I had the pleasure of getting to work on a Camping World commercial spot with you back in July on the G&E team. You were such a pleasure to work with, stoked to have stumbled across your YT channel, and hope to work with you again in the future. Keep killing it brotha.
Yo! Thank you! It was great working with you. Thanks for everything you did. Your team was incredible. One of the hottest shoots I’ve ever been on lol. Constant sweating. Loved it. You in Orlando?
@@BlaineWestropp1 Thanks! Of course man, it was such a pleasure, and it was brutally hot lol. I am actually based in Tampa. If you're ever around again, would love to grab a coffee or beer if you have time!
I've found your videos and guides incredibly useful! You're actually the first UA-camr I've turned on notifications for. I'm not sure if I need an anamorphic lens, but your content has me excited to find out where I can buy a GreatJoy 50mm here in the UK!
Hey thanks so much! I’m happy that I’m the first one you turned on notifications for. I’ll make sure to make the next one a banger 😂. Check CVP, they gotta have it. I like the GJ 50.
I used the bulge tool for years before trying lens correction in resolve. There is also lens correction in fusion. They are all similar, but usually one comes out on top for each different lens.
Always very value content! Just love shooting horizontal with the anamorphics. Gives you this 4:3 vibe and 9:16 is also cool! Actually in Davinci you can just create a vertical timeline, calculate your horizontal pixels times your anamorphic desqueeze (for example 1.5x) and then tick the box for aspect ratio (1.5x) in your Clip details. Drag it in the timeline and done. No need for playing with the scales.
Thank you! Will need to test this, but isn’t the squeeze in resolve only working for when the lens is mounted properly? I’ll have to test. When I was shooting the footage came in desqueezed bc I left it on in camera.
@@BlaineWestropp1 to make it work you have to shoot vertically but mount the lens normally (horizontally), also to keep the horizontal flares and bokeh. For example: Shooting in 4k vertically (2160x3840) with an 1.5x anamorphic lens, you will end up in a pixel ratio of 3240x3840. When you create the vertical timeline with this ratio and tick the desqueeze box of your clip (1.5x) it will automatically desqueeze it correctly when you drag it into the timeline. I hope my explanation can be understood correctly :) This is an example for 16:9 sensors. If you have a 3:2 sensor and shoot vertically with a 2x anamorphic lens, then you end up with a 4:3 image, which is even nicer actually!
One thing I would recommend for 4K timelines that are scope is to consider using the DCI spec resolutions (4096 x 1716 for scope for example). It's an official scope spec so you won't run into strange cropping issues down the road if you end up delivering to other platforms like streaming, svod etc. Excellent demo of the cool things you can do with rotating the lens.
great info as always :) I also discovered recently that some s35 anamorphics will cover the 1:1 area on the mini LF which creates a cool 2:1 ratio with 2x lenses, and opens up a lot of different lens options! Recently did this with the Lomo round fronts and it created a really fun look
Thank you :) yep you can definitely get away with a lot more 2x lenses if delivering 2:1. I’ve recently started loving 2:1. How did you like the round fronts?
Thanks for the tips! I'm tempted to rotate my Sirui Saturn 35mm (Sony ZV-E1) but it means I need to unscrew the back of the E mount from the lens and rotate it. Unless I'm missing something obvious here.
Sure thing! Also, yes it is harder to rotate non PL mount lenses. I can’t say if that would work or not. But if you do do it… report back. Just be careful!
Always a pleasure. Aviascope 1.5 twisted to create square image is nice too. Anamorphic focus breathing just one reason why deakins dislikes them. Tested the cooke anamorphics and couldn’t believe the barrel distortion on verticals in interiors like a car park or walking down corridors. As you said normal correction does some odd things to the centre sometimes. No idea why anyone would want that. Hawk hybrid x1.3 anamorphics are popular choice for netfljx 2.1 ratio. Same characteristics across 35 and full frame, even a 16mm version. They have great close focus and are super compact. Thx as always.
