You know what would be cool? If Orange did something like this, like with the micro terror series. Like what if they did something like a 20-50 watt Micro Terror bass? That would be awesome!
Problem is that 20W is enough loud for guitars, but not for bass. 20-50W for bass is more like home practice-small gig size, with one 8-10 inch speaker. I've also had some questions about absence of such low output heads for bass, but now it's 100% understandable. ASAIR, the least output of solid-state bass heads is around 100W, which is good to use with 1x12 or 2x10 cab. Actually, I like the concept of Ampeg's Micro Stack - it seems kinda flexible.
@@MrFedoss as someone who bought the ampeg micro stack, stay away. It's great in theory but the build quality is terrible. The speakers in the cab needed replacing in a year and the head blew out not long after. You're better off with a Rumble.
@@MrFedoss I gig bass using my guitar amp in clubs. 60w 1x12 combo and I'm only using about half of the volume. Even if I have no DI I can cover the ground I need so maybe the minimum is somewhere around 30w?
just a little detail but a "graphic" EQ means it is a series of sliders that form a graph like pattern that represents the curve of the EQ. This IS a 3 band EQ but NOT a graphic EQ because it is knobs not sliders.
Thanks for the info. I always thought graphic meant that it had blinking lights (the ones that are lined up in a row, that have like four or five green, then a few yellow, and then a few more red)
I love how you're demonstrating it with a wide price range of basses. The ricky Harley Benton is probably one of the cheapest yet most amazing basses you can buy
I am very happy with mine. I run it through all sorts of cabs and dead combo amps. No, it is NOT real powerful but for small venues like local bars and practice it does the job. As with any head amp I strongly urge users to only use quality speaker cable hooking up the cabinet. The compression switch is a big help getting the "muddiness" out of 5 string basses.
For everyone wondering if 50 watts is enough power. Hundreds of songs were performed live and recorded with the Ampeg Portaflex B 15's which were 50 watts.
I think at that price point, it would be a great home practice bass (especially with the bluetooth) and possibly like a coffee house gigging amp. Anything bigger than that with a full drumkit thrown in, and it's just not going to be able to keep up. The price point is an interesting thing. The best comparison would be the Rumble 40. So it's $190 vs $250. It's 10w more than the Rumble, but you then have to get a speaker cab for it and it still lacks the XLR out that the Rumble 40 has. I think if this had an XLR out, it would be a home run of a small amp to carry with you to hook into the PA system at a gig and use. My standard pedalboard has XLR out from my pre-amp, so I could absolutely see an option to use this purely to push an on stage monitor while running your main sound to front of house. So all in all, it's not a must have product, but I could definitely make arguments for where it would be useful.
@@patrickhunter They're definitely making a play for that economy price point, which is a good thing. Not everyone can afford an Ampeg SVT head with an 8x10. And the tube pre-amp on this is definitely a good selling point.
Man, I love the sound of this. This would be perfect for a small jam session. Out of the many shows I’ve played only 3 or 4 sound guys were like “if you wanna mic and run DI, we can do that!” Most are just, RUN DI ONLY!!!!!!
Yeah, biggest miss in this thing is lacking an XLR out. Anything with a drummer and a bunch of guitar players is likely happening through a PA system, so XLR could just go to the mixer and we good to go, regardless of 50W power rating.
@@skyleranderson1984 you can, but then you need a cab, a mic and a setup that won't get a lot of bleed from other stuff. For a setup that is about being portable, that's kinda the opposite. It really should have an XLR out.
@@EversonBernardes to be fair, you would need a cab even with an XLR. You can just hook it up for a torpedo or something if you want a compact DI rig, same as any head
@@chriswakfer4473 Not really. The way I usually play is preamp to FoH through XLR and I get a band mix in my IEMs. No bass cab anywhere. Wouldn't play any other way, these days. Not super into being exposed to obnoxiously loud drumming.
Great review, sold me on this little beauty quite a while ago. Been waiting ages to get one and finally got one today. So I now have my own little green goblin running from speaker out to my Captor 8 into Neve pre. Sounds as I had hoped, tons more punch and clarity with humungous bottom end. Way more convincing than a DI alone. Thanks, happy camper!
