In my opinion all of lee's moves should get between 2 and 5 extra damage. B2 especially. It became almost useless and his wall carry is average. His CH game is decent and he REALLY depends on it but the damage is pitiful for how difficult the combos are. Just a plain magic 4 is useless. A magic 4,4 needs a b1,1,f input to pick up. The b4~3 needs an iws2,3 for some average 70 damage. The ff4,bb4 and uf3,4 need a micro dash b3,3 if you prayed to Cthulu and he granted you a 100% straight angle so the opponent doesnt fly off into the sunset. CH d3 needs to be into hitman stance with d3~4 and then cancelled by pressing back and then perfectly timed b3,3. THAT is fucking retarded. The opponent should just do a pirouette like with bryan's snake edge or king's ch low kick launcher, for a normal ass combo. That shit move is even launch punishable and doesnt track shit, missing 2 minutes after a sidestep because it doesn't realign. Then we have HTM 4 being just a knockdown while its the slowest snake edge in the game because its super predictable and comes out of the worst stance in the game. I still have no fucking idea why its a knockdown snake edge out of a stance... Oh well...cant expect the dumb devs to make lee decent. It took them 5 years to make his shitty wall bounce decent right after nerfing the power crush into oblivion. Then they nerfed ff4 just to buff its crushing properties and then made b2 easier to land just like ws2,3 ff3...? At the same time they make electrics and hellsweeps track and electrics impossible to launch punish, sometimes just whiff punish them. I qont bring up gigas because its a waste of time trying to make him good cuz nobody likes him or uses him, and thats not because he is shit...well yes but he is shit as a character from all angles. When will my boy lee get buffed....at least buff dragunov. He has like 5 good moves and thats all. Just a wr2 nerf would destroy the character. Thats dumb.
@@kmybitptys because claudios moves are easy to pull off. Not saying that Claudio players had it easy, but Lee is just too different for the entire cast of Tekken. You need more time and patience to pull 80 to 90 damage. If that doesn't make you feel cool when you pull that one move that is hard to do, then I don't know what to tell you.
@@kmybitptys well... He is sylish. It's just that the execution of his combos are.... Tiring. To my hands. Claudio is... well.... he looks like gay. No offense. I main him once. To try new easy characters but Lee just pull me right back in. Lee is my first main and I think that that's a bad idea. Too hard. But too cool if you pull that one combo off P.S I am gay for Lee Chaolan. And I'm straight.
Jesus those inputs man. Great video. Lee definitely needs a damage buff. The fact that law can get just as much damage (if not more) just by knowing how to apply dss. Great video tho dude 😁
He's a dope character choice imo. He's very good at making your opponent press buttons with his fast pokes, has good counter hits and is hella dope to watch... Only thing is he has a fundimental learning curve at higher levels of play because of his lack of good damaging lows and lack of range... But I got him to Fujin so he is definitely viable
@@OriginalBlackAce its not that hard dont listen to these kids, something important though is it will whiff if the opponent is off axis as will ub3, so off axis followup to acid rain is d3 now.
Nice combos. But on combo 13 and 14, after doing df 3,1,3 do 2,2,3 which is very consistent and does very good damage followed by 1 or 2 back 2 mist step cancels followed by F 1,2. If not 2 back 2's its just 1 and then the normal ender
For #4 in the video, you can get more damage (and definitely easier) with 4,u3 in place of the WS2,3. The b2 link afterward won't work on small characters, though.
I resolve the problem myself: there are two versions, one of tekken 5 ps3, one of tekken dark resurrection, one is called formless like water, the other is entrada da estrella Thanks anyway
Great work man...... Although, I can also do all these combos😍 I have done a couple even harder than these..... Hopefully I'll make some combo videos t0o it's really fun❤️
Thats dope! these are just optimal max damage combos tho. They aren't flexing type combos with wall breaks and weird angles or any of that; just meant for everyday play
@@caiuswolf7725 no problem im glad to help! Btw just one b2 for the combo is usually enough for a decent damaging combo. Hitting 3 b2's can be hard to do online sometimes
Its d,db to cancel. So I do d3-hms, d,db, b, b33. Thats piece by piece. But its much easier to understand by this - (d3~hms, qcb 33~f * b2~f * b2~f * b2~f * b * 2,4, running 34)
Ws 2,4 is in every middle because it is his best screw attack ws2,3 is a finisher or a mix up option but it deals same damage as f2,1 so every lee player uses f2,1 as a finisher ws2,3 isn't as used as ws2,4 in combos
maining Lee? well good luck mate, btw to do b2f consistently, just master the rhythm. let Lee go with the full mist step and then before he recover, immediately input the b2f.
