Hunt for Red October (1990) Ramius describes Cold War
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Let's face it... This short dialogue by Captain Marko Ramius is one of the most powerful descriptions of the Cold War ever uttered. Many younger people tend to underestimate just how powerful war can be, even a cold one.
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This movie is great because it portrayed the Soviets as serious, professional people trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities rather than some kind of lunatic killer cartoon characters.
Meanwhile, in Ukraine the Russians are in fact, "lunatic killer cartoon characters". I don't even have the stomach to watch the video of that poor soldier being beheaded slowly while alive.
Clancy (and Bond) had knack for writing consistent, plausible, competent antagonists with understandable motivations. In every single book.
@@piotrd.4850 Clancy only ever really shit on the politicians leading their nations to disaster. And terrorists lol. But for military professionals, he treated the opposing sides with great respect.
I miss the peace of fishing, like, when I was a boy...
40 years, I've been at sea
A war, at sea
A war with no battles
no monuments
only casualties
I widowed her the day I married her
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It is this scene that made me not care that a sub captain from Soviet Russia had a Scottish accent.
For the ones that readed the book this scene is abyssal deep.
The book was so much better...I know its cliche to say that...but this was one of those times...
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 *Every* Clancy book is better than the movie. This just happens to be the best adaptation of the lot. I won't even mention the abomination that was The Sum Of All Fears.
THIS monologue describes the Cold War PERFECTLY.
I always enjoy Sean Connery but incredible History and incredible Actor
In the book Ramius was in fact on land when his wife died. He took his wife to the doctor himself. To the best doctor he could find, because as the captain and the son of party official he was in a position to do that.
So imagine Ramius' horror when that very doctor went to the work drunk, butchered his job and to make things worse was completely out of reach even for a man of Ramius' positon. And you will easily understand why he hated the USSR with passion even though he hid it from party officials.
Precisely. And it's one of those things about the book that struck me head on reading it. Cause I'd seen the movie, so I had no idea.
Not to mention the medicine was probably not even medicine but distilled water. The stated reason is that managers would get a "bonus" for doing more than their quota. That was the other reason, less stated but more implied.
Besides the death of his wife, Ramius had another motive for revenge. His rage was also fueled against Stalin's Soviet engineered famine in the Ukraine that virtually wiped out his homeland.
@@michaelproctor8100 I thought he was Lithuanian?
@@WieldingEminator Yeah he was Lithuanian
Love the way they flesh out these characters so you really care about them. So that later, when Borodin says he would like to have seen Montana, it just breaks your heart. Of course that was the great Tom Clancy put that in there.
Did you know that in the novel, he (Borodin) was ready for a command of his own, but had once accused a political officer, the son of the chief political officer of the northern fleet of being homosexual? Melekhin was of equal rank to Ramius, but would never get a command, because his superiors wanted him to be an engineer.
@Wilkin's Coffee He's dead? WTF? When did that happen?! 😔
@@Euripides_Panz My reelection in the book he survived being shot.
When I first saw the movie, I thought he wanted to see Madonna. 😃
@@johnratcliffe6438 The cook shoots Borodin and then goes to the missile compartment to blow up the sub.
RIP to this legendary actor
I imagine that's how one describes the world of espionage, an invisible war with covert ops fought behind many fronts. No battles, no monuments, only casualties.
Well there is a monument in the CIA. Only stars, no names.
This particular scene had been directed so masterfully, it had became ageless. I found it more intense than some films released recently.
Masterful direction is a rarity these days
This entire movie is fantastic.
I unironically think this movie is the best Cold War movie, best modern submarine movie, and best Clancy adaptation movie, all in one. It's an underrated classic that ages very well.
“Possible aspect change on target, Captain.”
“Concur, possible target zig based on bearing rate.”
“CONN SONAR, CRAZY IVAN.”
"Which way is he turning Jonesy?"
@@DarkMatterX1 To the starboard!
"All Back Full"
"Captain, Say Again"
"I Said 'All Back Full' "
@@karlsmith2570 Jonesey : Captain, we're cavitating, he can hear us! Mancuso : Conn, aye. All right, Ryan, we just unzipped our fly. Mr. Thompson! Open the outer doors, firing point procedures. Now if that bastard so much as twitches, I'm going to blow him straight to Mars.
