymmetric warfare.
The Anglo Zanzibar war comes to mind, it only lasted about 45 minutes
Giving it a sin for it being made for EA is bullshit.
EA sucks but this is one of EA's least fucked up series.
And giving it a sin for a moment in Mass Effect 2? This is bullshit.
I disagree. This is one of EA's MOST fucked up series. Nonetheless, I agree that giving them a sin because it has EA's logo on it is stupid, as well as sinning one moment in ME2.
i'm going to disagree, being asociated with ea ALWAYS deserves a sin and mass effect's track record is shoddy as hell, the only game they didn't fuck up royaly in some way is mass effect 2(not that me2 is perfect, but fuuuuuuucccck), that's one out of 3! ME1 was shit gameplay wise and ME 3 was only kinda shit gameplay wise, but has one of the worst conclusions to a trilogy since ever (also most of the party members sucked)
ColeVecsion ME1 gameplay wasn't that bad. Furthermore, you can't blame EA for ME1 because they weren't involved at the time. Also, ME1 gets extra props because it lets you explore and discover the world on your own. The other games do to a certain extent, but not to the same degree as ME1. It was more open-world. The lore was awesome. The Reapers were awesome (in every sense of the word). Gameplay might not have been as simplified, but it certainly was good. Remember that Bioware was trying to blend a tabletop RPG into a shooter at the time (something different than Knights of the Old Republic, which they were also behind). I think that gameplay-wise, ME3 was the best. It was the most refined and it fit really well with what the audience wanted. ME2 was by and large the best game, I do agree. Story, gameplay, lore, graphics--it made ME2 twice as good as its predecessor. But ME3 sucked super hardcore because of its story. I'm still uber pissed at EA for what they changed about the Reapers and how they basically gave the original lore the shaft. And the fact that I had to pay extra for content that was already on the disk pisses me off even more. So ME3, while its gaming mechanics were good (even multiplayer wasn't half bad, but I can think of ways it can improve), the game can screw itself.
Psionic Phazon
i never said EA was to blame for ME1, EA is just garbage scumbag publisher and that alone deserves a sin by default :P
Wait what did they sin from ME2?
Basicly, the whole game wasn't that great as the previous two games. No thanks to EA and their amazing rushing capabilities towards games they publish.
Yeah only the ending sucked... and that on the PC-version you did nearly everything with the spacebar
BlizzardSword Nah, I'm still dissapointed by the fact they removed like nine or ten characters from the squad list. I mean why is it limited to only six now?
Maybe the alliance does not have the money for more than six xD
BlizzardSword I think in sin 143 the reason Cerberus get the remains of the reaper was of kelly, she could have send a code the the IFF before the ship was attacked by the reapers.that my guess at this.
Μe3 has segments that stomp all over me2. The dialogue is twice as much in Me3. and yes autodialogue which was fine counts towards that. your squamates have TONS to say in Me3. Me3 WITH the Dlc is on another league
Not using the default Shepard face. DING!
what's up with the Kaiden hate?
+SkullKid20999 Easy, Kaiden sucks. ( So does Ashley, really. )
+Kori Ampusant Kaiden's a bro. People just hate him because he's not dark and edgy.
MrRemorseless Garrus is a bro too, and so is joker. people still love them.
Kori Ampusant Yes, but Kaiden doesn't have the badassness of Garrus nor the cynicism of Joker. He's just a good guy. That's why I believe people mistake him for being a poor character. He's fine.
+The Civic Mechanic Finally someone with some brains. Everyone always talking about Ashly even know kaiden has near the exact same lines outside of romance.
Sin 78: you have bad PC/Console.
Basically, the shitty ending and nonsensical story plots developed at the end, which didn't fit with the rest of the game, as a lame excuse to end the series with ME3. Mass Effect is just another victim of EA's shitty writing staff.
