Hope you all enjoy the video. I know it was long. Played this game and Mass Effect 2 back to back. Good times. Working on ME2 now and Andromeda will soon follow.
That cemented his spot on the council in my play through. Without anderson, the reapers would’ve killed everyone because Shepherd wouldn’t have been able to leave the citadel. Therefore, the human council member deserves to be Anderson. Keith David for the fucking win
Given Executor Pallin's intense dislike for the Spectres, I wouldn't be surprised if he told Garrus to keep working the case after "officially" closing it. He knows Garrus is a maverick cop who wouldn't just drop a case because he was told to. Pallin: Keep working it; don't get caught. I want that Spectre bastard bad, Vakarian. The Council doesn't need to know.
27:50 the Thorian WAS affecting everyone. in fact you find a guy alone in the tunnels, while fighting the geth, who is actively trying to resist the Thorians hold on him. the only reason the Thorian allows you help the colony is because you are more capable of fighting the geth than the colonists.
37:02 : Wrex never said anything about changing his mind completely about Saren. He did, however, have some serious and understandable reservations about destroying the facility and research that had an answer to save his people from the disease that was slowly driving them to extinction. I strongly, yet respectfully disagree that the conflict there was pointless.
@@holdencross5904 much as Kidd hates Ash, at least her being reserved about contact and being mean makes sense with her character. I never understood Alenko's chip.
@@holdencross5904 same. Ash only gets fine in 3 after nearly kicking the bucket and I presume the same is true for Alenko. Being clear, the only reason she lived was that Kaidan was with the nuke and she was with Kirrahe's troops. I was devastated when that call came and hesitated for a bit, until I figure "he is next to the nuke and can blow it up if need be, she is with the troops and they won't make it alone". I ended up in tears over it, because I knew someone was going to die here (I watched these before playing, but pretty much on release day) but not how. Or why.
When it comes to Garrus' investigation into Saren, the Council just did it as a formality. Something they could use to deny Saren's connection to the attack. A rushed investigation with no access to the proper files. Garrus was being set up to fail, and he knew it. The fact that he tried to circumvent it nonetheless is what makes him awesome in my book.
Even better, why would anyone even be allowed to pursue any sort of investigation into Saren? He's a Specter and, according to the Citadel's stupid-ass law, he can do whatever the fuck he likes. Bringing back an intergalactic race of genocidal war machines to destroy all of civilization should be A-okay in everybody's book. That's why we have lawmakers rather than game developers to formulate laws here on earth.
Because INVESTIGATING and TAKING ACTION are different things. It was set up, that if a Spectre goes rogue, another Spectre is sent after them. But to send the other Spectre, you have to somehow identify the first one as rogue. Basically it's like C-Sec can gather evidence, but they need a Spectre to "make an arrest" (more likely than not - kill the rogue Spectre)
Here's a interesting bit. There's a dialog option to say how would saren know about Eden prime Since it was a classified mission? Saren says he read nihlus reports only BIG PROBLEM. Reports are done after action so nihlus would not have sent a report untill AFTER the mission was completely over! But nihlus died DURING. The mission
@@raythewriter00 I'm not sure if that is a sarcastic remark or not, but regardless, what you just showcased here is the entire reason people can't take fans serious anymore when it comes to argumentation: "There's this one point in the video I heavily disagree with due to it being emotionally important to me, so to distance myself as far away from it as possible, all the other points are now invalidated as well, despite them being valid in their own rights."
@@Pr0manStream Ugh, really? I believe you're part of the reason people don't like reading comments. I mean, really it's not that serious, ol' Randall J. Weems ass dude.
@@Seraphim117 - that is the problem with these videos. When they get too not picky and even get things wrong, they and their fans just say "it's a joke/that's the joke." Edit: then I noticed your comment was from 2 years ago. :(
Job!!!! What job ffs this is a hobby at best. He needs to get off his lazy ass and get a real job where you might actually contribute something valuable to this world.
*in mind* You know I think this game has a chance to get under 300 sins *sees first sin* Never mind *sees second sin* Okay I don't even know what to think anymore
the person making this video probably forgot that the 1st ME game was made by Microsoft studios BEFORE EA bought out the franchise from microsoft, just sayin, not taking anyone sides, or the sin should have gone to microsoft for selling this series to EA in the 1st place
46:12 - The point of the Geth was explained. They are supposed to replace the Keepers. The Protheans on Ilos were able to interfere with Sovereign's signal to the Keepers to open the Mass Relay on the Citadel, throwing a wrench into to cycle. The Geth are the supposed replacement.
This. The geth troops are attempting to activate the relay. They went to Ilos for that reason as well. Shepard only made it back in time using the prothean relay into the Citadel, which Saren and geth used while Sovereign made a more... direct approach. It's even explained that the keepers were made to activate the relay the moment Sovereign (in this cycle) sends the signal, which didn't work because the protheans removed that from their programming. The geth being given the "access code" to do the thing in their stead follows.
I noticed it. I think that's the joke. Bioware games have a tendency of having a companion for the earlier levels only for them to die or not stick around.
Yo wait, the character you made in this video looks suspiciously like Jane from The Walking Dead. Who you said reminded you of your ex-girlfriend. I don't think you are over that relationship
I believe their Shepard is supposed to look like the Shepard they used in the original Mass Effect 3 video. So not Jane Shepard, probably. There's still the possibility that the first ME3 video was made when that relationship was a thing, but we don't know that for sure. But I believe this is all just continuity.
Pretty sure he didn't. Or at least we see when he's choosing his team for the rest of the Virmire mission that Wrex is still a valid option. I'd say he let Ashley kill Wrex, and then reloaded a save.
Even when I played through as a renegade, I just couldn't let that happen. I did it once just to see what would happen and felt disgusted with myself and reloaded the game afterwords.
Seth-Tytarius Starrhorn HD Lyrics Probably not the BioWare that made Mass Effect: Andromeda, though. They had a cosplayer in charge of the facial animations.
Java Monsoon You're right about that statement, but the issue is that the cosplayer hired had no prior experience with animation when they were hired to oversee the ones made for Andromeda, hence why she is referred to by what she actually professes in.
For the Garrus part at ~8:00 - basically Garrus and C-Sec started an investigation in reaction to Saren's actions, however - since he was a spectre, nobody gave enough evidence to Garrus to prove anything. Also - even if he had proven anything, he is STILL a spectre, thus above the law. However, Garrus trusts his guts and thus tags along with Shepard, since he thinks that she can bring him closer to the truth.