the best way to do b2 loops consistently isn't with visual cues, you just need to keep practicing and get the timing in your head. same with b33 pick-ups, acid rain, ch d3, ch 1+2, etc... the combos aren't that hard to do consistently with 4+ bars once you practice enough
No, f21 is still more consistent but does a measly 1 less damage. WR3,4 requires more precise timing than f21 so it will feel inconsistent in longer combos
@@Gumi_wuewuewue I see... Well it may be but only because one of the combos i tried, I was able to land 2 b2's being slightly off axis to the left. Normally its hard to land it from a magic 4
I need some sort of explanation. I don't understand how to link these B2s. Whenever I input my B2 he just walks backwards. Which is weird because I'm pressing the right buttons. No matter how I start the combo off I get Lee walking backwards instead of landing the punch. Can't even get the first punch to land.
it took me a month to get it consistently. i figured out i was inputting the f input too fast after b2, after i slowed it down a bit i got the hang of it
@@KILLCHRISU Of all Lee Combo actually not quite hard, but only his B2f loops and B2f into WS2~4/3 is the the part that took lots of practice to get consistent, and might break your memory cells and fingers to get used to them. Other than that I would say kinda piece of cake to pull off.
You tap "forward, backward" after pressing back 2. You'll see him duck down if you do the "b2 forward" correctly. After that just tap "back" and he should do a back sway. Once you get that down, tap "2,4" at the start of the back sway
Best pokes are df1, 44, 1+2, d3, db3, db4, ff4, df2, running 34, and slide... His most abusable moves for me are df1, df2, d3, db3+4 and slide... His plus frame moves are running 34, f3+4 and uf3+4... His whiff punishers are f21 and f33334... Those are his tools in a nutshell, until you learn to abuse the mental plus frames he has
OriginalBlackAce Thanks a lot I’m starting to fully grasp why people say lee is hard, it’s no joke but great video though, I’m gonna get pretty good with him hopefully lol
@@lifewasgiventous1614 abusable setups are ff4 into d3 for a CH / 4,u4 into d3 for a CH / mixing up 12, 122 and 1224 / 44 into d3 to crush highs for a CH/ 44 into df2 to crush highs for a CH / and b4 HMS3 which is my favorite / there are more but these are just the most common imo
From 1-10 id say about a 9... A 10 in combo difficulty and about a 8 in fundimental difficulty "imo". Keep in mind most of the cast average out around a 6-7 in fundimental difficulty
As a new player, playing Lee is a bold choice because of the difficulty straight from the jump. Don't be discouraged by his combo execution requirement, because it will take some time to get used to his execution timings
After ff4, you ff dash as soon as the opponent falls, and press b33 mid my dash. You'll know if your getting close to the timing if you see it combo at least 2 hits.
everyone is talking about b2 like thats the hard part. the hard part is the micro dash combos, and ur not gonna get past genbu without a consistence b3,3
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When I play Ling or Julia: A few inputs, 70 damage.
When I play Lee: Break my hand and fingers, summon a demon to input the moves, 55 damage.
Lmao
Play king: 3 grabs, 110 dmg
In my opinion all of lee's moves should get between 2 and 5 extra damage. B2 especially. It became almost useless and his wall carry is average. His CH game is decent and he REALLY depends on it but the damage is pitiful for how difficult the combos are. Just a plain magic 4 is useless. A magic 4,4 needs a b1,1,f input to pick up. The b4~3 needs an iws2,3 for some average 70 damage. The ff4,bb4 and uf3,4 need a micro dash b3,3 if you prayed to Cthulu and he granted you a 100% straight angle so the opponent doesnt fly off into the sunset.
CH d3 needs to be into hitman stance with d3~4 and then cancelled by pressing back and then perfectly timed b3,3. THAT is fucking retarded. The opponent should just do a pirouette like with bryan's snake edge or king's ch low kick launcher, for a normal ass combo. That shit move is even launch punishable and doesnt track shit, missing 2 minutes after a sidestep because it doesn't realign.
Then we have HTM 4 being just a knockdown while its the slowest snake edge in the game because its super predictable and comes out of the worst stance in the game. I still have no fucking idea why its a knockdown snake edge out of a stance...
Oh well...cant expect the dumb devs to make lee decent. It took them 5 years to make his shitty wall bounce decent right after nerfing the power crush into oblivion. Then they nerfed ff4 just to buff its crushing properties and then made b2 easier to land just like ws2,3 ff3...?