Frederick II I should have been more specific. They are ending the story of Shepard, whom Mass Effect has revolved around and been propelled by, which is a death sentence for the series.
Frederick II That is so true. Though, I wouldn't say Shepard stopped being Shepard when they met the god child. Shep stopping being Shep when he/she obeyed the god child and didn't point out the blatant bullshit it was spouting about organics and synthetics not cooperating. The new found peace between the Geth and the Quarians was proof enough of that and Shepard should have thrown that it that little turd's face before tossing him out an airlock and destroying the reapers.
And best of all, that would have sufficed as BOTH a Paragon and Renegade option.
Lone Wanderer
What they should have done was scrap all that garbage, let the crucible be an anti-reaper-nuke-killing-super-special-michael-bay-approved-bad-ass bomb that let us win and then show us the consequences of our actions throughout the three games. Do the Krogan run rampant? Do the Rachni stay peaceful? Do the Salarians get ostracized for being dicks? Do the Quarian and the Geth keep the peace? Do we find out which store was really Shepard's favorite?
im blame EA not giving bioware enough time
the games bioware has done so far, the only thing bioware can get wrong is the mechanics, most of the other stuff was timing. why was ME 1 and 2 outstanding but ME3 wasn't? EA rushed Bioware.
Well, this is more nitpicking than pointing out real problems.
that's why these videos do they nitpick every last detail as a joke. but of course they will also cover some of the real issues in the game.
Blackestfang Well, the "everything wrong with XY movies" series was less of a twat. They pointed out bad things, and made so ridiculos jokes that it was obvious it's not part of their critiwque. Here, however, everything goes to the gutter.
1234kalmar I will admit he goes a bit overboard but with kind and helpful comments will help him now what they need to change to make this version of sins better. most of these comments are calling him a ripoff, or being butthurt about certain things he commented on.
Blackestfang I actually like the Idea of Videogame sins. I'm sure he asked for permission, so the rip off claims are just Meh. But yeah, he got overboard with the criticism.
if people read the description they even say "obviously inspired by cinemasins" and links them. so he is creating the idea 99% of ripoffs will not say this and credit who they got the idea from because crediting and linking who you got the idea from is promoting them! a good thing!
I know the elcor where kinda boring but when I went to their home planet...... The disappointment I felt from not being able to see them was heavier than the ending to this.
Who else came back here after the redux sin video
Me!
I'll just keep watching CinemaSins.
no man, gamingsins is good, even if it insult your favourite game. the others are better
Even though I like ME 3 I cannot agree more with this video. Maybe this guy exaggerates some things (what's wrong with Jack's haircut? It has nothing to do with gaming sin) but most of this video is actually true... And made me laugh sometimes xD
But honestly, Diana Allers and James Vega... Why the hell are they even in this game?! Vega is THE WORST Mass Effect character ever introduced and Diana? Where did she even come from?
Abuyin ibn Djadir ye vega is pretty much a generic solider with no backstory or personality (unless you watch the anime )
i'mme i'mmme I did watch the anime and I wish I could unsee it.
Abuyin ibn Djadir it wasent that bad tho it had a LOT of plot/game/timeline holes (citadel in front of earth pre-reper invasion,kinetic bariers using ammo for heavy wepons ,vega being invited to n7 when in the game he says he got invited on the day the repers attacked ....to name a few)
CreedOfHeresy well did i say it was good?no i said it wasent bad ...as in it was a good idea but they didint manage to pull it off probably because they gave it to some ppl who didnt know what they were doing
CreedOfHeresy well from what i understood they fucked it up because someone leaked the original ending so they had to improvise (correct me if i'm wrong)
There is no number of Sin that can adequately describe what is going on in this game's final minutes....
The crucible deus ex machina device is worth 100 sins by itself.
It's not Deus Ex Machina if you've been building towards it throughout the entire game. Every damn mission you do is just trying to get more support for Earth both in military and scientific prowess just to build it. In order to be Deus Ex Machina, it has to come completely out of left-field with no setup just as all seems lost, which this isn't.
