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I have checked everywhere for the specs of this engine, your app, the transcript, your website. Where’s the specs? Not even if it’s hyd or solid?! Cmon, you’ve got to do better than that
The late Bob Glidden, a Ford legend in his own right, once said that an engine doesn’t know what name is on the valve covers, it only knows how well it can work. The skills shown here exemplify that thought!
Woudnt say it exemplifies it, your are almost implying a Ford, or a 429/460 won’t make power, when those that know, know it usually makes the most power
Seriously tho, heres a good Ford vs Chevy throwdown, I honestly love both but power nation obviously gives chevy a distinct advantage everytime they do a "equal" comparison, it was nice to see Kaase show that with less cubes he can still beat Pat's chevy
chevy,go to speed shop...ford dodge,,go to junk yard,all the bits are there..only 2 good engines chev built are the ''isuzu'' 6.6,,& the LS3..not much else in there yard..to make a 351c go,all you need is an rv cam,302c heads,job done...a 460 will rev std to 7k,,a chev wont..
@@phantomwalker8251 And what is a 302C head? Are you confusing the 351 cleveland heads with 302 boss heads?... Remember that the lingo often gets twisted around b4 being passed down. Just for the record..... The 221 thru the 302 were from the 'fairlane' engine family .oft times these small blocks were termed Windsors because, as was the the place of manufacture, they were made in Windsor, ont , canada. Where there needs to be any difference in terminology it's the 3 351 cubers. There were the Windsor ( the BIGGEST Windsor built Wedge ), The famous Clevelands.. ( 351 C 2 & 4 venturi- or barrel- and then there was the Boss 351. The LT1 killer. You could also bury mopar 340s as well ). The 'Last' C motor is, as Rich from Westech said, a 400 cid Cleveland 'Tall deck stroker'. Though it is termined M ( for Modified- meaning it uses a 351 W crank in the 400 C block Where you need to be specific, actually, is to forget calling the 400 an 'M'. That distinction actually denotes a recast 351C for the 351W crank ) And to add further confusion, the 351C uses either the C4 or FMX auto trans or the small block top loader 4 gear. The M family uses a 429/460 C6- or big block auto trans and the corresponding big block Top loader . Unlike many OTHER mice and rats, there are some cases where 335 (cleveland) 385 series big blocks ( ALL 429's AND the boss 9 & the 460's) had interchangable parts. So, B4 you knock 'em KNOW 'em....
@@XA351GT so as to convert the the faurlane-302-vlock the 'C' heads dry seck configuration A ceranic ciated coated coated calley oan here wiyld be brilliant as an air gao intake. B.
Great video! I'm a ford guy but, competition is good for everyone! An GM guy's do have great builders and engines. John Kassie is a great builder and competitor. He said it himself be humble while your on top. You can be in the dumpster next week. God bless you all!
One of the most innovative old hot rodders is Kaase. He's probably forgotten more than most Ford guys know. Having built several 460's in the day, I was waiting for this video! Those heads look awesome with the very generous ports, careful radius in the bowl area, and fast-burn combustion chambers. I didn't have anything like that to work with....DOVE-C CJ heads. I Devcon-F filled the dead area in the exhausts and ported the exhausts to lead the flow upward.....by the time I was done I was standing in a pile of shavings "knee-deep"....cleaning the bowl area and 3-angling the valves really helped bottom end. My engines were either towing or street and didn't have to turn the rpms that these are capable of with all the trick components. Good video....Horsepower doesn't know the name of the engine....just the ability to flow. Those cam lobes in this engine looked like Mt. Everest.
@@413x398 You're correct....I wonder what the heads were....it was 40+ years ago...I must be getting senile....thanks for correcting me. Keep the Faith.
Jon is one of the nicest guys. I can remember calling him about his products and he steered me in the right direction. Not too many people running a business as big as his would take the time out to do that. I would love for my old man to meet him some day, he would totally geek out in his shop!
John and his team are God’s amongst men they truly are. So low key and laid back yet so much knowledge and attention to details that other manufacturers just don’t care about. Those st71s with the stock exhaust location are amazing. Any ford lover can fit a set to their car and bolt the old headers right up. Just genius.
I went to the Gatornationals back in 1977. Dyno Don was putting down some serious HP in his Yellow, Red and Blue Mustang II. I told my buddy that I think he can win the whole thing that year and give Glidden a run for his money. Jon Kaase was his main wrench that year and Dyno Don Nicholson got not only the Wally for the Gators that year, but the Pro Stock championship too. A few years ago, Stacey David built a 67 Cougar and when he revealed that Boss 9 by Jon Kaase, my ears perked up and I was like Hell yeah Kaase is da Man for bringing back the Boss 429.
@@chadkent1241, he's built several of those too. Jon Kasse has a complete Cammer engine he sells as well. It's $55k but if it's a Kasse engine, it's probably worth it.
My shop is just down the street on Hwy 29. We have been in Winder for 19 years. I have done biz with Jon and his gang on several occasions, They are a nice bunch to deal with. When you see Jon around town and talk with him only then do you understand why they are at the top of the game. True gentleman and always willing to help the little guys get the ford stuff that makes POWER! My hat is of to Jon and his guys, and thanks for the help you have afforded me and my shop.Tim Bolt Master Tech Auto
I built my 545 With Kasse heads. I used a Howards .800 lift solid roller cam. Jon was nice enough to help me figure the correct push rod to use. Have not raced it yet but it's in my Ranger Project truck.
Mr. Jon Kasse is such a nice person and makes great products. I bought products and have never been disaplointed since late 1980's.. ...And another engine guru down in So Cal, Mr. Mark Kaufmann, also one heck of a great person., and fantadtic engineer. These guys literally would get on the phone and talk with me , and give me pointers and help, when I was a 20 year old kid, and I am not rich, not a huge buyer , just a regular average person..basically a nobody and they spent time with and even remembered me 15 years later!! That is beyond customer service ..True Gentlemen. I wish them all the best always.
