Great idea ! And not to undercut Ligonier DVD sales but you can use a UA-cam download app to bring it onto your Laptop or Tablet - it helps to have these incredibly helpful videos to show your fellow Christians to gain a proper Reformed Preterist view. There are still SO MANY sensational Rapture Fever preachers out there spinning their webs of 30% Bible 70% Groundless Speculation. I'm a 20 years 'Sober' recovering Dispensational addict, so I can tell you what a breath of fresh air this is ! RC and Dr Ken Gentry were used of God in 1999 to wake me up to this 'hidden reality'. Soli Deo Gloria ! Thanks Ligonier for posting these on UA-cam !
@Shaken not stirred Careful there - that man was & is a servant of the Most High God ! Jesus warned that those who call others fool, without cause, are in danger of hellfire, in Matthew 5:22. Exactly like you just did. You sound like the kind who that warning was addressed to. How will you answer to God on Judgement Day, mr. "shaken not stirred" ?
@@hellosunshine1090 99,9% of preachers are liars and snakes deceiving believers i have no respect for them they dont work for God they work for Satan they support the anti-Christ Jews!
Strangely enough I would listen to these teachings after putting my kids to bed, as company for washing dishes and folding laundry until late at night. I loved to hear the writing on the blackboard it made me memorize the key words .A lot of it had stuck in my head too... it also helped me keep calm as the reality of divorce showed itself night by night there too. Thank you RC. For the calm voice and wise teaching in my time of testing. I gave it all to Jesus.
Ezekiel 13:20 King James Version 20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
@@harrybond007 It's absolute truth my friend not a scare tactic. It's actually the most loving warning you could ever tell someone because it determines where you will spend eternity and it shows a genuine concern for your soul. Jesus is Lord my friend and neighbor! 👑💖💒🙏👆💯🔥
@Spiritual Eyes vs Physical Eyes - Professor Sproul just spent 24 minutes directly addressing why this teaching is false. Go back and listen, and this time with your Bible and your ears open.
This should be the fervent daily hope of every believer. Having become obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed. I'd rather hear the word 24/7 than anything else the world has to offer.
@dennis3651 this might sound crazy, but even when we are someday with the risen living Word, I hope and trust we will still have The Bible in written form for all of eternity. Maybe in glory we'll all know Hebrew Aramaic and Greek in our new bodies and minds.
@gregv79 yes, written form. I wish would use written form these days instead of pulling it up on your cell phone color because I think one should know where the books of the Bible are located because they are in a certain order for a purpose I would think so anyways.
Read your Word hungrily because they will be coming for it soon enough and you'll wish every word was in your heart and mind. Jesus said, blessed is he who hears my word and keeps it in his heart.
mal'ak emeth - This is not only naive, but contrary to the explicit teaching of both Jesus and his apostles, who said quite the opposite. “To the law and the testimony! If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.” This OT principle clearly carries over into the NT: Matt 5:17, etc. Because the work of the Spirit IN us is altogether subjective, the whole point of an inspired text is to provide a uniformly accessible objective basis for what we all believe. For which there is NO substitute. It isn’t either/or. It’s both/and.
I thank you my Lord and savior for saving me .. thank you for taking me out of Hinduism.. I was a Hindu for 35 years and I used to served Hindu idol.. I was brought up to not like Christian and Jesus wasn’t real .. that all changes when I had a very bad experience in my life and I pretended to be a Christian but little do i know God had his own plans for me .. I saw Jesus for the first time in my dreams and in his presence I felt this love I never experienced In my life before.. in my savior presence I felt all my sins was forgiven when I woken up I lift my hands up give my life to Jesus I repent and today my ways and life is change for the better.. I saw Jesus many times after I had a out of body experiences .. I was in Israel Jesus show me new Jerusalem and he said tell his people to stand together with Israel ... Jesus show me a moon he said when u see this moon know the time is near, I saw Jesus in the clouds he said to me he is coming back soon , I saw 7 angel with long trumpets, I saw Jesus coming fiercely in the clouds he had no favoritism if u know him u will go if not u will have to go through the hard times here on earth 🌍 as Jesus was coming there was a lighting then rapture suddenly a earthquake and then follow darkness Over the earth and a knee length flood the world was in Chacos ... I also saw the pope with a bible in his hand said 666 I personally don’t trust the Pope ... i had many many dreams where I saw my savior Jesus Christ .. we communicated through thoughts and I saw the number 12:13 or 12:12 I can’t remember the exact number but one of the number I don’t know what it meant ... I saw a army Preparedness for a secret attack they have green and black uniform I saw this army with a long range missile and a short range missile .. I just want to share with everyone .. I trust in Jesus he is coming back soon. Because my father told me so .. Jesus is the only way plz repent everyday every second and trust in him with all ur heart and souls .. I love you my savior Jesus Christ thank you for saving me my Lord .. I’m noting without you my savior Jesus Christ u are my everything.. I love u 😍 my Jesus Christ my father
I post a comment when I had the dream it was 6 month ago and come to find out on Passover breaking Israel show a pinkish moon over Israel 🇮🇱.. I was not surprised because it’s what Jesus show me but it wow me when I saw it because I mention it in a comment 6 month ago
I have been reading and listening to R.C. Sproul's lectures, sermons and teachings for years. I have ALWAYS APPRECIATED his extensive knowledge, years of study, and learning; and the calm, sensible and non-sensational manner of presenting and explaining it. Dr. Sproul was "called home" several years ago. He was Presbyterian, and steeped in the Reformed theological tradition. I am also Presbyterian and Reformed (and reforming!).
Praise the Lord! I immensely adore the Bible teaching of the late R.C. Sproul, who is now absent from his earthly body and present with the Lord! He was a thoroughly clear preacher/teacher and my spiritual inner man can easily understand what he taught by the enablement of God the Holy Spirit! I love this, look forward to meeting him in Glory!
@@garvinsmith4555 By your comment, I presume you hold to a dispensational view of the rapture, which is something that was formed in the 19th century. There is zero proof that the early church believed in the 2nd and 3rd return of Jesus, which is basically what the dispensational rapture teaches (to rapture His church and reign for 1000 yrs, and then returns again to judge) Not found in scripture!!! You need someone to tell you this (John Nelson Darby), and then you start inserting this concept into everything you read in the word of God. I love the 'Left Behind' movies, but that's not the word of God.
Thank You For Sharing The Word Of God. My Husband is incarcerated and I have been blessed to receive the continued message of Jesus Christ through such true, dignified gospel teachers as this gentleman via UA-cam. God help us all
Jonathan Ray p.s. I used to know a baha’i. a long time ago... you book is a mingling if stories from the Bible and other religions. Your book has been written by someone who wanted all religions to be blended to bring it all together but it just does not work that way.
In no way can 70AD be termed a "return" of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is obvious that in 1 Thess.4 and 1 Cor.15 that our Lord returns FOR His Church. But in Revelation 19:7-9, 14; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 19:15, 16, after the ravages of the Tribulation, He returns WITH His Church.
Those epistles addresses the audience who received them, as Jesus also addressed that generation. Paul writes to a group who were experiencing the persecutions in their day, and wrath which was about to come (70ad). He didn't write a letter for people 2000 years later,they understood exactly what he was referring to. The being caught up in the air, is metaphoric imagery. The air is the most holy place opened (heaven and earth was the old temple in Jerusalem). The new heaven and earth, and temple, is already now. In Christ. We are in Him. We can't be more with him later. We are joined. One. Union. Spirit. New creation already present.
@mal'ak emeth why is it ignored the saints who were dead that were Ressurected when Jesus went to paradise, the dead brought to life. Just trying to study without man's guess but by the spirit.
The majority of Christians get mired in the swamp of interpretive controversy because they don't have an overarching view of eschatology. Sincere questions: Is a Jewish view of "final things" escapist or redemptive? Need we be translated to another "place" because the Gospel has ultimately failed to gather and purify a people for God? If not, why do we need a "tribulation:? If the Gospel has not initiated a present and growing kingdom, how can we have any confidence in either the salvific or sanctifying power of Christ's life, death, resurrection, ascension, and final return?
yes, meeting Jesus in the air, as He goes where? read Zech 14. He isn't bringing anyone to "heaven", but bringing us into His inheritance, the Kingdom....which is the reality of the "heavenly hope"
@@eekay5710 the kingdom is also a tangible objective reality, and that hasn't happened yet, as evident by Jesus not reigning the earth from the throne of David in the promised land to Abraham
@@junk3996 The kingdom of God is only what scripture says it is. The kingdom of God is not a geographic place or something for the future, but 'is in the realm of the Holy Spirit, filled with righteousness, peace and joy'. Rom 14:17 Jesus in John 3:3 'Before a person can perceive God's kingdom realm, they must first experience a rebirth'. (born from above, born from the origin). Due to the cross, we now can 'experience the reality of God's kingdom realm', as the Holy Spirit has been poured out into us. Luke 6:20 Jesus in Luke 17:20,21 God's kingdom realm does not come simply by obeying principles or by waiting for signs. The kingdom is not discovered in one place or another, for God's kingdom realm is already expanding within some of you (meaning those who came to the born again).
Their are very few men that have had such an extraordinary impact on my walk with Jesus Christ. RC Sproul, Pastor John Macarthur, Les Feldick and the apostle Paul. Top of the heap! I look forward to the day when i can tell them all in person! ❤
I listened intently here and the text that confuses me with R.C. Sproul's interpretation of the rapture is John 14:1-3 "“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also." Here, the Lord Yeshua Christ is explaining to His disciples at His final Passover that He's leaving them but tells them not to be troubled about it. What is He going to do? He's leaving the earth to return to Glory He shared with His Father before the world was created (John 17:5) in heaven. To do what? To build homes for His people. Now according to Dr. Sproul's interpretation, the Church that is caught up will never reside in these homes because they're gonna leave and come right back to the earth.
One of my late father’s favorite preachers. They are together now in the presence of the Lord. It is intriguing to wonder whether they may now ‘know’ each other. I suspect that being in the presence of the Father and the Son consumes us and far exceeds any present curiosity as to others we may have known of on earth, but who knows. I do think that we will get to know all of these folks in the fulfillment of eternity.
If they are together now in the presence of the Father, why would Jesus have to come and resurrect them? If when people die they go to heaven or hell why will there be a resurrection and a judgment? Such is contrary to the teachings of Scripture.
HERE is The TRUE Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth according to scripture. Resurrection is the body.... To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Our God breathed soul/spirit ?
@@curtisclark9544 when the apostle Paul speaks of absent from the body, what is talking about? When Ezekiel was absent from the body, where did he go? Please look up the word rapture in Greek, what it means. I have done a Bible study on it. You can check it out if so desired. Be blessed.
@@alvinhickling901a rapture from the dead as in a resurrection into the air of life YES. Now, here’s the question: How many comings are there? How would you answer that? Two. The first coming was 2,000 years ago. The second coming is sometime in the future. There are only two comings. Well, I’m not going there yet, but I just want to keep it simple for the moment here. But Paul says, whatever he’s talking about in 1 Thessalonians 4 happens at the coming of the Lord. So, that will happen at the second coming. There’s a first coming, there’s a second coming, okay? And he says, “The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” This is a resurrection. It doesn’t use the word “rapture.” It uses that which comes from the Latin from this passage, I think, or maybe it’s from the Corinthians passage, but in any event, it doesn’t use the term. I’m not faulting the word, but we just want to make sure that the words that we’re using are accurately reflecting what the text says. This says, “The dead in Christ will rise,” so we are talking here about a resurrection at the coming of the Lord. And then it says, “Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together”-there’s your rapture word, I think-“caught up with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” So, what Paul is saying is that at the coming of the Lord, those who have fallen asleep will be resurrected, so they go from dead to alive in the resurrection. But those who have not died yet will also be resurrected in the sense that they get transformed without having died. Why? Because it’s the end. Here’s Jesus. Pretty straightforward.
Started listening to this brilliant man after hearing Paul Washer talk about him. Keep the faith brothers and sisters! All praise be to the Lord. Every knee will bow and every mouth will confess.
Despite what many want to believe, Christianity isn't complicated. Love the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, obey the 11 Commandments, live your life as Jesus instructed you to do in the Gospels, and don't worry about it. Christianity ought to bring you peace, not anxiety. It ought to make you love, not hate.
mal'ak emeth That’s a terrible lie that reveals more about you than it does about our (now deceased) brother in Christ. I don’t agree with RC’s eschatology. But he is my brother in Christ through faith in Him. We aren’t saved by our eschatology. We ARE SAVED BY OUR FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR ON THE CROSS!!
@@eddetom7417 - The way that it works- is that if You are Sure about your beliefs, and you are excited about them, then it's natural to go out and share them. Basically only people unsure of their beliefs, or it's those who don't really have any in particular - are silent.
Great preaching! Very clear and informative, and very helpful to me personally. I have been trying to get a clear understanding of the rapture for some time and I am most grateful to RC for this.
But why disregard John 14:2-3, "In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." - Sproul dismisses the fact that we are going to go with Jesus to heaven to reside in His Father's house of many rooms which has been prepared by Jesus for us. Jesus is not receiving us in the clouds to accompany him back to earth - we are meeting him to go to heaven with Him. Yep, I'm listening for the shout and trumpet sound: I'm going to be in Heaven with Jesus before I return with Him for the Millennium.
You are correct. He is taking us to the big house for 7 years of Tribulation. Then we all return together for the apocalyptic end before the Millennial 1,000 years of peace.
@@MarkNewmanApus It's referring to the betrothal arrangement in Jewish culture. When the bridegroom was betrothed, he would return to his father's house to add a room without his bride, until the work was done and he was ready to return to pick up his bride and take her to his father's house where they would have a great wedding feast. Afterwards both bride and groom would spend 7 days together in this room. One could argue that what Christ is preparing is the New Jerusalem which will come down from heaven in Revelation 21:2 because it makes a reference to the bride.
