Drinker's Extra Shots - The Hunt For Red October
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Hunt for Red October, starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, is a brilliantly paced Cold War thriller that still holds up extremely well today. Join me as I dive deep into this movie.
Talking about good actors, Richard Jordan (who sadly died couple of years after Red October) as a National Security Adviser Jeffrey Pelt deserves also a special mention..."Listen, i'm a politician, which means i'm a cheat and a liar and when i'm not kissing babies, i'm stealing their lollipops. But it also means i keep my options open". This is how you define characters in "Dad Films", which are sorely needed in these dark days of entertainment.
One of my all-time favorite quotes from that movie. That dude was absolutely stellar in that role. "...you've lost _another_ submarine?" LOL!!
Yes, Richard Jordan was an awesome actor!
Mancuso (skipper of the Dallas): "Allright Ryan, we just unzipped our fly...." a line like that nowadays would send a gazillion no-lifers into a virtual frenzy; taking offence on someone elses behalf - begs the question, when will HfRO be (transmitted) on the telly? How about Crimson Tide? JEEZ, I weep for what's left of this planet and the potential it once had.
Just looked it up on IMDB:
Jack Ryan : [thinking out loud - while slamming his hand on the table] You son of a bitch!
Jeffrey Pelt : [Mildly] You want to add something to our discussion, Doctor Ryan?
Another great line Richard Jordan delivery "You've dropped so many sonobuoys that a man can walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without getting his feet wet!"
"I really miss movies with male actors that look and talk and act like actual adult men, who radiate authority and confidence", me too drinker... me too *sight*
Im a field engineer in uk and this is what the men are like when women are not about, because your not allowed to be a man in case it ...intimidates,scares upsetes, belittle...etc
@@101markharris well, that's just sad
Or in otherwords, men who act like realistic men during a desperate situation. By taking charge and planning strategically, instead of being treated like babies that need to be handheld.
I'm sick of seeing men belittled all the time by "strong female stereotype" and I'm a woman.
Art imitates life. We just spent 4-years in the United States with an actual adult cry-baby as POTUS, and his party has been whiny crybabies for my entire memorable adult life. What the hell do you expect? When Real-Life adult men don't act like that what is art to do?
@@geobloxmodels1186 You know movies are just...movies...right? Like Cringeworthy LoLz if you think indecisive blathering hasn't been a reality for all of human history.
Ain't no lie Drinker, just listening to you talk about this movie makes me realize how far entertainment has fallen.
How has it fallen, except that it now features more people with black or brown skin or who aren’t straight?
@@Markunator the majority of big Hollywood movies nowadays just try and shove their ideas down your throat, instead of providing quality entertainment.
you said what i was about to post. I didn't even think that highly of 90's films compared to 80's back then. geeze, if only I knew what things would turn into
The hunt for red October is a film that manufactures consent for war, based on the flimsy assumption that Russia is a threat.
@@antagonistickeypress5271 In what way? Which movies do this?
Watch this movie when it first released in the cinemas with nothing but the lowest expectations. Said expectations were blown away and then some. Spectacular pacing and tension building that make slow paced submarine battles as exciting as aerial dog fights.
Back in the days when Hollywood could still make great movies. No messages no lectures just plenty of tension and a great cast it's the kind of movie really miss these days .
The Hunt for Red October is an actual classic movie that has held up for decades, and will hold up for decades to come
The key to this movie was Tom Clancy's incredible novel. Most military thrillers are not good stories to begin with and adaptation to screen play is done by hacks who have no actual lived experience with the subject. This movie is what happens when an excellently written novel is carried forward to the screen by a team dedicated to preserving the novel's excellence. That we had such integrity to the story in the modern world.
Classic lines like 'Give me a ping Vasili, one ping only please' or 'you have killed us, you arrogant arse'.
they cant take movies like this away from us.
My favorite movie, together with Star Trek IV and the original Ghost in the Shell.
One of my wife's favorite movies 😊
As a UK Submariner i approve this message!
Fun fact during the movie you can see a white jacketed person in the background of many scenes. I wonder who it was?
Also during the final battle. The american Ships have blue, The Russian Ships have red lights, And the Red October is yellow lit. It is a interesting way to tell them apart.
"Dads film." You mean a film made with maturity that sets to entertain, not pander or spoon feed. More "Dad films", please.
Alas I can only like this comment but once
@@robaitken4592 but we the people can like on your behalf
Cheers more dad films please!!
🔼This.🔼 Now take my Upvote and show yourself out. 👌😁👍
Now I need a "dad films" playlist...
Such a cool move they pulled off when they switched from speaking Russian to English with that little camera move. You were simply asked to believe they were obviously still speaking Russian the entire time on their own ship, but that for convenience sake you were going to hear English. Just a fantastic little quirk of this great movie.
Was just about be make the same comment but you beat me to it. Very clever little move there, and completely removed the need to have half the film with English subtitles.
And on a word that is the same in Russian and English. "Armageddon"
And word where the transition is made "armageddon" is the same in English and Russian. Very smooth.
In the (terrific) book, Tom includes the fact that there's a rank - Starpom - in the Russian navy: kind of the equivalent to warrant officer, but not quite. Fun facts - "THEY'RE FAAAAN-TASTIC".
Interesting footnote: the same technique was used in Judgement at Nuremberg, when they switch from German to English during a speech by Max Schell. Pretty sure they were inspired by that scene.
"Gone more nuts than a 3rd wave feminist on TikTok."
Now that's just impossible.
Allow me to introduce 4th and 5th wave womanists.
@@hitandruncommentor they're just sexist commies
TikTok is thoroughly deplorable as it is, never mind it being infested by thousands of Feminazis, Social Justice "Advocates" and confused teenagers/ twenty-somethings screaming their pronouns into the camera as if anybody gives a toss.
The absolute worse are the Liberal/Socialist teachers and lecturers abusing it, like the one who recently got the boot for making a TikTok of her teaching her preschool class about m@sturbation... Seriously, these people are "educating" impressionable young minds 😳
@@hitandruncommentor
Call me when they get the pitchforks.
@@residentelect
Well technically an eleven year old is impressionable as well, but yeah she sounds like some demented groomer since she's going for the booger-eating preschoolers who have no idea what "the special hug" is all about.
I'm Russian, and here's a funny fact: 'Red October' is the name of a sweets factory in Moscow, so when I hear about 'The Hunt For Red October', my imagination instantly paints me a picture similar to Willy Wonka' movie :) Mmmm, chocolate... And then it comes back to me: oh, it's this one about the submarine with Sean Connery.
Between that and JFK proclaiming "I am a jelly doughnut" in Berlin, I think we had a tasty Cold War my friend. :)
I started laughing mt ass off at the thought of a military action comedy about a spec ops group going on a mission to the Russian version of the Wonka factory.