At the same time they make electrics and hellsweeps track and electrics impossible to launch punish, sometimes just whiff punish them.
I qont bring up gigas because its a waste of time trying to make him good cuz nobody likes him or uses him, and thats not because he is shit...well yes but he is shit as a character from all angles.
When will my boy lee get buffed....at least buff dragunov. He has like 5 good moves and thats all. Just a wr2 nerf would destroy the character. Thats dumb.
Julia's got some very hard combos if you do the f2,1 f3~1 ff1 versions.
Lee is by far the most stylish character ever created in the world of fighting games. Never has kicking someone’s ass looked so cool.
nice!
Why you speakin like claudio doesnt exist
@@kmybitptys because claudios moves are easy to pull off. Not saying that Claudio players had it easy, but Lee is just too different for the entire cast of Tekken. You need more time and patience to pull 80 to 90 damage. If that doesn't make you feel cool when you pull that one move that is hard to do, then I don't know what to tell you.
@@Joshua_Cartus hes saying that lee is stylish
@@kmybitptys well... He is sylish. It's just that the execution of his combos are.... Tiring. To my hands. Claudio is... well.... he looks like gay. No offense. I main him once. To try new easy characters but Lee just pull me right back in. Lee is my first main and I think that that's a bad idea. Too hard. But too cool if you pull that one combo off
P.S I am gay for Lee Chaolan. And I'm straight.
Jesus those inputs man. Great video. Lee definitely needs a damage buff. The fact that law can get just as much damage (if not more) just by knowing how to apply dss. Great video tho dude 😁
Combos are not that bad.
Adding wall dmg can result near death experience
I thought about it but didn't because I wanted to drop this as soon as possible
Yes but did you see the space required by there combos?
Hell yeah brother I taught myslef Lee's hard sample combo yesterday and am debating actually learning the character
He's a dope character choice imo. He's very good at making your opponent press buttons with his fast pokes, has good counter hits and is hella dope to watch... Only thing is he has a fundimental learning curve at higher levels of play because of his lack of good damaging lows and lack of range... But I got him to Fujin so he is definitely viable
At 3:52, blazing kick is still guaranteed after acid rain for slightly more damage. Excellent video!
I haven't been able to land it so far maybe because of the timing. I figured it was no longer guranteed in S3
OriginalBlackAce yea its definitely the timing. Its harder to land now which sucks
@@OriginalBlackAce its pretty much a just frame in s3.
@@OriginalBlackAce its not that hard dont listen to these kids, something important though is it will whiff if the opponent is off axis as will ub3, so off axis followup to acid rain is d3 now.
@@14ccs thanks for the tip, ill keep that in mind
Nice combos. But on combo 13 and 14, after doing df 3,1,3 do 2,2,3 which is very consistent and does very good damage followed by 1 or 2 back 2 mist step cancels followed by F 1,2. If not 2 back 2's its just 1 and then the normal ender
For #4 in the video, you can get more damage (and definitely easier) with 4,u3 in place of the WS2,3. The b2 link afterward won't work on small characters, though.
True. These were meant to be consistent combo's is why that filler wasn't included until the last combo
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@@minimhlk7254 thats right!!
Can't wait to come back to Tekken!
We await your return
Please what can i found the music you play at the begining of the video? Not the original versión of tekken 5, because this versión is diferent
Not sure, I use the T5 preset in the ps4 version
I resolve the problem myself: there are two versions, one of tekken 5 ps3, one of tekken dark resurrection, one is called formless like water, the other is entrada da estrella
Thanks anyway
Great work man......
Although, I can also do all these combos😍
I have done a couple even harder than these.....
Hopefully I'll make some combo videos t0o it's really fun❤️
Thats dope! these are just optimal max damage combos tho. They aren't flexing type combos with wall breaks and weird angles or any of that; just meant for everyday play
Delayed hopkick into d+2 does more damage than 4u3 off of HMS 2, less consistent tho
Nice, I didn't think of that option
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For the first two combos sometimes I miss the running f2,1 is it because I start running too late? Hitting the f2,1 too soon or too late?
It may be either or. Make sure you start running as soon as the opponent is halfway from hitting the ground and input f21 as soon as you are in range
OriginalBlackAce thanks man I’ve been practicing the first 3 combos everyday and slowly getting there. Thanks for all the help!
@@caiuswolf7725 no problem im glad to help! Btw just one b2 for the combo is usually enough for a decent damaging combo. Hitting 3 b2's can be hard to do online sometimes
How u do the second back flip kick without dashing? You’re connecting the b2 without the micro dash how?
