Archer Artillery System,the Fastest Howitzer in The World British Soldier reacts
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The Ukrainians say they are usually on target with the first shot, but occasionally will have to use 2 shots.. They refer to it as sniper artillery..
It was nice to hear it is working as intended in a real war
Lol, do you really think that Swedes build a vehicle that can’t handle the terrain? 70% of Sweden is woods and mountains and up in the north there is like no roads at all.
And 21 rounds is good and since the loading truck only need 8-10 minutes to reload. So that is not a problem. The problem is for those poor bastard that in in the way when 3 trucks fire 18 long-range shells that strike simultaneously in one area.
25 % of Sweden is wetlands, march . 65 % is forests. And yes , we built for terrain of all sort.
21 from an internal magazine is super impressive. And it can be reloaded in a few minutes at a safe location.
The Archer isn't really made for sustained fire, but for precision strikes with high mobility. Hit and run. If you want sustained fire, just park your towed artillery in place.
Says who ? Are you an expert on Swedish Archer canon ?! You haven't even seen it in real life So why are you opening your mouth.
@@tomeng9520 How do u know he never seen one? I can tell by hes name "Kim Forsberg" that hes Swedish.
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@@tomeng9520 It's pretty evident that the Archer is mainly designed for shoot and scoot. The man is right.
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Not mentioned, connected to stealth, is the role of the shroud the gun retracts to before moving. It's a thermal shield hiding the radiation of a hot barrel. I know of only the Archer having this. The Shell and Charge magazine holds 21 shells but you can manually load the gun as you usually do a towed gun. To manually load the gun with a shell and charge and fire the gun takes around 10 seconds with a crew of 4, 1 in the cabin and the rest outside. So yes, slower than the autoloader. Autoload and fire are used in shoot-and-scoot scenarios. If you set up a firebase you can do sustained fire missions without using the magazine function. In Ukraine, the Artillery gunners call it a sniper rifle. Said they don't fire areas covering missions but can with normal shells hit targets within two fired shells. Used in the Swedish Army the Archer is connected to the national covering Battle Management System (BMS). With it, the Archer functions excellently as a counter-artillery system. The accuracy also increases due to the ARTHUR artillery tracking radars that report, automatically, corrections of shell impact points into the individual firing Archer, before the first impact, the first shell detonates. On the subjects of Artillery. Do Swedes know what it's all about? Well, base bleed artillery shells - were invented by Swedes. The US tried by themselves to develop the M982 (Excalibur) but needed a better understanding of ballistic artillery properties and aero control - Sweden provided that. The Strix shell and the Bonus shell were also developed with the help of Swedes. Do Swedes know things about movement through terrain? Well, the dumper truck the Archer system sits on were developed as a forester vehicle before it also became a construction vehicle too. It moves better though forested areas than any truck. A truck is only better on the road with a higher speed.
Hi onepluszulu6701 !
Swedish Archer says hello 🇸🇪
Shoot 35 km (22 miles) with Bofors BONUS shell.
And with Excalibur shell from an Archer it go 50 km (31 miles)
Newest test: 70 km (43 miles). New record.
The Archer system can be put on anything - To further show that point, BAE is testing the RMMV HX as a carrier for Archer systems.
Skål Tom
The reloading video was done using a son of one of the emploees. He's not in the military and he'd never seen an Archer before the shoot! My brother in law builds theese things. The type of vehicle used for the Archer is all up to customer preference...
It takes about 7-8 minutes to reload the entire magazine with a trained crew.
So lets say you fire constantly for an hour starting with a full mag. 3+8min for each cycle with a well trained crew. But starting and ending with 3min for first and last mag. So 3+55+3min = 61min and that is 7x21 = 147rounds/h It sounds like alot but I have no clue, is that good compared to other systems?
@@henkee3715considering that all of this can take place in new locations each loading cycle, I would assume that this is pretty good.
@@henkee3715 No idea, but that is not the point with the archer system, she is a sniper and won´t be staying in the same place for that amount of time becuase the counterbattery would have taken the system out a long time ago. The whole point of being able to fire fast is so she can fire her rounds and be gone before the first rounds land to avoid counterbattery.
