I worked at US FOODS and they had Drivecam cameras. Forward and inward facing cameras. Drivecam said a driver was speeding. Corporate speed limit was 65. Said driver was running 70. Looking at the video the first thing you see is there is no driver in the truck. After watching it again you can tell everything is moving backwards. The truck was being towed from the rear but Drivecam said the driver was speeding. If you have a company monitoring drivers they need to be competent enough to know what they are looking at
It can be spun by you and SAIA as much as you want, the very bottom line is that NOBODY likes a camera looking at them in their face all day while you working and that is why SAIA will and should struggle to retain drivers. I have a friend that works for SAIA out of a PA terminal and he said if you do much as reach for something it triggers the camera and he hears about it. Bottom line there are many other driving jobs out there stepping up their pay that don’t have this. Another thing is the industry as a whole sucks anymore, traffic, cameras , beepers, buzzers, micro management, the company looking to harass you on bullshit, etc etc, this is why the industry is hurting for drivers . The companies did it to themselves and i gotta say it’s awesome to sit back and watch them have their problems and bitch and moan about it. That’s what happens when you hire fratboy idiots to run these companies. Enjoy your self created problems SAIA, another example of corporate America stupidity. Love your channel btw, keep up the good work
We’ll your friend lied to you. Nothing inside the cab triggers an event. And as I said, nobody likes the cameras. And, the other companies don’t have them yet. I hope they don’t get them, but I’m not optimistic. And thanks for watching. I appreciate it
@@MarksTruckingLife I work at Con-Way/XPO and we had the cameras before you guys did. They work pretty much the same way, and you're right, movement in the cab does not set them off to save the video. I am one of those people that likes the cameras to be there. I want to have proof that a 4 wheeler did what I said he did, and caused the accident. I like them so much, I now have them in my own personal vehicles. Like your videos too dude.
I'm a local daycab driver. We run Keep Trucking E logs. It's got a forward facing camera. My biggest complaint with them is. If anything is mounted in the windshield including cameras rearview mirrors, numerous transponders ETC. They are BLINDSPOTS as a driver I have to look around. And I hate the bus mirrors on the new trucks. I run a dump trailer and pull containers. Knowing that all rearview mirror s are a Blindspot. The most useful one I miss is the top spot mirror on the old west coast style mirrors. It allowed me to see the top corners of my "boxes" and when dumping the hoist topping out on the dump.
There's too many lawsuits going on right now with these stupid cameras. These corporate juggernauts trucking companies brought it upon themselves. Now they can reap what they've sewn. Absolutely NO REASON at all why a camera should be on a driver period...
If ever driver in America who operates OTR tossed these cameras out the window on the same day, there isn't a damn thing these companies could do about it! NOTHING!
These are invasive and another way for companies to micromanage their drivers. Any company that uses these should be out of business due to people walking away. I worked for 2 carriers that used these and I’ll never do it again. I should probably add that those cameras actually are always recording because it rewinds 7 seconds prior to the event being triggered. They can also go back and look manually if they were to get a complaint or felt like there was something they could catch you doing with no actual event needed. They are ALWAYS recording.
That's not entirely accurate. Typically, there is a FIFO buffer that stores about 30s to 1 min of video at a time, so when an event occurs, you can see the stuff leading up to it and directly after. They are technically always recording, but they aren't storing the entire video feed. That wouldn't even make sense. It would take up a ridiculous amount of storage in the SD card.
@@superchargedhelium956 Someone hit my truck mirror around 2pm safety manually downloaded my entire day to find the exact time it occurred almost 6 hours later. It’s recording and sending it to either a cloud, or some sort of SSD. I also had a guy bump my truck with a dolly on a day I didn’t work at like 2am the truck grabbed the situation even thought it was off and parked. It’s being sent to a cloud obviously because I didn’t report that accident - corporate told me.
@@dontdoxmebro That's because those cameras generally have accelerometers in them, so if they detect any kind of pulse when parked, the parking monitoring function records it and sends it up to the cloud for review. I don't see how that's invasive though, as it provides evidence in your favor in the case of hit and run accidents or vandalism. They obviously don't want to wait on drivers to report things because in the case it's minor, the driver may not even notice until much later, and if it's major, you don't even know whether the driver is actually safe and/or able to make any kind of report. If something incapacitates the driver, corporate/dispatch would still know to send help.