I dont know what's more amazing...the fact that these guys can build a 1100hp NA carburated big block Ford that can be driven daily, or a 600hp NA k-series that runs 8s in a fwd chassis. 🤷♂️🤯🤯
Nothing like following a torque sequence. "35 then 75 then 100 Ft/Lb" for example. You are literally stretching the stud/bolt with ease. Amazing feeling. I mark every bolt with different color after applying that torque number twice.. So far, so good all my engines are still running. Jon Kaase's shop is world class no doubt. Awesome program, thanks.
I was lucky enough to meet Jon when he was working for Dyno Don the year he won the Pro-Stock Championship. a mutual friend of Dyno and my Dad had brought Dyno to my dad's shop in the home garage. He was looking for someone who could make a stud girdle for one of his 500 CI Can-Am match race motors. So as 14 YO kid I was crossing the driveway and my Dad called out to me to come in, My dad was there talking to his friend Dink and another gentleman . My Dad asked if I knew who he was I said no and said this is Dyno Don Nicholson. Now I knew the name as I read Hot Rod faithfully every month . The problem was you almost b=never saw his face as he was always leaning over a engine. My dad wound up machining the girdle from a billet of Aluminum that Dyno shipped up. When it was done he asked my dad how much , my Dad said he just wanted the challenge of seeing if he could do it. Mind you this was 1976 or 77 and he was using all manual machines just a bridegport and lathe. So Dyno asked us to be his guests at the Summer nationals in Englishtown NJ . That is where I met Jon who , it was just He and Don with some help from Dink that did all the work on the car between rounds . There were no big crews back then , No huge haulers just a truck and trailer .
It has to stay together, not like an engine that runs 4-5 seconds at a time! That tall deck block let's you get a longer rod in it. 50 people will disagree, 40 don't even know what the rod stroke ratio is! Anybody can build a motor to run 4 seconds and back off!
WE, the secret word when working with the guys upstairs, my last 18 years of work was with 1 of these rare people who always refered to us employees as WE, (Ft. Worth, Texas ) Thank you Sir
Fords are not cheaper to build up front but in the long run they are, you will rebuild a Chevy race motor 2 1/2 times to 0ne on the ford.... I know I've been in it for years?
John Kasse is a genius. I think he could make any engine perform, but he does real good with Fords. I am a fan of the 385 series Ford Big Block. I believe it may be one of the best ever built in the USA.
I believe you with working on the airplanes. I worked on the F-14 while in the navy and I loved It. Nothing like standing next to the monster while on the cat getting to be launched, in zone-5 afterburner. Man, Once you have experienced that, you know what POWER is.
@@bigboreracing356 You mean like how Chevy guys always use Ford 9" inch rear ends in their race cars because Chevy rear ends don't hold up as well, lol. I love Chevy and Ford the same, so I don't care if certain engine parts are used from other car companies to make the motor run better.
@@bigboreracing356 Stronger? You're smoking something. We used to run a C/SA '92 Pontiac. Bought the special upgraded GM rear housing for it, it came apart after 3 years, the pumpkin split clear thru. That was a $2000 dollar rear end.
@@bigboreracing356 There is NO sense paying extra money for R+D when what you need is already made. I think your parents had a brain fart and it lives today.
Great to see the Ford with non ported heads with smaller displacement do the job. No porting no Jesel or T&D rockers no stud girdle. (NICE) Great job thank you.
@@luther250F The point being that ported as cast is going to flow and perform like a ported head and probably won’t benefit much if any from further porting.
As a Ford man at heart I really liked this video I-10 stock car races Saturday night where we race open-wheel big block modifieds mostly Chevrolets I would love one of these Kaase Big Blocks to take on the big block modifieds on a half mile dirt track and add some new excitement to modern-day dirt track racing. Thank You
I have a good friend Tony. That has one of your motors recently built for his drag car. And he cant do any thing but brag about how good it is.. seems like i herd him say he problems getting it put together. I cant honestly recall what he said. Except that he called the shop .and the guys there were very helpfull.and got him going in the right direction .what ever it was .he bragged on johns shop at help full they were. Gotta love a humble man that knows what he's capable of .and keeps it in ck. johns shop seems to be the very definition of the word . He's living his dream doing what he loves. No matter how many hours of work he puts in .I bet he tell ya he never worked a hard day doing it . Would love to hang around and pick his brain for knowledge. When guys like him are gone .we not only lose a good man .we lose all the knowledge he had as well. His employees seem to be in love with there job as much as he is. Thats extremely rare now days. The man's extremely blessed. And it shows in the work and products they produce. Awesome job guys!! Keep it up
The fact IS we guys in USA in all the planet, Only in USA, are WAAYYY blessed to be able to have this type of machinery and wisdom available to us like he has done. Being I’m a Pontiac fan and Ford second choice, this is really well thought out creation. Impressive from the collective research on all aspects to the machining design that looks quite sensible in any future service. And I Still wish that GM would have put the distributor in the Front of the engine like Ford did, where we spend fair amount of time tinkering on. Anyway I’m definitely impressed with their entire setups and accomplishments.
Humility is a attribute that is sorely like in some and in other it's just false humility but with this guy you could actually see the honesty in his face when he used the word team I love that.👍👍👍
John kasse love you man you are my engine hero. Ever since I saw you at a engine shoot out and one of my friends met you he bought some engines from you I have a deep appreciation and respect for you my dad and I raced when back in the day before street racing and liquor hauling was illegal so I know a few things about engines being a Georgia boy myself. When I come from Augusta one day I hope to meet y'all guys. I hope one day I can get an engine kit and build something to be proud of. Peace
John Kaase is a true innovator & all around terrific person. I have so much respect for him. One heck of a down to earth fellow also. Not many left like John.
Hey, love the video and content, also love the fact that Jon and his crew have been successful competitors in engine building competition for years as well as the fact that he was under the tutelage of one of the masters himself Dyno Don. Magnificent work ethic and products from his team and company express the end product of dedication and determination from all parties from a top down approach starting with Jon himself, as for Pat and his conclusive comparison of the Ford barely edging out the Chevy, I think that he needs to get a new calculator and have it calibrated to real world standards, in other words when your beat by a really good margin your beat hands down!!!!!!!!!
