This is a great demo for this amp and an ingenious way to record both tones examples at one time and ping-pong them within the course of a single run demo. This thing kicks ass!
You could use the Batamp’s effects loop send to the return of a larger wattage amp to use the BantAmp as a preamp. A lot of guys with the Micro Terror heads use them that way to get a giggable Orange sound from those little suckers. I will never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get tired of that demo baseline.
@@GunsandGuitars true, I wonder if the signal goes through another buffer en route to the headphone jack in order to allow you to control the volume. If so, that might choke the tone a little. I know that the Micro Terror sounds awesome as is and as a preamp via the loop send, but sounds awful and sizzly through headphone jack.
@@GunsandGuitars The headphone output is made for another load (ohms) and the loop is basicly a line out. You wont break anything by using hp out but chances are it sounds better on the send :) Is this amp safe to play without speaker connected?
Great review Dan! I agree I think a XLR would make a lot more sense! Hopefully one day I can order a bass from you! Especially with that one sik headstock you make where the tuners are inside the headstock!
Awesome demo, Dan. 😎🤘🏻🎸 this amp sounds pretty cool. I do dig the joyo guitar amps like the vivo(which is my most favorite since I’m a Huge peavey guitar amp fan) and the zombie. And I did wonder if they’ll make a bass amp. And it really does deliver some great tones. this is a pretty cool sounding bass amp.
The odd thing here is that I didn't really notice the difference going from the DI sound to the Bantamp, but as soon as it switched back there was that instant impression of 'it's missing something'.
Great review .... as you say, I've seen mixed reviews on the Joyo Badass, but having it demonstrated with an actual bass guitarvreally helps. It's now on the "things to buy" list :) Slight aside, you do some pretty cool riffs in your demos ... any chance you could transcribe some ?
I've been trying to convince fellow low enders how amazing this little beauty is. I haven't gigged it but I have rehearsed with it with a full band with two 8ohm cabs and it astonished me! It's an amazing little piece of kit.
Thanks for sharing, checked out a couple of other videos on this little bad boy. I just purchased a Focusrite scarlet solo. I mainly got that for audio interface for bass lessons via zoom. Im thinking of maybe plugging my bass into this and then out to the instrument input on the focusrite for my lessons maybe. May give my spector bass some kick. Could probably use for headphone practice or tiny gigs when I get good enough. LOL Peace bro that was awesome.
This is a separate question for you. I watch you as well as Trogley and his long haired compatriot but I also look at other you tubers that actually build. My question for you is there any videos you did that covers grain fill and how to make that pop on a maple top whether it's spalted quilted or birdseye. I like to watch you because you tend to get to the subject at hand quicker than some of the others.
It actually can keep up with a band if the venue has a PA to hook into by using either : A.) A passthru DI box in the FX loop so you can use the amp and whatever cab you have as a monitor on stage, and send to FOH, or use the DI box to patch into a larger XLR input power amp B.) a DI plugged with a cable coming straight out of the headphone jack to go straight to FOH or a larger power amp on stage. C.) Likewise, you can get a small PA setup for reinforcement/monitoring, and if you have enough inputs, you can run 2 guitars and a bass with vox, and then send that to FOH anyway. That last option also allows you to even play gigs with no PA, since at that point you have your own, or if you can do house parties/concerts in your local park/private bookings, if that's your thing.
But what is the Dan Thompson way of using it? Also I think the Headphone output probably will have an IR/speaker emulation on it to not sound so harsh, right? So, if that would be the case, and you want the untainted preamp experience, you would have to use the FX loop out into the interface. With that it would be interesting to see where in the line the compression and gain sit (before or after the FX loop).
Great video! Subscribed! Just a question, I ordered mine and I will be receiving it today. I was thinking to connect the head to an Orange Crush 50 combo amp via the effects send from the Joyo to the effects return of the Orange. Why did you connected the Joyo via the headphone jack and not the effects send? I know you build yourself guitars, cabinets, etc. You know more than me, that's a fact, I want to understand why (and yes, I will connect via headphones, but If you could please explain I would be very grateful). Thanks!! Cheers from Argentina!
Connected the badass via effects send to my scarlet 2i2. there was a high pitch chirping noise. Then I connected via headphone jack, no noise. In the case of my copy of the amp it's much better through the headphone jack
Bit late now, but I have the Jackman (JCM 800 clone) and I run that out the fx loop into my orange crush bass 50 for a Lemmy style marshall distortion tone for my bass. It works an absolute treat
So, I've been using my Wangs VT-10 guitar combo/amp to practice my Bass playing at home, and then playing along with a friend of mine on Twitch. Surprisingly the little Wangs sounds really good with either my Guitar (Hagstrom Swede P-90's) and my Bass (Orange O-Bass). I want to build a dual 10" isobaric cabinet (Similar to the Orange cabs but without the cost) and I'm wondering will this little Joyo Badass "Demon" drive the cab sufficiently for home practice and even some garage style fun with friends? I know you should always double the power of the bass to the guitars because bass frequency is low and the disperses faster than higher frequencies, in fact a friend likes using my little VT-10 when we get together and I use an old Crate Bass combo/amp I have kicking around, but in my opinion the tubes in the Wangs sound so good on either Bass or Guitar that I want a tube head for my next amp. Would you recommend this for my application and needs?
