39:46 has replaced the Highgate Woods trance guy as my favourite Crimewatch moment. The two dogs definitely saved that lady from a horrible fate. I love the way the guy decided even with a knife and the dogs perhaps not fully grown that it was a battle he couldn't win. The dogs ironically were going for obedience lessons. Well, they didn't need to be taught how to protect their owner and maybe obedience lessons would be counter-productive in a situation like the lady was in.
Crazy watching these back now, seeing the Rachel Nickell appeal, and then in this episode seeing the 'Green Chain' appeal and knowing that Robert Napper was responsible for both.
That first case where the bloke had a grudge and just randomly steamed into the Old couples house after speaking to them....weirdest case on crimewatch ?
Yes i know mate that was one of the bizarre crinewtch reconstructions ever . Due to broken marriage he commits aggravated burglary he'll get 8 years for that cos of the shot gun aimed at the old couple.. Someone broke my marriage too taking revenge was very tempting but prison is not for me so eventually took me years to get over it and I didn't end up taking revenge
Keep on hoping! The solicitor has apparently been dead for the last 26 years, so that's one witness who can't confirm anything! Whole thing sounds like a terrible waste. 😔 And yes, I love that doggie 🐕
John taylor commited rapes in the 1980s and abducted and killed 16 year old leanne tiernan in November 2000 as she walked home from Christmas shopping.
Man: "I've killed your dog." Grandad: "No, no, no - I said *FILL* my dog! Fill. Fill him with food. 🤦" And he sounded like he took the instruction as so matter of fact as well.
@@kdwskdws yeah if they had kept the format the same as the earlier Crimewatch it would still be fantastic. Terrible shame they cancelled it, esp the crap they put on now.
Imagine if they filmed old school crimewatch reconstructions now. People would have their smartphones out like bees to honey and it will be uploaded within minutes. Remembering a few reconstructions it seems like they filmed them by closing off roads so they could film. That wouldn't be possible now due to the growth of the population since then
@@Starlord80s Yeah On the face of it it looks like poor wheelers went through an ordeal , Some of these lawyers are ruthless and whatever happened all.they years ago obviously had a baring on the attackers family
@@soulbrother61 Seems incredible if they couldn't work out who did it-how many cases would the firm have been involved with where they 'ruined a life'? No doubt it would have been a lengthy litigation process & likely threats of violence etc from the guy & daddy dearest that would be on record.
It returned after the programme received an avalanche of letters (these were the days when emails were more-or-less unheard of) asking for its reinstatement. Additionally, a regional ITV programme in the south east of England titled "Crime Monthly" (a sort-of tabloid Crimewatch) used it, and according to Nick Ross, "That really IS a crime."
@@treasurehunteruk9718 I wasn't quite happy with the original version so I deleted and reposted. There are a few minor differences. Sorry - I'm a pedant. :-(
@@treasurehunteruk9718 Here's a link (assuming it works) to a "Crime Monthly" video about the Rettendon killings in 1995. Please note that the title incorrectly alludes to the BBC's national "Crimewatch" programme - which it obviously isn't, as the report quite clearly begins following a commercial break. The poster is Bernard O'Mahoney, a former criminal turned know-all. ua-cam.com/video/dOm4waNyvVA/v-deo.html HTH. 🙂
Another securicor/group 4/security express raid. This is on just about every crimewatch in the late 80`s/early 90`s. Didn't the van have a panic button inside in case of a gun man attacking ?
Yes they press an alarm on many of the reconstructions but I doubt the alarms were linked to anything back then (eg. The police/their control room/an alarm control room) I get the impression they just made that pathetic noise to attract attention , probably the intention was that their customer (banks/shops) would phone Police/hit their own silent alarms/ immediately. There is a very scary 1991 reconstruction where a Hertfordshire Securicor van that is hijacked, has a GPS tracker linked to it's control room and a silent alarm , and it worked , the hijackers had to leave the van and run away empty handed. It's called South Mimms Services Securicor Raid .
Crimewatch - Nov 1992 15:10 "I was in the woods looking for wild fungi that my family & I like to eat......" Crimewatch - Dec 1992 "Can you help police trace this man? All his family died after he fed them poisonous mushrooms". :(
we are calling on all men who have used prostitutes....Steven takes his wife in for support...she's like....oh...it's ok...sometimes I have a headache and Steven needs to release...