In which combo?
OriginalBlackAce we will never know
On combo 22 how do you cancel the recovery animation after D3 to pull of an instant b33. Is there some kind of hitman stance cancel I’m missing?
Its d,db to cancel. So I do d3-hms, d,db, b, b33. Thats piece by piece. But its much easier to understand by this - (d3~hms, qcb 33~f * b2~f * b2~f * b2~f * b * 2,4, running 34)
OriginalBlackAce You can do b3,3 straight out of HMS, you don’t need to cancel it
@@justaduck6879 that's true, I forgot b33 can come out without the cancel
For Lees sway CH4 you can use 4,U3 instead of B3,3f for an easier time and 10 more damage
EDIT: only for medium and large characters
True, my idea was to be more centered to universal combos
OriginalBlackAce makes sense man great video 👍
For the first combo is that ws 2,3 after the three back 2 mist steps? I’m new to tekken
Its ws 2,4 inputted as mist step b~2,4
Ws 2,4 is in every middle because it is his best screw attack ws2,3 is a finisher or a mix up option but it deals same damage as f2,1 so every lee player uses f2,1 as a finisher ws2,3 isn't as used as ws2,4 in combos
@@H1nted ws2,3 is important for wall combos because it gives you a higher wall splat
@@14ccs correct but when it is a far carry ws23 isn t used, i prefer standard combo but in case you won t have to S! Ws23 is fantastic
planning to main Lee, how do you do a b2f constantly?
Time it with right after he dips his head, which is after the b2 connects
Grind it out in practice mode. Find the rhythm to it. If you're a musician, its about a quarter note at 120 bpm.
i learned it as b2ff and it works
maining Lee? well good luck mate, btw to do b2f consistently, just master the rhythm. let Lee go with the full mist step and then before he recover, immediately input the b2f.
the best way to do b2 loops consistently isn't with visual cues, you just need to keep practicing and get the timing in your head. same with b33 pick-ups, acid rain, ch d3, ch 1+2, etc... the combos aren't that hard to do consistently with 4+ bars once you practice enough
Is it more consistent to land crescent moon kick(WR3,4) as combo ender in S3?
No, f21 is still more consistent but does a measly 1 less damage. WR3,4 requires more precise timing than f21 so it will feel inconsistent in longer combos
How do you do the Ws 2 4 after the B2 F? Been stuck on that for 5 hours now I already grinded my B2 F I can hit 3 in a row now p1 side
The notation is b2, f * b * 2,4... So basically just tap "b" after you input the b2f, then input 24
Just go sway which is bN
B2, F, F, B, N 2,4
Is it true that b2 is now more consistent on s3? Cuz i kinda feel it is more consistent to combo now
It feels like it somewhat, but im not sure mainly because i dont remember reading notes over it
@@OriginalBlackAce its not mentioned in the patch notes either. Imyourfather said it was more consistent now
@@Gumi_wuewuewue I see... Well it may be but only because one of the combos i tried, I was able to land 2 b2's being slightly off axis to the left. Normally its hard to land it from a magic 4
@@Gumi_wuewuewue no it's the same. You're just getting better
@@LeeStyleLan gee thanks :D
yo combo at 1:03 any tips? I can connect 3 b2s but my f21 misses on last hit(1)
Slightly delay the f21 after the 3rd b2
Let me know if this helps
let them drop a little more before f21 or delay the 1 on f21
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I need some sort of explanation. I don't understand how to link these B2s. Whenever I input my B2 he just walks backwards. Which is weird because I'm pressing the right buttons. No matter how I start the combo off I get Lee walking backwards instead of landing the punch. Can't even get the first punch to land.
Trust me I understand, used to happen to me when I started using him in TTT2
You have to press b and 2 at the same time. If you press b then 2 at even slightly different timing, you'll get either a backsway or neutral 2
Make sure you press b2, not b, 2... So the input to cancel after the first b2 is f... So it looks like this: b2, f * b2, f * b2, f * ect
Btw this symbol ( * ) means neutral. As in you arnt pressing anything at all
We got new combos
1st week of playing lee
Surprisingly got the b2 loops and acid rain consistent and imma main him for style
What about Lee 3+4,2 Launcher that's really good to use in ranked
I put two options for the launcher in this video. Check combos 7 & 8
Lee main here but even I can't keep a consistent b+2 mist step cancel :(
Oh man I know the struggle... The trick is to unput the b2 once his head ducks down after the b2~f cancel
it took me a month to get it consistently.
i figured out i was inputting the f input too fast after b2, after i slowed it down a bit i got the hang of it
@@KILLCHRISU Of all Lee Combo actually not quite hard, but only his B2f loops and B2f into WS2~4/3 is the the part that took lots of practice to get consistent, and might break your memory cells and fingers to get used to them. Other than that I would say kinda piece of cake to pull off.
