Duck dying of dehydration could also be related to how in episode 3, he implied that he had rabies. rabies makes you fear water so you can't wash away the infected saliva
Here’s an idea: what if we, the audience, are the council? We are watching them reenact their lives in this show, and by watching them on Channel 4 we are supporting and funding the creators, or paying them.
Yes, we, a collective unconscious, moved the hand of a business case guy puppet and threw literal coin in duck’s face! Come on my guy, a pound is not only (or even not necessarily ) metaphorical, it’s literal inside the show’s world. Rick and Morty deals with and jokes about this idea though, that audience is the overlord. And some other show, though I can’t quite put my finger on it…
I remember watching a 3 part series on UA-cam called the trauma theory about the web series. I decided to look at the show and try to play with the idea that this is Leslie processing her trauma Episode 1 is about how Leslie's parents met and her working through her father's death. Episode 2 is about both her grieving for her father and getting a stepdad. Episode 3 is about how she felt out of place within her new step family and later cut ties with the family when she started seeing roy. Episode 4 is about how roy would also make her remove all connections with friends. Episode 5 is about coping with her son's death. And episode 6 is about her coping mechanisms
@matthew flugsted I completely agree with your ideas for what the theme is for each episode. I also watched a three part series from flim tidbits (I am assuming that's who you wanted) about the trauma theory I think It is the theory that makes the most sense for the DHMIS world especially after we see Lesley in the TV series
@@miaatherden4584 that's the one. I also found kind of a hole in my theory. The hole is that what character plays what role changes several times in an episode. In episode 3 Roy is Roy and in 4 Roy is warren, In episode 1 yellow guy is Leslie's dad and in episode 2 yellow guy is Leslie, in episode 2 the stepdad in stain and in episode 3 the stepfather is Ronnie and todnies father, things like that
Do you think the original series is tied to Lesley? She is rather creative, she ran out of time to spend with her son, love should be fairly obvious, and past that I'm not too sure.
I thought that Yellow Guy was like a cyborg replacement for David, hence Leslie going “YOU’RE NOT MY REAL SON” and the fact he runs on batteries, and having duck’s insides removed could be a nod back to the eating healthy youtube show as well?
I had the same thought, and commented the same on the previous video. Maybe Yellow guys body is dead David’s body, which is why we see him having flesh wounds. It’s a dead body re-animated with wires and batteries. - but then why would an electrically powered dead body have a will, and a self consciousness?
@@yishaizukkol3099 In one of the intros Yellow Guy says “And I’m the yellow pig!” So perhaps his favorite toy was some sort of pig stuffed animal or maybe even an actual pig puppet that they had for entertaining babies. Could be where so much of the puppet stuff comes from, trying to surround David with a world of what he loved while alive.
*Yellow Guy/David* and his parents had just moved into a new neighborhood. His mother/Lesley heads out (grocery shopping or something we don't know) The father/Roy is left looking after david. Unfortunately, Roy is a very neglectful father and leaves his young son unattended as he goes to mingle with the new neighbors. Daivd sees a bird and starts chasing it. This causes him to run onto the road where Lesley, who was just coming back home, accidentally runs him over. *Duck* was quite successful in life. He had a good job and enough money to live to comfortably. However, duck had no contact with his family and he had no close friends either. He told himself he didn't need anyone else, that he was fine on his own, but the loneliness only got worse as he got older. Duck had always been a patriot and a big fan of the military, so when the loneliness became to much, Duck signed up for the air force. One day, when he was out serving, his plane malfunctioned. He crashlanded, leaving him stranded alone with no food or water. He eventually died from dehydration. *Red Guy* had never quite fit in with the rest of his family, where showing emotions or coloring outside of the lines was frowned upon. People where expected to get an 9-5 job and settle down, get married and have kids. However, Red Guy didn't want to live that kinda life. This caused him to have quite a rocky relationship with the rest of his family. One day he decides to leave it all behind and start a new life where he was free to do whatever he wanted. So he packs his bags and drives away. He had no real destination in mind, he just wanted to leave. After a long drive his car starts breaking down, he loses control of the vehicle causing him to go off road and into a nearby river. He is unable to get out of the car and drowns. (Sorry if the grammar is shit. English is not my naitve language)
The grammar is great. I have a feeling something else happened to Red Guy, and it wasn't an accident - that is, he didn't seem to be very happy in the little vignettes that hint at what his family and work life were like. I'm getting the feeling he threw himself in a lake and drowned himself, if there is something to this theory at all. I might be wrong about that, though - that does make it worth revisiting Yellow Guys' definition of "family" at 5:33 - "...all die on the same day, in the same style of accident, but in different locations...." That does seem to suggest that the characters all died in accidents, and not just any accidents, but the same style of accidents on the same day, but in different locations. That might suggest that Red Guy died in a car accident that resulting in his drowning, while Yellow Guy died in a car accident in which he was struck chasing a pet into traffic, which in turn suggests that Duck might have also died in a car accident, on the same day, in a different location, leading to dehydration, but we don't have much info to go on to say exactly how that happened... dehydration is an odd sort of death under any circumstances, really, at least in the English sort of setting the series seems to imply for all the characters, so unless the video theory about the plane crash on a desert island is on target, we'll need to look for more clues about Green Guy. Interestingly, Red Guy in "Transportation" seems to be determined to drive the car, but doesn't know how to operate it - Duck has to tell him "Green means go!", to start the old-fashioned car with an out-of-place start button (with the equally anachronistic cassette-tape player and digital entertainment system being worth noting here, too: that whole sequence in the car is strange, even by this show's strange standards!) It's fair, I think, to wonder if Red Guy really knew how to drive at all, or whether Red Guy was at least in any condition to be driving - perhaps driving drunk, into a lake? (Just a wild guess.) Assuming that the three characters died on the same day in different locations, how far apart are these different locations? It is curious that, of all the places that Red Guy might have a strange urge to try to escape to in "Transportation", he just happens to choose the town where it seems Yellow Guy died... with Duck's hypothetical death by dehydration-and-car-accident being somewhat mysterious compared to the others, this might suggest the characters died on the same day in the same town, but in different car accidents. It's notable that the voiceover - from LE5L3Y - makes a point of asking the policeman about crimes, confirming with him that there are no crimes to investigate. I think we can take the officer's word for it that there were no crimes to report, and this seems to suggest the town to be a quiet place where nothing really happens, until suddenly there were three different accidents, if this line of thinking is on the right track. And if the characters all died on the same day, what day might that be? The series might have hinted at that date all along: June 19, 1955.... Which seems to match up curiously well with the glimpses we catch of Duck and Yellow Guy's past lives: 1955 would be within a short distance of time from the WWII style aircraft Duck is posing in, and might be just about right for the old-fashioned town in what seems to be Yellow Guy's "David" flashback... Of course, it's possible that dying "the same way on the same day in different places" need not mean that the characters all died in car accidents: in much the same way that Red Guy seems to have drowned and Duck seems to have dehydrated, "the same way" seems to be a bit flexible in this sense, so maybe general "Transportation" is the central theme not just to the episode, but also to the deaths... Duck might well have died in a plane crash of dehydration, while Yellow Guy died in a car accident, and Red Guy might have drowned in, say, a boating accident. There's a lot of things to unpack there, and something tells me that answers to some of these questions might still be hidden in the "Transportation" episode in seemingly random remarks or reactions from the characters that take on a new meaning in this context.
What if Roy was a long time worker of Petersen bits and parts? And the old Yellow Guy on the first episode is actually Roy? Distressed by his work accident, the subsequent firing and the fact that nobody cared, he moved to a new neighborhood with his wife, and neglected everything around him.
This theory kinda works with the characters designs as well- David died as a child, so Yellow is about the height of a child and isn’t very mature. He also wears an outfit you’d see more commonly on a young boy about 10 or so Duck died presumably near (salt)water, and was there due to a plane, something that flies- so he’s a bird Red drowned in a lake- I’m not sure if it’s a freshwater species, but there is a red type of algae
Very true! I’m not sure if this was at all intentional, but I also don’t know if half the things that work perfectly in this show are intentional either 😂
This theory is doesn't make much sense since the desings of the characters are directly coming from the web series.and that story is about real life actors alongside with yellow guy getting controled by roy for his product placement and tormenting his son/yellow guy
@@justanothergoth6544 The family thing Yellow said could also apply to Roy- like he died in a drunk driving accident or something. Or maybe Lesley killed him?
if them being dead is represented by them turning into puppets, then leslie's puppet like appearance despite being human implies that she's metaphorically dead.
I really like this puppet = death theory. It explains Lesley's design because it means she is scared, but not dead yet. My guess as to the reason the ID cards only showed Duck as dead is because in this puppet world I guess the death of the human life still lingers, just takes a bit to catch up to you. Meaning that Duck in his human life probably died first. (relatively speaking since it was probably near the same time still)
@@Yipper64 im guessing that simply means that lesley doesn't want to aknowledge david's death, or simply because yellow technically hasn't died in the show
this also could explain why duck had the hardest time fitting into the workplace. in his actual life he left his office job for the military (also explains how he could’ve possibly forged those documents leading to several deaths)
Something I'd like to mention, the main three and Roy aren't the only ones we can see in the Mullhoven sequence, we also see the twins from Ep3, they're mainly visible when we see all of the neighbors in the house. Tbh the twins have always intrigued me since they are the closest we get to human puppets (note that they don't have unnatural skin tones, regular shaped noses and actually change outfits for the majority of the episode.)
I was about to point that too. Maybe the twins have some sort of significance to David in the after life? Or maybe he just remembers them because they witnessed his death? The idea I have right now is maybe the reason why the episode families happens is because Yellow guy/David was an only child, so seeing the twins made him sad because he wished to have a sibling to share experiences with. He may also be jealous of the twins maybe because he has a strained family life and needed someone else to confide in say when Leslie and Roy had arguments because it worried him/scared him. Just a speculation
@@kpopgoblin6590 or because his dad (Roy) was neglectful, he would spent a lot of time hanging out with them so much so that he was 'such a close friend, he was basically family.'
Great theory as always!! My question would be: If Red Guy successfully re-enacted a scene in his life where his car breaks down near water, then wouldn’t we have seen him get a pound? I think the claim that Red Guy’s drowning is supported by the broken down car near the water is a bit more speculation than something we can jump straight to conclusions yet, but I believe you already addressed that. Definitely not saying it’s wrong though. I think something interesting to look into though would be the scene where the train teacher is transforming into a bunch of different vehicles. One vehicle he transforms into is a boat sailing on water, and Red Guy is seen steering the boat. This may be the way Red Guy drowns. Something may have malfunctioned on the boat, and he ended up drowning on a lake. Another thing to mention is that the train man also turns into Leslie’s car (like you’ve mentioned before) as well as a plane, which according to your theory in this episode, would relate to duck’s death. So I believe the train man’s role here was to show us the three different ways of transport that our 3 main characters died in. Yellow Guy died by car accident, Duck died by a plane accident (and then suffered through dehydration), and Red Guy died in a boating accident and drowned on a lake.
Could definitely be the case. Even if Red Guy did die in his car, he would have had to drive into the lake to drown (he isn't one to give up, even with his pessimistic behavior) and this could also be why he didn't get a pound for this sequence. He never finished it.
@@RemGames Also "You don't die for ages" makes me think that maybe that is how he died, but it's not supposed to happen yet. Red guy is doing things out of order, and that's why he doesn't get a pound.
Lamp also mentions the idea of reincarnation into your favourite animal, perhaps why duck’s face appears on the dog in the David scene, we also see red guy in that scene though so I don’t know how that would really apply to the story
I just want to make a quick note on Roy in episode 3, family; When he shows up to the family home at the end and then pushes yellow guy aside, I’m not sure if it’s necessarily out of malice. Once yellow guy is out of the house, you can hear Roy saying “yum yum” increasingly aggressively and the sounds of the family go from fervor over the food to screaming. This along with the bloody gore that hits the door makes me think that Roy wasn’t eating the food but instead was killing the family. Maybe he did this to protect his son or maybe he did this so that yellow guy could return to the house as the family kidnapping him would derail the show and he’s simply trying to keep things on track. All this followed by yellow guy’s response the next morning - “dad” said in a somber and reflective tone - makes me think he appreciated being rescued but was uncomfortable with the violence it brought, not that he was upset that his dad ditched him. None of this makes Roy a good dad but it does show how abusive parents may do things which in their mind are twisted expressions of love or care but are actually horribly abusive or traumatizing.
It called back to the original series to me as Roy enters following the family fervor for Grolton’s Chicken and the chicken bucket is the first thing he stares at as the camera focuses on it. Then he enters and has Yellow Guy step outside, begins his Yum Yums and once Yellow Guy can’t see anything he begins ripping the family apart. It wasn’t a Roy’s branded item like his cigarettes or his cereal it was a different brand and being showcased as a delicious product.
I love this theory. Being made into a puppet when you die, having to live in a pastel colored hell by forces outside your comprehension is an extremely cool idea
I really can't tell which it is lmao. I can't figure out if they thought about every single detail and it was all meant to fall into place like this, or if this is the greatest coincidence that could have ever happened, but either way, I'm loving doing it!
I think a lot of this stuff you’ve pulled is like… wayy too literal for the show’s tone and these interpretations would likely take a lot of the charm out of it, but that the themes, horror implications and existential mystery can still be intentional and the parallels you draw interesting. Yellow might represent the son Lesley lost, Duck might have had aspirations of air service and the same unhealthy obsession with the WW2 RAF many British men of a certain age and political leaning have rather than a spitfire dogfighting, nazi-killing military record.
The realization that Leslie most likely caused her own child’s death hit me like a brick. Her scream of panic in the transport episode was already blood curdling enough on its own, but now it’s so much worse with context.
Does anyone else find it strange that everytime a version of the intro plays, Roy is staring through a hole in the wall when it transitions from the fridge to the hanging portraits? Also, when we meet Stain, their is a water bowl and a food bowl with the word "SCRUNTY" on it.
God I love these types of comments. Because I don’t hear this things when I’m filming or editing, but when people point it out I realize how f’d it really is and I just die laughing 😂
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but remember how Duck is represented as a dog in the David flashback? If we see the plots of the Grolton and Hovris cartoons, there is a lot of moments featuring the ideas around hot temperatures and water, especially during their last appearance. The dog is denied water since it isn't his, and this may be another hint that Duck died of dehydration. A smaller detail is that the man says that he has gum disease, and Red guy during the big day montage is shown to have some freaky-looking teeth. Just throwing that out there.
This is a huge stretch but I like to think that the whole Grolton and Hovris bit with Duck is more than just a gag. It could be an allusion to whom Duck is supposed to represent ‘in real life’, kinda like how yellow guy seems to be based off David. And if that’s the case, then who or what? A human or a pet?
also we can see in the opening theme that roy has broken through the wall to try to get back into a position of power over the main three, possibly showing him trying to get back to lesley to eather try to get back with her or try to kill her so they would all be even.