@@MsVanorak yes but this was 1992. He could have worked on 100s of cases similar to this. But I do agree with you because I feel that they didn't tell us the full story
this episode seems to be the build up to my enborne lodge boarding school travels in berkshire in 93, nick and the van in lamborne area on business just like the table tennis tournament that we played in there. Crime watch seems to be the driving force behind most of my journeys, the names of all the individuals in the boarding school that corospond with my sordid past. like the government opened this boarding to get even or some thing. vindictive government or what, chat to your supremist cousins, there saying your not pulling your weight in the graveyard, and BA from your supremist cousins.
@@STEJTHEGREATEST I wouldn't know about councils housing or the eviction procedure. You will have to tell us all about your experience so others don't end up a Jeremy Kyle reject. Give to back to society for once etc etc.
@@nathaniliescu4597 Jeremy Kyle isn't even on TV anymore. Seems like there's more proof that since being kicked out of your council house, you've been living/sleeping in skodas with your fellow loser friends, unable to catch any TV to be aware of such changed.
If the rapist from the end of this episode, has collar length hair, then why are they showing him in the videofit with short hair?? In the remake, they showed the actor playing the rapist with longer, collar length hair, but the videofit picture showed a guy with a short haircut....I'm pretty sure the artist was stoned on that day. Lol
I wonder if that's the same man shown in the Rachel Nickell murder segment (September 1992) - not the more well known one with short hair, but the one shown just before with _longer_ hair (and a sort of side profile of his face)??? It's only just occurred to me, that it might be the same individual.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 It's not the guy with the long hair in the Rachel Nickell case, but the main photofit. His name is Robert Napper, who went on to kill 3 people, one of them being Rachel Nickell.
That's how people say shire when a suffix on a county name - what's he supposed to say. He does say transit weird though trar nsit. Sounds like he's a working class copper trying to make his accent posher to go with his top copper job and telly role and getting it all wrong.
Watched them all 84 till the last year month by month. Better than jez kyle. An who watched that shite like big bro an all them other daft set up shows.
I was just 20 years old when this was originally shown on TV, it's amazing how quickly the years have flown by.
Old crusty
Said that meself flys by.
I was only a few months old when this was aired originally
ye i was 20 as well
:(
12th November 1992 my birthday... So happy birthday to me in an hour!! Retro crimewatch is my gift to myself...
Fkin right you sound like me yow little sociopath Broadmore tap.
I used to get a big slab of dairy milk in an glass of milk. Loved the armed robberies. Not long after I began mine.
@@edwardburnsen-hicks2721 Even Dairy Milk isn't owned by the same people these days. It has all changed.
Imagine hurting the elderly couple, it's disgraceful.
It was and shooting an innocent puppy
@@margaretbanks8969 Was he ever caught? *Hope so!*
I hope he was caught and never comes out
Thank you so much Redcard for these episode, i am well and truly hooked. Good evening all.
Thanks RC. The Rover SD1 in the intro is nice to see. Not many left now.
perfect timing,just what i needed to watch on a very wet Sunday afternnoon....Thanks Redcard...
What a fantastic Chanel for winter nights and rainy days and Sundays excellent contents
Smells nice too. Was it no. 5 or 7?
The bloke playing Napper would have made an excellent John Cannan look-wise.
Yeah absolutely, he looks the spitting image of Cannan. Doesn't look anything like Napper tho!
Love these old ones. Much better than the new ones with Rav etc. Then they stopped altogether......
39:46 has replaced the Highgate Woods trance guy as my favourite Crimewatch moment. The two dogs definitely saved that lady from a horrible fate. I love the way the guy decided even with a knife and the dogs perhaps not fully grown that it was a battle he couldn't win. The dogs ironically were going for obedience lessons. Well, they didn't need to be taught how to protect their owner and maybe obedience lessons would be counter-productive in a situation like the lady was in.
Crazy watching these back now, seeing the Rachel Nickell appeal, and then in this episode seeing the 'Green Chain' appeal and knowing that Robert Napper was responsible for both.
that wat they get 4 help a man dunno y they botherd they fuck treat them like tha
Yh Samantha and 4 year old jasmine Bisett ... been confirmed now
Rachel nickel murder and the murder of Lesley molseed was the most upsetting ever..
thev man who took the hostage farm they helped him out them they robbed him
Convicted the wrong man for Rachel
Thanks this is great .
That poor puppy, poor baby :(
I know it's awful, what a terrible person to do such a thing, an absolute psychopath ☹️
😢💔🙏🏻🌈
Thanks RedCard74 & Hullo everyone.
Thanks for uploading these!
That first case where the bloke had a grudge and just randomly steamed into the Old couples house after speaking to them....weirdest case on crimewatch ?
Yes i know mate that was one of the bizarre crinewtch reconstructions ever . Due to broken marriage he commits aggravated burglary he'll get 8 years for that cos of the shot gun aimed at the old couple..