@@bassimprovjams3772 I've just finished my last kit (a StewMac body built acoustic. Maybe in the new few weeks I'll get started on the bass. I actually do have a kit ready to go.
@@MrDaveKC awesome man!!! There’s some great kits out there! Low end lobster has done a few great kits for us he did a beautiful Fender Pbass! Probably the nicest P I have ever seen IMO hope it turns out killer !!
I think the best way to use one of these...is to use 2 of these. Biamp. 2 of these in simulated stereo, with something like the Tech21 DI2112 to split the signal.
look cool , but as you say for gig , will be better serve with tc electronic for compact rig , , i use a small guitar frontman with 2x10 cab to practice bass , and 300w berhinger , and have also a 200w pevey rack amp , to play with band ,
I've got a friend who builds boutique amps and goes by the name Boone Docks amps. I've only heard one since he was in the band but if it's any indication of his work it sounded great. I'm not familiar with BanTamp but if it works. I guess you'd need to have a rig with an E drum setup so your not over powered. Loud drummers and lead guitarist seem to be the biggest issue with bands. Hey are you doing background music for Seinfeld? Lmao.
Is the tube actually being used as a tube? The original single channel Bantamps used a starved plate design and the tubes were just lit up with an LED so you could power the entire thing with a battery but this looks like it needs much more power to work.
I have a 10inch celestion 200w bass cab that i (surprisingly) use as a guitar cab.. will this amp push the bass cab beyond "bedroom levels"?. I'm talking about a coffee shop gig with a controlled drummer
For guitar? Definitely. You’re not using the wattage to push low frequencies like on bass. With bass all the power is sucked into making deep low end frequencies, below 120 hz
I'm not a bass player. I only play guitar. Maybe my ears aren't all that great anymore from cranking my half stack up but, I really couldn't hear any difference from your "Direct Box" vs the Joyo?? If anything I would say that the Direct Box sounded just as good if not more clear than going through the Joyo but, I can't judge anything without being in the room and hearing what your hearing.
Dan: talks about this not being loud enough to gig with me: hasn't worried about being loud enough for years, in fact you could say I've been gigging... sansamp edit: stays till the end. yeah, lack of XLR kind of is a deal breaker :(
So the right way to use it, is to throw out the window what it's supposed to do, and do something else with it. Mmh. It's a practice amp. That means practicing at home, typically for most of us who can't afford or don't want to turn their place into a studio. Needing an actual amp makes it useless, if that's really what it's all about. That was supposed to be a bonus.
Are you really a bass player, or do you only know that one set of riffs? I've heard you demo basses and amps at least 5 times, and it's always the same "tune".
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This is a great demo for this amp and an ingenious way to record both tones examples at one time and ping-pong them within the course of a single run demo. This thing kicks ass!
I am a few week late seeing this one Dan but loving the bass content. Def added that bass amp to my wish list. Thanks man
You could use the Batamp’s effects loop send to the return of a larger wattage amp to use the BantAmp as a preamp. A lot of guys with the Micro Terror heads use them that way to get a giggable Orange sound from those little suckers.
I will never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get tired of that demo baseline.
You can absolutely do that, or just like I did use the headphone output to push and amp. But either way should work
@@GunsandGuitars true, I wonder if the signal goes through another buffer en route to the headphone jack in order to allow you to control the volume.
If so, that might choke the tone a little. I know that the Micro Terror sounds awesome as is and as a preamp via the loop send, but sounds awful and sizzly through headphone jack.
@@GunsandGuitars The headphone output is made for another load (ohms) and the loop is basicly a line out. You wont break anything by using hp out but chances are it sounds better on the send :)
Is this amp safe to play without speaker connected?
Great review Dan! I agree I think a XLR would make a lot more sense! Hopefully one day I can order a bass from you! Especially with that one sik headstock you make where the tuners are inside the headstock!
Awesome demo, Dan. 😎🤘🏻🎸 this amp sounds pretty cool. I do dig the joyo guitar amps like the vivo(which is my most favorite since I’m a Huge peavey guitar amp fan) and the zombie. And I did wonder if they’ll make a bass amp. And it really does deliver some great tones. this is a pretty cool sounding bass amp.
The crazy thing is that your bass itself is badass adding the Joyo is just a bonus to your bass sound.