So I bought 4 of these Bantamps for rehearsals with in-ears. I bought each player 3 guitarists and a bass player the Bantamp that was closest to their gig amp. I bought the, Bass amp, Zombie 2, JAckMan 2 and the Meteor 2. I pay a Dual Rec (Zombie), the other 2 guitarists play a Orange rockerverb (Meteor) and a Marshall DSL (Jackman). I basically put this with a cheap Sonicake pedal called the Sonic IR and took a Impulse of each players gig cabinet. Its so close that when we go to shows we put the Joyo heads and IR pedals in a duffle bag and take them as backups which we have had to use a couple times. When we have had to use the Joyo amps we just go right into the PA from the IR pedal but each player gets to keep their pedal rig. For $150-175 + $19 for the Sonicake pedal per person its a no brainer to have these for rehearsals even if you never plan to gig with them.
These are cool little amps and handy to have around for practicing. But when you consider the fact that these sell for roughly 155 bucks, use an external power supply, with no DI out. If you're looking for something small and compact, go for the Warwick gnome which is 100 watts and actually has the power supply built into the head so all you have is your IEC power cord. Also you get a true balanced DI out and sells for only $50 more. You'd probably be better off going for that. Unlike the Joyo, that little gnome with a hundred Watts of power through a decent speaker cabinet is enough to get you where you could gig with it if needed.
I think you were a lot more charitable on this thing than I was lol. I still think it's in an awkward spot. Having bluetooth is awesome, but everything else it does is done better or cheaper by other amps. There are cheaper more portable options for practice like the Zoom B14, the 4ohm cab thing makes it really underpowered for most gigs, and the lack of DI is a hassle for sound engineers. I just don't know who this amp is for. For the 6 months or so that I've had it, I haven't even plugged into it, and I have it set up ready to go all the time. It's just never my first pick for practice when I have my computer and an audio interface.
The Bantamps headphone Jack can be used as a DI. I have good results using it to record, with the Zombie and Blue Jay, and the cab emulation isn’t too shabby !!
That little amp looks like you could keep it on your pedal board. In fact having a rig like that with just the speaker cable going to the cabinet(s) and having such ready access to the tone controls while being able to adjust your effects at the same time would make this a pretty cool gigging amp if only it had a DI onboard for front of house. You could always add in something like a H&K Redbox to add that function but that puts the price up another £100 and is another device to rig up, I feel that there will be competitors that include such a function in the basic amp.
I’ve been a part time sound guy for years and just recently took up bass. I’ve just got one of these and it sounds great in my headphones (Sony 7506’s), still working on getting a cab for it. DI isn’t a problem, I looped the fx send/return through a direct box and you’ve got a post preamp di. Sounds pretty good through a Behringer stage monitor.
I really like, that you don‘t say only positiv facts! Very authentic, you are great. I really agree to your opinion: cool for practicing at home but without a di out and the 50 watts nothing for me. But thanks to @Joyo for inventing this thing!
The don't use 8Ω as the 'preferred' speaker impedance because they would then need a more powerful amp to be able to claim 50 watts (which would also need a higher voltage PSU). It's simple physics, to get more watts into an 8Ω cab you need more volts out of the speaker output but the PSU limits the peak to peak voltage of the output (this is a massive oversimplification but it'll do in this context).
Thanks for sharing, just found out about this today. Was looking for mainly a good practice amp that I could use with or without headphones and for skype or zoom bass lesson. This little thing is causing a lot of stir. : )
Use the headphones jack for an output into the mixer or interface. I'll never understand why anyone would buy a tiny practice amp for gigging or live band practice anyway. Or use a mic in front of a cab then crank on the power amplifier/PA. Then it can be as loud as you have power.
I have one of these in the guitar series and it's pretty good and you can't get anything better for the money. Lack of DI here is probably not an issue as this will never be more than a practice amp at home. It should be great for that. The lack of DI out and the power transformer is the reason they can make it in such a small box. Don't have a problem with that transformer on my guitar amp. But would you buy a basshead for home practice? Do people have small cabinets lying around at home? Probably not. I use a TC Electronic combo for my home use and it's not big and a bags a lot more power than this this one. I probably paid twice the money for that combo, but buying this I would also need to buy a cabinet, because as you've said not many people have 4 ohm cabinets. You can tell it's a fine amp, but the guitar series make more sense.
