As someone who was in band in high school(I’m in the US, not sure how that works in Canada) the scenes where y’all were fucking around with the musical instruments both had me in stitches and cringing so hard. The part where Nic was under the floor complaining about long the test was taking and somebody was above him fooling around with drums and a piano and shit nearly killed me. 😭💀🤣
Usually in the UK, our version of a good system to replace a old, non compliant system would be a Advanced MXPro5, the MXPro5 is kind of like the NFS panels with different models for the amount of points you need.
The Fine Arts building at my college also has smoke detectors installed above the drop ceilings in the corridors! It was originally set up that way when the building was built in 1978 with a Simplex 4207 system; now they have a Notifier NFS2-640 system, but they still have smoke detectors above the ceiling tiles in the corridors (mostly System Sensor i3s and at least one 2151T; it's set up in a conventional manner as they reused the existing Simplex pull stations).
It is much harder on the body to use the homemade lamp one as you have to carry around heavy sealed lead acid batteries we use that one for conventional old Edwards heat detectors that pop if you use the solo tester
@@nics-systems-electric The ones that are too loud are set on high volume in a reverbarant space where sounds get easily louder (which was probably with the old bell system) as they should get turned down to low volume or probably with black tape inside the device on the horn grille that's done by taking the device apart so it can look up to code if its still loud on low volume and the ones that are quiet must be turned up to high volume and more devices need to be added where its too quiet
Let me tell you something: If I did a commercial fire alarm system in my house. I would not put horns in the rooms (I'd just do strobe only in the rooms) because having horns in the rooms is not good for my autism and would cause me to panic and have trouble sleeping. I don't know how you deal with it but you do what you want.
You might find sounder bases set to low volume easier to deal with. That's my intention when I move house. I get where you're coming from, but in the event of a fire you definitely want to be woken up, and to meet the decibel requirements (more like recommendation in residential) you'd probably have to either have low volume inside, or high volume outside the bedroom. High volume can be disorienting but if having a sounder in your room gives you anxiety then high volume outside might be the way to go.
To clarify in case you don't know, a sounder base is basically just a piece you put on the ceiling before the detector goes over it, making it a nice lil hamburger that's effectively kinda like the residential smoke alarms you normally see
Glad to hear. No need to feel bad it's a pretty simple job for this building no complicated correlations or unusual set ups we mapped out everything left a device address map all they have to do is put in the address add zones to it and type up a label and then dump the program into the panel
40:03 The L-Series isn't working because they wired up the device backwards or the NAC polarity is weird due to the way how its wired or the previous device that goes to this device downstream might have gotten wired backwards as well (the 1 negative and one positive got their places switched where it goes to this device or it wasn't wired properly)
I plan on making a fire alarm board with wood. What thickenss wood should I get in your experience? Also, where is the best place to cheaply purchase pull stations and/or alarms? Thanks!
This was very fun to watch. It was also funny how you got called a "Goat head" and Jamie doing other things that are funny. So, what kind of automations does this fire alarm system do for this particular building other than HVAC shutdown? Just curious
One more question, how can I flush mount fire alarms L series and pull stations on the 3/8 ply that you said would be good for a fire alarm board in my other comment?
You know.....they make collapsible extension poles for the solo so you dont have to use a lift to test. And btw I bet your FPE didnt take into account stratification for that smoke in the atrium ... it will never pick up smoke from a fire
Of course the pole was used in this video. This is a system replacement you replace the devices that were installed before with their engineered placement you do not differ from that.
Not for these ventilated ones but many of the older crawlspaces that are more confined and potentially have wood rot then definitely gas detection. I'd have to look at the book to say exactly when you do and don't have to though
Hey nic so i have a idea Uploading More Quality videos over quantity what i mean is only upload on saturdays or sundays because u have more time for vids just a idea tho
I'm sorry you aren't satisfied with the quality of videos I try my best to my abilities with filming and editing however you will only get so good of quality when you were trying to complete a job and filming is your second priority during multitasking
@@nics-systems-electric no no i didnt mean that im so sorry ieant like if u can like film videos less often better quality because u have more time i did not want to come off rude
@@TdsGrindToLvl150 can't really change it. There isn't a set schedule for filming. Sometimes I only record a few videos per month and sometimes I make 10 or so in a week my videos don't determine when projects are done so if a project is being done, I have to film and edit it as it goes. Otherwise it will become too much to deal with.