@@RemGames One thing about Roy, is that even with his name on the credits, i don't believe he was ever in control of the stuff that happens in DHMIS, even in the original youtube series, is more that he was a part of it, and now with all the knowledge of the video, i think he is indeed part of what is going on but not in control, and want to escape as well, he did try to get in the car to escape that world with the other 3, and he influenced red guy to pull the plug to what he might believe will "destroy that world" (he doesn't try to stop him, he supports him, putting his hand on red guy's shoulder), which fails, the world doesn't get destroyed, just reset. So, Roy is more in control of himself than the other 3, and somewhat responsible for what happened (that's why his name is in the credit, not because he controls the world, but because he is responsible for the stuff that happened), but he is also a prisoner of this world, and wants to escape as well, which fits with the idea that all the puppets are trapped, roy would be as well.
One thing I can conclude about red guy is that he wasn’t satisfied with his life with Leslie. He says stuff like “we live in an actual nightmare” and tries to get away from the house multiple times
They all died because of transport and liquids. I think that David got trapped under Lesley's car and drowned in oil, like in episode Dreams of the original series. Notice how the lamp is present in this episode, and we know he is connected to death.
My theory for Red Guy based on what you presented and what jobs were assigned in the Jobs episode is that in life Red Guy was kinda Duck's opposite. He probably achieved a fair bit early on in some corporation (maybe the bosses son), but it was just thrust upon him when he really was looking for it (hence why he was the boss for Peterson's And Sons And Friends Bits & Parts Limited. While he did well her never truly loved the job as it wasn't what he wanted to do. The job was a burden on his spirit and slowly crushed whatever passion he had leading to his monotone "I dont really care" disposition he's had as a puppet. He probably only continued with the job because he's one of the "sons" in "Peterson's And Sons And Friends Bits & Parts Limited" (pressure to continue the legacy put on him). The feeling that he should of been dead could of been because of his work leading to depression and even suicide because of the pressures of his everyday life leading to him taking his life (or not paying attention and it accidentally happening) via drowning in some sort of accident in a body of water with his car. The reason I say he's Duck's opposite because in the show Duck's seems to always want to do something and with how his life is theorized it makes sense while Red Guy doesn't seem to want to do any of it, but goes along with it for the sake of his friends.
I want there to be a video about Red Guy and how he tries so hard to fit in wherever he ends up but continues feeling like the outsider. Even within this group of 3. Examples, wanting to move out, wanting a family, wanting to be anywhere but where he is. Because the upper powers in this world really like messing with him and his want to be somewhere real. They give him the family he asked for in episode 3 of season 2. But they are cold, callus, and don't acknowledge him. Meaning he is still alone. Despite getting what he wanted for a small time. It is not at all how he wanted it. When he wants to have a more serious life and "leaves" the show in the finale of season 1. He gets a job. But he is surrounded by red people just like him. Which are all played by his actor. There is no way the upper ranks didn't plan all that. They break his spirit and then dump him back into the show. Almost like a punishment. And every time he let's himself try to breakfree he is punished and then reset. Like with episode 5 transportation. Also since he is the one who seems to be constantly controlled by an actor this is quite sad. He is always surveyed by them. Always kept in line. Which is why unlike Yellow Guy, it's alot harder for him to get things past the actors. And Red Guy has been made aware of the actors. But the instant he realized it. They kill him by "blowing his mind", as a means of a reset.
@@freddiemedley5580 Nonono, i mean that something was inside roy that made him different from the others, it would explain how he could get closer to the actors in the original series
@@sanstheskeletong oh ok that makes more sense, and as you said it dose somewhat explain why hes different from all the other puppets. sorry if I came across a bit patronising before.
Im not sure if anyone has noticed this but I was thinking of why theres only one version of yellow guy and there are 2 other versions of duck and red guy. I think its because if Lesley made these characters for her doll house and yellow guy is meant to symbolize her son, maybe she only made one yellow guy because she could think that maybe David cannot be replaced? Yet duck and red guy has tons of replacements and even multiple versions of them both (yet red guy only has the multiple versions not replacements). Its probably not that important but I just think it was a nice detail
As for the repeating date of June 20th. I think it’s there to represent the day that the characters died. A reminder of what this date is and why it’s important. David, essentially, got run over by the car on June 20th. I also think that this tv series takes place before the UA-cam series, assuming this is all in the same universe, but I can go further into that if anyone else wants to hear.
@@Mimi_ownsyouall but at the end of the UA-cam show, the characters changed colors and the setting is different, so that wouldn’t work. I mean, June 20, 2021 isn’t after June 19th, 2022, right?
mini theory: roy also wants out and tries to speak to the main 3 but every time the actors controls red guy, duck or david (yellow guy) to keep him out of the show because he is not apart of it anymore. but is trapped to keep after the main 3.
I doubt people would see this but... in the family episode yellow makes 2 calls. Now I haven't seen anyone talk about this but if you pay careful attention to the phone you will see that yellow calls someone and says 'Help me!' then calls the fast food place. A bit later(when Roy comes) he says 'Dad, I knew you'd come' (or something among those lines) This leads me to believe that just maybe Roy didn't come for his own gain but to save yellow. When you when the scene with this context, it completely changes the meaning. Now this could be totally wrong but it would be nice to see someone covering the family episode with this context. Also, if you think about it, Roy isn't included in the family. We can tell via the intro(Roy is watching in through a whole in the wall and not in the house. We only see his eye therefore it metaphorically he doesn't interact, just watch) and he only appears when he is called. Now I know in episode 5 Roy randomly appears but, as you said, Roy is a 'caretaker' maybe he wanted to stop them .
if we find out where the car is, someone should check the lake for any secrets aswell as the car and just the general area. This will help us with the lore A LOT hopefully
So, the only problem with Duck is that when they’re going over the slide show in the Death episode you can hear YG go “…He didn’t do any of that.” Much in the same tone he goes “he wasn’t called that” when the mourners refer to Duck as David. Meaning likely that his studying martial arts, having a factory job, and military service should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
I like to believe that Leslie kinda created all of the puppet variants of these people after they died to heal her trauma in some sick way. This would mean that all of the three main cast members were close to Leslie somehow in their human life time so she created these characters and possibly the show itself to help heal the trauma of witnessing the deaths of these people who were in some way important to her. There’s some evidence out there that people have come up with to prove this possible theory. But I don’t think Yellow Guy’s id was technically wrong because it’s David specifically that died and not Yellow Guy. The id more than likely is only specifically for Yellow Guy himself and not his past life identity of David. So I believe all of the actual puppet versions of the cast is still living except Duck of course.
@@Pink_sky82 maybe it’s symbolism for her own grief. The fact that she still hasn’t accepted the death of her son so her grief treats her like a slave. She’s put into this sense of coping that the tv show is against her own will. It’s like she’s a slave to her mind. The upper level is the truth that she’s yet to accept. Also I believe puppet variant of Duck died in the tv show reality because Leslie is done mourning the real life person that represents him. The grief for irl Duck is gone and dead.
Probably not that important, but I noticed that the pound has an image of Roy's face on it. both the one the Briefcase gives to Duck at the end of ep 1, and the one that appears on the book in ep 6. I think it's a neat little detail ^^
I may be wrong, but in the web series we see many parts of what could have been red’s life. The cast may be re-living red’s dream of making a kids show. I also would like to point out that it may not be correct, but red guy could have been their neighbor as seen in the flashback, this may explain how he already knows Roy. In red’s former life he could have also just been close with David’s family in general.
Something I've never really seen talked about was in ep4, when in David's brain, we are met with the brain friends, one of which who is said to be David's older brother. Afterwards, he commits su*cide, and is seen as a puppet afterwards holding hands with David. Just thought there must be more to it, considering he was the only one to have actually died in that episode, while all the other brain friends just left. Maybe another member of the family? Just thought it was interesting, probably worth looking into.
I love your theory! Might I suggest, maybe Roy in the other house across the street isn't him greeting the neighbours, but rather his new family. To further put strain on Lesley and David, I think Roy have left, maybe a divorce? Since in all the pictures, it's David and Lesley, alone. This can even explain why David and his dad has such a bad relationship. Maybe the family in Episode 3 is Roy's new family? Idk
Just wanna add this real quick to the council theory: What if cult of Malcom is still a thing? I know the tv show and the yt series are two seperate things but yet we see his head appear on a shelf throughout the tv show. Also we know that the notebook and the clock are part of the cult, dressed in white robes. Maybe some higher members are called "The Council"?. And also what do the two have in common? They are teachers. Maybe the lamp has some deeper knowledge, but is yet not a part of the cult.
As a few others have said, I feel like the part about Red Guy is a stretch. If it's part of the hidden story that Red drowned in that lake, it would have either been seen in the show or made more obvious in the instagram picture. Besides, I don't beleive there's enough evidence to explain how he ended up from the break-down to drowning, considering the car rboek down nowhere near water. I also take issue with the remark that the cards in the wallet are "just props for the show, so shouldn't be 100% trusted". Not only could that logic apply to what the card actually says, but also to a lot of other pieces of evidence for the theories, particularly the keyboard in Episode 4.
It's not Matpat's theory, it's one that fans came up themselves way before his video came out. But that theory also makes more sense to me than this one.
Idea: what if, RG is not actually dead *yet*, but is in the process of dying? If he was comatose but slowly deteriorating, it could explain a lot of the imagery of the original UA-cam videos--whose themes seemed to always have him trying to escape or communicate with... something beyond the weird reality he was in. Hell, at one point he literally has a giant plug pulled out in his room--is life support being terminated? If RG dry-drowned after an accident on a lake (dry or secondary drowning takes place hours after the victim was initially submerged) and his brain was deprived of oxygen, then he could have easily be put into a coma. One from which he just...never recovered.
I've really enjoyed these videos you've made. They are well edited, visually interesting throughout, and the writing is thorough but the videos are short enough to not make my head spin lol I would like to state a few observations and a theory, in regards to dead family and Red guy's death: - Uncles are specifically described as being like fathers, but cheekier and in the distance - The twins say that they got their uncle's filing cabinet, and iirc that he burned to death - Said uncle is not X'd out like the other portraits, however, indicating he may have faked his death for a payout for his family - Red is obviously unaware of the danger in that episode, which might parallel how he was in real life before his death - Red's ID card saying that it 'thinks he drowned, something something water' is significant, it implies his death may have been more than just being drowned - Red is clearly shown to be disliked by the people who are supposedly his family all these statements put together make me believe that Red guy somehow had one connection or another to this 'uncle', and his death was not an accident but a targeted attack by either said uncle or a different party, who had caused his car to break down and then drowned him in the nearby lake I also personally like the idea that Red was part of the family before he died, but more as an adopted member so-to-speak, given he was: - Shown to be a neighbor in the community - Already feels like he's not really related (biologically I'd assume) to the other two, which causes some difficult feelings - He had been 'discarded' by his family during the photo shoot OH! Maybe he was shot near the water and then thrown in the lake and drowned? I don't know I'm rambling now XD Again, great videos! Looking forward to the next one ^^
While you may have a point with them all dying in some connection to Transportation, I believe that the conclusions made are not as strong as something else that I think we are missing from Episode 5. I believe that their deaths, if all need to be caused by the same thing, at the same time, in different locations, is actually Independence or their own Decisions. So for as many paragraphs I write (and this is the second time I am writing this because UA-cam Autoplay-ed a video and I lost my original draft), we will dive into why Independent Decision Making makes better sense of their Cause of Death and why it also fits the overall theme and events of the show. Firstly, I want to address the very VERY small elephant in the room. The Teachers. Mr. Choo Choo, as I will be calling him, is the first Teacher to die before finishing his Lesson. Some can say Mr. Coffin (yes I am calling him this too) from Episode 2 died before finishing his lesson, but his lesson finished when the funeral finished. His work was done and he was ready to let Duck rot in… him… Anyway, Mr. Choo Choo failed to distract our trio for the duration of “Playtime” (NOTE: Playtime is what I will refer to an Episode’s Duration, since being in the attic showed us Lesley, playing with our trio in the Doll House. Also because typing “Episode’s Duration” is longer than Playtime, and it is eerily cute too). Each episode has our cast distracted with something until the end of Playtime to stop them from breaking free and gaining awareness of their situation. Red Guy was the character that Lesley was trying to keep in check, hence why Transportation was the subject of our episode, because Yellow Guy and Duck were complacent since their Reset but Red Guy was more erratic. We know this to be an occurrence because in Episode 1: Jobs, Duck was the one unsatisfied with doing “Nothing” all day, which led to them learning about JOBS. You could argue that Red Guy was then uncomplacent with not doing anything all day, but that is then distinguished with how he easily became the Boss, and Duck was our Main Character since he was the “Rouge” out of the three. Another example is Episode 4: Friendship, where Yellow Guy is the only one who is beginning to hate Computer Day and how his friends treat him, which causes him to retreat into his mind and not be functional. He no longer wishes to be with those in the Doll House. However, unlike Duck and Yellow Guy, Red Guy’s Teacher dies before Red Guy reaches the end of Playtime and thus is still Rouge. And he still craves to leave the Doll House. (1/?)
Now we get into why Episode 5: Transportation is actually a disguise to hide its actual lesson. that lesson being Independent Decision Making. As we discussed earlier, Lesley does not want our trio to go Rouge, hence Resets and Teachers being a thing that keeps them in check. However, Playtime is when our trio is allowed some form of sentience or free will, and if the Teachers don’t distract them from making their own decisions on what to do, then they will begin to find ways of leaving and/or going against the system. Thinking for oneself is seen as taboo in the DHMIS series that is really apparent throughout the series. In ANY LESSON, if our trio decides to do something they simply want to do or say whatever they believe, they get punished for it. Like choosing the color green, painting a clown, believing time is human perception, playing with cards, choosing your own meal to eat, not wanting to enter the funny internet room. wanting to leave the house, etc etc etc. You get the idea. This can be alluded to a possible theory of PUNISHMENT in the afterlife and that our poor puppets, after dying due to making a decision that cost them their life, are now in an afterlife where they are not allowed to think for themselves because the last time they did that, it cost them their lives. The characters seem to be somewhat aware of this, hence them going rouge, mostly it being Duck and Red who fluctuate the most on the ROUGE METER and Yellow Guy being the most complacent when it comes to the episodes. Which is a wonderful transition into our next topic. Which is breaking down each character and why Making their own Decisions lead to their death. Yellow Guy/David - Yellow Guy is the easiest to break down due to how much information we have of him. He is air-headed, carefree, and childish. He thinks blissfully and full of ignorance. I would not call him stupid, since he clearly has intelligence, its just he hasn’t changed his batteries, but he is simply clueless of whats going on around him. Now, we know is Cause of Death, run over by a car. However, it is why he got run over which links everyone together. That being, the decision to follow the bird. In Episode 5: Transportation, Yellow guy is outside, presumably waiting for his Dad to get done visiting the neighbors, or about to greet his mother when she gets home since she is on the way back home from work or some other errand. He is met with the Father of this town’s church, and is gifted a bird. Due to him being possibly a young, easily distracted boy, he made the decision to not look both ways and follow the bird across the road, causing him to be hit by Lesley’s car. Now, Yellow Guy, being the smartest of the group, but having some sort of memory problem due to the batteries being old, has very interesting moments in Episode 5, like seeing his smarter self in the mirror or being able to relive a memory for longer than a minute. But in this episode, Red Guy and Yellow Guy are very aware of their situation, while Duck is sort of… There because he needs to be. Red guy says they should go somewhere else on their own, while Yellow Guy is very quick to say No and that “...We don’t have the transport man… It’s just us three. We can’t just do stuff ourselves… right?” This shows Yellow Guy is very against the concept of Free Will since he knows that bad things happen when you divert from the system of how things work in The Doll House. And as we know, Yellow Guy is the one who is the most complacent, since in the UA-cam series, he is the last remaining member to survive to episode 6 in the Doll House. Red Guy disappeared, and Duck was put in a can. What I also want to point out, and this may be a little graphic, is a study made about this sort of child behavior. When a child does something and is punished for it over and over again with increasing levels of intensity (such as abuse) they become scared to do said thing. This theory or behavior was tested, albeit one of the worst tests I have ever had to listen to. It went like this: [An infant/young child is allowed to play with toys in an enclosed room with speakers. However, when picking up a certain toy, a loud noise will play, alarming and causing the subject to cry from said noise. This is repeated over and over again until when SEEING the toy, the subject will become afraid of the toy, that even touching it will cause the noise to trigger and make them cry. The subject has learned, through punishment, what toy not to pick to avoid further punishment.] So, after the constant onslaught of gore, tragedy, and insanity after witnessing the punishment of doing something that diverts from the teacher’s lesson, as well as doing something of his own free will that ended him up dead, Yellow Guy has become afraid of doing things for himself. He is afraid of Making Decisions because it is the root cause of why he is here in this inescapable nightmare. (2/?)
