Edith's Middle Child Moments | Downton Abbey
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2022
- Being the middle child isn't easy at Downton as Edith knows all too well...
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I really love how she got a happy ending. And not just her finally getting married, but more importantly how well she's managed the magazine company.
In the first season, Edith wasn’t my favorite character, but her character arc and growth was amazing to watch.
yes! her character development start to increase from season 2 when she’s get involved with the house managing the war soldiers.🥰
For anyone who can relate to Edith, look how incredible her life eventually became. She became the owner of a highly respected news office and she eventually got her man. I know its only a fictional show, but its not so fictional to the point where these characters are not relatable in some way. This is one of the many reasons why I love Downton so much ❤️❤️❤️
Fictional doesn't even come into it. People actually draw inspiration from these type of dramas because the writers I believe, draw from real life people. That is how the shows become consumable. They wouldn't sell if they were pure fiction without any reality to them. This is why they sometimes get sued. Some say Downtown Abbey was based on Winston Churchill's mother. An American who came from a new money family and wasn't accepted by American high society. She infact came from the then excessively rich (but no longer) Vanderbilt family, rather like Julian Fellowess' new offering the Gilded age. I suspect the girl from the rich but new money Russell family will end marrying into the British aristocracy, just like lady Churchill.
In addition to her great work, purpose, and success with the magazine, she also married into higher social status within the Aristocracy. Edith became the Marchiness, outranking the entire family A true Old English fairytale ending.. Check it out! Ciao!!!
@@the8thchurch461gullibility has always been inherent in humans believing fiction.
@@xr6lad And yet here YOU are! Care to explain, not gullible then like the rest of us who believe fiction?
It broke my heart when Edith told Robert that she isn;t his most darling girl. She knows that she is not loved and it's just so sad(
"Being tested only makes you stronger."
Lady Edith took that strength and resilience and turned her life around 360° and then some.
360 is full circle; from the beginning.
it's 180° lol - going around 360° means she would just end up back where she started 😂
180…. As others have said… she’d be starting back from the beginning if she did a 360…
@@ElvishRanger93 Yeah, and if it were "180° and then some" that means she'd start getting closer to where she started from. 😄 🤣 😂
@@harringt100 That’s true too!
In the end I was very happy for Edith. She always seemed like an 'extra', to her family. And with Mary constantly throwing shade, I truly felt badly for her. But then she found a new path for herself, and met a man (two really), who saw her worth and loved her unconditionally. Can't beat that!
It always angered me the way they talked about her like she was the ugliest thing in the world???? The woman is gorgeous, I just couldn’t wrap my head around it
At least Sybil was always kind to her. It breaks my heart that Mary didn’t try harder with Edith. I liked Mary but she seemed to be cruel to Edith for sport
Its not like Edith did not earn it like sending that letter to the Turkish Embassy.
@@LBF522 but Edith did that because of how Mary had treated her all along. She was especially hurt that Mary was going to marry their cousin who would inherit Downton when Edith was in love with him, and Mary absolute was not.
Mary had always been a bully to Edith even before she sent the letter to the Turkish embassy
@@LBF522 Edith was only about seventeen yrs old when she sent that letter. Yes it was wrong. But we all make mistakes at seventeen and Mary's bullying and snide attitude toward Edith had started long, long before that.
I dare say that if Mary had been kinder to her sister, Edith would not have dreamed of writing the letter to the Turkish Embassy.
@@marigold6920 I did not realize that Edith was 17 at the time. Thank you.
Love that conversation she had with Sybil: shows how lovely she supported every person in the family ☺️
After season 1, Edith became my favorite character. She left the rivalry with Mary behind her and put up with the insults and snide remarks, to the point that even Rosamond was written as asking if she would stay at Downton to continue being sniped at by Mary. I wish they had written more scenes of her living in London and having a life away from Downton.
I loooooved how in the latest movie she takes back control of the magazine and is writing an article, taking pictures, inspiring the admiration of everyone. Edith's growth from Season One has been amazing to watch!
I really preferred Edith over Mary any day.
I did after the first season. She was quite difficult to like that first year but I was definitely rooting for her from then on.
Agreed!