Someone broke my marriage too taking revenge was very tempting but prison is not for me so eventually took me years to get over it and I didn't end up taking revenge
Anyone know if he got caught ?
@@muk8804 nope, he didn't.
@yortzandat of course
@yortzandat yes.
Evening all you crimewatchers.......
Evening all. 26 years ago. Yikes.
@@interstat2222 what??
@@eddieedwards5668 This was 26 years ago!
@@interstat2222 you're right, sorry.....
That poor elderly couple went through a terrible ordeal. I hope he was caught.
Google says the solicitor passed away in 1996 so most likely the suspect wasn't caught (there's nothing online about it anyway)
with British policing they probably stitched up an innocent person
Solicitors are still stealing off vulnerable clients some deserve wot they get b4 they run to their graves
@@beejjas3321 Yes, that totally justifies terrorising an elderly couple and killing a defenceless and harmless puppy 🙄Jesus.
@@hihowareyouthen the puppy did not deserve it at all
That time already must be Redcar 74 on a mission this weekend he's faster than the polis
The poor black girl :( hearing her mother talk was so sad .
It was bloody difficult to follow aswell 😂
Shut up doll face. Fed up of seeing you comment on every goddamn episode.
BlytheWorld1972 do you know Nathan?
@@1975ukandbored no no idea who it is .. but iv reported this account and i know others have too .
BlytheWorld1972 good
6:32, the attacker didn't need to treat those elderly 80 year old couple so roughly!
Remember it was only a reconstruction so it was probably way more violent that what was shown
Don't forget poor little Jeremy 😢💔🙏🏻🌈
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Yes until about 2007 they always downplayed the violence.
Jacqui was just perfect at this time. Her looks, her elegance, her voice, she's like an angel....
Farming as a retirement? Seems like something you would need to retire from not to
32:29 The guy on the left of Nick is the bloke from the e-fit 3 secinds before 😄😄
I freaking love these
What a twat that man killing the poor puppy. Hope he got caught.
Keep on hoping!
The solicitor has apparently been dead for the last 26 years, so that's one witness who can't confirm anything!
Whole thing sounds like a terrible waste. 😔
And yes, I love that doggie 🐕
Those that harm animals are the Devil's Spawn 🤬
Poor little Jeremy 😢💔🙏🏻🌈
If Yvonne Fitt had been working the Mannigham streets 16 years earlier she might have had the misfortune to have encountered Peter Sutcliffe.
One suspect for yvonnes murder is convicted murderer and rapist John Taylor
Just hearing those names again was kinda eerie
Peter Sutcliffe is just a Patsy, a scapegoat, a Shirley. What have you
@@ianbousfield5007 is that John Taylor a serial murderer then, or did he just specialise in killing prostitutes alone?....🤔🤔🤔
John taylor commited rapes in the 1980s and abducted and killed 16 year old leanne tiernan in November 2000 as she walked home from Christmas shopping.
FA Cup, done. Chores, done. Classic Crimewatch...cheers Redcard!
Four years later and THIS year's World Cup is still on. UK just booted out, and waiting for the final next weekend. How time flies ............
So sad to think about the amount of prostitutes that have been murdered and picked on due to their vulnerability. Really sad.
All the way back to Jack The Ripper and probably before.
Mate, I’d have done time if anyone had dared to hurt my Nan and grandad. Period.
Man: "I've killed your dog."
Grandad: "No, no, no - I said *FILL* my dog! Fill. Fill him with food. 🤦"
And he sounded like he took the instruction as so matter of fact as well.
I highly doubt it when the police can’t catch him. How do you expect yourself to catch the perpetrator? 😵💫
Does anyone know why crimewatch was canceled?
I thought it was doing rather well in catching villains.
They changed the format a lot, Nick Ross Sue Cook and a load of other presenters left the show in turn people stopped watching
UK turned ghetto
@@kdwskdws yeah if they had kept the format the same as the earlier Crimewatch it would still be fantastic. Terrible shame they cancelled it, esp the crap they put on now.
It was brilliant. Scandalous decision by BBC.
Imagine if they filmed old school crimewatch reconstructions now. People would have their smartphones out like bees to honey and it will be uploaded within minutes. Remembering a few reconstructions it seems like they filmed them by closing off roads so they could film. That wouldn't be possible now due to the growth of the population since then
What a strange case is the 1st one... can't find any info on it
It's odd when you can't find any information about a case, especially when it's only a couple of years before the internet became popular.
I could not find anything about the attack either. The poor Wheelers and their dog.
