Just to update, since the full release of the 12.1 update some new changes have been made: - Auto tagging now applies to 3rd party plugins too and will be tagged accordingly. - You can convert from Simpler to drum sampler but it converts every sound within a drum rack. This is by right clicking on the drum rack name and going convert Simpler - Drum Sampler. (Bit odd in my opinion) These are the ones i've noticed. Let me know in the comments if you find anymore! 😀
Thank you. Just found your channel as I move from S1 to Live. Very nice presentation style, good editing, and a reasonably small talking head PIP. :) Subbed and liked
Thank you!, i'm sure you're going to love Ableton Live, i've used Cubase and Logic in the past and for making electronic music Ableton has become my favourite for sure! I''m actually just finalising a full Ableton Live 12 video course as I write this, which should be out at the start of November, it's basically the ultimate Ableton course for people looking to master the software and write some great music, i'll have more details on my channel in the near future! Thanks for the support! 😃
I'm using the beta for Drum Sampler. I'm not sure I understand the use case for a totally new plugin instead of updating Simpler. I love Simpler and the Drum Sampler is like Simpler minus a bunch of good modulation parameters. I would have preferred adding the FX features to the Simpler. Maybe I'll figure out some other reasons to use it later.
Yes i completely agree, I think it's aimed more towards producers that don't want or need to delve into extensive modulation, like pitch or filter control and just want to play a sample back with some interesting FX, which Drum Sampler does very well and I will use it more if they make it easier to convert from simpler to Drum Sampler. But I am on your side in that adding the FX to previous simpler and sampler as well as having Drum Sampler would have been the best solution for everyone.
my man youve found a great balance between explaining things in depth while at the same time not yapping your fucking brain off. very concise and to the point.
Can't believe I spent £200 on Antares Harmony Engine and Autotune last year when I could have upgraded to Ableton 12 and got them as a stock plug in for less money 😭😭😭
Ah I know!!! I remember talking about it in one of our lessons, nothing even came close to Harmony Engine and what it could do at the time. That being said if you used harmony engine and autotune in your tracks then it was worth it, Auto Shift isn't actually fully released yet too so just think positive things 😂 And I've not fully compared the two yet, I know Harmony engine has some features auto shift doesn't like the individual formant tuning, panning etc. Plus you also got Autotune in that price, which might sound better than auto shift!
The harmony shift tool is a Great improvement. I’m going to use that so much. A lot of singers I’ve come across cannot harmonise themselves and don’t have a budget for female BVS 🎉
I'm trying to understand the New automatic groove. I don't get it. So do I still have to apply it? What does it mean Automatic cause I'm not seeing this. I still had to apply the groove no different than the old way. Can you or anybody help me understand? I'm beta testing.
So when you add a groove into the groove pool, there's a small yellow activation button next to it. This will make this the default groove for the project. Any clips created after doing this will automatically have the groove applied. It's useful if you create a drum beat a the start with a groove because everything you create after that will already have that groove applied as long as you create a new empty clip i believe. Hope that helps. 😀
I dont understand why they won't make a simple pitch and format plugin like the one thats next to the warping modes. i know there's shifter, but it doesn't seem to do the exact same thing. This would be a huge time saver for me.
I think this auto shift will be handy for doing simple shifting and a lot better than shifter for sure. It will be better as it has that global scale feature and scale transposition too but I do know what you mean.
I can't believe there's no way to have it open your most recent project upon launch and it always loads a brand new set. Upon launch it should ask you what you'd like to open.
That would be a good feature in some ways, but if it's a big project that takes a long time to open it could be problematic I guess, especially if you have other applications running it could potentially cause crashes.
@@Modul8online I started in Logic Pro. I guess I'm talking about the feature it has. Still love Live 12.1 over Logic and FL. I'm very happy I finally bought it last Oct in time to get the free update to 12. Live's workflow is superior.
I might be in the minority, but I've never understood why you would use drum rack. Isn't it super awkward for mixing and plug-in use on individual drums? I prefer having a track per drum sample, for mixing and to have individual MIDI clips as well. I even use multiple instances of Kontakt (for Modern Drummer etc) to have individual drums isolated to separate tracks. I'm looking forward to this Drum Sampler, although I'm not sure which benefits it'll really have over Simpler. Just hope you can use it outside of a Drum Rack, too.