1/2 a Liter+ more displacement and 15:1 compression ratio = 86 LESS HP and 108 lb-ft LESS Torque. I don't think Pat should have mentioned his 632 Chevy....lol
@@mikehaslett3738 Pat is who brought up the (unfair) comparison...not me. Besides...that BBC's 15:1 is a diesel CR If it couldn't make more torque with that CR and 34 more cubes...good bye!
I'm buying one of these monsters As soon as I win the lottery Thanks for all the comments and suggestions but I was" Tongue in cheek " wanting to say I bought a Jon Kasse motor
Ok snowflake, maybe if you haven't noticed, that engine combo will not cost that much less then 30k or so. Another non car person in the comments section. Clueless sheep
I built a 429 .40 over flat top mahl forged pistons and double roller timing chain and a 34-239-11 extreme 4x4 camshaft Lunati valve springs with beehive inserts and had the whole lower end balanced and lightened had the block decked .40 thou and ported some junk heads and through a zf 5speed and transfer case and 9 inch rear with a 35 inch tire made 498hp5100 566tq 3950rpm and it only cost about 6 grand but I used all arp hardware and oil drive and new intake and fuel pump and 780 CFM double pumper carb and stainless 2inch primary headers you could just do pistons cam headers and bearings and make 400+hp for like 2 grand
Non car person and troll account. It less then 50 k even the engine you can buy in parts so why would you get a shop to build your car or engine . Clueless
@@maximusvonce1381 clueless I'm a mechanic in my mid 30's now I've put many engine's together still running till this day . And most people couldn't afford to go to a real shop to get the car built or the engine rebuilt and all . The machining and ( engine dyno ) test after. You'd be looking at hundreds of thousands
@@_i-kr6eg Why would a troll say something positive about a video subject? Sure, I could build an engine myself and have in the past but if I win the lottery, why wouldn't I have two of the best build one for me. Troll...that's rich.
I heard about the SR-71 heads on "Stacey David's GearZ TV". Stacey David also used the " BOSS 9" engine in his "V8 interceptor" project, A 1967 Mercury cougar!
I've been meaning to ask for one of these in the comments section for a month or two, so I was super excited to see this pop up in my notifications while I was looking at my Fadal and not my phone at work.
1108 Hp. 598 CI. and stock style 460 heads, not the Boss 9 heads. 34 Cubes smaller then the BBC, and still stomped it's AZZ!!! You can tell Pat's paycheck comes through Mother Chevrolet.
That is bad ass ! Man I would love to work there I miss building engines and hanging out with gear heads. Here in Elko nv everybody just wants to be left alone
After Jon is done with the engine, there isn't much MEL left in it. Been a long time since I saw an old Lincoln engine like that.....gosh, I must be old....Jon is an old geez like myself. Has been one of my "heroes" for a long time.....an old hotrodder made good. In that little bald head is a computer full of all the engine mods he's made over the years....... He's probably forgotten more than most guys will ever know. His big 460's should come in a big jewelry box. I'd be honored just to sweep the floors in Jon's shop if I could watch these things come together!
I ran n2 a guy here where I live that had a set of those p51s on a 429 cobra jet 70 Torino and I'd just watched this and I seen them and well I had a wonderful conversation with the owner about this guy and his heads and he told me that no one has ever known what the heads were and where they came from wow I feel privileged
How is it that when a BBC with 34 more cubes makes 80 HP less its stated that it was just edged out? Seriously I love the work and the show but 80HP with less cubes is superior not just edging out.
Apples and oranges. Love the BBC (compact, good oiling system) but the stock 460 block has big bores and a lot of metal in the bottom end. Both are great engines.
My statement never said that the BBC isn’t a great engine. It stated that this builders bias is plainly obvious. A while back they did a BB comparison and stated that the BBC was the better engine when in fact it had a bigger cam and heads. If shows proclaim to be a power nation then call a spade a spade. Yes I am a fan of all things motor sports to street racer who is obviously a chev fan which is fine. My best friend is a die hard bow tie man and we are still best friends.
Yep 100 % true . The Chevy was a 632 & made just over 1000 hp around the 1030 hp mark @ 15.1 comp. And in the high 800 ft lbs The Ford was a 598 & made 1108 & 935 ft lbs Don't know the Comp . Smashed the Chevy 2 Bits . That's the difference between a good engine builder & an Engine Builder who knows Combination's. Wouldn't u just hate 2 own the 632 Chevy , l know l would . Reasons down on power across the board & once u go over 598 cu inches the cost of the Engine goes north big time ⏲️
@@jamiegreenwood7996 please, the Ford got way better parts,I am both a Chevy man and a Ford man,they didn't fool me Kasse heads in that Ford were way superior to what the 632 had on it!
noticed the 71 roadrunner pic on that builders wall. I’m always astonished by the choice of builders vehicle and Chrysler, for some reason, seems to be it. I’m an engine builder and also have a affection for Mopar.
34 less cubes, less compression, aluminum high flow heads on both and still made significantly more power. Chev boys will still find a way to say but, but, but.
One of the things I really like about shows like this, was the offhand remark, that this was an SVO block, which begs the question: what is the difference between an SVO block and a normal OEM block? Question 2: how far can (or should) you take an OEM block before an SVO block is the better choice? Thanks for the input!
Bro u can't see the difference from a factory block to a after market one. 4 bolt mains. Alot thicker everywhere. More meat in the cylinder bored. It's hell of a lot stronger everywhere.
Besides strength improvements from the aftermarket blocks, the SVO provides a larger bore diameter allowing the bore and stroke combo to reach the displacement that the factory block is not able to reach.
I have a short cut for Kasse in my bookmarks he is a incredible builder the only thing is he builds so many killer engines it's near impossible to pick one. like do you get a 429 or for his it's a 600 or a standard big block or anything between his web sight is like a candy store for me .
Was talking with a guy who built a JK BBF. He was racing at Beaver Springs, PA. The engine was in a Fairmont. The car was running 8's. Finally, he took the hood off. and we saw the engine. They were the older JK heads. The owner/builder said he built the engine himself, it dynode at 870 hp. And it ran as if it had that many horses. He said he wanted the new BBF heads but did not have the money to purchase yet!