@@Randoman590 The Crucible itself isn't a deus ex machina, but the Catalyst and the choices he gives you sure are. Especially the Synthesis ending. Hell, it's the literal definition of the term. Fuck, even this very specific ending trope was lifted straight from Deus Ex!
1) Why does nobody get the fact that this is INSPIRED by CinemaSins? Apparently the video description is a useless feature, nowadays.
2) Who cares about how somebody goes about making something derived from another source? If the world functioned like everyone that's complaining wanted, and nobody used their inspiration from other ideas, there would be very little innovation in the modern age. Why? Because much of humanity's innovation in the modern age has been derived from other ideas that already existed!
i think if cinemasins CARED about a ripoff of his show hed have pressed charge or something... cinemasins doesnt even WANT to do game "critic'' i think that the fac that this guy says : Obviously inspired by CinemaSins. If you haven't checked them out, please do:
then hes not stealing from him hes just offering a similar FUN way to show us the issues he has with the game
i say its all legit and fun
There is a difference between "inspired by something else" and "complete unoriginal copy of something else".
kakashi76767 Y'know, the second I saw your username, I figured you would be the first person to say something along those lines.
Again, I refer you to my second point, but this time, think on it a little more.
Don't like it? Ask CinemaSins to make a GamingSins channel, then.
Xiaolruc yes of course, because I'm Kakashi, the copy ninja. Only I am allowed to make unoriginal copies of other people's good ideas.
Harbinger never shot the Normandy in the evac scene cuz it still had the IFF installed so essentially Harbinger saw the Normandy as one of his reaper buddies.
Matt Allen Troo, troo.
Matt Allen I thought its because they had the stealth system engaged and considering the system protects them generating emissions, then Harbinger couldnt 'see' it through its own scanners, being an AI/sentient ship
the Harbinger scene is not real. It's also part of Shepard's indoctrination process.
... :D
Gendo ruwo It can be explained by rational facts, so coming up with #IlluminatiConfirmed stuff isn't necessary.
Gendo ruwo IT is just an imaginative ending made by the players, you're suppose to fill in what u wanted to have happen. There's no canon ending bcuz each game u or I make is taking place in another universe. IT has as much value as every other ending bcuz really its left up to imagination
"Game unnecessarily censors f"ck" The irony is that you censor it yourselves xD
Fax
You forgot the biggest sin of the game. If I do Tali's Loyalty mission in ME2, and she survives the suicide mission, Why the Hell isn't she with the Normandy at the beginning of ME3? I mean it's her home after her own people basically excommunicate her after her loyalty mission. Politically there would be a major crapstorm if they tried to kick her off the ship, and she's a proven asset.
Nobody likes Quarians, the Alliance couldn't care less of they hurt her feelings by kicking her off the ship.
303 people have an unhealthy emotional attachment to Mass Effect 3.
375 now... sad really.
***** No. They're just not blinded by hamfisted melodrama.
If you like drama for the sake of drama, that's your prerogative, but one doesn't have to be nitpicky to see the glaring flaws in ME3.
I've just finished it for the first time. Haven't played 1 or 2 yet, i'd just heard that Mass Effect was good so I bought a copy in my local 2nd hand game shop.
I thought it was pretty damn good. Yeah, the story had a few holes, but every story does. Yeah, the ending wasn't great, but it doesn't deserve the shitstorm it's received. It wasn't THAT bad. My biggest annoyance is the monotone, unemotional voice acting that really undercuts the tension.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to download the first two games of the PlayStation Store.
James Bennett pretty sure ME1 didn't ever come out on playstation lol and what ***** said
***** holy shit when did they release it for PS?
EA 1 sin?
That few!? Are you insane!? It counts for at least 2! No, 20. 30. 100. 200. 500! 100! ONE MILLION! YEAH THAT SHOULD DO IT
Throw it out of the airlock!