@@MarkNewmanApusLearn and rightly divide the Word. Jesus says in Christ 13, "Jesus replied, “Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later.” This coincides perfectly with Ch 14...3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”. They will follow later. Later being after Christ first goes and later comes back for them. This will take place at the Rapture. Furthermore, the Greek word for home is not figurative, but literal...Mone. translation is a mansion. This reflects the size, and type and scope of the heavenly abide Christ prepares for His own. That is proper context and proper hermeneutics. If it were anything else but a true heavenly abide, Christ would not have embellished with use of such a Word.
In the wedding ceremony, the caught up was followed by a time of sevens. He came to take the bride from her home to His fathers home for a time of sevens. He didn’t stay at her home.
@@dennisboyd1712 The great white throne judgment comes after the world is destroyed by fire after the 1,000 year reign of Christ! The Lamb of God and His bride physically return at the beginning of the millennium in Rev.21:9-10!
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather OUT OF his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat13 > Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil. For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. Psa37
REV. Chpt. 17- 20 The elements of the earth that refused to follow God's word will be destroyed. Babylon the Great ( World of false religion ) 2. All wickednessed 3. Governments of the Earth . Yes the meek, righteous will inherit the earth. The earth will never be destroyed.
As a "pre-tribber", I would respectfully contend that the raptured church is not just "sitting around with Jesus", but enjoying the Marriage Feast of the Lamb. Then, at the end of the tribulation period, He will return, with His church for the final battle of Armageddon.
THATS FUNNY BECAUSE THE INVITATION TO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER IS AT THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS AFTER GREAT TRIBULATION. READ IT FOR YOURSELF. REVELATION 19: 9, 11 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. so im thinking you dont really read your bible and study. you just listen to ear ticklers, and form your own version of comfort and ease. lack of knowledge destroys God's people. Hosea 4 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Yes, and that is also the same belief as the early church fathers, including the ones that were disciples and knew John personally. It is very difficult to change your mind on something you grew up in and especially when involved in a denomination that teaches it. As you do, I still love these brothers in Christ and looking forward to being with our Lord soon. God Bless
There's no pretribulation rapture... let's just look at it this way... Jesus said when I return will I find faith... so how was yr faith tested if u were pre raptured... Look at it this way... Who will GOD look at at with more mercy and grace those who were pretrib raptured or those who went through it not taking the 666 mark... think yr faith needs to be tested
@@ravindrinrangasamy578Our faith is tested every moment of every day. If you obey the will of God and you love and keep his commandments you will be caught up into the clouds to be with the Lord forever. If you’re a lukewarm Christian then you’ll go through the fire of the tribulation, you will be made hot. What is the parable of the 10 virgins about? What are the 3 different harvest parables; barley, wheat, and wine about?
If this message can please get back to John. I am 35 years old. Born and raised in the church. We began at the Calvary Church where I was baptized and ended up deep in the charismatic religion. I've always heard God's voice but was told it was the enemy, I bet some people can relate. Pastor John is an amazing Man of God rightfully dividing the word of truth which and sense then saved me. My family is also understanding 1 day at a time as a result. God is good. I am forever grateful. Praying for GCC from up in NorCal.
Amen Preacher, If Paul thought he could be in the Rapture, this itself shows we as Christians go before the seals are opened. I believe they will be a 7 year of preparing we saints before the final Coming of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. People I believe need to hear this message today! God bless you and your family ✝️
@@texsis2112 😂 The word "raptor" can refer to a type of bird or dinosaur. Raptor dinosaurs were moderately small dinosaurs that had hollow bones and were covered in feathers. Raptor birds are birds of prey such as hawks and eagles.
Revelation 6:11 (KJV) [11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. This tells me that the church is still on the earth during the tribulation
Rick, That only says that those martyred for their faith will continue to sleep until the rest are martyred. Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
If you know that the FIRST resurrection occurs in millennium (Read Rev chapter 20) then you can be certain the the rapture is immediately after the tribulation as is stated in Matt 24:29. The rapture occurs after the first resurrection so it cannot occur pretribulation.
@@magriffing3497 Christ is coming to earth once. We are told he will return the same way he left and he only left once. When he arrives there will be a rapture and the kingdom will be established in Jerusalem. This why he taught us to pray for god's kingdom to come. Those who are resurrected in the first resurrection rule as kings and priests ON EARTH. (Rev 20:4-6, Rev 5:10) The scriptures do indicate that there is time between the time of the rapture and final day of God's wrath. (Read Rev. chapter 14) Lot lived thru ungodly days and was rescued at the last moment. Noah lived in a violent world and he too was rescued at the last moment. We too will live through tribulation and will face the Anti-Christ. (See Rev. 20:4-6 - those resurrected have already faced the Anti-Christ) The prophecy of the mark of the beast was given to John 30 years after the destruction of Jerusalem, so we know that these saints that are resurrected are from our last days and not from the first century. We know the resurrection occurs before the rapture. If the FIRST resurrection as it is called in the scriptures occurs in the millennium as we are told in Revelation chapter 20, then a pre-tribulation rapture is impossible.
Most American Christians grew up dispensational, even if they don't realize what that is or means. Therefore, most American Christians disagree with RC, so you're just "in that group." No news. Now, why not give a point of critique?
yep this is the first and only thing i have ever disagreed with him on. His conclusion makes absolutely no sense. I know it's the posture taken by the "reformed" so i just move onward holding to a pre trib rapture and still so loving RC teaching!!!!
There are many people here who are in for a huge shock. There is a rapture of the believers which hasn’t happened yet and it MUST take place before the 7 year great tribulation.
No. Because the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST. Read the book of Revelation and see how many in Christ die or are martyred during the great tribulation. Rev. 14:14-16
where is salvation agreement between yeshua and God. where yeshua said i will die on cross for everyone sins and God accepted it saying yes yeshua i have accepted your sacrifice??
He does not touch the earth when the rapture takes place so that is not considered the 2 nd coming that happens at the end of the tribulation when he touches down on the mount of olives everyone will see this and we are told 1290 days after the Abomination of desolation takes place . The rapture no one knows the day or hour. The 7 years we are with the lord is the marriage feast we are given fine linen . The tribulation saints will be given robes Just like Enoch was taken before the flood And Elijah was taken before Babylon so to the church will be taken before the tribulation if you can count on anything you can count on the consistency of the Lord
fed99harmony no the rapture is not a secret its a promise it will only be secret to those who are not prepared to be taken up to be with the lord. When is Gods wrath poured out on this world if not at the breaking of the first seal? His wrath we are not appointed to if we are expecting him at any moment. If you are not expecting him at any moment well then who are you looking for? The antichrist ? As for me im looking for the blessed hope to be snatched out of here and meet the lord in the air and go into the marriage feast for the following 7 years. The 2nd coming will not be like a thief in the night all will see him in his glory the war will be finished by his coming. After the abomination its 3 1/2 years and jesus comes to set up his kingdom think about it if not even the son knows when he comes to take us to him why would he tell us this 1260 days .
Psalm 27 you said yourself Jacobs trouble, do you even know what that means ? And if you don’t read Hebrew don’t even try to say things actually the apostle Paul wrote there ...saved out from ..not go through and this is the first time in my life when I hear that apostle Paul when he wrote to the church of Thessalonians to encourage them he didn’t think that the rapture it won’t happen in his life time , the way he wrote its exact what he said , and since he believe that he told them to encourage one another with this words , as simple as that , why someone try to twist the truth 🤷♀️, Jacobs trouble means Israel s troubles and the purpose of the tribulation is for the Jewish nation , listen to a messianic Jews and he will tell you exactly what it is and why , may God bless everyone!!!
Chicken Nuggets no actually Paul comfort them becouse they thought that the rapture took place and they were left behind, read in 2Thessalonians what Paul wrote to the church
When Christ meets his Bride in the air, we go back to his Father's house with him, and his word says, we will always be with the Lord, at the end of the tribulation we come back to the earth with him, and he sets up his Kingdom on earth for a thousand years,
It's not what R.C. Sproul thinks or feels will probably happen, NO! it's what Jesus said will happen. It's quite obvious that R.C. Sproul did not fully understand Mathew (24:37-39) where Jesus tells of a pre-tribulation rapture. The Lord told us that the last generation of Noah's day knew nothing of the flood/judgment until destruction came upon them, and even thus shall it be in the day when the son of man is revealed, (Luke 17:30.) " AND KNEW NOT, " Jesus said. Mathew (24:39.) This means that the lords coming judgment is going to come suddenly, and unexpectedly upon this last generation just as it did came upon the last generation of Noah's day. The Lord also told us about the rapture/catching away, or the taking of the righteous out of the way before his wrath is unleashed on the earth, and said that it will all happen on the same day just as before. Scripture tells us that if the lord does not prepare in advance a place for the righteous, he delivers them on the day of his judgment just as he delivered Lot the day when it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and Noah the day the flood came. Scripture also told us that he use angels to take Lot and his family out of the way, and the Ark to take Noah and his family out of the way, only this time he's going to "RAPTURE" his family out of the way of his Wrath that is about to be poured out upon this last, and unexpecting generation. Jesus also told us what the days would be like before his coming judgment. He said but as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the day that Noah entered the Ark and knew not until the flood came and took them all away. So shall also the coming of the son of man be. Mathew (24:37-39.) If we're not living in those days right now when it is still possible to eat and drink, buy and sell, plant and build, then those days will have to come after the tribulation which R.C. Sproul has suggested. And I'm quite sure that he knew exactly what Jesus said will happen immediately after the tribulation. Jesus's account of what is going to happen and RC Sprouls's account of what is going to happen are not the same.
The Tribulation is NOT the wrath of God. That is one of the false presumptions of the preTrib Rapture crowd. God’s wrath doesn’t happen until he is here to do it. (2 Thess). The Tribulation is Satan’s wrath on the Jews and Church…..then it ends with Christs return to bring his judgement. Read Matt 24 which is for us.
I would have had a million questions for Mr. Sproul. I love and respect him so much. I am a dispensationalist but I learned so much from his teachings. The consequence of ideas being one of my favorites. I do find it interesting, nowhere does the Bible come right out and say Jesus's return will happen in two stages rapture/planting his feet on the Mt. Of Olives, but nowhere does it come right out and say Jesus will come to earth twice, something we all believe. As a lamb to take away the sins of the world/on the clouds with great power and glory. I don't consider the rapture as his return at any rate. I believe the rapture is the rapture. An event that stands on its own. The mystery doctrine of Paul. And all previous doctrines of his return are spicific to his return where Israel says "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"
They’ll be no Rapture. PEROID. There is only one return of Christ Jesus & that is in judgement. If the church was raptured tomorrow who’s the Antichrist going to persecute? The ungodly? I don’t think so. The true church must go through great tribulation. It should be all joy for the child of God to suffer for the sake of the Gospel & for the testimony of Jesus Christ & him crucified. I would have no problem suffering for my saviour, because he suffered fo me.
@@hilarioushen4164 he persecutes israel. Thats why its the time of Jacob's trouble. And the rapture isnt a coming of christ. Its the rapture, because were not appointed to wrath. Nowhere does it explicitly state the messiah will come twice, but its implied. 2 thousand years ago, and at the second coming.
@@S3thousand hi John, I’m having trouble with revelation 7:9-14 this multitude that comes out of the great tribulation that’s not the Jews as they are the 144,000 mentioned previously in that chapter?
God’s return can be looked at in at least two ways, both ones fulfilled the prophecy of his return before the apostles perish. First theory Christ died on the cross and went to paradise and returned in three days. Second theory is he returned as the Holy Spirit and is governing his people. The Scriptures below was fulfilled on the cross. 1 Corinthians 15:23-25 English Standard Version 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
HERE is The Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Hello sir For your consideration. You said Paul gave no indication of a time of fulfillment in 1 cor 15:52 as Jesus gave on the Mount of Olives. I think Paul gave a specific time when he said at the last Trump. The Jews have a day every year on their calendar that they call the last trump - it is also called the hidden day because they did not know the day or hour it would occur.
I think the last trump means just that, at the end of the Millennium which this verse is talking about, no more death can only be at the end of the Millennium when everyone will receive a glorified body. The resurrection (receiving a glorified body) happens in three phases (not two). Christ the first fruits, then THOSE WHO ARE CHRIST'S (the rapture followed by the judgement seat of Christ where those qualified believers receive their glorified bodies, the rest [majority] go into outer darkness/2nd death), then comes the end (final resurrection) when He (Jesus) delivers up the kingdom (end of the Millennium) to the father, and everyone gets their glorified bodies. This is what 1 Cor 15.51/52 is talking about, not the rapture.
The end of the Millennium does not have a resurrection for the righteous (Rev 20:4-6), only the wicked. I see only one resurrection (John 11:24, 6:39-54). 1 Thes 4 has a resurrection. One taken, one left does not have a resurrection (Luke 17:37) and it is pre-trib. Eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building and getting married will be greatly diminished at the end of the tribulation. We don't know the day or hour of the one taken, one left event. Everybody is hiding in a cave, knows the Lamb of God is coming (Rev 6:15-17) and is freaking out (Luke 21:26) at the second coming. Two different events. Maranatha!
@@onetakendotnet Do you think the ones that are born in the Millennium are all evil, no righteous ones? I think Christians read a lot into scriptures, what the word does not say. There are only 3 resurrections with the change of the body (1. Cor 15:23+24). What does Rev 6:12-17 tell us? The sun and moon is darkened and the stars are falling from Heaven, that is the same as Mat 24:29, His 2. coming. The mountains and islands are removed, the same as Rev 16:20, again His 2. coming. Rev 16:15 at the 7th vial the Lord is coming as a thief. Luke 17:29+30 says that both salvation and destruction were on the same day and likewise it will happen at His coming. There is only one coming of the Lord after the Great Tribulation (Mat 24:29-31) and Paul says the same, after the AC is revealed (2.Thess 2:1-4). 2.Thess 2:1 tells us that the Day of the Lord is His parousia=advent=2.coming and our gathering unto Him. It is one day with evening and morning, 24 hours (Zech 14:7-9). The hiding in caves happens after the world wide earthquake, where the earth is shaken and went out of its place and the cities are destroyed, that is at His 2. coming, when His Wrath comes (Rev 6:16+17) immediately after the Rapture. Two different events the same day. The Rapture happens at His 2. coming as the Lord taught in Mat 24:29-31, there is no other coming in the bible, only believe.