Your fire alarms are so damn loud😅... Ours here in Germany are not louder than a radio playing in the backround. Did you really let run the horns for thrirty minutes🙈?
As someone who was in band in high school(I’m in the US, not sure how that works in Canada) the scenes where y’all were fucking around with the musical instruments both had me in stitches and cringing so hard. The part where Nic was under the floor complaining about long the test was taking and somebody was above him fooling around with drums and a piano and shit nearly killed me. 😭💀🤣
No-one:
Nic: Has 10 billion air fresheners in his car
This was an awesome series. I have an L series of my own and it's always a treat to mount. Great job Nic!
Thanks
Hello @@nics-systems-electric
I always think L series are really nice I do not have one.
@Teslamehi I have L series Speaker/Strobes at my schools auditorium:
I have a 2451/20 and a BG12 the only American alarms I have bc I’m British
I got into fire alarms because of you! Thanks! I also just ordered my first L-Series Low Frequency alarm today and I am excited to get it!
Rock on Nic! I'll always look up to you.
For a kid, you do seem to have a superb work ethic. Great to see - should be proud of yourself..! :)
Usually in the UK, our version of a good system to replace a old, non compliant system would be a Advanced MXPro5, the MXPro5 is kind of like the NFS panels with different models for the amount of points you need.
The Fine Arts building at my college also has smoke detectors installed above the drop ceilings in the corridors! It was originally set up that way when the building was built in 1978 with a Simplex 4207 system; now they have a Notifier NFS2-640 system, but they still have smoke detectors above the ceiling tiles in the corridors (mostly System Sensor i3s and at least one 2151T; it's set up in a conventional manner as they reused the existing Simplex pull stations).
This was a great series. I really enjoyed it. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as always. I can tell you and your supervisor have too much fun at times. 😊😊
Great video! love the mps's!
I like the heat detector tester you guys have, but I think I liked the old lamp on a stick better. Anyways, great video series!
It is much harder on the body to use the homemade lamp one as you have to carry around heavy sealed lead acid batteries we use that one for conventional old Edwards heat detectors that pop if you use the solo tester
Congratulations on a successful verification day and a job well done. Now to see what the kids and teachers think of the new sound.
Already complaints from some that it's too loud and complaints from others that it's too quiet
@@nics-systems-electric The ones that are too loud are set on high volume in a reverbarant space where sounds get easily louder (which was probably with the old bell system) as they should get turned down to low volume or probably with black tape inside the device on the horn grille that's done by taking the device apart so it can look up to code if its still loud on low volume and the ones that are quiet must be turned up to high volume and more devices need to be added where its too quiet
In my office when they install our L series components it wasn’t about how loud it was is was questions of “what is that? “Is that the fire alarm”
amazing!!
Nice video Nic!
Boy: shut up
**boy pulls Bg-12 lx**
**alarms activated**
Teacher: why sh-
Boy: i pulled the alarm
Great idea to get it fixed and working again for the safety of the children
thats a cool system
3:21 We need more durability testing videos!
Let me tell you something: If I did a commercial fire alarm system in my house. I would not put horns in the rooms (I'd just do strobe only in the rooms) because having horns in the rooms is not good for my autism and would cause me to panic and have trouble sleeping. I don't know how you deal with it but you do what you want.
I deal with it because it is a legal system installed properly and you have to have 75 dB
You might find sounder bases set to low volume easier to deal with. That's my intention when I move house. I get where you're coming from, but in the event of a fire you definitely want to be woken up, and to meet the decibel requirements (more like recommendation in residential) you'd probably have to either have low volume inside, or high volume outside the bedroom. High volume can be disorienting but if having a sounder in your room gives you anxiety then high volume outside might be the way to go.
To clarify in case you don't know, a sounder base is basically just a piece you put on the ceiling before the detector goes over it, making it a nice lil hamburger that's effectively kinda like the residential smoke alarms you normally see
@@falsernet He said commercial.
@@FireSystem45 he said a commercial system in a house. A commercial system being installed in a residential setting.