Its hard to explain it but there it is. It maybe because all the attention was on Mary and Edith simply didn't get a look in. Edith had to navigate her way around men ALONE while Mary got all the help from her parents.
Mary is a bioch
Moi non je préfère Mary car Edith est jalouse et joue les pauvres malheureuses....
There are at least two scenes that should be in this -- in S5E6, when Edith is about to receive the news of Michael Gregson's death, the family gives her virtually ZERO support, instead planning a picnic to watch a horse race. And, in S5E9, when Robert tells Edith that he's guessed the truth about Marigold; when Edith asks for Robert's forgiveness, he says "I need your forgiveness as much as you need mine." Also, there are numerous little moments in Season 1 where her elder relations, especially Cora, overlook or dismiss Edith.
what makers 5x06 even worse is how dramatic they acted during the day that Heny's friend died... while Henry was not there.
Some random guy gets more sympathy from them then the man Edith loved
@@GoldenRose116 I mean...maybe, but Gregson really pretty much was "some random guy," to the rest of them, too. None of them knew him. Most of them were less than approving of Edith's getting involved with him. Considering he was married, I can't really blame them. Sure, he seemed like a great guy, but regardless of whether you think he was morally obligated to stay married to his wife, legal ineligibility to marry should be a pretty big deal breaker.
@@harringt100 He and Edith where dating over 2/3 years . And they did approve of him
@@harringt100 it's not important who Gregson was to the Crawley's. It's important that she was heartbroken and recevied no support. The main is that her femily didn't pay any attention to her while being all over Rose who is a spoiled brat
I was just looking at the Series 1 script book, and Fellowes’s notes from that say that Robert and Cora did indeed expect Edith to never get married, all because they don’t consider her as pretty as Mary and Sybil. He then goes on to say how draining it is to live in a household where everyone thinks you’re a non-achiever. After reading that, my sympathy for Edith and my wanting to see her succeed beyond her wildest dreams went up tenfold.
I also have to say that I have seen Edith’s haters call her all sorts of bad names: selfish, jealous, desperate. When I see them say those things, I really want to ask, “Are you honestly saying that if you lived in a household where nobody, including your parents, believed in you, the sibling they favored bullied you and never tried to understand you, and you were taught all your life that the only way to escape all of that is to get married, that you would not be envious, desperate, and more likely to be primarily concerned with watching your own back?” I think not. Side note: I actually have seen supplementary material that seems to indicate that Mary might have some envy towards Edith thanks to Edith not having as much pressure placed on her. I have to say I probably would be more sympathetic toward Mary if the show itself showed that she too had some envy toward Edith. Edith really strikes me as a character who the audience would have been more sympathetic toward if the show had taken more time to show how her being considered an under-achiever in her own family has shaped her as a person.
What a brilliant comment!
It’s so interesting too that all the hate comments towards Edith could be said about Mary too lolol
Edith was the best character in this show, IMO. Was TEAMEDITH from the jump...always looked over, always undermined, ignored, talked down to. She finally decided enough was enough, took control of her life, and ended up having the happiest ending of everyone!!!
TEAM EDITH!!!!!!
Robert: _It's about Edith. You're not going to believe it._
Cora: _She's pregnant again?_
Robert: _No._
Cora: _Been arrested for treason?_
Robert: _Not quite. She's back with Bertie, and we're going up to Brancaster to meet Mrs Pelham and announce the engagement._
Cora: _Huh?_
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Me: With that attitude and support no wonder Edith feels so insecure and alienated.
Cora was always a really bad mother towards Edith
i stand with you. After hearing Cora spew that list of nonsense - even though she was supposed to be one of the kindest characters on the show - , my mouth was left agape and I felt so much anger and indignance on Edith's behalf. She may have not been the favorite daughter, but she's still THEIR daughter and a person with feelings. It wouldn't kill Cora and Robert to be a little nicer to her.
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There shouldn't even be a "favourite child", the moment they started that they failed as parents.
Which makes it hard to understand. Cora was so kind towards O'Brien but being so horrible with Edith
All she wanted was to be noticed and loved. Thank heavens for Gregson and Bertie! Frankly, I don't blame Edith for lashing out at Mary sometimes. I think if you look at their rivalry blow-for-blow, Mary is the worse sister.
