Classic Marshall Heads! - Silver Jubilee 2525H vs JCM800
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
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» 0:00 Intro
» 1:45 The Guitars!
» 2:55 The Heads & Cab
» 3:22 The JCM 800
» 6:06 The Silver Jubilee
» 9:35 Let's Compare!
» 14:35 Adding the Tube Screamer!
» 17:32 How About Using a Strat!
» 22:58 Discussing the Marshall Sound!
» 24:45 Lets Hear Them Again!
» 26:34 The Low Wattage Mode?
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Marshall Amplification moved to Bletchley in 1967 and have remained there ever since. I was brought up in Bletchley and my parents bought a house there in the late 50’s. My father was a Bletchley Park Veteran, serving there during the war. When he left the service they opened a Newsagents and Tobacconist in Bletchley. Jim Marshall was one of their customers. Marshall had a show room in Queensway, Bletchley High Street, then and we often gawked in the window. Jim was always very friendly and polite my parents said. I met him years later in Penrith at a Guitar Show. Sadly he was quite Ill then and in a wheelchair. Jim Marshall MBE, Marshall Amplification, Bletchley, England.
Wow thanks for sharing your story
I just picked up a silver jubilee last week and its amazing. Straight forward controls, plenty of power to gig with and nasty tones. I love it
This is the most interesting Marshalls in the last 20 years, amazing products for the price.
Very interesting package indeed - the amps themselves are just reissues though, aren't they? I'd say when talking about special Marshall products of the last 20 years, the JVM is the most interesting contender for me. Sure, it's not for everyone but I have yet to see such a versatile, complete amp with that build quality at the very good pricepoint from another amp manufacturer.
Most interesting, yes. For the price? No.
They are marketed as Made in England and priced accordingly, but from what I've seen, they are basically on par with the Origin Series.
The JCM800 is exactly the amp I want, but dropping nearly 1k on a 20w single channel amp with most of it probably made in Vietnam is just insane.
Aside from marketing and the quality of the cab there is no reason why these are not DSL / Origin priced.
I'm so glad you guys posted this video! I've been trying to get my Kemper dialed in on both a JCM800 tone and a Silver Jubilee tone. Without either of the actual amps for reference, I had no idea if I was getting close. I'm spot on! Thanks!
The Silver Jubilee sounds best imo. More versatile, but also fuller and bolder, while the 800 was a bit thin and raspy, for a better word. And yes, the Jubilee is indeed footswitchable. 😉
Reminds me of 1987 when I had to choose between a new JCM800 or Silver Jubilee. Went with former as it looked more Marshally ha ha
Thanks guys for making me realize I need another Marshall!
Pete is really making those amp shine at their best! Appreciated the talent
The Marshall tone is such a "Main Character" kind of sound, it's like this amp is designed to make any guitar cut through the mix and stand out right in the middle with a spotlight in any band environment
Great demo. Great playing! Love these amps!
That silver jubilee sounds brilliant! Love it!
Thanks for using the same Cab with both the amps, most people do amp shoot outs and use completely different Cabs not realizing that the Cab is actually 70% of the sound. Its amazing how these amps come alive with the tube screamer ON, is there anything better than a single coil pickup and slightly driven amp with a TS style pedal boosting just a notch, Straight up my favorite guitar sound of all time.
PS: Pete teasing some Master of Puppets, never expected this in my wildest dreams. xD
I have the SV20 and it does the Plexi thing perfectly! I'll keep that amp in my studio forever!
I could listen to these guys jam all day long 🔥
I'm actually very surprised as to how much common ground they cover! With that said I'm super glad I bought the Jubilee! The more versatile amp and to me its just MORE on everything!.
I have an original Jubilee which I bought new in 1987. Incredible amp
Hi guys, I have Two Jubilee's, from '87'... a 2550 Head and a 2554 Combo and on the back panel there is a footswitch input jack for Cannel Switching......it should be on your newer versions...go look.
Just say"in.....Old Sound Guy from Detroit....The Cheerful ' One ' Art.
They definitely have that marshall 'squeak', I love it! They really sound great.