Jon Kasse is like the Elon Musk of internal combustion engines. Namely BBF’s… His stuff is the best, because it proves itself time and time again. Hell yeah! 👍🏻🤘🏻✊🏻
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Will you tell me what the compression ratio is on the ford?
I have checked everywhere for the specs of this engine, your app, the transcript, your website. Where’s the specs? Not even if it’s hyd or solid?! Cmon, you’ve got to do better than that
@@dorsk84 I think UA-cam decides what the adverts are. Give them shit!
@@nathan2483 Clearly says...and shows...solid roller lifters. Not to mention most of the other specs.
Not a Ford guy but Kaase is a legend. One of those guys that when he talks; you listen.
Absolutely , J Kase has so much experience n knowledge you must pay attention n listen to every word!
@@floydrhodesiv5733 wish he could build a 426 hemi. Mopar or no car..
The late Bob Glidden, a Ford legend in his own right, once said that an engine doesn’t know what name is on the valve covers, it only knows how well it can work.
The skills shown here exemplify that thought!
Woudnt say it exemplifies it, your are almost implying a Ford, or a 429/460 won’t make power, when those that know, know it usually makes the most power
@nitrolx there is still time to come out of the closet.
I could listen to Kaase talk all day honestly
This is the new frieburger now that motor trends agreed has gone to their heads
Micheal Popplewell I agree, a ton of knowledge and experience behind that voice.
Seriously tho, heres a good Ford vs Chevy throwdown, I honestly love both but power nation obviously gives chevy a distinct advantage everytime they do a "equal" comparison, it was nice to see Kaase show that with less cubes he can still beat Pat's chevy
chevy,go to speed shop...ford dodge,,go to junk yard,all the bits are there..only 2 good engines chev built are the ''isuzu'' 6.6,,& the LS3..not much else in there yard..to make a 351c go,all you need is an rv cam,302c heads,job done...a 460 will rev std to 7k,,a chev wont..
@@phantomwalker8251 And what is a 302C head?
Are you confusing the 351 cleveland heads with 302 boss heads?...
Remember that the lingo often gets twisted around b4 being passed down.
Just for the record.....
The 221 thru the 302 were from the 'fairlane' engine family .oft times these small blocks were termed Windsors because, as was the the place of manufacture, they were made in Windsor, ont , canada.
Where there needs to be any difference in terminology it's the 3 351 cubers.
There were the Windsor ( the BIGGEST Windsor built Wedge ), The famous Clevelands..
( 351 C 2 & 4 venturi- or barrel- and then there was the Boss 351.
The LT1 killer. You could also bury mopar 340s as well ).
The 'Last' C motor is, as Rich from Westech said, a 400 cid Cleveland 'Tall deck stroker'.
Though it is termined M ( for Modified- meaning it uses a 351 W crank in the 400 C block
Where you need to be specific, actually, is to forget calling the 400 an
'M'.
That distinction actually denotes a recast 351C for the 351W crank )
And to add further confusion, the 351C uses either the C4 or FMX auto trans or the small block top loader 4 gear.
The M family uses a 429/460 C6- or big block auto trans and the corresponding big block
Top loader .
Unlike many OTHER mice and rats, there are some cases where 335 (cleveland) 385 series big blocks ( ALL 429's AND the boss 9 & the 460's) had interchangable parts.
So, B4 you knock 'em KNOW 'em....
@@brianbenson5769 Ford Australia had a 302 based on the Cleveland design. So badically smaller chamber Cleveland heads
@@brianbenson5769 Boss 302 heads are Cleveland heads with the water passages moved to fit the Windsor block
@@XA351GT so as to convert the the faurlane-302-vlock the 'C' heads dry seck configuration
A ceranic ciated coated coated calley oan here wiyld be brilliant as an air gao intake.
B.
When a Ford engine is built by people who love the brand and put in the right parts , and know what they are doing, this is the end product.
Great video! I'm a ford guy but, competition is good for everyone! An GM guy's do have great builders and engines. John Kassie is a great builder and competitor. He said it himself be humble while your on top. You can be in the dumpster next week. God bless you all!
When people say " he's a good ole boy " this what they mean. Love this guy.
Jon Kaase, the Wizard of Ford!
Every time Kaase got screwed on his designs like the 429 SCJ from Ford, he turns the other cheek and resets the bar. Every damn time.
Like Spoon is to Honda.
Or Alpina is to BMW.
Ford should just hire kasse
@@merylpelosi8485did he used to work for ford and designed the 429 scj back in the 1960s? Damn man
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One of the most innovative old hot rodders is Kaase. He's probably forgotten more than most Ford guys know. Having built several 460's in the day, I was waiting for this video! Those heads look awesome with the very generous ports, careful radius in the bowl area, and fast-burn combustion chambers. I didn't have anything like that to work with....DOVE-C CJ heads. I Devcon-F filled the dead area in the exhausts and ported the exhausts to lead the flow upward.....by the time I was done I was standing in a pile of shavings "knee-deep"....cleaning the bowl area and 3-angling the valves really helped bottom end. My engines were either towing or street and didn't have to turn the rpms that these are capable of with all the trick components. Good video....Horsepower doesn't know the name of the engine....just the ability to flow. Those cam lobes in this engine looked like Mt. Everest.
@Tom Nekuda D0VE-C heads are standard port heads, not CJ's. You would know this if you actually did any work on 460's.
@@bigboreracing356 Hailing huh...
@@413x398 You're correct....I wonder what the heads were....it was 40+ years ago...I must be getting senile....thanks for correcting me. Keep the Faith.
@@bigboreracing356 Nobody was talking to you, baby troll.
I love John Kaase he is the hot rod king. Giving everyone more horsepower than anyone needs.
Jon is one of the nicest guys. I can remember calling him about his products and he steered me in the right direction. Not too many people running a business as big as his would take the time out to do that. I would love for my old man to meet him some day, he would totally geek out in his shop!
John and his team are God’s amongst men they truly are. So low key and laid back yet so much knowledge and attention to details that other manufacturers just don’t care about. Those st71s with the stock exhaust location are amazing. Any ford lover can fit a set to their car and bolt the old headers right up. Just genius.