Rest In Peace. You're gone, but not forgotten.
This scene came to my mind as soon as I heard he had passed away.
perfect
Me too
But damn, I also just absolutely love that music. Just gives the right mix of tension, fear, uncertainty, sadness, and right at the end the sense of finality.
So this is weird, and I'm not sure who took it from whom, but it's also the "Dimension X" theme from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon show that was out when this movie was released. The music makes me think of Krang...
Best comment ever on the Cold War.
Sean Connery was great in this role along with his role on the Untouchables, Indiana jones and the last crusade, his role in the early 007 movies, and even his last movie the league of extraordinary gentlemen. Rest in peace.
The simple scene of the two subs across from one another just gives chills
And considering the time period and at times both just waiting for the order to unleash their horrific weapons.
My favorite scene of the entire great film.
“I widowed her the day I married her”. And there’s the entire motive.
What a OHMSS wink.
This was THE best Tom Clancy Movie. Wonderful cast...great script...beautifully acted.
John McTiernan did an awesome job too!
Patriot Games was better…
The murderer alec baldwin ruined this movie for me.
i love this movie to bits
Two truly outstanding actors...
Thanks you for posting. MM1/SS, USN, 1987-2008, Retired... memories...
Thank you for your service, sir.
Ms/cs1 (ss) 1994 to 2010
TM2/SS 2000-2006 here. Watching this movie as a kid is actually what got me to sign my SubVol papers. And join the Navy in general.
I use this line to describe trying to navigate being social and finding a relationship.
0:48; That guy's last name is Bean, he was active duty and was an extra in the film. I went through AW A School in Pensacola with him in 1997.
Love how they handled the music in this scene. Just enough to carry it along, but not too much to distract from it.
Dr. Grant and James Bond
in the book, she died because of a drunk surgeon making a mistake during a routine operation. The army refused him to come back to his dying wife even if he was their best officer. It was only a training exercise too so..
yeah if you didn't know why he was so fired up to give this submarine to the worst enemy possible and betray his country, well now you know.
What's worse is the drunkard wasn't even charged with any crime since daddy was a high up official in the political party. So between that and criminal intentions of the Soviet state Ramius decided to say "Fuck you motherland. I'm getting out of here!"
A victim of the excesses of the Stalinist regime.
@TheVoiceOfTruth Great point and much of the time overlooked...He is of Lithuanian heritage!
In the book, the surgeon that killed his wife was drunk on duty. She had appendicitis, and he nicked her intestine. The surgeon was the son of a party member. The antibiotics his wife was given afterwards were cheap generic medications that were actually just saline vials. Ramius was tormented between no justice from the incompetent surgeon, the medical system that let his wife die, and the country that let it all happen.
@@razorfett147 the Tzars were over half of a century gone by the time of the events in the book/movie.
It was a result of the corruption in the communist Soviet government.
RIP Mr C we all miss you
Gotta love that music
Post guards in the engineering spaces. If he can get to the caterpillar, he can get somewhere, more vital.
"It's the goddamned cook!"
"Mosht thing in here don't react well to bulletsh."
@@DarkMatterX1 "I have to watch what I shoot at?"
This is just a beautifully shot scene.
Sam Neill: I'll act with a subtle Russian accent which will add depth to my character and hopefully help the movie look more authentic.
Sean Connery: Yer talking pish!!!
Sean Connery literally is speaking with a Scottish accent but he still sounds the most Russian of all the crew members that are doing good Russian accents.
love Sam
THIS IS SHPARTA
@@drinks1019 well, at least until he says his actual Russian lines
Such a short, succinct distillation of the blind man's bluff war.
Fabulous movie, so many underlying secrets exposed on both sides. Power corrupts 💯
Hands down one of my all time favorite movies and books.
Basil Poledouris is a goddamned genius.
It's relatively an unknown picture now because it did not use any of the broadway music, but Les Miserables, with Liam Neeson as Valjean and Geoffrey Rush as Javert, had its soundtrack done also by BP. Greatly under-appreciated. He was awesome.