@@benny-yj7pq thanks for the reply. >> Do you think the ones that are born in the Millennium are all evil, no righteous ones? I would think there will be a mix of righteous and wicked at the end of the millennium. >> There are only 3 resurrections with the change of the body I only see one for the resurrection for righteous (John 6:39-54, 11:24, Rev 20:4-6). Always singular, not plural. Maybe you are saying there are three sets of verses talking about the one event? >> Luke 17:29+30 says that both salvation and destruction were on the same day I see a time gap between the "salvation and destruction." Lot and his family had to get out of town first. I doubt the cities were destroyed the second he left the city gates. Noah was in the ark for seven days before it started to rain. When the flood started I would think many survived for days, weeks until they ran out of dry ground or their makeshift rafts capsized. >> It is one day with evening and morning, 24 hours (Zech 14:7-9). I would agree the culmination of the Day of the Lord ends with the second coming but the destruction in the great tribulation is going to last for more than 24 hours. It will be like a woman in labor. The pains come and go with greater and greater duration and intensity until the baby is born (Jesus is seen in the clouds coming in great power and glory). As the seven years progress, famines and droughts (as opposed to eating, drinking), hyperinflation (as opposed to buying, selling), earthquakes, violent storms and heat (as opposed to planting, building), love will grow cold (as opposed to getting married) will grow in intensity as the tribulation progresses. One taken, one left happens when nobody suspects anything supernatural is going to happen. There will be mockers saying, 'Where is the coming?" They will be hiding in caves for much longer than 24 hours.
Bless your ministry. It is a daily watch for me. It has also solidified my beliefs from the Bible. Even where I may feel differently it lets me know why
A simple reading of Revelation(which was a vision written in chronological order) leads to PreTrib Rapture. Not a reason to divide over, though. Love me some R.C. Sproul
It's very clear in the Gospels of when the "rapture" / resurrection occurs. Jesus said four times in the Gospels.... I will raise you up at the Last Day. Meaning, the last 24-hours of history or of time. No secret rapture, no two returns... one return, and one bodily resurrection and one transformation of those who are alive into a their new creation bodies.
1Cor 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Rapture of the church Rapture of 144000 Rapture of 2 witnesses Rapture of the trib saints - last trump
Did you hear his Freudian slip? Let's argue 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don't believe in the rapture.. The LORD IS getting my mind prepared. So I know it's really really close. NO GOLD NO SILVER NO BITCOIN Just LUKE 21:36🙏👼💁
Kenny - I’m with you on this one. I have faith in Jesus Christ, but not in my ability to figure everything out. Lotsa people in the world know everything about everything and aren’t shy about telling you so... I ain’t one of ‘em. I was raised in a pre-trib rapture church and was convinced of a rapture then. Later I spent 19 years in a partial preterist no rapture church and was convinced there too. Now I just say “I don’t know, but I’m leaving on the first bus out of here.”
I agree with Dr. Sproul's presentation. However, when he criticizes the partial preterists for spiritualizing the second coming of the Lord, he is guilty of the same thing when he talks about the Millennium in the Book of Revelation. The problem with most Reformed Theologians is that even though they got the doctrine of God and Salvation right, they simply continued embracing the Augustian and Aquinian view of biblical prophecy when it came to the End Times. It wasn't till the third wave of the Reformation, that of the Anabaptists, that the correct doctrine of believers baptism and a futuristic view of the End Times began to be taught. Infant Baptism is merely a carry over of the Catholic ritual. You see it in the Lutheran and Reformed traditions. Apparently, that aspect of theology was not a priority during the initial stages of the Reformation. Unfortunately, they never really took the time to examine the two doctrines from a fresh perspective, despite the fact that the NT is so clear regarding believers baptism by immersion as Paul illustrates it in Romans 6.
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I don't understand anyone teaching eschatology as if they know for sure how their OPINION of it will turn out. Jesus spoke expressly against this. His eschatology consists of, 'I am coming back, but no one will know when, in fact I'll come when you least expect it. So, BE READY!' Anyone teaching anything different as absolute truth is teaching another gospel.
I am not seeing a direct scriptural reason for rapture being comfortable or good... It could and i love an optimist... But my intuition is telling me rapture could very well be believers being taken away and concentrated in prison camps.
@@JD-hi8qx The teaching is unscriptural. To accept the doctrine of the rapture is to accept all the false teachings surrounding it. Jesus says all eyes will behold him and as the lightning flashes out of the east to the west so shall the coming of the son of man be.
This is the problem in America. Psychoanalyzing the Word of God. These men dig in lot the Scripture and try to interpret It with their human wisdom. If you give those passage to a simple believer, they will read this: Jesus is coming back in the clouds and the dead in Christ will join Him first and those alive right after….to escape the wrath of the father and the great tribulation that is pertained to the Jewish people. 1/3 of them will accept the Messiah. Then Jesus and the Church (Jews and gentils together) will come back and stop the carnage. He will lock up Satan for a millennium during which Jesus will reign on earth with the people His chose. The comes the great white throne where Jesus is going to judge the nations (who were not raptured and those born during the millenium), Satan, the False prophet, the beast and Death. After that, the earth and heaven will be destroyed. The new earth and heaven will be established where the saved people from the great tribulation and those born during the millenium will leave in. The New Jerusalem will come down from Heaven, where God and the Bride of Christ, those who were raptured (Saved by Grace between the cross and rapture/old and new treatment people), will dwell. There…
He doesn’t believe some believers will not see death, like Enoch and Elijah. He doesn’t believe that God often times takes away into safety His people before a destruction.
@mal'ak emeth Just your tone and how you are Passive Aggressive. Looks like, You like pointing fingers at people, you filled with Ego and pride, you act as you are so so perfect, Shame on you! Yes we should Be Repentant, but the way you started this conversation, as so unnecessarily aggressive. Will push people away, you will have to answer to Jesus one day for how foolish and unloving your approach was. You can inform them in a better more gentle way, let them understand, You just like to feed your Ego. I rebuke you the Spirit of Pride in Jesus name!
@mal'ak emeth Good job exposing yourself as who you really are, you are a servant of satan! Hopefully you change before its too late, that's it im not going to respond to you again you are a Fool.
mal'ak emeth i guess you mean it positively, bc you want people to be really saved and not decevied and I appreciate you for that, but tou are kinda being a legalistic pharisee and dont get me wrong i am guilty of this too
My first reaction is, Jesus isn't coming back in triumph and entering into his city. He's coming back to deal with the Anti-Christ and Israel. AND THEN he is triumphant. He's coming back to do battle, not to triumphantly claim his throne after a battle. He's coming back as warrior Jesus, not triumphant and ready to enter the city for a ticker-tape parade. So why would the Church go up to meet him as he's coming down, and continue on down with him "in glory"? He's coming back to essentially unleash a bloodbath, not to show off after a triumphant battle. It makes more sense that the Church would be raptured out before the Tribulation, and then return with Christ to take part in that final battle. What am I missing?
This verse proves Jesus has already come back the 2nd time. “But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”” (Mar 14:61-62, NASB)
Question?? ..... Sproul said "Paul does not say that the Christians will be caught up in the air and then stay up in the air with Jesus....... So ... what does this scripture mean? ..... John 14:3 “And if I GO and PREPARE A PLACE for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE you unto myself; that WHERE I am, THERE ye may be also.” ... Where is Jesus right NOW? ... that's WHERE we are going ....
As much as I love R.C's teaching on the holiness of God and election, Eschatology is not his strong area in fact his own understanding of it has proven spurious at best. He makes the statement that the church that is called up for the rapture will not remain with the Lord and yet that is exactly what Paul says in 1Thes 4 " and there they will ever be" indeed the church will return with the Lord at His 2nd coming (the rapture is not the 2nd coming for we meet Him in the clouds). I miss RC but not his eschatology, he gets that quite wrong!
If the Dispenstionalsist position is correct, then Jesus is a false prophet. There's no other way to say it. Did He or did He not promise the priests at His trial that they would see Him come with Power? Now, either they saw the judgement or they didn't. Which is it?
@@waltjones40 It's a problem or Hermeneutics, the judgment only spoken about in this context in Matt 24 is at the end of the age and not in the same time as Mark and Luke they are referring to the coming Kingdom or the "church age" in acts.
I don’t agree with his understanding of the rapture. One needs to understand the feasts of the Lord as found in Leviticus 23. Christ fulfilled the first four feasts precisely in His first coming. The next three feasts are the Feast of Trumpets (rapture) the day of Atonement or Yom Kippur ( second coming) and the Feast of Tabernacles - God with us in the Millenium reign of Christ. John 14: 1-4 is Christ’s promise to return for His bride, the church. This occurs before the Tribulation and is followed by the wedding supper of the Lamb in heaven, before Christ returns with His saints in the Second Coming.
Preterism? RC should have read his Bible more and his seminary notes less 1) Where does the Bible say, "Jesus returned in 70 AD"? 2) The sun darkened and the moon into blood before "The Day of the LORD" (Acts 2:20, Joel 2:31), the day, when Scripture asserts Jesus will come to "Harpadzo" (Rapture-Rescue) His people (1Th 4:17-5:2, 2Th 2:1-2), just before the "Wrath of God" (Rev 16) falls from heaven, to destroy all the wicked and ungodly (Is 13:6-15, Jer 46:10, Joel 1:15), like when the wrath of God fell in the days of Noah and Lot (Mt 24:38-39, Lk 17:26-30) immediately after Noah and Lot were safely protected from the wrath God, when it feel from heaven in their day.
Anyone answer this specially the none believer of the rapture??? Is this connected to the rapture or not? Mat 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Mat 24:41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
I believe the rapture. But this passages refers to wicked being taken (in judgment) and the righteous left (spared from God's wrath), just like the wicked were taken away in the flood, leaving Noah & his family (verse 38-39).
Did you know that one taken and one left they are both believers. Read verse 42-51. Jesus is speaking of believers one is a sensible slave the other is a evil slave. Why is he a evil slave because he becomes involved in other things .he left his first love. Verse 48 and 49 day what he did. As to the taken and left the ones taken or unbelievers the ones left are believers. Look at Luke chapter 17 first 26 it talks about the days of Noah and the days of lot. It says the rain down fire and brimstone and destroyed them all they were taken off the face of the Earth only lot and his family were left on the Earth. The flood came and destroyed them all the unbelievers were removed from the earth in other words they were taken away only Noah was left on the Earth. Look at Genesis chapter 7 verse 23 it says Noah was left on the Earth. Jesus said when he comes back it's going to be the same way the evil are removed from the Earth another word taken off the Earth they no longer are here on the Earth just as the unbelievers were removed from the earth in the days of Noah and lot. When you read read a couple verses out of context you can really twist scripture you need to read the whole context surrounding the versus you read to understand what Jesus is says to get the complete understanding of what he's trying to say. people totally misinterpret these versus one taken one left. But when you read the verses surrounding those verses you will get the complete picture of what he's trying to say. This principal goes for the whole Bible. God Bless
Kelvin, it’s not the Rapture.. it’s the harvesting of the grapes of wrath.. Luke 21 speaks of the Rapture.. Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
@@jacobfralin5482 It’s what the scriptures say. No one left behind will see him - only those snatched away. At his second coming with the saints to rescue remnant Israel all eyes will see him - towards the end of the great tribulation.
@@5p1tf1r31 "Like a thief in the night" doesn't mean unseen, reading the text, the Lord himself explains this has to do with knowledge read Matthew 24:43 in context. Do not be deceived, there will be no "secret rapture". The rapture will happen immediately after the first resurrection that will take place at His coming.
@@5p1tf1r31 that's not scriptural at all buddy. The thief passages are in regard to Jesus coming with judgement, not of him snatching the Church away.
Useless speculations when we should be focused on reaching the lost and living a righteous life ourselves. We are here now and we have a job to do! Sufficient each day are the troubles that it brings do not worry about the future!
@@donniegatlin6957 The 24th chapter of Matthew addresses the 2nd coming, not the rapture. First, the church did not even exist yet, and Christ had not yet been crucified, when the Olivet Discourse was given. The apostle Paul (years later) taught that the rapture was a secret mystery. (You have to look into the Koine Greek words to understand some of that). It was revealed first to Paul! Please study your Bible, and verify what Bible teachers are telling you, because some of them are wrong.
THERE'S NO THREE RESURRECTION, ACORDING TO YOUR BELIEVE, IF YOU BELIEVE THE RAPTURE, HAPPENS AND THEN 7 YEARS LATER ( MATT 24: 29-32 ) HAPPENS, AND A 1000 YEARS LATER THE RESURRECTION OF THE LOST PEOPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE 3 RESURRECTION, THE RAPTURE HAPPENS ST THE 7 the TRUMPH,, WHICH IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION, THEN A 1000 YEARS LATER THE SECOND RESURRECTION THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD UNSAVED.
No "rapture"/gathering together unto the Lord /Return of Christ until AFTER the Abomination. Jesus says so. Matthew 24:15-31. Holy Spirit via Paul says so. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8.
Malita Gerber can you help answer a question for me? When in the timeline you presented, does the church get caught up? If we stay to Armageddon, get caught up and turn right back around and come back (I’m assuming there wouldn’t be too many to come back for at that point because all of us will have been martyred)...at that point you would have only the people who took the mark left. So at Armageddon we come back with Him, and he casts the beast, false prophet, and all those who took the mark into the pit. So all who are saved have been taken up. All those who have taken the mark are cast away. Who goes into the millennium with un-glorified bodies to reproduce and refill the earth? Who will we reign over in the millennium? There is no one left.