In my family I am the oldest and my sister is 2 years younger. Neither one of our parents treated one better than the other. We were both treated fairly and given equal chances to do everything and anything. We were close as kids and now live together. we are in our 70's. We have SQUABBLES but nothing serious.
I feel Lady Edith’s pain and suffering. 😢😢😥
Ikr😢
She has not enough love herself
Laura was so amazing as Edith 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
And she was working in an office when she got the role. What an amazing first major role.
The way she weeped after being left at the altar broke my heart
She truly deserved to be treated better by her own family
I felt so bad for Edith. Glad she got that magazine and Bertie in the end
About Patrick's death it seemed so obvious that Edith was in love with him, it's really insensitive from the whole family to keep pushing for Mary marrying him because she's the eldest.
It is a shame the way they treated her since I am middle child myself
I am the oldest child and treated like this lol! To be fair, there’s only me and my younger sibling - so I guess it’s also normal when there’s only two siblings. But my younger sibling is more good looking, intelligent and talented… that may have something to do with it too haha!!
@@HM-xi5zi I know what you mean. I too are the eldest between my sister and I. My mother constantly praises everything she does, while constantly complaining about everything I do or don't do. 😢💔
I was the youngest and treated this way.
I have recently been rewatching the show and regarding her relationship with Mary in first season I would say that Mary mostly created her messes herself and receiving all the help she could ( the Pamuk thing of course and that time she decided to play with sir Anthony in front of Matthew for example) while spiting Edith just because she felt like it. While I do think that Edith was very wrong when she sent the letter to the ambassador I would say if she was treated that way all her life (like when she said to Cora when they returned after presenting Sybil in London that she never tells her she did well and receiving "you were very helpful" in return) it is not surprising. Wrong definitely but not surprising. Also, Cora saying that reminded me of my grandfather's joke "one of my daughters is beautiful, one - smart and the other hardworking". Though in his case it was only a joke and treated as a joke. I would say Edith matured the most over the series while Mary not so much. I mean even when Violet told Mary to make peace with her, Edith came herself.
Great show. Love all the relationships shown.
Sorry about language. I am not used to typing in English.
I love Edith of course and for a long time I didn't know what to think of Mary but I started to sympathize with her as well. The Pamuk thing actually when looked at closely, and all the other situations that Mary "created" for herself, were not really her creation at all! Mary was also a victim of circumstances. Think about it, her father literally created all the pains Mary had in her life by FORCING her to marry whomever became the heir! Her position as the oldest was her misfortune. The pressure to marry Matthew I believe, pushed her towards Mr. Pamuk. It was as though she wanted to show Matthew the type of man she prefers. To show him what the son of a god, Persus, looked like. Remember the story at the dining table where she implied that her father was sacrificing her by forcing her to marry the sea monster, Matthew? I felt for her from then on. This is what actually happens in super rich families. Its what happened to prince Charles as well as prince Andrew. Some might beg to differ. But when it comes to serving DYNASTIES, its akin to religion. The god of the dynasty has to be served at all cost. Imagine if prince Charles didn't have the pressure to marry a suitable woman for the position of the future queen. He would have married maybe Camilla or anyone of his fancy and poor Diana would have never come on the scene as the sacrificial lamb. People might feel like vomiting at the thought of feeling sorry for prince Andrew but had he married his real sweetheart, the American actress Koo Stark and not the "suitable" Duchess of York, the marriage would have lasted and Andrew would never have fallen prey to all that befell him. I believe rich dynasties are a tough act to follow and eat up their offspring without even caring about their welfare.
@@the8thchurch461 yeah I also felt sorry for Mary, especially when she had a breakdown when Robert was blinded by having a new heir and moving her completely out of the picture. Also I need to read more about prince Andrew, I am not native to Britain so I am not really familiar with the story. Should ask my aunt really, since she is a fan of royal family:D
Sybil might've been the only one who saw Edith and decided to love and support her
Edith is very strong despite that family....she reminds me of my mom , also a middle ignored child
i’d see reddit posts asking why edith was treated so unrealistically bad. like sweetie this is what middle children go through but no one listens.