Hearing that music at the start, god, so many memories, my fave games ever- best story I was ever lucky to experience I didn't mind the ME3 ending either tbh, left us all thinking all the way until now in the year 2017 5 years later!! Love these games so much, never was I so attached to characters and a story in all my life aha.
Giving Tali the Geth Data will be brought up when you meet her in Mass Effect 2, and is what she presents from her pilgrimage. As a Tali fan, I kinda feel that's an important thing to do.
Nano Steve no you didn't because I'm a fan, not a fanboy. A fanboy refuses to admit faults with the game, I will admit that even the only good ME game (ME1) has issues. However, to say it's as overrated as a series that hasn't been good for over two decades and yet somehow still has fanboys after Nomura's dick is completely ignorant.
Nano Steve it's true, Mass Effect isn't overrated at all. It's one of the few modern RPGs that actually deserves the title of being an RPG. And no, I'm not a fanboy.
7:15 Actually, it's explained Hanar take special classes to let go of their problems with possessive pronouns if they are going to be working extensively with other species. Especially for a job as.... I don't know... A shopkeeper?
Alliance: "Shepard, we really need you to save the galaxy from possible utter destruction. Also, could you take out that broken VI on the other end of the galaxy that literally any regular squad could do. Also, don't forget to pick up some milk while you're at it."
Ahh GCN, as always a thoroughly enjoyable video. Your commentary is among the best in the sinning department. I will easiergly await your next video. Keep up the awesome work man you commentary always cracks me up.
It's revealed in the third game that the asari were well aware what the beacons were and how they were used. Yet, the asari councilor just plays along when the other councilors believe Shepard just had a "bad dream". And another thing, why didn't the asari councilor do that "embrace eternity" mindfuck on Shepard that Liara does several times in the game, she could have confirmed that Shepard was telling the truth.
Not necessarily. The asari knew it was a divine temple, whether the knowledge of it being a prothean beacon was lost or kept is not exactly answered (from what I caught from Liara and Javik bantering). Why the melding wasn't done? Because that's basically having s*x. As in, you can't just do it with anyone, there has to be a level of trust and regardless, the things Shepard saw aren't clear until melding with Liara like three times and not entirely. Also... 2020 should be proof of world governments being incompetent and pretending everything is fine.
No, the only thing the Councilor could have confirmed is that Shepard believes it. It says nothing about the source or the truthfulness. So in essence, it wouldn't have made the Council any wiser.
To answer your question in 8:22 I believe that because Saren was there top agent, the whole thing was basically saying we'll launch a investigation to make you, humans, happy but nothing is going to be found because of his top status. So I think it was just to make the Humans "happy" that there was a "fair trial"
Mentally, I always add another +5 sins for Benezia's lines here. This is Marina Sirtis, aka Deanna Troi from ST:NG. +3 for the "fingers on my spine, teeth at my ear" line, another +2 for the "goodnight, little wing." Those lines are just terrible imho.
What? Surely, you can't be serious. Have you never heard of deaf people, who rely on subtitles to follow the dialogue in a game? And I, as the child of a deaf adult who grew up with subtitles on everything, prefer having subtitles. They help me catch any dialogue my ears miss, and if I'm wanting to hurry through dialogue, I can read it faster than they speak it.
@@ThePreciseClimber Also, a response threee years later. Check statistics. Around 95% of Assassin's Creed: Origins players had them on. It's a Mass Effect game? Fine! What about the the distorted voices of the aliens. No subtitles equals some people can't make out what they say, thereby won't understand the plot at some point.
7:20 I honestly didn't see the problem with the elevators. In fact I liked them, because they felt real, helping me feel immersed into the ME universe, and they were GREAT at getting squadmates to talk to each other. Show me ONE time where Jack or Miranda or Samara, ever talk to Ashley, for example. My point exactly.
Seriously, teleportation doesn't exist. If you want to go from the ground up to the 20th story, you MUST take the elevator. ME1 felt the most realistic.
yes I agree ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxNIxJsEXoeZYj-SbdL2l2Ckm10e8xy75O yeah I completely agree the ME elevators aren't annoying whatsoever as matter of fact like you said it has good thing to it AKA sqaudmates talking to each other honestly either people are A pathetically impatient (very ironic that there playing this game if that's the case) or B just idiotically making up reasons to hate ME1
And it's also ironic considering we now have Cyberpunk 2077 disguising it's loading screens with elevators and no one complaining about them and everyone also shitting on Starfield for it's endless loading screens. In other words, ME1 was ahead was it's time in that regard
video game cliche #21 seems unfair - of course something you're searching for is in the last place you look, that's because YOU FIND IT in the last place you look.
I think it's funny, with RPG fans constantly harping on the importance of immersion and games not breaking it, that so many people complain about ME's desire to mask loading screens with elevators. Especially as how they aren't even static. The creators went the extra mile and filled them with crew member banter and news reports. Regardless of whether they were disguised or not, you'd still have to deal with them so why does everyone hate Bioware for trying to uphold immersion in an in-universe way during these otherwise "fade to black with a static picture" moments? I don't understand the anger and backlash this caused in the slightest.
Dog, me we had news net in those elevators; and event update on what shepherds choices. Me2 & Me3 broke that immersion with with actual loading screens. Masking loading times is Witcher 3, God of War (ps4), Spider-Man (PS4) need I go on? Dawg you sound dumb. P.S. stil lwas more useful then the Me3 slide show at end game which was loading the credits.
@@AudioVisualComicsClub ??? We're saying the same thing. Maybe I wasn't being clear enough or maybe you simply misunderstood what I wrote. I LIKE the elevator scenes in ME1. I DON'T LIKE the static screens in ME 2 and 3. What I was trying to say is that gamers are CONSTANTLY saying they they want more immersion in games yet they complained when Bioware gave them that in ME1. It's a case of people not knowing what they want. So, no "dawg", I wasn't sounding "dumb". I knew exactly what I was saying.