I went to the Gatornationals back in 1977. Dyno Don was putting down some serious HP in his Yellow, Red and Blue Mustang II. I told my buddy that I think he can win the whole thing that year and give Glidden a run for his money. Jon Kaase was his main wrench that year and Dyno Don Nicholson got not only the Wally for the Gators that year, but the Pro Stock championship too. A few years ago, Stacey David built a 67 Cougar and when he revealed that Boss 9 by Jon Kaase, my ears perked up and I was like Hell yeah Kaase is da Man for bringing back the Boss 429.
Didn't he run a SOHC then?
@@chadkent1241, he's built several of those too. Jon Kasse has a complete Cammer engine he sells as well. It's $55k but if it's a Kasse engine, it's probably worth it.
My shop is just down the street on Hwy 29. We have been in Winder for 19 years. I have done biz with Jon and his gang on several occasions, They are a nice bunch to deal with. When you see Jon around town and talk with him only then do you understand why they are at the top of the game. True gentleman and always willing to help the little guys get the ford stuff that makes POWER! My hat is of to Jon and his guys, and thanks for the help you have afforded me and my shop.Tim Bolt Master Tech Auto
I built my 545 With Kasse heads. I used a Howards .800 lift solid roller cam. Jon was nice enough to help me figure the correct push rod to use. Have not raced it yet but it's in my Ranger Project truck.
Mr. Jon Kasse is such a nice person and makes great products. I bought products and have never been disaplointed since late 1980's.. ...And another engine guru down in So Cal, Mr. Mark Kaufmann, also one heck of a great person., and fantadtic engineer.
These guys literally would get on the phone and talk with me , and give me pointers and help, when I was a 20 year old kid, and I am not rich, not a huge buyer , just a regular average person..basically a nobody and they spent time with and even remembered me 15 years later!! That is beyond customer service ..True Gentlemen. I wish them all the best always.
Pat: "I built a 632 that pulled 1,080 hp"
Jon: "Much to learn......you still have"
Dandy did over 1000 with big cube Clevor
@@bigboreracing356 the idea is N/A, anyone can make 1000 easy with power adders
@@bigboreracing356 dude, your not getting the point here
@@bigboreracing356 i get your point but its fascinating to see engines like this without induction make these hp numbers
I dont know what's more amazing...the fact that these guys can build a 1100hp NA carburated big block Ford that can be driven daily, or a 600hp NA k-series that runs 8s in a fwd chassis. 🤷♂️🤯🤯
Jon Kaase is a god and his crew is legendary, phenomenal craftsmanship and dedication
Ill take that over a Chrysler hemi any day!Best Ford engine shop in the world!
Annnnnd, you'll have it tomorrow too! BBF=legendary stoutness, even hotrodding a lot of stock parts. Try leaving a stock crank in a BBC
Barely edge out the Chevy? It pistol whipped it with 34 less ci.
And way less compression.
GM will have to ask for more yearly corporate welfare money to beat this one. 👍
and only cost 4-5 times as much!!!
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 we can tell you've never built anything even close this engine or a comparable chevy.
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 do you have invoice to prove it ?
1100 horse power naturally aspirated is actually pretty impressive haha
His dual carb tunnel ram 598” motor with the same heads made 1224hp...also NA
15:1 compression ratio on a huge displacement motor. 1100 is impressive but a bit expected.
@@sepg5084 sure, but that’s depending on what your top end package is, as well as what your camshaft profile looks like.
@@sepg5084 starting to creep inti disel territory
@@sepg5084 The 632 Chevy had 15:1 and made 1022 hp, 821 lbft ..the 598 Ford had 13.5:1 and made 1108 hp, 933 lbft. ..and Pat wasn't very happy.
Nothing like following a torque sequence. "35 then 75 then 100 Ft/Lb" for example. You are literally stretching the stud/bolt with ease. Amazing feeling. I mark every bolt with different color after applying that torque number twice.. So far, so good all my engines are still running. Jon Kaase's shop is world class no doubt. Awesome program, thanks.
I was lucky enough to meet Jon when he was working for Dyno Don the year he won the Pro-Stock Championship. a mutual friend of Dyno and my Dad had brought Dyno to my dad's shop in the home garage. He was looking for someone who could make a stud girdle for one of his 500 CI Can-Am match race motors. So as 14 YO kid I was crossing the driveway and my Dad called out to me to come in, My dad was there talking to his friend Dink and another gentleman . My Dad asked if I knew who he was I said no and said this is Dyno Don Nicholson. Now I knew the name as I read Hot Rod faithfully every month . The problem was you almost b=never saw his face as he was always leaning over a engine. My dad wound up machining the girdle from a billet of Aluminum that Dyno shipped up. When it was done he asked my dad how much , my Dad said he just wanted the challenge of seeing if he could do it. Mind you this was 1976 or 77 and he was using all manual machines just a bridegport and lathe. So Dyno asked us to be his guests at the Summer nationals in Englishtown NJ . That is where I met Jon who , it was just He and Don with some help from Dink that did all the work on the car between rounds . There were no big crews back then , No huge haulers just a truck and trailer .
I had Kaase build me an A-head 598cid a few yrs back. 1107@940 @6900 rpm. Still running it. It'll be going back soon to turn into a pump gas deal.
It has to stay together, not like an engine that runs 4-5 seconds at a time! That tall deck block let's you get a longer rod in it. 50 people will disagree, 40 don't even know what the rod stroke ratio is! Anybody can build a motor to run 4 seconds and back off!
That 632 doesn't want any of that Ford Motor. Kaase will take Chevrolet to school.
His heads are untouchable.
Dave Stephens lol Kaase heads > afr
@Dave Stephens the Chevy had AFR heads @14:38
If they had put sr20 heads on the chevy it would smoke that ford. And the ford heads are not stock. They are custom heads.
The Ford isn't using hi port exhaust like the TFS. It fits in old mustangs and trucks with off the shelf headers. It's not race stuff guys.
WE, the secret word when working with the guys upstairs, my last 18 years of work was with 1 of these rare people who always refered to us employees as WE, (Ft. Worth, Texas ) Thank you Sir
Kaase is definitely a guru no doubt here.