The odd thing here is that I didn't really notice the difference going from the DI sound to the Bantamp, but as soon as it switched back there was that instant impression of 'it's missing something'.
If you listen on some high quality headphones you’ll hear a ton more difference. Fat bottom end, warm mid range, and top end bite.
@@GunsandGuitars agreed! Instant difference when it switched. Sounding good, and that bass is no slouch either! Well done!
Great review .... as you say, I've seen mixed reviews on the Joyo Badass, but having it demonstrated with an actual bass guitarvreally helps. It's now on the "things to buy" list :)
Slight aside, you do some pretty cool riffs in your demos ... any chance you could transcribe some ?
I've been trying to convince fellow low enders how amazing this little beauty is. I haven't gigged it but I have rehearsed with it with a full band with two 8ohm cabs and it astonished me!
It's an amazing little piece of kit.
That bass guitar is stunning - tone AND looks!
Thanks for sharing, checked out a couple of other videos on this little bad boy. I just purchased a Focusrite scarlet solo. I mainly got that for audio interface for bass lessons via zoom. Im thinking of maybe plugging my bass into this and then out to the instrument input on the focusrite for my lessons maybe. May give my spector bass some kick. Could probably use for headphone practice or tiny gigs when I get good enough. LOL Peace bro that was awesome.
This is a separate question for you. I watch you as well as Trogley and his long haired compatriot but I also look at other you tubers that actually build. My question for you is there any videos you did that covers grain fill and how to make that pop on a maple top whether it's spalted quilted or birdseye. I like to watch you because you tend to get to the subject at hand quicker than some of the others.
Hi, this is a good video, what kind of bass are you playin' in it?
It actually can keep up with a band if the venue has a PA to hook into by using either :
A.) A passthru DI box in the FX loop so you can use the amp and whatever cab you have as a monitor on stage, and send to FOH, or use the DI box to patch into a larger XLR input power amp
B.) a DI plugged with a cable coming straight out of the headphone jack to go straight to FOH or a larger power amp on stage.
C.) Likewise, you can get a small PA setup for reinforcement/monitoring, and if you have enough inputs, you can run 2 guitars and a bass with vox, and then send that to FOH anyway.
That last option also allows you to even play gigs with no PA, since at that point you have your own, or if you can do house parties/concerts in your local park/private bookings, if that's your thing.
Thanks for your video. So how or what's the best way to run this Joyo BamTamp bass amp as a pre amp into another bass combo amp?
But what is the Dan Thompson way of using it?
Also I think the Headphone output probably will have an IR/speaker emulation on it to not sound so harsh, right?
So, if that would be the case, and you want the untainted preamp experience, you would have to use the FX loop out into the interface. With that it would be interesting to see where in the line the compression and gain sit (before or after the FX loop).
Great video! Subscribed! Just a question, I ordered mine and I will be receiving it today. I was thinking to connect the head to an Orange Crush 50 combo amp via the effects send from the Joyo to the effects return of the Orange. Why did you connected the Joyo via the headphone jack and not the effects send? I know you build yourself guitars, cabinets, etc. You know more than me, that's a fact, I want to understand why (and yes, I will connect via headphones, but If you could please explain I would be very grateful). Thanks!! Cheers from Argentina!
Connected the badass via effects send to my scarlet 2i2. there was a high pitch chirping noise. Then I connected via headphone jack, no noise. In the case of my copy of the amp it's much better through the headphone jack
Bit late now, but I have the Jackman (JCM 800 clone) and I run that out the fx loop into my orange crush bass 50 for a Lemmy style marshall distortion tone for my bass. It works an absolute treat
So, I've been using my Wangs VT-10 guitar combo/amp to practice my Bass playing at home, and then playing along with a friend of mine on Twitch. Surprisingly the little Wangs sounds really good with either my Guitar (Hagstrom Swede P-90's) and my Bass (Orange O-Bass). I want to build a dual 10" isobaric cabinet (Similar to the Orange cabs but without the cost) and I'm wondering will this little Joyo Badass "Demon" drive the cab sufficiently for home practice and even some garage style fun with friends? I know you should always double the power of the bass to the guitars because bass frequency is low and the disperses faster than higher frequencies, in fact a friend likes using my little VT-10 when we get together and I use an old Crate Bass combo/amp I have kicking around, but in my opinion the tubes in the Wangs sound so good on either Bass or Guitar that I want a tube head for my next amp. Would you recommend this for my application and needs?
Any plans to check out a Pit Bull multiscale kit guitar? They’re fresh in stock after over 2 years.
I love those little bantam well for guitar played on the zombie they are just cool little amps
That sounds really good Dan. Now I just need to build a bass, learn to play bass, and get the amp!
Yes to all those things!
Time to get started my man!! The world needs more bottom end men!! Lol
@@bassimprovjams3772 I've just finished my last kit (a StewMac body built acoustic. Maybe in the new few weeks I'll get started on the bass. I actually do have a kit ready to go.