(i mean EA :D )
throw it out of the airlock! Into a black hole!
Hey, he did put it first.
It's just a theory, dear. But sure, into the sun then!
Frederick II WAAAAYYY OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAND!!!!!!!
i dont get why people think this game's ending is better with the extended cut dlc. its not. sadly, from what ive heard bioware had much better plans for the plot of this game. something to do with dark energy like on ME2's tali recruitment mission. it didnt come to fruition. drew karpyshyn left
www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-3-series-former-lead-writer-reveals-original-ending-ideas/
One thing they DID do wrong was no matter WHAT armor is worn, when you get hit, it defaults to a burned version of Shep's default N7 set.
Damn, you didnt have to straight carbon copy cinema sins
Add another sin because Turian blood is purple, not red, look at the sniper scene.
Lucas Adams actually turian blood is blue, ala ME2, when you go to recruit garrus and he gets shot by the rocket there's a pool of blue blood. Turian is blue, salarian is green, asari is purple, and krogan is orange.
Your opinion of character sullied the quality of this. Shame since you actually pointed out some decent things.
+Jerrad Marsan THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT
You forgot something, when saving Jack, she says the mech is out of their league (or something similar), but in Mass Effect 2, right when you get her out of the cryo, she took down 3 mechs and a lot of soldiers with no problems.
No such thing as a short war? What about the Six Day War in 1967, or the war between Britain and Zanzibar on August 27th, 1896 that lasted 38 minutes?
Something that pissed me off about the game that I'm surprised you didn't add as a sin, was the character development where David Anderson, a member of the US military, who has a strong American accent, told Shepard that he was from London, England. They pulled that part of his character bio out of their ass, didn't they?
He could've been born in London and moved to wherever in America with his...parents? Idfk
Anderson wasn't a part of the US Military. There is no US Military in the series. They're all part of the Systems Alliance. All military forces merged when the unified Earth government was established. So, you can be born on any part of Earth or one of its off world colonies and serve in the "Earth Military". That's why you have people with all kinds of accents wearing the same uniform.
brak97 True, my mistake. But what about the American accent, along with the claim of being English?
Fakenit66 He said he was born in London, he didn't say he lived there.
Anderson was part of the Systems Alliance not the US military, it no longer exists, and Nationalities are no longer relevant in Mass Effect, you are no longer judged on where you were born, you are no longer American or Russian you are Human
wreave dying sort of randomly, was a nod to players who were dumb enough to get wrex killed.
you forgot to add that some of us didnt even put udina or what ever his name is on the council most of us most likely placed anderson on the council...i mean what wasthe point of even doing that
Once you said that thing about the Asari not helping til they needed help themselves. Besides Samara and Lara I have since then treated all other Asari like shit. "Oh we've had this thing that could've stopped this whole war for thousands of years, but nah we felt like endangering the galaxy for our own gain. Sorry."
Shiala and Aethyta (Liara's father) weren`t shit. In fact, Aethyta doesn't say any pretty thing about her own race, in ME2.
The Windows Vista joke killed me xD
***** maybe both =/
Starbrat: "Yo dawg, I heard you hate synthetics so I made synthetics to harvest organics to prevent organics to be killed by synthetics."
- Starbrat logic in a nutshell everyone
Also, Leviathan is apparently the living embodiment of the Reapers.
How is the kid teleporting a sin? The whole point is the kid isn't real, he's a figment of Shep's imagination.
That has never been confirmed. thats just a theory.
@Smashguy96 A GAME THEORY
Oh if they just went with the damn indoctrination theory. So much sense would suddenly happen.
"Throw it out the airlock"
what a great idea !!!!
