My VERTICAL ANAMORPHIC Setup
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2024
- After my 1st video, I had several questions about how I setup my rig for vertical anamorphic. Here's a quick walk through!
#anamorphic #vertical #redcamera #komodo #atlas #orion #semishittyrig
I’d love to see more footage with this setup, especially of faces and even on a gimbal. Thanks for sharing this, it’s such a cool look
This is like playing soccer against kindergarteners. Imagine being a client receiving vertical Komodo footage 😍
Hahaha, that image…
There was no gate, Sam Roden opened a gate for all of us. Pun intended.
Haha. Nice! Manual open gate
do you have any videos in vertical orientation , I would love to see the actual output
If you watch my first UA-cam video you'll see a clip or two of raw footage from an unfinished fashion shoot. I'll post more next time I shoot a project this way.
thanks for help me alot bro!
Wow, useful tip!! Thank you so much!! Could not figure out how to rotate the image on my Focus 5 as well...
Could you please suggest how to set aspect ratio guides to frame for 16:9 or 1.85:1 with vertical setup?
Are you wanting to do that so you can crop either vertically or horizontally with the same footage? I think if you want 16:9 or 1.85:1 you should probably just shoot the normal way and save the vertical anamorphic for if you either want the boxy frame or need to shoot vertically. Seems to me, it will become quite a headache to try and do both and you're also losing a decent amount of resolution at that point. That said, if you really need to do it, I think the quicker way would be to measure the screen and put paper tape down. Manually might be easier... haha.
What custom desqueez do you need to put in monitor for a 1.5x anamorphic?
I haven’t tried, but I suspect it’s .75
@@samdotroden Thanks! I was hovering between .70-.75 on what just looked correct. I would suspect it to be .75 as well. Should give me enough to see what's in frame before post.
I've been wanting to do this experiment for a while! Thanks for posting this!! Did you say you were able to orient this to where the bokeh is stretch hortintazlly still? So you'd still have horizontal flares, not vertical flares? I suppose that can be controlled based on how you lock in the lens to the camera?
Yes, if you rotate the camera 90 degrees but leave the lens in the normal orientation, then the flares and bokeh remain in the normal orientation!
@@samdotroden one guy that worked at a rental shop told me that it was impossible to do a 90° rotation with a PL lens because of the orientated slot. I guess that your adapter doesn't have one. I hope I can test this setup in the near future because I love the anamorphic characteristics but my client require vertical AND horizontal content. The square aspect makes it a nice in-between. (I just shoot spherical with a 4/3 sensor most of the times).
@@romainhoudayer9119 the atlas lenses have slots in each tab so you can rotate the lens regardless of the pin. I think a lot of PL lenses have that now and I know there are other anamorphic setups that have worked for people this way, just not totally sure how many. But yeah, shooting this way does amount to something similar to an open gate shape on a 16:9 sensor!
wow,. I have an FX3, would this be the same setup with the same lens like you?
Yeah should work as long as you can rotate the lens 90 degrees. So any Pl lens should work
Is only Smallhd capable of custom desqueeze? Every monitor I’ve tried doesn’t have this function, Osee & Atomos 😔
I believe some of the portkeys monitors can do it, but not all of them. Also I believe the zcam allows you to do it internally. But yes, smallhd is your best bet.
@@samdotroden Really? Like their premium one? The BM5 or w/e
@@kazlepek6552 I'm not sure, I've only been told it's possible, might wanna ask around on a Facebook group about it. But yes, I think it's only on their premium ones. I had a cheaper one of theirs at one point and you could not do it.
@@kazlepek6552a little late, but just in case you were still looking into this, the portkeys pt6 is a super cheap option and it allows you to do custom Desqueeze anywhere from 0.25x - 4.0x. 👍
@@kazlepek6552 a little late, but just in case you were still looking into this the portkeys pt6 is a super cheap option and allows a custom desqueeze of anywhere from 0.25x - 4.0x.
We’ve been trying to figure out a production monitor solution for this set up, any suggestions for client monitor i.e. 13”, 17”, 22” +?
We are using a smallHD to monitor on camera, but it can’t “output” the corrected 0.5x squeeze page.