@@MrDaveKC awesome man!!! There’s some great kits out there! Low end lobster has done a few great kits for us he did a beautiful Fender Pbass! Probably the nicest P I have ever seen IMO hope it turns out killer !!
@@bassimprovjams3772 I got the Leo Jaymz kit from Amazon. So far, it looks good, but I had to finish other things first.
Hi!. Please, could you try JOYO BanTamP Badass with a guitar and could you do a review about how does it works?. Thanks a lot!
I think the best way to use one of these...is to use 2 of these. Biamp. 2 of these in simulated stereo, with something like the Tech21 DI2112 to split the signal.
Would the way you are recording the bass for this be considered parallel compression?
look cool , but as you say for gig , will be better serve with tc electronic for compact rig , , i use a small guitar frontman with 2x10 cab to practice bass , and 300w berhinger , and have also a 200w pevey rack amp , to play with band ,
I've got a friend who builds boutique amps and goes by the name Boone Docks amps. I've only heard one since he was in the band but if it's any indication of his work it sounded great. I'm not familiar with BanTamp but if it works. I guess you'd need to have a rig with an E drum setup so your not over powered. Loud drummers and lead guitarist seem to be the biggest issue with bands. Hey are you doing background music for Seinfeld? Lmao.
The link in the description takes me to a VOX amPlug2 AP2-BS Bass Guitar Headphone Amplifier page.
I wondered if they were ever going to make a Bass version
Would you say this is any good for metal bass tones?
Hey Dan I've been wanting to restore my Stratocaster but i was wonder if you would recommend any guitar necks because mine is too much work.
Check out AllParts or Mighty Mite. Fender licensed/quality for like half the price.
So it's made to be used whithout a speaker load?
kooL could i use my 8 string guitar with it? and my 6 string is tuned to G1.
Does it have a bills in speaker or do I need a speaker cab
That is a really cool bass. I'll never be able to afford one, but really cool nonetheless.
Is the tube actually being used as a tube? The original single channel Bantamps used a starved plate design and the tubes were just lit up with an LED so you could power the entire thing with a battery but this looks like it needs much more power to work.
I like bass with distortion. Lemmy. Cliff Burton, Jason Newstead, etc.
I have a 10inch celestion 200w bass cab that i (surprisingly) use as a guitar cab.. will this amp push the bass cab beyond "bedroom levels"?. I'm talking about a coffee shop gig with a controlled drummer
For guitar? Definitely. You’re not using the wattage to push low frequencies like on bass. With bass all the power is sucked into making deep low end frequencies, below 120 hz
Can i use it as a trip bass amp?
Sir may i know the watts of your speaker?
If they came out with a 300 W version, that would be amazing.
Could always mic the cab
I’m glad you mentioned that about the pedal. It didn’t seem very useful to me either.
Boss just announced the Bass Katana amps - one 60W and the other 160W. Wouldn't mind seeing you try those out for size.
I'm not a bass player. I only play guitar. Maybe my ears aren't all that great anymore from cranking my half stack up but, I really couldn't hear any difference from your "Direct Box" vs the Joyo?? If anything I would say that the Direct Box sounded just as good if not more clear than going through the Joyo but, I can't judge anything without being in the room and hearing what your hearing.
Make sure you’re wearing high quality headphones, you’ll hear a massive difference.
Umm.... Yeah.... Not so much.......@@GunsandGuitars .........
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What amp does it simulate?
None that I know of, but it does kinda sound SVT-ish
But does it doom
Dan: talks about this not being loud enough to gig with
me: hasn't worried about being loud enough for years, in fact you could say I've been gigging... sansamp
edit: stays till the end. yeah, lack of XLR kind of is a deal breaker :(
Remove the send and return. Replace with an XLR DI out.
Get rid of the compressor. Make the switch for a drive channel.
needs xlr out
So the right way to use it, is to throw out the window what it's supposed to do, and do something else with it.
Mmh.
It's a practice amp. That means practicing at home, typically for most of us who can't afford or don't want to turn their place into a studio. Needing an actual amp makes it useless, if that's really what it's all about. That was supposed to be a bonus.
Бад Ас, как пиво?
Короче, название очень странное.
To those trying to use this as a guitar amp...DUH!!!
You may as well play thru a guitar amp cuz I heard NO bass,only treble would have like hearing it thru a speaker.
Are you really a bass player, or do you only know that one set of riffs? I've heard you demo basses and amps at least 5 times, and it's always the same "tune".
I want to talk about guitars but I have to virtue signal about guns while I'm doing it. What a strange video.
Why do all bassists use slap sh!t during their reviews?!
why wouldnt you?
really tho, its guaranteed some folk watching a bass review are slap happy.