Sin number 198 and 199: GCN yelling "wrong!" should be counted as a jumpscare attempt
I usually dislike the videos that pinpoints the different errors in a movie or in a game, but you do it in such a way that it's actually really funny and we feel that you, most of the time, like what you're criticising. I may be wrong, but that's why I like your vids
You forgot the sin "Electronic Arts"
Um.... He says "EA" at 0:07
Dave Tucker um....
kakashi76767 There's an Electronic Arts in the end credits too.
QwertyCaesar I think he ment EA as a whole, not just that one time. =X
No doubt that EA are the greed whores of gaming, but on the very first title they let BioWare do its thing and stuck to promotion. Which worked out really well. Then in ME2 and much, much more so in ME3 they took BioWare's role down to just the basic concepts more or less. So EA is not all bad, when they sit in the backseat and shut the hell up during the development & production stages they can be a real asset. But those dollar-signs in their eyeballs get so damn big they're well known for knocking down any good idea for another pointless overly-expensive DLC pack or yet another Horde Mode Multiplayer Map.
You realise most of these sins are by your own accord.
7:52
Oh, you mean like the ones that were sticking out of the Eden Prime's surface in the first game? Like the actual reason they dug up that beacon that propelled the first game? Yeah, totally no one noticed them.
9:27 Actually, as they're in the Normandy SR-2, it IS a human designed ship (Also, it's logical for Mordin to assume this since he joins you on ME2 when the Normandy SR-2 was completely designed by Cerberus). The original Normandy was the one that was made with human/turian design.
Hey, does anyone else remember a time when people at least bother to come up with their own jokes when imitating someone else's idea?
EA only counted for 1 ... should have counted for like a gazillion
Me, watching this like it was uploaded yesterday: 8 YEARS AGO?!
game sin 54: shepard obviously has the cipher so their language is translated to the language he understands
55 is wrong.
Shepard hears the protheans in English.
also a few more are wrong.
*EDIT AFTER PLAYING DLC:* also you don't know how to listen apparently.
Liara also said something about the cipher from Mass effect one.
So learn how to listen before making a "everything wrong."
Tatooine Sandtrooper Javik? who dat
Tatooine Sandtrooper ya wot m8? How do you get him?
Tatooine Sandtrooper oh damn!
DLC IS EVIIIILL
Tatooine Sandtrooper not free. WITH THE GAAAMEEE
Tatooine Sandtrooper 10000x times better!!!
8:07 - If you picked up the Prothean cipher in the first game, this is explained as Shephard being able to understand their language through it. And Javik later reveals that he can adapt to any language once he's touched another being thanks to his physiology. Therefore, it's possible for Shephard to understand what they're saying even if they're speaking a dialect other than his own.
Minus 1 sin for not paying attention during the explanation.
Also, if you go into the third game from the perspective that Shephard is dying in Vancouver, from the moment the vision fuzzes up, it makes a hell of a lot more sense. Oh, the continuity still sucks, but let's be real, how often do your dreams make 100% sense to you?
The Catalyst appearing as the kid makes some sorta sense if you remember a line that Leviathan said. "Your memories give voice to our words." Who's to say they wouldn'rt impliment such a feature into their technology like the Catalyst? The Reapers managed to do it with Indoctrination.
triumphant entrance.
EA. ping
So many things were wrong with ME3. But the worst was probably having to buy so much FREAKING DLC!
Nobody pointed a gun to you and forced you to buy those DLCs.
Complains game is flawed and still buys all the DLC. *Ding*
Yea how dare he hold up a company to higher standards instead being complacent and "simply dont buy it." You would think consumers had the ability to speak against things or something.
The Citadel DLC was really good at least.
Lord Kommissar Petitt If you say so.
i have to admit that i burst into laughter at 5 in the morning when GCN shouted 'WRONG'!!
The point about Shepard's dancing @ 6:26 made me laugh so hard.