Buddy deserves every bit of success he has! That's exactly how every company should be 🙏🏼🙌
Knew he made some amazing engines and components, didn't know he was such a class act. Thank you for this interview and build.
the intake ports look large enough to throw a entire big block chevy down the intake hole
100% Ford man here.
Ford all day!
Love watching these builder videos. Detailed engine spec's and assembly, very cool. 😎
I've been drooling over those sr-71 heads since they came out a little bit ago
Power nation Chevy build has 34 cubes on it, Kaase can’t be beat 💪💪
Kasse heads for $ (2995) vs afr 385 heads $ (3895), no one should say Chevy is cheaper again.
Ford is cheaper and makes more power period.
😂😂😂 chevy parts on a ford block😱😱😱
@@mrhombregordo9556 lol those rods aren't really chevy either, the numbers just match up.
Fords are not cheaper to build up front but in the long run they are, you will rebuild a Chevy race motor 2 1/2 times to 0ne on the ford.... I know I've been in it for years?
@Dave Stephens its an aftermarket block.
We need to keep that guy around as long as possible.
John Kasse is a genius. I think he could make any engine perform, but he does real good with Fords. I am a fan of the 385 series Ford Big Block. I believe it may be one of the best ever built in the USA.
I believe you with working on the airplanes. I worked on the F-14 while in the navy and I loved It. Nothing like standing next to the monster while on the cat getting to be launched, in zone-5 afterburner. Man, Once you have experienced that, you know what POWER is.
Just out of curiosity, what Carrier were you on?
Its interesting that the chevy guy says, " barely edged out " his chevy, but the ford made 100 foot pounds of torque more. and 100 horsepower more.
Imagine having a smaller engine making more power because it’s a ford
Ford in every shot out all parts being the same make more power per cubic inch than Chevy or mopar. Big block or small block
And this matters why? All I care about is whats on the dyno sheet.
sparkplug1018 ok well the hellcat red eye technically makes less wheel hp then the New GT500 because it has lower quality drivetrain parts
@@bigboreracing356 Yeah then you woke up all wet and sticky.... Amateur.
@@bigboreracing356 You don't know shit...as usual...My mom died the same day I was born, three hours later, complications of child birth...But Thanks!
Ford for the WIN! Be jealous, Chevy guys...be very jealous!😂😂😂
@@bigboreracing356 You mean like how Chevy guys always use Ford 9" inch rear ends in their race cars because Chevy rear ends don't hold up as well, lol. I love Chevy and Ford the same, so I don't care if certain engine parts are used from other car companies to make the motor run better.
@@bigboreracing356 Stronger? You're smoking something. We used to run a C/SA '92 Pontiac. Bought the special upgraded GM rear housing for it, it came apart after 3 years, the pumpkin split clear thru. That was a $2000 dollar rear end.
Um ok sure, but just one question. What exactly are we supposed to be jealous about?
@@bigboreracing356 Only Chevy parts in dimensions.
@@bigboreracing356 There is NO sense paying extra money for R+D when what you need is already made. I think your parents had a brain fart and it lives today.
Jon Kassee is a master when it comes to engine knowledge. 👍👍👍👍👍
Great to see the Ford with non ported heads with smaller displacement do the job. No porting no Jesel or T&D rockers no stud girdle. (NICE) Great job thank you.
Tom, the head they used comes with full race ports as cast.
@@timsharpe3498 are not CNC ported OK.Cast is cast CNC ported is CNC ported.
@@timsharpe3498 yea, these ported can do way more. They call them “ported as cast”. They are indeed not ported.
@@luther250F
The point being that ported as cast is going to flow and perform like a ported head and probably won’t benefit much if any from further porting.
@@timsharpe3498 couldn’t be more wrong.
I like the fact that the owner and the operations manager are out there getting their hands dirty. Small business at its best.
As a Ford man at heart I really liked this video I-10 stock car races Saturday night where we race open-wheel big block modifieds mostly Chevrolets I would love one of these Kaase Big Blocks to take on the big block modifieds on a half mile dirt track and add some new excitement to modern-day dirt track racing. Thank You
"we don't care as much about the airflow as we do about what that needle says on the dyno" true that.
I have a good friend Tony. That has one of your motors recently built for his drag car. And he cant do any thing but brag about how good it is.. seems like i herd him say he problems getting it put together. I cant honestly recall what he said. Except that he called the shop .and the guys there were very helpfull.and got him going in the right direction .what ever it was .he bragged on johns shop at help full they were. Gotta love a humble man that knows what he's capable of .and keeps it in ck. johns shop seems to be the very definition of the word . He's living his dream doing what he loves. No matter how many hours of work he puts in .I bet he tell ya he never worked a hard day doing it . Would love to hang around and pick his brain for knowledge. When guys like him are gone .we not only lose a good man .we lose all the knowledge he had as well. His employees seem to be in love with there job as much as he is. Thats extremely rare now days. The man's extremely blessed. And it shows in the work and products they produce. Awesome job guys!! Keep it up
"It will flow better, and it will make less power."
That's the stuff you cant learn from print, just experience
I thought that's what I'd heard... that's why I came to the comment section...
"The dyno proves it". Where to go from here? Analyze the flow inside the bowl? "Don't mess with it".
Help I’m still confused 😅
The fact IS we guys in USA in all the planet, Only in USA, are WAAYYY blessed to be able to have this type of machinery and wisdom available to us like he has done.
Being I’m a Pontiac fan and Ford second choice, this is really well thought out creation.
Impressive from the collective research on all aspects to the machining design that looks quite sensible in any future service.
And I Still wish that GM would have put the distributor in the Front of the engine like Ford did, where we spend fair amount of time tinkering on.
Anyway I’m definitely impressed with their entire setups and accomplishments.