Duck - Now, Yellow Guy was a lot to break down, and as we continue, it will get shorter since Duck and Red Guy have way less info than Yellow Guy. But Duck has some things we can still pick apart. His behavior is arrogance, narcissism, possible OCD, sass, and stubbornness. His life, from what we can tell, is pretty successful. He goes to college, rises through the ranks of his business job, and eventually goes into the airforce as his dream. Now, what decision he made that led to his death has to do with dehydration, since we know his CoD as well. But how can we link Dehydration to a decision he made? Well, once again in Episode 5: Transportation, we have our little show called Grolton & Horvis, where Horvis (or the Dog, since the Human refers to the dog as Horvis) didn’t bring any water. Water bottles or flasks are either stored in your G-Suit or Helmet bag, which in Episode 2: Death, we can see Duck not wearing either. Either be it arrogance of thinking he could fly a plane without a G-Suit and Helmet, or even just not thinking he needs water is what I lean my theory on that being the Decision that causes him to end up dying. Being in a pressurized flight tank can be exhausting, as well as being in a metal tin can. You’ll become sweaty, or even dehydrated, but because Duck probably said “I don’t need that, I will be fine.” and didn’t have any water, he ended up getting dehydrated mid flight, passed out, and crashed his plane, causing his death. This also is supported when in Episode 2: Death, he seems to laugh at the fact he died of dehydration, as if he can’t believe such a silly thing would happen to him. He died by his arrogant behavior and making the decision to not pack water with him up in the air. And due to his arrogant decision, he is stuck in this inescapable nightmare. (3/?)
Red Guy - He is the hardest to figure out by far, but is also the saddest to think about too. In terms of making decisions, I believe he is the one who makes the most drastic decision, and dies the saddest death. I believe he makes the decision to take his own life. Now before I continue, please continue this at your own discretion, Suicide is a heavy topic, and I do not wish to cause anyone to be upset/triggered by said topic. I will be touching the subject lightly as a possibility, so take my words with a grain of salt. Red Guy can be seen as laid-back, dismissive, cynical, and repressed/depressed. He is the one hiding his emotions the most, not really speaking loudly most of the time or showing any sort of change in tone. He enjoys doing nothing, being relaxed. However, he has become stir crazy, since even doing nothing and listening to a boring list made by Duck can drive one mad. He finally wants to go out and change his life, wants control of his life again. But he can’t… At least, not for long. We do not know anything about Red Guy’s life, even the video was having a hard time grasping what he could have possibly caused Transportation to lead to his death, via car accident careening him into a lake and drowning. But I think there is more to it. Red Guy driving the car and it breaking down isn’t that literal, but yet it is symbolic of his own life. Red Guy in Episode 1: Jobs is against getting a job and he simply wants to sit and do nothing for the rest of his life. He seems content with it, but this probably didn’t go well with his family. They probably hated him for it, called him a deadbeat most likely. But it probably was due to a lack of motivation or not knowing what he wants to do with his life. When he reluctantly gets an office job, as shown in Episode 6 of the UA-cam Series, he has trouble adjusting to the environment and is outcast amongst his co-workers. He feels disconnected, and no matter how much he tries to do something he thinks is… CREATIVE, he is shunned and booed for trying to do that. He is having trouble pleasing others, and is becoming dissatisfied with his life. Getting a job makes him miserable, but not having one makes his family angry. And by proxy, makes him miserable as well. He is sort of trapped. No matter what he does, he feels he has no control over his life because he is only trying to please others. It is also probably why he is so hell bent on being with a Family, because to him, a Family is someone who probably cares about you, but during that family photo scene in Episode 3: Family, we possibly get a glimpse of some internal, repressed memories or feelings of his past family. The comment of him smiling and that he should stop probably alludes to how Red Guy doing things on his own is something not approved of, and he should do what the Family wants. No longer making decisions for himself. Now, why the destination is important is something to digest. A lake by a junkyard. You can easily dispose of a car at a junkyard and no one would be none the wiser. And a lake is also an easy way to dispose of bodies. Red Guy, feeling trapped by not being able to have control of his life and that no matter what he does, he will never be satisfied, makes the decision to go to a junkyard, dispose of his car, and take his own life by diving into a lake to sleep in a watery grave. It is also probably why in Episode 2: Death, he is surprised that Duck is the one to die, probably because he thinks that out of the three, he would be the most likely to die due to being so willing to take his own life. But because of all the amnesia in the show, why he gets confused that he drowns can disprove this. However, I would like to point out that in Episode 5: Transportation, they do end up somewhere. The Junkyard with the Lake. How would Red Guy even know how to get there? Because he has been there before, he was on auto-pilot to his destination the whole time. He is shaken up when the trio gets there, you can hear it in his voice. A character who we have never seen so emotionally vulnerable before, finally is because he went to the place where he made the Decision to take his own life. And due to making this decision, he is stuck in this never ending nightmare. Every character has ended up dying due to a decision they made that is linked back to their own life. Yellow Guy and Lesley, Duck and the Military, and Red Guy and his Family. And if we need a date of when they all died, everything links back to 19. Or 196. In the UK, how dates are written are Day, Month, Year. So their death could of all happened on the 16th of June of an undisclosed year. But this is why I believe that instead of all of them having some mode of Transportation being what links their death, but rather Free Will and Decision Making is the actual link, and what ties everything together in the show. Now if you’ll excuse me, I am gonna go rest my brain. (4/4)
One bit of info that I think can further this is when the three argue about their roles in Family. Duck claims he’s the dad but Red says “if anyone’s the father figure, its me” and if we know him and yellow are brothers, it could mean that Red was more of a father to Yellow then Roy when they were alive. Meaning Red was his older brother, and way older due to him not being present when yellow died (went away for college?), which would explain why he’s taller and generally is put as an older person (was the boss in jobs). It also explains Roy’s ignorance of Yellow, as while he’s Yellow’s dad he seemingly doesn’t care for him (evidence you went over), which is why Red says he’s the father figure. My point is that this could lead to more concerning Red before he died, as we very obviously know the least about him before his death. Maybe it had something to do with him getting the devastating news that his brother had died, maybe connecting it to how he drowned in a lake. A couple a pieces that confuse me is that if duck died while stranded from a plane crash, why is he pictured as present in the David crash sequence? My only idea is that he had already died at that point (why he’s a duck now but Roy is still human) and there in spirit? Or reincarnated as the dog, which would mean he died again that same day as the dog. Idk this part confuses me
I think that Red Guy's *real name* is Jason. During Episode 5, Transport, in the beginning Duck is taking inventory. When Duck swats the fly you can see that the clipboard is a prop with every item on the front page embroidered in. As duck is taking a visual inventory and is generally a neat person that doesn't like things to rock the boat isn't it weird that one of his most recent items, the dead fly he just killed as it flew around the kitchen, was at the very top of the list followed by several other items he would've already seen and written down? Duck simply shrugs and goes "Another dead fly" but there's no indication of a first dead fly in the room. I think that it's more likely when Duck says "I'm taking my visual inventory, making sure everything is here" he isn't writing down what he sees with that pen he's just using it as a prop while he goes down the list and makes sure everything is there and in order. "One dead fly" was written by the creators who hold the puppet strings and Duck had to make sure there was a dead fly in the room for his visual inventory. Duck has never written the list, it was just with him at the start of the episode prior to anyone speaking because the creators wanted it there. This is why Duck believes it to be a new dead fly because he believes he's already written down "One dead fly" because it was already on the list. At the very bottom of the list is "One Jason". If Duck is doing a visual inventory, then a Jason is in the room. If Yellow Guy's real name is "David" and Duck isn't including himself in the inventory, then Red Guy's real name must be Jason. EDIT: This is unrelated to Jason, but I also believe that Duck is David's grandfather or something to that degree. My evidence for this is a bit shaky though. In the original DHMIS 6 episodes, Episode 2 "Time" has a few moments where David takes the opportunity to share information about himself/his life. He isn't normally smart but when he gets very into a song like during the beginning of Episode 5 of Season 2, "Traversal", he manages to subconsciously dredge up information he shouldn't otherwise have access to with the state of his batteries. He shares with the audience he's friends with his dad Roy (or at least, he believes himself to be) and then during the next section of the song "Time went new and got old like history, and *stuff from the past went into a mystery*" If we know that it is Lesley singing or playing the songs that the characters hear each episode, then she believes part of her past is still a mystery to her as well. Then David sings "An old man died" Pointing up at an old man laying in a casket, like Duck in Season 2 Episode 2, and to the left of the old man is a golden coin with a part of Duck's Name symbol etched into it. The straight line, the half circle, and the dot in the middle. It's missing the small square symbol that rests next to the straight line and between the horns of the half circle. Then Tony/Lesley very quickly change the subject and try to distract "But look at this computer!" Like it's information Yellow Guy isn't supposed to remember. Information about another family member of his, like his dad. Except this was his grandfather.
I think there’s a difference between the dolls of red, yellow and duck and the actual person or thing they represent. Yellow represents David, David is dead, but Yellow guy isn’t. Duck represents the gift given to David like a bird or a pet, duck keeps dying and the original is dead, but I think Leslie has the backups because she just replaces them when they die and yellow/David can’t see the difference between them. It’s like when you’re a kid and your pet dies, your mom tries to get a pet that is just like yours to not see her son sad. Red, well, he’s alive. I don’t know what he would represent.
In episode one Duck says he wants to make a digital currency based around respect, and in the same episode the vending machine tells him that he needs to pay for the stuff ( presumably with the token ) but at the end he gets the respect token that he talked about wanting to make. This could mean 2 things, 1, that the pounds that the lamp was talking about aren't pounds but are actually tokens based off of the person that they give the token to, or 2, the coin means nothing and is just a funny gag. you may believe what you want but I'm just tossing my personal ideas out there
Thank you so much! I think there's a lot of communal theories for DHMIS that all work. MatPat's is a piece of it, mine is a piece of it, etc. And when bringing them all together, we get the full story. It's very hard to solve the entire show on ones own, but if working as a community, everything slides into place
Duck died of dehydration and got his organs removed, tho, later on in the coffin he says he has to pee and eventually does (a lot), but to be able to do that he would need to have his bladder (but his organs are supposed to be removed) also he said he drank a milkshake before and thats why he really needed to go, which also kinda contradicts that he died being dehydrated (in that specific moment). So his dead in that episode has to be definitely a reenactment, which he fail to do right since everything went wrong and he even returned home. But idk what to do with this info or what it means
Red guy's death is a GIANT bloody stretch. You've almost entirely disregarded the fact that the card says "You don't die for ages", which is in fact very much an extreme contradiction to a lot. Plus, you think red guy drowned behind a dump because... There's water. In a photo. On a twitter account. In a quite litteraly completely random dump, not even the one from the show. That's a giant stretch.
The family wallet only shows Duck being dead in the episode "Death". But that's because that's the person the episode is centered on. I don't think we can extract metadata from the wallet and just can't make any real connections there. In fact, there's you conjecture several times here. We don't know Red gets stranded nor that Duck does either. We do know that the wallet says Red dies in a lake, so maybe Red drove his car into the lake. In any case, we need more evidence to be gathered.
But, if Red Guy called Yellow Guy "brother", doesn't that mean they're brothers? Probably with a big age difference, since David died when he was a kid while Red Guy was old enough to have his own car when he died.
I believe that we could actually fit this theory into the old series pretty well. It could help explain alot of it and give us the answer as to what Red guy's life was like, that he was an office worker who had dreams of making a show, but that his show was then overtaken by commercialization and product placement and so he called it all off. Perhaps, considering how dark this show loves to be with it's themes, he even became depressed after this and purposefully drove into the lake. Although that is just my personal opinion on how this could fit into the old series without having to fully retcon alot of it.
I think Red's life is shows in the Dreams episode, he lived a boring life, pursued a career in comedy meeting Roy in the process and (the parts in >< is a theory) >going onto make a children's show (blue red guy, green yellow guy and red duck on july 20th) with Roy's supervision< Red was shown to be unhappy with his life and, I don't know how to put this gently but I think he might have intentionally driven his car into a lake to "escape it" the same way he tries to escape the house, he doesn't fully get to the lake in the series because his car broke down (hence no pound). I also think his attempts to escape the show might stem from this, it's common for survivors of accident based suicides (jumping off things, car crash drowning ect) to report regretting it as it's happening. I think he drive himself into the lake then as he drowned tried to escape the car because it wasn't what I wanted. Especially since his Character seems most uncomfortable with his death, he's trying to escape, Duck was willing to give his life to the military so he is indifferent, and David/Yellow died without having the chance to know he did so he's stuck a bit unaware and stupid in death. When he wises up that might be the version of David that survived the accident, a good student with good potential who went on to be smart and successful, sadly cut down in his youth after his curiosity killed him. I also thinks the story would make sense for Red having offed himself, maybe he didn't get the show going like that particular theory suggests, maybe he stayed in that job with mean coworkers and a family who didn't like him and cut him out. He escapes his death when the car breaks down which according to the laws of family would prevent the others from dying and breaks the whole afterlife world, shoving them into the real living world of purgatory until Leslie brings them back, knowing that attempt wasn't successful in bringing back her son. Maybe that's why thr next episode she gives David/Yellow the book, she saw how close they got at thought it was the time to trust them with it. Also, Leslie may have attempted suicide after David's death and her divorce but was unsuccessful. Maybe she's in a coma hense her between puppet and human appearance, this show could just be Lesley and her brain failing as she dies after her attempt, but the more supernatural "This is the bad place!" type of theory would be much more in tune with the story.