Solid 80% of these sins were annoying and wrong
I got to #8 and stopped watching, someone really is pissed about something and makes "rage" video.
game sin 54: shepard obviously has the cipher so their language is translated to the language he understands
runningguy54321 if you think this is raid video you're ignorant and clearly lack simple comprehension skills. GCN nitpicks the hell out of games. It exist purely for entertainment and satire. Only butthurt fanboys take what he says seriously and rage over UA-cam like whiny bitches
*rage
How? ME3 is a garbage game from start to finish.
GCN gets a sin for calling fire a "chemical" *Ding*
Bioware just didn't get alotted enough time to develop this game properly. I mean, what's the point of gathering war assets like the rachni or geth or whoever, and the endgame comes and they are nowhere to be seen?
If only we could've gotten the ending we deserved, man. I hope with the next iteration BioWare can have all the time they need. People will hate it no matter what, so I just want them to make the best game and tell the best story with the best characters possible.
Actually, the main writer, Drew Karpyshyn who was also the creator of Mass Effect lore/story wise was taken off the writing job shortly after Mass Effect 2 was finished to start work on writing for The Old Republic (which is ironic because this resulted in two flops) and the other two writers were left to finish it off and were told to basically come up with an ending because apparently Drew's ending was 'too sci-fi' for the casual common audience to find it appealing.
The ending we got was not even remotely similar to the ending Drew had envisioned and although he had no actual script written out he had a basic plot for how things would go planned out ever since ME1 was first in production and this was fully realized at the end of ME2 with the human reaper. Why harvest humans in particular to make a human reaper? I don't see them doing that to any other race. Why the reason was because there was a sun that was going to destroy the universe (this sun is mentioned in ME2 when you save Tali on that hot planet) the reason for its expansion is unknown other than it having something to do with dark matter/energy. The reapers were harvesting humanity into a single reaper in the hopes that with humanities diversity that we could concoct a plan to save them and the universe.
The ending was a situation where you would choose between letting the reapers die and working out how to solve the problem yourself, submitting humanity to the reapers to save the universe or allowing them to harvest every other race in the hopes it will work in exchange for human survival. (This is only the basic layout that was made, it isn't very fleshed out but this is what he had planned since ME1 and obviously it needed more fleshing out... But at least it made sense and most importantly at least it STUCK TO THE GOD DAMN GENRE. Mass Effect is not some james bond during a war sci-fi where you go about trying to kick ass with faceless men (Battlefield if it was in the future). Mass Effect is about working things out scientifically or sociologically so you can compromise (generally). Mass Effect is practically a more action packed more modern Star Trek (the show) but with an over arching plot. That's why it also has a grainy effect option as well, Bioware themselves said they wanted to mimic Star Trek.
Somewhere along the line EA said this (not actually but this is the gist of it), "The public don't like Star Trek and will find the other two ME games boring, so we need to make this one sell lots and make it stand alone with lots of exposition so the audience doesn't need to play the other games. This way we can change the entire genre, direction and feel of the game so it will appeal to the people who are not part of our fanbase because that will probably be more people (so they thought)"
Jacen Solo
Wow, that explains a lot in regard to how the game changed from absolutely awesome to what the hell is this.
There was also a rather weird change from the first to the other games in terms of gameplay design.
The first had a lot of exploration while the second and third basically did away with that. Couldn't help but feel as if that was a conscious decision in order to appeal more the casual crowd, changing the game from an action/roleplaying game to an action game with upgrades.
Anyway, things have really gone down hill for Bioware since the move to EA.
Actually for the one about the reaper IFF (143) it's actually not necessary to have to go through the relay. I believe it just masked the Normandy. All ships can go through but none have survived because the collectors would always detect them and destroy them
No, in the game (I think, if I remember correctly) the only reason the Normandy could go through and survive was because the reaper IFF made the commands more direct so the Normandy didn't fly into a black hole
The scene with Miranda's father is a good example of how much better the Witcher 3 team is at creating interesting villains (the Bloody Baron comes to mind).