Deakins like the true to life approach. Likely based on his start in the doc world. I also think this could be due to large budgets. Keep the image clean. Anamorphic can be distracting, but, I do like it. Also, Cookes in my experience have very much pincushion. I need to try the aivascope. I’ve seen some beautiful images from the aivascope. Maybe I get my hands on one soon…
@@BlaineWestropp1 agreed! Guess deakins has always hated artifice but ironically when shooting docs anamorphic was the first thing i went for and actually twisted the element during the shot( it was an adapter on a taking lens so weirdly the shot would go from out of focus and twist into focus. Used sparingly it worked well. I was definitely into making custom set ups back then and adding elements to existing lens) And thinking about it deakins is know for his deakiniser lens. btw i love anamorphic too and tilt shift (canon range seem very underused) bits of stocking or glass (lensbaby) on lens even lens wacking but these days its so easy to do so much in post. I remember shooting on film cameras with a massive bellows tilt shift lens way back when over 30 years ago and it was amazing. Very much like the deakiniser but i guess thats a good example of convergent evolution but using quite different processes though the creative results are surprisingly similar as an effect. Surprisingly intuitive to adjust the image plane with a bellows device. Like a 10x8 large format camera. That is exactly what the aviascope images squared up remind me of. Very paolo roversi. Guess that was the inspiration for using it. Guess i slightly ODed on that look but it still works. I think you’ll like the aviascope twisted up as a square frame for sure. I think in reality because of post a lot of these more analog optical lens affects do need idata to be part of the design at the high end but there’s a debate i guess about how naturalistic or abstracted any image should be. Any effect is signposting intent and it’s interesting to see anamorphic as an affect rather than a simple way to get a wider frame say as a 21mm but have the distortion characteristics of a 42mm so a lot easier on the face especially in two shots. As always a very timely and excellent post. Thx again.
We are in an amazing time for cinematography! With the current offerings from camera manufacturers, we’re able to mount lenses which ever way we wish and dial in aspect ratio while still being able to deliver within specification. For example, I’m able to leverage the larger-than-S35 image circles of the CookeMiniS4s by shooting 8K with the R5C and export in 4K DCI with pleasing results.
@@BlaineWestropp1 damn thanks man! i'll be happy to take you on that offer when I visit the US. Really happy you show almost all the roles of being in this industry.
I "anamorfaked" an old nikon 35 1.8 apsc lens with a rear oval cutout for my a7iv It has some native barrel distortion and currently loving the results it produces. Faking the bokeh without technically playing with the ratios is pretty cool. Thanks for the info ✌🏼
@@BlaineWestropp1 ua-cam.com/video/0D0fdu4XudY/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/MP4XamDOxZ8/v-deo.html these two sitting setups were shot with the 35mm. It's subtle but I surely like better than stock.
Thanks for the video. You didn't warn that this lens has a “feature”. breathing anamorphic ratio, which shifts from 1.8 to ~1.68 (if I'm not mistaken). And it depends on how close or far away the object of your focus is. It seems to me that this is a big minus for those who like to shoot objects that move. In general, this can create problems in post-production.
Can definitely create problems. I didn’t mention it but I didn’t mean to not mention it. Was never an issue for me. If the stretch was off I would fix in post. Of course this is definitely something you do not want in a lens.. and good to know.
If you were to pickup your first couple of cine primes Blaine, would you get a set of Great Joy anamorphics or similar, or a set of affordable spherical? I loved the look of these lenses but I was going to buy DZO/IRIX as my first cine glass. I am having a hard time deciding anamorphic or spherical (I have good photo/AF glass already). I adore your channel.
Hey thanks! I like anamorphic. Also like spherical. Anamorphic is good in only one scenario, when you get approved to shoot it. Spherical can be used for anything. So if you had one lens set, and wanted to use that set on a variety of projects, I’d go spherical then do anamorphic for 2nd set. But if you have spherical that you can use, try out anamorphic! I like the dzo vespids and they are my most recommended set to buy. Great look. Great price, solid lenses.
And with aivascope you got barrel, easier vertical anamorphic and it's also great to adapt to leica or zeiss set. More characters than those budget anamorphics too.
I brought 35-140mm zoom cooke lens. When i placed it on red gemini camera(rental) the lens is so so soft and dull ,wider then expected. Have no idea how to fix in divici resolve. Image doesnot look normal even after tried different ways to fix(clip attributes) strech. If you know something . Then reply please.