Not that it matters, not that you're going to see this comment and hopefully you won't ever be in this position but the reliability of any bomb depends, in large part, to the person handling and arming it. I know a few people who've damn near been been blown to pieces because of a fuck up with an explosive. I've also experienced first hand an exlosive not going off because it wasn't armed correctly. On one of those occassions, had it been armed correctly I wouldn't be sitting here writing this pedantic ass comment and nitpicking a videogame nitpicking video by one of my favorite youtubers. 😂
One sin that you missed that I have chuckling about for 10 years. The Council "disbars" Saren. Disbarment means to remove from the Association of Barristers. So the council forbids Saren from practicing law. The "bar" in "disbarment" is very different from barring, meaning blocking, like a bar across a doorway.
this has got to be much harder than the movies... i mean even some of the shortest video games are still hours longer than most movies... RPGs often take days on average... i mean i understand the "watch video with a notepad" but you have far more paitence than i do for these videos. Salute.
One of the only channels when a notification comes up I stop everything, get popcorn and drinks and enjoy the ride. Seriously, GCN you are by far the best gamingsins channel on here(IMO). Keep up the amazing work and hope to see ME 2, Andromeda and much more content from your channel.
While I loved this, some of the insults towards characters like Ashley Williams was kind harsh. Though, I actually liked all the crew of the Normandy, so I might be a minority.
I liked everybody *but* Ashley, didn't think she was interesting, and that she was unlikable, her most notable feature as I rememebr was that she was a space-racist
@Dante Strife Yes, because being space-racist is the worst thing you could be in Mass Effect. To that end, I'll say this: being racist is not inherently a bad thing, especially in the context of Mass Effect and for Ashley's backstory. Sometimes, in the case of Ashley's backstory and ESPECIALLY between the Krogan and everyone else, it makes quite a bit of logical and reasonable sense.
There are quite a few instances of racism by others in the series, and even this game. I think Garrus calls someone a quarian bastard at some point and also says how he expected wrex to be different based on how all krogan act. Those are just two examples that come to mind.
Now personally, I think the biggest sin is the fact that the trilogy becomes kind of pointless the moment you learn that the only relay into Dark space is located on the citadel and nobody is smart enough to make the connection of destroy citadel + relay = reapers forever trapped in dark space, or at the very least until it's no longer our problem...
ok so destroying the citadel is both idiotically stupid and douchy as heII IN EVERY SINGLE WAY because A if you destroyed the citadel you would be destroying a very useful thing the citadel is clearly a very efficient colony space station B does it matter? CAUSE IT DOESN'T the protheans figured out that problem matter anyway and more importantly it didn't matter anyway because sovereign was stopped C again it doesn't matter anyway because even without mass relays including the citadel the reapers can travel throughout the galaxy all the mass relays do is make it more efficient and HEII this very thing I'm talking about happens im mass effect 3 (btw don't give me that buIIshit about "why didn't they just travel to the milky way without using the citadel?" work F%cking smarter not harder) D technically it's obviously worthless BECAUSE IT'S A GOD DAM VIDEO GAME * cough * I mean mass effect 3 made worthless anyway because of the crucible and E as bonus talk about an honorless douchbag destroying the citadel not only wasting resources BUTANDALSO just a HUGE dick move to delaying the inevitable is probably the most honorless andor douchy thing you could do
Sin 79: The way Garrus states it, he was ready and willing to kill the hostages if it meant killing the bioterrorist in his loyalty mission. Whilst he might have had a stigma around him being a maverick cop who is willing to do whatever it takes to stop a criminal, he would have been seen as a terrorist for blowing a seemingly innocent vessel out of the sky with no prior warning.
48:36 nope, the neutral options means one is a bigger priority, while the others just disregard entirely the council safety. It's the difference between "we'll do this if we have time" and "nope, not doing this, screw you" Also locking the relays is something only the reapers can do when they seize the citadel. I believe the Vi on Ilos explains it
GCN my comment was aimed at the people who think ME2 is the greatest bestest Mass Effectest game ever, not you. The only think I really disagree with you on is the Mako, as I feel like with many other flaws with ME1, all was needed was _refinement,_ not outright removal.
Sin 147 (45m44s) is actually very much not a plot hole and is, in fact, *the* catalyst for the game's events, setting everything in motion *and* gets explained in the very same conversation with the Virgil VI. The VI explains that the best the Protheans could manage (once their extinction was assured) was to block future signals sent from the Reapers to the Keepers to prompt them to activate the relay. This plot point is absolutely crucial since it clarifies that a) the Citadel is actually a relay of Reaper design and b) the Keepers are a Reaper-modified race left behind to stop future races tampering with the Citadel *and* importantly, to activate the relay when the signal is sent. The Protheans blocking this signal is the most important point and the reason that Shepard's cycle is different. The events leading up to this game therefore are that Sovereign awakes, decides that it's time for the cycle to start, sends the "Go" signal to the Keepers, but crucially, nothing happens. Thus, he recruits and indoctrinates Saren, an organic with unrestricted access to the Citadel to find out what's wrong. They discover the Prothean tampering and so (and this is a plot hole) Saren somehow realises that the Prothean Beacon luckily unearthed on Eden Prime holds the answers and attacks with a squad of Geth, whose appearance prompts an Alliance response, thus beginning this game. Then ME2: Arrival happened and completely retconned this entire game's story, then ME3 happened and retconned both ME1 and ME2: Arrival by saying the Reapers didn't even need the relay, they could have made the journey in 6 months, by themselves, no relay needed. Then Andromeda happened and everyone suddenly has FTL and retconned the need for for mass relays.
From escaping reapers normally in ME3 not requiring relays, means ships regularly have FTL. Reapers themselves took years to reach the galaxy at FTL (thus not retconning ME1).
I love your channel, but I'm not sure I can handle this video. Everytime I hear the music and see those game moments again, I'm thinking about summer of 08, and how everything went so wrong in my life with years. Same story with the first Witcher game.
46:03 You need to activate the relay thats on the planet that I cant remember the name of but its the one on the last mission. The Geth were used as an army for Saren so he can achieve his mission to find that relay that links to the Citadel. The relay lmwas pushed away into space from the the star supernova where it made its way to the random planet. The reason for Eden Prime was to get the Prothean becon?
23:41 "Best reporters base their investigation on facts and evidence, not rumors." Well GCN, you DO know that reporters who base their investigation on facts and evidence instead of rumors are at best extinct since the 30's and at worst never even existed in the first place. And seeing how journalism gets worse everyday, what makes you believe there's going to be serious reporters anywhere in the future? I find this game's portraying reporters pretty accurately...