In Josephus’ record of The Wars of The Jews there are plenty of abominations going on in Jerusalem by The Zealots for three and a half years before the Romans finally broke through in the last five months.
@@swansonseven2851The rapture is on the last day and the last trumpet which is after the tribulation period. 2 Peter 3:10 makes it clear what happens to the heavens and earth after the "thief in the night". After the earth is cleansed by fire, the new Jerusalem will arrive. Jesus second coming is not Him alone but with all the angels in heaven. I plan to meet him at His arrival don't you?
There was a resurrection when Jesus died. Matthew 27:52 The tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 After his resurrection they came out of their tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many.
It amazes me how major teachers such as Perry stone, john hagee, and other television teachers, supposedly Led by the Holy Spirit, can then misinterpret the written scriptures and fall for the pre _tribulation doctrine! When it is clearly stated in the word of God that the rapture occurs at the last trumpet blast at the end of the tribulation period known as Jacobs trouble? Jesus taught the church that the Day of the lord comes at the end of the tribulation period!
@ Capt. Mike Edwards: It amazes me that people confuse the Rapture (rapturos in Greek) and the Day of the Lord (final judgement and physical appearance of JC when all eyes shall see Him). The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah. When Noah got in the ark (parallel to the number of the Gentiles being fulfilled) God shut the door (the moment of Rapture). Then they were safe from God's wrath (which is what the Bible talks about as well). So as the judgement poured down, the Ark was above the waters (the church lifted in the air). I can only imagine the disappearance of thousands of people and then the Antichrist being revealed. The power of the Restrainer is now at work still, but when the Church is gone then there will be nothing to hinder the complete unleash of Evil of all the powers, dominions, and principalities that govern this world. Then the coming plagues as described in the book of Revelations...oh my! God said He is going to send His angels to gather His people from all the 'corners' of the earth, separating the wheat from the chaff, so that the wheat is stored and the chaff is burned. He will not judge the just with the unjust/unrighteous. The Bible explains itself and so far pre-trib matches all the allegories and also God's promises and prophecies. Thankfully this issue is not about salvation so whatever people understand from these passages make no difference to our eternity with Christ.
What of John 14: 1-3 1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. It sure sounds like we go to be in Heaven with Jesus for the 7 years while the earth is going through the tribulation. Thus the reason our bodies must be changed to dwell with Jesus in Heaven as per John 14. 1 Corinthians 15:53 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
So therefore you believe in two resurrections? Jesus would come twice? Once as a thief in the night and again in all Power and Glory? Then you must ignore Hebrews 9:28 and 2 Peter 3:10 which disputes that idea.
@@hildapage7065 Hello Hilda, I am not going to get into a long drug out response, I have learned, in general, people believe what they have been taught all their lives. Here are 4 bible verses (there are hundreds more) that no futurist can answer in a definitive, logical way. 1. Set aside what you have been taught for 15 minutes and read the first 5 verses of Revelation and ask yourself, who was the Revelation written too and pay attention to the message of imminence in the first 5 verses. The biblical translators of the NT had a reason they used words such as "soon" and "near". The two Greek words translated as "soon and near" mean exactly that............not 2000 years and counting. Therefore, I believe the author of the NT document. 2. Matthew 16:28...............Some of those people in Jesus' audience that day are not still living today. Therefore I believe When Jesus told his audience, "some standing here" (that day in his audience) would live to see his return. 3. Matthew 10:23....................The people (the 12) given the commission to go to the cities of Israel (not to the gentiles, but the lost sheep of Israel) would not finish their mission prior Jesus' return. I believe Jesus, not what I have been taught all of my life. 4. Matthew 24:34.......................Who was the audience when Jesus spoke those words? What were the specific questions presented to Jesus? When did Jesus say it would occur? I believe Jesus, not the many preachers, teachers and end time pendants who taught me all of my life. Mr. Sproul was key in helping me to reach the conclusions I have reached back in the ealy 2000's. His presentation, if studied out to its logical conclusion's along with the biblical text is paramount to defend the deity of Christ and the Inspiration/authority of scripture from the atheist and agnostics along with end time prophecy pundits. Good luck in your journey!
Very Interesting! So if all who receive the mark of the beast are to be condemned, how do the believers stay alive during the tribulation? Where do the triumphant witnesses stand? If all who do not accept the mark of the beast are killed, who are those of us who are still alive at his return?
Most won't live completely through the GT. Those Christians are known as the 'Tribulation Saints' who are Believers, that will be martyred as witness for their faith in Christ for rejecting the mark of the beast. Believers/Christians are the only ones who will have the power to reject the Antichrist and his mark because the Holy Spirit, who is not the Restrainer, abides in them. Enduring to the end is not referring to living through the entire GT until Jesus returns. Enduring to the end is not departing from the faith or denouncing Christ, even in the face of death. There will still be Christians on the earth when Christ returns. Death/Martyrdom IS triumphant, as scripture states that 'they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and loved not their lives even unto death... Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. -Psalm 116:15...Martyrdom is the highest honor a Christian will receive and since the first Christian martyr Stephen, ALL of them are still under the Mercy Seat until the last Brother/Sister in Christ is killed for their faith and American Christians are not exempt...Buckle up now because the One World Religion has officially been created (Chrislam) and will spread rapidly across the world soon even in America and the Church will be here...
How can there be a pretrib rapture when the "first resurrection" (Rev. 20) is after the reign of terror of the Beast? Notice that those raised up were beheaded by the Beast. So how is it pretrib??
Believed also in a pre trib rapture but after reading a few times in Revelation and what Jesus said about the end of times I don't believe in pretrib rapture anymore. It's so clear in the Bible about how the church is going to suffer in those times. We will have the sign of Holy Ghost to protect us. We have to spread the Gospel and witness even then.
mal'ak emeth thank you for posting this, it’s what I’ve been taught, also there are 2 events that this pastor missed, the catching away of the church...Jesus meets the saints in the air...the return of Jesus, His feet touch the mount of olives. The church is not mentioned after chapter 4 in Revelation,which means that the marriage supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven. Is that marriage celebration going to be 7 years, going by the 7 days feast of the Jewish marriage on earth? Can you shed some light? Or did I miss this completely?
mal'ak emeth Best break down I’ve heard so far of pre trib. Question? So does this mean that any Luke warm Christian left behind will not have any chance to repent and be saved? You’re saying it’s only Jews that will be saved after the rapture, correct?
mal'ak emeth I would like to talk to you if possible. I don’t want to leave my # on here but if I leave my email would you contact me, so I can give you #? Unless you can think of a better way of exchanging this info privately
mal'ak emeth I quoted Gods word on another comment full of your babbling and you didn’t want to hear it. I’m not even going to read your self righteous rant.
mal'ak emeth God will one day reveal to you how to be a real fisher of men. God cares nothing of your knowledge...Satan knows all that you do and more.
When Jesus comes 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 He resurrects the righteous dead and translates the living righteous. The already dead unrighteous remain dead at Jesus’ coming. The living unrighteous are destroyed at His coming. We spend 1000 years with Christ in heaven and learn why are loved ones did not make it. Rev 20 those that don’t go along with the beast reign with Christ for a thousand years! The rest of the dead live not till after the thousand years. Satan is bound for a thousand years and unable to tempt anyone. Blessed is he who hath part in the first resurrection for the second one (after the thousand years) does not lead to life everlasting. There is no second chance you are either ready at Jesus coming or you’re not as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be the days with the son of man you were either ready in the ark or you’re outside the ark and you died that is how it will be at the end of time ! People who teach a rapture for one group and then a second chance after the millennium for another group is not teaching truth that’s not what the Bible says. Read it. It’s in revelation 20 it’s very clear.
Thank you. I was talking to my mom about this earlier and she is knee deep in rapture theology. I dont argue but I just let her speak and I keep her in my prayers.
Is this still available on DVD? It might go well with my study group.
Hello Matt,
The DVD is in fact available for purchase at the below link:
www.ligonier.org/store/the-last-days-according-to-jesus-dvd/
@@ligonier Thank you! :)
Great idea !
And not to undercut Ligonier DVD sales but you can use a UA-cam download app to bring it onto your Laptop or Tablet - it helps to have these incredibly helpful videos to show your fellow Christians to gain a proper Reformed Preterist view.
There are still SO MANY sensational Rapture Fever preachers out there spinning their webs of 30% Bible 70% Groundless Speculation.
I'm a 20 years 'Sober' recovering Dispensational addict, so I can tell you what a breath of fresh air this is !
RC and Dr Ken Gentry were used of God in 1999 to wake me up to this 'hidden reality'.
Soli Deo Gloria !
Thanks Ligonier for posting these on UA-cam !
@Shaken not stirred
Careful there - that man was & is a servant of the Most High God !
Jesus warned that those who call others fool, without cause, are in danger of hellfire, in Matthew 5:22.
Exactly like you just did.
You sound like the kind who that warning was addressed to.
How will you answer to God on Judgement Day, mr. "shaken not stirred" ?
@@hellosunshine1090 99,9% of preachers are liars and snakes deceiving believers i have no respect for them they dont work for God they work for Satan they support the anti-Christ Jews!
Strangely enough I would listen to these teachings after putting my kids to bed, as company for washing dishes and folding laundry until late at night. I loved to hear the writing on the blackboard it made me memorize the key words .A lot of it had stuck in my head too... it also helped me keep calm as the reality of divorce showed itself night by night there too.
Thank you RC. For the calm voice and wise teaching in my time of testing. I gave it all to Jesus.
Me too!
God bless you sir, stay strong. You have a lot of friends in heaven that you haven't met yet.
Ezekiel 13:20 King James Version 20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
I do the same thing. While I’m working around my home, I’m listening to RC or the Bible.
Yes..we are here together...stay in deep holy ghost prayer
Just realize that YOUR meeting with God could happen at any minute... a heart attack, a car wreck, or whatever, and BE YE READY! NOW!
true
Sure that's one of the classic scare tactics used by Catholics, the world over for hundreds of years
@@harrybond007 It's absolute truth my friend not a scare tactic. It's actually the most loving warning you could ever tell someone because it determines where you will spend eternity and it shows a genuine concern for your soul. Jesus is Lord my friend and neighbor!
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@Spiritual Eyes vs Physical Eyes - Professor Sproul just spent 24 minutes directly addressing why this teaching is false. Go back and listen, and this time with your Bible and your ears open.
@@upstream5316 You will know if it’s the mark of the beast, it won’t be some hidden secret. It’s an embrace of the anti christ
This should be the fervent daily hope of every believer. Having become obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed. I'd rather hear the word 24/7 than anything else the world has to offer.
“Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.”
~ Apostle Paul ~
(1 Thess 4:18) (Regarding the ‘Rapture’)
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:)
Me too, I dint watch TV shows, I listen to the Word, or read scripture all the time.
@dennis3651 this might sound crazy, but even when we are someday with the risen living Word, I hope and trust we will still have The Bible in written form for all of eternity. Maybe in glory we'll all know Hebrew Aramaic and Greek in our new bodies and minds.
@gregv79 yes, written form. I wish would use written form these days instead of pulling it up on your cell phone color because I think one should know where the books of the Bible are located because they are in a certain order for a purpose I would think so anyways.
Read your Word hungrily because they will be coming for it soon enough and you'll wish every word was in your heart and mind.
Jesus said, blessed is he who hears my word and keeps it in his heart.
mal'ak emeth - This is not only naive, but contrary to the explicit teaching of both Jesus and his apostles, who said quite the opposite.
“To the law and the testimony! If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.”
This OT principle clearly carries over into the NT: Matt 5:17, etc. Because the work of the Spirit IN us is altogether subjective, the whole point of an inspired text is to provide a uniformly accessible objective basis for what we all believe. For which there is NO substitute. It isn’t either/or. It’s both/and.
He’s doing this on all the comments
@mal'ak emeth it's about us, he gave his Life for us, ( the BRIDE ) we will most undoubtedly give ours for Him? Are we ready 👍✝️💜🙏
Yep. Make sure you have a physical copy of the Bible (multiple Bibles) because they will someday erase all Bibles on your phones/tablets.
that is true LORD Jesus God bring home matthew 10:19 kjb alone
I thank you my Lord and savior for saving me .. thank you for taking me out of Hinduism.. I was a Hindu for 35 years and I used to served Hindu idol.. I was brought up to not like Christian and Jesus wasn’t real .. that all changes when I had a very bad experience in my life and I pretended to be a Christian but little do i know God had his own plans for me .. I saw Jesus for the first time in my dreams and in his presence I felt this love I never experienced In my life before.. in my savior presence I felt all my sins was forgiven when I woken up I lift my hands up give my life to Jesus I repent and today my ways and life is change for the better.. I saw Jesus many times after I had a out of body experiences .. I was in Israel Jesus show me new Jerusalem and he said tell his people to stand together with Israel ... Jesus show me a moon he said when u see this moon know the time is near, I saw Jesus in the clouds he said to me he is coming back soon , I saw 7 angel with long trumpets, I saw Jesus coming fiercely in the clouds he had no favoritism if u know him u will go if not u will have to go through the hard times here on earth 🌍 as Jesus was coming there was a lighting then rapture suddenly a earthquake and then follow darkness Over the earth and a knee length flood the world was in Chacos ... I also saw the pope with a bible in his hand said 666 I personally don’t trust the Pope ... i had many many dreams where I saw my savior Jesus Christ .. we communicated through thoughts and I saw the number 12:13 or 12:12 I can’t remember the exact number but one of the number I don’t know what it meant ... I saw a army Preparedness for a secret attack they have green and black uniform I saw this army with a long range missile and a short range missile .. I just want to share with everyone .. I trust in Jesus he is coming back soon. Because my father told me so .. Jesus is the only way plz repent everyday every second and trust in him with all ur heart and souls .. I love you my savior Jesus Christ thank you for saving me my Lord .. I’m noting without you my savior Jesus Christ u are my everything.. I love u 😍 my Jesus Christ my father
Hello
What did the moon look like that Jesus showed you?