Of the new amps, I've owned the Origin, the SV20H and the SC20H. The SC20H is the only one I still own, and it's my main amp. Absolutely love it! I only play 60's and 70's Classic Rock along with some blues, so I never considered the Jube. Good job guys! Watch all your episodes. Next time I'm in England....
The Silver Jubilee is superb
Why did you sell the plexi? Just curious, I'm planning on buying one
@@JoseMontero-gt3rkI was anti-attenuator at the time and they are SO loud when trying to hit a sweet spot of tone. My absolute favorite Marshall circuit is the JCM 800. All 3 of those I have are MV. Easier to hit MY tones. But I now have an attenuator for the one non-MV amp I have. Not perfect, but still a good option to have. My opinion is, if you want one of those, be willing to attach an attenuator, or close the cabinet in an isolation box, or whatever allows you to crank it and not go deaf.
Marshall also released a bass amp called Marshall Silver Jubilee 3560 in 1987. I still got both my 2550 & my 3560 heads 🤘🏼☠️🤘🏼
Played this jcm studio and a 59 Murphy lab les Paul this weekend and it sounded EXACTLY like the tones in this video!
The Silver Jubilee is just oozing style. Man that’s awesome looking.
Picked up a silver jubilee 20W combo with the greenback in 2020 for $800. Absolutely worth every penny. I love the versatility and when you really dime it out in the lead channel it SINGS.
Good deal. Cant find one anywhere near that price
That's a really fair price.
The strat sounded fantastic through those. I do be loving single coils tho
Yup, truly amazing amps. Classics for a reason.
Something magical about a strat into a Marshall.
I have the SV20H and an original 1987 Silver Jubilee 2554 combo.So much ground covered.The Jubilee is far more versatile than shown here.The EQ is superb.
Got the Jub, love it. Perfect rock amp. Needs to be driven pretty hard like all Marshalls though to my ears. The EQ is super sensitive compared to the 800 though so I wouldn’t have left it sat around noon. There are definitely flaws with it though. The balance between clean and lead sounds isn’t quite right and it gets worse when you engage the rhythm clip (which I never use btw).
Hey Captain, Hey Pete. Two video ideas:
1. JCM800 on matching 212 cab vs. DSL20HR on matching 212 cab.
2. Blackstar Fly3 vs. Boss Katana Mini vs. Laney Mini STB vs. Whaterer else in that class that's not Marshall MS2 :D
Wow Pete’s tone was straight up Stevie ray. Sounded amazing.
The silver jubilee comes with a foot switch to switch channels. I use my small EVH LBX-S switch because it's much smaller.
For me Strat>Tube Screamer > 800 . Great playing Pete !
The Captain coming in with the spicy guitar playing!!!
Love Pete's playing. Really versatile and adapts brilliantly to whatever gear he's showing off.
They sound lovely. I have the 800 and it’s an awesome amp, but I would have loved to see Pete play a Jackson, Charvel or Ibanez in front of it. Something pointy to go with the era.
That Jubilee sounded amazing…
Please do a demo on the Friedman twin sister and Be-100 Deluxe. Really torn between them.
I ended up with a slo 30 and a sv20. Push them both through a 4x12 in stereo so 2 speakers per amp. It’s glorious. All the sounds I need for my style. Not cheap, but I have no need to chase amps anymore. My time is ticking so I had to pull the trigger so I would stop making excuses as to why I wasn’t writing (ie. waiting to find my sound). Haha.
Fantastic combination. I consider the SLO30 the greatest low wattage amp out there right now. Having said that, I own the SV20H although I did have Dave Friedman sweeten it up a bit and it sounds great.
@@jahjah67 The slo30 is soooooooo good. Worth every penny. There’s something to be said about walking through a music store , checking out the amps and going….meh, I’m good. :) I do enjoy the Friedmans, though.
@@jahjah67 what did you have done to your sv20 if you don’t mind me asking?
@@strangelet4588 I think that’s his secret sauce-he doesn’t reveal exactly what he does. I never played the amp stock to compare but I’ve heard many on UA-cam and there’s a slight harshness. Dave takes that out with what he does. My amp sounds balanced and sweet. Plus I think Dave has the best ears in the business. He tunes each amp to sound their best instead of doing a stock modification. He didn’t add any gain to mine, he just made it sound more vintage and it sounds wonderful
@@jahjah67 👍. Well enjoy! They are great amps.