As a middle child i can confirm that my siblings are treated better in every way
It was worse than this for Edith.
I'm the youngest and I am treated exactly like Edith. So it's not only middle child thing. My mother told me many times over the years that my oldest sister is her favourite and also that no one likes me. I only came to realise recently that it was only her who didn't like me .
One thing about Edith- she loves for love and emotional connections- not looks, or fame or whatever- but that could also be because she was never allowed to be picky with her choices
AGREE!!!! that makes me realize when she wants to marry Anthony Stralan, or when the 'Patrick' Gordon comes she is really fond of them
These clips do remind me on how much Edith was kind of set aside by her family. I mean, Edith is allegedly the 'plainest' of the 3 sisters, and she's the middle child too, completely 'forgotten' because she rarely gave trouble unless when she and Mary are at it. Sybil, while the sweetest, did stir up a bunch of drama by running off with Tom beside being active in politics giving her conservative parents some headache. While with Mary, it's all about getting her married off since she's the oldest. So Edith was easily 'forgotten' in the family. I'm glad that she finally meets her compatible partner and ends up at the 'higher' class compared to her family LOL.
*im so happy she ended up happy, edith was ignored and pushed away a lot of the time. she really deserved better!*
edit: *i never really liked edith in the start, but her character development was amazing to see!*
Watching this it occurred to me that Edith, over Mary, had Real marriage options and opportunities. Love mattered to Edith, not position and title. Mary had to keep Downton in the family and therefore did not necessarily have the luxury of marrying for love.
Edith > Mary
Her wedding dress is.way prettier than Mary's .
Would it have been too much for Edith to exclaim "Mary Mary Mary!" just once?
I love Edith. In her youth she definitely had her ways that unfortunately came from a lot of pain and longing to be loved (she really disappointed me with Mr. Drake tho, they both did. After his wife was shivering with tears in her eyes when he was getting that adrenaline, then he kisses another woman 😤😡but I digress😆). At heart she's my favorite because she's nurturing, loves hard and genuinely. And when she finally got her happy ending, she always to see others happy; for example the way she looked out for Tom and Lucy. 😊She also, IMO, was the most glamorous and had THE best character development.
I don't know how, but I did not put it together that that was the same man who had the adrenaline put in his heart.
Upstairs, I definitely agree Edith had the best character growth!
I love Edith she was so kind and nice.
I'm a middle child and I feel her pain
Don't know why, but I was even surprised by how long this video was... I didn't remember she had so many of these scenes
Have you changed your pills??😂😂😂😂
Poor Edith 🥺☹️
6:23 coming down the stairs. She made a beautiful bride
0:12
That is most mean thing I have ever heard him say in the entire show. Brutal.
edith was definitely one of those characters like "that poor girl is so miserable. when will it ever work for her"
Edith was my favorite! Sorry not a Mary fan
I admit that Edith did some really terrible things, but Mary was always the favorite and was always so terrible and dismissive toward her. I don't say that writing to the embassy was justified, because that could have ruined the entire family, but I do understand her pain at being the unattractive daughter who no man wanted.
I do believe parents love all their children equaly, they just dont like them all equaly. There are always people you get along better with, connect easier with, like more. The same is true for children. They are after all human beings, and not all human beings connect the same way. That being said I do speak about ''normal'' families. Not about abusive households or extreme situations. You can grow to hate your child or parents or loved ones if only terrible enough things happen. terrible enough betrayels and the like. But if nothing extreem happens like that, yes, parents love all their children equaly, but that doesnt mean they always get along with them equaly.
Edith was always my fav,most relatable, and had the most growth on the show, Mary was a snob who would inherit evrything, and constantly said, edith didn’t have anything a man would like, she married total sweethearts, who Mary treated like trash, Sybil, the baby, mom fav, got away with evrything, edith got all the rules, none of affection or attention
Marvellous how much light those candles throw. Don’t know why we moved to electricity!
Lovey
Poor old Edith 😂😂
I always thought it would have been interesting storyline, if Edith was actually rosamund child, she look just like her, but given to Robert forabetter life
Never really cared for Edith but she was a "modern" woman who wanted more than the life of a Downton lady.
both edith and daisy were too stupid for there own good
Chata no último grau!