Korosho. Spaciba, a chara.
@@airplanenut89 directed by Wes Anderson
The steel factory in Stalingrad was also called Red October
“I really miss movies with male actors that look and talk and act like actual adult men who radiate authority and confidence”
100% agree and needed more than ever today!
🎯🎯
I blame movies like this for my taste in men. 😂
As someone who was born in the 90s, I find it truly shocking how many people have not seen this movie. The acting, the music, the script. This movie has stood the test of time.
I seem to remember that it was John Mctiernan's followup to Die Hard. At least, that was what got me into the theater. "Oh, directed by the Die Hard guy? I'll give it a shot."
Ditto. It's really remarkable in the truest sense of the word.
True, though if I'm going to rewatch a sub movie from this era it would be Crimson Tide or Down Periscope
Its a classic!
Retired US Navy subnuc officer here: despite the Hollywood liberties taken, the portrayals are decently accurate to where even I can sit back and enjoy this film despite my years on a sub. Some films of a similar genre or setting go a little too far, but this movie keeps everything grounded. However, I do still have my guilty pleasure of Down Periscope with Kelsey Grammer as my favorite subnuc movie!
👍 USS Stingray (retired SOSUS)
my favorite double-feature... "Operation Petticoat" followed by "Down Periscope". Just saw operation periscope, so that means, now...
@@Hiraghm why does Operation Petticoat get so much hate? Its one of those golden age 1960's films.
I love Down Periscope; One of my guilty pleasures. Grammar fills the role perfectly.
Nah, since when are comedies guilty pleasures? I think people need some stupid in their life from time to time.
I usually just watch serious cinema, but one of my most favourite comedies is "Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay" - can't watch that obnoxious crap sober but with a couple of beers and a spliff it becomes top-notch cinema. :P XD
"One ping only". Great scene in a great film. And thanks for reminding me that Alec Baldwin once could act.
He’s still a great actor, in his latest film I hear he shoots a lady and it looks really believable.
@Jake DOG
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@@7Jstamper 🤣
@@7Jstamper Haven't laughed hard at a UA-cam comment in a while, but thank you. I might be going to hell for laughing at someone dying, but that was damn funny.
@@7Jstamper That was harsh. I'm still laughing my A off anyway.
I loved the detail of Ryan, who doesn't smoke, taking a cigarette from the Soviets in order to be laughed at for choking on it. That's a dude who's secure & confident--"I'm going to be the butt of a joke in order to break the tension." THAT'S a real man!!
Probably a reference to the novels, in which Ryan smokes and quits and smokes and quits and….
I took it as wanting to create a bond or link with them, to break the tension, so he asked for a smoke. Like two regular dudes. It was an olive branch move that was more of that era. He didn't do it to "be the butt of the joke". But the effect worked either way.
You don't smoke on a submarine or spaceship. Only in the best of movies though.
@@jameswentzkershawn001 They smoked like MF'ERs on the boats....40 years ago.
@@JetEngine787 as someone who identifies as a 1980's nuclear submariner, I can confirm this as fact
I served on a LA class submarine during this era, and while there are technical inaccuracies and nits to pic they nailed the feel and the essence of submarine warfare and Cold War tension. When people ask what it was like this is the movie I recommend.
Agreed, mate. The feeling is definitely there.
Tell me you didn’t laugh when Jones ID’ed that torpedo just from the noise it made passing the sub…without his cans on or anything.😂
@@thomashauguel6811 I laughed when Jones whipped-out the chart and did all the navigation work. If I had a dollar for every time that I told sonar that the contact they were tracking could not be there because it would be on dry land.
I was on a German multi role frigate in those days 😀
"LA class submarine"... suddenly I got this picture of some guy on waterskis being towed behind the Dallas...
I served on a boomer in the late 80's and watching this film made me realize how much more interesting fast attack patrols must have been.
As he often is, the Drinker is spot on for this one. From McTiernan's ballsy switch between Russian and English to James Earl Jones's "I was never here" the craft on display is solid, what a film!
What a roll director McTiernan was on at this time, Predator, Die Hard and Hunt For Red October back to back. Most directors would give anything to have even one of those on their resume.
Exactly
On form
I never thought all these amazing movies being directed by the same guy. An absolute powerhouse.
If you've ever listened to his commentary on HfRO, he's very critical of himself, worrying that the audience wouldn't understand some plot point or camera shot when in actuality his direction nailed it on the head. Great director.
Yeah, it's amazing it all turned to shit, in the end.
Hunt for Red October is that movie for me, the one I've seen at least a hundred times and would happily sit down and watch again at any point.
I have many like that, in fact now modern movies are garbage they are indeed all I have, so buckle up to re-watch timeless classics for the 111th time and still find them enjoyable from start to finish.
Same, and I really dislike rewatching movies for the most part, only a few qualify for me.
@@TheMADmk yea last time I was at the cinema was to Ironman 1, last film I watched was inherit the wind, I go back to master and commander every so often, must give hunt for red october a rewatch.
Every time. I'll be channel-flipping and run across it. Doesn't matter if it's the first scene or the last, I'll just settle in for the ride. Hell, my wife doesn't even make fun of me for it any more!
Blues Brothers or Kelly's Heroes for me, this is damn close though!
I've lost count of the number of times I've watched this film, and it still entertains me every single time. Solid story, good acting, side details used to build tension, smoothly inserted humor, and just enough direct conflict to give a climactic ending.
Call it whatever you like, this is and will always be a brilliant piece of entertainment.
the acting and the storywriting is what sets most of those good old films apart from the new ones, u could actually believe that this happened or is just happening around u, u could feel the tension, the atmosphere was created by such good details and also great music, all was so well done.
I know what you mean I watched it alot of times as well. It's my favorite movie.
Dude, I would conservatively estimate I've seen this film 200 times. And I still watch it at least twice a year. Fucking epic.
"A great day comradesh, we shail into hishtory"
-Russian Sean Connery
"Let them sching".
Yesh...
I shupposhe thersh no chansh of a shaushage shandwich? 🥪
May he resht in peash.
hes an Egyptian immortal just hiding among the Russians.
Loved Connery's unique Scottish version of Russian: "Thingshc here don't react well to bulletsch" - even better, Alec Baldwin mimicking him perfectly a few minutes later as he goes after his KGB prey on board the boat. One of the first DVDs I bought back in the day.
I think it's the only accent Connery can do...
Who cares.. well.. Can't have it all.
Still proudly have that DVD; can have that one!
Ramias is Lithuanian
"That'sh uhn authentic Lishuanian ackshent."