This one would make sense... if it had an XLR out. 50w is plenty if you're going straight into a mixer, and that's what most bass players been doing for a while. For home practice, most of the time I'd be using headphones or straight into an interface (where the XLR would be great too).
also if you have two 8 ohm cabs and run them to the amp in parallel the amp will see 4 ohms and give you your 50w. or wire two 8ohms drivers in parallel in one cab...
The only use I see for this is as backup for a touring bassist. But even at that there are more compact, higher wattage, and feature rich options. I feel that joyo threaded the needle to find a niche of bassist that gas very few people.
I've often heard people say that built-in DI's in amps kind of suck. And at smaller gigs where there was a backline I'm used to there being some bass amp and a seperate DI on top if it to plug in. (And most bass players will have a DI in their bag.) I think the amp-DI's sucking thing is exaggerated or something from the olden days, these opinions and habits could also be very regional of course. And I haven't played thát many gigs. But I can imagine people thinking.... it's not a miss, we'll just use a DI we already have.
Not a bad amp, but for that money you could get an Eden TN226. Which is only a little bit bigger and delivers 225 Watts RMS. It has a DI-Out and has NO fan. Which I really like and which is quite rare with those small amps.
Its cool as a practice amp for sure but then the user would need a cab and there's tons of combos out there that do everything (maybe not bluetooth (great feature)) that this does.
It’s funny you mentioned the DI out. I’ve played well over 100 shows and I’ve only had my cab mic’d a handful of times. Studios will do it sometimes but live…the sound engineer seems to hate mics on bass cabs. I keep a DI in my bass case so I at least know the quality and single chain I’m gonna send. Pedals and a DI make my bass tone not the amp anymore. Most sit in my basement at this point.
Lack of a DI out wouldn't be a deal breaker for me because I've got spare DI boxes that I could connect. A 50w class d amp head is a bit weird though because that's really practice amp territory
I have to say IMHO this little beasty puts out amazing & gritty genuine valve tone for a super low price. So who would it suit? Someone starting out on a shoestring budget who perhaps doesn't want to go loud until they actually learn to play but wants an agressive tone. The person living in a situation with close and testy neighbors. My only concern is the Chinese 12AX7 as they don't have a great rep for reliability. If the specs of that 12 AX is the same as the US specs you could roll it & improve it........maybee? Hell @ that price it might be worth a punt. Its one of the meanest sounding mini/micro I've ever listened to. And nearly the cheapest.
The only thing the Trace Elliot ELF Ultra Compact Bass Amplifier has over the Joyo bantamp badass amp is the wattage ... which is somewhat of a bummer, if Joyo had crammed 50 watts more it could have been small gigable/jammable
DI out was the dealbreaker for me on this one. It would be the perfect home practice and recording amp if I could go straight into my interface and record. Hopefully there’ll be a V2 in the future!
@@FrankOWahl I have the Behringer BDI21 which is killer value for money and does me pretty well. Maybe the DI thing is my subconscious trying to suppress my GAS 😂
@@theyellowcar lol. It's just the addiction to buying and trying gear. I've pretty much settled on my rig. Rememebr, The eyes of a fool are to the ends of the earth. 🌎👀
Some of your comments doesn't make sense. Per exemple, you really love the fact that it's small but you complained about having the power supply external. Anyway, still very interesting. Thanks for your review.
I wanted to buy one of those some time ago but exactly the cons you mentioned kept me from buying it. I don't need a tiny badass amp for my band room or for practising at home, because I already have at least a 4x10 there. SO I don't need to save weight or space ^^ But I need something small and lightweight for gigs and these 25W/50W just don't do it, especially without a direct out. Unfortunately :-(
Can you please do bass covers from rammstein songs.it would be great I'm interested to play bass but confused what to choose guitar or bass ?would be great if you cover the rammstein songs
Do you think it’s better than Roland’s micro mini cube amp they put out? I have the mini cube and it’s ehhh….ok. As long is it has deep Bass tone I’m happy.