Of course, IMO it seems everything that someone might need to know about a particular incident can be determined by the externally directed cameras. If the driver ran off the road or crossed the lane to strike something, that is distinguishable from the action of other vehicles. So whether the driver was eating, sleeping or picking their nose wouldn't seem to matter, again in my estimation...
OD putting new cameras that are “outward” facing buuuuuuut, also has inward facing lense but they’re covered up right now. You know as well as I do they’ll be operational before we all know it ! All these young cats that can’t drive and would rather FB all day are ruining it for the entire industry!! My opinion at least. Good video Mark. 👍🏻
25 years in the truck. Zero accidents. No violations in 20 years. Two safety awards from different companies over the years. Lytx camera system installed last year and says I'm a poor driver and need coaching. Either I'm full of crap or the camera is.
I had interview with a company that demonstrated they could watch their drivers using their laptop to view inside the truck. A Pickup and delivery driver told me of getting wrote up for stopping at a convince store to use the bathroom. It's not a issue of pay that many divers are quiting over so much as how they are managed by their companies.
Hi Mark, I am more than likely going to be applying soon for the Henderson (Denver), CO terminal. They seem to always be hiring for P&D, but there is a listing for linehaul on the Saia job search page, which is what I would like to do. Do you know if they're on top of taking those listings down if they aren't actively hiring? Also do you happen to have have any info/insight about the terminal in Denver (size, volume, etc)? I'm a former fuel hauler but unfortunately I had to quit 8-9 months ago for some sudden life happenings, and I haven't worked since. Just wondering if you think that would be a major problem for me getting hired on. Also if you want to provide the info I'd be happy to put you down as a referral. Thanks and enjoy your weekend.
Why do they need audio? Why do they face them into the sleeper? They could just as easily put them above the passenger seat facing the driver! So why do they choose the MOST invasive place to install them? They KNOW what I say is TRUE!
You can be sure that the people who chose to put the camera on the driver would never allow the camera to be put on them...bunch of f'ing hypocrites. Another management perk.
I was told I can’t eat a donut n get yelled at by boss all the time. Not distracted. Can’t even vape. We’ll see how long it takes until I’m fired. Idc. But appreciate the video. Ty. -PissedOffBoxTruckDriver
Bay and bay got suede for it ... Lady dispatcher says to driver..on phone Next time you go to bed...don't be naked and close your curtains. Lady dispatcher is a peeping tom..
OD is getting the same cameras. But said if you role threw a stop sign it will trigger it ? so it seems to me they are watching 24/7. also cell phone reflection in the windshield
I don’t think they could afford the fees to have it saving video 24/7. I think there’s an integration in the camera with other technologies on the truck that triggers that.
Truckers driving history is already being recorded via satellite computer... they know where you been and they know if you went above your governed speed... they know if your engine is running or not!
I believe that any driver being recorded needs to have equal access to any video or audio of them, along with the logs of those who accessed the data! Place, time, name of anyone who viewed the video or audio! They should have to prove to the driver that they are NOT being recorded while off duty or in their sleeper EVER! If the information can be used against them, it should be available to them for their own defense! If Companies don't agree..... Then they can't record you at all! As it is they just tell you that you'll have to trust them and third parties you've never met!
@@MarksTruckingLife It should be required! Most are stored by a third party! The access logs need to be produced also! The first time you get a video and it was while you were off duty or in your sleeper, perhaps naked or getting laid..... They get sued! When they say that they ONLY get hard braking, swerving, etc videos... They need to prove it! Audio is just as important or more important! They can't be allowed to treat audio any different than they do video! And given the nature of humans.... They will abuse this eventually!
In my opinion it’s not invasion of your privacy. You’re on company time in company property, they have that right. Think of it like this, if you work in the office are you being watched and listened to all the time? It’s the same shit. I’m glad you drivers don’t like cameras, it leaves more job opportunities for those that are there to do a job under company guidelines and have nothing to hide.
Just let every one know. That camera will send videos even when the blue light is on. I can prove it. My blue light is on all the time even when I'm driving down the road and they still get videos.