Humility is a attribute that is sorely like in some and in other it's just false humility but with this guy you could actually see the honesty in his face when he used the word team I love that.👍👍👍
John kasse love you man you are my engine hero. Ever since I saw you at a engine shoot out and one of my friends met you he bought some engines from you I have a deep appreciation and respect for you my dad and I raced when back in the day before street racing and liquor hauling was illegal so I know a few things about engines being a Georgia boy myself. When I come from Augusta one day I hope to meet y'all guys. I hope one day I can get an engine kit and build something to be proud of. Peace
One of the coolest videos I've seen in a long time
John Kaase is a true innovator & all around terrific person. I have so much respect for him. One heck of a down to earth fellow also. Not many left like John.
Hey, love the video and content, also love the fact that Jon and his crew have been successful competitors in engine building competition for years as well as the fact that he was under the tutelage of one of the masters himself Dyno Don. Magnificent work ethic and products from his team and company express the end product of dedication and determination from all parties from a top down approach starting with Jon himself, as for Pat and his conclusive comparison of the Ford barely edging out the Chevy, I think that he needs to get a new calculator and have it calibrated to real world standards, in other words when your beat by a really good margin your beat hands down!!!!!!!!!
The 427 cammer is a jewel !
1/2 a Liter+ more displacement and 15:1 compression ratio = 86 LESS HP and 108 lb-ft LESS Torque. I don't think Pat should have mentioned his 632 Chevy....lol
Why? A 4 digit n/a big block is a bad ass piece. Doesnt matter what name is on the valve cover
@@mikehaslett3738 Pat is who brought up the (unfair) comparison...not me.
Besides...that BBC's 15:1 is a diesel CR
If it couldn't make more torque with that CR and 34 more cubes...good bye!
@@Turbo4Joe363 I'm glad you told that Joe Biden loving gun banning clown off.
What is the compression ration on the Ford?
@@markparker403213.5-1
Jon Kaase’s the man! He's the guy who truely helps keep the Ford Boss hemi motor alive after all these years.
I'm buying one of these monsters
As soon as I win the lottery
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions but I was" Tongue in cheek " wanting to say I bought a Jon Kasse motor
Buy a 460 block. That's the basis of it. And those 460s hold a lot of power.
U don’t need to be rich to buy 460 engines. That part is coughing up 15k to complete lol My guess. Maybe 30k dtk lol
Ok snowflake, maybe if you haven't noticed, that engine combo will not cost that much less then 30k or so. Another non car person in the comments section. Clueless sheep
I built a 429 .40 over flat top mahl forged pistons and double roller timing chain and a 34-239-11 extreme 4x4 camshaft Lunati valve springs with beehive inserts and had the whole lower end balanced and lightened had the block decked .40 thou and ported some junk heads and through a zf 5speed and transfer case and 9 inch rear with a 35 inch tire made 498hp5100 566tq 3950rpm and it only cost about 6 grand but I used all arp hardware and oil drive and new intake and fuel pump and 780 CFM double pumper carb and stainless 2inch primary headers you could just do pistons cam headers and bearings and make 400+hp for like 2 grand
@@joepatenaude3957 we got 4cylinder making that sort of power many moons ago with most stock engines . Even new cars with v8 make that power .
✊ FORD ✊
When I win the lottery, I'm having John Kaase and Doug Yates build me some engines.
Non car person and troll account. It less then 50 k even the engine you can buy in parts so why would you get a shop to build your car or engine . Clueless
You want professionals bldg motor. Not backyard rubes like you.
@@maximusvonce1381 clueless I'm a mechanic in my mid 30's now I've put many engine's together still running till this day . And most people couldn't afford to go to a real shop to get the car built or the engine rebuilt and all . The machining and ( engine dyno ) test after. You'd be looking at hundreds of thousands
@@maximusvonce1381 says the fake account and non car person still at home with your parents I see snowflake kid
@@_i-kr6eg Why would a troll say something positive about a video subject? Sure, I could build an engine myself and have in the past but if I win the lottery, why wouldn't I have two of the best build one for me. Troll...that's rich.
One of the coolest 7 liter plus (7.5 liters!!) engines I've ever seen!!
Uh more like 8.5 or 9 liters as a 427 if I remember is 7 liters and this was 598 cubic inches .
9.8l to be exact
@@fadyalam6712 true, i'm talking based on a 460 (7.5L) Ford BB, but bored & stroked up to that big.
I heard about the SR-71 heads on "Stacey David's GearZ TV". Stacey David also used the " BOSS 9" engine in his "V8 interceptor" project, A 1967 Mercury cougar!
I've been meaning to ask for one of these in the comments section for a month or two, so I was super excited to see this pop up in my notifications while I was looking at my Fadal and not my phone at work.
To all the ppl who talk trash when ppl first assemble with power tools.
John Kaase Racing uses electric drivers
Never did it any other way. Just snug em up and move on to torquing them down. Saves a ton of time.
And regular household silicone
Kaase is a God, & just as humble...
The sound in the car park at the of the day must be fantastic.
Great job, and lots of fun watching the team kick butt. God Bless.
1108 Hp. 598 CI. and stock style 460 heads, not the Boss 9 heads. 34 Cubes smaller then the BBC, and still stomped it's AZZ!!! You can tell Pat's paycheck comes through Mother Chevrolet.
Im not going to lie, I trust the 4 bolt mains more, but Im a Ford guy, so the 429 cobra is a dream.
That is bad ass ! Man I would love to work there I miss building engines and hanging out with gear heads. Here in Elko nv everybody just wants to be left alone
After Jon is done with the engine, there isn't much MEL left in it. Been a long time since I saw an old Lincoln engine like that.....gosh, I must be old....Jon is an old geez like myself. Has been one of my "heroes" for a long time.....an old hotrodder made good. In that little bald head is a computer full of all the engine mods he's made over the years....... He's probably forgotten more than most guys will ever know. His big 460's should come in a big jewelry box. I'd be honored just to sweep the floors in Jon's shop if I could watch these things come together!
That’s amazing, great shop, really knowledgeable crew and amazing leader
I ran n2 a guy here where I live that had a set of those p51s on a 429 cobra jet 70 Torino and I'd just watched this and I seen them and well I had a wonderful conversation with the owner about this guy and his heads and he told me that no one has ever known what the heads were and where they came from wow I feel privileged
How is it that when a BBC with 34 more cubes makes 80 HP less its stated that it was just edged out? Seriously I love the work and the show but 80HP with less cubes is superior not just edging out.