Nikita Nikita hey there, could u specify what the colour of the moon was please?
was the moon red or was one third of it dark?
Harrison Masih yes it was a pinkish reddish moon
I post a comment when I had the dream it was 6 month ago and come to find out on Passover breaking Israel show a pinkish moon over Israel 🇮🇱.. I was not surprised because it’s what Jesus show me but it wow me when I saw it because I mention it in a comment 6 month ago
I have been reading and listening to R.C. Sproul's lectures, sermons and teachings for years. I have ALWAYS APPRECIATED his extensive knowledge, years of study, and learning; and the calm, sensible and non-sensational manner of presenting and explaining it.
Dr. Sproul was "called home" several years ago.
He was Presbyterian, and steeped in the Reformed theological tradition.
I am also Presbyterian and Reformed (and reforming!).
Praise the Lord! I immensely adore the Bible teaching of the late R.C. Sproul, who is now absent from his earthly body and present with the Lord! He was a thoroughly clear preacher/teacher and my spiritual inner man can easily understand what he taught by the enablement of God the Holy Spirit! I love this, look forward to meeting him in Glory!
RC Sproul wow the whole eschatology series is a must see. He understood beautifully by the grace and power of our Holy Spirit. Praise God alone!
Where can we access the whole series?
I can't get enough of this man's teachings! Thank you Lord for this kind of addiction.
Me too!
Probably the greatest modern day teacher. Learned almost everything I know about reformed theology from RC. Praise God for his life
@@garvinsmith4555 By your comment, I presume you hold to a dispensational view of the rapture, which is something that was formed in the 19th century. There is zero proof that the early church believed in the 2nd and 3rd return of Jesus, which is basically what the dispensational rapture teaches (to rapture His church and reign for 1000 yrs, and then returns again to judge)
Not found in scripture!!! You need someone to tell you this (John Nelson Darby), and then you start inserting this concept into everything you read in the word of God.
I love the 'Left Behind' movies, but that's not the word of God.
Hail Satan 🤘🏽
@@paulrooney982 F**k 🖕Satan!!
Thank You For Sharing The Word Of God. My Husband is incarcerated and I have been blessed to receive the continued message of Jesus Christ through such true, dignified gospel teachers as this gentleman via UA-cam. God help us all
Please please investigate the Bahai Faith. Christ has already come again. His new name is Baha'u'llah.
Jonathan Ray lies
Jonathan Ray p.s. I used to know a baha’i. a long time ago... you book is a mingling if stories from the Bible and other religions. Your book has been written by someone who wanted all religions to be blended to bring it all together but it just does not work that way.
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@@jonathanray4598 no, if so, this world would have our Lord Messiah, and all that he is.
Sarah Ward. We were buried with Jesus Christ and we were raised and Resurrected with Christ and we are now seated in heavenly places with Christ.!
all the years of scholastic wrestling and study by R. C. allows this fantastic and clear teaching. Thank you.
I love my brother R C Sproul! I know my brother is with the LORD JESUS, right now!
Oh no really. finally find someone I like to listen to and find out he's not even with us anymore thank you.
@@texsis2112 🙏
In no way can 70AD be termed a "return" of the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is obvious that in 1 Thess.4 and 1 Cor.15 that our Lord returns FOR His Church. But in Revelation 19:7-9, 14; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 19:15, 16, after the ravages of the Tribulation, He returns WITH His Church.
Those epistles addresses the audience who received them, as Jesus also addressed that generation. Paul writes to a group who were experiencing the persecutions in their day, and wrath which was about to come (70ad). He didn't write a letter for people 2000 years later,they understood exactly what he was referring to. The being caught up in the air, is metaphoric imagery. The air is the most holy place opened (heaven and earth was the old temple in Jerusalem). The new heaven and earth, and temple, is already now. In Christ. We are in Him. We can't be more with him later. We are joined. One. Union. Spirit. New creation already present.
@@andrewdove342 most scholars totally disagree with what you are saying. Just to name a few Ravi Zacharias, David Jeremiah, John MacArthur
@mal'ak emeth why is it ignored the saints who were dead that were Ressurected when Jesus went to paradise, the dead brought to life. Just trying to study without man's guess but by the spirit.
The majority of Christians get mired in the swamp of interpretive controversy because they don't have an overarching view of eschatology. Sincere questions: Is a Jewish view of "final things" escapist or redemptive? Need we be translated to another "place" because the Gospel has ultimately failed to gather and purify a people for God? If not, why do we need a "tribulation:? If the Gospel has not initiated a present and growing kingdom, how can we have any confidence in either the salvific or sanctifying power of Christ's life, death, resurrection, ascension, and final return?
@Spiritual Eyes vs Physical Eyes I believe God and the Bible says the new earth will be nothing like the one we are living in now
Oh, happy day; oh, happy day. Caught up to meet Him in the air. Come even so Lord Jesus!
AMEN.
yes, meeting Jesus in the air, as He goes where?
read Zech 14. He isn't bringing anyone to "heaven", but bringing us into His inheritance, the Kingdom....which is the reality of the "heavenly hope"
@@junk3996 Agree, and this He alreády has done, as the kingdom of God is inside of us!
@@eekay5710 the kingdom is also a tangible objective reality, and that hasn't happened yet, as evident by Jesus not reigning the earth from the throne of David in the promised land to Abraham
@@junk3996 The kingdom of God is only what scripture says it is.
The kingdom of God is not a geographic place or something for the future, but 'is in the realm of the Holy Spirit, filled with righteousness, peace and joy'. Rom 14:17
Jesus in John 3:3 'Before a person can perceive God's kingdom realm, they must first experience a rebirth'. (born from above, born from the origin).
Due to the cross, we now can 'experience the reality of God's kingdom realm', as the Holy Spirit has been poured out into us. Luke 6:20
Jesus in Luke 17:20,21
God's kingdom realm does not come simply by obeying principles or by waiting for signs. The kingdom is not discovered in one place or another, for God's kingdom realm is already expanding within some of you (meaning those who came to the born again).
Uh, Jesus already came in 70AD. That's GREAT FOR US !!! PTL!!!
What a blessing to continue learning from Dr. Sproul! He lives on in every sense.
Amen! So true. His teachings from the grave still speak loudly today.
Be that as it may. He's still wrong about the Rapture.
We are one day closer...😎✝️❤️
This is a beautiful prospective 👍
Edwin tomlinson - except there’s no inference of any day or year to the rapture 🤷🏾♂️
Brother Caleb because we know the rapture will come one day. Every day that passes, brings us one day closer to that Glorious day. 😊
AMEN
🙏 I hope it is soon
Their are very few men that have had such an extraordinary impact on my walk with Jesus Christ. RC Sproul, Pastor John Macarthur, Les Feldick and the apostle Paul. Top of the heap! I look forward to the day when i can tell them all in person! ❤
I listened intently here and the text that confuses me with R.C. Sproul's interpretation of the rapture is John 14:1-3
"“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also."
Here, the Lord Yeshua Christ is explaining to His disciples at His final Passover that He's leaving them but tells them not to be troubled about it. What is He going to do? He's leaving the earth to return to Glory He shared with His Father before the world was created (John 17:5) in heaven. To do what? To build homes for His people. Now according to Dr. Sproul's interpretation, the Church that is caught up will never reside in these homes because they're gonna leave and come right back to the earth.
A big u turn in the sky.
REVELATION 22: 12
Agreed
That verse doesnt necessarily teach that Jesus is building homes in heaven. He is securing our place in the kingdom
The Bible also says that the "New Jerusalem" will come down not made by human hands.
He has a comforting personality and good character this r.c
Craig, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
One of the best (top 2-3) teachers of our age
One of my late father’s favorite preachers. They are together now in the presence of the Lord. It is intriguing to wonder whether they may now ‘know’ each other. I suspect that being in the presence of the Father and the Son consumes us and far exceeds any present curiosity as to others we may have known of on earth, but who knows. I do think that we will get to know all of these folks in the fulfillment of eternity.
If they are together now in the presence of the Father, why would Jesus have to come and resurrect them? If when people die they go to heaven or hell why will there be a resurrection and a judgment? Such is contrary to the teachings of Scripture.
HERE is The TRUE Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth according to scripture. Resurrection is the body....
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Our God breathed soul/spirit ?
@@curtisclark9544 when the apostle Paul speaks of absent from the body, what is talking about? When Ezekiel was absent from the body, where did he go? Please look up the word rapture in Greek, what it means. I have done a Bible study on it. You can check it out if so desired. Be blessed.
Let US Share The gospel of christ to all the nations through all social medias, Jesus beloved!!!
What a blessing God has blessed us through R.C.!
Brainwashing is a beautiful thing!!!!!!!!!
R c sproul was an amazing reformed bible teacher. Huge blessing to this world. I agree with what he said.
Predestination and Providence. Our times are in His Hands! Praise the Lord!
That's called Calvinism
it’s called, the Bible…because it teaches those things
this always gives me a goosebumps hearing about the preaching of rapture. What a glorious day that will be! Soli Deo Gloria 🙏
Since RC doesn't believe in the "rapture" 🤣
@@ratedrreformed8452 theres always one !
@@alvinhickling901a rapture from the dead as in a resurrection into the air of life YES.
Now, here’s the question: How many comings are there? How would you answer that? Two. The first coming was 2,000 years ago. The second coming is sometime in the future. There are only two comings. Well, I’m not going there yet, but I just want to keep it simple for the moment here.
But Paul says, whatever he’s talking about in 1 Thessalonians 4 happens at the coming of the Lord. So, that will happen at the second coming. There’s a first coming, there’s a second coming, okay? And he says, “The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” This is a resurrection. It doesn’t use the word “rapture.” It uses that which comes from the Latin from this passage, I think, or maybe it’s from the Corinthians passage, but in any event, it doesn’t use the term. I’m not faulting the word, but we just want to make sure that the words that we’re using are accurately reflecting what the text says. This says, “The dead in Christ will rise,” so we are talking here about a resurrection at the coming of the Lord. And then it says, “Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together”-there’s your rapture word, I think-“caught up with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.”
So, what Paul is saying is that at the coming of the Lord, those who have fallen asleep will be resurrected, so they go from dead to alive in the resurrection. But those who have not died yet will also be resurrected in the sense that they get transformed without having died. Why? Because it’s the end. Here’s Jesus. Pretty straightforward.
Started listening to this brilliant man after hearing Paul Washer talk about him. Keep the faith brothers and sisters! All praise be to the Lord. Every knee will bow and every mouth will confess.
Educational lesson. Thank you for uploading it!
I still miss RC Sproul.
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End Game : what this means is Dr Sproul does NOT BELIVE in rapture and 7 years of anti-Christ and false prophet . That belief is WRONG .
Don't we all
Despite what many want to believe, Christianity isn't complicated. Love the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, obey the 11 Commandments, live your life as Jesus instructed you to do in the Gospels, and don't worry about it. Christianity ought to bring you peace, not anxiety. It ought to make you love, not hate.
@SmellofFemaleno
@efandmk3382 - You wrote, "...obey the 11 Commandments..." Was that intentional or a mistype?
There is 10 commandments
John 13:34 a new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
@@apostolicengineer8251that is not new! It is summed up in the 10 commandments.
Miss this incredible Teacher of the Word-----see you Heaven R.C.
Excellent teaching and exposition. Thankyou Dr. Sproul!
What a great theologian. A gift to the body of Christ.
mal'ak emeth That’s a terrible lie that reveals more about you than it does about our (now deceased) brother in Christ. I don’t agree with RC’s eschatology. But he is my brother in Christ through faith in Him. We aren’t saved by our eschatology. We ARE SAVED BY OUR FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR ON THE CROSS!!
FeedScrn - You gotta be joking. He hasn't got a clue about prophecy.
@@smeatonlighthouse4384 What’s wrong with what he(RC) is saying?
Theology is not wisdom or even truth. Scripture should be your preacher in secret! Not some building with a erected high place seeking tithes...
@@eddetom7417 - The way that it works- is that if You are Sure about your beliefs, and you are excited about them, then it's natural to go out and share them. Basically only people unsure of their beliefs, or it's those who don't really have any in particular - are silent.
"Even so, COME, LORD JESUS!!"
Great preaching! Very clear and informative, and very helpful to me personally. I have been trying to get a clear understanding of the rapture for some time and I am most grateful to RC for this.
Check out Allen Nolan?
Looking forward to this great event of meeting the Lord in the air.
wish more folks listened to this guy. so many are deceived by foolish blind. thank God for sproul and his crew
But why disregard John 14:2-3, "In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." - Sproul dismisses the fact that we are going to go with Jesus to heaven to reside in His Father's house of many rooms which has been prepared by Jesus for us. Jesus is not receiving us in the clouds to accompany him back to earth - we are meeting him to go to heaven with Him. Yep, I'm listening for the shout and trumpet sound: I'm going to be in Heaven with Jesus before I return with Him for the Millennium.
You are correct. He is taking us to the big house for 7 years of Tribulation. Then we all return together for the apocalyptic end before the Millennial 1,000 years of peace.
AMEN
"father's house " was not literal. Read it again in the context of the chapter before and after.
@@MarkNewmanApus It's referring to the betrothal arrangement in Jewish culture. When the bridegroom was betrothed, he would return to his father's house to add a room without his bride, until the work was done and he was ready to return to pick up his bride and take her to his father's house where they would have a great wedding feast. Afterwards both bride and groom would spend 7 days together in this room. One could argue that what Christ is preparing is the New Jerusalem which will come down from heaven in Revelation 21:2 because it makes a reference to the bride.
@@MarkNewmanApusLearn and rightly divide the Word. Jesus says in Christ 13, "Jesus replied, “Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later.” This coincides perfectly with Ch 14...3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”. They will follow later. Later being after Christ first goes and later comes back for them. This will take place at the Rapture. Furthermore, the Greek word for home is not figurative, but literal...Mone. translation is a mansion. This reflects the size, and type and scope of the heavenly abide Christ prepares for His own. That is proper context and proper hermeneutics. If it were anything else but a true heavenly abide, Christ would not have embellished with use of such a Word.