The minute one of these trucks get into a major accident where someone is severely injured or fatally injured the victim's family should subpoena these records from the company and sue the company from every single dime they have that's what they get for putting forward facing cameras invading a driver privacy that would truly be Justice to see them pay hundreds of millions of dollars especially if the drivers are doing something wrong if that starts happening it will backfire on these big large companies and they will lose hundreds of millions of dollars... In liabilities in fines careful what you wish for
I've worked for a "large courier company" for 22 years and driver-facing cameras were installed about 6 months ago. I hated it the first couple of months. I don't think much about it now. There are a few actions that will set it off while performing necessary job functions. Example would be looking hard to the right to look for an address. The camera assumes I'm distracted. Fortunately management understands these situations and doesn't call every foul. They give weekly feedback with a % rating system. Overall, the camera is annoying at best.
The cameras are not "set off"...instead the person watching you 24/7 lights you up. Nothing is being "set off"..you are just being "reported" by a tool watcher!
and then there is the lady who is posted on mutha truckers channel where she got popped - she was awarded, picture hung in teh corporate office and suspended in teh same day. just a car cutting off the truck will trigger the camnera- and it expects you to suddenly brake which affects drivers behind you- she slowed down and opend the gap they way it should be done. it also dinged her for not keeping eyes on teh road-- sounds like there is much more to these cameras than what we know. its seems like the insurance carriers and politicians are the back seat drivers and the real drivers dont do a damn thing about it--- if we all just got together and parked the damn trucks until put the clock back to 1970s... we might have a good profession again
Invasion Of Privacy. Driver Facing Was Deemed Invasion Of Privacy In Canada By The Canadian Courts.If I Can't Listen To & Stare U In The Face All Day,U Shouldn't Be Able To That To Me Either. Outward Facing I Agree With But Inward Is A No Go.
I have a couple of friends that work out of the Barstow CA. yard. I was that it was a female driver in a sleeper truck, someone had recorded and posted online,she won a 2 million dollar settlement.
@@ericockey9450 i remember hearing about that case. apparently theres a few. Theres also suppose to be a site where you might just see a few videos of drivers in their sleeper being posted by those minimum wage employees of the third party viewing companies. unbased rumor im sure....
If you're talking about that 2 to 4 seconds distance I got a story for you You're in traffic you're doing no more than 10 to 15 miles an hour stop and go Company calls you and tells you you're following too close 3 times when you're in traffic you're not slamming on breaks You're stopping and going What do you call that And they are telling you that you are tailgating And telling you how to do your driving What you call that
@@perryfefchuk637 Yep you got that right workplace harassment some companies will harass you with it one way some company will harass you in a different way Companies are just trying to see How they can cover their ass
@@MarksTruckingLife If you read the 2nd comment the 2nd comment tells you the truth the way I see it and and the comment that I left him was that companies are just trying to see how they can cover their asses
Look trust me they say it won’t record unless u have a braking situation. Well I’m here to tell u that’s 1000% false yes it does. I’ve had first hand experiences
Every professional Driver in this Country who operates OTR should toss them out the window! Choise a day and toss them! These companies would be FORCED to COMPLY! If their choice is no divers, what exactly are they gonna do about it? They talk about Industry Standards?? We professionals are the Standard! They can't do 💩 without us!
why would a company force a driver to give up thier constitutional rights.? why would you want video of a tired driver- even on a good day most of us fight several hours of fatigue until the fog lifts and then you could run for 24hs. filming your driver and have anything they do in a court of law is just plain stupid. plus then you cant yell and scream at the winshield - curse out the boss be running for president or yell at your spouse without being recorded. plus it will catch you pissing in a bottle instead of wasting 20 minutes to just pull off the exit.