"Unlimited Ammo!" That was in the First game, and they explained how it worked. Remove 1 sin here.
"I know this is Shepherd's Vision, but shouldn't the Protheans be speaking, you know, Prothean instead of English?" The Vision likely just altered itself to English so Shepherd could understand them, but admittedly this is just a guess.
+ShadowWolfRising Literally a few minutes later you run out of ammo after getting to another point in the opening, but until then you have totally unlimited shots, which happens no other time in the game. You have to have "heat sinks" or whatever.
+ShadowWolfRising Not only that but the unlimited ammo was ONLY in that one 2 second part.Literally 3 seconds later when you actually have to shoot a cannibal, you have limited ammo.
Jameel _
i got nothing then.
+Jameel _ (Grenadeh) It was stupid to introduce those damn heatsinks in the first place. I mean, you can literally mod every gun type in the ME1 to be able to shoot without ever overheating. But I guess this is more high tech aawsum than that boring science stuff that you don't get to throw away. And you get to hunch back behind concrete walls shouting "I AM OUT OF AMMO!!! I - I MEAN SINKS!!!" -(insert stereotypical war movie/game) -style
"They explained that in the first game" alright well first off it's not unlimited ammo, it's just a lot if we're going with in universe explanations.
Secondly they scrapped that tech during the second game and created new guns that use disposable heat sinks to cut down on wear and tear, which the hand gun used is obviously equipped with.
While I don't really care one way or another if you're going to use in universe explanations to rationalize a silly point you might want to actually consider the whole picture, heat sinks are ammo limiters and the gun shouldn't have had an unlimited fire rate like that from a realism standpoint, not so much a game standpoint.
mass effect trilogy is the best game fucking ever! with it's flaws and greatness, it gets to be the best game ever!
alex mark 1 and 2 were great, but 3 is a HUGE dissapointment.
TheZurreal i think ME3 had it's good moments, but overall it was a disappointment :(
alex mark
in my eyes ME3 had two good missions. Grunt's and Curing the Genophage.
TheZurreal to be honest, i feel like if they didn't make the DLC shore leave i don't think i would like ME3 :/
alex mark Mass Effect is a great trilogy, but of the 3, I believe 2 is definitely the best. Then 3, then 1. Although I'm not sure about 3 and 1. That order changes with the weather to me.
10:40 "Assuming Control" :D I had to laugh so hard :D
"oh you must have windows vista" "wait doesnt the joker have brittle bone disease?" IM DEAD
"The peace won't last" Um that's quite a big assumption your making to decide the fate of all life in the galaxy. We just got the Geth and Quarian to make up, not to mention got every race in the galaxy to work together....and that doesn't matter to you? Yeah there probably will be some conflict between organics and synthetics sometimes, hell we can't get along with our own species, but is that really enough to justify wiping out all life in the galaxy over and over? We can't all get along in perfect harmony all the time so F**k it!, no one gets to live? That's just...stupid.
5:07 "no such thing as a short war" I would like to point you in the direction of the Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896. Fought between Great Britain and the Zanzibar Sultanate, the entire war lasted less than 40 minutes.
You can't really compare a war to capture A SINGLE city and A SINGLE politician with no more than 5000 men participating in that war on total to a war whose goal was to entirely eliminate or enslave all advanced races and where trillions of lives were at stake.
Well, you can. It's still a war.
You're saying you can't compare a long war to a short one, he was just contradicting the video by saying short wars do exist.
Regardless of whether a galactic war is comparable to a 40 hostile takeover of one city, the point was just that short wars do exist.
i completly agree with you. wars can be pretty short
....altough the emotional outcome can be a pretty long and mentally painfull challenge to go through.
Plus the fact he says it in a later video.
this video is already six years old, god I feel old
The game needed more squadmates. They could've brought back Miranda because she literally just sits on the citadel all ME3 (Minus when she saves her sister), Grunt for sure could've been brought back, Wrex, etc.