All the extra power comes from those badass cylinder heads. Goes to show that cylinder heads are the most important thing to create awesome power.
Apples and oranges. Love the BBC (compact, good oiling system) but the stock 460 block has big bores and a lot of metal in the bottom end. Both are great engines.
My statement never said that the BBC isn’t a great engine. It stated that this builders bias is plainly obvious. A while back they did a BB comparison and stated that the BBC was the better engine when in fact it had a bigger cam and heads. If shows proclaim to be a power nation then call a spade a spade. Yes I am a fan of all things motor sports to street racer who is obviously a chev fan which is fine. My best friend is a die hard bow tie man and we are still best friends.
Ford engines have always needed less cubic inches to make more power then chevy engines
@@markbulva4188 Well said. My comment was more for the benefit of those who don't understand the design differences between the two engines.
7:34 “next chuck *gently* snugs up the main caps” LOL
I could watch this all day.👍👍👍👍👍
SO awesome. I bet that was fun making this video.
Less cubes and lower compression made more power. ‘Nuff said.🤣
Much better air flow and higher RPM.
People are sleeping on these big block Fords!
@@edim108 - Big Time!🤘🏼
Means more efficient
There was a lot of great info in this video if you pay close attention. Jon is a great engine guru and awesome to talk to. Keep building them.
Barely by almost 100hp! Fords have always made insane HP. Especially the 351 Cleveland.
Not only that it also made almost 100 ft lbs of torque.
And it made a 100 ft lbs more also.
Finally a real engine builder!! Building a P38 427. 10:1 compression should make 700hp n'a. 1000hp with 250 shot.!!
"And barely edged out our Big Block Chevy..."
No, the Kaase engine stomped the Chevy into the dirt with a grave marker.
Yep 100 % true .
The Chevy was a 632 & made just over 1000 hp around the 1030 hp mark @ 15.1 comp. And in the high 800 ft lbs
The Ford was a 598 & made 1108 & 935 ft lbs Don't know the Comp .
Smashed the Chevy 2 Bits .
That's the difference between a good engine builder & an Engine Builder who knows Combination's.
Wouldn't u just hate 2 own the 632 Chevy , l know l would .
Reasons down on power across the board & once u go over 598 cu inches the cost of the Engine goes north big time ⏲️
Loved the episode, Down here in Australia we simply do not have many of these sort of guys with all of that experience and knowledge.
Yeah we do and they all Chevy guys who think they know how to make horse power !
Barely beat the Chevy lol. Crushed the Chevy by far buddy !!
This dude is the man.
I'm a Chevy man but damn those are beautiful heads nice job guys....
I am a Chevy guy but guess what I own a 70 460 motor,and yes I am doing the same build not with a A460 block though!
@@adambrooks2297 because you know who makes the best pushrod haha
hmm chevy man hey?big block ford produced more horse power than chev..with less cubic inches....blue oval man for life
@@jamiegreenwood7996 please, the Ford got way better parts,I am both a Chevy man and a Ford man,they didn't fool me Kasse heads in that Ford were way superior to what the 632 had on it!
@@adambrooks2297 im a ford man for life .....owned lots of chevs in the past they just dont do it for me never will
noticed the 71 roadrunner pic on that builders wall. I’m always astonished by the choice of builders vehicle and Chrysler, for some reason, seems to be it. I’m an engine builder and also have a affection for Mopar.
The Ford had almost 10% more HP!!! Barely edged out you Chevy??? Hahaha sounds like the average Chevrolet guy
Face reality. If Kasse built the Chevrolet engine it would have made more power too.
@@timsharpe3498 facts
@@timsharpe3498 Good point.
Well.... and a $6000 pair of heads haha. Still happy to see Ford sticking it to Chevy.
34 less cubes, less compression, aluminum high flow heads on both and still made significantly more power. Chev boys will still find a way to say but, but, but.
Nice video. I know Jon Kaase and he's as good a guy as you'll ever meet.
Outstanding, the man is "Top Shelf". I'd love to have to have a Jon Kasse engine in anything! (I'm saving my pennys) ...
You better start saving your pay checks Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the things I really like about shows like this, was the offhand remark, that this was an SVO block, which begs the question: what is the difference between an SVO block and a normal OEM block?
Question 2: how far can (or should) you take an OEM
block before an SVO block is the better choice?
Thanks for the input!
Bro u can't see the difference from a factory block to a after market one. 4 bolt mains. Alot thicker everywhere. More meat in the cylinder bored. It's hell of a lot stronger everywhere.
Besides strength improvements from the aftermarket blocks, the SVO provides a larger bore diameter allowing the bore and stroke combo to reach the displacement that the factory block is not able to reach.
Thanks I love big blocks of all types,Ford,Chev,Dodge, cubic inches rules and powernation does it right 👍
I have a short cut for Kasse in my bookmarks he is a incredible builder the only thing is he builds so many killer engines it's near impossible to pick one. like do you get a 429 or for his it's a 600 or a standard big block or anything between his web sight is like a candy store for me .
Was talking with a guy who built a JK BBF. He was racing at Beaver Springs, PA. The engine was in a Fairmont. The car was running 8's. Finally, he took the hood off. and we saw the engine. They were the older JK heads. The owner/builder said he built the engine himself, it dynode at 870 hp. And it ran as if it had that many horses. He said he wanted the new BBF heads but did not have the money to purchase yet!
OMFG YESSS!!!! woohoo! its about time!!
This needs to be in my crown vic.
Ah, the sound of 30,000 dollars.
The website says about 20,500💰💰, still a lot of cheese but if you wanna do it right & can afford it more power 2 you✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
21k isnt thst bad considering what the others are charge.
I'll take 6 and 5 for spares! 😎
Add fuel injection and all the accessories and you are talking $35k
Like that "Low Buck Sport Truck" 😂
Jon Kasse is like the Elon Musk of internal combustion engines.
Namely BBF’s…
His stuff is the best, because it proves itself time and time again.
Hell yeah! 👍🏻🤘🏻✊🏻
That pocket pencil liner sure is cool Mr Narrator.