@@BlaineWestropp1 u mean lens distortion in OFX color page? it's different. the Color Page use the RGB value idk what scenarios needed for that, the lens distort is way better in fusion tab with the bunch of adjustments. I always use the fusion tab to make the anamorphic distort and bringing the information that being cropped by 2.39:1 aspect back to the frame.
I have only used the 50. I like it. They are on sale right now, so now could be a good time! They have pincushion distortion which I am not fond of, but I fix that in post.
the Alexa mini LF sensor is 36.70 x 25.54 mm, so about 1.44:1, rounded to 3:2. the Alexa 35 is 27.99 x 19.22, which is a close aspect ratio to the LF. in the menus on both camera's it is called 3:2.
Great and insightful as always. I really love anamorphic and its great to get your insights.
Hey thanks!
You’re always blessing the platform with knowledge
😇❤️
I had the pleasure of getting to work on a Camping World commercial spot with you back in July on the G&E team. You were such a pleasure to work with, stoked to have stumbled across your YT channel, and hope to work with you again in the future. Keep killing it brotha.
Yo! Thank you! It was great working with you. Thanks for everything you did. Your team was incredible. One of the hottest shoots I’ve ever been on lol. Constant sweating. Loved it. You in Orlando?
@@BlaineWestropp1 Thanks! Of course man, it was such a pleasure, and it was brutally hot lol. I am actually based in Tampa. If you're ever around again, would love to grab a coffee or beer if you have time!
Cool! Will definitely hit ya up next time I’m down there. Heading to Miami in a few days.
Your content is incredibly unique! Love your videos, keep uploading everything that comes to your head. Eres un maquina!
Hey thanks so much :) I will keep them coming 😊
I've found your videos and guides incredibly useful! You're actually the first UA-camr I've turned on notifications for. I'm not sure if I need an anamorphic lens, but your content has me excited to find out where I can buy a GreatJoy 50mm here in the UK!
Hey thanks so much! I’m happy that I’m the first one you turned on notifications for. I’ll make sure to make the next one a banger 😂. Check CVP, they gotta have it. I like the GJ 50.
Been binging all your videos lately. Love the no bs approach and I learn something new every time you drop a video. Keep up the great work.
hey thanks so much! more to come 😊
Always Love To See You Post!!
thank you 😊
Didn't know about the bulge effect in AE surprisingly. Learning something new, even after all these years. My man Blaine :P
I used the bulge tool for years before trying lens correction in resolve. There is also lens correction in fusion. They are all similar, but usually one comes out on top for each different lens.
The sideways camera and correctly oriented shots have a magnificent aesthetics imo. I love the resulting almost square format.
Me too. It’s really cool
Always very value content! Just love shooting horizontal with the anamorphics. Gives you this 4:3 vibe and 9:16 is also cool! Actually in Davinci you can just create a vertical timeline, calculate your horizontal pixels times your anamorphic desqueeze (for example 1.5x) and then tick the box for aspect ratio (1.5x) in your Clip details. Drag it in the timeline and done. No need for playing with the scales.
Thank you! Will need to test this, but isn’t the squeeze in resolve only working for when the lens is mounted properly? I’ll have to test. When I was shooting the footage came in desqueezed bc I left it on in camera.
@@BlaineWestropp1 to make it work you have to shoot vertically but mount the lens normally (horizontally), also to keep the horizontal flares and bokeh. For example: Shooting in 4k vertically (2160x3840) with an 1.5x anamorphic lens, you will end up in a pixel ratio of 3240x3840. When you create the vertical timeline with this ratio and tick the desqueeze box of your clip (1.5x) it will automatically desqueeze it correctly when you drag it into the timeline. I hope my explanation can be understood correctly :) This is an example for 16:9 sensors. If you have a 3:2 sensor and shoot vertically with a 2x anamorphic lens, then you end up with a 4:3 image, which is even nicer actually!
Your videos are always so informative and helpful. Many thanks.
Thank you thank you 😊
What a great breakdown! Thank you!
Thank you. More to come 😊
One thing I would recommend for 4K timelines that are scope is to consider using the DCI spec resolutions (4096 x 1716 for scope for example). It's an official scope spec so you won't run into strange cropping issues down the road if you end up delivering to other platforms like streaming, svod etc.