That line, Ryan saying “right”. Then that money shot. Ryan hiding behind the missile silos. Fookin epic
Red October is very nearly a perfect film. I loved the story, casting, directing, EVERYTHING. They truly did justice to Tom Clancy's source novel. The role that just blew me away was so small but SO good! That was Tim Curry as Dr. Petrov. WOW. When he has to challenge Rameus, and says "So that no one may... arm the missile!" You could see what he was going through by the look on his face! Thrilling to watch.
Opening alone rivals the scene of Imperial Star Destroyer in New Hope.
well like all Clancy novels they took liberties with the source materials. still the first two books adopted to film were the closest to the source, despite a 3rd act that strays a bit in both. I don't mind it. I've seen a lot of books improved by movie adaptions changing up the 3rd act a bit such as jaws... and yes, Red October, which had a better 3rd act in the movie then the book (I'm torn on Patriot games though, I think the Patriot games 3rd act was more exciting in the movie, but the book was more tense and i think more emotionally impactful, so it's sort of a coin flip, I think i prefer the book but i don't dislike the movie). Clear and Present Danger is the last great Clancy adaptation, but it's also the most divorced from the source material. This one is only mostly accurate in the first act, then it starts to stray, leading up to a mess of a 3rd act and ending not from the books at all. Still, if you ignore the source material, it's an excellent movie. Shame about the rest of the Clancy adaptations. There are some good books that never get adopted left.
Anything with Tim Curry is a blast to watch…..
Das boot and u571 and crimson tide are fun also I d say das boot is the best submarine movie ever in my opinion
Tim Curry is in this thing, too, in a 'normal' role. This movie had a WEALTH of acting talent. And knew EXACTLY how to put it to best use.
Propa thespian
He could have still been wearing fishnets under his pants
@@jca4la Hahaha! I'm just a sweet transvestite living in transsexual Torpedo-tube Land ah ah ah ah!
Remember six degrees of Kevin Bacon? I remember using this movie often because Tim Curry is in so many movies people don't think about and he's always fantastic
“I would have liked to see Montana” is the saddest moment in any movie I’ve ever seen.
Fuck yeah. I actually teared up a little in that scene. Fuck I miss movies like this
But he did see Montana in " Jurassic Park".
If you ever that the chance, check out Mad Magazines spoof - it'll cheer you up (especially that one panel with Tom and Jerry sitting on a torpedo after it's been fired). Ah, happy daze!
No papers.
@@menevetsny No papers.
The Russian crew cheering on their Captain as he "fights to the end", savoring his "breeching" of an adversary, then bidding him a hero's farewell when the explosion signals his glorious exit is quite the send off.
And it serves the plot in more than one capacity.
*breaching
The Captain is driving the Americans out of the water!
"It's Scottish or nothing, bitches!"
I about damn near fell off of my chair! You summed up the legend in one perfect sentence.
God damn right!!! Cause he's Sean mother fucking Connery!! YEAH!!!
Zardoz - I always wonder how his agent sold that part to him 'How do you feel about loincloths, Sean?'
Jack Ryan was the best thing about reading a Tom Clancy novel.
Until it strayed into alternate history territory. With The Sum of All Fears Clancy really went off the rails and with Debt of Honor into cloud cookoo land. Although in a way it shows that Clancy was like the US after the end of the Cold War. Rudderless looking for a new bad guy and then hyping up crack pot dictators as the most dangerous thing since [BAD MAN FROM GERMANY]. Jack Ryan worked best in the confines of the Cold War. Too bad it ended.
The first season of the Amazon show was halfway decent, "slow is smooth smooth is fast"; the second season devolved quickly and I won't be back for any more.
The one completely outside the Ryan universe - Red Storm Rising - is the best, though. 😎
@@shadowchaser3836 Yes 100%, RSR is and will now sadly forever be Clancy at his best.
And then Ubisoft came to fuck everything up
Not to mention the masterpiece of soundtrack for that hell of a movie.
RIP Basil Poledouris. He was up there with John Williams, James Horner, Hans Zimmer etc.
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His Scottish accent speaking Egyptian from The Highlander was fantastic too...
@@dezperado9365
Love it mate 😂
He is not really. Connery could only ever play one role: Sean Connery. But, if that role fit the movie he was effing amazing!
"Mr. Connery, you're playing an ancient Egyptian Spaniard -- we need to darken your skin and teach you a new accent, or two."
"Ye git Scootish ere ye git noothin".
That's not a Scottish accent either XD Not sure what accent Connery has other than his own unique one.
Goodness, Hunt of Red October is just a total gem. Love this movie.
Read the book, and love the movie more than the book. How many other films can you say this to?
WOW WHAT A UNIQUE AND INTERESTING TAKE BUDDY!
@@ryan.coogler Amen to that!
Who doesn't? Also a fantastic book - yes BOOK - much like Das Boot.
"When I was 12, I helped my daddy build a bomb-shelter in our basement because some fool parked a dozen warheads 90 miles off the coast of Florida. _This thing_ could park a couple _hundred_ warheads off Washington and New York, and no one would know anything about it 'til it was all over."
A pedo actor said that 😂😂😂
@@evanbelisle8464
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that about him until you mentioned it just now! 😯
"that torpedo did NOT self-destruct. You heard it hit the hull, and I... was never here." One of the most cool lines in cinema.
Another being: Ryan, shome thingsh in here dont react well to bulletsh. :) Just awesome. Awesome allaround.
James Earl Jones can make a laundry list sound cool.
I've memed this for work many times.
People got hyped in the theater during that line. Like 'yeaaah....coool'.
I thought that Admiral Greer showing his credentials and making that "I was never here" quote was a bit over the top. Certainly everyone in that frigate's CIC knew that there was some serious stuff going down since a senior admiral showing up on a deployed frigate in dress uniform is a bit conspicuous. The frigate's command group would have been briefed and prepped for this operation.
Sean Connery was a Legend, and could make character tangible and quite memorable.
I'm convinced the man could have played a woke male feminist if he wanted to, but it definitely would have required acting.
Love this film.
@@mattp6089 Mr.Connery and a feminist? Never would had happened....The guy was slapping women left and right (he even admitted so in an interview).....He was a mans man, nothing less.
@@Mythos1981 He was a typical HYPOCRITICAL "scottish indepenence supporter" though ... living in the Bahamas and declaring his love for the country he DOESNT live in anymore.
@@Mythos1981 I'm saying the man could have portrayed it. He wouldn't have, but he could.
I can't believe this movie has a reputation of being a "dad's movie". Here in France it's still considered a masterpiece.
It's not necessarily derogatory. It just means there isn't needless fluff or drama or other foolishness.
I am convinced John McTiernan is one of the best directors of the last half of the 20th century, period. Die Hard, Predator, The Hunt For Red October, the man is a legend (period)
He had a helluva run. Thomas Crown is also an excellent film.
13th Warrior is also a film I really enjoyed though it was crucified at the box office.