4:50 he says “there’s definitely water” Not *unintelligible* ..with water like the subtitles said. I feel like that could open up another red guy death possibility, involving water of course
Great theory, I really enjoyed this. I'm not sold on Duck's identity though. What we know about Duck's life from that screen was supposed to be about David, not Duck. Also, Duck seems to have no connection to the family in this theory, although admittedly I have no clue what red guy's connection would be either. I think Duck has been echoed as a dog for a lot of the series. David has a dog that resembles Duck, and in the show that they watch (I forget the name but it's always on the TV), the 5th DHMIS episode has Duck watching the show in the car where the guy and the dog are really hot, but the dog doesn't get any water because he didn't bring any. Makes me think the dog might die of thirst, just like Duck did. Also a side note, but in the family episode Duck refers to David as the pet, which maybe alludes to the idea that the family does have a pet (although he also called himself the dad so this could also just be me looking too far). Curious if anyone has any thoughts on this, it's not something I've looked into deeply so it could be easy to debunk for all I know. Can't wait for the next theory!
"a family is a bunch of people that die on the same day in the same style of accident, but in different locations." Basically, they didn't need to be related in the real life, they were grouped together in the afterworld by their method and time of death
I feel they actually arent dead but they are like symbols for lesleys family as a way for her to grieve. Maybe lesley in a way is a roy - like father figure to another more human like family version of our main cast. I just feel like this is actually really really close to the real lore but its off somewhere somehow. It feels complicared and overexplaining and underexplaining other things
Your videos are so good man. Matpat finally covered the show and just talked about the most basic thing we've known for ages. Glad you're digging deeper
i know people are saying youre the new matpat, and i agree. the way you state subjective interpretations as irrefutable facts (roy pushing yellow guy because he "loves the other family more" and duck's military experience being one of the final moments of his life) the theory is good, but roy definitely killed that other family. it's also implied duck is a senior citizen with a past of being in the military. specifically, he grew old after coming back from it
I think the theory is pretty solid but I have trouble with red guy's dead. Everyone else fits perfectly and he... Just drowns in a lake because his car malfunctioned? I think he may be alive or maybe he's dead is not clear yet. But everything else is actually really well done. Congrats on 15k
I think we're going pretty all in on the idea that Lesley is Yellow Guy's mother. Lesley is suggested to have built or been involved in building "all this", although she avoids a direct answer, and regards Yellow Guy as "one of her favourites", so I think the most we can interpret from "your not my real son" is that Lesley is in fact involved with the creation of the characters in some capacity, but holds even her favourite creations at arms length, and doesn't think of her creations as her children. As far as the scream when Yellow Guy is struck by the car, Lesley is shown to be orchestrating or at least curating the events to some extent, and I think it's relevant that she presents the events as a children's show. Combined with her attire and piano, I think all we know is that she sees herself as an entertainer, even a performer, and judging by the themes of the show and her appearance, I don't know that we're necessarily meant to trust her or her performance. We're getting distracted from the real smoking gun here; why does Yellow Guy keep insisting "Grolton is the dog" to everyone? He sees it as a twist that Red Guy didn't pick up on, and conspiratorially whispers it to Duck as if it's information he needs to watch the show. Yellow Guy is often shown to know the larger truth even if he doesn't fully realize that is the truth. One of these boys is the dog, I'm telling you.
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of these things that the creators of the show put into the series are red herrings to create endless speculation to ensure a Season 2. They saw how much people speculating and theorizing was good for their web series and got their chance, so they added little symbols, phrases, objects, characters, etc. to make sure people would demand a 2nd season.
While I really enjoy this theory series, there is one big thing I don't quite understand about this Death Theory: In season 1 we learn that Red Guy was the original host of the show, and Roy was the business guy making him able to start it. If we keep on with this story that they were all part of a family, died and are now in the afterlife, we would need to throw this backstory out of the window. Or is there a way to connect it?
You say that there is a connection between the car accident, and Red Guy drowning in the lake? I feel like there would be more pointers, if that were the case. I'd like to point out, that Manny was complaining that he had no raisins, and what did it take, for him to magically produce a cup of raisins? It was the situation of "ChooChoo is dying from eating raisins", then we see him vomit up the special drink, that he was told was something ChooChoo needed to function. And he picks up Roy from off the side of the road, a character who has previously been known as a jailor of the characters in the show. Seems like Manny is doing everything he can to become the new jailor, and intro 5 tells us Robin is surprised/exhausted, Harry is vocalising his frustration with living a nightmare, but Manny is just happy to be back "learning with the guys (again)". Yes, I think Manny is in his villain-arc. Then at the dump, Robin does "visual inventory", while examining Manny, he describes: "one bag of meat", then proceeds with "one cooking fire, one deadly weapon, one soft skull..." and then Manny is startled as he turns to realise what is happening. But then Lesley is like: "Yeah, no, it won't be that easy, guys!" and does the reset. Harry would seem to confirm, that he is a brother to Manny, meanwhile Robin sings: "in many ways, I am my own family", suggesting all the Robins "die on the same day, in the same style of accident, but in different locations".
i agree with a lot of this, but i actually think we can infer more about red than we think. He's in Mulhoven too, and his entire character from the beginning of the show has been wanting to break out and find something beyond this. I think he was desperately unhappy living in a tiny town and wanted to get out, but for whatever reason was unable to. having a brother is INCREDIBLY important to yellow, as his "imaginary older brother" has shown up at least four times in the show that WASN'T in yellow's head, but the fact that he's so prominent in his head at all shows how much that means to him. And red straight up calls him "brother". I think they really were brothers in life, but david's death destroyed him. and well, there was a lake nearby....
Yellow guy shy older brother puppet appears in wakey wakey, i'm pretty sure wakey wakey is not canon to dhmis, but who knows, maybe there's a connection there.
Okay, maybe it's that they all died at the same time from 'drowning'. Duck didn't have to die on an island, you can technically die at sea from dehydration, but then he slipped under. So "drowning" in his final moments while technically dehydration was the main cause of death. Red guy is more on the nose with drowning and Yellow Guy could "drown" from blood.
So, random thought. What if red guy is the one who ran over David? I mean, it’s using the same car he was driving in this episode and it could explain his actions in the transportation episode. After hitting David, he kept driving to run away from his actions until the car broke down. At which point, the guilt caught up witch him, causing him to commit suicide by drowning. This could explain the scene he was replicating in the transportation episode, as he is trying to get away from the place his actions would effect him the most, and why his ID card says he doesn’t die for ages since it is a notably longer time from duck’s and David’s deaths. Does that work out or is there something I’m missing?
Interesting theory but in the town flashback red guy was standing off to the side in the house next to yellow guys, he’s his neighbor, he wasn’t in the car
@@msbriannaamour that would also imply that the duck lived with Roy and hasn’t left in his airplane yet and if he died of dehydration and died at relatively the same time as the other two, he would have needed to leave days before then so there shouldn’t be a reason that he would be in Roy’s house at the time.
@@firstwaddledee9182 I think duck lived with Leslie, Roy and David as the family pet, he might have just died from neglect but then again if that's the case I don't know why he would have a backstory with a plane, also it doesn't make sense that Duck was sitting right there in the flashback as well as Red if they all died at the same time
Here’s something I wanna say which probably doesn’t make any sense but oh well, Instead of Lesley having one son,she had two which was Yellow and Red (Red being Lesley’s oldest son while yellow is her youngest obviously) Both dying by someone else. My belief on this is because how the characters are treated…Red and Yellow are usually the ones the show focuses on. I believe the characters represent who died that day which was a driver duck (represent on a bird lead to yellows death),The Oldest son Red (again, one of the many character focuses and him in the YT series with Roy/ Yellow’s Dad), and David Yellow (Who’s the one that started all this) That’s just my take personally
I think you’ve incorporated a lot of red herrings and nightmare nonsense into your theory. The “pound” that briefcase flings at Duck could easily be the digital currency that he was obsessing over. It even looks similar to the digital currency. Or it could just be a reward for his hard days work. The British pound coin came into circulation in 1983. The circular design of the pound was phased out in 2017, with the new mints having straight edges and a silver colored center. So that coin, if it is a felt version of a pound, would have been from 1983-2016. The biplane that Duck supposedly flies looks much older than the 1980s, it’s closer to WW1 era. In the show, the technology is from a variety of eras and Duck isn’t confused when using modern technology (the internet, crypto currency, streaming platforms). If Duck “got it right” like the lamp suggests, what did he get right exactly? Getting mauled by the Carehound? Getting hot black water lasagna spewed onto his hand? Creating a grey slime creature to be shredded? It’s all nonsense. The joke about the lamp is he is confusing an already confused Yellow Guy with conspiracies about subterranean overlords then he just ends the conversation like it’s nothing. I seriously doubt he has any insider knowledge or is a crucial character. Why would this random lamp with 3 or 4 lines throughout both shows know the secret and share it with Yellow Guy. No other teacher tries to clue them in, every one of them just sings them fake values and brings misery. They are just there to torture the trio because it’s funny.
This feels more like a stretch than previous episodes. The issue in that regard, I think, is that a lot of things overlap, and it seems almost random which are and aren't seen as important or 'story canonical' for the sake of explaining the lore. Like, the fact the ID card says Red Guy doesn't die for ages, doesn't matter. The fact that duck says he dies from dehydration and is seen in a plane as well? That means he crashed on a deserted island and thus died from dehydration, because a family must die at the same time from similar accidents. But Lesley isn't dead, and she's David's family. There's just a lot of things taken as factual explanations here that just really feel like a stretch.
I have an idea about how Roy died. In episode 5 we see Roy get thrown out of a car maybe that is how he died. It would also make sense because david Said that a family die in the same style of accident but in diffrent locations and Roy's death involved a veichle Just like the others deaths.
If ya listen to the train man, his drink is made from the "remnants of the ancient ones" and that he needs it to live. There is also "Black juice" that is also eerily similar during the work episode as well
What if Duck was a high executive of Petersen bits and parts? Or Mr. Petersen himself, a despicable boss self-made man that started from the bottom and rose to the top by crushing everybody? I could see this character firing a long time employee for a work injury, at least more than Red Guy. Red Guy seemed rather to be an everyday suburban man, and a bored one in the process. He also seems quite lonely and not successful in his social interactions with fellow coworkers, customers on the phone, nor family members. When he cares and try to help, he ends up causing more trouble (when he gives raisins to the car resulting to its death).
I didn't notice at first, but that's really interesting with the lamp's theory. However, I think when he mentions "getting it right", I don't think he's referring to Lesley's story, rather the council's (aka Becky and Joe/the show's creators). It's also interesting that the lamp isn't dead/in the "wherever Red Guy and Duck was" with the other dead/trapped teachers. (Is it just me, or did they call it "the box"?) Another thing of importance that was COMPLETELY GLOSSED OVER, and I'm quite surprised really, is that one of Yellow Guy's imaginary friends is a kite named Satur-David! so Yellow Guy, David, and Lily and Todney, who are shown to be Yellow Guys neighbors in ep. 5's Mullhoven scene must've all been friends at some point or something... I think the biggest problem/trap with this video's theory is that you are taking Lesley and the story we see as a reliable narrator. But we can't, because we already know Lesley is being controlled in some way, AND we know she is very limited with how much influence she actually has in the lives of the three guys. I think the simplest explanation with Lesley and David is that Lesley was the one who accidentally ran over her own son, David. She didn't die for real, but she's no longer alive. I think she feels tremendous grief over killing her own son, and the only solace she has is in this twisted escapist fantasy where she can always watch over her surrogate son, forever. In my past comment/sub-theory to one of Rem's previous videos, I suggested that Lesley willingly let herself be used by the "Council". I think the best deal she got was getting to "make the show" (in some capacity of catharsis/healing), but one of the stipulations is that she can't interfere/interact directly with them, no matter what. (Again, that's why she couldn't save Yellow Guy when he was at the other house with L and T.) I still think my theory holds up better than this (no offense intended), and I think it gives a much better explanation to Red Guy, Duck, and Roy.
Duck dying of dehydration could also be related to how in episode 3, he implied that he had rabies. rabies makes you fear water so you can't wash away the infected saliva
Maybe there were animals wherever he got stranded that gave him the rabies.
@@eloise2319 good point
Except he drank a milkshake.
Also goultron and homphris
waa that makes no sense
Here’s an idea: what if we, the audience, are the council? We are watching them reenact their lives in this show, and by watching them on Channel 4 we are supporting and funding the creators, or paying them.
GENIUS
WAIT I LOVE THAT
And every time they get it right they get a pound 😂
Yes, we, a collective unconscious, moved the hand of a business case guy puppet and threw literal coin in duck’s face! Come on my guy, a pound is not only (or even not necessarily ) metaphorical, it’s literal inside the show’s world.
Rick and Morty deals with and jokes about this idea though, that audience is the overlord. And some other show, though I can’t quite put my finger on it…
I had the same thought when the council was mentioned
I remember watching a 3 part series on UA-cam called the trauma theory about the web series. I decided to look at the show and try to play with the idea that this is Leslie processing her trauma
Episode 1 is about how Leslie's parents met and her working through her father's death.
Episode 2 is about both her grieving for her father and getting a stepdad.
Episode 3 is about how she felt out of place within her new step family and later cut ties with the family when she started seeing roy.
Episode 4 is about how roy would also make her remove all connections with friends.
Episode 5 is about coping with her son's death.
And episode 6 is about her coping mechanisms
Interesting. I might take a closer look at that
@@RemGames funny enough, while I was thinking this, I also thought about the lamp idea you bring up in this video
@matthew flugsted I completely agree with your ideas for what the theme is for each episode. I also watched a three part series from flim tidbits (I am assuming that's who you wanted) about the trauma theory I think It is the theory that makes the most sense for the DHMIS world especially after we see Lesley in the TV series
@@miaatherden4584 that's the one. I also found kind of a hole in my theory. The hole is that what character plays what role changes several times in an episode. In episode 3 Roy is Roy and in 4 Roy is warren, In episode 1 yellow guy is Leslie's dad and in episode 2 yellow guy is Leslie, in episode 2 the stepdad in stain and in episode 3 the stepfather is Ronnie and todnies father, things like that
Do you think the original series is tied to Lesley?
She is rather creative, she ran out of time to spend with her son, love should be fairly obvious, and past that I'm not too sure.
I thought that Yellow Guy was like a cyborg replacement for David, hence Leslie going “YOU’RE NOT MY REAL SON” and the fact he runs on batteries, and having duck’s insides removed could be a nod back to the eating healthy youtube show as well?
Now that you brought it up, it's strange how she said "You're not my REAL son" instead of, "You''re not my son". weird.
I had the same thought, and commented the same on the previous video. Maybe Yellow guys body is dead David’s body, which is why we see him having flesh wounds. It’s a dead body re-animated with wires and batteries. - but then why would an electrically powered dead body have a will, and a self consciousness?
@@yishaizukkol3099 In one of the intros Yellow Guy says “And I’m the yellow pig!” So perhaps his favorite toy was some sort of pig stuffed animal or maybe even an actual pig puppet that they had for entertaining babies. Could be where so much of the puppet stuff comes from, trying to surround David with a world of what he loved while alive.