CoDeNaMe CM yeah that’s what we’re talking about
Day 1 Lee here, how do you get the wr 2 off of the B2 string, he just keeps doing the generic 2
You tap "forward, backward" after pressing back 2. You'll see him duck down if you do the "b2 forward" correctly. After that just tap "back" and he should do a back sway. Once you get that down, tap "2,4" at the start of the back sway
OriginalBlackAce
Nice, any general tips with him, or moves/ setups that are note worthy ?
Best pokes are df1, 44, 1+2, d3, db3, db4, ff4, df2, running 34, and slide... His most abusable moves for me are df1, df2, d3, db3+4 and slide... His plus frame moves are running 34, f3+4 and uf3+4... His whiff punishers are f21 and f33334... Those are his tools in a nutshell, until you learn to abuse the mental plus frames he has
OriginalBlackAce
Thanks a lot I’m starting to fully grasp why people say lee is hard, it’s no joke but great video though, I’m gonna get pretty good with him hopefully lol
@@lifewasgiventous1614 abusable setups are ff4 into d3 for a CH / 4,u4 into d3 for a CH / mixing up 12, 122 and 1224 / 44 into d3 to crush highs for a CH/ 44 into df2 to crush highs for a CH / and b4 HMS3 which is my favorite / there are more but these are just the most common imo
New to Tekken and wanna try Lee as he's the coolest looking to me. How hard of a character is he to learn as a new Tekken player?
From 1-10 id say about a 9... A 10 in combo difficulty and about a 8 in fundimental difficulty "imo". Keep in mind most of the cast average out around a 6-7 in fundimental difficulty
As a new player, playing Lee is a bold choice because of the difficulty straight from the jump. Don't be discouraged by his combo execution requirement, because it will take some time to get used to his execution timings
5/5
how do u get b33 consinstly after ff3?
After ff4, you ff dash as soon as the opponent falls, and press b33 mid my dash. You'll know if your getting close to the timing if you see it combo at least 2 hits.
OriginalBlackAce oh okay thanks men
OriginalBlackAce WTH DUDE I DID IT FIRST TRY LIKE THIS
@@Light-iu7nh that's great! Glad to help
can you add notations sir I would like to study lee
I wish I had the time to do it, hopefully I can find the time to post them in the future
@@OriginalBlackAce thanks that would be great
How much time did it took to learn these?
Well for the b2 it was half a year forn
Overall Lee, took some time to
@@OriginalBlackAce hmm
it takes years for overall Lee lol
I can’t do it. The back and forth is impossible.
It takes alot of practice for most people to get it down... Take your time and take it step by step
everyone is talking about b2 like thats the hard part.
the hard part is the micro dash combos, and ur not gonna get past genbu without a consistence b3,3
That's facts, but the hardest for me to make on this list were number 20 and the last one LMAO
Buff lee bruhh
Very good but not true max damage combos. Off of df+2 you can get 4u3 b2f~ b2f~ b2f~ b2f~ f4,1 f2,1 but it's extremely difficult.
That's only off axis, correct?
@@OriginalBlackAce you can get in on axis with a quick sidestep right before the 4u3. Again difficult to do.
@@EyesofAsgaard interesting... I'll check it out
RE HARD XD
Lol!
I see why people don't main lee
Lmao
Many of these aint max damage combos. But good video nontheless.
They are max damage, because it's a non wall stage and no rage
@@coolamericano I get it, but still it aint max damage
can you put notation on his max dmg I wanna learn lee
luck y If you want to learn Lee max damage combos aint ideal because they are inconsistent. Try learn his bnb combo.
Mmh Nothing special, just the same ol Lee combos. But I'm not into optimal or most damaging combos. I'm more of a stylish combo kinda guy.
Most Lee players like more stylish combos, so I understand
What can i see is that More than half is not even related with s3.... waste of time
These are max damage combos in season 3 for Lee... Every combo is the most optimal for the season, which means it's related smh
@@OriginalBlackAce u said optimal? Ure saying that 66dmg for uf4 is optimal? Worthless to say more lol
@@mengshs I would say you must not be a Lee player, but maybe you just don't understand what optimal combos are
Lee can get 67 off hopkick and 66 off df2 now
@@mengshs stfu bitch