In the wedding ceremony, the caught up was followed by a time of sevens. He came to take the bride from her home to His fathers home for a time of sevens. He didn’t stay at her home.
Is not the World God's & His Kingdom come to Earth at the end of the Great White Throne Judgment
The wedding ceremony is not the words of Jesus!
@@dennisboyd1712
The great white throne judgment comes after the world is destroyed by fire after the 1,000 year reign of Christ!
The Lamb of God and His bride physically return at the beginning of the millennium in Rev.21:9-10!
Thanks - back again for a refresher. No one has this but RC .... Bye later 🙏🙏👍
Jesus in Matt 5:5
'Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth'.
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather OUT OF his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat13 >
Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil. For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psa37
REV. Chpt. 17- 20 The elements of the earth that refused to follow God's word will be destroyed. Babylon the Great ( World of false religion ) 2. All wickednessed 3. Governments of the Earth .
Yes the meek, righteous will inherit the earth. The earth will never be destroyed.
As a "pre-tribber", I would respectfully contend that the raptured church is not just "sitting around with Jesus", but enjoying the Marriage Feast of the Lamb. Then, at the end of the tribulation period, He will return, with His church for the final battle of Armageddon.
THATS FUNNY BECAUSE THE INVITATION TO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER IS AT THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS
AFTER GREAT TRIBULATION.
READ IT FOR YOURSELF.
REVELATION 19: 9, 11
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
so im thinking you dont really read your bible and study.
you just listen to ear ticklers, and form your own version of comfort and ease.
lack of knowledge destroys God's people.
Hosea 4
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Yes, and that is also the same belief as the early church fathers, including the ones that were disciples and knew John personally. It is very difficult to change your mind on something you grew up in and especially when involved in a denomination that teaches it. As you do, I still love these brothers in Christ and looking forward to being with our Lord soon. God Bless
There's no pretribulation rapture... let's just look at it this way... Jesus said when I return will I find faith... so how was yr faith tested if u were pre raptured... Look at it this way... Who will GOD look at at
with more mercy and grace those who were pretrib raptured or those who went through it not taking the 666 mark... think yr faith needs to be tested
@@ravindrinrangasamy578What do you believe is the purpose of the Tribulation?
@@ravindrinrangasamy578Our faith is tested every moment of every day. If you obey the will of God and you love and keep his commandments you will be caught up into the clouds to be with the Lord forever. If you’re a lukewarm Christian then you’ll go through the fire of the tribulation, you will be made hot. What is the parable of the 10 virgins about? What are the 3 different harvest parables; barley, wheat, and wine about?
If this message can please get back to John. I am 35 years old. Born and raised in the church. We began at the Calvary Church where I was baptized and ended up deep in the charismatic religion. I've always heard God's voice but was told it was the enemy, I bet some people can relate. Pastor John is an amazing Man of God rightfully dividing the word of truth which and sense then saved me. My family is also understanding 1 day at a time as a result. God is good. I am forever grateful. Praying for GCC from up in NorCal.
The reason is two. Fold. 1 to protect us from His wrath at his coming and 2 to keep His promise of justification and salvation as a witness.
Amen Preacher, If Paul thought he could be in the Rapture, this itself shows we as Christians go before the seals are opened. I believe they will be a 7 year of preparing we saints before the final Coming of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. People I believe need to hear this message today! God bless you and your family ✝️
Exactly the Raptor happens before 7-year tribulation
You'd be wrong.
There is no "rapture." There is only ever discussed the ressurection and Jesus said many times that it happens on the last day. Case closed.
@@texsis2112
😂 The word "raptor" can refer to a type of bird or dinosaur. Raptor dinosaurs were moderately small dinosaurs that had hollow bones and were covered in feathers. Raptor birds are birds of prey such as hawks and eagles.
You want to please your creator. Live the life he gave you the best you can. And accept Christ.
Revelation 6:11 (KJV)
[11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
This tells me that the church is still on the earth during the tribulation
Rick, That only says that those martyred for their faith will continue to sleep until the rest are martyred. Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
If you know that the FIRST resurrection occurs in millennium (Read Rev chapter 20) then you can be certain the the rapture is immediately after the tribulation as is stated in Matt 24:29. The rapture occurs after the first resurrection so it cannot occur pretribulation.
That's not the church/saints on earth. Those are the tribulation saints who are martyred. The Jews.
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The second coming is not the rapture.
What happened with Noah? And what happened with Lot?
Did God remove them from His wrath?
Why?
@@magriffing3497 Christ is coming to earth once. We are told he will return the same way he left and he only left once. When he arrives there will be a rapture and the kingdom will be established in Jerusalem. This why he taught us to pray for god's kingdom to come. Those who are resurrected in the first resurrection rule as kings and priests ON EARTH. (Rev 20:4-6, Rev 5:10) The scriptures do indicate that there is time between the time of the rapture and final day of God's wrath. (Read Rev. chapter 14) Lot lived thru ungodly days and was rescued at the last moment. Noah lived in a violent world and he too was rescued at the last moment. We too will live through tribulation and will face the Anti-Christ. (See Rev. 20:4-6 - those resurrected have already faced the Anti-Christ) The prophecy of the mark of the beast was given to John 30 years after the destruction of Jerusalem, so we know that these saints that are resurrected are from our last days and not from the first century. We know the resurrection occurs before the rapture. If the FIRST resurrection as it is called in the scriptures occurs in the millennium as we are told in Revelation chapter 20, then a pre-tribulation rapture is impossible.
Although timing does not matter because we should be ready always. I do believe RC has it wrong though on this. ❤
The 'Rapture' is full of holes.
Most American Christians grew up dispensational, even if they don't realize what that is or means.
Therefore, most American Christians disagree with RC, so you're just "in that group." No news.
Now, why not give a point of critique?
yep this is the first and only thing i have ever disagreed with him on. His conclusion makes absolutely no sense. I know it's the posture taken by the "reformed" so i just move onward holding to a pre trib rapture and still so loving RC teaching!!!!
I thank God who always make sure that I come across people like this man, whom He give His truth to be taught.
I love this brother.
I want to go home.🙌🏻🙌🏻😇
LM, have you made comments on Jim Brown grace and truth ministries, I heard your initials in a response he made?
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There are many people here who are in for a huge shock. There is a rapture of the believers which hasn’t happened yet and it MUST take place before the 7 year great tribulation.
Please read 2 Thess chap 2 & 3, and see you were taught very wrongly....
You are correct
No. Because the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST. Read the book of Revelation and see how many in Christ die or are martyred during the great tribulation. Rev. 14:14-16
where is salvation agreement between yeshua and God.
where yeshua said i will die on cross for everyone sins and God accepted it saying yes yeshua i have accepted your sacrifice??
He does not touch the earth when the rapture takes place so that is not considered the 2 nd coming that happens at the end of the tribulation when he touches down on the mount of olives everyone will see this and we are told 1290 days after the Abomination of desolation takes place . The rapture no one knows the day or hour. The 7 years we are with the lord is the marriage feast we are given fine linen . The tribulation saints will be given robes
Just like Enoch was taken before the flood And Elijah was taken before Babylon so to the church will be taken before the tribulation if you can count on anything you can count on the consistency of the Lord
Jesus said all his coming like athief that is timing not the event. The event is glorified event
fed99harmony then the timing will become the event
@@gerard1954 rapture is an event but not secret. And not before tribulation
fed99harmony no the rapture is not a secret its a promise it will only be secret to those who are not prepared to be taken up to be with the lord.
When is Gods wrath poured out on this world if not at the breaking of the first seal? His wrath we are not appointed to if we are expecting him at any moment. If you are not expecting him at any moment well then who are you looking for? The antichrist ? As for me im looking for the blessed hope to be snatched out of here and meet the lord in the air and go into the marriage feast for the following 7 years.
The 2nd coming will not be like a thief in the night all will see him in his glory the war will be finished by his coming. After the abomination its 3 1/2 years and jesus comes to set up his kingdom think about it if not even the son knows when he comes to take us to him why would he tell us this 1260 days .
@@gerard1954 y the confusion between god's wrath and tribulation in antichrist period?
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I've been talking to our children about these things. So much to being a Christian than merely attending a church.
Paul stated “comfort each other with these words....” I believe he would not have stated that had the tribulation been what we were waiting for!
Well some christian persecution is death so how can you be comforted if you're dead?
Excuse Me....The comfort being spoken of is that you will see your loved ones again.
@@daniticasimmons Philippians 1:21- For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Psalm 27 you said yourself Jacobs trouble, do you even know what that means ? And if you don’t read Hebrew don’t even try to say things actually the apostle Paul wrote there ...saved out from ..not go through and this is the first time in my life when I hear that apostle Paul when he wrote to the church of Thessalonians to encourage them he didn’t think that the rapture it won’t happen in his life time , the way he wrote its exact what he said , and since he believe that he told them to encourage one another with this words , as simple as that , why someone try to twist the truth 🤷♀️, Jacobs trouble means Israel s troubles and the purpose of the tribulation is for the Jewish nation , listen to a messianic Jews and he will tell you exactly what it is and why , may God bless everyone!!!
Chicken Nuggets no actually Paul comfort them becouse they thought that the rapture took place and they were left behind, read in 2Thessalonians what Paul wrote to the church
When Christ meets his Bride in the air, we go back to his Father's house with him, and his word says, we will always be with the Lord, at the end of the tribulation we come back to the earth with him, and he sets up his Kingdom on earth for a thousand years,
That is not what he is saying.
That is not what he is saying
That is not what he is saying.
That's not what the Bible says. Jesus comes back once, at the end of the age.
At the last trumpet LAST
It's not what R.C. Sproul thinks or feels will probably happen, NO! it's what Jesus said will happen.
It's quite obvious that R.C. Sproul did not fully understand Mathew (24:37-39) where Jesus tells of a pre-tribulation rapture.
The Lord told us that the last generation of Noah's day knew nothing of the flood/judgment until destruction came upon them, and even thus shall it be in the day when the son of man is revealed, (Luke 17:30.)
" AND KNEW NOT, " Jesus said. Mathew (24:39.)
This means that the lords coming judgment is going to come suddenly, and unexpectedly upon this last generation just as it did came upon the last generation of Noah's day.
The Lord also told us about the rapture/catching away, or the taking of the righteous out of the way before his wrath is unleashed on the earth, and said that it will all happen on the same day just as before.
Scripture tells us that if the lord does not prepare in advance a place for the righteous, he delivers them on the day of his judgment just as he delivered Lot the day when it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and Noah the day the flood came.
Scripture also told us that he use angels to take Lot and his family out of the way, and the Ark to take Noah and his family out of the way, only this time he's going to "RAPTURE" his family out of the way of his Wrath that is about to be poured out upon this last, and unexpecting generation.
Jesus also told us what the days would be like before his coming judgment.
He said but as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the day that Noah entered the Ark and knew not until the flood came and took them all away. So shall also the coming of the son of man be. Mathew (24:37-39.)
If we're not living in those days right now when it is still possible to eat and drink, buy and sell, plant and build, then those days will have to come after the tribulation which R.C. Sproul has suggested. And I'm quite sure that he knew exactly what Jesus said will happen immediately after the tribulation.
Jesus's account of what is going to happen and RC Sprouls's account of what is going to happen are not the same.
Also, we are NOT appointed unto the wrath of God which will come upon the whole world in the the tribulation! 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 9
Yes...he kinda forgot to mention this important verse....plus never mentioned that the church is not mentioned at all from Rev. 4 thru Rev. 19
The Tribulation is NOT the wrath of God. That is one of the false presumptions of the preTrib Rapture crowd. God’s wrath doesn’t happen until he is here to do it. (2 Thess). The Tribulation is Satan’s wrath on the Jews and Church…..then it ends with Christs return to bring his judgement. Read Matt 24 which is for us.
I would have had a million questions for Mr. Sproul. I love and respect him so much. I am a dispensationalist but I learned so much from his teachings. The consequence of ideas being one of my favorites. I do find it interesting, nowhere does the Bible come right out and say Jesus's return will happen in two stages rapture/planting his feet on the Mt. Of Olives, but nowhere does it come right out and say Jesus will come to earth twice, something we all believe. As a lamb to take away the sins of the world/on the clouds with great power and glory. I don't consider the rapture as his return at any rate. I believe the rapture is the rapture. An event that stands on its own. The mystery doctrine of Paul. And all previous doctrines of his return are spicific to his return where Israel says "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"
John, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
They’ll be no Rapture. PEROID. There is only one return of Christ Jesus & that is in judgement. If the church was raptured tomorrow who’s the Antichrist going to persecute? The ungodly? I don’t think so. The true church must go through great tribulation. It should be all joy for the child of God to suffer for the sake of the Gospel & for the testimony of Jesus Christ & him crucified. I would have no problem suffering for my saviour, because he suffered fo me.
@@hilarioushen4164 he persecutes israel. Thats why its the time of Jacob's trouble. And the rapture isnt a coming of christ. Its the rapture, because were not appointed to wrath. Nowhere does it explicitly state the messiah will come twice, but its implied. 2 thousand years ago, and at the second coming.
@@S3thousand hi John, I’m having trouble with revelation 7:9-14 this multitude that comes out of the great tribulation that’s not the Jews as they are the 144,000 mentioned previously in that chapter?
God’s return can be looked at in at least two ways, both ones fulfilled the prophecy of his return before the apostles perish.
First theory Christ died on the cross and went to paradise and returned in three days.
Second theory is he returned as the Holy Spirit and is governing his people. The Scriptures below was fulfilled on the cross.
1 Corinthians 15:23-25
English Standard Version
23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
I love rc sproul my fave teacher. His minister lives on!!
Blessed to have discovered this man of God
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Karabo, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
HERE is The Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Hello sir
For your consideration.
You said Paul gave no indication of a time of fulfillment in 1 cor 15:52 as Jesus gave on the Mount of Olives. I think Paul gave a specific time when he said at the last Trump. The Jews have a day every year on their calendar that they call the last trump - it is also called the hidden day because they did not know the day or hour it would occur.