She was always poisonously envious
No, she often offered Mary peace but was always pushed away.
@@Celisar1 no, it was Mary, who always offered peace. Edith, from the very first episode, said and did awful things to Mary. Mary just answered back and because Mary was smarter these answers were harsh but also true
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I'm the youngest child and I am the only child with disability (epilepsy, autism, skin problem, hair loss and lipedema) and I wish I was the middle child because he is smart, intelligent, educated, heart of gold, have a nice house and family and many more things. My brother (middle child) is everything I wanted to be but can't
Edith legit ruined a lot of people’s lives. Mary was selfish but she didn’t ruin lives, well not as much as Edith lol
She almost ruined Edith's
We’re you watching the same programme? Mary was a nasty bully! Outed Edith’s secret, that she was Marigolds mum before she had the chance to tell. She was always the least favourite from her family and had to accept and put up with Mary’s nasty comments ALL THE TIME. She did one bad thing - telling someone about the Pamouk guy, but other than that she was a Victim
@@amyminto3181 these are fictional characters. Anyways Edith ruined many the lives of the Swiss family, Edith ruined the lives of the drewe family and made them move off the estate, Edith ruined Mary’s life first by telling the scandal, edith asked if it was okay for a black man to be at downton.
Stupid, Edith-hater. Whose life did Edith ruin??????????????????
@@KO-vv1ozEdith "ruined" lives for the sake of her child (except for the Pamuk thing, which she did as retaliation to her bully sister). Mary ruined lives whenever hers sucks at the moment. And when someone tries to ruin Mary's life (the hotel chambermaid, Edith, Vera Bates), the entire Crawley clan and her downstairs cheerleaders always have her back. Edith has no one.
She was monstrous towards the drews so terribly selfish what she did was awful just breaking their hearts that way and shuffling Marigold around from here to there, also causing Mrs Drew a breakdown. Unforgivable behavior.
I agree! She often had no thought for others and not just with the Drew’s.
Nonsense.
It was Mr. Drew’s mistake not to tell his wife. Everything else derived from that.
Wanting her child close and then stepping up to take her in despite the threat of a huge scandal that would have ruined her reputation and any chance to happiness shows a lot of character actually.
Edith sort of forgettable character and the most entitled sister in the house until Sybil died and her story start to take off and become nicer person.
I don’t think she was ever a mean person, sure she had a few moments where she made some bad choices and sad some bad stuff but who doesn’t and Edith grew and learned to be better and for the Drewe story I agree she could’ve done better but she had to live for a while with her sister and brother in law spending time with their children and wanted the same love and I can’t blame her for that as there is no more pure than a mother's love
Edith is the most self centered and selfish character in the series.
1. Writing to the ambassador could have implicated her own mother, sister, and staff member in an INTERNATIONAL scandal.
2. She had an affair with a TWO married men (I hope in the next movie Lizzy becomes lucid again. Wont that make a great story).
3. The Drew family. I could go on for a week in reguards to how MONSTROUS her actions were to the kids and Mrs. Drew.
4. Bertie. I believe she would have kept Marigold a secret until after the marriage when divorce would have been out of the question.
5. "My editor walked out" = "I fired him" in Edith-speak.
6. And of course who can forget: "what about my dress." This is silly but atleast I left you with a smile.
Peace
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Still better than Mary...
@@victorrodrigueesoficial
At least I gave some examples.
Peace!
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Wow you're all in your judgmental feels over a TV show 🙄
@@gnostic268
Everyone leaving comments about this series is 'judgemental'.
Peace!
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I 100% agree with you. The ambassador writing is without a doubt the most self centered thing she ever did. And the consequences of it followed Mary throughout the series. And I’m sorry the whole thing with the Drewes there were better ways she could have handled the entire situation. I don’t care how she felt about Mary, you don’t implicate her in a scandal like that. She should have worked something out with both of them. Also, she should have been honest with Bertie. No Mary should not have outed Her, but Edith should not have lied. Also, when Carson past out in Season 2 she was the only one concerned about her dress than the past out butler.