A thing i never understood: why Anderson mention Shepard's vision during Saren's "Trial"? And why Saren try to defend himself from it? The vision don't have anything to do with Saren at that point (they just think he control the Geth the vision don't prove anything about that, even if the council believed Shepard that would have not incriminated Saren in any way) PS: Renegade Shepard is best Shepard
10:05 What's funny is that I didn't know that Shepard HIMSELF could actually be the first person to say that iconic line in the trilogy until my, I dunno, 3rd or 4th playthrough.
*ROUND OF APPLAUSE* This was so remarkably well detailed, well executed, enlightening, informative, fair, and comedic. Your efforts in sinning one of my favorite games of all time is appreciated. *cough cough* Do Mass Effect 2 next *cough cough* Side note: Please do not let my request null my previous opinion as some sort of butt-kissing. I watched a 51 minute video of you tearing the game apart and somehow still loved it. The praise is sincere.
Hope you all enjoy the video. I know it was long. Played this game and Mass Effect 2 back to back. Good times. Working on ME2 now and Andromeda will soon follow.
what about ME3?
Already made.
Ata Misirli It was already done.
GCN okay
Awesome. By the way, no sin off for Anderson punching out Udina? Tut tut...
I love how in this game if your persuasion is high enough, you can convince Saren to kill himself at the end and only deal with his possessed husk.
Dragonlord247 Why is that? I only done the suicide persuading to him.
All the playthroughs I've made and I didn't know this. I thought he kills himself anyway and the Husk is the actual fight everytime.
Forever Aloner I did that first go. I didn’t even know there was a first fight 😂
Sad to know he wasn't too bad of a guy till soverin ballsed it up
LMFAO 4 YEARS OF PLAYING THIS AND I NEVER EVEN KNEW
44:08 Wait, no sins off for Anderson punching Udina in the face? Dude come on, everybody was like "Hell yeah!" when he did.
That cemented his spot on the council in my play through. Without anderson, the reapers would’ve killed everyone because Shepherd wouldn’t have been able to leave the citadel. Therefore, the human council member deserves to be Anderson. Keith David for the fucking win
And because of this, very few people see the other cutscene with C-sec security
That opening sound of Mass Effect, so relaxing.
Galaxy Map
Iconic
Its so nostalgic
They just stole deus ex music... damn ShitWare
Amen
Uh... You should actually be taking sins off every time Wrex speaks. That guy's awesome.
"If I die in here, I'll kill him."
This is why Wrex is my favorite ME1 squadmate. That line, right there.
Garrus did the investigation on Saren on his own with no backing from C sec. He is the dirty harry of mass effect.
Michael Grayson Can't we assume he did both?
+A Ahmou the solo investigation is after the fact that Saren was exonerated of his crimes
Best written character in the entire series
On his own? I'm pretty sure the shadow broker gave him free information...and Tali had the proof he needed. Didn't do anything "by himself".
Given Executor Pallin's intense dislike for the Spectres, I wouldn't be surprised if he told Garrus to keep working the case after "officially" closing it. He knows Garrus is a maverick cop who wouldn't just drop a case because he was told to.
Pallin: Keep working it; don't get caught. I want that Spectre bastard bad, Vakarian. The Council doesn't need to know.
27:50 the Thorian WAS affecting everyone. in fact you find a guy alone in the tunnels, while fighting the geth, who is actively trying to resist the Thorians hold on him. the only reason the Thorian allows you help the colony is because you are more capable of fighting the geth than the colonists.
Thank you sir. I was looking for this comment
37:02 : Wrex never said anything about changing his mind completely about Saren. He did, however, have some serious and understandable reservations about destroying the facility and research that had an answer to save his people from the disease that was slowly driving them to extinction. I strongly, yet respectfully disagree that the conflict there was pointless.
Jordan D Same! It was actually a very strong (and quite emotional) character moment for Wrex. I always defend him, of course.
@@DitisEmile I hate Ashley and Alenko seeing as they are the only two that seem to be distrustful of you.
@@holdencross5904 much as Kidd hates Ash, at least her being reserved about contact and being mean makes sense with her character.
I never understood Alenko's chip.
@@shis1988 but all cause I prefer literally any other squad mates
@@holdencross5904 same. Ash only gets fine in 3 after nearly kicking the bucket and I presume the same is true for Alenko.
Being clear, the only reason she lived was that Kaidan was with the nuke and she was with Kirrahe's troops. I was devastated when that call came and hesitated for a bit, until I figure "he is next to the nuke and can blow it up if need be, she is with the troops and they won't make it alone".
I ended up in tears over it, because I knew someone was going to die here (I watched these before playing, but pretty much on release day) but not how. Or why.
When it comes to Garrus' investigation into Saren, the Council just did it as a formality. Something they could use to deny Saren's connection to the attack. A rushed investigation with no access to the proper files. Garrus was being set up to fail, and he knew it. The fact that he tried to circumvent it nonetheless is what makes him awesome in my book.
Even better, why would anyone even be allowed to pursue any sort of investigation into Saren? He's a Specter and, according to the Citadel's stupid-ass law, he can do whatever the fuck he likes. Bringing back an intergalactic race of genocidal war machines to destroy all of civilization should be A-okay in everybody's book.
That's why we have lawmakers rather than game developers to formulate laws here on earth.
Because INVESTIGATING and TAKING ACTION are different things. It was set up, that if a Spectre goes rogue, another Spectre is sent after them. But to send the other Spectre, you have to somehow identify the first one as rogue.
Basically it's like C-Sec can gather evidence, but they need a Spectre to "make an arrest" (more likely than not - kill the rogue Spectre)
C-Sec and the Spectres both answer to the Council. As stated, the "investigation" was an exercise. It was never going to go anywhere.
Here's a interesting bit. There's a dialog option to say how would saren know about Eden prime
Since it was a classified mission?
Saren says he read nihlus reports only BIG PROBLEM. Reports are done after action so nihlus would not have sent a report untill AFTER the mission was completely over! But nihlus died DURING. The mission
Garrus is awesome
"Reckless soldier getting killed cliche?" How could you not see the Leroy Jenkins reference? I thought it was fucking genius.
Probably because it wasn't funny.
Leeroy Jenkins is the funniest thing there ever was
@@ryanmcwilliams8784LEROYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY JEEEEENNNNNKINNNNNNNSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ryanmcwilliams8784 Even back then was it lame as hell
Did...did you just SIN Kirrahe's speech?