I think the last trump means just that, at the end of the Millennium which this verse is talking about, no more death can only be at the end of the Millennium when everyone will receive a glorified body. The resurrection (receiving a glorified body) happens in three phases (not two). Christ the first fruits, then THOSE WHO ARE CHRIST'S (the rapture followed by the judgement seat of Christ where those qualified believers receive their glorified bodies, the rest [majority] go into outer darkness/2nd death), then comes the end (final resurrection) when He (Jesus) delivers up the kingdom (end of the Millennium) to the father, and everyone gets their glorified bodies. This is what 1 Cor 15.51/52 is talking about, not the rapture.
The end of the Millennium does not have a resurrection for the righteous (Rev 20:4-6), only the wicked. I see only one resurrection (John 11:24, 6:39-54). 1 Thes 4 has a resurrection. One taken, one left does not have a resurrection (Luke 17:37) and it is pre-trib. Eating, drinking, buying, selling, planting, building and getting married will be greatly diminished at the end of the tribulation. We don't know the day or hour of the one taken, one left event. Everybody is hiding in a cave, knows the Lamb of God is coming (Rev 6:15-17) and is freaking out (Luke 21:26) at the second coming. Two different events. Maranatha!
@@onetakendotnet Do you think the ones that are born in the Millennium are all evil, no righteous ones? I think Christians read a lot into scriptures, what the word does not say. There are only 3 resurrections with the change of the body (1. Cor 15:23+24).
What does Rev 6:12-17 tell us? The sun and moon is darkened and the stars are falling from Heaven, that is the same as Mat 24:29, His 2. coming. The mountains and islands are removed, the same as Rev 16:20, again His 2. coming. Rev 16:15 at the 7th vial the Lord is coming as a thief.
Luke 17:29+30 says that both salvation and destruction were on the same day and likewise it will happen at His coming. There is only one coming of the Lord after the Great Tribulation (Mat 24:29-31) and Paul says the same, after the AC is revealed (2.Thess 2:1-4). 2.Thess 2:1 tells us that the Day of the Lord is His parousia=advent=2.coming and our gathering unto Him. It is one day with evening and morning, 24 hours (Zech 14:7-9).
The hiding in caves happens after the world wide earthquake, where the earth is shaken and went out of its place and the cities are destroyed, that is at His 2. coming, when His Wrath comes (Rev 6:16+17) immediately after the Rapture. Two different events the same day. The Rapture happens at His 2. coming as the Lord taught in Mat 24:29-31, there is no other coming in the bible, only believe.
@@benny-yj7pq thanks for the reply.
>> Do you think the ones that are born in the Millennium are all evil, no righteous ones?
I would think there will be a mix of righteous and wicked at the end of the millennium.
>> There are only 3 resurrections with the change of the body
I only see one for the resurrection for righteous (John 6:39-54, 11:24, Rev 20:4-6). Always singular, not plural. Maybe you are saying there are three sets of verses talking about the one event?
>> Luke 17:29+30 says that both salvation and destruction were on the same day
I see a time gap between the "salvation and destruction." Lot and his family had to get out of town first. I doubt the cities were destroyed the second he left the city gates. Noah was in the ark for seven days before it started to rain. When the flood started I would think many survived for days, weeks until they ran out of dry ground or their makeshift rafts capsized.
>> It is one day with evening and morning, 24 hours (Zech 14:7-9).
I would agree the culmination of the Day of the Lord ends with the second coming but the destruction in the great tribulation is going to last for more than 24 hours. It will be like a woman in labor. The pains come and go with greater and greater duration and intensity until the baby is born (Jesus is seen in the clouds coming in great power and glory). As the seven years progress, famines and droughts (as opposed to eating, drinking), hyperinflation (as opposed to buying, selling), earthquakes, violent storms and heat (as opposed to planting, building), love will grow cold (as opposed to getting married) will grow in intensity as the tribulation progresses. One taken, one left happens when nobody suspects anything supernatural is going to happen. There will be mockers saying, 'Where is the coming?" They will be hiding in caves for much longer than 24 hours.
Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready. You’re on the right track.
When is the Rapture? The Scripture is clear if read in its full context: during "The Day of the LORD" (1Th 4:17-5:2, 2Th 2:1-2)
Bless your ministry. It is a daily watch for me. It has also solidified my beliefs from the Bible. Even where I may feel differently it lets me know why
James White debates will help also.
A simple reading of Revelation(which was a vision written in chronological order) leads to PreTrib Rapture.
Not a reason to divide over, though. Love me some R.C. Sproul
Not written in chronological order.
Over 30,000 Christian sects. Which one correct? Difference between Paul’s vision and Joseph Smith’s? An opinion.
It's very clear in the Gospels of when the "rapture" / resurrection occurs. Jesus said four times in the Gospels.... I will raise you up at the Last Day. Meaning, the last 24-hours of history or of time. No secret rapture, no two returns... one return, and one bodily resurrection and one transformation of those who are alive into a their new creation bodies.
Rich, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
1Cor 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Rapture of the church
Rapture of 144000
Rapture of 2 witnesses
Rapture of the trib saints - last trump
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Agree Rich!
Did you hear his Freudian slip? Let's argue 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don't believe in the rapture..
The LORD IS getting my mind prepared. So I know it's really really close. NO GOLD NO SILVER NO BITCOIN Just LUKE 21:36🙏👼💁
Be ready for both scenarios
Kenny - I’m with you on this one. I have faith in Jesus Christ, but not in my ability to figure everything out. Lotsa people in the world know everything about everything and aren’t shy about telling you so... I ain’t one of ‘em. I was raised in a pre-trib rapture church and was convinced of a rapture then. Later I spent 19 years in a partial preterist no rapture church and was convinced there too. Now I just say “I don’t know, but I’m leaving on the first bus out of here.”
Great Teaching DR. Clear and presice overview
I agree with Dr. Sproul's presentation. However, when he criticizes the partial preterists for spiritualizing the second coming of the Lord, he is guilty of the same thing when he talks about the Millennium in the Book of Revelation. The problem with most Reformed Theologians is that even though they got the doctrine of God and Salvation right, they simply continued embracing the Augustian and Aquinian view of biblical prophecy when it came to the End Times. It wasn't till the third wave of the Reformation, that of the Anabaptists, that the correct doctrine of believers baptism and a futuristic view of the End Times began to be taught. Infant Baptism is merely a carry over of the Catholic ritual. You see it in the Lutheran and Reformed traditions. Apparently, that aspect of theology was not a priority during the initial stages of the Reformation. Unfortunately, they never really took the time to examine the two doctrines from a fresh perspective, despite the fact that the NT is so clear regarding believers baptism by immersion as Paul illustrates it in Romans 6.
Interesting point
So Anabaptists have it right?
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My only hope is Jesus. Hope He takes us out soon. I have no home here, but I have a home in heaven with Jesus.
I don't understand anyone teaching eschatology as if they know for sure how their OPINION of it will turn out. Jesus spoke expressly against this. His eschatology consists of,
'I am coming back, but no one will know when, in fact I'll come when you least expect it. So, BE READY!'
Anyone teaching anything different as absolute truth is teaching another gospel.
I'm wondering where we will be "raptured" to if we have already been raised up into heavenly places in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:5,6).
I have the same question.
I am not seeing a direct scriptural reason for rapture being comfortable or good... It could and i love an optimist... But my intuition is telling me rapture could very well be believers being taken away and concentrated in prison camps.
@@JD-hi8qx The teaching is unscriptural. To accept the doctrine of the rapture is to accept all the false teachings surrounding it. Jesus says all eyes will behold him and as the lightning flashes out of the east to the west so shall the coming of the son of man be.
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth but who says it is scriptural or not? Who gets to be the definitive decider?
@@JD-hi8qx The Bible which is the word of God. God is HIS word and HIS word is He. John 1:1, Psalm 138:2.
Oh what an amazing day that will be...to be with the LORD...pure HOLY love.. HIS pure grace... our pure joy. .. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❣❤🙏😄
Amazing when it happens, even after the tribulation of those days! Mat24:29
Wayne, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
This is the problem in America. Psychoanalyzing the Word of God. These men dig in lot the Scripture and try to interpret It with their human wisdom.
If you give those passage to a simple believer, they will read this: Jesus is coming back in the clouds and the dead in Christ will join Him first and those alive right after….to escape the wrath of the father and the great tribulation that is pertained to the Jewish people. 1/3 of them will accept the Messiah. Then Jesus and the Church (Jews and gentils together) will come back and stop the carnage. He will lock up Satan for a millennium during which Jesus will reign on earth with the people His chose. The comes the great white throne where Jesus is going to judge the nations (who were not raptured and those born during the millenium), Satan, the False prophet, the beast and Death.
After that, the earth and heaven will be destroyed. The new earth and heaven will be established where the saved people from the great tribulation and those born during the millenium will leave in. The New Jerusalem will come down from Heaven, where God and the Bride of Christ, those who were raptured (Saved by Grace between the cross and rapture/old and new treatment people), will dwell.
There…
He doesn’t believe some believers will not see death, like Enoch and Elijah. He doesn’t believe that God often times takes away into safety His people before a destruction.
The tribulation is not Gods wrath it is the work of man under the antichrist. The wrath of God happens after the second coming and the rapture
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@mal'ak emeth why start so negative, whatch yourself cause one day God will expose your doings!
Amen Sis! I'm a son of the Light - Jesus Christ, our Savior and KING!
See you with YHWH Yeshua in the Heaven!
@mal'ak emeth Just your tone and how you are Passive Aggressive. Looks like, You like pointing fingers at people, you filled with Ego and pride, you act as you are so so perfect, Shame on you! Yes we should Be Repentant, but the way you started this conversation, as so unnecessarily aggressive. Will push people away, you will have to answer to Jesus one day for how foolish and unloving your approach was. You can inform them in a better more gentle way, let them understand, You just like to feed your Ego. I rebuke you the Spirit of Pride in Jesus name!
@mal'ak emeth Good job exposing yourself as who you really are, you are a servant of satan! Hopefully you change before its too late, that's it im not going to respond to you again you are a Fool.
mal'ak emeth i guess you mean it positively, bc you want people to be really saved and not decevied and I appreciate you for that, but tou are kinda being a legalistic pharisee and dont get me wrong i am guilty of this too
My first reaction is, Jesus isn't coming back in triumph and entering into his city. He's coming back to deal with the Anti-Christ and Israel. AND THEN he is triumphant. He's coming back to do battle, not to triumphantly claim his throne after a battle. He's coming back as warrior Jesus, not triumphant and ready to enter the city for a ticker-tape parade. So why would the Church go up to meet him as he's coming down, and continue on down with him "in glory"? He's coming back to essentially unleash a bloodbath, not to show off after a triumphant battle. It makes more sense that the Church would be raptured out before the Tribulation, and then return with Christ to take part in that final battle. What am I missing?
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This verse proves Jesus has already come back the 2nd time. “But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”” (Mar 14:61-62, NASB)
I don't get it
What? 🤨
The High Priest would see Jesus come back at his second coming while the High Priest was still alive.
Question?? ..... Sproul said "Paul does not say that the Christians will be caught up in the air and then stay up in the air with Jesus....... So ... what does this scripture mean? .....
John 14:3 “And if I GO and PREPARE A PLACE for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE you unto myself; that WHERE I am, THERE ye may be also.” ... Where is Jesus right NOW? ... that's WHERE we are going ....
As much as I love R.C's teaching on the holiness of God and election, Eschatology is not his strong area in fact his own understanding of it has proven spurious at best. He makes the statement that the church that is called up for the rapture will not remain with the Lord and yet that is exactly what Paul says in 1Thes 4 " and there they will ever be" indeed the church will return with the Lord at His 2nd coming (the rapture is not the 2nd coming for we meet Him in the clouds). I miss RC but not his eschatology, he gets that quite wrong!
If the Dispenstionalsist position is correct, then Jesus is a false prophet. There's no other way to say it. Did He or did He not promise the priests at His trial that they would see Him come with Power? Now, either they saw the judgement or they didn't. Which is it?
@@waltjones40 It's a problem or Hermeneutics, the judgment only spoken about in this context in Matt 24 is at the end of the age and not in the same time as Mark and Luke they are referring to the coming Kingdom or the "church age" in acts.
Jim, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
@@bill7101 read the BIBLE in order to be "false teacher ready"!
He does not adequately resolve Revelation 13..... Particularly Revelation 13:8. (Hint - As in the time of Noah!)
I don’t agree with his understanding of the rapture. One needs to understand the feasts of the Lord as found in Leviticus 23. Christ fulfilled the first four feasts precisely in His first coming. The next three feasts are the Feast of Trumpets (rapture) the day of Atonement or Yom Kippur ( second coming) and the Feast of Tabernacles - God with us in the Millenium reign of Christ. John 14: 1-4 is Christ’s promise to return for His bride, the church. This occurs before the Tribulation and is followed by the wedding supper of the Lamb in heaven, before Christ returns with His saints in the Second Coming.
Preterism? RC should have read his Bible more and his seminary notes less
1) Where does the Bible say, "Jesus returned in 70 AD"?
2) The sun darkened and the moon into blood before "The Day of the LORD" (Acts 2:20, Joel 2:31), the day, when Scripture asserts Jesus will come to "Harpadzo" (Rapture-Rescue) His people (1Th 4:17-5:2, 2Th 2:1-2), just before the "Wrath of God" (Rev 16) falls from heaven, to destroy all the wicked and ungodly (Is 13:6-15, Jer 46:10, Joel 1:15), like when the wrath of God fell in the days of Noah and Lot (Mt 24:38-39, Lk 17:26-30) immediately after Noah and Lot were safely protected from the wrath God, when it feel from heaven in their day.
Anyone answer this specially the none believer of the rapture??? Is this connected to the rapture or not?
