Wherever you are in Canada, their new schools have such interesting architectural designs! Better than just the square boxes where I'm from. And looks like a good amount fo new technology in their building systems too, which is nice.
14:50 a Notifier MPS 950B pullstation with what I assume is a duel action attachment (the part you lift up) protected with a cover.... Basically a "triple" action device
At our college they test the alarms/detectors while the building is occupied (they have someone on each floor on fire watch); the "horns" even have a special message that announces: "The fire alarm is being test. There is no need to evacuate the building. This is only a test." It is neat to know how you know what area is in "alarm" if something does happened. I do not know the panel type but it seems to have a wireless network (special type not normal wi-fi), allowing the tech to see each device annunciate as they use the device testing stick/spray. It makes it easy to diagnose a failing device. The reason for extra "loops" is the school might need to upgrade its lockdown system if/when the codes are changed after what happened in the recent past.
Sounds like likely a simplex system the loops in the school have nothing to do with lockdown that is always done with PA system the engineer wanted one loop per floor and each stairwell etc. that is why there are seven loops
Yes there's some touchscreens for lighting control can't remember the name, we had a course on it but it is slipping my memory nLight sounds more familiar
Actually I don’t think that is the case since I saw different a different thermostat. The school having 7 loops though is interesting, my building has 6 loops, but that is because for the most part every classroom has at least 1 detector, be it smokes for the most part, and then there are some heats in the science rooms, and then the hallways have smokes as well.
@@nics-systems-electricit’s definitely nLight. I recognized some of the other WallPods, which are basically Acuity’s name for the button pad. Part of the reason why they are nice is that you only have to run cat5 or higher to those interfaces, as well as the motion sensors as well. And in my district, in some of the schools the classrooms have a wallpod that has dimming presets, and another that has 4 different buttons set for different temperatures of light. It is a very interesting system.
I’m pretty sure those residential co detectors have 10 year lithium sealed batteries that are supposed to last 10 years. That is still a bad option as in 10 years they will all start chirping at the same time.
That screen is slightly smaller than the pertonic f220 screen which is a full colour display. Most fire alarms in new zealand even in small buildings are voice evacuation and still have a little amplifier
Interesting that the lid switch on the duct detectors don't put the zone into trouble. That seems like a faulty setup since the detector won't function as intended when the lid is removed. Or is the code for this different in your area?
I think there is a trouble relay on the duct detector but I'm not sure if it's monitored I can't remember if it does open up the zone and cause a trouble or not
18:59 #whatafirealarmfail this room within the school has a residential smoke alarm or carbon monoxide alarm or is dual smoke and carbon monoxide alarm
why would it be your last time doing annuals testing for your district?? AND LOVE YOUR VIDS. I learned so much from you and I ran into a fire alarm tech at my school fixing an tamper switch for the sprinker system and told him about The EST 3 system and nacs and etc :).
At my old school happened yesterday someone saw smoke at lunchroom then fire alarm was pulled! My school said “All- we are all safe . We are outside! Fire trucks responded. Looking for the source. Staff is amazing!”
@@Redbird45 That's a conventional device. If it was required to be a part of the fire alarm system it would be a FSCO-951 like what is installed in the school in the shops
At around the 54 minute mark in the video, I am guessing the duct detectors in the bathrooms are for the exhaust, is this correct, or are all the detectors for air conditioning only?
Detectors are installed to detect smoke being moved through the ducts it does not have anything to do with the conditioned air whether it's been cooled or heated or just ventilation
56:24 that's high volume! In My Opinion for the hallway if there are horns/horn strobe fire alarms in classrooms hallway alarms need to be at low volume
The electricians that did all the electrical on the school when it was being built. Sometimes they messed up, but the big one was the one when they had the data wire and conduit not inside the box properly when electrician was doing it, he was like we ain’t got time for that 😂
Idea: find out what brand damper motors these ducts have and replace the old motor on the generator with these as long as these ones in this video are capable and are ok outdoors.
@@nics-systems-electricthe school ones are faster. I was thinking the faster the damper opened, the faster max airflow could be achieved. Is there any way to make the generator building damper faster? I know everything still works at least but I was still thinking about quality of life changes.
@@nics-systems-electric quality of life changes can wait. Was just an idea anyway to just make the damper faster. The system you have does work fine anyway, and money/budget is definitely a real world issue.