Yes
In my opinion, the coolest thing about this movie is that not much actually happens.
Most of the film is about research, preparation, theorizing, scheming and outright guessing - and it's all ridiculously tense.
Scenes where The Dallas is tracking The Red October are absolutely riveting, and without a single explosion or car chase.
This is superb McTiernan direction.
Not to mention that there is no unnecessary "love interest", no PC pandering, no mention of anyone's sexual identity or preference... not even a McGuffin, because the Red October is not merely a plot device, but is practically a character in the film as well.
@@jcb3393 Also no lens flares, mystery boxes, or any other JJ Abrams type bs.👍✨
@macca au Exactly! A movie or TV show doesn't have to be beginning to end nonstop explosions, running, jumping, shooting, etc. to be entertaining and captivating. This movie was the perfect blend of a compelling story, intellectual deductive reasoning, and action without being excessively heavy on either unlike a lot of movies and TV shows these days that are either all talk or all action. 👍✨
@macca au Agreed 💯🍸👍✨
@macca au Maybe Lithuanian Russian sounds to other Russian speakers like Scottish English sounds to other English speakers? Hell, Irish, Scottish, Canadian, different parts of the USA all have different dialects. The Soviet Was large enough to have SOME accent and dialect diversity ;)
At least thats the way I always thought of it... The universal translator just gives Lithuanian Russian a Scottish accent when translated to English
I have read the novel, and I have watched the film. This is easily my favourite film ever, I can watch it over and over and never be bored. In fact, I would even go as far to say that Captain Ramius, as a character, is probably one of my role models, as weird as that sounds - the strength this guy had, as a Lithuanian who climbed the ranks of the Soviet Union despite disagreeing with much of it.
Right with you on both book and movie. My SOLE complaint about the movie is that it never explains Ramius's motivation of avenging his wife. Maybe there are camera angles or something subtle I missed each time I watched, but I think it's an essential piece of the puzzle that got left out. Otherwise, 100% on board.
@@danielpayne1597 her deeply held religious convictions, in spite of living in atheistic communist Russia, rubbed off on him. When he saw the sole purpose of this ship, he knew he had to prevent the Armageddon she'd told him about. He didn't do it to avenge her, but in honor of her.
Ah, you've given me a chance to explain the only movie headcanon I have ever come up with.
Borodin in fact survived his wounds, and worked in Montana as a paleontologist until 1993, when eccentric businessman John Hammond invited him to visit his theme park.
Too bad Vasily couldn't have visited him. I hear I would have liked to have seen Montana.
Exactly the sort of thing that the government would do to protect a defector! Write the script and I will pre-buy my ticket. Wait, so was Ellie Sattler going to be his first wife, or number two?
Brilliant!
@@johnbigboote8900 Ellie Sattler was his CIA handler, she was supposed to keep an eye on him, but when she realised that she was falling in love with him, she transferred and ultimately married her old highshool love (Jurassic Park 3). Her CIA connection got the soldiers to show up in the end of that film.
@@prince-solomon Honestly, it's eerie to see how the pieces of this story fall together so effortlessly.
One of my all time favorite movie lines was Fred Thompson saying “Russians don’t take dump, son, without a plan.” Classic.
And of course there’s always “one ping only.”
"I would like to have seen Montana"
In full Connery mode: "Thingsch here don't react well to bulletsch" and Alec Baldwin doing a perfect impression a few moments later.
We used to say, "one ping only" in high school when we were on our computers. Good times.
"But sir, the whole point of having two keys is so that one man can not..."
"Can not what?"
One of the best lines of all time.
@@ColoradoStreaming he didn’t even mention Tim Curry was in this movie 😁👍🏻👍🏻
Hunt is close to a perfect movie. Its VERY rewatchable and you find something new every time. I'm convinced it was cast on the actors voices. It's a movie about sound and they have every character with a very unique voice.
It also has my favorite line in any movie "I'm a politician, that means I'm a cheat and liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops"
Case in point about the intelligence of this film, the shoot out in the Missile Bay
Ramius - "Ryan, be careful what you shoot at, some things in here don't react to well to Bullets"
Camera pans to show rows of SLBM tubes, but Ryan doesnt look into the camera and say something lie "Oah no its full of Nuclear weapons and if I shoot badly it will explode and everyone dies., oah no!!" It expects you to understand why this is serious,
When movies didn't slow down for the dumbest person in the room
And the soundtrack playing during that scene also sets the tone very well.
Rofl! Yes, exactly, you nailed it. That scene gives me chills because he says nothing. xD
Nuclear weapons are the least of your worries. They're designed not to go off accidentally. The MISSILES (specifically their FUEL) has enough energy to melt the sub to molten steel. And, honestly, they're a lot less stable than the warheads.
@@chrisrautmann8936 Indeed, we can get into detonation safety designs and the near impossibility of an unarmed nuke going off, or the difference between Solid vs Liquid fueled rockets aboard ship - but I love that the film didn't ^_^
Well if you get a fire in the missile bay you can just dive under the water to put it out....which some brass-balled Russian captain in a Typhoon actually did.
Minor quibble: the movie wasn’t set in the “late 1980s”, it was stated explicitly that the film took place “…shortly before Gorbachev came to power”. That would place it right around 1984, and more in line with the source novel.
That’s a small issue you get when the source material is based on some cutting edge technology. Hollywood takes so long to get a film out that it often seems out of tune. I don’t remember if the film even discussed the caterpillar drive, but it was a fascinating part of the book, but by the film’s release it was standard sub technology.
There was a time after the death of Brezhnev (c.1983) when there was a rapid succession of Soviet leaders (Andropov, Chernenko) prior to Gorbachev that created additional tension between the US and Soviet Union.
It was pretty necessary to backdate it since relations were thawing considerably between us and the Soviet Union. Early 80's would have been more believable since tensions were very high between the 2 countries.
@@tylerskiss The Caterpillar Drive is an integral part of the plot, and even almost 40yrs after the source material was written remains a somewhat elusive technological development!
Came here to say that
"Andrei...you've lost another submarine???" best part of the movie lol
Richard Jordan is _fantastic_ in this movie.
Befitting the Cold War, that was a 3rd degree radiation BURN
Even a small role like the presidents security advisor is casted and played really well. "Listen, im a politician. I`m a cheat and a liar. When im not kissing babies , im stealing their lollies."
“Ryan, some things in here don’t react well to bullets.”
An American actor perfectly imitating a Scottish actor poorly imitating a Russian captain. It doesn’t get any better than that!
The little humor in a serious film. ;) Great balance without taking you out of the experience.
How racist would that be in today's fcuked up society...🙄
Oh, also only two black actors in it...RACISM!!!!!!
I don't react well to bullets.
@@TheKgr1967 The radar operator from Cal-Tech was excellent, and also black. In addition to Darth Vader.