Excellent demo of the cool things you can do with rotating the lens.
Yes! Great point and thank you :)
@@BlaineWestropp1 also worth mentioning where to set the pixel aspect ratio in the metadata if it's not imported, but any, love seeing this
great info as always :) I also discovered recently that some s35 anamorphics will cover the 1:1 area on the mini LF which creates a cool 2:1 ratio with 2x lenses, and opens up a lot of different lens options! Recently did this with the Lomo round fronts and it created a really fun look
Thank you :) yep you can definitely get away with a lot more 2x lenses if delivering 2:1. I’ve recently started loving 2:1. How did you like the round fronts?
Thanks for the tips! I'm tempted to rotate my Sirui Saturn 35mm (Sony ZV-E1) but it means I need to unscrew the back of the E mount from the lens and rotate it. Unless I'm missing something obvious here.
Sure thing! Also, yes it is harder to rotate non PL mount lenses. I can’t say if that would work or not. But if you do do it… report back. Just be careful!
Always a pleasure. Aviascope 1.5 twisted to create square image is nice too. Anamorphic focus breathing just one reason why deakins dislikes them. Tested the cooke anamorphics and couldn’t believe the barrel distortion on verticals in interiors like a car park or walking down corridors. As you said normal correction does some odd things to the centre sometimes. No idea why anyone would want that. Hawk hybrid x1.3 anamorphics are popular choice for netfljx 2.1 ratio. Same characteristics across 35 and full frame, even a 16mm version. They have great close focus and are super compact. Thx as always.
Deakins like the true to life approach. Likely based on his start in the doc world. I also think this could be due to large budgets. Keep the image clean. Anamorphic can be distracting, but, I do like it. Also, Cookes in my experience have very much pincushion. I need to try the aivascope. I’ve seen some beautiful images from the aivascope. Maybe I get my hands on one soon…
@@BlaineWestropp1 agreed! Guess deakins has always hated artifice but ironically when shooting docs anamorphic was the first thing i went for and actually twisted the element during the shot( it was an adapter on a taking lens so weirdly the shot would go from out of focus and twist into focus. Used sparingly it worked well. I was definitely into making custom set ups back then and adding elements to existing lens) And thinking about it deakins is know for his deakiniser lens. btw i love anamorphic too and tilt shift (canon range seem very underused) bits of stocking or glass (lensbaby) on lens even lens wacking but these days its so easy to do so much in post. I remember shooting on film cameras with a massive bellows tilt shift lens way back when over 30 years ago and it was amazing. Very much like the deakiniser but i guess thats a good example of convergent evolution but using quite different processes though the creative results are surprisingly similar as an effect. Surprisingly intuitive to adjust the image plane with a bellows device. Like a 10x8 large format camera. That is exactly what the aviascope images squared up remind me of. Very paolo roversi. Guess that was the inspiration for using it. Guess i slightly ODed on that look but it still works. I think you’ll like the aviascope twisted up as a square frame for sure. I think in reality because of post a lot of these more analog optical lens affects do need idata to be part of the design at the high end but there’s a debate i guess about how naturalistic or abstracted any image should be. Any effect is signposting intent and it’s interesting to see anamorphic as an affect rather than a simple way to get a wider frame say as a 21mm but have the distortion characteristics of a 42mm so a lot easier on the face especially in two shots. As always a very timely and excellent post. Thx again.
We are in an amazing time for cinematography! With the current offerings from camera manufacturers, we’re able to mount lenses which ever way we wish and dial in aspect ratio while still being able to deliver within specification.
For example, I’m able to leverage the larger-than-S35 image circles of the CookeMiniS4s by shooting 8K with the R5C and export in 4K DCI with pleasing results.
Looove it! Amazing times
Don’t even own anamorphic lenses. I just like watching Blaine videos
Lemme know if you want to borrow one!
@@BlaineWestropp1 damn thanks man! i'll be happy to take you on that offer when I visit the US. Really happy you show almost all the roles of being in this industry.
As always, awesome.
Thank you :)
I "anamorfaked" an old nikon 35 1.8 apsc lens with a rear oval cutout for my a7iv
It has some native barrel distortion and currently loving the results it produces.