I've worked with other companies with camera as well and I have had the same experiences. your driver managers or HR that reviews these will be pretty understandable (in my experience) I have had the camera go off for bumps, curves etc. Only time is if hard brake, curves going too fast, following distance etc and if it did go off they'll talk to me and dismiss it for the most part if the driver cut me off or something dumb. They aren't going to fire you unless you majorly screw up and don't fix your errors they talk to u about. I would still rather not have a camera but it doesn't bother me one bit because I know I am a good driver. So.. - use a hands free device - focus and drive on the road like a responsible driver - eating while driving won't get you fired 👍
I'm all in favor of forward facing camera's,,, but why in the world would you want to give up you 5th amendment rights just to have some pencil neck or desk jockey find some small point that you should have done,, all it does is belittle a person to believing there is always a person looking over your shoulder,, do me a favor & go ask your boss if he'd like a camera filming him all day long
If you work for a company like this they are scared of their drivers they want to see what is going on with him 24/7 365 even when he's asleep in the sleeper bird they can't stand not to see what the driver is up to that is why I will never work for a company like that Melissa Valley has that crap so does a company in Nebraska
@@MarksTruckingLife that's good to know.. I'm about to start with saia in Chicago area and worried about what others in a Facebook group have said about their cameras
Nope. Won’t do it. My company has smart drive outward facing. I won’t do the inward at all. I agree cellphone usage if your holding a phone is out of control. Drivers need to start policing themselves. I don’t get micro managed at, but I’m smart enough to know Not to do stupid crap. At .68 cpm guarantee miles with hook pay… I am very careful to not loose my job over un safe behavior.
In my day, you were a good driver because you wanted to be, not because you were forced to be.
Very sad that this is where we are now.
That guy is a tool..he is saia's tool...company b!tch! He knows no other way to be.
I worked at US FOODS and they had Drivecam cameras. Forward and inward facing cameras. Drivecam said a driver was speeding. Corporate speed limit was 65. Said driver was running 70. Looking at the video the first thing you see is there is no driver in the truck. After watching it again you can tell everything is moving backwards. The truck was being towed from the rear but Drivecam said the driver was speeding. If you have a company monitoring drivers they need to be competent enough to know what they are looking at
It can be spun by you and SAIA as much as you want, the very bottom line is that NOBODY likes a camera looking at them in their face all day while you working and that is why SAIA will and should struggle to retain drivers. I have a friend that works for SAIA out of a PA terminal and he said if you do much as reach for something it triggers the camera and he hears about it. Bottom line there are many other driving jobs out there stepping up their pay that don’t have this. Another thing is the industry as a whole sucks anymore, traffic, cameras , beepers, buzzers, micro management, the company looking to harass you on bullshit, etc etc, this is why the industry is hurting for drivers . The companies did it to themselves and i gotta say it’s awesome to sit back and watch them have their problems and bitch and moan about it. That’s what happens when you hire fratboy idiots to run these companies. Enjoy your self created problems SAIA, another example of corporate America stupidity.
Love your channel btw, keep up the good work
I totally agree with the frat boy statement…
Honestly, pretty much agree with all of what you said.
We’ll your friend lied to you. Nothing inside the cab triggers an event. And as I said, nobody likes the cameras. And, the other companies don’t have them yet. I hope they don’t get them, but I’m not optimistic.
And thanks for watching. I appreciate it
💯 Couldn't have said it any better myself. I got a 03 Terminator as well😉
@@MarksTruckingLife I work at Con-Way/XPO and we had the cameras before you guys did. They work pretty much the same way, and you're right, movement in the cab does not set them off to save the video. I am one of those people that likes the cameras to be there. I want to have proof that a 4 wheeler did what I said he did, and caused the accident. I like them so much, I now have them in my own personal vehicles. Like your videos too dude.
@@Dtoolman
Thanks and thanks for watching.
Driver facing cameras big company's will see how many drivers they will need . I personally would not work for a company that has these devices.
No more scratching ur nuts while driving lol
I work for saia and adjust my nuts constantly and still work here. So either they enjoy watching me fidget with my gonads or they aint watching
I'm a local daycab driver. We run Keep Trucking E logs. It's got a forward facing camera. My biggest complaint with them is. If anything is mounted in the windshield including cameras rearview mirrors, numerous transponders ETC.
They are BLINDSPOTS as a driver I have to look around. And I hate the bus mirrors on the new trucks. I run a dump trailer and pull containers. Knowing that all rearview mirror s are a Blindspot.
The most useful one I miss is the top spot mirror on the old west coast style mirrors. It allowed me to see the top corners of my "boxes" and when dumping the hoist topping out on the dump.
Cameras record on an endless Loop... if there's a driving incident the video can be reviewed... the videos are time-stamped!