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The realistic time is around 10 minutes but a very well oiled crew do it in less time.
Regarding your calculation well that's just hypothetical because normally it moves between 3-6 rounds and also the reloading of the mag takes place in another rear placement.
However, the benefit of this is a faster reloading and less people and manual labor.
@@henkee3715 as the others said, the Archer has adopted the same tactical doctrine Sweden develpped in the 1960s for the Bandkanon1, a tracked self loading 155mm, SPG on a modified S-tank chassi fed from a 14rnd magazine that was topped up using a giant clip stored on standardised rail cargo pallets so that the integrated cranes on the ammo truck and on the SPG could fill the mag with a single lift in only 2 minutes.
The Bandkanon1 could then empty that mag of it's 14 rounds through the barrel in just 45 seconds at up to 25km range...
Coolest thing is that they can fire 3 rounds at different angle so they all hit at the same time and its driving away before they have landed.
Well, if you are able to stay for hours in the same spot and just shoot until the barrel is glowing... Use a towed artillery. If you are in a contested area, perhaps with enemies drones scanning everywhere... Then you use the Archer. You should understand this!
The reloading of the magasine takes about 10 minutes for a trained crew. The amount of ammo is not any problem, take the French Caesar, it takes 18 rounds on board, the 2S22 Bohdana takes 20 rounds. So the ammo is the same on most of these type of artillery.
Then you're right, but in Archer you sit protected in the cabin, you don't stand outside and are vulnerable to attacks.
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True, there are many benefits with the Archer system compared to all other systems. I just pointed out the ammo thing since it seemed to be his biggest concern.
Excalibur was a joint American-Swedish project by Raytheon and Bofors (now owned by BAE) and Archer was developed with the excalibur round in cosideration as it is also developed by Bofors.
A complete replenishment takes about 8 minutes. Trucks are following it, and the reload is made to be easy, done by conscripts.
Archer can get into place, fire 3 rounds, displace (be on the move before the rounds hit the target area), and move 500m in less than two minutes. They made reload time slightly slower to gain accuracy if i remember correctly.
The barracuda camo netting can be on all the time mate, if you've seen the the Archers Ukraine use they got theirs with the camo on them, it's like going to a tailorer to get something fancy fitted out just for you, they will fit it for any vehicle. So it's not just for when you are stationary. Same with the MBTs(Leo 2/Stridsv 122) and IFVs(CV9040C) Sweden donated to Ukraine, all of them got their "suite" on. I thnk I saw a photo of Ajax with it as well, on the Ajax wiki page.
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The A30D is incredibly robust. Its also over spect a bit, by a few tons. Probably the most robust vehicle you can find on the civilian market.
I think a lot of the data claimed here is wrong, like the armour protection level and speed. The 90km/h speed is for the gen 2 archer. The gen 1 can only go 70.
The paint don´t reduce infrared signature, its the cammo that do that. And it don´t block GPS signals, that would be stupid
The camo is made to be on the vehicle at all time. There is video from ukraine that show how it works.
Archer (like most state of the art self propelled artillery system) have a out going radar, a doper weather radar, and a ballistic computer. It also have a relatively long barrel, so it is very exact even at very long range.
The reason for the fairly small magazine is that archer is not made to bring sustained artillery fire. Archer is designed for a battlefield where the enemy got counter artillery radar and its really just designed to shot half of the 21 shells at the time, then redeploy. The reason for that is that it should be out of there before any country artillery shells arrive.
At the same token, its built in radar, can allow it to extreme fast response counter artillery radar in its turn. So its intended to hit other artillery while not being hit back
My son was one of the hosts when you Brits came to Sweden to procure these.
He said that he enjoyed having a beer with them.
.. So fire up to ten rounds say drawing counterbattery fire, still have 11 rounds ready. Scoot, set up again, all while radars and the internal computer is collating enemy gun locations and return fire fast enough with pre-programmed automated robotic like fire to catch the enemy with the rest of the magazine?