Hi really nice video review; thank you! I love the sound of that Dingwall and am wondering about the strings… are those flat wound, chrome, stock, other? And if you have any recommendations on what might compare to that tone on a shorter scale would be appreciated. Ie- I read a bit about that bass after hearing this and understand they make custom strings for their longer scales; possibly that is the velvety goodness I’m hearing more so than the strings-what do you think?
I don’t need one but that feeling like I have to get one is happening again “Wife I’m sorry to have this sickness “ awesome it has a speaker out , my Hartke HD500 doesn’t even have that
I don't think I've ever played through a bass head that isn't 4 ohm at full wattage with half at 8 ohm... Surely that's the point, so you can run 2 cabs at full wattage at 8ohm? Enjoyed the demo non the less, just didn't think that was a fair criticism
How much of a concern is the clipping? Seems the instant the compression is turned on that little butt-puckering warning light starts going crazy. How sustainable is that long term?
Theres something about real physical gear that I cant help wanting even thou Im quite aware my plugins and monitors are all I'll ever need from now on... On the other hand once you go into the plugin world GAS is slowly being eradicated.
This is just an aesthetics moan so not that important, but why make it a garish green! Most other lunchbox amps I can think of look kinda classy, something you wouldn't mind sitting on your desk all the time, but this just looks like a fisher-price toy amp. I get it's cheap so won't have the best knobs etc, but don't make them neon as well! They must have had a ton of spare green plastic laying around.
I think this is designed for a non-professional bass player... like targeted for casual home use. Unfortunately most of the bassists in the world are professionals, so its target audience is really limited, doesn't matter how good it sounds or how well it's made!!
You know what would be cool? If Orange did something like this, like with the micro terror series. Like what if they did something like a 20-50 watt Micro Terror bass? That would be awesome!
Problem is that 20W is enough loud for guitars, but not for bass. 20-50W for bass is more like home practice-small gig size, with one 8-10 inch speaker. I've also had some questions about absence of such low output heads for bass, but now it's 100% understandable. ASAIR, the least output of solid-state bass heads is around 100W, which is good to use with 1x12 or 2x10 cab. Actually, I like the concept of Ampeg's Micro Stack - it seems kinda flexible.
@@MrFedoss as someone who bought the ampeg micro stack, stay away. It's great in theory but the build quality is terrible. The speakers in the cab needed replacing in a year and the head blew out not long after. You're better off with a Rumble.
@@rebelwithoutaclue7667 Whoa, thanks for feedback. Yep, I own a Rumble 30 V2 and can say that it's great value.
@@MrFedoss I gig bass using my guitar amp in clubs. 60w 1x12 combo and I'm only using about half of the volume. Even if I have no DI I can cover the ground I need so maybe the minimum is somewhere around 30w?
just a little detail but a "graphic" EQ means it is a series of sliders that form a graph like pattern that represents the curve of the EQ. This IS a 3 band EQ but NOT a graphic EQ because it is knobs not sliders.
Thanks for the info. I always thought graphic meant that it had blinking lights (the ones that are lined up in a row, that have like four or five green, then a few yellow, and then a few more red)
It's about time we had some of these for bass. There's plenty of them for guitar.
I love the Peavey T45, sounds killer
Can we all agree that Patrick makes just about anything sound good?
I think that it uses an AC adaptor because it helps keep the "little lunchbox" little. No internal transformer for the AC needed.
So it's not that impressive or is it? TC electronic has double the power, half the size and internal power supply.
Modern power supply's don't need a transformer.
@@rafaelcatarino8372 tc electronic/behringer usually advertise 2-3× actual watts
I love how you're demonstrating it with a wide price range of basses. The ricky Harley Benton is probably one of the cheapest yet most amazing basses you can buy
I am very happy with mine. I run it through all sorts of cabs and dead combo amps. No, it is NOT real powerful but for small venues like local bars and practice it does the job. As with any head amp I strongly urge users to only use quality speaker cable hooking up the cabinet. The compression switch is a big help getting the "muddiness" out of 5 string basses.