How dare you?!
Yes he did and for that point alone this entire video is irrelevant
@@raythewriter00 I'm not sure if that is a sarcastic remark or not, but regardless, what you just showcased here is the entire reason people can't take fans serious anymore when it comes to argumentation:
"There's this one point in the video I heavily disagree with due to it being emotionally important to me, so to distance myself as far away from it as possible, all the other points are now invalidated as well, despite them being valid in their own rights."
@@Pr0manStream Ugh, really? I believe you're part of the reason people don't like reading comments. I mean, really it's not that serious, ol' Randall J. Weems ass dude.
RaytheWriter lmao
I agree. Best video game motivational speech ever.
One sin for Gamingsins for lack of knowledge of the honoring for Corporal Richard Leeroy JENKINS!
F this comment lol
Giving Tali the info gives you the 'I'll prove I'm Shepard' option when you re-encounter Tali in Mass Effect 2.
Kharn The Betrayer Which is pointless, considering she's going to trust you anyway...
"considering she's going to trust you anyway..."
Good game design.... just whyyy :(
An hour? Damn dude we don't deserve someone as good as you.
Your dedicated to the job is insane.
many of his sins are basically nitpicking and nothing to do with actual problems with the game
Aaron Page that’s the joke
@@Seraphim117 - that is the problem with these videos. When they get too not picky and even get things wrong, they and their fans just say "it's a joke/that's the joke."
Edit: then I noticed your comment was from 2 years ago. :(
Job!!!! What job ffs this is a hobby at best. He needs to get off his lazy ass and get a real job where you might actually contribute something valuable to this world.
@@spud8284
Stop hating on him making easy money.
*in mind*
You know I think this game has a chance to get under 300 sins
*sees first sin*
Never mind
*sees second sin*
Okay I don't even know what to think anymore
we need more sins for the EA sin, but i guess we would have to buy the diamond edition of this video
it was published by microsoft studios NOT ea
NuttiesBC then why does it say EA at the beginning dumbass?
John Gough wow let's not be aggressive now
the person making this video probably forgot that the 1st ME game was made by Microsoft studios BEFORE EA bought out the franchise from microsoft, just sayin, not taking anyone sides, or the sin should have gone to microsoft for selling this series to EA in the 1st place
@Joseph Carmody
Yeah, pretty much.
46:12 - The point of the Geth was explained. They are supposed to replace the Keepers. The Protheans on Ilos were able to interfere with Sovereign's signal to the Keepers to open the Mass Relay on the Citadel, throwing a wrench into to cycle. The Geth are the supposed replacement.
This.
The geth troops are attempting to activate the relay. They went to Ilos for that reason as well. Shepard only made it back in time using the prothean relay into the Citadel, which Saren and geth used while Sovereign made a more... direct approach.
It's even explained that the keepers were made to activate the relay the moment Sovereign (in this cycle) sends the signal, which didn't work because the protheans removed that from their programming. The geth being given the "access code" to do the thing in their stead follows.
I recently figured this out and I'm surprised no one else acknowledges Jenkins being the Leroy Jenkins meme
He rushes instantly into battle screaming and his actual last name is literally Jenkins
I noticed it. I think that's the joke. Bioware games have a tendency of having a companion for the earlier levels only for them to die or not stick around.
@@cameronhoward7846 There is no sound in that cutscene until Jenkins is shot.
Yo wait, the character you made in this video looks suspiciously like Jane from The Walking Dead. Who you said reminded you of your ex-girlfriend. I don't think you are over that relationship
You're a true fan *ding*
FantasticFatality36 it was the personality of the two, short haired women aren't exactly unicorns now
Nice observation.
Looks like someone was a Jane lover all along...
My male Shepards always turn out to look Chinese and I don't know why
I believe their Shepard is supposed to look like the Shepard they used in the original Mass Effect 3 video. So not Jane Shepard, probably. There's still the possibility that the first ME3 video was made when that relationship was a thing, but we don't know that for sure. But I believe this is all just continuity.
YOU LET WREX DIE?
HOW COULD YOU?
Not in his actual playthrough. Wrex is still selectable...
Pretty sure he didn't. Or at least we see when he's choosing his team for the rest of the Virmire mission that Wrex is still a valid option. I'd say he let Ashley kill Wrex, and then reloaded a save.
he didnt lol
How could you? Lol why was that a question
Even when I played through as a renegade, I just couldn't let that happen. I did it once just to see what would happen and felt disgusted with myself and reloaded the game afterwords.
Wait.. you actually choose your character's backstory? *SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!*
This game shall be mine!
Seth-Tytarius Starrhorn HD Lyrics only in 2 games, ME1 and DA:O
Seth-Tytarius Starrhorn HD Lyrics Probably not the BioWare that made Mass Effect: Andromeda, though. They had a cosplayer in charge of the facial animations.
Java Monsoon You're right about that statement, but the issue is that the cosplayer hired had no prior experience with animation when they were hired to oversee the ones made for Andromeda, hence why she is referred to by what she actually professes in.
Java Monsoon True, but it's very unlikely for someone to be a cosplayer and an animator in video games, both effectively, in their spare time.
For the Garrus part at ~8:00 - basically Garrus and C-Sec started an investigation in reaction to Saren's actions, however - since he was a spectre, nobody gave enough evidence to Garrus to prove anything. Also - even if he had proven anything, he is STILL a spectre, thus above the law. However, Garrus trusts his guts and thus tags along with Shepard, since he thinks that she can bring him closer to the truth.
Hearing that music at the start, god, so many memories, my fave games ever- best story I was ever lucky to experience I didn't mind the ME3 ending either tbh, left us all thinking all the way until now in the year 2017 5 years later!!
Love these games so much, never was I so attached to characters and a story in all my life aha.
Giving Tali the Geth Data will be brought up when you meet her in Mass Effect 2, and is what she presents from her pilgrimage. As a Tali fan, I kinda feel that's an important thing to do.
Sadly it doesn't effect anything game plays out the same anyway. It's nice that it was remembered though
yea but the data dont matter anyways because P R I O R I T Y : R A N N O C H
ME1 has the best story, ME2 has the best characters and ME3 has the best gameplay
500 sins for ea, FUCK sake
Nano Steve fuck off
Nano Steve no you didn't because I'm a fan, not a fanboy. A fanboy refuses to admit faults with the game, I will admit that even the only good ME game (ME1) has issues. However, to say it's as overrated as a series that hasn't been good for over two decades and yet somehow still has fanboys after Nomura's dick is completely ignorant.