Archer is a shoot and scoot system. Shoot 3 rounds, move, fire another 3 rounds, move. So they have enough ammo for 7 such stops. They're not to be used as traditional, stationary, artillery. So the 21 rounds is good enough, and the ammo truck isn't to far away either.
It always fires with support legs down. The stress on the driving chassis is minimal. Windows are said to stop the first 50cal bullet, but to break at the second or third, depending on angle, but I got no source on that.
I think I miss the point with your main concern. Like your experience was having a set up firing base with towed artillery, where, as you say, the site has been pre-stacked with artillery rounds to allow for a sustained operation. From ONE location. When you were supporting, how long did it take them to pack up, relocate, deploy at next position AND drag that comfy big stack of shells with them?
21 rounds is an upgrade compared to the good old Bkan that had 15.
The reloading video sure look horrible, but are old as balls. They hopefully got that thing smoother, and the claim today is 10 minutes for a full reload.
I also don't think ammo is a mush of a limit when used to shoot and scoot, and you only use 1-2 rounds per target and gun.
The Ukranian use it as a "sniper howitzer", claiming to hit with the first, or second round.
The mid-body stearing also make it nimble. Heard it got a reputation of being almost impossible to get stuck with from Swedish users. My worries would be doing 90 km/h with tractor tires.
While the Bkan can empty it mag in 45 seconds. Its also cooler because it users clips ;)
I can't say for the military version, but the civilian truck it's built on takes some considerable effort to get it stuck, I can vouch for that personally. (I did get it stuck, but it was down to user error).
Regarding the magazine, you cannot compare with the artillery support conditions that the US Army is used to, where their artillery can just bombard lower tech armies unthreatened from the same position for long periods of time.
If you look at Ukraine, the artillery must deploy, shoot a few rounds, and immediately be on the move again within a minute. This since a military, like the Russians, quickly zero in where the artillery is coming from, and return fire with their own artillery/missiles. As such a larger magazine vs a high tech army is near irrelevant, as your own artillery would be killed if you stay in the area and just keep firing.
I’ve driven the MAN truck, it sucks ass compared to the Volvo dumper with a turn radius like a bus, ergo it can barely take a normal turn on a normal road. But that is just my experience. BTW the Swedish army has adapted the barracuda as it’s standard camo-net for the army, so every unit use them.
Btw if you want to react to another good mini-documentary I highly recommend this channel.
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the accuracy with gps guided ammunition is within a 1m from target
makes sense, using a mining dumper truck as the base. Its durable, easy to repair, and has excellent terrain abilities.
I lived next door to someone who helped develop Archer. I got info 30 years ago. But then it was secret. // Jerry from Swedeh.
It is great for a artillery duel, fire on a target bug out. Gets countered arty, stops fire back etc. until win
As we say in Sweden. Delay and devastate. Mopping up gets easyer.
Regarding your question, reloading the entire magazine takes 8 minutes.
Fun fact: the Archers predecessor the Bandkanon 1 is still unbeaten, when it comes to shooting fast. It shot 15 shells in 45 sec and reloaded in 2 min.
One of the key reasons for the Volvo truck choice was that in wartime, spare parts can be very hard to come by for specialized vehicles. Since there are only a small amount of archers, being able to get a hold of parts even from civilian vehicles ensures a better chance of operability even in wartime.
A machine like a dumper truck or a tractor is allready heavely over sized when it comes to structural strength
You should watch the old clip from future weapons about the Artcher
For an extensive look, try Weapon Detective's "swedish archer artillery system what is wrong" for better information and a bit of history.
Keep in mind, this is a system designed for Försvarsmaktens needs, and i would assume they do not need a larger capacity from what it already has, especially concidering this thing is more accurate than you would guess. Mobility and stealth and accuracy and strategic engagements over mass ammo, thats the way i see it atleast.
Also i really liking your videos, really cool to listen to your insight and analytics, so Thank you
It's a sniper
If you want sustained fire over a longer period of time there are other cheaper options. However the archer provides the sniper, shoot and scoot tactic which is pretty bad ass if you ask me.