You can have individual effects on individual sounds in drum rack you just need to look in the session view and expand the drum rack, it also means they’re all grouped together already, which is nice. You can also have sends and returns too, they’re just located in the chains view of the drum rack. Having all your midi in one clip can be easier as you can easily line up drum hits between instruments and applying swing using the grooves are super easy in one clip too. Also using multiple kontakts on different tracks will increase your CPU as you have multiple plugins running at once, you can use kontakt in multichannel mode to separate each sound into an audio track in Ableton but it’s a bit of a hassle setting it up to be fair Oh you can use drum sampler just as an instrument outside of drum rack just like simpler though. 😁
At first I didn’t like the browser but after using it for a while it’s definitely better, especially the auto tagging features that was added in recently
That's for Ableton 12, you don't have to pay for each 12 update, like this 12.1 update. It's true though its one of the most expensive DAWs but it comes with a lot of content and has some of the best synths, samplers and audio effects. Also there student discount is around 50%!
@@EBMZEQUENZER FL is very good, the fact your only have to buy it once it a lot better than Ableton but from what I can tell it does lack in some areas like synthesisers and some audio effects, but they are remedying this with the latest update bringing in that new vintage analog synthesiser. I'll have to give it a try.
Just to update, since the full release of the 12.1 update some new changes have been made:
- Auto tagging now applies to 3rd party plugins too and will be tagged accordingly.
- You can convert from Simpler to drum sampler but it converts every sound within a drum rack. This is by right clicking on the drum rack name and going convert Simpler - Drum Sampler. (Bit odd in my opinion)
These are the ones i've noticed. Let me know in the comments if you find anymore! 😀
Thank you. Just found your channel as I move from S1 to Live. Very nice presentation style, good editing, and a reasonably small talking head PIP. :) Subbed and liked
Thank you!, i'm sure you're going to love Ableton Live, i've used Cubase and Logic in the past and for making electronic music Ableton has become my favourite for sure!
I''m actually just finalising a full Ableton Live 12 video course as I write this, which should be out at the start of November, it's basically the ultimate Ableton course for people looking to master the software and write some great music, i'll have more details on my channel in the near future!
Thanks for the support! 😃
I'm using the beta for Drum Sampler. I'm not sure I understand the use case for a totally new plugin instead of updating Simpler. I love Simpler and the Drum Sampler is like Simpler minus a bunch of good modulation parameters. I would have preferred adding the FX features to the Simpler. Maybe I'll figure out some other reasons to use it later.
Yes i completely agree, I think it's aimed more towards producers that don't want or need to delve into extensive modulation, like pitch or filter control and just want to play a sample back with some interesting FX, which Drum Sampler does very well and I will use it more if they make it easier to convert from simpler to Drum Sampler.
But I am on your side in that adding the FX to previous simpler and sampler as well as having Drum Sampler would have been the best solution for everyone.
Colour curve is wicked too. Can’t wait for the update cause I opted for Beta but I’m so used to buying the normal version I didn’t bother
I do welcome the new drum sampler. Can increase the knock on a kick without extra plugins. That’s a plus
I agree, if it means I don't have to add audio effects when i'm creating a track that's a big plus for the songwriting process and my CPU too.
They should have called the Drum Sampler 'Simplest' instead
YES!! How did they miss that.
Bro I have 12 suite.
Need update to 2.1 to have this or is in first 12 suite version?
The update isn't out yet, that's why you might not see them. Not sure when the release date is either. 🤔
What happened to the sidechain feature on the limiter?
maybe you confused it with the compressor, limiter never had a sidechain feature
I don't think there's ever been a sidechain feature in the stock limiter, unless i've missed something?
@@igorglsv ah you are correct
my man youve found a great balance between explaining things in depth while at the same time not yapping your fucking brain off. very concise and to the point.
Thank you! My many years of teaching students has helped find that sweet spot.....
I do also edit out some of the waffle though 😂
Can't believe I spent £200 on Antares Harmony Engine and Autotune last year when I could have upgraded to Ableton 12 and got them as a stock plug in for less money 😭😭😭
Ah I know!!! I remember talking about it in one of our lessons, nothing even came close to Harmony Engine and what it could do at the time. That being said if you used harmony engine and autotune in your tracks then it was worth it, Auto Shift isn't actually fully released yet too so just think positive things 😂
And I've not fully compared the two yet, I know Harmony engine has some features auto shift doesn't like the individual formant tuning, panning etc. Plus you also got Autotune in that price, which might sound better than auto shift!