I just found some USB RGB string lights that each bulb can be separately detached from the other bulbs and I choosing 58 individual sets because that’s what the online store said that you can put 58 sets together and run them off, included transformer or directly from 5 V source
My school has the same thing except the small building is for K-1 and the big building is for 2-8 and between them is a big driveway/parking lot and there's 3 gates for the big building the 1st one is for some staff, buses/vans and kids from the small building the 2nd gate is for parent pick up the 3rd gate is for other staff members and parents who are dropping off or pick kids up after 8:25am or 3:45 pm
Now im trying to figure out whats worse. That one middle school with the wiring thats all over the place or this..... Holy christ the way this one is built hurts my head
The school isn't terrible just a lot of stuff going on as with any new building especially schools that have a lot of different systems in them some of the work could've been a little little cleaner if the project hadn't been rushed towards the end as much as it had been
At my school my fire alarm system is a notifier and my school fire alarm system is a bit kinda look like the same but my school fire alarm system is a bit small
I dislike how bland school's interior design is becoming. If you look at schools built in the 90s, they have alot of colors on the walls and sometimes floor tiles. Now you see schools being built with this sort of brutalist design which doesn't seem healthy for developing children. I could imagine this monochromatic color scheme could cause people to feel depressed over time.
I personally find it a much cleaner look as someone that went to an early 2000s Elementary School that was much more colourful. I don't mind the more modern approach I do like the colour adjustable lighting in the classrooms that can be changed to suit the needs of the classroom at that time which can greatly change the mood.
This is one hell of a middle school. The entire property just looks so good
Wherever you are in Canada, their new schools have such interesting architectural designs! Better than just the square boxes where I'm from. And looks like a good amount fo new technology in their building systems too, which is nice.
I believe he's in Nova Scotia or New Brunswick. From a past video I'm pretty sure he said he was in Nova Scotia
@JacobConkin he's in British Columbia
My school isn’t this nice
Those new schools are absolutely beautiful
14:50 a Notifier MPS 950B pullstation with what I assume is a duel action attachment (the part you lift up) protected with a cover....
Basically a "triple" action device
At our college they test the alarms/detectors while the building is occupied (they have someone on each floor on fire watch); the "horns" even have a special message that announces: "The fire alarm is being test. There is no need to evacuate the building. This is only a test." It is neat to know how you know what area is in "alarm" if something does happened. I do not know the panel type but it seems to have a wireless network (special type not normal wi-fi), allowing the tech to see each device annunciate as they use the device testing stick/spray. It makes it easy to diagnose a failing device. The reason for extra "loops" is the school might need to upgrade its lockdown system if/when the codes are changed after what happened in the recent past.
Sounds like likely a simplex system the loops in the school have nothing to do with lockdown that is always done with PA system the engineer wanted one loop per floor and each stairwell etc. that is why there are seven loops
So does the school use Distech controls for its Building Management, or are those UNITOUCH touchscreens just for the nLight system?
Yes there's some touchscreens for lighting control can't remember the name, we had a course on it but it is slipping my memory nLight sounds more familiar
Actually I don’t think that is the case since I saw different a different thermostat. The school having 7 loops though is interesting, my building has 6 loops, but that is because for the most part every classroom has at least 1 detector, be it smokes for the most part, and then there are some heats in the science rooms, and then the hallways have smokes as well.
@@nics-systems-electricit’s definitely nLight. I recognized some of the other WallPods, which are basically Acuity’s name for the button pad. Part of the reason why they are nice is that you only have to run cat5 or higher to those interfaces, as well as the motion sensors as well. And in my district, in some of the schools the classrooms have a wallpod that has dimming presets, and another that has 4 different buttons set for different temperatures of light. It is a very interesting system.
No way I just asked the administration at my school and they said I will be able to pull the fire alarm for a drill next week!
My school is asking the board office!
my school lets me program the panel!
NO I CANT BRUH THEY ONLY LET ME FIX THE PC DAMIT
@@SodiumInduction-hvThat’s illegal
@@vrryan6 no it’s not
I’m pretty sure those residential co detectors have 10 year lithium sealed batteries that are supposed to last 10 years. That is still a bad option as in 10 years they will all start chirping at the same time.