There's too many lawsuits going on right now with these stupid cameras. These corporate juggernauts trucking companies brought it upon themselves. Now they can reap what they've sewn. Absolutely NO REASON at all why a camera should be on a driver period...
If ever driver in America who operates OTR tossed these cameras out the window on the same day, there isn't a damn thing these companies could do about it! NOTHING!
If you're driving and open a can of tuna, and put it in the microwave, that will get you fired. 🤣
These are invasive and another way for companies to micromanage their drivers. Any company that uses these should be out of business due to people walking away. I worked for 2 carriers that used these and I’ll never do it again. I should probably add that those cameras actually are always recording because it rewinds 7 seconds prior to the event being triggered. They can also go back and look manually if they were to get a complaint or felt like there was something they could catch you doing with no actual event needed. They are ALWAYS recording.
That's not entirely accurate. Typically, there is a FIFO buffer that stores about 30s to 1 min of video at a time, so when an event occurs, you can see the stuff leading up to it and directly after. They are technically always recording, but they aren't storing the entire video feed. That wouldn't even make sense. It would take up a ridiculous amount of storage in the SD card.
@@superchargedhelium956
Someone hit my truck mirror around 2pm safety manually downloaded my entire day to find the exact time it occurred almost 6 hours later. It’s recording and sending it to either a cloud, or some sort of SSD. I also had a guy bump my truck with a dolly on a day I didn’t work at like 2am the truck grabbed the situation even thought it was off and parked. It’s being sent to a cloud obviously because I didn’t report that accident - corporate told me.
@@dontdoxmebro That's because those cameras generally have accelerometers in them, so if they detect any kind of pulse when parked, the parking monitoring function records it and sends it up to the cloud for review. I don't see how that's invasive though, as it provides evidence in your favor in the case of hit and run accidents or vandalism. They obviously don't want to wait on drivers to report things because in the case it's minor, the driver may not even notice until much later, and if it's major, you don't even know whether the driver is actually safe and/or able to make any kind of report. If something incapacitates the driver, corporate/dispatch would still know to send help.
What is "accurate" is that only tools drive trucks with driver facing cameras.@@superchargedhelium956
Smith transport has very cool UA-cam video. ...company sounds awesome. ....thinking about working 4 them....until the face forward camera. .....
Of course, IMO it seems everything that someone might need to know about a particular incident can be determined by the externally directed cameras. If the driver ran off the road or crossed the lane to strike something, that is distinguishable from the action of other vehicles. So whether the driver was eating, sleeping or picking their nose wouldn't seem to matter, again in my estimation...
OD putting new cameras that are “outward” facing buuuuuuut, also has inward facing lense but they’re covered up right now. You know as well as I do they’ll be operational before we all know it ! All these young cats that can’t drive and would rather FB all day are ruining it for the entire industry!! My opinion at least. Good video Mark. 👍🏻
Don't dismiss veteran truckers getting in accidents. It isn't always the newbies. Age and experience isn't categorized in ignorance on the road
Wrong. The spot where the inward facing camera for OD would be is a button to record an event.
@@thesmallfryshow oh ok, just repeating what I was told. Mine don’t have it yet.
@@mateo85tx mines does. But it can pick up your reflection. I have a lot of videos on my channel.
@@thesmallfryshow I’ll check out your channel. Thank !
The only trucks that should have cameras facing them is SWIFT
I’m always singing and yelling and cursing and talking to myself and eating, and blowing my nose😅
I cussed alot
25 years in the truck.
Zero accidents.
No violations in 20 years.
Two safety awards from different companies over the years.
Lytx camera system installed last year and says I'm a poor driver and need coaching.
Either I'm full of crap or the camera is.
I had interview with a company that demonstrated they could watch their drivers using their laptop to view inside the truck. A Pickup and delivery driver told me of getting wrote up for stopping at a convince store to use the bathroom. It's not a issue of pay that many divers are quiting over so much as how they are managed by their companies.
Management matters. How a company uses the cameras for discipline makes the difference. Some do better than others.
It's an invasion of driver privacy
Did you catch what I said about that in the video?
This Saia tool does not care about his privacy. When the company tells him to bend over...he bends over and takes it!