Ukrainians have stated that they usually only need one shot per kill with this system.
Don't need to imagine this on the road. Met two of them on the road in my neighborhood. They are big... 😅 (I live in the area of the factory, so they're common here.)
This is truly a terminator weapon.
This one hits spot on. Not in a grid. You have to read up on your stats.
And no one in Ukraine are trying to fire more than a couple of rounds because of the anti-artillery strike
Archer is pretty good.
If you have the time, compare this system to the French Ceasar system.
Hi there. could you balance the sound level between your voice and the clip's volume.
I was a loader on Haubits 77b, check that on....😮😅
Do you still have those operational? Cool bit of kit..
Hi Combat Ready HQ !
Swedish Archer says hello 💪🏼 🏹 🇸🇪 😎
Shoot 35 km (22 miles) with Bofors BONUS shell.
And with Excalibur shell from an Archer it go 50 km (31 miles)
Newest test: 70 km (43 miles). New record.
The Archer system can be put on anything - To further show that point, BAE is testing the RMMV HX as a carrier for Archer systems.
Skål Tom 😄 ☕
Hey,
Thank you very much
@@CombatReadyHQ Stay safe take care m8. Skål Tom
@@tomeng9520 thanks mate and you
Recoil... No problem.. Öhlin shock absorbees are "made in Sweden", 😁
tha video audio is to low
ehm u know UK bought alot of this archers and also be happy its the best selfpropelled arterilly in the world
they failed to explain how the magazine gets reloaded and how fast it goes
It is a hit and run unit but yes it would be nice to know a sustained fire rate.
Public numbers are 75/hour, so slower than a M777 (around 180/h if I remember correctly) but still decent.
Yorkshire from empty to fully load takes less than 15 minutes
In an emergency it can be operated with just one person..
Reloading is extremly quick and we do not not need a couple of rounds to hit target. First round hit ón target 🙂
Brilliant, thank you! I can see it’s highly accurate and fast
The original video is wrong on one point, namely that it was not France that delivered the Caesar pamphlets to Ukraine. It was Denmark. Denmark had ordered 19, had a few delivered, and the rest were sent directly from the factory in France to Ukraine, while the Ukrainian crew was trained on the units Denmark had received. Denmark then bought Israeli Elbit systems instead, probably because Archer could not be delivered within a short period of time. A fact that many in Denmark have probably overlooked, because there is a hell of a polemic about why Archer has not been bought instead of Elbit's system. 17:33
We can hear you breath bro
Um, well, looking at this video, I get the feeling that you don't really understand what this artillery vehicle is meant to do. A 21-magazine cap is meh. It's about high mobility and accuracy. The 21-round internal magazine is quite impressive when a crew can reload it within the 7-minute mark. And this gun is not made for sustained fire; it's made to shoot and leave, sniping high-value targets. Also, a vehicle that can't handle the terrain? Well, Sweden is about 90% woods and mountains still, and they sure made this vic to handle shitty terrain :D
I know it is a reaction video but u giving "expert" opinions on weather the Volvo truck can manage etc is funny.
Sound on the video is a bit low, and you mike is picking up breathing.
Video sound volume very low and microphone volume very high makes this video hard to watch. you struggle to hear the video and then you come in "screaming" so I almost fell of my chair.
Reload time 10-15 min !
No under 10 min!
Hi if the uk has ordered some of these why not use these instead of making our own because you know with uk everything will be over priced
Great video but my misophonia cannot stop focusing on the heavy breathing
No drone defence
no need when u are 30-40 kilometers from the target..its made for firing in forest places where the trees and terrain is a good protection.
Sweden is covered by 68% forest so good luck finding it..becase it moves and hides all the time..like the army and airfore and navy in sweden
shoot scoot hide repeat over and over again
Norway did not buy to much from sweden before. because.. we buy from the alliance partners. Now the the market are open to buy top grade stuff from sveden. Our allies. I wanted the sweden subs. But at that time we chose the German submarines. Now a day, we as allies, we can develop togheter. Kongsberg and Koppums, Nammo and Bofors. SAAB and FFI++
It bothers me that he uses both the words howitzer and cannon. It's not the same thing.