Nano Steve can't tell if you're being serious or not
Yeah I know right? It should be 1000 sins for those greedy cock suckers.
Nano Steve it's true, Mass Effect isn't overrated at all. It's one of the few modern RPGs that actually deserves the title of being an RPG.
And no, I'm not a fanboy.
7:15 Actually, it's explained Hanar take special classes to let go of their problems with possessive pronouns if they are going to be working extensively with other species. Especially for a job as.... I don't know... A shopkeeper?
Yes but it still stands. They can only know their face name. Their soul name is known only to close people or drell who take part in the compact.
500 sins right off the bat
EA
They deserve it *clap clap, clap clap clap*
Too bad EA didn't co-develop the first game; that was Microsoft. Sin the right people their credit.
@@michaelmorton5698 nope
@@michaelmorton5698 EA deserve sins regardless.
"Obvious setup for a squel is obvious." Sadly the sequel didn't see it that way and made its story ultimately pointless.
That ending song, though. One of the best in the Mass Effect series
Alliance: "Shepard, we really need you to save the galaxy from possible utter destruction. Also, could you take out that broken VI on the other end of the galaxy that literally any regular squad could do. Also, don't forget to pick up some milk while you're at it."
Why was “blast your virtual ass into actual dust” a sin? That line is iconic
Ahh GCN, as always a thoroughly enjoyable video. Your commentary is among the best in the sinning department. I will easiergly await your next video. Keep up the awesome work man you commentary always cracks me up.
The only GamingSins channel I will ever sub. 10/10
DiDiLee even if its the same genre (gaming sins) looking at different channels is ok but still come to this one
DiDiLee even if its the same genre (gaming sins) looking at different channels is ok but still come to this one
DiDiLee Dartigan is awesome aswell
DiDiLee and the only one that sins the gameplay
RushingDolphin NO THEY ARE BOTH AWESOME 😍
quarians hitchhike on their pilgrimages, Tali did not leave a ship she owned on the Citadel.
Never clicked on a notification so fast
Tywin Lannister same here... the video wasn't started yet and I was giving “like”
same
Anderson calling out the frame was a direct callout to blade runner where deckard searched through a photo for one frame
It's revealed in the third game that the asari were well aware what the beacons were and how they were used. Yet, the asari councilor just plays along when the other councilors believe Shepard just had a "bad dream". And another thing, why didn't the asari councilor do that "embrace eternity" mindfuck on Shepard that Liara does several times in the game, she could have confirmed that Shepard was telling the truth.
Not necessarily. The asari knew it was a divine temple, whether the knowledge of it being a prothean beacon was lost or kept is not exactly answered (from what I caught from Liara and Javik bantering).
Why the melding wasn't done? Because that's basically having s*x. As in, you can't just do it with anyone, there has to be a level of trust and regardless, the things Shepard saw aren't clear until melding with Liara like three times and not entirely.
Also... 2020 should be proof of world governments being incompetent and pretending everything is fine.
Because the asari are an annoyance with limited utility
No, the only thing the Councilor could have confirmed is that Shepard believes it. It says nothing about the source or the truthfulness. So in essence, it wouldn't have made the Council any wiser.
To answer your question in 8:22 I believe that because Saren was there top agent, the whole thing was basically saying we'll launch a investigation to make you, humans, happy but nothing is going to be found because of his top status. So I think it was just to make the Humans "happy" that there was a "fair trial"
Interesting that Ashley would try to save male Shepard in ME1, but Kaidan would stop her.
Yea so that sin with Ashley not letting Kaidan save Shepard shouldn't exist since Kaidan does the same to Ashley if it's male Shepard.
Mentally, I always add another +5 sins for Benezia's lines here. This is Marina Sirtis, aka Deanna Troi from ST:NG. +3 for the "fingers on my spine, teeth at my ear" line, another +2 for the "goodnight, little wing." Those lines are just terrible imho.
I know!!
GamingSins sin: having subtitles for the narrator's voice but not for the in-game voices.
Subtitles are a failure of game design.
What? Surely, you can't be serious. Have you never heard of deaf people, who rely on subtitles to follow the dialogue in a game? And I, as the child of a deaf adult who grew up with subtitles on everything, prefer having subtitles. They help me catch any dialogue my ears miss, and if I'm wanting to hurry through dialogue, I can read it faster than they speak it.
@@ThePreciseClimber Also, a response threee years later.
Check statistics. Around 95% of Assassin's Creed: Origins players had them on. It's a Mass Effect game? Fine! What about the the distorted voices of the aliens. No subtitles equals some people can't make out what they say, thereby won't understand the plot at some point.
@@ThePreciseClimber no subtitles are amazing
7:20 I honestly didn't see the problem with the elevators. In fact I liked them, because they felt real, helping me feel immersed into the ME universe, and they were GREAT at getting squadmates to talk to each other. Show me ONE time where Jack or Miranda or Samara, ever talk to Ashley, for example. My point exactly.
Seriously, teleportation doesn't exist. If you want to go from the ground up to the 20th story, you MUST take the elevator. ME1 felt the most realistic.
yes I agree ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxNIxJsEXoeZYj-SbdL2l2Ckm10e8xy75O
yeah I completely agree the ME elevators aren't annoying whatsoever as matter of fact like you said it has good thing to it AKA sqaudmates talking to each other honestly either people are A pathetically impatient (very ironic that there playing this game if that's the case) or B just idiotically making up reasons to hate ME1
And it's also ironic considering we now have Cyberpunk 2077 disguising it's loading screens with elevators and no one complaining about them and everyone also shitting on Starfield for it's endless loading screens. In other words, ME1 was ahead was it's time in that regard
21:58 ACTUALLY, that one counts as a point (hidden point system) towards peace in the Geth/Quarian War.
deducting a point for "It's a big stupid jellyfish" was the highlight of this video
Still waiting for the Dead Space series
video game cliche #21 seems unfair - of course something you're searching for is in the last place you look, that's because YOU FIND IT in the last place you look.
46:02 Is not a sin. Saren couldn't just walk into Presidium and get access to the Citadel without interruption from C-Sec.