For everyone wondering if 50 watts is enough power. Hundreds of songs were performed live and recorded with the Ampeg Portaflex B 15's which were 50 watts.
I think at that price point, it would be a great home practice bass (especially with the bluetooth) and possibly like a coffee house gigging amp. Anything bigger than that with a full drumkit thrown in, and it's just not going to be able to keep up.
The price point is an interesting thing. The best comparison would be the Rumble 40. So it's $190 vs $250. It's 10w more than the Rumble, but you then have to get a speaker cab for it and it still lacks the XLR out that the Rumble 40 has. I think if this had an XLR out, it would be a home run of a small amp to carry with you to hook into the PA system at a gig and use.
My standard pedalboard has XLR out from my pre-amp, so I could absolutely see an option to use this purely to push an on stage monitor while running your main sound to front of house. So all in all, it's not a must have product, but I could definitely make arguments for where it would be useful.
You make some really great points, man. I'm really excited to see Joyo's next bass amp and see what they add overall!
@@patrickhunter They're definitely making a play for that economy price point, which is a good thing. Not everyone can afford an Ampeg SVT head with an 8x10. And the tube pre-amp on this is definitely a good selling point.
I want to get one and send it through a guitar cab w v30s
@@dchauser4 I got an American svt 3 pro with 410 😀 I think I got super lucky with both buys though, only cost me $900 in total from different sellers.
Man, I love the sound of this. This would be perfect for a small jam session. Out of the many shows I’ve played only 3 or 4 sound guys were like “if you wanna mic and run DI, we can do that!” Most are just, RUN DI ONLY!!!!!!
appreciation comment for you using the Peavey T40!! such an amazing bass
Yeah, biggest miss in this thing is lacking an XLR out. Anything with a drummer and a bunch of guitar players is likely happening through a PA system, so XLR could just go to the mixer and we good to go, regardless of 50W power rating.
drill a hole and put in a jack
I mean cant you just mic the cab too?
@@skyleranderson1984 you can, but then you need a cab, a mic and a setup that won't get a lot of bleed from other stuff.
For a setup that is about being portable, that's kinda the opposite. It really should have an XLR out.
@@EversonBernardes to be fair, you would need a cab even with an XLR. You can just hook it up for a torpedo or something if you want a compact DI rig, same as any head
@@chriswakfer4473 Not really. The way I usually play is preamp to FoH through XLR and I get a band mix in my IEMs. No bass cab anywhere.
Wouldn't play any other way, these days. Not super into being exposed to obnoxiously loud drumming.
Great review, sold me on this little beauty quite a while ago. Been waiting ages to get one and finally got one today. So I now have my own little green goblin running from speaker out to my Captor 8 into Neve pre. Sounds as I had hoped, tons more punch and clarity with humungous bottom end. Way more convincing than a DI alone. Thanks, happy camper!
So I bought 4 of these Bantamps for rehearsals with in-ears. I bought each player 3 guitarists and a bass player the Bantamp that was closest to their gig amp. I bought the, Bass amp, Zombie 2, JAckMan 2 and the Meteor 2. I pay a Dual Rec (Zombie), the other 2 guitarists play a Orange rockerverb (Meteor) and a Marshall DSL (Jackman). I basically put this with a cheap Sonicake pedal called the Sonic IR and took a Impulse of each players gig cabinet. Its so close that when we go to shows we put the Joyo heads and IR pedals in a duffle bag and take them as backups which we have had to use a couple times. When we have had to use the Joyo amps we just go right into the PA from the IR pedal but each player gets to keep their pedal rig. For $150-175 + $19 for the Sonicake pedal per person its a no brainer to have these for rehearsals even if you never plan to gig with them.
Ive been looking at one of these for a while. Glad to finally see a decent quality review!
Wow. Imagine this and a cabinet for smooth jamming, rehearsal and whatever. Easy to carry, easy to fit anywhere.
These are cool little amps and handy to have around for practicing. But when you consider the fact that these sell for roughly 155 bucks, use an external power supply, with no DI out.
If you're looking for something small and compact, go for the Warwick gnome which is 100 watts and actually has the power supply built into the head so all you have is your IEC power cord. Also you get a true balanced DI out and sells for only $50 more. You'd probably be better off going for that.