@@SebastianKaye why wouldn't it have a will or self consciousness, maybe it is designed really well
*Yellow Guy/David* and his parents had just moved into a new neighborhood. His mother/Lesley heads out (grocery shopping or something we don't know) The father/Roy is left looking after david. Unfortunately, Roy is a very neglectful father and leaves his young son unattended as he goes to mingle with the new neighbors. Daivd sees a bird and starts chasing it. This causes him to run onto the road where Lesley, who was just coming back home, accidentally runs him over.
*Duck* was quite successful in life. He had a good job and enough money to live to comfortably. However, duck had no contact with his family and he had no close friends either. He told himself he didn't need anyone else, that he was fine on his own, but the loneliness only got worse as he got older. Duck had always been a patriot and a big fan of the military, so when the loneliness became to much, Duck signed up for the air force. One day, when he was out serving, his plane malfunctioned. He crashlanded, leaving him stranded alone with no food or water. He eventually died from dehydration.
*Red Guy* had never quite fit in with the rest of his family, where showing emotions or coloring outside of the lines was frowned upon. People where expected to get an 9-5 job and settle down, get married and have kids. However, Red Guy didn't want to live that kinda life. This caused him to have quite a rocky relationship with the rest of his family. One day he decides to leave it all behind and start a new life where he was free to do whatever he wanted. So he packs his bags and drives away. He had no real destination in mind, he just wanted to leave. After a long drive his car starts breaking down, he loses control of the vehicle causing him to go off road and into a nearby river. He is unable to get out of the car and drowns.
(Sorry if the grammar is shit. English is not my naitve language)
Grammar is pretty much perfect 👍
The grammar is great.
I have a feeling something else happened to Red Guy, and it wasn't an accident - that is, he didn't seem to be very happy in the little vignettes that hint at what his family and work life were like. I'm getting the feeling he threw himself in a lake and drowned himself, if there is something to this theory at all.
I might be wrong about that, though - that does make it worth revisiting Yellow Guys' definition of "family" at 5:33 - "...all die on the same day, in the same style of accident, but in different locations...." That does seem to suggest that the characters all died in accidents, and not just any accidents, but the same style of accidents on the same day, but in different locations.
That might suggest that Red Guy died in a car accident that resulting in his drowning, while Yellow Guy died in a car accident in which he was struck chasing a pet into traffic, which in turn suggests that Duck might have also died in a car accident, on the same day, in a different location, leading to dehydration, but we don't have much info to go on to say exactly how that happened... dehydration is an odd sort of death under any circumstances, really, at least in the English sort of setting the series seems to imply for all the characters, so unless the video theory about the plane crash on a desert island is on target, we'll need to look for more clues about Green Guy.
Interestingly, Red Guy in "Transportation" seems to be determined to drive the car, but doesn't know how to operate it - Duck has to tell him "Green means go!", to start the old-fashioned car with an out-of-place start button (with the equally anachronistic cassette-tape player and digital entertainment system being worth noting here, too: that whole sequence in the car is strange, even by this show's strange standards!) It's fair, I think, to wonder if Red Guy really knew how to drive at all, or whether Red Guy was at least in any condition to be driving - perhaps driving drunk, into a lake? (Just a wild guess.)
Assuming that the three characters died on the same day in different locations, how far apart are these different locations? It is curious that, of all the places that Red Guy might have a strange urge to try to escape to in "Transportation", he just happens to choose the town where it seems Yellow Guy died... with Duck's hypothetical death by dehydration-and-car-accident being somewhat mysterious compared to the others, this might suggest the characters died on the same day in the same town, but in different car accidents.
It's notable that the voiceover - from LE5L3Y - makes a point of asking the policeman about crimes, confirming with him that there are no crimes to investigate. I think we can take the officer's word for it that there were no crimes to report, and this seems to suggest the town to be a quiet place where nothing really happens, until suddenly there were three different accidents, if this line of thinking is on the right track.
And if the characters all died on the same day, what day might that be? The series might have hinted at that date all along: June 19, 1955.... Which seems to match up curiously well with the glimpses we catch of Duck and Yellow Guy's past lives: 1955 would be within a short distance of time from the WWII style aircraft Duck is posing in, and might be just about right for the old-fashioned town in what seems to be Yellow Guy's "David" flashback...
Of course, it's possible that dying "the same way on the same day in different places" need not mean that the characters all died in car accidents: in much the same way that Red Guy seems to have drowned and Duck seems to have dehydrated, "the same way" seems to be a bit flexible in this sense, so maybe general "Transportation" is the central theme not just to the episode, but also to the deaths... Duck might well have died in a plane crash of dehydration, while Yellow Guy died in a car accident, and Red Guy might have drowned in, say, a boating accident.
There's a lot of things to unpack there, and something tells me that answers to some of these questions might still be hidden in the "Transportation" episode in seemingly random remarks or reactions from the characters that take on a new meaning in this context.
DAYUM THATS TOO CREATIVE
The question is: what are duck and red guy's relation to lesley?
What if Roy was a long time worker of Petersen bits and parts? And the old Yellow Guy on the first episode is actually Roy? Distressed by his work accident, the subsequent firing and the fact that nobody cared, he moved to a new neighborhood with his wife, and neglected everything around him.
This theory kinda works with the characters designs as well-
David died as a child, so Yellow is about the height of a child and isn’t very mature. He also wears an outfit you’d see more commonly on a young boy about 10 or so
Duck died presumably near (salt)water, and was there due to a plane, something that flies- so he’s a bird
Red drowned in a lake- I’m not sure if it’s a freshwater species, but there is a red type of algae
Very true! I’m not sure if this was at all intentional, but I also don’t know if half the things that work perfectly in this show are intentional either 😂
Ew wait but that could also mean red guys eyes popped out of his head which is why his eyes are on the top
This theory is doesn't make much sense since the desings of the characters are directly coming from the web series.and that story is about real life actors alongside with yellow guy getting controled by roy for his product placement and tormenting his son/yellow guy
And Roy looks ugly becuase Lesley resents him.
@@justanothergoth6544 The family thing Yellow said could also apply to Roy- like he died in a drunk driving accident or something. Or maybe Lesley killed him?
if them being dead is represented by them turning into puppets, then leslie's puppet like appearance despite being human implies that she's metaphorically dead.
I really like this puppet = death theory. It explains Lesley's design because it means she is scared, but not dead yet. My guess as to the reason the ID cards only showed Duck as dead is because in this puppet world I guess the death of the human life still lingers, just takes a bit to catch up to you. Meaning that Duck in his human life probably died first. (relatively speaking since it was probably near the same time still)
Yellow’s ID’s eyes weren’t x’d out because he isn’t dead.
@@50Steaks68 Yellow guy isnt dead but *David* is.
@@Yipper64 im guessing that simply means that lesley doesn't want to aknowledge david's death, or simply because yellow technically hasn't died in the show
@@marbles3220 If that's the case it does make me wonder why she was able to come to terms with Duck guy's death. Or why she did at that moment.
@@Yipper64 it isn't revealed to us yet why and how duck and red guy fit in with lesley yet. future season plotlines
"You can't really live with your insides removed" sounds like something straight out of the lyrics to these DHMIS songs :D
this also could explain why duck had the hardest time fitting into the workplace. in his actual life he left his office job for the military
(also explains how he could’ve possibly forged those documents leading to several deaths)
Something I'd like to mention, the main three and Roy aren't the only ones we can see in the Mullhoven sequence, we also see the twins from Ep3, they're mainly visible when we see all of the neighbors in the house. Tbh the twins have always intrigued me since they are the closest we get to human puppets (note that they don't have unnatural skin tones, regular shaped noses and actually change outfits for the majority of the episode.)
I was about to point that too. Maybe the twins have some sort of significance to David in the after life? Or maybe he just remembers them because they witnessed his death? The idea I have right now is maybe the reason why the episode families happens is because Yellow guy/David was an only child, so seeing the twins made him sad because he wished to have a sibling to share experiences with. He may also be jealous of the twins maybe because he has a strained family life and needed someone else to confide in say when Leslie and Roy had arguments because it worried him/scared him. Just a speculation
@@kpopgoblin6590 or because his dad (Roy) was neglectful, he would spent a lot of time hanging out with them so much so that he was 'such a close friend, he was basically family.'
Great theory as always!!
My question would be: If Red Guy successfully re-enacted a scene in his life where his car breaks down near water, then wouldn’t we have seen him get a pound? I think the claim that Red Guy’s drowning is supported by the broken down car near the water is a bit more speculation than something we can jump straight to conclusions yet, but I believe you already addressed that. Definitely not saying it’s wrong though.
I think something interesting to look into though would be the scene where the train teacher is transforming into a bunch of different vehicles. One vehicle he transforms into is a boat sailing on water, and Red Guy is seen steering the boat. This may be the way Red Guy drowns. Something may have malfunctioned on the boat, and he ended up drowning on a lake.
Another thing to mention is that the train man also turns into Leslie’s car (like you’ve mentioned before) as well as a plane, which according to your theory in this episode, would relate to duck’s death.
So I believe the train man’s role here was to show us the three different ways of transport that our 3 main characters died in. Yellow Guy died by car accident, Duck died by a plane accident (and then suffered through dehydration), and Red Guy died in a boating accident and drowned on a lake.
Could definitely be the case. Even if Red Guy did die in his car, he would have had to drive into the lake to drown (he isn't one to give up, even with his pessimistic behavior) and this could also be why he didn't get a pound for this sequence. He never finished it.
@@RemGames Also "You don't die for ages" makes me think that maybe that is how he died, but it's not supposed to happen yet. Red guy is doing things out of order, and that's why he doesn't get a pound.
I thought the same thing! I'm glad you caught this!
Lamp also mentions the idea of reincarnation into your favourite animal, perhaps why duck’s face appears on the dog in the David scene, we also see red guy in that scene though so I don’t know how that would really apply to the story
maybe red guy wasn't dead yet. "You don't die for ages"
I just want to make a quick note on Roy in episode 3, family;
When he shows up to the family home at the end and then pushes yellow guy aside, I’m not sure if it’s necessarily out of malice. Once yellow guy is out of the house, you can hear Roy saying “yum yum” increasingly aggressively and the sounds of the family go from fervor over the food to screaming. This along with the bloody gore that hits the door makes me think that Roy wasn’t eating the food but instead was killing the family. Maybe he did this to protect his son or maybe he did this so that yellow guy could return to the house as the family kidnapping him would derail the show and he’s simply trying to keep things on track. All this followed by yellow guy’s response the next morning - “dad” said in a somber and reflective tone - makes me think he appreciated being rescued but was uncomfortable with the violence it brought, not that he was upset that his dad ditched him. None of this makes Roy a good dad but it does show how abusive parents may do things which in their mind are twisted expressions of love or care but are actually horribly abusive or traumatizing.
It called back to the original series to me as Roy enters following the family fervor for Grolton’s Chicken and the chicken bucket is the first thing he stares at as the camera focuses on it. Then he enters and has Yellow Guy step outside, begins his Yum Yums and once Yellow Guy can’t see anything he begins ripping the family apart. It wasn’t a Roy’s branded item like his cigarettes or his cereal it was a different brand and being showcased as a delicious product.
I love this theory. Being made into a puppet when you die, having to live in a pastel colored hell by forces outside your comprehension is an extremely cool idea
yeah so cool maybe you should go there
rem I love your theories and how you go on about really deep theories whilst the directors probably just thought 'haha funny yellow guy Roy'
I really can't tell which it is lmao. I can't figure out if they thought about every single detail and it was all meant to fall into place like this, or if this is the greatest coincidence that could have ever happened, but either way, I'm loving doing it!
Isn’t Roy in the first season?
I think a lot of this stuff you’ve pulled is like… wayy too literal for the show’s tone and these interpretations would likely take a lot of the charm out of it, but that the themes, horror implications and existential mystery can still be intentional and the parallels you draw interesting. Yellow might represent the son Lesley lost, Duck might have had aspirations of air service and the same unhealthy obsession with the WW2 RAF many British men of a certain age and political leaning have rather than a spitfire dogfighting, nazi-killing military record.
The realization that Leslie most likely caused her own child’s death hit me like a brick. Her scream of panic in the transport episode was already blood curdling enough on its own, but now it’s so much worse with context.
Does anyone else find it strange that everytime a version of the intro plays, Roy is staring through a hole in the wall when it transitions from the fridge to the hanging portraits? Also, when we meet Stain, their is a water bowl and a food bowl with the word "SCRUNTY" on it.
Rem: talks about how these 3 die in horrific ways
Also Rem: THAT'S AMAZING!
God I love these types of comments. Because I don’t hear this things when I’m filming or editing, but when people point it out I realize how f’d it really is and I just die laughing 😂
Who’s Rem?
@@dithotrava3645 Read the creator's name
Am I the only one who saw duck by human Roy
@@BottleofJarritos Ohhh no I meant it as an anime joke for whoever got it - I know it’s really random though 😂
Matpat: Hey Guys! The yellow guy might be david!!
Rengames: I solved the language and know exactly what's going on
ok fair but just know that most of this video was actually based around yellow guy being david and it would be completely incorrect if he wasn’t
@@dookieface7083 I'm saying how shallow Matpat's theory is compared to this
@@jackbergman4724 yes i understand and im not a matpat stan or anything but rengames used his theory to make his own
@Dookie face ren made his videos like a month before lately announced he was even gonna make a video
Matpat* autocorrect lol
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but remember how Duck is represented as a dog in the David flashback? If we see the plots of the Grolton and Hovris cartoons, there is a lot of moments featuring the ideas around hot temperatures and water, especially during their last appearance. The dog is denied water since it isn't his, and this may be another hint that Duck died of dehydration.
A smaller detail is that the man says that he has gum disease, and Red guy during the big day montage is shown to have some freaky-looking teeth. Just throwing that out there.
This is a huge stretch but I like to think that the whole Grolton and Hovris bit with Duck is more than just a gag. It could be an allusion to whom Duck is supposed to represent ‘in real life’, kinda like how yellow guy seems to be based off David. And if that’s the case, then who or what? A human or a pet?
Bruh I can’t please who is duck
It’s one thing for David being killed in a car accident, but for Lesley being in the drivers seat is probably EXTRA traumatizing
also we can see in the opening theme that roy has broken through the wall to try to get back into a position of power over the main three, possibly showing him trying to get back to lesley to eather try to get back with her or try to kill her so they would all be even.
I haven’t even really thought about Roy’s motives. This could definitely be true
@@RemGames One thing about Roy, is that even with his name on the credits, i don't believe he was ever in control of the stuff that happens in DHMIS, even in the original youtube series, is more that he was a part of it, and now with all the knowledge of the video, i think he is indeed part of what is going on but not in control, and want to escape as well, he did try to get in the car to escape that world with the other 3, and he influenced red guy to pull the plug to what he might believe will "destroy that world" (he doesn't try to stop him, he supports him, putting his hand on red guy's shoulder), which fails, the world doesn't get destroyed, just reset. So, Roy is more in control of himself than the other 3, and somewhat responsible for what happened (that's why his name is in the credit, not because he controls the world, but because he is responsible for the stuff that happened), but he is also a prisoner of this world, and wants to escape as well, which fits with the idea that all the puppets are trapped, roy would be as well.