I think it's funny, with RPG fans constantly harping on the importance of immersion and games not breaking it, that so many people complain about ME's desire to mask loading screens with elevators. Especially as how they aren't even static. The creators went the extra mile and filled them with crew member banter and news reports. Regardless of whether they were disguised or not, you'd still have to deal with them so why does everyone hate Bioware for trying to uphold immersion in an in-universe way during these otherwise "fade to black with a static picture" moments?
I don't understand the anger and backlash this caused in the slightest.
Dog, me we had news net in those elevators; and event update on what shepherds choices. Me2 & Me3 broke that immersion with with actual loading screens. Masking loading times is Witcher 3, God of War (ps4), Spider-Man (PS4) need I go on? Dawg you sound dumb. P.S. stil lwas more useful then the Me3 slide show at end game which was loading the credits.
@@AudioVisualComicsClub ??? We're saying the same thing.
Maybe I wasn't being clear enough or maybe you simply misunderstood what I wrote. I LIKE the elevator scenes in ME1. I DON'T LIKE the static screens in ME 2 and 3.
What I was trying to say is that gamers are CONSTANTLY saying they they want more immersion in games yet they complained when Bioware gave them that in ME1. It's a case of people not knowing what they want.
So, no "dawg", I wasn't sounding "dumb". I knew exactly what I was saying.
"The last place you search has the item you're looking for." Yes... That's how that works.
Not that it matters, not that you're going to see this comment and hopefully you won't ever be in this position but the reliability of any bomb depends, in large part, to the person handling and arming it. I know a few people who've damn near been been blown to pieces because of a fuck up with an explosive. I've also experienced first hand an exlosive not going off because it wasn't armed correctly. On one of those occassions, had it been armed correctly I wouldn't be sitting here writing this pedantic ass comment and nitpicking a videogame nitpicking video by one of my favorite youtubers. 😂
M. Victor Howard I fucking love this comment, and thank you for your service sir.
Sin 39: it's just a facade, to make it seem like the Council "did" something about Saren
One sin that you missed that I have chuckling about for 10 years. The Council "disbars" Saren. Disbarment means to remove from the Association of Barristers. So the council forbids Saren from practicing law. The "bar" in "disbarment" is very different from barring, meaning blocking, like a bar across a doorway.
3:05 I see someone's a fan of Vlad the Impaler. XD
I call the reapers giant metal headlice 🤣🤣🤣
this has got to be much harder than the movies... i mean even some of the shortest video games are still hours longer than most movies...
RPGs often take days on average... i mean i understand the "watch video with a notepad" but you have far more paitence than i do for these videos.
Salute.
The Krogan that says, "Tell me what I want or I will blast your virtual ass into actual dust." Is the funniest thing in all of Mass Effect.
"If l die in here, l'll kill him"
BEST quote in the entire trilogy
One of the only channels when a notification comes up I stop everything, get popcorn and drinks and enjoy the ride. Seriously, GCN you are by far the best gamingsins channel on here(IMO). Keep up the amazing work and hope to see ME 2, Andromeda and much more content from your channel.
I'm so happy you made another video cause I subscribed not too long ago
same.
Much appreciated.
'The game was missing the "I don't want a racist murderous cunt on my team" option.' I laughed for what felt like 10 minutes when I heard that.
While I loved this, some of the insults towards characters like Ashley Williams was kind harsh. Though, I actually liked all the crew of the Normandy, so I might be a minority.
I liked everybody *but* Ashley, didn't think she was interesting, and that she was unlikable, her most notable feature as I rememebr was that she was a space-racist
@Dante Strife
Yes, because being space-racist is the worst thing you could be in Mass Effect. To that end, I'll say this: being racist is not inherently a bad thing, especially in the context of Mass Effect and for Ashley's backstory. Sometimes, in the case of Ashley's backstory and ESPECIALLY between the Krogan and everyone else, it makes quite a bit of logical and reasonable sense.
Dante Strife she's better than Kaiden. I always killed off Kaiden because he's terrible at combat and Ashley isn't racist she doesn't trust Aliens.
There are quite a few instances of racism by others in the series, and even this game. I think Garrus calls someone a quarian bastard at some point and also says how he expected wrex to be different based on how all krogan act. Those are just two examples that come to mind.
Yep, sexualized insults have nothing to do with the character's flaws.
Now personally, I think the biggest sin is the fact that the trilogy becomes kind of pointless the moment you learn that the only relay into Dark space is located on the citadel and nobody is smart enough to make the connection of destroy citadel + relay = reapers forever trapped in dark space, or at the very least until it's no longer our problem...
ok so destroying the citadel is both idiotically stupid and douchy as heII IN EVERY SINGLE WAY because A if you destroyed the citadel you would be destroying a very useful thing the citadel is clearly a very efficient colony space station B does it matter? CAUSE IT DOESN'T the protheans figured out that problem matter anyway and more importantly it didn't matter anyway because sovereign was stopped C again it doesn't matter anyway because even without mass relays including the citadel the reapers can travel throughout the galaxy all the mass relays do is make it more efficient and HEII this very thing I'm talking about happens im mass effect 3 (btw don't give me that buIIshit about "why didn't they just travel to the milky way without using the citadel?" work F%cking smarter not harder) D technically it's obviously worthless BECAUSE IT'S A GOD DAM VIDEO GAME * cough * I mean mass effect 3 made worthless anyway because of the crucible and E as bonus talk about an honorless douchbag destroying the citadel not only wasting resources BUTANDALSO just a HUGE dick move to delaying the inevitable is probably the most honorless andor douchy thing you could do
Since you've done the Mass Effect, do you think you could do the Dragon Age series?
Too many dialogue options and possible outcomes. The whinging afterward would be unbearable.
28:45 I was wondering myself why she was wearing armor. One would figure that the clone would be wearing nothing at all.
Finally. I was waiting for you to sin this game
3:11 I can’t believe I missed that reference
I expected to hear Toto after the 'Hold The Line' part! xD
RockBandAddict666 exactly
Sin 79:
The way Garrus states it, he was ready and willing to kill the hostages if it meant killing the bioterrorist in his loyalty mission. Whilst he might have had a stigma around him being a maverick cop who is willing to do whatever it takes to stop a criminal, he would have been seen as a terrorist for blowing a seemingly innocent vessel out of the sky with no prior warning.
23:08 The moment I heard Armstrong, I thought about FMA's Armstrong just wrecking Geths.