Yeah, LIKE ME!
The original VHS tape was red plastic instead of the standard black...fuck I'm old.
Don't feel bad about it; be smug that we got all the great films in our day; we enjoyed seeing all the originals before this never-ending barrage of shitty remakes became the norm. And yeah, I remember that red casing; I thought it was a great touch.
Yep. Me too.
Prince Charles cinema in London plays the classics if you are in the UK.
The Spiceworld VHS was lime green instead of black.
I'm ashamed to admit I know that, but thankfully this will get lost in the comments.
@@britbloc123 I will remember it forever ^^
Drinker, with regards to the accents in the film, one of the most subtle nuances of the film is right at the beginning. You can thank me for highlighting this, and use it whenever anyone says the same thing...
The scene towards the start of the film where the political officer is reading from the book is the moment. Notice the camera zoom on the lips as he reads, the dialogue switches from Russian to English. This is the moment where (I believe) we are to deduce they are still speaking in Russian, however the director has helped us all out by having them read it in their natural accents. Tim Curry, Stellen Skaarsgard... all of them don't put on accents. I don't mind it, and I am easily able to look past it. And to be honest, it would probably have been far more distracting and take away from the film if they were putting on Russian accents.
This is (in my opinion) one of the greatest films of all time. It builds up, takes you on a wild fucking ride, and when it finishes, you genuinely feel it was a true epic.
Top shelf cast, John McTiernan directing, brilliant sound score, an incredible script and actual storyline and cinematography... this movie had it all. It's a damn shame they can't make them like this anymore.
And given the fact there are (from memory) literally 3 women in the movie, Ryan's wife and the 2 air hostesses, probably wouldn't get green lit in the current climate of film either. If made today, it would be absolute dogshit. I'm glad it was made in the early 90's.
Fucking love your work mate, keep it up.
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Ah, signature McTierran's move from 13th Warrior.
"... Let them sing."
One of the greatest lines in the movie!
Connery's portrayal here is the pinnacle of being a true leader. He knows his men, he knows his ship, and he knows himself.
Fucking legend!
My favorite line is "One ping only, please" He's not discussing what's going on, so he's not telling the viewers, but you can read it on his face. An excellent movie.
@@PamJernigan "One ping only" is in countless lines of code throughout the world of coding.
Interesting your take (not saying its wrong). I assumed he used 'let them sing' because he had a suspicion that US sub may be nearby and he wanted to (subtly) announce their presence in order for a shooting war not to start pre-maturely. So by allowing his men to sing, it helped to defeat the catapillar stealth feature. The US sonar men did acknowledge that he 'thought he heard singing' which lends credence to that hypothesis at least. ;)
@@briankrause2359 You need to be writing books, not UA-cam comments.
There's money in that and you've got the skill, my dude!
Considering the considerable length of the book, this is probably the best novel adaptation in existence. You really have to hand it for them, it is very faithful to the spirit of the book and you never feel like you are missing out on important details. I only wish they took 3 minutes to include the scene from the book with the US-Soviet fighter aircraft seconds from engaging each other and starting world war 3 - it's so memorable. Though it might've been hard to do it without wasting time introducing the wider consequences of the armies' standoff and possibly messing with the tight pacing.
Absolutely agreed. For me it was the other way around - first the movie as a kid and later the book as a teen. I must say the book really gave me the extra layer of immersion into this atmosphere and I felt even more connected to that childhood memory. Amazing story and great execution both on paper and film. Wish we had more movies like that...
And the A10s scaring the beejesus out if the Kirov.
Totally agree, Red October is a masterclass in how to do a movie adaptation of a novel.
Pity they didn't as faithfully adapt Without Remorse which is my favourite Tom Clancy book. That recent "adaption" was utter shite. Even Patriot Games which is probably the next as faithful to the book is quite different. I don't understand why don't keep to as close to the book as possible, Tom Clancy's books sold millions of copies. Sure you can't fit everything in but at least keep the core the same.
Uh...
Lord of the Rings?
Glory?
Henry V? (Kenneth Brannagh version)
Black Hawk Down?
Gettysburg? (based on Pulitzer Prize "The Killer Angels")
The Shawshank Redemption?
Jaws?
Jurassic Park?
Schindler's List?
Silence of the Lambs?
Princess Bride?
The Godfather?
Apollo 13?
The Exorcist?
Election?
HfRO was good but hardly the "best" adaptation.
Drinker's so right, Jack Ryan was never a Rambo-like action hero from Zero Dark 30. He was always a history nerd desk jocky who was thrown into extraordinary situations and somehow manages to come out on top. Sure he was in the Marines but his career there was short. He was sort of the "brains" of the situation while surrounded by killer "jocks" like Clark and Chavez. The modern iteration of Jack Ryan is flashy and cool but it seems like just another cookie cutter action character in the vein of Helmsworth from Extraction, or Keanu from John Wick or a Craig from James Bond. Ryan was always the kid with glasses that is the unwitting participant in a fight but with the willpower to somehow always come out on top. Ryan is not John Clark or Chaves who filled the role of cold hard killers. The modern iteration of Ryan are cool and flashy but they're not the real Jack Ryan.
Well said 👍
Spot on. Got really tired out of the newer Clancy stuff because well, it's not Clancy.
Yeah it's what made Ryan so damn relatable. It gave him this "every man" quality that makes it almost seem like any of us could actually do that.
Clark and Chavez were more physical but also very bright. Both are smart enough to become CIA intelligence officers, operating undercover in hostile territory. The movies treat them like dumb grunts though 🤷♂️
I still prefer Harrison Ford
But this did just fine 👌
I picked up this book when I was 15 and promptly watched this ‘dad movie’ as well. Love both!
I still need to read the book. It comes highly praised so I hear.
@@foamigeDo it! I think it’s stronger than the movie, but both are well told.
I remember when the book came out, admirals at the Pentagon wanted to know when this stuff became unclassified.
"Captain! What is it? Where are we going?"
"We're going to kill a friend, Yevgeni..."
“We’re going to kill Ramius.”
"We're going to kill a friend, *Yevgeni... We're going to kill Ramius."
@@EVAUnit4A Fixed, thanks 😊
"You arrogant ass! You've killed us!"
"Kill a friend? Are you still pissed at Sean about Will Hunting!?"
This scene always gets me: "I miss the peace of fishing like when I was a boy. Forty years I've been at sea. A war at sea. A war with no battles, no monuments... only casualties. I widowed her the day I married her. My wife died while I was at sea, you know." What an actor he was... My contributions to the Dads film list: The Right Stuff, Thirteen Days and Sneakers.
Add my Dad's favorite Hoosiers and Nessisary Roughness.