One thing I can conclude about red guy is that he wasn’t satisfied with his life with Leslie. He says stuff like “we live in an actual nightmare” and tries to get away from the house multiple times
They all died because of transport and liquids.
I think that David got trapped under Lesley's car and drowned in oil, like in episode Dreams of the original series. Notice how the lamp is present in this episode, and we know he is connected to death.
My theory for Red Guy based on what you presented and what jobs were assigned in the Jobs episode is that in life Red Guy was kinda Duck's opposite. He probably achieved a fair bit early on in some corporation (maybe the bosses son), but it was just thrust upon him when he really was looking for it (hence why he was the boss for Peterson's And Sons And Friends Bits & Parts Limited. While he did well her never truly loved the job as it wasn't what he wanted to do. The job was a burden on his spirit and slowly crushed whatever passion he had leading to his monotone "I dont really care" disposition he's had as a puppet. He probably only continued with the job because he's one of the "sons" in "Peterson's And Sons And Friends Bits & Parts Limited" (pressure to continue the legacy put on him). The feeling that he should of been dead could of been because of his work leading to depression and even suicide because of the pressures of his everyday life leading to him taking his life (or not paying attention and it accidentally happening) via drowning in some sort of accident in a body of water with his car.
The reason I say he's Duck's opposite because in the show Duck's seems to always want to do something and with how his life is theorized it makes sense while Red Guy doesn't seem to want to do any of it, but goes along with it for the sake of his friends.
don't think that's the case, else he would have received a coin in episode 1
@@bobthellama6988 He wouldn't of (if I'm correct). That means he's done something out of character. Remember Yellow Guy didn't get a coin either
I want there to be a video about Red Guy and how he tries so hard to fit in wherever he ends up but continues feeling like the outsider. Even within this group of 3. Examples, wanting to move out, wanting a family, wanting to be anywhere but where he is.
Because the upper powers in this world really like messing with him and his want to be somewhere real.
They give him the family he asked for in episode 3 of season 2. But they are cold, callus, and don't acknowledge him. Meaning he is still alone. Despite getting what he wanted for a small time. It is not at all how he wanted it.
When he wants to have a more serious life and "leaves" the show in the finale of season 1. He gets a job. But he is surrounded by red people just like him. Which are all played by his actor. There is no way the upper ranks didn't plan all that. They break his spirit and then dump him back into the show. Almost like a punishment. And every time he let's himself try to breakfree he is punished and then reset. Like with episode 5 transportation.
Also since he is the one who seems to be constantly controlled by an actor this is quite sad. He is always surveyed by them. Always kept in line.
Which is why unlike Yellow Guy, it's alot harder for him to get things past the actors.
And Red Guy has been made aware of the actors. But the instant he realized it. They kill him by "blowing his mind", as a means of a reset.
If I may have missed anything that can either solidify, or make me reconsider this theory, let me know in the comments!
What id roy died too and lesley made a puppet version of him to fill the void, that would make a lot of sense 😮
@@sanstheskeletong he already said that in this video
@@sanstheskeletong I definitely think that Roy died and he was puppeted like everyone else
@@freddiemedley5580 Nonono, i mean that something was inside roy that made him different from the others, it would explain how he could get closer to the actors in the original series
@@sanstheskeletong oh ok that makes more sense, and as you said it dose somewhat explain why hes different from all the other puppets. sorry if I came across a bit patronising before.
Im not sure if anyone has noticed this but I was thinking of why theres only one version of yellow guy and there are 2 other versions of duck and red guy. I think its because if Lesley made these characters for her doll house and yellow guy is meant to symbolize her son, maybe she only made one yellow guy because she could think that maybe David cannot be replaced? Yet duck and red guy has tons of replacements and even multiple versions of them both (yet red guy only has the multiple versions not replacements). Its probably not that important but I just think it was a nice detail
If Duck wounds represent something in the show, than Yellow Guy wounds would represent something as well? and if it would, what it would be?
As for the repeating date of June 20th. I think it’s there to represent the day that the characters died. A reminder of what this date is and why it’s important. David, essentially, got run over by the car on June 20th. I also think that this tv series takes place before the UA-cam series, assuming this is all in the same universe, but I can go further into that if anyone else wants to hear.
The yt series takes place on June 19th so probably not taking place before
@@Mimi_ownsyouall but at the end of the UA-cam show, the characters changed colors and the setting is different, so that wouldn’t work. I mean, June 20, 2021 isn’t after June 19th, 2022, right?
maybe, taking into account the yt series, they died a day or two apart?
i think it might just be an achivement. Like hey were in the next day now, season 2/ season 1 tv!
mini theory: roy also wants out and tries to speak to the main 3 but every time the actors controls red guy, duck or david (yellow guy) to keep him out of the show because he is not apart of it anymore. but is trapped to keep after the main 3.
I doubt people would see this but... in the family episode yellow makes 2 calls. Now I haven't seen anyone talk about this but if you pay careful attention to the phone you will see that yellow calls someone and says 'Help me!' then calls the fast food place. A bit later(when Roy comes) he says 'Dad, I knew you'd come' (or something among those lines)
This leads me to believe that just maybe Roy didn't come for his own gain but to save yellow. When you when the scene with this context, it completely changes the meaning. Now this could be totally wrong but it would be nice to see someone covering the family episode with this context.
Also, if you think about it, Roy isn't included in the family. We can tell via the intro(Roy is watching in through a whole in the wall and not in the house. We only see his eye therefore it metaphorically he doesn't interact, just watch) and he only appears when he is called. Now I know in episode 5 Roy randomly appears but, as you said, Roy is a 'caretaker' maybe he wanted to stop them .
if we find out where the car is, someone should check the lake for any secrets aswell as the car and just the general area. This will help us with the lore A LOT hopefully
Roy cared more about the chicken dinner than David..
I feel like the way you "figured out" red's death is kinda just circumstantial, but otherwise good theory
So, the only problem with Duck is that when they’re going over the slide show in the Death episode you can hear YG go “…He didn’t do any of that.” Much in the same tone he goes “he wasn’t called that” when the mourners refer to Duck as David. Meaning likely that his studying martial arts, having a factory job, and military service should probably be taken with a grain of salt.
Maybe red guy throwing Roy out the car could represent Lesley throwing him out of her life
I like to believe that Leslie kinda created all of the puppet variants of these people after they died to heal her trauma in some sick way. This would mean that all of the three main cast members were close to Leslie somehow in their human life time so she created these characters and possibly the show itself to help heal the trauma of witnessing the deaths of these people who were in some way important to her. There’s some evidence out there that people have come up with to prove this possible theory. But I don’t think Yellow Guy’s id was technically wrong because it’s David specifically that died and not Yellow Guy. The id more than likely is only specifically for Yellow Guy himself and not his past life identity of David. So I believe all of the actual puppet versions of the cast is still living except Duck of course.
If so then why is there a floor above leslie? What has greater power than her?
@@Pink_sky82 maybe it’s symbolism for her own grief. The fact that she still hasn’t accepted the death of her son so her grief treats her like a slave. She’s put into this sense of coping that the tv show is against her own will. It’s like she’s a slave to her mind. The upper level is the truth that she’s yet to accept. Also I believe puppet variant of Duck died in the tv show reality because Leslie is done mourning the real life person that represents him. The grief for irl Duck is gone and dead.
Probably not that important, but I noticed that the pound has an image of Roy's face on it. both the one the Briefcase gives to Duck at the end of ep 1, and the one that appears on the book in ep 6. I think it's a neat little detail ^^
I may be wrong, but in the web series we see many parts of what could have been red’s life. The cast may be re-living red’s dream of making a kids show. I also would like to point out that it may not be correct, but red guy could have been their neighbor as seen in the flashback, this may explain how he already knows Roy. In red’s former life he could have also just been close with David’s family in general.
Something I've never really seen talked about was in ep4, when in David's brain, we are met with the brain friends, one of which who is said to be David's older brother. Afterwards, he commits su*cide, and is seen as a puppet afterwards holding hands with David. Just thought there must be more to it, considering he was the only one to have actually died in that episode, while all the other brain friends just left. Maybe another member of the family? Just thought it was interesting, probably worth looking into.
I love your theory! Might I suggest, maybe Roy in the other house across the street isn't him greeting the neighbours, but rather his new family. To further put strain on Lesley and David, I think Roy have left, maybe a divorce? Since in all the pictures, it's David and Lesley, alone. This can even explain why David and his dad has such a bad relationship. Maybe the family in Episode 3 is Roy's new family? Idk
Just wanna add this real quick to the council theory:
What if cult of Malcom is still a thing? I know the tv show and the yt series are two seperate things but yet we see his head appear on a shelf throughout the tv show. Also we know that the notebook and the clock are part of the cult, dressed in white robes. Maybe some higher members are called "The Council"?. And also what do the two have in common? They are teachers. Maybe the lamp has some deeper knowledge, but is yet not a part of the cult.
Man you nailed this, this is super solid. You went into stuff i had thought of such as all these photos being flashed at us having tons of meaning
A photo is literally worth a thousand words lol
@@dr_quickre3305 i sat there and thought, these photos HAVE to mean something everything they show us is attached, but i think our boi figures it out
As a few others have said, I feel like the part about Red Guy is a stretch. If it's part of the hidden story that Red drowned in that lake, it would have either been seen in the show or made more obvious in the instagram picture. Besides, I don't beleive there's enough evidence to explain how he ended up from the break-down to drowning, considering the car rboek down nowhere near water. I also take issue with the remark that the cards in the wallet are "just props for the show, so shouldn't be 100% trusted". Not only could that logic apply to what the card actually says, but also to a lot of other pieces of evidence for the theories, particularly the keyboard in Episode 4.
This whole thing is turning out *WAY* better than matpats extremely simple theory.
Edit: Wow y’all really liked this comment
It's not Matpat's theory, it's one that fans came up themselves way before his video came out. But that theory also makes more sense to me than this one.
@@leobe2104 this one is a bit complicated, but I think it will make more sense with the last episode
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No, they both get some things right, I'm not too sure yellow guy is David but represents him
Exactly. This theory assumes yellow guy is literally David when the show literally says he isn’t: “You’re not my real son”
Idea: what if, RG is not actually dead *yet*, but is in the process of dying? If he was comatose but slowly deteriorating, it could explain a lot of the imagery of the original UA-cam videos--whose themes seemed to always have him trying to escape or communicate with... something beyond the weird reality he was in. Hell, at one point he literally has a giant plug pulled out in his room--is life support being terminated? If RG dry-drowned after an accident on a lake (dry or secondary drowning takes place hours after the victim was initially submerged) and his brain was deprived of oxygen, then he could have easily be put into a coma. One from which he just...never recovered.
I've really enjoyed these videos you've made. They are well edited, visually interesting throughout, and the writing is thorough but the videos are short enough to not make my head spin lol
I would like to state a few observations and a theory, in regards to dead family and Red guy's death:
- Uncles are specifically described as being like fathers, but cheekier and in the distance
- The twins say that they got their uncle's filing cabinet, and iirc that he burned to death
- Said uncle is not X'd out like the other portraits, however, indicating he may have faked his death for a payout for his family
- Red is obviously unaware of the danger in that episode, which might parallel how he was in real life before his death
- Red's ID card saying that it 'thinks he drowned, something something water' is significant, it implies his death may have been more than just being drowned
- Red is clearly shown to be disliked by the people who are supposedly his family
all these statements put together make me believe that Red guy somehow had one connection or another to this 'uncle', and his death was not an accident but a targeted attack by either said uncle or a different party, who had caused his car to break down and then drowned him in the nearby lake
I also personally like the idea that Red was part of the family before he died, but more as an adopted member so-to-speak, given he was:
- Shown to be a neighbor in the community
- Already feels like he's not really related (biologically I'd assume) to the other two, which causes some difficult feelings
- He had been 'discarded' by his family during the photo shoot
OH! Maybe he was shot near the water and then thrown in the lake and drowned? I don't know I'm rambling now XD
Again, great videos! Looking forward to the next one ^^
While you may have a point with them all dying in some connection to Transportation, I believe that the conclusions made are not as strong as something else that I think we are missing from Episode 5. I believe that their deaths, if all need to be caused by the same thing, at the same time, in different locations, is actually Independence or their own Decisions. So for as many paragraphs I write (and this is the second time I am writing this because UA-cam Autoplay-ed a video and I lost my original draft), we will dive into why Independent Decision Making makes better sense of their Cause of Death and why it also fits the overall theme and events of the show.
Firstly, I want to address the very VERY small elephant in the room. The Teachers. Mr. Choo Choo, as I will be calling him, is the first Teacher to die before finishing his Lesson. Some can say Mr. Coffin (yes I am calling him this too) from Episode 2 died before finishing his lesson, but his lesson finished when the funeral finished. His work was done and he was ready to let Duck rot in… him… Anyway, Mr. Choo Choo failed to distract our trio for the duration of “Playtime” (NOTE: Playtime is what I will refer to an Episode’s Duration, since being in the attic showed us Lesley, playing with our trio in the Doll House. Also because typing “Episode’s Duration” is longer than Playtime, and it is eerily cute too). Each episode has our cast distracted with something until the end of Playtime to stop them from breaking free and gaining awareness of their situation. Red Guy was the character that Lesley was trying to keep in check, hence why Transportation was the subject of our episode, because Yellow Guy and Duck were complacent since their Reset but Red Guy was more erratic. We know this to be an occurrence because in Episode 1: Jobs, Duck was the one unsatisfied with doing “Nothing” all day, which led to them learning about JOBS. You could argue that Red Guy was then uncomplacent with not doing anything all day, but that is then distinguished with how he easily became the Boss, and Duck was our Main Character since he was the “Rouge” out of the three. Another example is Episode 4: Friendship, where Yellow Guy is the only one who is beginning to hate Computer Day and how his friends treat him, which causes him to retreat into his mind and not be functional. He no longer wishes to be with those in the Doll House. However, unlike Duck and Yellow Guy, Red Guy’s Teacher dies before Red Guy reaches the end of Playtime and thus is still Rouge. And he still craves to leave the Doll House. (1/?)
Now we get into why Episode 5: Transportation is actually a disguise to hide its actual lesson. that lesson being Independent Decision Making. As we discussed earlier, Lesley does not want our trio to go Rouge, hence Resets and Teachers being a thing that keeps them in check. However, Playtime is when our trio is allowed some form of sentience or free will, and if the Teachers don’t distract them from making their own decisions on what to do, then they will begin to find ways of leaving and/or going against the system. Thinking for oneself is seen as taboo in the DHMIS series that is really apparent throughout the series. In ANY LESSON, if our trio decides to do something they simply want to do or say whatever they believe, they get punished for it. Like choosing the color green, painting a clown, believing time is human perception, playing with cards, choosing your own meal to eat, not wanting to enter the funny internet room. wanting to leave the house, etc etc etc. You get the idea. This can be alluded to a possible theory of PUNISHMENT in the afterlife and that our poor puppets, after dying due to making a decision that cost them their life, are now in an afterlife where they are not allowed to think for themselves because the last time they did that, it cost them their lives. The characters seem to be somewhat aware of this, hence them going rouge, mostly it being Duck and Red who fluctuate the most on the ROUGE METER and Yellow Guy being the most complacent when it comes to the episodes. Which is a wonderful transition into our next topic. Which is breaking down each character and why Making their own Decisions lead to their death.