Faking the bokeh without technically playing with the ratios is pretty cool.
Thanks for the info ✌🏼
Love native barrel distortion on spherical lenses ❤️. Would love to see footage from that.
@@BlaineWestropp1 ua-cam.com/video/0D0fdu4XudY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/MP4XamDOxZ8/v-deo.html
these two sitting setups were shot with the 35mm. It's subtle but I surely like better than stock.
love these tests
Me too. More to come.
hope you do more video about analmorphic in the future
I’ll see what I can do
Thanks for the video. You didn't warn
that this lens has a “feature”. breathing anamorphic ratio, which shifts from 1.8 to ~1.68 (if I'm not mistaken). And it depends on how close or far away the object of your focus is. It seems to me that this is a big minus for those who like to shoot objects that move. In general, this can create problems in post-production.
Can definitely create problems. I didn’t mention it but I didn’t mean to not mention it. Was never an issue for me. If the stretch was off I would fix in post. Of course this is definitely something you do not want in a lens.. and good to know.
f4 looked great!
I agree. I also think this lens does fine at 2.9. On some other lenses the improvement from stopping down is much more apparent.
If you were to pickup your first couple of cine primes Blaine, would you get a set of Great Joy anamorphics or similar, or a set of affordable spherical? I loved the look of these lenses but I was going to buy DZO/IRIX as my first cine glass. I am having a hard time deciding anamorphic or spherical (I have good photo/AF glass already).
I adore your channel.
Hey thanks! I like anamorphic. Also like spherical. Anamorphic is good in only one scenario, when you get approved to shoot it. Spherical can be used for anything. So if you had one lens set, and wanted to use that set on a variety of projects, I’d go spherical then do anamorphic for 2nd set. But if you have spherical that you can use, try out anamorphic! I like the dzo vespids and they are my most recommended set to buy. Great look. Great price, solid lenses.
you're a star
thank you thank you :)
1,014th.
I like anamorphic
😇😇 sup dude.
And with aivascope you got barrel, easier vertical anamorphic and it's also great to adapt to leica or zeiss set. More characters than those budget anamorphics too.
Yep. I really want an aivascope!
For the algorithm 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
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I brought 35-140mm zoom cooke lens. When i placed it on red gemini camera(rental) the lens is so so soft and dull ,wider then expected. Have no idea how to fix in divici resolve. Image doesnot look normal even after tried different ways to fix(clip attributes) strech. If you know something . Then reply please.
Hmmm was it blurry? Would have to see a frame to know for sure. Feel free to link a frame here or message me on ig.
use lens distort in fusion tab, it's more advanced adjustments
Will check out. Last time I checked on this I felt it being identical to the OFX distortion in color page. Is it better?
@@BlaineWestropp1 u mean lens distortion in OFX color page? it's different. the Color Page use the RGB value idk what scenarios needed for that, the lens distort is way better in fusion tab with the bunch of adjustments. I always use the fusion tab to make the anamorphic distort and bringing the information that being cropped by 2.39:1 aspect back to the frame.
Cool thanks. Will check out!
Have you tried the 35 and 85? Do you recommend the great joy set for budget anamorphic set? Thanks!
I have only used the 50. I like it. They are on sale right now, so now could be a good time! They have pincushion distortion which I am not fond of, but I fix that in post.
@@BlaineWestropp1 thanks for the quick response! Love your work bro. Thanks for the gems you share
I thought the mini lf was 4:3 in open gate, is the Alexa 35 4:3?
the Alexa mini LF sensor is 36.70 x 25.54 mm, so about 1.44:1, rounded to 3:2. the Alexa 35 is 27.99 x 19.22, which is a close aspect ratio to the LF. in the menus on both camera's it is called 3:2.
Ok thanks for clarifying
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I really want to extract a 16:9 aspect ratio video from an 2.39:1 anamorphic format
you can
Where are the pretzels?
The are coming. Just ordered another big batch. Lol.
Why rotate the whole camera rig when you can just rotate the lens?
Both will provide vastly different looks!
Me no likey pincushion distortion
nope. im a barrel guy.
Barrel vibez
First
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Blaine cooked ya'll
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