The harmony shift tool is a Great improvement. I’m going to use that so much. A lot of singers I’ve come across cannot harmonise themselves and don’t have a budget for female BVS 🎉
I'm trying to understand the New automatic groove. I don't get it. So do I still have to apply it? What does it mean Automatic cause I'm not seeing this. I still had to apply the groove no different than the old way. Can you or anybody help me understand? I'm beta testing.
So when you add a groove into the groove pool, there's a small yellow activation button next to it. This will make this the default groove for the project.
Any clips created after doing this will automatically have the groove applied. It's useful if you create a drum beat a the start with a groove because everything you create after that will already have that groove applied as long as you create a new empty clip i believe.
Hope that helps. 😀
@@Modul8online Oh ok I see. Thank you so much. Greatly appreciated.
What track is playing in the intro?
One of my songs, just an idea 😁
finally a good autotune build-in
I dont understand why they won't make a simple pitch and format plugin like the one thats next to the warping modes. i know there's shifter, but it doesn't seem to do the exact same thing. This would be a huge time saver for me.
I think this auto shift will be handy for doing simple shifting and a lot better than shifter for sure.
It will be better as it has that global scale feature and scale transposition too but I do know what you mean.
I can't believe there's no way to have it open your most recent project upon launch and it always loads a brand new set. Upon launch it should ask you what you'd like to open.
That would be a good feature in some ways, but if it's a big project that takes a long time to open it could be problematic I guess, especially if you have other applications running it could potentially cause crashes.
@@Modul8online I started in Logic Pro. I guess I'm talking about the feature it has. Still love Live 12.1 over Logic and FL. I'm very happy I finally bought it last Oct in time to get the free update to 12. Live's workflow is superior.
I might be in the minority, but I've never understood why you would use drum rack. Isn't it super awkward for mixing and plug-in use on individual drums? I prefer having a track per drum sample, for mixing and to have individual MIDI clips as well. I even use multiple instances of Kontakt (for Modern Drummer etc) to have individual drums isolated to separate tracks.
I'm looking forward to this Drum Sampler, although I'm not sure which benefits it'll really have over Simpler. Just hope you can use it outside of a Drum Rack, too.
You can have individual effects on individual sounds in drum rack you just need to look in the session view and expand the drum rack, it also means they’re all grouped together already, which is nice.
You can also have sends and returns too, they’re just located in the chains view of the drum rack.
Having all your midi in one clip can be easier as you can easily line up drum hits between instruments and applying swing using the grooves are super easy in one clip too.
Also using multiple kontakts on different tracks will increase your CPU as you have multiple plugins running at once, you can use kontakt in multichannel mode to separate each sound into an audio track in Ableton but it’s a bit of a hassle setting it up to be fair
Oh you can use drum sampler just as an instrument outside of drum rack just like simpler though. 😁
I use drum rack mainly in that way but as long as it’s efficient for you at the end of the day then stick with it 😁
Reverted the browser back to it's better Live 11 version? No? It's not really relevant then.
At first I didn’t like the browser but after using it for a while it’s definitely better, especially the auto tagging features that was added in recently
lmaooooo. if you saw my comment before i deleted it, no you didn’t 😂
note to self: watch videos for longer before commenting tips
Don't worry you're note the first 😂
Imagine being a producer that died 5 years ago. And have to miss these amazing new festures
A bit dark but true I guess 😂
750 bucks😂
That's for Ableton 12, you don't have to pay for each 12 update, like this 12.1 update.
It's true though its one of the most expensive DAWs but it comes with a lot of content and has some of the best synths, samplers and audio effects.
Also there student discount is around 50%!
Probably the ugliest DAW in existence
It's not the most glamorous DAW i agree, but at least the developers can spend more time on making the plugins sound good 😀
@@Modul8online yes very uninviting at least for me, but I know that its popularity is unquestionable
@@EBMZEQUENZER what DAW do you have?
@@Modul8online FL junky for life 🍻
@@EBMZEQUENZER FL is very good, the fact your only have to buy it once it a lot better than Ableton but from what I can tell it does lack in some areas like synthesisers and some audio effects, but they are remedying this with the latest update bringing in that new vintage analog synthesiser. I'll have to give it a try.