Unlike the Joyo, that little gnome with a hundred Watts of power through a decent speaker cabinet is enough to get you where you could gig with it if needed.
Sounds nice and THICC
I think you were a lot more charitable on this thing than I was lol. I still think it's in an awkward spot. Having bluetooth is awesome, but everything else it does is done better or cheaper by other amps. There are cheaper more portable options for practice like the Zoom B14, the 4ohm cab thing makes it really underpowered for most gigs, and the lack of DI is a hassle for sound engineers. I just don't know who this amp is for. For the 6 months or so that I've had it, I haven't even plugged into it, and I have it set up ready to go all the time. It's just never my first pick for practice when I have my computer and an audio interface.
What other amps are you referring to? Im interested
The Bantamps headphone Jack can be used as a DI. I have good results using it to record, with the Zombie and Blue Jay, and the cab emulation isn’t too shabby !!
That little amp looks like you could keep it on your pedal board. In fact having a rig like that with just the speaker cable going to the cabinet(s) and having such ready access to the tone controls while being able to adjust your effects at the same time would make this a pretty cool gigging amp if only it had a DI onboard for front of house. You could always add in something like a H&K Redbox to add that function but that puts the price up another £100 and is another device to rig up, I feel that there will be competitors that include such a function in the basic amp.
I’ve been a part time sound guy for years and just recently took up bass. I’ve just got one of these and it sounds great in my headphones (Sony 7506’s), still working on getting a cab for it. DI isn’t a problem, I looped the fx send/return through a direct box and you’ve got a post preamp di. Sounds pretty good through a Behringer stage monitor.
Totally agree with the ohm load and the “no di out”… and the power cord…
Perfect lil amp for when I want to play away in the campervan, thanks for the review 🙂
I bought one of these last month... totally loving it.
I like my PJ NanoX4. Yes, it costs more but at least you have the 4" speaker as table top combo amp.
I really like, that you don‘t say only positiv facts! Very authentic, you are great.
I really agree to your opinion: cool for practicing at home but without a di out and the 50 watts nothing for me. But thanks to @Joyo for inventing this thing!
The don't use 8Ω as the 'preferred' speaker impedance because they would then need a more powerful amp to be able to claim 50 watts (which would also need a higher voltage PSU). It's simple physics, to get more watts into an 8Ω cab you need more volts out of the speaker output but the PSU limits the peak to peak voltage of the output (this is a massive oversimplification but it'll do in this context).
Cool lil practice amp!
great video Mr. Patrick, what a tone machine
Thanks for sharing, just found out about this today. Was looking for mainly a good practice amp that I could use with or without headphones and for skype or zoom bass lesson. This little thing is causing a lot of stir. : )
This amp has swears in the name! My stars!
Use the headphones jack for an output into the mixer or interface.
I'll never understand why anyone would buy a tiny practice amp for gigging or live band practice anyway.
Or use a mic in front of a cab then crank on the power amplifier/PA.
Then it can be as loud as you have power.
Totally going to buy one for my bass!!! 💀
wow, REALLY your excited.
Im eyeballing "the Green Machine" behind you. The #1. Numero Uno. Damn it sounds good.
I feel that is would be great for home recording with a torpedo captor, which is what I’ve been thinking for my use of it
I really like that thing.
Thanks for the [great] review.
Sounds really good. If you don't need line out. Mic'd up with a good 12 yeah! 👍
I have one of these in the guitar series and it's pretty good and you can't get anything better for the money. Lack of DI here is probably not an issue as this will never be more than a practice amp at home. It should be great for that. The lack of DI out and the power transformer is the reason they can make it in such a small box. Don't have a problem with that transformer on my guitar amp. But would you buy a basshead for home practice? Do people have small cabinets lying around at home? Probably not. I use a TC Electronic combo for my home use and it's not big and a bags a lot more power than this this one. I probably paid twice the money for that combo, but buying this I would also need to buy a cabinet, because as you've said not many people have 4 ohm cabinets. You can tell it's a fine amp, but the guitar series make more sense.
This one would make sense... if it had an XLR out. 50w is plenty if you're going straight into a mixer, and that's what most bass players been doing for a while.