These ones have 9 V apparently
That screen is slightly smaller than the pertonic f220 screen which is a full colour display. Most fire alarms in new zealand even in small buildings are voice evacuation and still have a little amplifier
Excellent B Roll shots nic!
Thanks a lot!
@@nics-systems-electric as nfs 3030 has no voice evac
@@Comens1997 huh
“You could watch a movie on there”
I have a strange temptation to figure out how to make a NCA be able to play movies now
It’s a 640 by something resolution dot matrix display so you could def play doom, but I don’t think you’d want to watch a movie lmao.
@@vrryan6 hell yeah doom on a fire alarm panel
There are yts out there who have way more subs then u and do 10X worse content urs is so good man u deserve 90X your subs
Thank you I appreciate it
Interesting that the lid switch on the duct detectors don't put the zone into trouble. That seems like a faulty setup since the detector won't function as intended when the lid is removed. Or is the code for this different in your area?
I think there is a trouble relay on the duct detector but I'm not sure if it's monitored I can't remember if it does open up the zone and cause a trouble or not
Weird question what dose the lock down thing do?
Nice school, other than all the "dodgy brothers" stuff. Always a few hidden - or not so hidden - surprises
55:42 NIC'S SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC why was your electrican person on the intercom making an announcement that is weird
My coworker does not belong to me. It's not weird but normal to make announcements warning occupants about the testing that will be performed.
18:59 #whatafirealarmfail this room within the school has a residential smoke alarm or carbon monoxide alarm or is dual smoke and carbon monoxide alarm
Do you have any idea what your talking about
why would it be your last time doing annuals testing for your district?? AND LOVE YOUR VIDS. I learned so much from you and I ran into a fire alarm tech at my school fixing an tamper switch for the sprinker system and told him about The EST 3 system and nacs and etc :).
Because I'm leaving the school district
@@nics-systems-electric your graduating or something else?
@@FORTNITEMANFIREPOLICE yes
At my old school happened yesterday someone saw smoke at lunchroom then fire alarm was pulled! My school said “All- we are all safe . We are outside! Fire trucks responded. Looking for the source. Staff is amazing!”
nice fci stoper install ah.
What was with the home style smoke detector in the cooking classroom?
I believe I talked about it in the video that they are throughout the school. They aren't smoke alarms but are carbon monoxide alarms
@@nics-systems-electric weird it’s not a System sensor CO1224T or something similar
@@Redbird45 That's a conventional device. If it was required to be a part of the fire alarm system it would be a FSCO-951 like what is installed in the school in the shops
thank you for playing All that in another one of your videos
At around the 54 minute mark in the video, I am guessing the duct detectors in the bathrooms are for the exhaust, is this correct, or are all the detectors for air conditioning only?
Detectors are installed to detect smoke being moved through the ducts it does not have anything to do with the conditioned air whether it's been cooled or heated or just ventilation
56:24 that's high volume! In My Opinion for the hallway if there are horns/horn strobe fire alarms in classrooms hallway alarms need to be at low volume
What are all the fire Alarm keys that you have?
Different brands
So if this school doesn't have smoke control. how do they remove the smoke from the building?
They don't need to it does not have a major effect with evacuation in this school
The electricians that did all the electrical on the school when it was being built. Sometimes they messed up, but the big one was the one when they had the data wire and conduit not inside the box properly when electrician was doing it, he was like we ain’t got time for that 😂
They genuinely didn't have time the project was getting rushed and pushed faster and faster a ton towards the end
55:43 Jimmy, Nic's electrician makes an announcement that fire alarm test is going to go off
Why are some of the Duct smoke Detectors mounted on the underside of the ducts?
To be accessible and serviceable easily
Are those duct smoke detectors compatible with the Notifier FSP-851?
Depends on which ones you are referring to you have to check the detector housing for compatibility with the detector
Idea: find out what brand damper motors these ducts have and replace the old motor on the generator with these as long as these ones in this video are capable and are ok outdoors.
Why would I replace mine? It's still new and works perfectly fine that would be silly to replace it for no reason. And they are the same brand Belimo
@@nics-systems-electricthe school ones are faster. I was thinking the faster the damper opened, the faster max airflow could be achieved. Is there any way to make the generator building damper faster? I know everything still works at least but I was still thinking about quality of life changes.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 they are faster but also probably around $600 to $900 each
@@nics-systems-electric quality of life changes can wait. Was just an idea anyway to just make the damper faster. The system you have does work fine anyway, and money/budget is definitely a real world issue.
where did u buy that pole/tool to test ur smoke detector.