The truth. His score of Conan was rightly epic and his bombastic score of Starship Troopers was memorable but it was his subtle works that show his genius.
@@Elthenar Also, Robocop.
The book is an excellent read. Definitely recommended. It's shame that so much is omitted in the screen version but otherwise you'd have to plan on a movie 6 hours long
That 6 hour long movie would have been worth it
I want a 6 hour cut.
Shame they killed Borodin off in the movie, in the book he survived and got to live at Montana.
And became a paleontologist.
This part is so deep
400 meters!
such a shame that this track isnt on the soundtrack :(
I have it! I'll link you.
Can I get a link to that too? :)
Can you send the link to me as well????
Can you send the link at all?
Challenger Network Please send me that link Challenger
Rest In Peace Sean Connery.
R.I.P. Sean Connery
Incredible reaction by Sam Neill. That is acting!
I always loved how he asks about being able to drive state to state with no problems. It's like a kid asking about a video arcade.
"I would like to visit Montana, where I can dig for dinosaur bones, and a wife that looks like Laura Dern" lol
@@davidharrison7014
Actually, it's...
Capt. Vasili: I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me.
@@tommypetraglia4688 Yes.
@@davidharrison7014 "Yummm!" (Great combination, BTW.)
Absolute favorite scene
Damn, got me chills watching this, so well conveyed.
The challenge of outsmarting the enemy seems more than thrilling though.
I can see the subs more clearly here than anywhere else so far.
Come on Ramius, keep it light.
"I widowed her the day I married her..."
The music is well done.
When the captain sleeps...... Sweet dreams...... Others dream now in another way.....
I widowed her when I married her. Fuck bro.
Classic scene
Poor Borodin he wanted to live the American dream and never even got to see america
Great scene
" The Enemy Below "
Another excellent Submarine movie.
My dogs name is Ramius bc my mom loves this movie
my favourite movie next to Hoosiers and Rudy
extremely powerfull scene this one
High ranking Soviet naval officer with a Scottish accent😞
... 40 years at sea... no wars except casualties... darn... no wonder he's itching to fish... and damn he'll defect to have a peaceful day with a rod and reel..🤣🤣
A recreational vehicle
Besides the death of his wife, Ramius had another motive for revenge. His rage was also fueled by Stalin's Soviet engineered famine in the Ukraine that virtually wiped out his homeland.
He was Lithuanian
@@kewltony go read the novel
See you don’t play poker with this guy. Cuz 10 years later, when you’ve moved on and forgotten this dude is STILL PLAYING! And he hasn’t even shown his hand yet.
This was what America thought of Russia in the 80s. Look what they've become now.
105 % power reactor...
"Then give me 115%!"
Captain Nemo
Time for a remake now that the INF treaty is suspended.
ZZTOP ZEEƏCC.
Capt. Vasili: I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me.
Ramius: I have no such appetites.
(For the rabbit, or the round woman, or maybe Montana in general?)
He doesn't want to let on he wants to defect.
@@deadaccount1342 No no no -- he is speaking of appetites for life beyond the Soviet navy. Re-watch the movie and realize that each officer (except the pol killed at the opening) is with him in the effort to defect. Or read the book. It will all make so much more sense.
WTF did he say @ 0.05 🤷🏼♂️ ⁉️
Did he say “I have no such appetites”?????? Someone please help me out here because it’s driving me crazy 🤣🤦🏼♂️
You were correct, his exact words were just that. "I have no such appetites...."
That's what he said, yep. This part is from a longer scene which begins with Borodin describing how he'd like to settle down (in Montana), and find an American wife with whom to raise and eat rabbits, then roam around in an RV, and maybe get a second wife in Arizona :) Ramius's response shows he's not motivated by dreams of the future, but more by bitterness and regret.
Cold war? .....I have a better plan.
Although loving this movie. Some of the script are a bit to american biased (In a sense that they come to some sort of paradise). For example. Why would Borodin (second officer here) like to live in Montana, right out in the minuteman country side. Thats not very realistic. Second, there isn't a single sentence describing negativly america. Im far from a communist, but to say that you defect to a nation that has everything positive and your home country to some extent have negatives. Thats kinda cheesy. It should be a more realistic dialog like in the "godfather" or "chinatown".