They both sound killer
Edge of breakup is my love indeed. If it cleans up at volume (Guitar volume knob) at 5, I’m all in.
2205 and 2210 were the first with an effects loop. They are the awesome forgotten 800.
I had the 2205 regrettably sold it😔
Still have my 2210 stack. It's a thunderous beast.
I also had a 2205 that I sold...I miss it, but it was just too loud to use only at home.
They sound killer!
That speaker cab isn't doing any favors for either amp.
They have two microphones on the cab and didn’t move one around to eliminate that phase cancellation issue.
Very cool Amps Comparison. I only have an MG15MSII Mini Stack, The Overdrive channel on this amp is still one of my favorite Driven Sounds (But I still have way too many Overdrive/Distortion Pedals, that are basically Redundant. LOL)
Wow, those amps sound amazing!🔥🔥🔥
I have the 100 watt jubilee. A boost like a klon or sd1 into the lead channel sounds epic. Love it
The jubilee is a misunderstood amp. Once you figure it out it’s one of the best amps going
I have found my "sound" in the fender brown face amps, but if I ever get the chance I want a silver jubilee so bad, I hear Bonamassa in that amp and to me that's a good thing.
I have this exact jubilee and love it, it covers 80% of the tones i search for, just need a nice fender twin now and im there haha
I have those two amps. I plan to use them together and a/b for distortion/clean switching.
Epic tones!!!
Captains chops are gaining strength 😮
The neck pickup on the les paul lee is using sounds killer . Sounds like vintage PAF style tone me .
I put Custombuckers in 2 of my Epi 59 and they sound even better now than they already did and they sounded excellent stock . I have 4 Epi 59s and i left 2 of them stock and put Custombuckers in the other 2 ..
There is some kind of phase shift in the mic'd sound. Sounds like the cab microphones are not set properly.
Yeah. I’m surprised when they were in post before uploading this they didn’t mute one of those mics.
I had an original 1987 2558 Silver Jubilee (2-12 50w combo). I loved it for the first few gigs, but the longer I owned it the more I grew to hate it. Hearing this, I remember exactly why. There's just too much of that sizzling-bacon bright character to the distortion. It gets on your nerves after a while. Also the shared EQ was a problem because set it up to sound great on the dirty channel, and it sounds like hell on clean and vice versa. (Note this "reissue" is quite different, in that the original's clean channel was dead-clean all the way to wide-open, unless you engaged the "rhythm clip" by pulling out a knob).
My next amp purchase was a Bogner Shiva. Now THAT's a tricked-out 800!!
Silver Jubilee is my dream amp!!!🤘😎👍
It's better to leave the jubilee in the 20W setting and turn down the master a tiny bit than to set it to the 5W mode. The 20W jubilee is just as good as a home amp as the 1Watt DSL but with way more headroom.
U guys should do a blind fold video with all the studio series and the bigger brothers
Sounds like there is some phasing issue. Probably the two mics not lined up properly. Very hollow sounding,
Pete's rhythm tone in the very beginning had me thinking Bon Scott was gonna walk onto the set.
Awesome playing guys!!
hendix main amp was a jtm 45 100 watt head so the cleans on that are very fender like
The silver Jubilee circuit actually changes the tubes from pentode to triode and it changes the feel of the amp. The JCM800 and The Plexi 20w they have just standard attenuation.
How does this impact the sound? Curious
Yes the Jubilee wants to be played loud on the high setting!
Slash, Frusciante, Bonamassa, Wyne Krantz... A good and versatile amp.
Love my 2525h 🔥
Anybody who likes both Frusciante, and Wayne Kranz is a friend of mine.
@@christopherweise438 😆
I got the JC 800 version. I had to make some wiring changes to make it sound epic. But not it certainly does.
Love this review¡ Awesome. The Silver Jubilee is the winner by a mile¡ Peter you are such an Amazing guitar Player ¡
Jubilee sounds like the best of both worlds the Plexi and JCM.