Yellow Guy/David - Yellow Guy is the easiest to break down due to how much information we have of him. He is air-headed, carefree, and childish. He thinks blissfully and full of ignorance. I would not call him stupid, since he clearly has intelligence, its just he hasn’t changed his batteries, but he is simply clueless of whats going on around him. Now, we know is Cause of Death, run over by a car. However, it is why he got run over which links everyone together. That being, the decision to follow the bird. In Episode 5: Transportation, Yellow guy is outside, presumably waiting for his Dad to get done visiting the neighbors, or about to greet his mother when she gets home since she is on the way back home from work or some other errand. He is met with the Father of this town’s church, and is gifted a bird. Due to him being possibly a young, easily distracted boy, he made the decision to not look both ways and follow the bird across the road, causing him to be hit by Lesley’s car. Now, Yellow Guy, being the smartest of the group, but having some sort of memory problem due to the batteries being old, has very interesting moments in Episode 5, like seeing his smarter self in the mirror or being able to relive a memory for longer than a minute. But in this episode, Red Guy and Yellow Guy are very aware of their situation, while Duck is sort of… There because he needs to be. Red guy says they should go somewhere else on their own, while Yellow Guy is very quick to say No and that “...We don’t have the transport man… It’s just us three. We can’t just do stuff ourselves… right?” This shows Yellow Guy is very against the concept of Free Will since he knows that bad things happen when you divert from the system of how things work in The Doll House. And as we know, Yellow Guy is the one who is the most complacent, since in the UA-cam series, he is the last remaining member to survive to episode 6 in the Doll House. Red Guy disappeared, and Duck was put in a can. What I also want to point out, and this may be a little graphic, is a study made about this sort of child behavior. When a child does something and is punished for it over and over again with increasing levels of intensity (such as abuse) they become scared to do said thing. This theory or behavior was tested, albeit one of the worst tests I have ever had to listen to. It went like this: [An infant/young child is allowed to play with toys in an enclosed room with speakers. However, when picking up a certain toy, a loud noise will play, alarming and causing the subject to cry from said noise. This is repeated over and over again until when SEEING the toy, the subject will become afraid of the toy, that even touching it will cause the noise to trigger and make them cry. The subject has learned, through punishment, what toy not to pick to avoid further punishment.] So, after the constant onslaught of gore, tragedy, and insanity after witnessing the punishment of doing something that diverts from the teacher’s lesson, as well as doing something of his own free will that ended him up dead, Yellow Guy has become afraid of doing things for himself. He is afraid of Making Decisions because it is the root cause of why he is here in this inescapable nightmare. (2/?)
Duck - Now, Yellow Guy was a lot to break down, and as we continue, it will get shorter since Duck and Red Guy have way less info than Yellow Guy. But Duck has some things we can still pick apart. His behavior is arrogance, narcissism, possible OCD, sass, and stubbornness. His life, from what we can tell, is pretty successful. He goes to college, rises through the ranks of his business job, and eventually goes into the airforce as his dream. Now, what decision he made that led to his death has to do with dehydration, since we know his CoD as well. But how can we link Dehydration to a decision he made? Well, once again in Episode 5: Transportation, we have our little show called Grolton & Horvis, where Horvis (or the Dog, since the Human refers to the dog as Horvis) didn’t bring any water. Water bottles or flasks are either stored in your G-Suit or Helmet bag, which in Episode 2: Death, we can see Duck not wearing either. Either be it arrogance of thinking he could fly a plane without a G-Suit and Helmet, or even just not thinking he needs water is what I lean my theory on that being the Decision that causes him to end up dying. Being in a pressurized flight tank can be exhausting, as well as being in a metal tin can. You’ll become sweaty, or even dehydrated, but because Duck probably said “I don’t need that, I will be fine.” and didn’t have any water, he ended up getting dehydrated mid flight, passed out, and crashed his plane, causing his death. This also is supported when in Episode 2: Death, he seems to laugh at the fact he died of dehydration, as if he can’t believe such a silly thing would happen to him. He died by his arrogant behavior and making the decision to not pack water with him up in the air. And due to his arrogant decision, he is stuck in this inescapable nightmare. (3/?)
Red Guy - He is the hardest to figure out by far, but is also the saddest to think about too. In terms of making decisions, I believe he is the one who makes the most drastic decision, and dies the saddest death. I believe he makes the decision to take his own life.
Now before I continue, please continue this at your own discretion, Suicide is a heavy topic, and I do not wish to cause anyone to be upset/triggered by said topic. I will be touching the subject lightly as a possibility, so take my words with a grain of salt.
Red Guy can be seen as laid-back, dismissive, cynical, and repressed/depressed. He is the one hiding his emotions the most, not really speaking loudly most of the time or showing any sort of change in tone. He enjoys doing nothing, being relaxed. However, he has become stir crazy, since even doing nothing and listening to a boring list made by Duck can drive one mad. He finally wants to go out and change his life, wants control of his life again. But he can’t… At least, not for long. We do not know anything about Red Guy’s life, even the video was having a hard time grasping what he could have possibly caused Transportation to lead to his death, via car accident careening him into a lake and drowning. But I think there is more to it. Red Guy driving the car and it breaking down isn’t that literal, but yet it is symbolic of his own life. Red Guy in Episode 1: Jobs is against getting a job and he simply wants to sit and do nothing for the rest of his life. He seems content with it, but this probably didn’t go well with his family. They probably hated him for it, called him a deadbeat most likely. But it probably was due to a lack of motivation or not knowing what he wants to do with his life. When he reluctantly gets an office job, as shown in Episode 6 of the UA-cam Series, he has trouble adjusting to the environment and is outcast amongst his co-workers. He feels disconnected, and no matter how much he tries to do something he thinks is… CREATIVE, he is shunned and booed for trying to do that. He is having trouble pleasing others, and is becoming dissatisfied with his life. Getting a job makes him miserable, but not having one makes his family angry. And by proxy, makes him miserable as well. He is sort of trapped. No matter what he does, he feels he has no control over his life because he is only trying to please others. It is also probably why he is so hell bent on being with a Family, because to him, a Family is someone who probably cares about you, but during that family photo scene in Episode 3: Family, we possibly get a glimpse of some internal, repressed memories or feelings of his past family. The comment of him smiling and that he should stop probably alludes to how Red Guy doing things on his own is something not approved of, and he should do what the Family wants. No longer making decisions for himself. Now, why the destination is important is something to digest. A lake by a junkyard. You can easily dispose of a car at a junkyard and no one would be none the wiser. And a lake is also an easy way to dispose of bodies. Red Guy, feeling trapped by not being able to have control of his life and that no matter what he does, he will never be satisfied, makes the decision to go to a junkyard, dispose of his car, and take his own life by diving into a lake to sleep in a watery grave. It is also probably why in Episode 2: Death, he is surprised that Duck is the one to die, probably because he thinks that out of the three, he would be the most likely to die due to being so willing to take his own life. But because of all the amnesia in the show, why he gets confused that he drowns can disprove this. However, I would like to point out that in Episode 5: Transportation, they do end up somewhere. The Junkyard with the Lake. How would Red Guy even know how to get there? Because he has been there before, he was on auto-pilot to his destination the whole time. He is shaken up when the trio gets there, you can hear it in his voice. A character who we have never seen so emotionally vulnerable before, finally is because he went to the place where he made the Decision to take his own life. And due to making this decision, he is stuck in this never ending nightmare.
Every character has ended up dying due to a decision they made that is linked back to their own life. Yellow Guy and Lesley, Duck and the Military, and Red Guy and his Family. And if we need a date of when they all died, everything links back to 19. Or 196. In the UK, how dates are written are Day, Month, Year. So their death could of all happened on the 16th of June of an undisclosed year. But this is why I believe that instead of all of them having some mode of Transportation being what links their death, but rather Free Will and Decision Making is the actual link, and what ties everything together in the show.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I am gonna go rest my brain. (4/4)
With this theory- Leslie could be grieving and it could be a part of her that died? Maybe that's why she's not entirely human or puppet.
One bit of info that I think can further this is when the three argue about their roles in Family. Duck claims he’s the dad but Red says “if anyone’s the father figure, its me” and if we know him and yellow are brothers, it could mean that Red was more of a father to Yellow then Roy when they were alive. Meaning Red was his older brother, and way older due to him not being present when yellow died (went away for college?), which would explain why he’s taller and generally is put as an older person (was the boss in jobs). It also explains Roy’s ignorance of Yellow, as while he’s Yellow’s dad he seemingly doesn’t care for him (evidence you went over), which is why Red says he’s the father figure.
My point is that this could lead to more concerning Red before he died, as we very obviously know the least about him before his death. Maybe it had something to do with him getting the devastating news that his brother had died, maybe connecting it to how he drowned in a lake.
A couple a pieces that confuse me is that if duck died while stranded from a plane crash, why is he pictured as present in the David crash sequence? My only idea is that he had already died at that point (why he’s a duck now but Roy is still human) and there in spirit? Or reincarnated as the dog, which would mean he died again that same day as the dog. Idk this part confuses me
I think that Red Guy's *real name* is Jason. During Episode 5, Transport, in the beginning Duck is taking inventory. When Duck swats the fly you can see that the clipboard is a prop with every item on the front page embroidered in. As duck is taking a visual inventory and is generally a neat person that doesn't like things to rock the boat isn't it weird that one of his most recent items, the dead fly he just killed as it flew around the kitchen, was at the very top of the list followed by several other items he would've already seen and written down? Duck simply shrugs and goes "Another dead fly" but there's no indication of a first dead fly in the room.
I think that it's more likely when Duck says "I'm taking my visual inventory, making sure everything is here" he isn't writing down what he sees with that pen he's just using it as a prop while he goes down the list and makes sure everything is there and in order. "One dead fly" was written by the creators who hold the puppet strings and Duck had to make sure there was a dead fly in the room for his visual inventory. Duck has never written the list, it was just with him at the start of the episode prior to anyone speaking because the creators wanted it there. This is why Duck believes it to be a new dead fly because he believes he's already written down "One dead fly" because it was already on the list.
At the very bottom of the list is "One Jason". If Duck is doing a visual inventory, then a Jason is in the room. If Yellow Guy's real name is "David" and Duck isn't including himself in the inventory, then Red Guy's real name must be Jason.
EDIT: This is unrelated to Jason, but I also believe that Duck is David's grandfather or something to that degree. My evidence for this is a bit shaky though. In the original DHMIS 6 episodes, Episode 2 "Time" has a few moments where David takes the opportunity to share information about himself/his life. He isn't normally smart but when he gets very into a song like during the beginning of Episode 5 of Season 2, "Traversal", he manages to subconsciously dredge up information he shouldn't otherwise have access to with the state of his batteries. He shares with the audience he's friends with his dad Roy (or at least, he believes himself to be) and then during the next section of the song "Time went new and got old like history, and *stuff from the past went into a mystery*" If we know that it is Lesley singing or playing the songs that the characters hear each episode, then she believes part of her past is still a mystery to her as well. Then David sings "An old man died" Pointing up at an old man laying in a casket, like Duck in Season 2 Episode 2, and to the left of the old man is a golden coin with a part of Duck's Name symbol etched into it. The straight line, the half circle, and the dot in the middle. It's missing the small square symbol that rests next to the straight line and between the horns of the half circle. Then Tony/Lesley very quickly change the subject and try to distract "But look at this computer!" Like it's information Yellow Guy isn't supposed to remember. Information about another family member of his, like his dad. Except this was his grandfather.
i am REALLY surprised that no one noticed that in the opening at that "its him and you and me" part, red guy points to himself when they say you.
I think there’s a difference between the dolls of red, yellow and duck and the actual person or thing they represent.
Yellow represents David, David is dead, but Yellow guy isn’t.
Duck represents the gift given to David like a bird or a pet, duck keeps dying and the original is dead, but I think Leslie has the backups because she just replaces them when they die and yellow/David can’t see the difference between them. It’s like when you’re a kid and your pet dies, your mom tries to get a pet that is just like yours to not see her son sad.
Red, well, he’s alive. I don’t know what he would represent.
The family photos in episode 3 (The ones duck has) show Lesley's life
In episode one Duck says he wants to make a digital currency based around respect, and in the same episode the vending machine tells him that he needs to pay for the stuff ( presumably with the token ) but at the end he gets the respect token that he talked about wanting to make. This could mean 2 things, 1, that the pounds that the lamp was talking about aren't pounds but are actually tokens based off of the person that they give the token to, or 2, the coin means nothing and is just a funny gag. you may believe what you want but I'm just tossing my personal ideas out there
I love MatPat dhmis theories, but yours is just SO good.
Thank you so much! I think there's a lot of communal theories for DHMIS that all work. MatPat's is a piece of it, mine is a piece of it, etc. And when bringing them all together, we get the full story. It's very hard to solve the entire show on ones own, but if working as a community, everything slides into place
Duck died of dehydration and got his organs removed, tho, later on in the coffin he says he has to pee and eventually does (a lot), but to be able to do that he would need to have his bladder (but his organs are supposed to be removed) also he said he drank a milkshake before and thats why he really needed to go, which also kinda contradicts that he died being dehydrated (in that specific moment). So his dead in that episode has to be definitely a reenactment, which he fail to do right since everything went wrong and he even returned home. But idk what to do with this info or what it means
Another theory I haven’t seen mention is that red guys last name is Peterson
Red guy's death is a GIANT bloody stretch. You've almost entirely disregarded the fact that the card says "You don't die for ages", which is in fact very much an extreme contradiction to a lot. Plus, you think red guy drowned behind a dump because... There's water. In a photo. On a twitter account. In a quite litteraly completely random dump, not even the one from the show. That's a giant stretch.
Waited nearly 2 weeks for this and it was worth it, ty Rem
The family wallet only shows Duck being dead in the episode "Death". But that's because that's the person the episode is centered on. I don't think we can extract metadata from the wallet and just can't make any real connections there. In fact, there's you conjecture several times here. We don't know Red gets stranded nor that Duck does either. We do know that the wallet says Red dies in a lake, so maybe Red drove his car into the lake. In any case, we need more evidence to be gathered.
This is such a fantastic theory and series, thank you for all of your hard work!
But, if Red Guy called Yellow Guy "brother", doesn't that mean they're brothers? Probably with a big age difference, since David died when he was a kid while Red Guy was old enough to have his own car when he died.
Just ended watching all parts of these series and couldn't wait for another part and you uploaded new video and made me happy ngl
I have no evidence but i want to thank you cause i could never do this and listening to you talk makes me excited for more
I appreciate that so much, thank you!
I believe that we could actually fit this theory into the old series pretty well. It could help explain alot of it and give us the answer as to what Red guy's life was like, that he was an office worker who had dreams of making a show, but that his show was then overtaken by commercialization and product placement and so he called it all off. Perhaps, considering how dark this show loves to be with it's themes, he even became depressed after this and purposefully drove into the lake. Although that is just my personal opinion on how this could fit into the old series without having to fully retcon alot of it.