I can very easily see Armstrong busting down a door and trashing Geth
48:36
nope, the neutral options means one is a bigger priority, while the others just disregard entirely the council safety.
It's the difference between "we'll do this if we have time" and "nope, not doing this, screw you"
Also locking the relays is something only the reapers can do when they seize the citadel. I believe the Vi on Ilos explains it
yeah I'll admit the mako isn't perfect but it can actually take a hit unlike the cardboard box the hammer head.
This gaming sins is full of all kinds of Gaming Sins Sins. Fine points of the story apparantly went right over your head.
i like how you remove sins by disconnect the council XD.
"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance. Incapable of understanding".
Such a fucking incredible line!
Despite all the flaws, this game was the height of the series; even better than ME2 and ME3
Fight me.
Wasn't gonna disagree with you in the first place.
GCN my comment was aimed at the people who think ME2 is the greatest bestest Mass Effectest game ever, not you. The only think I really disagree with you on is the Mako, as I feel like with many other flaws with ME1, all was needed was _refinement,_ not outright removal.
IMO this was the pinnacle of Mass Effect storytelling, where ME2 topped gameplay.
The only thing that makes ME 2 better is the fact you were able to romance Garrus IMO. Plus they got rid of the Mako. Otherwise I agree with you.
nah, they've polished gameplay in ME3,, ME2's gameplay feels a little too plebby for the game standards
25:50 actually when I went there straight away, he had the data, so it is an specific one not the last one.
Is it bad that this game has been out for years, yet I have not seen actual gameplay for it?
I don't mean just for this game, I mean for all the games.
No wonder I haven't seen any gameplay, but just these conversations, and sex.
I actually have no interest.
Panther Same
I only knew about mass effect because of gamerpoop.
Please,i very very love your video,so can u do it more often,u're the only gaming sins channel that i like
Wow, you really have done a good job on this one!
Yo your mass effect trilogy gaming sins videos are funny af
1 sin removed you CAN get the Mako through that rocky area its just really hard!
I AM KROGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was actually going to post the same comment about how you can squeeze through the crack but decided meh fuck it.
Is it bad that I wanted all of your dialogue for sin 125 at 40:12 to be Shepard's word-for-word response?
Sin 147 (45m44s) is actually very much not a plot hole and is, in fact, *the* catalyst for the game's events, setting everything in motion *and* gets explained in the very same conversation with the Virgil VI.
The VI explains that the best the Protheans could manage (once their extinction was assured) was to block future signals sent from the Reapers to the Keepers to prompt them to activate the relay. This plot point is absolutely crucial since it clarifies that a) the Citadel is actually a relay of Reaper design and b) the Keepers are a Reaper-modified race left behind to stop future races tampering with the Citadel *and* importantly, to activate the relay when the signal is sent. The Protheans blocking this signal is the most important point and the reason that Shepard's cycle is different.
The events leading up to this game therefore are that Sovereign awakes, decides that it's time for the cycle to start, sends the "Go" signal to the Keepers, but crucially, nothing happens. Thus, he recruits and indoctrinates Saren, an organic with unrestricted access to the Citadel to find out what's wrong. They discover the Prothean tampering and so (and this is a plot hole) Saren somehow realises that the Prothean Beacon luckily unearthed on Eden Prime holds the answers and attacks with a squad of Geth, whose appearance prompts an Alliance response, thus beginning this game.
Then ME2: Arrival happened and completely retconned this entire game's story, then ME3 happened and retconned both ME1 and ME2: Arrival by saying the Reapers didn't even need the relay, they could have made the journey in 6 months, by themselves, no relay needed. Then Andromeda happened and everyone suddenly has FTL and retconned the need for for mass relays.
From escaping reapers normally in ME3 not requiring relays, means ships regularly have FTL. Reapers themselves took years to reach the galaxy at FTL (thus not retconning ME1).
@@shis1988 Which did absolutely nothing for us. It ultimately feels completely pointless.
I love your channel, but I'm not sure I can handle this video. Everytime I hear the music and see those game moments again, I'm thinking about summer of 08, and how everything went so wrong in my life with years. Same story with the first Witcher game.
Surprised he didn't remove a sin for Garrus being ultimate space bro.
You didn't mention how Captain Anderson was voiced by Keith David, aka the Arbiter.
46:03 You need to activate the relay thats on the planet that I cant remember the name of but its the one on the last mission. The Geth were used as an army for Saren so he can achieve his mission to find that relay that links to the Citadel. The relay lmwas pushed away into space from the the star supernova where it made its way to the random planet. The reason for Eden Prime was to get the Prothean becon?
23:41 "Best reporters base their investigation on facts and evidence, not rumors."
Well GCN, you DO know that reporters who base their investigation on facts and evidence instead of rumors are at best extinct since the 30's and at worst never even existed in the first place. And seeing how journalism gets worse everyday, what makes you believe there's going to be serious reporters anywhere in the future? I find this game's portraying reporters pretty accurately...
A thing i never understood: why Anderson mention Shepard's vision during Saren's "Trial"? And why Saren try to defend himself from it? The vision don't have anything to do with Saren at that point (they just think he control the Geth the vision don't prove anything about that, even if the council believed Shepard that would have not incriminated Saren in any way)
PS: Renegade Shepard is best Shepard
25:39 sin: male Shepard dialogue plays despite the fact that he doesn’t exist here, also Kaiden dialogue when he’s not there
"tell that to Mandingo"
you sir, need professional help
I LUV THESE VIDEOS!!
10:05 What's funny is that I didn't know that Shepard HIMSELF could actually be the first person to say that iconic line in the trilogy until my, I dunno, 3rd or 4th playthrough.
Ea... Well deserved 500 sins :p
Man I missed your videos. Keep up the good work.
*ROUND OF APPLAUSE* This was so remarkably well detailed, well executed, enlightening, informative, fair, and comedic. Your efforts in sinning one of my favorite games of all time is appreciated.
*cough cough* Do Mass Effect 2 next *cough cough*
Side note: Please do not let my request null my previous opinion as some sort of butt-kissing. I watched a 51 minute video of you tearing the game apart and somehow still loved it. The praise is sincere.
43:38 actually according to ashley they do record footage on their armour , so yeah they do gave footage to present
Did you like, intentionally make your Shepard look like a 12 year old ginger boy?
Love the channel btw!