Sneakers, what an underrated film that was too. Food choice. 👌🇦🇺
@@jimmymiddleton1307 sneakers is a fantastic movie. surprised drinker hasn't done a recommend for it.
Also add Crimson Tide, The Taking of Pelham One Two Three and Midnight Run.
@@arizona_anime_fan love sneakers. Super performances from legends
One thing you didn't mention was the absolutely fantastic Basil Poledouris soundtrack.
"Red Route 1" being my absolute favourite track.
"Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please."
I love how Connery absolutely destroys the salisbury steak in one scene, just like he chews up the scenery.
In the scene in the officers mess, Sean ate fried onions so as not to get full as the scene was done several times to get the different angles
“And really, what better movie is there…”
Das Boot
I always liked "The Enemy Below"; it had the same feeling of "fighting because we have to, not because we want to".
Indeed, the 308 minutes uncut edition of DAS BOOT is fantastic. The most realistic submarine movie ever made.
Crimson Tide
Das Boot is more realistic. But The Hunt is far better movie.
More realistic, yes. But not better.
I am a retired military officer, this movie is one of the few that Hollywood produced movies that has ever made that captures the essence of military life and the political backdrop of high level actions.
Saving Private Ryan, another great military movie, something you only watch very few times, because of how surreal it is.
Theodore Scott Glenn, actually was on a 688 for a couple of weeks and patterned his "captain" after the captain of that boat. He said it was a real eye opener because he expected someone yelling and being a hard ass, yet the captain of that 688 was quiet and introspective, but undoubtedly in control at all times.
Because passive sonar, Captains/crews and yelling doesn't go in the "Silent Service" where the motto is "We Hide With Pride".
@@amberslahlize7961 I agree with Saving Private Ryan as a great depiction of Company level combat operations. It was surpurbly done. When I was a company grade officer many aspects fit pretty well. Though I wasn't in the Navy I served on a multi star command that controlled all of Syria and Iraq. I had the privilege of seeing general officers make crazy decisions that would effect thousands... It felt closer to the decisions they had to make in this film than it did Saving Private Ryan. Both great films that are good for the development of young officers.
The Hunt For Red October, Aliens, T2 and Crimson Tide are my go-to movies when I'm wanting to watch some well made movies with great characters and well laid out stories. The 80s and 90s were definitely the golden age of great movies.
Hey, you are me! :-)
@@tommyh5540 We were separated at birth lol 😆.
Crimson tide is the worst submarine movie ever made, imo. Agree with your other pics.
@@poppys3728 not worse than down periscope!
You get a like for HFRO and T2. Both in my top 5 of all time. ✌️🇦🇺
I love this movie!
In my top ten along with the LOTR trilogy, The Dark Knight trilogy, Princess Bride, Star Wars III, IV, V, VI and Dunkirk
The movie was great in large part because it was based on a great book. When I was a professor teaching nuclear strategy at RMC in the early 1990s, Clancy published 'The Sum Of All Fears', and I assigned parts of it as additional reading to my students. Then I wrote Clancy a letter and told him about it - and I got a letter back from him. The part that I liked best about his reply was, "It took me one book to set up a situation where a nuclear terrorist attack could lead to World War Three, but four books to put Ryan in a place where he might be able to stop it." Man, that guy was one hell of a writer.
Oh, he knew his stuff all right - and his cooperation with Larry Bond was very good as well.
“I would have liked to have seen Montana.”
* cue the Event Horizon scream.
Sam Neil gets killed about as much as Sean Bean.
@@benjaminperez7328 No not Hanna Montana, the state.
And he would see Montana! Lots of it too, just a few years later. That’s why it was said you’d never get him OUT of Montana!
LOL!!! Montana, the one place that looks like Russia.... XD
I remember when this came out, and all of the humourless scolds were complaining that the only women in it were Sally Ryan, Jack's six-year-old daughter, a nameless stewardess, and Dr. Beverly Crusher as "Missus Ryan" (who for some reason had a British accent, despite her canonically being American). And that complaint lasted for about eight minutes after the movie came about, because it kicked nineteen kinds of ass. Alec Baldwin may have become a freak, but he was fantastic in this movie, and really sold the Jack Ryan part. And as for Connery's performance...well, if you visit SmarterEveryDay and watch the video Destin shot aboard the USS TOLEDO, you'll see that in the crew's mess, they have a photo of Connery as Captain Marko Ramius on the wall. High praise. And of course a spectacular score by Basil "Conan The Barbarian" Poledouris, with an opening hymn that everyone thinks is Russian, and that even the Russians have performed.
Damn. A Russian song in a US movie they liked so much that they take it as their own...high praise there.
Alec Baldwin = Jack Ryan.
Accept no substitutes
I give Alec Baldwin a pass nowadays dues to his excellent work in this movie and in Beetlejuice.
iirc in the film canon at least, Sally has spent most her whole life growing up in England, with English friends and an English nanny, so it does make sense she has an English accent.
@@PHDiaz-vv7yo I think Harrison Ford was quite passable in Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger...both also great repeat viewing.
Another example of John McTiernan's excellent directing. He made a great, thrilling movie out of a book that should be really difficult to make into a good movie. And all that before CGI and overuse of green screens. The boat you see surfaced in the movie is a full size (ish) mock up of a Soviet Typhoon-class submarine built from barges. Bridges of the Red October and the Dallas were build on gimbals so that they can show tilting properly. The evacuation at the end was really filmed at sea. Emergency surface of the Dallas is an actual nuclear submarine doing the maneuver. And the frigate at the end is USS Reuben James, which seem fitting since that ship had a major role in another Tom Clancy's book.
Oh, and the music. Absolutely fantastic music, probably one of the most memorable scores from that era.
He had a helluva run with Predator, Die Hard, Red October. He should've been given a James Bond project around that time.
The music was composed by Basil Poledouris, was it not?
@@TheBetabox Yes.
A dad’s movie?!
I’m 19 and I even think this is a solid submarine movie with amazing tension and fantastic performances from Connery and Baldwin
A MASTERPIECE!!!
I was a sonar technician in the USN for 8 years, this film is what inspired me to join the navy. I served on the USS Salt Lake City (SSN-716) stationed at Sub Base Point Loma in San Diego for 3 years, and to my surprise, it was the ship that Scott Glenn rode on to prepare for the movie (the sub that's shown breaching during the emergency blow is also actually the Salt Lake City, and not the Dallas). There was a photo of him with the crew hanging in the wardroom. Shortly before I changed commands, we had Matthew McConaughey and Bill Paxton tour the boat in preparation for U-571. My Chief got to have lunch with them, and even had Paxton say "GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER!" into a microcassette recorder, which he would of course play over the ship's intercom all the time while we were underway. Around that same time, R. Lee Ermey filmed a submarine-themed episode of the show "Mail Call" on board as well. By pure chance, we happened to be the only sub in port whenever Hollywood needed a boat to tour.