Only forward facing cameras at Averitt. No driver facing cameras here.
Yet
😎😎😎
@@MarksTruckingLife true but I hope not.
The Saia rumors are pretty funny. "If you listen to music you will get fired." Lol
Keep convincing you're self about them not screwing you over.
Hi Mark, I am more than likely going to be applying soon for the Henderson (Denver), CO terminal. They seem to always be hiring for P&D, but there is a listing for linehaul on the Saia job search page, which is what I would like to do. Do you know if they're on top of taking those listings down if they aren't actively hiring? Also do you happen to have have any info/insight about the terminal in Denver (size, volume, etc)? I'm a former fuel hauler but unfortunately I had to quit 8-9 months ago for some sudden life happenings, and I haven't worked since. Just wondering if you think that would be a major problem for me getting hired on. Also if you want to provide the info I'd be happy to put you down as a referral. Thanks and enjoy your weekend.
What they don't want you to know is they can dial into the camera and see you live and that's a fact
The capability is there but costs the company extra. As many trucks as we have, Saia’s not paying for it.
Why do they need audio? Why do they face them into the sleeper? They could just as easily put them above the passenger seat facing the driver! So why do they choose the MOST invasive place to install them? They KNOW what I say is TRUE!
We don’t have driver facing in the team trucks.
@@MarksTruckingLife Why Not?
You can be sure that the people who chose to put the camera on the driver would never allow the camera to be put on them...bunch of f'ing hypocrites. Another management perk.
@@jl909-nr5vx Absolutely! I couldn't agree more!
@@MarksTruckingLife What about Solo Drivers with their wives or children?
I was told I can’t eat a donut n get yelled at by boss all the time. Not distracted. Can’t even vape. We’ll see how long it takes until I’m fired. Idc. But appreciate the video. Ty. -PissedOffBoxTruckDriver
I eat all the time and no one said anything
Bay and bay got suede for it ...
Lady dispatcher says to driver..on phone
Next time you go to bed...don't be naked and close your curtains.
Lady dispatcher is a peeping tom..
No we the people don't have to think nothing over except are freedom, they can keep all there money and Perks,
OD is getting the same cameras. But said if you role threw a stop sign it will trigger it ? so it seems to me they are watching 24/7. also cell phone reflection in the windshield
I don’t think they could afford the fees to have it saving video 24/7. I think there’s an integration in the camera with other technologies on the truck that triggers that.
You're listing a bunch of bad reasons to surrender your freedom!
Driver facing cameras should be illegal, especially as a chronic masturbator.
My driver's license says my residence is the Truck!
It's recording all the time. Doesn't matter. Cameras should be facing outwardly only.
Truckers driving history is already being recorded via satellite computer... they know where you been and they know if you went above your governed speed... they know if your engine is running or not!
Big bro doesn't need to see me scratch my itch
I believe that any driver being recorded needs to have equal access to any video or audio of them, along with the logs of those who accessed the data! Place, time, name of anyone who viewed the video or audio! They should have to prove to the driver that they are NOT being recorded while off duty or in their sleeper EVER! If the information can be used against them, it should be available to them for their own defense! If Companies don't agree..... Then they can't record you at all! As it is they just tell you that you'll have to trust them and third parties you've never met!
We have a portal on our employees website so we can look at any video we have. Also I’ve had my Linehaul manager email them to me.
@@MarksTruckingLife It should be required! Most are stored by a third party! The access logs need to be produced also! The first time you get a video and it was while you were off duty or in your sleeper, perhaps naked or getting laid..... They get sued! When they say that they ONLY get hard braking, swerving, etc videos... They need to prove it! Audio is just as important or more important! They can't be allowed to treat audio any different than they do video! And given the nature of humans.... They will abuse this eventually!
I can’t speak for any other company, but we don’t have any driver facing cameras in our sleeper trucks. Just the Daycabs.
@@MarksTruckingLife At least the company you work for seems to have a conscious!
Covered up. Cover it up❤
If I want to get fired. 😎😎
Good stuff Mark thank you;)
In my opinion it’s not invasion of your privacy. You’re on company time in company property, they have that right. Think of it like this, if you work in the office are you being watched and listened to all the time? It’s the same shit. I’m glad you drivers don’t like cameras, it leaves more job opportunities for those that are there to do a job under company guidelines and have nothing to hide.