I didn't, but I assume it comes right from solo
Like your other school, does this school consist of a smoke relief exhaust system?
No they don't have the same atrium set up where there are walkways that are required to be clear of smoke during a evacuation.
Whats the model of the annunciator, I haven't seen one of those.
They are all custom
I just found some USB RGB string lights that each bulb can be separately detached from the other bulbs and I choosing 58 individual sets because that’s what the online store said that you can put 58 sets together and run them off, included transformer or directly from 5 V source
What drone do you use to get those b-roll shots? Is it a DJI?
DJI mini three pro
@@nics-systems-electric K thanks
I had a fire drill today so this made me laugh
Wow really cool fire alarm test, Nic! By the way do you work with SD33
For a fire panel that is a sizable display..... Looks bigger then the display on a gent vigilon (the goto honeywell panel in the UK)
Same as the one at my school NCA-2
Is that a verifier tools license in the description???
No verifier tools is not publicly accessible
@@nics-systems-electric i see, just got a little concerned when i saw that part of the description
@@STLMetroSirensMain sharing is caring
@@nics-systems-electric fair enough haha
TIL sounder bases exist in Canada
Why could you get in to the wood shop when you were doing the walk around and other doors
By opening the door?
This fire alarm system is nice
nice video like always!
What caused the smoke in the stairwell at the elementary some kid set something on fire?
No kids are not in school in the summertime concrete seems were being grind to be filled
My school has the same thing except the small building is for K-1 and the big building is for 2-8 and between them is a big driveway/parking lot and there's 3 gates for the big building the 1st one is for some staff, buses/vans and kids from the small building the 2nd gate is for parent pick up the 3rd gate is for other staff members and parents who are dropping off or pick kids up after 8:25am or 3:45 pm
The fire alarms don't seem to be working
Testing at this building went flawless no deficiencies were found
@@nics-systems-electric oh. I'm not an expert at fire alarms
56:24 RIP Headphone users that had their volume at 100%
Seems like you can hear the annunciator throughout the building
School Bathrooms In United States Should Have These Sinks 54:47
3030s are my favorite!
Now im trying to figure out whats worse. That one middle school with the wiring thats all over the place or this..... Holy christ the way this one is built hurts my head
The school isn't terrible just a lot of stuff going on as with any new building especially schools that have a lot of different systems in them some of the work could've been a little little cleaner if the project hadn't been rushed towards the end as much as it had been
56:23 loud alarm is coming!
Audible walk around at 56:23
AINT NO WAY THEY SPENT 600 BUCKS ON A FAUCET, THATS A FREAKING MILLIONAIRE MANSION
At my school my fire alarm system is a notifier and my school fire alarm system is a bit kinda look like the same but my school fire alarm system is a bit small
are you leaving the school distirc???
Yes
@@nics-systems-electric are you joining a different school district?
@@BlakesBench no I'm graduating so I won't be in the school district anymore
@@nics-systems-electricoh nice any furture videos and are you moving houses?
@@BlakesBench definitely not moving houses only 17 and with the average house price of 1.2 million not going anywhere soon
I wish all schools in the USA where this but it’s too Canadian to me
Why does it say "pre alarm"?
You would have to leave a time stamp to look at
Cool video
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#whatafirealarmfail Jimmy is wearing hearing protection
What are you talking about
32:46 What the hell!?
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I dislike how bland school's interior design is becoming. If you look at schools built in the 90s, they have alot of colors on the walls and sometimes floor tiles. Now you see schools being built with this sort of brutalist design which doesn't seem healthy for developing children. I could imagine this monochromatic color scheme could cause people to feel depressed over time.
I personally find it a much cleaner look as someone that went to an early 2000s Elementary School that was much more colourful. I don't mind the more modern approach I do like the colour adjustable lighting in the classrooms that can be changed to suit the needs of the classroom at that time which can greatly change the mood.
@@nics-systems-electric I guess I just prefer that coated cinder block, drywall, and wall to wall drop ceiling construction, feels more homey to me
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56:23 RIP your hearing headphone users with your volume at 100% and NIC'S SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC