British Army is no longer shouting at Recruits all about Empathy
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
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You are not supposed to enjoy it 😂😂😂
So it’s basically civilians in uniforms
Yep . Just about sums up this touchy feely charade . Is it a Monty Python joke? "Excuse me chaps, would you mind awfully if you could see your way to coming to attention. Much obliged, thank you".
They're training for a Tesco job, I assume. They sure ain't getting prepared for war. The delusion of the British Army is just astonishing.
This is a result of the utter gash recruitment policy that has essentially been forced upon the British Army.
No longer is the British army portrayed as a way for young men and women to get away from rough estates, from poverty, from gangs, from crime and to essentially leave behind a life of no purpose to then become part of something more than themselves , to become part of a family maybe for the first time and to gain skills and discipline whilst serving the country.
No
Now the British Army is aiming the recruitment at people who have zero desire to serve and as a result, wondering why no one is joining anymore.
I was in the para reg from 1997 to when I got MD’d in 2009. I am from an extremely rough state in Edinburgh and without the army I would be serving a very long prison sentence now for some horrendous violent crime no doubt as the people I was associating with and the things I was doing when I was 17 would surely have seen me on that path.
The British army now in 2024 would not want me as I was then. There’s a lot of staff officers and civil servants in Whitehall who never really left university and I blame them for this current culture and also there is a distinct lack of maroon at the top, we never had these problems when General Sir Mike Jackson was god.
I am a transsexual, I transitioned in 2011 and I am extremely happy. I also wouldn’t change anything about my past but recruitment for the army in particular needs to be aimed at the community I belonged to in 1997 not the one I belong to now. The enemy does not care how offended a person is on Twitter or what their preferred pronouns are.
Also please bin Capita , they are about as much use as a chocolate kettle.
Sorry for the long post. I just feel a bit passionate about this. Cheers 🍻
Being ex army going through 90's training I seriously worry what type of recruits are coming through with the changes. The shouting and abuse you got was pat of it and it's what made us a soldier, and a better soldier than every other country due to our training.
Unbelievable. I'm 65, went through Depot Queens Div, 1978. Had very few weekends off. Show parades, bed packs. It was tough but prepared me for Belfast.
Same here 1970 Bassinbourne tough but fair you grow up fast 👍🇬🇧242
The Paras engaging in Milling 2028.... *Pillow fights in speedos*
I served in the Canadian reserves in the early '80s, and I can honestly say that I was never shouted at.
I did get screamed at a lot though.
Do you think that the Russians train their soldiers like this ? A bunch of fairies 🧚
Maybe the Russians don’t shout either 😂
@@CombatReadyHQ if it comes to a shooting war I’m siding with the Russians not the modern day Nazis of NATO
@@CombatReadyHQ In Sweden and Finland the soldiers all have A-levels and are 19. In other countrys soldiers are with O-levels and maybee footballhooligans or even street Riot types.... then there must be different theatchingmethods for diff groups. If the Army is led by Mission Tactics and not COMMANDS... You must Build understanding and respect in both directions. Russian Tactic is Command Tactics and OBEY even if its wrong when u pass the next treeline . Its different to rise a tent or beat an enemy who change and regroup alla the time
@@CombatReadyHQ iv heard they dont need to shout speaking is enough and usually ends up with vodka
russians dont train them at all they probably are happy when they get 15 days of training to be send into the meat grinder. you know half a million russians became casualties right thats wounden missing and killed half a million in 2 years.
Yeah, right, the "enemy" will have "empathy" for them, sure, right.
Yes and maybe they will stop firing at them
This BS comes from the Top Brass weak officers lead to weak soldiers
Yes, stop being yes men
@@CombatReadyHQ I never was I never will in one CO’s hour I questioned the commanding officers decision to Disband our Para Coy and gave sound reason not to I got pulled into his office by the RSM after 😂 an interesting conversation to say the least
dont get me confused but, even in the cadets when we go out on exercises we are always shouting and it helps. it enables us to hear orders when we are doing blank firing, and it also allows us to react effectively.
im going to join army as an officer when im 18 (16 currently) and i couldnt imagine it being soft.