Cool story!
Find that tape, sailor! This world needs to hear live Paxton / PVT Hudson..!! I'd use that as a ringtone for my ex wife!
That story is worth a few beers.
@@trenauldo I have no idea what ever became of it, this was back in the early 2000's and I got out shortly after. Haven't seen any of the people I served with in over 20 years.
@GC Who's that?
Probably the most 'techno thriller' amongst Jack Ryan movie series. Really love how it delve about the technical stuff.
When the novel was first published, Tom was followed around everywhere by 'undercovers' from National Security, the FBI, CIA etc., all wanting to know where he got his ultra-classified information (about the BQQ688 sonar suite for example). When he was hauled in and questioned, he merely replied "various sources, public access". Naturally they didn't believe him so he brought them into a library - yes, LIBRARY - and showed them a ton of books - yes BOOKS - about teckky submarine stuff (including the BQQ688). Fun, innit?
@@daveroche6522 Lmao that's an amusing trivia. Really show the depth of research Tom do to make his novel
@@daveroche6522 yep, I'm old enough to remember it. Ronald Reagan was a huge fan, and the military/intelligence agencies all had a collective heart attack when that book was published, thinking a lot of data was leaked from somewhere.
I'm reminded of something from the Day of the Jackal, written by Frederick Forsyth. It's no longer possible to do this now because everything is linked by computers, but the Jackal creates a new identity from searching a cemetery for someone who died in their infancy, and then applying for a copy of their birth certificate, from which he could get a legitimate passport and any identity documents he required.
Such a thing was possible and very easy to do up in the UK until the 2000s at least, and the police in the novel manage to track down the identity only by painstakingly going through all birth certificates by hand, and then matching them with death certificates, again by hand, for someone of the Jackal's age range, and then matching those with names on passports that had travelled abroad in the previous few weeks. It's surprising that Forsyth was allowed to openly write about it, you could easily create a fake identity from a real person with the same method when the novel was published and for the next couple of decades.
Another uboat movie I remember enjoying was : "Crimson Tide" - I have not rewatched it in years, but I remember enjoying it "back then".
Yeah that was really good too
For me it was The Bedford Incident sub and sub hunter film starring Richard Widmark and Sidney Poitier. The director used the same pull the rug from under you mechanism as Robert Wise's The Haunting where one person is alternately angry then calm against the other person who is working in opposition which helps put you on edge then there are other things which break into that situation and take it somewhere else. It also had an ending which Hollywood would not have happen now in that in The Bedford Incident no-one wins in a nuclear skirmish.
It's a shame theys don't make movies like that anymore.
Instead nowadays movie makers treat the audience as if they where 12 year old kids and everyone in the movies acting like that too.
Nah - when we were twelve we didn't have to be told what was 'funny', what was 'right', what was 'wrong', what was 'acceptable' etc. Thanks to a good brain diet comprising of a good childhood, proper learning, a decent school library, generous dollops of Mad Magazine, Alistair McClean and Monty Python (also Halls Pictorial Weekly* if in Ireland), most of us ended up reasonably ok and can/do appreciate Alan Hansen levels of 'quall-eh'.
*Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/FlpgC7NLei8/v-deo.html
At least we don't have to worry about somebody trying to remake/reboot this one. I don't think this story could get told today.
Saw this in the theater with my parents when i was 9. Loved it then, so much so I convinced my mom to buy me the book that weekend, which started my love of Tom Clancy. And you know what? Over 30 years later and it's still every bit as good. Solid script, acting, sound track, countless quotable one liners. As much as it's enjoyed, I still think it's underrated.
Other than Connery’s performance, what sets this movie apart is the realism and the subversion that the contrary to all the propaganda, the Russian officer is very competent and he understands what’s going on in his country and wants to be friendly with Americans. He’s not an idiot drinking vodka and looking for his chance to shoot his AK47 at any American he sees. That’s how subversion is done Johnson!
That actually happened a lot in Clancy's novels. When I read the Cardinal of the Kremlin I was surprised with how human and well-rounded the Soviet characters were.
@@franciscoduarteauthor Shocking, the humans came over as human....
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 i made that comment because I read other technothriller authors prior to Clancy, and most had that action movie feel of having the opposite being comprised of cardboard cutouts rarely more than evil for evils sake. Finding an actual good author was a nice change of pace. This was long ago, mind you, I have improved on my sources of books in the meanwhile.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 also, how's your collection, oh overlord?
@@franciscoduarteauthor Ever growing and exquisitely maintained, thank you.
Sean is the only actor who get away with playing a Russian captain with a Scottish accent.
He’s an incredible Egyptian Spaniard Russian by way of Scotland sub commander spy immortal 🤷🏻♂️
"You get Scottish or you get nothing, bitches."
And can even rock a braid, red thong and thigh high boots.
Don't forget that Gerard Butler played a Spartan king with a Scottish accent.
@@The-Real-Blissful-Ignorance Yes he did, but Sean is the only one who can get away with it.😀
Watched it tonight. Firstly, the look of the film is almost exquisite. Every shade, colour and light source has its own skin. The acting was great, and as you mentioned, every single man in it looks like a man, talks like a man, and has the presence of one. Connery, Baldwin, Vance, and the pearly-voiced James Earl Jones and Daniel Davis. Everyone in it had a place, a character and a role. I also thought while watching it, "I miss films like this." The tone, the essence. You simply don't get it now, with today's waxy, digital look. Even the muscular types don't convey the same sense. My fave scene: when Connery silently consider his men singing, and whether or not its a threat to his plan to sneak past the Americans. The camera just holds on his face and we get to go through what he's thinking with a few looks, finally deciding "let them sing!"
"Comrades, we sail into History"
*shail
Don't you mean "Comradsh, we shail into hishtory"?
Favorite quote: "You arrogant ass. You've killed US!"
"I know I told you to speak your mind Jack, but Jesus!"
"Most things in here don't respond well to bullets."
"Like me...I don't respond well to bullets."
"I would have liked to have seen Montana"
One of my favourite movies of all time, well into the top 20, and for that matter one of my favourite books, though not normally a Tom Clancy fan. This was his first published book I believe, and I wish his style had stayed that way. Call it a 'Dad' movie all you like (and I guess I fit right into that target range) it's still fucking great, glaring errors in how submarines actually work and all. Good pick, Drinker!
One of the all time greats...
Best Tom Clancy movie hands down for me.
Yeah, it is the least edited-for-Hollywood of the Tom Clancy properties that they turned into a movie. They got progressively (and I mean that in multiple ways) worse as the years went on.
Clear and Present Danger was also pretty good, though I still agree that Red October sits in a league on its own.