The JCM 2000 review seems be missing from your repertoire, just picked up a 2005 (100w head) with absolutely no bias issues whatsoever, I think it would be nice to do another review considering the tonel quality of that head, after all it's not about pushing new products alone, is it
Both are great. What confuses me though, is the pricing. The 20Watters cost the same while their 100W full-size counterparts are so different in price. The 2203x is like 50% more expensive than the 2550x. This makes the 20W and 100W Jub really close in price which seems weird.
Where is the SV20H? It is the best of them! I remember you had a demo of it in another episode when it came out, but it sounded like trash cause you configured it wrongly. Didn't do justice to it at all :(
The Tube sreamer was used to cut and tighten the fubby low end .same goes for the SD 1. It wasnt really about more drive. It was more about tone shaping . Less bass tighter bass and a mid boost to give leads a smoother creamier more liquid tone .
Yes, but as a rhythm player, I don't care about that. I'm looking for something that chugs when you're palm muting power chords.
That sound with the "Strat" and the 800 is soo SRV right?!?
SV20H anyone? Andertons still haven't done a video on it.... Dudes! The 1959 SLP plexi! We need this 😉😉!! This is sorely missing in this video
god i LOVE GREENBACKS
I remember looking around for the Jubilee or the SV20 heads until I saw the prices on them. I'm gonna grab a used 50 watt head for the same price.
I could kick myself for not buying a vintage 50 watt and 4x12 30 years ago when the owner wanted a really low price just to get it out of his house due to his wife nagging him.. I passed on it because I would have had the exactly same problem - and had no feasible use for such a loud amp and cab.. Though I console myself when I think how much extra it would have cost over the last few decades in servicing and replaced components .
They are really good value for money here in europe. Bought the jubilee with a matching 2x12 jvm cab for €1100. My studio vintage head was about €800.
Just got the JCM800 for €700
The SV20H would come in and blow them all away. But I love all of these little amps!
Some amp techs looked under the hood on the Marshall Origin heads and the SV heads and they’re almost identical, same pots and all the electrical components, so the SV series are gouging the price….
Psionic Channel reveals the components in the chassis…👍🏾💥
I miss the best Marshall in production: the studio vintage… really the best…
There are some people saying tubescreamer is not for Marshalls , but give it more clarity and headroom (not only gain)….
Thanks for the video….
Pd: the best clean sound for me is better with a plexi instead fender (see that’s pedal show video)
Which episode of the pedal show is that?
@@kcave23 look for the episode “best clean tone? Fender super reverb vs crancked Marshall
Love my silver jubilee
Download? I think they meant Monsters Of Rock. And Slash's Snakepit played in 1995, so it adds up.
The mics sound out of phase maybe? There's an odd hollow-ness to the tones
Stevie Ray Vaughan used Marshall 200 majors for cleans and Fender amps for dirty tones.
Either! Both!...Yumm.....
I own both heads…and the mini 800 has the sound! Cuts through the mix and sounds like a classic Marshall amp.
The jubilee has a darker voice with an emphasis on the low mids. And the 800 is much much louder than the jubilee.
I’ve played the larger single channel 800 amps for 30 years, so I may be biased on my preference for the mini 800.
100% correct i had both got rid of the Jub. I don't know how they dialing in these amps. Effects loop off the 800 is way louder.
Great demo !! Love both and I’m sure some lovely store would let you take them home then return the one you don’t want 🤣I have an AVT 100 combo which I love but these sound so great . I’ll always defend Marshall amps against anything particularly since I saw Larry Carlton play a gig through a 100 watt stack -no boutique amps to be seen and it sounded …..like Larry Carlton on top form . Cheers
Started on an AVT 100 - great value at the time and even more so now I imagine!
@@lewismcnicholas2631 Bought it four years ago £65 with footswich , too loud for the house really but I don’t care 🤣
PRS Hollowbody ii vs. Gibson 335?
Good morning gents! I've always wanted a jubilee. I just wish it came with two switchable independent channels at that price
It does switch channels
@@truthfactreality6814 I edited the comment to state independent channels. I don't like that the gain is shared between channels. If I were to dial down my game channel to a moderate crunch and then switch back to the clean channel it would sound too weak. And if I fatten up the clean tone and then switch over to the gain side it jumps right up into metal territory. I would prefer two separate gain channels that are truly independent of each other on a foot switch.