Mat 24:40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
I believe the rapture. But this passages refers to wicked being taken (in judgment) and the righteous left (spared from God's wrath), just like the wicked were taken away in the flood, leaving Noah & his family (verse 38-39).
Did you know that one taken and one left they are both believers. Read verse 42-51. Jesus is speaking of believers one is a sensible slave the other is a evil slave. Why is he a evil slave because he becomes involved in other things .he left his first love. Verse 48 and 49 day what he did. As to the taken and left the ones taken or unbelievers the ones left are believers. Look at Luke chapter 17 first 26 it talks about the days of Noah and the days of lot. It says the rain down fire and brimstone and destroyed them all they were taken off the face of the Earth only lot and his family were left on the Earth. The flood came and destroyed them all the unbelievers were removed from the earth in other words they were taken away only Noah was left on the Earth. Look at Genesis chapter 7 verse 23 it says Noah was left on the Earth. Jesus said when he comes back it's going to be the same way the evil are removed from the Earth another word taken off the Earth they no longer are here on the Earth just as the unbelievers were removed from the earth in the days of Noah and lot. When you read read a couple verses out of context you can really twist scripture you need to read the whole context surrounding the versus you read to understand what Jesus is says to get the complete understanding of what he's trying to say. people totally misinterpret these versus one taken one left. But when you read the verses surrounding those verses you will get the complete picture of what he's trying to say. This principal goes for the whole Bible. God Bless
Kelvin, it’s not the Rapture.. it’s the harvesting of the grapes of wrath.. Luke 21 speaks of the Rapture.. Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
This is about judgement of sinners. The ones taken are removed or eliminated for judgement, while the left behind are the righteous.
The end of the Church Age is when Jesus comes for his bride like a thief in the night and snatches his bride away.
Jesus… like a thief in the night?????
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It’s what the scriptures say. No one left behind will see him - only those snatched away. At his second coming with the saints to rescue remnant Israel all eyes will see him - towards the end of the great tribulation.
@@5p1tf1r31 "Like a thief in the night" doesn't mean unseen, reading the text, the Lord himself explains this has to do with knowledge read Matthew 24:43 in context. Do not be deceived, there will be no "secret rapture". The rapture will happen immediately after the first resurrection that will take place at His coming.
@@5p1tf1r31 that's not scriptural at all buddy. The thief passages are in regard to Jesus coming with judgement, not of him snatching the Church away.
200 years ago no one held this view.
Thanks Darby for corruption I know you meant no harm
Useless speculations when we should be focused on reaching the lost and living a righteous life ourselves. We are here now and we have a job to do! Sufficient each day are the troubles that it brings do not worry about the future!
Amen
Do not believe it's A SALVATION issue. Thank you for your response.
The rapture happens in (matt.24:29-31) at the seventh trumpet, which is the last TRUMPH.
The rapture is the second coming! They are not separate events.
Jesus Will Not Rapture Part Of The Saints And 7 Yrs Later Rapture The Rest, Jesus Said The Rapture Will Happen As He Said In ( Matt: 24: 29-31)
@@kgmail7364 you are wrong plain and simple
@@donniegatlin6957 The 24th chapter of Matthew addresses the 2nd coming, not the rapture. First, the church did not even exist yet, and Christ had not yet been crucified, when the Olivet Discourse was given. The apostle Paul (years later) taught that the rapture was a secret mystery. (You have to look into the Koine Greek words to understand some of that). It was revealed first to Paul! Please study your Bible, and verify what Bible teachers are telling you, because some of them are wrong.
THERE'S NO THREE RESURRECTION, ACORDING TO YOUR BELIEVE, IF YOU BELIEVE THE RAPTURE, HAPPENS AND THEN 7 YEARS LATER ( MATT 24: 29-32 ) HAPPENS, AND A 1000 YEARS LATER THE RESURRECTION OF THE LOST PEOPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE 3 RESURRECTION, THE RAPTURE HAPPENS ST THE 7 the TRUMPH,, WHICH IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION, THEN A 1000 YEARS LATER THE SECOND RESURRECTION THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD UNSAVED.
No "rapture"/gathering together unto the Lord /Return of Christ until AFTER the Abomination.
Jesus says so. Matthew 24:15-31.
Holy Spirit via Paul says so. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8.
Who then is the army who comes back with Christ?
@@swansonseven2851 The Holy Ones are His Angels
Malita Gerber
can you help answer a question for me? When in the timeline you presented, does the church get caught up? If we stay to Armageddon, get caught up and turn right back around and come back (I’m assuming there wouldn’t be too many to come back for at that point because all of us will have been martyred)...at that point you would have only the people who took the mark left. So at Armageddon we come back with Him, and he casts the beast, false prophet, and all those who took the mark into the pit. So all who are saved have been taken up. All those who have taken the mark are cast away. Who goes into the millennium with un-glorified bodies to reproduce and refill the earth? Who will we reign over in the millennium? There is no one left.
In Josephus’ record of The Wars of The Jews there are plenty of abominations going on in Jerusalem by The Zealots for three and a half years before the Romans finally broke through in the last five months.
@@swansonseven2851The rapture is on the last day and the last trumpet which is after the tribulation period. 2 Peter 3:10 makes it clear what happens to the heavens and earth after the "thief in the night". After the earth is cleansed by fire, the new Jerusalem will arrive. Jesus second coming is not Him alone but with all the angels in heaven. I plan to meet him at His arrival don't you?
Wow..I can hear this over and over and over again...
There was a resurrection when Jesus died.
Matthew 27:52 The tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 After his resurrection they came out of their tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many.
Very few ever mention that.
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I know. It's been there for 2000 years and nobody knows about it....... except me.........and now you.
They were raised from the dead. No glorified body and no catching away.
It amazes me how major teachers such as Perry stone, john hagee, and other television teachers, supposedly Led by the Holy Spirit, can then misinterpret the written scriptures and fall for the pre _tribulation doctrine! When it is clearly stated in the word of God that the rapture occurs at the last trumpet blast at the end of the tribulation period known as Jacobs trouble? Jesus taught the church that the Day of the lord comes at the end of the tribulation period!
@ Capt. Mike Edwards: It amazes me that people confuse the Rapture (rapturos in Greek) and the Day of the Lord (final judgement and physical appearance of JC when all eyes shall see Him). The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah. When Noah got in the ark (parallel to the number of the Gentiles being fulfilled) God shut the door (the moment of Rapture). Then they were safe from God's wrath (which is what the Bible talks about as well). So as the judgement poured down, the Ark was above the waters (the church lifted in the air). I can only imagine the disappearance of thousands of people and then the Antichrist being revealed. The power of the Restrainer is now at work still, but when the Church is gone then there will be nothing to hinder the complete unleash of Evil of all the powers, dominions, and principalities that govern this world. Then the coming plagues as described in the book of Revelations...oh my! God said He is going to send His angels to gather His people from all the 'corners' of the earth, separating the wheat from the chaff, so that the wheat is stored and the chaff is burned. He will not judge the just with the unjust/unrighteous. The Bible explains itself and so far pre-trib matches all the allegories and also God's promises and prophecies. Thankfully this issue is not about salvation so whatever people understand from these passages make no difference to our eternity with Christ.
I am amazed at the inconsistencies and theological holes in partial preterism.
It amazes me how people are amazed about a divide in theology that has existed for the past 2000 years.
@@DZ-gq6jv if you believe floating on water is akin to the rapture then buy a boat and live the rest of your life on the ocean...you'll be raptured.
I Thess 4: 16 says the sound of a trumpet, not the last trumpet; and in the context of believers, not Israel....
What of John 14: 1-3
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
It sure sounds like we go to be in Heaven with Jesus for the 7 years while the earth is going through the tribulation. Thus the reason our bodies must be changed to dwell with Jesus in Heaven as per John 14.
1 Corinthians 15:53
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
So therefore you believe in two resurrections? Jesus would come twice? Once as a thief in the night and again in all Power and Glory? Then you must ignore Hebrews 9:28 and 2 Peter 3:10 which disputes that idea.
I am a full preterist... Thank you, Dr. Sproul, for you contribution to my journey. See you some day.
How can you believe everything prophesied happened? Where is Daniel's missing week and The Revelation events recorded in any History?!
@@hildapage7065 Hello Hilda, I am not going to get into a long drug out response, I have learned, in general, people believe what they have been taught all their lives. Here are 4 bible verses (there are hundreds more) that no futurist can answer in a definitive, logical way.
1. Set aside what you have been taught for 15 minutes and read the first 5 verses of Revelation and ask yourself, who was the Revelation written too and pay attention to the message of imminence in the first 5 verses. The biblical translators of the NT had a reason they used words such as "soon" and "near". The two Greek words translated as "soon and near" mean exactly that............not 2000 years and counting. Therefore, I believe the author of the NT document.
2. Matthew 16:28...............Some of those people in Jesus' audience that day are not still living today. Therefore I believe When Jesus told his audience, "some standing here" (that day in his audience) would live to see his return.
3. Matthew 10:23....................The people (the 12) given the commission to go to the cities of Israel (not to the gentiles, but the lost sheep of Israel) would not finish their mission prior Jesus' return. I believe Jesus, not what I have been taught all of my life.
4. Matthew 24:34.......................Who was the audience when Jesus spoke those words? What were the specific questions presented to Jesus? When did Jesus say it would occur? I believe Jesus, not the many preachers, teachers and end time pendants who taught me all of my life.
Mr. Sproul was key in helping me to reach the conclusions I have reached back in the ealy 2000's. His presentation, if studied out to its logical conclusion's along with the biblical text is paramount to defend the deity of Christ and the Inspiration/authority of scripture from the atheist and agnostics along with end time prophecy pundits.
Good luck in your journey!
@@godsdozer I don't get it, so what comes next in our current present timeline?
@@misterbobby8913 UA-cam, Don K. Preston............ There is volumes of information at your disposal.
Very Interesting! So if all who receive the mark of the beast are to be condemned, how do the believers stay alive during the tribulation? Where do the triumphant witnesses stand? If all who do not accept the mark of the beast are killed, who are those of us who are still alive at his return?
Good question.
Most won't live completely through the GT. Those Christians are known as the 'Tribulation Saints' who are Believers, that will be martyred as witness for their faith in Christ for rejecting the mark of the beast. Believers/Christians are the only ones who will have the power to reject the Antichrist and his mark because the Holy Spirit, who is not the Restrainer, abides in them. Enduring to the end is not referring to living through the entire GT until Jesus returns. Enduring to the end is not departing from the faith or denouncing Christ, even in the face of death. There will still be Christians on the earth when Christ returns. Death/Martyrdom IS triumphant, as scripture states that 'they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and loved not their lives even unto death... Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. -Psalm 116:15...Martyrdom is the highest honor a Christian will receive and since the first Christian martyr Stephen, ALL of them are still under the Mercy Seat until the last Brother/Sister in Christ is killed for their faith and American Christians are not exempt...Buckle up now because the One World Religion has officially been created (Chrislam) and will spread rapidly across the world soon even in America and the Church will be here...
How can there be a pretrib rapture when the "first resurrection" (Rev. 20) is after the reign of terror of the Beast? Notice that those raised up were beheaded by the Beast. So how is it pretrib??
Believed also in a pre trib rapture but after reading a few times in Revelation and what Jesus said about the end of times I don't believe in pretrib rapture anymore. It's so clear in the Bible about how the church is going to suffer in those times. We will have the sign of Holy Ghost to protect us. We have to spread the Gospel and witness even then.
@@yoperau9823 Well said. If we dwell in the secret place of the Most High, he will protect us from the plagues (Psalm 91).
Would be impossible for the elect to be possibly deceived if they're not here.
mal'ak emeth thank you for posting this, it’s what I’ve been taught, also there are 2 events that this pastor missed, the catching away of the church...Jesus meets the saints in the air...the return of Jesus, His feet touch the mount of olives. The church is not mentioned after chapter 4 in Revelation,which means that the marriage supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven. Is that marriage celebration going to be 7 years, going by the 7 days feast of the Jewish marriage on earth? Can you shed some light? Or did I miss this completely?
mal'ak emeth can’t get no plainer than that!! God bless!
mal'ak emeth amen amen! Ears to hear
mal'ak emeth
Best break down I’ve heard so far of pre trib.
Question? So does this mean that any Luke warm Christian left behind will not have any chance to repent and be saved?
You’re saying it’s only Jews that will be saved after the rapture, correct?
mal'ak emeth
I would like to talk to you if possible.
I don’t want to leave my # on here but if I leave my email would you contact me, so I can give you #?
Unless you can think of a better way of exchanging this info privately
Been waiting 22 years for my reward from god,please pray for me,thank you!!!
mal'ak emeth look at yourself
mal'ak emeth I quoted Gods word on another comment full of your babbling and you didn’t want to hear it. I’m not even going to read your self righteous rant.
mal'ak emeth God will humble you...again by the looks of things
mal'ak emeth God will one day reveal to you how to be a real fisher of men. God cares nothing of your knowledge...Satan knows all that you do and more.
Michel, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.
When Jesus comes 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 He resurrects the righteous dead and translates the living righteous. The already dead unrighteous remain dead at Jesus’ coming. The living unrighteous are destroyed at His coming. We spend 1000 years with Christ in heaven and learn why are loved ones did not make it. Rev 20 those that don’t go along with the beast reign with Christ for a thousand years! The rest of the dead live not till after the thousand years. Satan is bound for a thousand years and unable to tempt anyone. Blessed is he who hath part in the first resurrection for the second one (after the thousand years) does not lead to life everlasting.
There is no second chance you are either ready at Jesus coming or you’re not as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be the days with the son of man you were either ready in the ark or you’re outside the ark and you died that is how it will be at the end of time ! People who teach a rapture for one group and then a second chance after the millennium for another group is not teaching truth that’s not what the Bible says. Read it. It’s in revelation 20 it’s very clear.
Thank you. I was talking to my mom about this earlier and she is knee deep in rapture theology. I dont argue but I just let her speak and I keep her in my prayers.
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