Your breathing is higher than the actual vido sound (i.e. the video sound is low, your sound is higher)
AFAIK only one Archer has been lost in combat in the Ukraine, in what seems to have been an attack from a randomly roaming drone. So for the next iteration they are looking into some kind of drone defence.
The Russians put a lot of effort into hunting them, but it's unclear if it's mostly for propaganda purposes or genuine fear of the system.
If I got that incident right the Archer only sustained some moderate damage which could be repaired. And most important, the crew was unharmed.
It will be great hearing from the Ukrainians how Archer performes. And all the positive and negative sides. NATO countries had better decide on a few versions per type of weapon to increase performance. Oh, and reloading doesn't take that long.
One Ukrainian dude that use this system described it as the best mobile artillery system out there. He said it never had problem, was like a "Sniper howitzer"
Uk already got the archer to replace what they send to ukraine?
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It's also very vulnerable.
It doesn't take much to put it out of order.
You need to find it first.
All artillery is pretty vulnerable, artillery's best defence is distance and as low deployment and pack up time as possible.
This is probably less vulnerable than the tracked systems out there in some regards. The ammo is not even stored near the driver. None of these vechicles has been destroyed either so far, one however has taken a drone hit, but i believe it dident get completely destroyed.. Every single artilery vechicle/stationary thing is vulnerable to direct hits.
I think the Volvo A30D is out of production (or too expensive or something).
As they mentioned in the video UK and Sweden will instead use the Rheinmetall RMMV HX2 8x8 truck for future deliveries. I'm unsure what the reason really is?
Its out of production becasue its old. Its been replaced with the A30G.
"I'm unsure what the reason really is?"
I would argue BAE internal shenanigans. Already having integrated business ties with MAN.. Wanting to squeeze out Volvo maybe.
I am guessing.
@@matsv201 That is the reason given for the change as they would have to integrate it to a new platform anyway.
@@2canines that and military commonality with allies. It's probably also harder to sell with Volvo ADT chassi in the rest of Europe compared to a truck chassi. But for Sweden it's definitely more beneficial with an Volvo ADT chassi.
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its not the fastest... PzH2000 and RCH155 are faster
It's not about sustained fire rate but time to first rounds. The fastest shooting 155 artillery system is still as far as I know the Swedish Bkan 1.
no sound - no show
work out your audio man
Nothing wrong with the audio. Must be your head.
@@heinedenmark the archer video volume is very low and very high when he speaks. I agree it needs a correction for the next videos.
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Fastest if it does not get stuck in terrain, which Ukraine proven such systems do a lot.
BS Ivan, nice try. Stop vodka, go to sleep.
Why would this thing get stuck in terrain? its built on a dump truck used in mining operations and harsh terrain, slap a few chains on the wheels on this thing and u sure as hell aint getting stuck anywhere.
Sweden do NOT give Ukrainians the new system or anything special. Just a note. Nobody give away high tech new systems or new models.
What are you saying, that Sweden sold Archers and CV90 vehicles to Ukraine?
@@benktlofgren4710 all hardware gets regular upgrades and improvements. Just look at jas 35 gripen ...version e now and its radicaled improved
You'll definitely have to explain yourself as to what you mean with what you said. Sweden has donated the systems.
It might be the fastest in production, but Sweden had the "Bandkanon 1" before. It was capable of firing 15 rounds in 45 seconds and only taking 2 minutes to reload.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15,5_cm_bandkanon_1
The Russian 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV is far superior with a range of 80km and 16 rounds per minute, that's 4 rounds every 15 seconds, and Russia is already MASS producing them i don't think 14 are even a drop in a bucket.
80km ?! BS. Proof, links !
@@tomeng9520 Google it, those stats cime from anti Russian western propaganda sources
Give a source of that. i bet u cant provide any Ivan