@@christopher7310 I agree. That’s why I own a jvm 410h. I still love my jubilee for the slash sound though. Jvm also doesn’t need a boost in the lead channel.
I laughed so hard when Lee was explaining how the silver not foot switchable. Yeah. Exactly why the silver never caught on. DSL 40 cr with the 6 button footswitch is so versatile. So much cheaper. I have had Marshall's since 90s never understood the silver. It's like shooting yourself in the foot
The SJ is 2 channel footswitchable. He made a mistake.
The dsl is trash
@@volkerlinzer844 I think he is referring to the clipping circuit. That part isn’t switchable.
i had the 1x12 jcm 900, agree it was a bad sounding amp unless you ran it into a 2x12 or 4x 12
Captain has been to the crossroads hasn’t he?
I was recently in the market for a Marshall style head and went for the Friedman. I think it was the right decision with the Runt 20 as it has a great overdrive channel and clean channel. The effects loop is great and there is an all-analog speaker-emulated out that actually sounds good, though not as good as putting a mic on the cab. The only feature I envy on these Marshall heads is the low wattage mode.
CAn make an attenuator which goes in the loop.
Captain saying it sound muzzled in 5w, any music when you've been playing it loud then turn it down never sounds right. So playing in 5w mode and going against another 5w amp like the blackStar HT5 would be a better comparison to make........
What’s the cool box you are using to switch Amp Heads?
Radial ToneBone is what they said at the beginning, but I think it may be a Headbone
Crazy that right now, it's cheaper to buy one of these frome you guys and have it shipped to the States than to buy one from a shop here
Can the jcm 800 be used on its own
That Silver Jubilee head is one of the best mini heads made today if you can't afford an SLOd 30...but those EQ knobs are OBSCENELY sensitive. Setting the gain settings is no different than any other amp....it's just more important with a low wattage amp, because they get fizzy very quickly. Error on the side of less gain....then if absolutely necessary, use a pedal to tighten it up. A ProCo RAT IMO is the absolute best at tightening up, and giving killer definition...i.e. Nuno Bettencourt from the first Extreme album). The trick with an OD pedal is to use it by the exact same rules as the amp. Don't use it to add gain, use it to "shape" , or tighten the gain. And, as always, the more air you push through the speakers, the more punch you'll get, and the better it will sound. If you're after gain, that Silver Jubilee is spectacular. But, the clean channel isn't very good (IMO).
Oh Captain my Captain, first off you’re channel is fantastic! But you have to turn the Preamp gain up to 2-3oclock on the JCM800. At noon it’s a nice sound but thinner then when its at 2-3oclock. It’s an amazing amp on its own and with clean boosts and or overdrives, it’s magnificent!! Love what you do but turn up that preamp :)
Very cool demo! I think with slightly less gain, the Jube does sound like the 800. But, the 800 has that "real amp" punch to it that the Jube is lacking. Depends on what you want I guess. More gain, less headroom = Jube. Killer punch and vintage crunch = 800.
The silver jubilee is a one channel amp & the foot switch n
Basically does the push pull not actually change channels -
Should have thrown in the the Origin 20 as well
Had mini Jub for 2 years, got SC20h A/B them for a week , sold the Jub. the 800 sounds like the Marshall's we grew up on. The Jub is darker more compressed doesn't feel the same either. Also the 800 takes pedals much better even though I don't use any peda's for rythm playing. Turn off the effects loop the 800 gets really loud and shines. keep pre-amp betwen 7-8 mids at 7 presence @ 6. . Roll off the volume get great cleans too. Get a Hot Mod V2 or Lynch mod and it will really shine & sustain. Can't put that in the Jub. Bottom line the 800 is the tone we have in our heads from recordings. Jub is NOT. The problem here in the U.S is the prices have gone nuts. $1749 . 2 years ago they were $1299. WTF.
Jubilee videos: The Input Gain is always lower and the guitarist try to compensate raising the Bass level, try it with the Input Gain on 8 not pulled, it will create a fuller tone to start.
2 of my favorite chaps