I think Red's life is shows in the Dreams episode, he lived a boring life, pursued a career in comedy meeting Roy in the process and (the parts in >< is a theory) >going onto make a children's show (blue red guy, green yellow guy and red duck on july 20th) with Roy's supervision<
Red was shown to be unhappy with his life and, I don't know how to put this gently but I think he might have intentionally driven his car into a lake to "escape it" the same way he tries to escape the house, he doesn't fully get to the lake in the series because his car broke down (hence no pound).
I also think his attempts to escape the show might stem from this, it's common for survivors of accident based suicides (jumping off things, car crash drowning ect) to report regretting it as it's happening. I think he drive himself into the lake then as he drowned tried to escape the car because it wasn't what I wanted.
Especially since his Character seems most uncomfortable with his death, he's trying to escape, Duck was willing to give his life to the military so he is indifferent, and David/Yellow died without having the chance to know he did so he's stuck a bit unaware and stupid in death. When he wises up that might be the version of David that survived the accident, a good student with good potential who went on to be smart and successful, sadly cut down in his youth after his curiosity killed him.
I also thinks the story would make sense for Red having offed himself, maybe he didn't get the show going like that particular theory suggests, maybe he stayed in that job with mean coworkers and a family who didn't like him and cut him out.
He escapes his death when the car breaks down which according to the laws of family would prevent the others from dying and breaks the whole afterlife world, shoving them into the real living world of purgatory until Leslie brings them back, knowing that attempt wasn't successful in bringing back her son.
Maybe that's why thr next episode she gives David/Yellow the book, she saw how close they got at thought it was the time to trust them with it.
Also, Leslie may have attempted suicide after David's death and her divorce but was unsuccessful. Maybe she's in a coma hense her between puppet and human appearance, this show could just be Lesley and her brain failing as she dies after her attempt, but the more supernatural "This is the bad place!" type of theory would be much more in tune with the story.
4:50 he says “there’s definitely water” Not *unintelligible* ..with water like the subtitles said. I feel like that could open up another red guy death possibility, involving water of course
Great theory, I really enjoyed this.
I'm not sold on Duck's identity though. What we know about Duck's life from that screen was supposed to be about David, not Duck. Also, Duck seems to have no connection to the family in this theory, although admittedly I have no clue what red guy's connection would be either.
I think Duck has been echoed as a dog for a lot of the series. David has a dog that resembles Duck, and in the show that they watch (I forget the name but it's always on the TV), the 5th DHMIS episode has Duck watching the show in the car where the guy and the dog are really hot, but the dog doesn't get any water because he didn't bring any. Makes me think the dog might die of thirst, just like Duck did. Also a side note, but in the family episode Duck refers to David as the pet, which maybe alludes to the idea that the family does have a pet (although he also called himself the dad so this could also just be me looking too far).
Curious if anyone has any thoughts on this, it's not something I've looked into deeply so it could be easy to debunk for all I know. Can't wait for the next theory!
"a family is a bunch of people that die on the same day in the same style of accident, but in different locations." Basically, they didn't need to be related in the real life, they were grouped together in the afterworld by their method and time of death
I feel they actually arent dead but they are like symbols for lesleys family as a way for her to grieve.
Maybe lesley in a way is a roy - like father figure to another more human like family version of our main cast.
I just feel like this is actually really really close to the real lore but its off somewhere somehow. It feels complicared and overexplaining and underexplaining other things
No Lesley says to yellow guy : YOU’RE NOT MY REAL SON! Which means, your theory about Roy being David’s dad is wrong
Your videos are so good man. Matpat finally covered the show and just talked about the most basic thing we've known for ages. Glad you're digging deeper
i know people are saying youre the new matpat, and i agree. the way you state subjective interpretations as irrefutable facts (roy pushing yellow guy because he "loves the other family more" and duck's military experience being one of the final moments of his life)
the theory is good, but roy definitely killed that other family. it's also implied duck is a senior citizen with a past of being in the military. specifically, he grew old after coming back from it
MatPat watched Rem’s first episode and said I’ve got my theory, thanks I didn’t ask for a recap! REM IS THE GOAT!!!
I think the theory is pretty solid but I have trouble with red guy's dead. Everyone else fits perfectly and he... Just drowns in a lake because his car malfunctioned? I think he may be alive or maybe he's dead is not clear yet. But everything else is actually really well done. Congrats on 15k
I think we're going pretty all in on the idea that Lesley is Yellow Guy's mother. Lesley is suggested to have built or been involved in building "all this", although she avoids a direct answer, and regards Yellow Guy as "one of her favourites", so I think the most we can interpret from "your not my real son" is that Lesley is in fact involved with the creation of the characters in some capacity, but holds even her favourite creations at arms length, and doesn't think of her creations as her children. As far as the scream when Yellow Guy is struck by the car, Lesley is shown to be orchestrating or at least curating the events to some extent, and I think it's relevant that she presents the events as a children's show. Combined with her attire and piano, I think all we know is that she sees herself as an entertainer, even a performer, and judging by the themes of the show and her appearance, I don't know that we're necessarily meant to trust her or her performance.
We're getting distracted from the real smoking gun here; why does Yellow Guy keep insisting "Grolton is the dog" to everyone? He sees it as a twist that Red Guy didn't pick up on, and conspiratorially whispers it to Duck as if it's information he needs to watch the show. Yellow Guy is often shown to know the larger truth even if he doesn't fully realize that is the truth. One of these boys is the dog, I'm telling you.
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of these things that the creators of the show put into the series are red herrings to create endless speculation to ensure a Season 2. They saw how much people speculating and theorizing was good for their web series and got their chance, so they added little symbols, phrases, objects, characters, etc. to make sure people would demand a 2nd season.
While I really enjoy this theory series, there is one big thing I don't quite understand about this Death Theory:
In season 1 we learn that Red Guy was the original host of the show, and Roy was the business guy making him able to start it.
If we keep on with this story that they were all part of a family, died and are now in the afterlife, we would need to throw this backstory out of the window. Or is there a way to connect it?
You're making Game Theory look like Conspiracy Theory lmao. Very well crafted series you've done and im so excited for the final video ✨️
You say that there is a connection between the car accident, and Red Guy drowning in the lake? I feel like there would be more pointers, if that were the case.
I'd like to point out, that Manny was complaining that he had no raisins, and what did it take, for him to magically produce a cup of raisins? It was the situation of "ChooChoo is dying from eating raisins", then we see him vomit up the special drink, that he was told was something ChooChoo needed to function. And he picks up Roy from off the side of the road, a character who has previously been known as a jailor of the characters in the show. Seems like Manny is doing everything he can to become the new jailor, and intro 5 tells us Robin is surprised/exhausted, Harry is vocalising his frustration with living a nightmare, but Manny is just happy to be back "learning with the guys (again)". Yes, I think Manny is in his villain-arc.
Then at the dump, Robin does "visual inventory", while examining Manny, he describes: "one bag of meat", then proceeds with "one cooking fire, one deadly weapon, one soft skull..." and then Manny is startled as he turns to realise what is happening. But then Lesley is like: "Yeah, no, it won't be that easy, guys!" and does the reset.
Harry would seem to confirm, that he is a brother to Manny, meanwhile Robin sings: "in many ways, I am my own family", suggesting all the Robins "die on the same day, in the same style of accident, but in different locations".
When i heard Lesley say that yellow guy isn't her son i immediately thought
Hold up so ROY AND HER ARE TOGETHER
I feel like if they escaped permanently and just continued to live, Red Guy and Duck would adopt Yellow Guy no question.
i agree with a lot of this, but i actually think we can infer more about red than we think. He's in Mulhoven too, and his entire character from the beginning of the show has been wanting to break out and find something beyond this. I think he was desperately unhappy living in a tiny town and wanted to get out, but for whatever reason was unable to. having a brother is INCREDIBLY important to yellow, as his "imaginary older brother" has shown up at least four times in the show that WASN'T in yellow's head, but the fact that he's so prominent in his head at all shows how much that means to him. And red straight up calls him "brother". I think they really were brothers in life, but david's death destroyed him. and well, there was a lake nearby....
that would actually explain why he didn't get a pound after the car crashed in ep 5
Yellow guy shy older brother puppet appears in wakey wakey, i'm pretty sure wakey wakey is not canon to dhmis, but who knows, maybe there's a connection there.
Okay, maybe it's that they all died at the same time from 'drowning'. Duck didn't have to die on an island, you can technically die at sea from dehydration, but then he slipped under. So "drowning" in his final moments while technically dehydration was the main cause of death. Red guy is more on the nose with drowning and Yellow Guy could "drown" from blood.
So excited to watch this, buzzin
i think ducks insides being removed may be like a reminder of episdoe 5 of the og series, where we see a can eating his intestines and guts
So, random thought. What if red guy is the one who ran over David? I mean, it’s using the same car he was driving in this episode and it could explain his actions in the transportation episode. After hitting David, he kept driving to run away from his actions until the car broke down. At which point, the guilt caught up witch him, causing him to commit suicide by drowning. This could explain the scene he was replicating in the transportation episode, as he is trying to get away from the place his actions would effect him the most, and why his ID card says he doesn’t die for ages since it is a notably longer time from duck’s and David’s deaths. Does that work out or is there something I’m missing?
Interesting theory but in the town flashback red guy was standing off to the side in the house next to yellow guys, he’s his neighbor, he wasn’t in the car
@@msbriannaamour that would also imply that the duck lived with Roy and hasn’t left in his airplane yet and if he died of dehydration and died at relatively the same time as the other two, he would have needed to leave days before then so there shouldn’t be a reason that he would be in Roy’s house at the time.
@@firstwaddledee9182 I think duck lived with Leslie, Roy and David as the family pet, he might have just died from neglect but then again if that's the case I don't know why he would have a backstory with a plane, also it doesn't make sense that Duck was sitting right there in the flashback as well as Red if they all died at the same time
@@msbriannaamour yeah, so either something needs to change with the theory or that isn’t a reliable source of evidence.
Here’s something I wanna say which probably doesn’t make any sense but oh well,
Instead of Lesley having one son,she had two which was Yellow and Red (Red being Lesley’s oldest son while yellow is her youngest obviously) Both dying by someone else. My belief on this is because how the characters are treated…Red and Yellow are usually the ones the show focuses on. I believe the characters represent who died that day which was a driver duck (represent on a bird lead to yellows death),The Oldest son Red (again, one of the many character focuses and him in the YT series with Roy/ Yellow’s Dad), and David Yellow (Who’s the one that started all this) That’s just my take personally
I think you’ve incorporated a lot of red herrings and nightmare nonsense into your theory. The “pound” that briefcase flings at Duck could easily be the digital currency that he was obsessing over. It even looks similar to the digital currency. Or it could just be a reward for his hard days work.
The British pound coin came into circulation in 1983. The circular design of the pound was phased out in 2017, with the new mints having straight edges and a silver colored center. So that coin, if it is a felt version of a pound, would have been from 1983-2016. The biplane that Duck supposedly flies looks much older than the 1980s, it’s closer to WW1 era. In the show, the technology is from a variety of eras and Duck isn’t confused when using modern technology (the internet, crypto currency, streaming platforms).
If Duck “got it right” like the lamp suggests, what did he get right exactly? Getting mauled by the Carehound? Getting hot black water lasagna spewed onto his hand? Creating a grey slime creature to be shredded? It’s all nonsense.
The joke about the lamp is he is confusing an already confused Yellow Guy with conspiracies about subterranean overlords then he just ends the conversation like it’s nothing. I seriously doubt he has any insider knowledge or is a crucial character. Why would this random lamp with 3 or 4 lines throughout both shows know the secret and share it with Yellow Guy. No other teacher tries to clue them in, every one of them just sings them fake values and brings misery. They are just there to torture the trio because it’s funny.
This feels more like a stretch than previous episodes. The issue in that regard, I think, is that a lot of things overlap, and it seems almost random which are and aren't seen as important or 'story canonical' for the sake of explaining the lore. Like, the fact the ID card says Red Guy doesn't die for ages, doesn't matter. The fact that duck says he dies from dehydration and is seen in a plane as well? That means he crashed on a deserted island and thus died from dehydration, because a family must die at the same time from similar accidents. But Lesley isn't dead, and she's David's family. There's just a lot of things taken as factual explanations here that just really feel like a stretch.
I have an idea about how Roy died. In episode 5 we see Roy get thrown out of a car maybe that is how he died. It would also make sense because david Said that a family die in the same style of accident but in diffrent locations and Roy's death involved a veichle Just like the others deaths.
If ya listen to the train man, his drink is made from the "remnants of the ancient ones" and that he needs it to live. There is also "Black juice" that is also eerily similar during the work episode as well
Don't Hug Me I'm Dead
What if Duck was a high executive of Petersen bits and parts? Or Mr. Petersen himself, a despicable boss self-made man that started from the bottom and rose to the top by crushing everybody? I could see this character firing a long time employee for a work injury, at least more than Red Guy.
Red Guy seemed rather to be an everyday suburban man, and a bored one in the process. He also seems quite lonely and not successful in his social interactions with fellow coworkers, customers on the phone, nor family members. When he cares and try to help, he ends up causing more trouble (when he gives raisins to the car resulting to its death).
theres a little contradiction, beacuse if red guy died as you said he would earn a pound beacuse he recreated a part of his live
2:15 probably duck without guts is a reference to how he was eaten by the can in first season
Wait so how did Red guy die? His car broke down and he just walked into the lake and drowned?
He was in a bridge and lost control of his car, causing it to fall of the bridge into the lake and he couldn’t get out of his car and drowned
I didn't notice at first, but that's really interesting with the lamp's theory. However, I think when he mentions "getting it right", I don't think he's referring to Lesley's story, rather the council's (aka Becky and Joe/the show's creators). It's also interesting that the lamp isn't dead/in the "wherever Red Guy and Duck was" with the other dead/trapped teachers. (Is it just me, or did they call it "the box"?)
Another thing of importance that was COMPLETELY GLOSSED OVER, and I'm quite surprised really, is that one of Yellow Guy's imaginary friends is a kite named Satur-David! so Yellow Guy, David, and Lily and Todney, who are shown to be Yellow Guys neighbors in ep. 5's Mullhoven scene must've all been friends at some point or something...
I think the biggest problem/trap with this video's theory is that you are taking Lesley and the story we see as a reliable narrator. But we can't, because we already know Lesley is being controlled in some way, AND we know she is very limited with how much influence she actually has in the lives of the three guys.
I think the simplest explanation with Lesley and David is that Lesley was the one who accidentally ran over her own son, David. She didn't die for real, but she's no longer alive. I think she feels tremendous grief over killing her own son, and the only solace she has is in this twisted escapist fantasy where she can always watch over her surrogate son, forever.
In my past comment/sub-theory to one of Rem's previous videos, I suggested that Lesley willingly let herself be used by the "Council". I think the best deal she got was getting to "make the show" (in some capacity of catharsis/healing), but one of the stipulations is that she can't interfere/interact directly with them, no matter what. (Again, that's why she couldn't save Yellow Guy when he was at the other house with L and T.) I still think my theory holds up better than this (no offense intended), and I think it gives a much better explanation to Red Guy, Duck, and Roy.
Ive never seen someone reach this far lmaoooo