Hah, yeah this starts to get wonky in a bigger professional situation. Do the bigger SmallHDs also allow for reverse desqueeze? I suppose in theory you could do the same thing as on camera and rotate the monitor 90 degrees. I've seen rotated monitors on stills shoots before so it's definitely possible... let me know if you solve it.
@@samdotroden Thanks for the response and input! We found a solution, all of the larger SmallHD monitors work as long as they have the newest firmware update!
@@AlotoBrock Nice, that's good to know!
Now to find clients to make these videos. Yay ❤
While shooting with the same exact settings and desqueezing in Premiere, the second I click anamorphic 2.0 under pixels setting, it turns into a skinny mess 🤣 it squeezes it more
It seems when I apply my 2x desqueeze in Premeire it desqueezes it vertically, not horizontally after I rotate it. Any ideas how to fix that?
@@dice_mov That's definitely possible, I haven't tried in premiere. I'm not sure what you should do but I'd guess there's a way... sorry I can't be more helpful. Can also download the free version of resolve?
Cool! How much anamorphic squeeze would you need to get a final result of 16:9?
Not really possible. The best best would be to shoot the standard way, and crop the 2.40:1 down to 16:9.
@@samdotrodenhow close would you get with a 2x lens with an additional 1.5 adapter in the front, or does that create problems? Not sure how you would calculate this as I’ve not tried the realm on anamorphic yet. Would it be 9:16 -> 18:16 -> 27:16 that would be about 15:9?
Hehe i have experimented. I stacked a sirui 1.25 which will push closer to your goal as it has an 82mm thread rear. What you will lose is a bit of light and gain more "character" @nordfilmcompany
@@anthonyrock5039Brilliant, thanks mate! Worth it? What lens did you use with the adapter?
@nordfilmcompany keep in mind your filter size as you lens becomes a take in and to reduce vignette possibilities you want to be stepping up to your final optical additions. I started with my 50mm milvus and the 1.25 sirui anamorphic adapter rotated(you can mount it normally and then press an alignment button that allows for precise rotational possibilities)as I wanted to use it with another sirui 50 1.6 anamorphic but got side tracked 🤣. You will have to stop down as the point of focus narrows significantly.
What the side monitor grip?
I have a small rig top handle attached to a nato rail and the monitor is attached to the camera with a GDU hinge monitor mount.
@@samdotrodencan i get a link for monitor mount?
@@modern_warshop global-dynamics-united.myshopify.com/collections/komodo/products/gdu-komodo-monitor-mount but you may want to do this one instead kondorblue.com/products/monitor-swivel-mount-pan-tilt?variant=39828199702576¤cy=USD&g_network=x&g_productchannel=online&g_adid=&g_locinterest=&g_keyword=&g_campaign=account&g_adtype=pla&g_keywordid=&g_ifcreative=&g_acctid=814-825-7213&g_locphysical=9061095&g_adgroupid=&g_productid=shopify_US_4702132240432_39828199702576&g_source=%7Bsourceid%7D&g_merchantid=338217688&g_placement=&g_partition=&g_campaignid=19470157914&g_ifproduct=product&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAABsWx5thH-wrLlbaGHQ-hVh3rbx_2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlvW2BhDyARIsADnIe-IrcllzqgceMB6SEYebXFki-cg4cM7DNAAylcu7L9vggsDrEooy4NQaAiB4EALw_wcB
@@samdotroden thank u a lot, but i still can’t understand what will be better for hands shooting. So many things to understand 😢 Is it possible to get 360* video of your camera?
which monitor are you using?
SmallHD indie 7. But most if not all smallHD monitors can do this
But, what’s the point?
To some degree just playing around for fun. But I came across the idea because I wanted to feel the characteristics of anamorphic but needed to deliver in a vertical aspect ratio. It gives your anamorphic lens more use cases than 2.40:1.
looks cool
@@nbshftr - 😂🤣😂🤣
when done correctly the back ground blur is "stacked"more vertical .It is a special look.(A lot of work to setup too)
Here the taking lens is important because the bokeh is the key to the successful shot.