Tea and scones for you lad, shoutings, the cold, wet and mud wont exist on your life 👍
Good luck in all seriousness 🫡
@@roughwalkers Haha, the section commanders used to joke about being called 'sir'. When they were accidentally called 'sir' by anyone they used to say "Don't call me Sir, I work for a living". That always used to make me smile, obviously it was only light humour.
I rejoined 06-08 and it was happening even back then it’s one of the reasons I got out the Army has turned pussy 😂😂😂
Yes it’s changed so much now.
I first heard of this in 2002!! And beasting was no longer aloud.
I joined 2008 and beastings was every day ... the "back area" was a constant threat and we got it
We even crawled through human piss on "Mt Tumbledown"
We got punched on the pull ups and "pace stick balls" was an everyday thing
@@roughwalkers we had something called an itchy head if we messed up 😂and the pace stick to the balls 😂
You have to yell because on the battlefield it’s not calm and quiet. It’s about projecting your voice.
Did recruit training at JIB Shorncliffe. Received lots of feedback with a pace stick to the head. Spent time getting beasted in the pokey. It did break me but then I got it and started to get good at most of it. Today’s kid need more resilience so when the need arises they get up off their belt buckles and that the fight into them.
This kind of BS equates to deaths in combat getting yelled at and put under pressure in training helps soldiers handle situations when the shit hits the fan 🔥 🔥 🔥 they are most definitely changing the standard 😂😂😂
as someone that hasnt served. this is crazy, whats the point of having a big army if they cant perform under pressure. maybe if they do this for the first 3months of training and the start screaming at the end of training.
Hahaha i was saying this last year but nobody believed me its crazy
My mate whos at ITC part of the training team they have to be careful due to smartphones
I bet: otherwise they’d get recorded and their career is over, you were right and it’s actually come to this
@@CombatReadyHQ 1000% mate them words exactly
I fully understand that the military is trying to make basic training and military service more appealing and no one likes being shouted at but training in the military is not simply preparing someone to do a job. Soldiering is a very stressful occupation, particularly in a combat situation and one of the reasons for putting recruits under stress is to get them used to reacting and carrying out orders in highly stressful environments. Failure to do so correctly can get people killed, an outcome that is not present in any civilian role and no military commander will have time in a combat situation to ask and persuade reluctant soldiers to put their lives on the line. It is on these occasions when training and discipline come into the picture. These, plus the ability to react to orders when all hell is breaking loose is what makes an effective soldier. These traits will NOT be developed or inculcated by soft words and empathy.
Train Hard Fight Easy
Train Easy Fight Hard not likely
Too right! Train hard fight easy
Less shouting more teaching now. I went through basic training in the late 2000's you'd get beasted shouted at quite a bit did it make me a better soldier I'm not sure. Rejoined as a reserve in 2017 and had to do their basic next to no shouting but bollockings when applicable. There's a time to get shouty and a time to teach good instructors have a mix of both.
please Sir, don't shout at me, I'm sensitive 😂
Exactly 👍 😂
Fkin hell is r army now GOING snowflakes!!?????? Ps. Bout time u got the Pegasus flag up the right way lad from a oldswet my self an ex'service AB ALL THE WAY BROTHER!! 😊😊
Hahah can’t call them snowflakes 😂 you were right it looks better. AB
@@CombatReadyHQ . How's it going today m8 hows ya day going today m8 so far??? Gash' or green on mucker!! So wot will happen to any an all new intake of all 3 services???? Wen u go to war!! Wen shit hits the fan an lads are GOING dw!! N like u said etc wen u an ur opos!! R pinned down under fire. 4rom a sniper or HE' etc coming in??? So all trooping the colour etc! Will b talking the colour and talking gundrills. Im old-school army and was a instructor!! I ALWAYS!! Gave them shit wen thay fked up u brakes them to make them in to a fighting machine!! . Ps. Well done m8ty with Pegasus flag up the right way lad well done mucker!!