Those cameras are always recording
Roehl uses the front facing and driver cams and it only activates during an event, showing the 10 seonds before and after
Just let every one know. That camera will send videos even when the blue light is on. I can prove it. My blue light is on all the time even when I'm driving down the road and they still get videos.
The minute one of these trucks get into a major accident where someone is severely injured or fatally injured the victim's family should subpoena these records from the company and sue the company from every single dime they have that's what they get for putting forward facing cameras invading a driver privacy that would truly be Justice to see them pay hundreds of millions of dollars especially if the drivers are doing something wrong if that starts happening it will backfire on these big large companies and they will lose hundreds of millions of dollars... In liabilities in fines careful what you wish for
It already has which is why some companies got rid of them.
Is Saia still getting the new A.I. 📷 they tested in Tampa they work by head movement
I haven’t heard anything more about it.
You say it doesn't record but if it can record 1 10 seconds before and 10 seconds after an event obviously it's been on
You boys are getting starved is 38$ per hr in California lol only reason i dont apply to saia is solely on the camera things
Huh? Lol good grief 😂🤦🏻♂️
I've worked for a "large courier company" for 22 years and driver-facing cameras were installed about 6 months ago. I hated it the first couple of months. I don't think much about it now. There are a few actions that will set it off while performing necessary job functions. Example would be looking hard to the right to look for an address. The camera assumes I'm distracted. Fortunately management understands these situations and doesn't call every foul. They give weekly feedback with a % rating system. Overall, the camera is annoying at best.
The cameras are not "set off"...instead the person watching you 24/7 lights you up. Nothing is being "set off"..you are just being "reported" by a tool watcher!
I've never seen a U-Haul behind a hearse.
and then there is the lady who is posted on mutha truckers channel where she got popped - she was awarded, picture hung in teh corporate office and suspended in teh same day. just a car cutting off the truck will trigger the camnera- and it expects you to suddenly brake which affects drivers behind you- she slowed down and opend the gap they way it should be done. it also dinged her for not keeping eyes on teh road-- sounds like there is much more to these cameras than what we know. its seems like the insurance carriers and politicians are the back seat drivers and the real drivers dont do a damn thing about it--- if we all just got together and parked the damn trucks until put the clock back to 1970s... we might have a good profession again
Yes the Day is Coming
Invasion Of Privacy. Driver Facing Was Deemed Invasion Of Privacy In Canada By The Canadian Courts.If I Can't Listen To & Stare U In The Face All Day,U Shouldn't Be Able To That To Me Either. Outward Facing I Agree With But Inward Is A No Go.
Saia was sued in Harrisburg,PA because off the audio
Would never work there they can keep there money
I have SiriusXM on my phone! How is that any different than the dash mounted XM units?
Mostly, for me, my actual XM radio has favorites saved and I get notifications when one of them are playing on any channel.
It's not about what you're doing as much as it is what happens while you're doing whatever
You have to be smarter than the camera 😎
@@MarksTruckingLife this^
Honestly I don't see an issue if it's a daycab. A sleeper? No.
These cameras are disrespectful.
I am peeking at you 👁
JB hunt was already sued for this and lost.
Source?
I have a couple of friends that work out of the Barstow CA. yard. I was that it was a female driver in a sleeper truck, someone had recorded and posted online,she won a 2 million dollar settlement.
Our sleeper trucks don’t have them
@@ericockey9450 i remember hearing about that case. apparently theres a few.
Theres also suppose to be a site where you might just see a few videos of drivers in their sleeper being posted by those minimum wage employees of the third party viewing companies. unbased rumor im sure....
If you're talking about that 2 to 4 seconds distance I got a story for you You're in traffic you're doing no more than 10 to 15 miles an hour stop and go Company calls you and tells you you're following too close 3 times when you're in traffic you're not slamming on breaks You're stopping and going What do you call that And they are telling you that you are tailgating And telling you how to do your driving What you call that
It all depends on how individual companies use them. Obviously some do better than others.
I would call that workplace harassment and sue them.