For home practice, most of the time I'd be using headphones or straight into an interface (where the XLR would be great too).
also if you have two 8 ohm cabs and run them to the amp in parallel the amp will see 4 ohms and give you your 50w. or wire two 8ohms drivers in parallel in one cab...
Nice amp! What was really badass for me is that Peavey T40. I just love it!❤
Yeah maybe the send can be used for a direct. But, it's also 24 volt DC, so you can probably power it with a 20 volt computer battery.
Perefct for gigs. Use your SansAmp Bass driver for your DI needs. Sorted!
for that kind of money I can get TC Electronic BAM 200 or Warwick Gnome (which I have) and those are much more ready to rock!
The gnome is a killer amp. I bought one and I am stoked with it.
@@crustyjusty7 it really is, I'm very happy with it.
That Peavey is a tone monster 😍
Thought the same thing as soon as he started playing it. Took a second to recognize it.
Love my Bantamps.The headphone jack can be used as a direct out…
Peavey T40 Rules
It's important to get that head bob in there, for some reason it just sounds better when you bob.
The only use I see for this is as backup for a touring bassist. But even at that there are more compact, higher wattage, and feature rich options. I feel that joyo threaded the needle to find a niche of bassist that gas very few people.
I've often heard people say that built-in DI's in amps kind of suck. And at smaller gigs where there was a backline I'm used to there being some bass amp and a seperate DI on top if it to plug in. (And most bass players will have a DI in their bag.)
I think the amp-DI's sucking thing is exaggerated or something from the olden days, these opinions and habits could also be very regional of course. And I haven't played thát many gigs. But I can imagine people thinking.... it's not a miss, we'll just use a DI we already have.
No DI and no aux input makes this a very limited amp . Who would use this over other similar amps with those two features ?
The power adapter is surely to limit the heat in that very compact amp, i agree it looks flimsy as hell though
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Not a bad amp, but for that money you could get an Eden TN226. Which is only a little bit bigger and delivers 225 Watts RMS. It has a DI-Out and has NO fan. Which I really like and which is quite rare with those small amps.
Its cool as a practice amp for sure but then the user would need a cab and there's tons of combos out there that do everything (maybe not bluetooth (great feature)) that this does.
It’s funny you mentioned the DI out. I’ve played well over 100 shows and I’ve only had my cab mic’d a handful of times. Studios will do it sometimes but live…the sound engineer seems to hate mics on bass cabs. I keep a DI in my bass case so I at least know the quality and single chain I’m gonna send. Pedals and a DI make my bass tone not the amp anymore. Most sit in my basement at this point.
Lack of a DI out wouldn't be a deal breaker for me because I've got spare DI boxes that I could connect. A 50w class d amp head is a bit weird though because that's really practice amp territory
It's probably a good practice alone bass amp. 🗨️☝️🤓
it sounds okay. a Fender Rumble may be a better bet though.
Power adapter is like that to keep the size small.
I have to say IMHO this little beasty puts out amazing & gritty genuine valve tone for a super low price. So who would it suit? Someone starting out on a shoestring budget who perhaps doesn't want to go loud until they actually learn to play but wants an agressive tone. The person living in a situation with close and testy neighbors. My only concern is the Chinese 12AX7 as they don't have a great rep for reliability.
If the specs of that 12 AX is the same as the US specs you could roll it & improve it........maybee? Hell @ that price it might be worth a punt. Its one of the meanest sounding mini/micro I've ever listened to. And nearly the cheapest.
Question, what for?
The only thing the Trace Elliot ELF Ultra Compact Bass Amplifier has over the Joyo bantamp badass amp is the wattage ... which is somewhat of a bummer, if Joyo had crammed 50 watts more it could have been small gigable/jammable
Sweet White Pony shirt!
Like it can I use this for keyboard? Thanks
DI would make it giggable.
DI out was the dealbreaker for me on this one. It would be the perfect home practice and recording amp if I could go straight into my interface and record. Hopefully there’ll be a V2 in the future!
Get a bass driver DI from tech 21.