We don't shout at our recruits. It's counterproductive. In training, in peace, you build the foundation on which the enlistees and officers need to operate in a conflict or war. There must be trust and flexibility between all levels and from the top to the lowest level in a war. We build this during their training. Does it mean they become soft or less capable?! Nope! On the contrary, the soldiers become confident, take the initiative, show respect for their leaders, and trust their orders.
Relic of the Army's past criticizing the way things are done now. nothing new.
Dicipline and loyalty to officers can be built on trust and consecvence in behavior from officers
If you can't deal with some jumped up ponce whose job is shouting at you to motivate you to improve your skills, what are you gonna do to enemies shooting at you with intent to kill? Ask them politely if they wouldn't?
_Weak._
Talk about the Ghirkas my son
My Cpl had toured Iraq, toured Afghan Op Herrick, I knew he knew what he was doing and he was an extremely good instructor like the other 3 section commanders. How on earth are you going to survive in a warzone if you can't even pass training! Training is a controlled environment and yes you can pull out of PT or an exercise and go and sit on the jack wagon but what are you going to do when you aren't in a controlled environment, the enemy are not going to give a toss. Most of the enemy don't have rules of engagement, they don't subscribe to the geneva convention they do what they like. Oh and let's say another thing, these poorly trained snowflakes will be to the left and right of you in this warzone, would you trust them there? Would you trust them to carry your ass 300m to save your life if they can't even pass out of training because they didn't like being shouted at, or they didn't have 8hr sleep the night before? Training is supposed to be hard it's supposed to be difficult, you aren't supposed to be having a jolly, it calms down more when you get to regiment when you have earned the right to have it more relaxed, when you have proved you can get through training. I really do hope the elite units (para's, ghurkas, royal marines) do not subscribe to this nonsense.
Sometimes, you have to really have a look at what job you're going into, if you're going Infantry you need it to be tough, the other Remfs can do what they like and they already had it cushty anyway.
I feel like you raised your voice to much at me for ND'ing at the range shed with people in. Can you take a step back so I can regulate.
As somone whos looking at joining thevreserves this puts me off. I want to have my arse kicked out of my soft bad habits, not sitting down in the feelings square or some bullshit.
I’m sure the Chinese train empathetically. Lol. The US Army is doing this bullshit too.
This is stupid. You know how I got a fast descent time on the rappel tower in the Army? By being more terrified of the half dozen drill Sgts at the top of it than I was of gravity. You're not going to replicate things like that with soothing words of encouragement.
Honestly this really pisses me off 😂
I think it pisses off a lot, I can imagine what the instructors are thinking!
@@CombatReadyHQ if they are complying then that tells us all we need to know about them doesn’t it ?
Look at Danish Jaegerkorps or Swedish JägerMovies.. Shouting only when its neceserry... Of Cause they shout if danger hampends in Peace , and in battle in sharp situation. New teachingmethods has come up last years.
😂 😂 😂
The Swedish military emphasizes a more supportive training environment. While discipline and rigor are still crucial, the methods tend to be less confrontational and more focused on teamwork and individual development. Shouting and aggressive behaviour by instructors are less common, as Swedish military training places a higher value on mutual respect and professional development. Screaming should be used correctly. Just screaming for the sake of it, as the Americans sometimes do, seems kind of ridiculous. It should be, as we say in Sweden, "lagom," meaning not too much or too little. But I mean, it is the military, not ballerina practice.🤣So being able to perform under stress and pressure is crucial.
In the Units thats 1 tier... Shouting is not the normal talking method.
And how do you know this ? From experience 😂
Yeah it's not but that's because they've already been through basic training and gotten even fitter to get to tier 1 SF. They aren't coming off the street at 17 to become SF
@@zaynevanday142 Yes ex PlatoonCommander -Lt in Lappland
Yes, it's widely known that the SF don't shout at people going for selection or once in the regiment. That's because their philosophy is that they want people who can self motivate. Bear in mind when you're talking about SF soldiers they are already at an extremely high standard even before they can get chosen to go on selection and they have already been in the military more than 2years. When you've just rocked up recruits need that short sharp wake up call to get their arse in gear, which comes from shouting.
It’s pathetic!
Uuuugggghhh 😡
FFS....