The 'HAHAHA-' got me
NICE VID
Yes! New video🎉🎉❤❤
Loved this series Nic! I feel bad for the person who had to program all the info into the panel..(the names of the devices, zones, etc)
Glad to hear. No need to feel bad it's a pretty simple job for this building no complicated correlations or unusual set ups we mapped out everything left a device address map all they have to do is put in the address add zones to it and type up a label and then dump the program into the panel
40:03 The L-Series isn't working because they wired up the device backwards or the NAC polarity is weird due to the way how its wired or the previous device that goes to this device downstream might have gotten wired backwards as well (the 1 negative and one positive got their places switched where it goes to this device or it wasn't wired properly)
Yes I showed that in the video that it was done backwards
I plan on making a fire alarm board with wood. What thickenss wood should I get in your experience? Also, where is the best place to cheaply purchase pull stations and/or alarms? Thanks!
If you plan to move it at all get something nice and light like 3/8 ply you can get fire alarm devices used on eBay
@@nics-systems-electric Thanks!
This was very fun to watch. It was also funny how you got called a "Goat head" and Jamie doing other things that are funny. So, what kind of automations does this fire alarm system do for this particular building other than HVAC shutdown? Just curious
Some HVAC shut down and closes some doors that's it
@@nics-systems-electric that’s still really neat
39:27 Did That One Get Replaced And Is The New One Working Now
Your country is one the country just got interesting sirens
Ahh the good old Honda pilot from 2004
Well done you did ok
The Big Octagon sounds like a band name
One more question, how can I flush mount fire alarms L series and pull stations on the 3/8 ply that you said would be good for a fire alarm board in my other comment?
Cut in boxes or if it's just a demo you could just drill a whole big enough for the back of the device and screw it on the board
@@nics-systems-electric What type of electrical box should i use gang box or what? thanks
At 13:44 Nic gets roasted by Jamie
You know.....they make collapsible extension poles for the solo so you dont have to use a lift to test. And btw I bet your FPE didnt take into account stratification for that smoke in the atrium ... it will never pick up smoke from a fire
Of course the pole was used in this video. This is a system replacement you replace the devices that were installed before with their engineered placement you do not differ from that.
Interesting video. I'm surprised you don't have to have a gas detector and rescue system when entering the crawl space
Not for these ventilated ones but many of the older crawlspaces that are more confined and potentially have wood rot then definitely gas detection. I'd have to look at the book to say exactly when you do and don't have to though
2:27 *hehehehehehehehehehhe*
3:15 **BANG!**
what does your family think of your videos?
yiu tub
If you need that many yellow trees to make your vehicle smell better you should investigate an ozone generator.
Rip Edwards custom 6500
i hope all the devices work now 😂
Get it get eggs excite exit sign 250 to come over he’s a firearm tester
Your comment didn't make any sense
did that lift.... fart?
Nic youcan do a security system on that and fire alarm?
The school has a security system separate from the fire alarm system. The security system only monitors the fire alarm system for call out
@@nics-systems-electric oh the one you have at your house you have it right?
Hey nic so i have a idea Uploading More Quality videos over quantity what i mean is only upload on saturdays or sundays because u have more time for vids just a idea tho
I'm sorry you aren't satisfied with the quality of videos I try my best to my abilities with filming and editing however you will only get so good of quality when you were trying to complete a job and filming is your second priority during multitasking
@@nics-systems-electric no no i didnt mean that im so sorry ieant like if u can like film videos less often better quality because u have more time i did not want to come off rude
@@TdsGrindToLvl150 can't really change it. There isn't a set schedule for filming. Sometimes I only record a few videos per month and sometimes I make 10 or so in a week my videos don't determine when projects are done so if a project is being done, I have to film and edit it as it goes. Otherwise it will become too much to deal with.
Your fire alarms are so damn loud😅... Ours here in Germany are not louder than a radio playing in the backround.
Did you really let run the horns for thrirty minutes🙈?
Yes they have to be loud to be legal and yes you have to ring the alarms for 30 minutes on battery power
@@nics-systems-electric , thank you for replying😀. Do they have to ring that long on regular basis, or just when freshly installed?
@@tobyw.1688just during a initial verification
3:17 hehehehehe bonk the door