@@FrankOWahl I have the Behringer BDI21 which is killer value for money and does me pretty well. Maybe the DI thing is my subconscious trying to suppress my GAS 😂
@@theyellowcar lol. It's just the addiction to buying and trying gear. I've pretty much settled on my rig. Rememebr, The eyes of a fool are to the ends of the earth. 🌎👀
Some of your comments doesn't make sense. Per exemple, you really love the fact that it's small but you complained about having the power supply external. Anyway, still very interesting. Thanks for your review.
Hello!
Did anyone compared this over with the boss katana mini? ( for a bass guitar) ?
I wanted to buy one of those some time ago but exactly the cons you mentioned kept me from buying it. I don't need a tiny badass amp for my band room or for practising at home, because I already have at least a 4x10 there. SO I don't need to save weight or space ^^ But I need something small and lightweight for gigs and these 25W/50W just don't do it, especially without a direct out. Unfortunately :-(
Can you please do bass covers from rammstein songs.it would be great I'm interested to play bass but confused what to choose guitar or bass ?would be great if you cover the rammstein songs
For gigging, couldn't you just use the DI from a sansamp and have in ears?
I want a small power amp for my tech 21 Sansamp BASS driver DI....
Do you think it’s better than Roland’s micro mini cube amp they put out? I have the mini cube and it’s ehhh….ok. As long is it has deep Bass tone I’m happy.
Hi really nice video review; thank you! I love the sound of that Dingwall and am wondering about the strings… are those flat wound, chrome, stock, other? And if you have any recommendations on what might compare to that tone on a shorter scale would be appreciated. Ie- I read a bit about that bass after hearing this and understand they make custom strings for their longer scales; possibly that is the velvety goodness I’m hearing more so than the strings-what do you think?
I don’t need one but that feeling like I have to get one is happening again “Wife I’m sorry to have this sickness “ awesome it has a speaker out , my Hartke HD500 doesn’t even have that
4:22 I momentarily lost some synapses. That's a P-bass neck on a J-bass body. You beautiful monster you!
What is a good 4 ohm amp cabinet to use with that thing?
I don't think I've ever played through a bass head that isn't 4 ohm at full wattage with half at 8 ohm... Surely that's the point, so you can run 2 cabs at full wattage at 8ohm? Enjoyed the demo non the less, just didn't think that was a fair criticism
How much of a concern is the clipping? Seems the instant the compression is turned on that little butt-puckering warning light starts going crazy. How sustainable is that long term?
Sucks that they didn’t add a DI output
Patrick, call me crazy, but I think you may have a mild obsession with drum intros with crashy open hi-hats. I could be projecting though...
I wonder if you can connect it to headphones without using a cab?
Sure can!
It could be a good studio solution if it had a di, but at this point just buy a trace Elliott elf
Is there a larger version
Theres something about real physical gear that I cant help wanting even thou Im quite aware my plugins and monitors are all I'll ever need from now on... On the other hand once you go into the plugin world GAS is slowly being eradicated.
What's the bass tabs
This is just an aesthetics moan so not that important, but why make it a garish green! Most other lunchbox amps I can think of look kinda classy, something you wouldn't mind sitting on your desk all the time, but this just looks like a fisher-price toy amp. I get it's cheap so won't have the best knobs etc, but don't make them neon as well! They must have had a ton of spare green plastic laying around.
Have you seen all their other amps? They all have colors and I think this green is great...
This is only good for anyone that doesn't already have a bedroom amp. Let me know when they make one of these giggable 🙂
This Rickemfaker sounds NICE!
"The Little Toaster"
What amp does it simulate?
0:13 My OCD wants to scrub that guitar so badly.
No Di. No Bueno
If you daisy chain to cabs together that will give you 4ohmes
Sounds great! A cheaper alternative would be the TC BAM200.
Gallien Kruegel is smaller than it
If this did have a DI out, it would be an excellent, portable studio tool.
you could run the output through a DI box. Should work just as well without affecting the sound too much
I was interested until you said no direct out.
I think this is designed for a non-professional bass player... like targeted for casual home use.
Unfortunately most of the bassists in the world are professionals, so its target audience is really limited, doesn't matter how good it sounds or how well it's made!!