I liked all the Harrison Ford/ Tom Clancy movies... but the opening scene in The Hunt For Red October.. the Fog horns , just send me into another world, like only great great movies can.
@@ecmorgan69 👍💪
I once bought my dad a t-shirt with a big red-and-gold star that read "Ramius Naval Officer Training." The school's motto, of course, is "One Ping Only." He's worn the thing to ribbons but refuses to let my mom throw it out. I struggle to choose a favorite line from the movie. There are dozens to pick from!
I want this shirt. I will probably have to have it custom made, but i want this shirt NAO! Thank you for mentioning it!
I also would love this tshirt.
I think mine will always be: "Most things in here don't react too well to bullets." Meanwhile the screen pans to the veritable forest of nuclear missiles with rows upon rows of vertical launch tubes.
Sean Connery could read a phone book or the ingredient label from a bottle of Worcestershire sauce and I would be captivated. You're right, there are dozens but my favorite would be, "One ping only Vasily, one ping only." 🍸😊👍✨
@@JohnFourtyTwo There are so many quoteable moments in this movie it's unreal. Tim Curry as the political commisar is also golden. Connery: "who said anything about sabotage?" Curry, in total disbelief: "CAPTAIN!!!!"
One of my favorite films of all time. While there's a few technical goofs (portholes on an Aircraft Carrier, really?), there is a wealth of reality in both the film-making and the inspiration for this story. It's a story that's so rich and detailed, it can be enjoyed for a very long time.
Yes, fake magnetically attached portholes to light up at night and resemble a cruise ship from far away.
@@RogueReplicant yep. one of many tricks the USN pulled with carriers in the cold war.
John McTiernan is a legend. Predator, then Die Hard, then Hunt for Red October.
Last Action Here?
HERO. Sorry, autocorrect BS.
@@Garrus1995 I’m surprised whatever leftist tech company supplies your autocorrect didn’t change it into “heroine”.
Not accusing you of being leftist, just all big tech companies are leftist
Good story...lots of professional actors...great movie. Obviously the stars are fantastic...but Tim Curry, Courtney B Vance, Joss Ackland, Fred Thompson, Jeffrey Jones, it's just professional actor after professional actor doing good work. Should do Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy soon...another great movie with professionals all over the cast.
"That talk and act like actual adult men instead of whiney, hyperactive children inhabiting male bodies"
"You get Scottish or you get nothing".
Hahahahahahaha!
You're like a 21st century Robert Burns.
This and crimson tide are what I call submarine movies. Submerge the boat!
Das Boot...
@@Astorath_the_Grim The classic.
Don't forget Down Periscope
@@Astorath_the_Grim without a doubt the best submarine movie ever.
U-571 was a decent flick too.
This movie taught me that there are three types of Russians: white Russians, black Russians and Scottish Russians.
Go! Shave yourshelvesh!
Why did I all of a sudden become very thirsty?
The black guy was part of the US Navy crew that went to the Russian sub.
You're referring to cocktails, right?
I remember first seeing this on the big screen in the latter days of the Cold War, before anyone saw the impending collapse of the USSR. It’s hard to recapture the sense of Cold War paranoia that was ever-present in those days. This movie leaned into that, but has continued to endure in its absence as a great film and reminder of those days. It’s also a reminder of how great movies used to be made.
@GC Having lived through it as a kid, I'd take it again, over this Woke War nonsense we've got now.
_I remember first seeing this on the big screen in the latter days of the Cold War, before anyone saw the impending collapse of the USSR._
The film was released March 2, 1990. The Berlin Wall had fallen four months earlier.
The fall of the Wall was a clear sign the old Soviet Union was in its last days.
@@primmakinsofis614 Fair enough, but the fall of the Wall, while being a significant event on the world stage, was at that time no clear sign to many of us who were young and for whom a world without the Soviet threat was almost inconceivable. Looking back it was a clear sign of imminent collapse of the USSR, but at the time it was merely a sign of the softening of Soviet authoritarianism as a result of Reagan’s “cowboy” diplomacy. The Wall came down November 9, 1989, but the Soviet Union didn’t crumble until the abortive coup in August of 1991. The fall of the Wall, the INF Treaty of 1987, and other events were hopeful signs of an eventual peaceful coexistence between the East and the West, but the threat of mutually assured nuclear destruction was still ever present at the time of the release of this movie. At the time, the events depicted in this movie felt very real.
growing up during the cold war was a trip.
Another nicely done film critique! Yeah, I disagree that "The Hunt for Red October" is simply a "Dads' Film", as my brother & I first saw this masterpiece when we were kids, loved it, and we've re-watched "Red October" countless times since 1990. It's. Just. That. Frickin'. GOOD!!
I miss characters who struggle and learn on the way of their hero's story. Today (almost) every fucking character is so badass, is never afraid and so cool. Booooring
Jack Ryan is a desk jocky, that is the whole point of the character, something the new show/movie have missed, Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave
Original Ryan was a Marine as a young man, so he's not completely clueless, but he's definitely more of an analyst type guy.
Hollywood did it to Sherlock Holmes too. Don't think just watch the bangs.
The new show did it very well in the first 3-4 episode, imo. Then it was like they forgot he's that type of person.
He's a guy who, as most real heroes tend to do, gets forced into a hero's role from circumstance. From being dropped into a sub in Red October, to fighting for his family's life in Patriot Games.
Even at 30+ years, Red October is still my favorite submarine movie. Acting, story and even musical score are outstanding. This movie is another reason why I'd rather watch great classic movies over the garbage that is spewing out of Hollywood these days.
Ditto
Yep, we're lucky that even if we get fed garbage movies in modernism, there is still a massive treasure trove of old movies we can flip on at night instead.
This is one of my favourite movies of all time, and quite possibly I've (without planning to) seen it more times than any other movie. It's just so good, it holds up to repeat viewings 100%. I loved it in my teens (I was 12 when it came out, I probably saw it on TV the first time around age 15?), and I still love it in my 40s :-)
Lol same. Read the book when I was 12 (now 38), and have probably watched this movie more than any other with only a few possible exceptions. The tension, acting, and situation dynamics speak volumes about the quality of directing, and in some ways I think this is the only Tom Clancy movie adaptation that is better than the book.
"Well, you should be. Personally, I'd give us one chance in three" **chews food frantically**
Man John Mctiernan was an amazing director, truly phenomenal. I miss him
@bootfan !! No but he's not likely to make any more movies anytime soon. Hollywood has pretty much spat him out after his conviction and jail time. It's sad because he's directed some amazing movies in the '80s and '90s.
@@Astfgl They lied about me.
@@Astfgl he has a movie in production. Tau ceti four
What was he convicted of?
@@simmosmithson234 - 2 counts of lying to the FBI, 1 count of perjury, and for hiring a private investigator to illegally wiretap a producer he disagreed with.