Just my own interpretation:
Geology / Climate ~ I don't recall Borodin specifically mentioning his hometown, but along the Canadian border is about as close as any US States (apart from Alaska, obviously) get to a climate similar to Russia's. The fact that Montana is just about as far as one can get from any significant body of water in the US might also play a role in his decision - when one is a defecting naval officer, one might well wish to be as far as possible from any navigable waters.
"Grass is Greener" ~ It is always easiest to focus on the worst aspects of your current situation and the best aspects of another. How many times has some fame-struck 'actor/actress' run off to Hollywood, dreaming of becoming the next superstar only to wind up a drug-addled vagrant?
America the Beautiful ~ How many scores of people from Cuba or Haiti pile into leaky rafts to try to make it through shark-infested waters to the United States? How many people DIE hiding in suitcases or other luggage simply trying to reach US soil? How many millions of dollars do Mexicans pay coyotes to smuggle them across the US border?!?
A great many deluded (if not outright brainwashed) snowflakes are quick to criticize America - similar to how someone with an expensive brand new car obsesses about food or drink near it and totally freak out about a scratch so minor that it's difficult to see even while looking straight at it! The "American Experiment" has served as the foundation for virtually every current western nation's government. (Often imitated, never duplicated.)
While no government is perfect, we must be doing *SOMETHING* right to be the single preeminent superpower on the face of the planet. Back when Gorbachev first visited the US (time frame similar to that depicted in the movie), he was utterly astonished at the sight of a typical American supermarket - every kind of food that could be imagined, freely available to all customers, and so inexpensive that "even the lowest of peasants can feast every day". When word of this reached the starving masses back in the USSR, no amount of political correctness could prevent socialism from collapsing in on itself.
Well, there are the remarks about "buckaroo" and "rock and roll" but I agree, it's all a bit too positive.
+Marcus
I've had close personal involvement with people who grew up in the Soviet Union (they left there in early 90's). During my conversations with them about their lives there, one thing that stood out was their attitude towards the West and USA. I found it interesting that they didn't buy the party line and rather looked at the West with curiosity. While they regarded some aspects of their own state with pride, they also viewed many other aspects of it with a very critical, often satirical, eye.
In other words, they didn't regard the West in the terms their government used publicly.
Sure, that was fewer than 10 people, and they chose to leave, but they assured me many, many people were of the same general view, and I found it very interesting. They also confirmed that many of the statements we were told about life in the SU were true and they well understood why we thought those things seemed incredible/unbelievable.
With respect to the movie, I'd think it rather strange if a group committing what was high treason would be praising much (or even at all) the state they were betraying.
Cheers
You had me agreeing with you up to "deluded, brainwashed snowflakes". What is it with the urge to call anyone not agreeing with you names?
DevSolar Mainly a reflex from constantly being called 'racist', 'sexist', 'homophobic', 'xenophobic', etc etc ad nauseum for daring to disagree with the usual SJW Alt-Left approved rhetoric. Trash-talking about America is foremost among their talking points and I have developed a very short fuse on the subject.
Real? I died with my men in churches on the sea in plains and it was always a broken religion or a broken state... With some of them i never lived a marriage.... Others were pain.... Friends were away in just a second like some never knew what others did to.... Take their lifes like nothing....to find my first love feels like an neverending torture.... And jails full of pain that noone knows!
Why i ask myself to these scene what is a dying wife after a german transport..... Ask the people that were going to... German jails.... Some alived.... Because they had to behave very... Sad because of... Sad germans...... If she don't endet here.... She is alive.... If she endet here... She is dammed to run that circle... So they react to ex British or Russian woman here... Died in other states too....
why the distracting music? is it a copyright issue?
That's the score in the film.
If i would not been sterilisized in an sad way here the people next to me would cut out my children or rape and overfall me new.... That means life here sometimes i think about to go into a church... Not here... Into another religion... Although in danger.... Living for dying.... That is....... Why!
They would not have died your wife.... Don't you know what they mean in to... Have... A woman (in what a kind of beeing is another question!)
Is this english?
Horrible. Editing the wrong music in.
That was the music for that scene. Watch the movie sometime.