@@perryfefchuk637 Yep you got that right workplace harassment some companies will harass you with it one way some company will harass you in a different way Companies are just trying to see How they can cover their ass
@@MarksTruckingLife If you read the 2nd comment the 2nd comment tells you the truth the way I see it and and the comment that I left him was that companies are just trying to see how they can cover their asses
Look trust me they say it won’t record unless u have a braking situation. Well I’m here to tell u that’s 1000% false yes it does. I’ve had first hand experiences
Hard brake is one of many things that set it off
I don't pretty much don't care about a driver facing camera
Not going to happen, front yes but not inward facing
Violation of constitution right
Every professional Driver in this Country who operates OTR should toss them out the window! Choise a day and toss them! These companies would be FORCED to COMPLY! If their choice is no divers, what exactly are they gonna do about it? They talk about Industry Standards?? We professionals are the Standard! They can't do 💩 without us!
why would a company force a driver to give up thier constitutional rights.? why would you want video of a tired driver- even on a good day most of us fight several hours of fatigue until the fog lifts and then you could run for 24hs. filming your driver and have anything they do in a court of law is just plain stupid. plus then you cant yell and scream at the winshield - curse out the boss be running for president or yell at your spouse without being recorded. plus it will catch you pissing in a bottle instead of wasting 20 minutes to just pull off the exit.
I've worked with other companies with camera as well and I have had the same experiences. your driver managers or HR that reviews these will be pretty understandable (in my experience) I have had the camera go off for bumps, curves etc. Only time is if hard brake, curves going too fast, following distance etc and if it did go off they'll talk to me and dismiss it for the most part if the driver cut me off or something dumb. They aren't going to fire you unless you majorly screw up and don't fix your errors they talk to u about. I would still rather not have a camera but it doesn't bother me one bit because I know I am a good driver.
So..
- use a hands free device
- focus and drive on the road like a responsible driver
- eating while driving won't get you fired
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Eating while driving is distracted driving you will get reprimanded or fined .... no camera no problem
@@perryfefchuk637 it won't go off on the camera so it's fine. I snack all the time.
We can eat and drink all we want.
@@MarksTruckingLife foreal. We are human too haha
Can you listen to the radio?
You can do all the normal things. Just don’t have the phone in your hand.
@@MarksTruckingLife got it
We were told we can’t be on the phone at any time we’re in the vehicle and it’s moving and this is just a work vehicle not a rig
I'm all in favor of forward facing camera's,,, but why in the world would you want to give up you 5th amendment rights just to have some pencil neck or desk jockey find some small point that you should have done,, all it does is belittle a person to believing there is always a person looking over your shoulder,, do me a favor & go ask your boss if he'd like a camera filming him all day long
Dude you don’t know how they actually work, you only know what Saiia told you about how they work.
Who can be comfortable with the idea of some pervert staring at you all day while doing who knows what to himself? Yuck.
If you work for a company like this they are scared of their drivers they want to see what is going on with him 24/7 365 even when he's asleep in the sleeper bird they can't stand not to see what the driver is up to that is why I will never work for a company like that Melissa Valley has that crap so does a company in Nebraska
1984
I heard that a driver got written up for using a tooth pick and picking his nose and drinking water
Not true. That isn’t how it works.
@@MarksTruckingLife that's good to know.. I'm about to start with saia in Chicago area and worried about what others in a Facebook group have said about their cameras
@@sweetness2689
Which FB group?
@@MarksTruckingLife it's called "LTL truck drivers". Many drivers say there is a lot of micromanaging. But I will give saia a try 🙂
@@sweetness2689
Sometimes it depends on what terminal you’re at. Some do a better job than others
I can tell you vote Democrat !!
100% no doubt about it. The guy takes it up the A$$...company b!tch all the way.
Nope. Won’t do it. My company has smart drive outward facing. I won’t do the inward at all. I agree cellphone usage if your holding a phone is out of control. Drivers need to start policing themselves. I don’t get micro managed at, but I’m smart enough to know Not to do stupid crap. At .68 cpm guarantee miles with hook pay… I am very careful to not loose my job over un safe behavior.
Employers CAN live watch their drivers. It says so on their website.
They can sure. But lytics charges an extra fee for that and as many trucks as we have I don’t see Saia paying that.