@@Starlord80s Yeah On the face of it it looks like poor wheelers went through an ordeal , Some of these lawyers are ruthless and whatever happened all.they years ago obviously had a baring on the attackers family
@@soulbrother61 Seems incredible if they couldn't work out who did it-how many cases would the firm have been involved with where they 'ruined a life'? No doubt it would have been a lengthy litigation process & likely threats of violence etc from the guy & daddy dearest that would be on record.
Yeah you would think they'd have solved this
If being brave and watching in bed. Lol
You are one ugly fuck.
@Jack frost's Icey Ramen I was quite mean there. Oh dear lol.
The only thing I can find online about the Abdul Maneer murder was a report from 2010 that it was still unsolved
The Bristol Brandon Hill sex attack sounds awful. How could anyone assult a 6 yr old?
33:23-Alright calm down, calm down.
Ey... yeh mean 32:23 Dats are Baz...Alright
First reconstruction, the lady says he was wearing blue jeans. Lo & behold he's wearing dark trousers 🤔
I keep thinking the phones going to ring!
It may well do … Hatcher is on to you. Do you have a miss-tosh?
3:33 late 40s 50s?! looks about 70
Good to see fish and chips making a very welcome return to CW.
Billy don't be a hero. As the lyric said.
28:26 THAT VAN LOOKS LIKE IT HAS EYES!!!!!!!! IT'D BE SCARY TO HAVE IT COMING UP TO YOU ON THE STREET!!!!!!! ;*( ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ;*(
I thought Nick said they were going to stop the 'Don't have nightmares' catchphrase.
It returned after the programme received an avalanche of letters (these were the days when emails were more-or-less unheard of) asking for its reinstatement. Additionally, a regional ITV programme in the south east of England titled "Crime Monthly" (a sort-of tabloid Crimewatch) used it, and according to Nick Ross, "That really IS a crime."
@@janettemohan7739 Is Crime Monthly on You Tube? I would like to see it.
@@janettemohan7739 Did you type the same comment twice? I got it 10 minutes ago, then 40 minutes ago. Exactly the same paragraph!
@@treasurehunteruk9718 I wasn't quite happy with the original version so I deleted and reposted. There are a few minor differences.
Sorry - I'm a pedant. :-(
@@treasurehunteruk9718 Here's a link (assuming it works) to a "Crime Monthly" video about the Rettendon killings in 1995.
Please note that the title incorrectly alludes to the BBC's national "Crimewatch" programme - which it obviously isn't, as the report quite clearly begins following a commercial break. The poster is Bernard O'Mahoney, a former criminal turned know-all.
ua-cam.com/video/dOm4waNyvVA/v-deo.html
HTH. 🙂
And they keeping coming, cheers.
"He has brown collar lenght hair " - she said. Whilst showing a photo fit 8f someone with very short hair.
How ineffective can it get?
Whatever
Make sure we're all paying attention .....
Another securicor/group 4/security express raid. This is on just about every crimewatch in the late 80`s/early 90`s. Didn't the van have a panic button inside in case of a gun man attacking ?
Yes they press an alarm on many of the reconstructions but I doubt the alarms were linked to anything back then (eg. The police/their control room/an alarm control room) I get the impression they just made that pathetic noise to attract attention , probably the intention was that their customer (banks/shops) would phone Police/hit their own silent alarms/ immediately. There is a very scary 1991 reconstruction where a Hertfordshire Securicor van that is hijacked, has a GPS tracker linked to it's control room and a silent alarm , and it worked , the hijackers had to leave the van and run away empty handed. It's called South Mimms Services Securicor Raid .
@M UK Ah yes I have seen that one. The strangest thing about that reconstruction was the police using a metro as the car persusing the van.
13.06 plate tectonics...Edinburgh has moved a little since the 1990s
how awfully posh were the couple on the farm..and in 1992 geez 🧐
She sounded like the queen.
And he retired at 81?! 😮
Crimewatch - Nov 1992 15:10 "I was in the woods looking for wild fungi that my family & I like to eat......"
Crimewatch - Dec 1992 "Can you help police trace this man? All his family died after he fed them poisonous mushrooms". :(
we are calling on all men who have used prostitutes....Steven takes his wife in for support...she's like....oh...it's ok...sometimes I have a headache and Steven needs to release...
The really nice people who work on the farm . How could anybody treat people like this. And a complete basterd killing the dog
42:35 To talk to someone about cannabis press the hash key
Reefer Madness comes to life.
🤣
@@Hi-kq1vi Evil. Hawkwind were on to it. I mean, on it.
Evening all
That black guy in the opening sequence needs looking into. Stealing a ball with menaces and acting as a look out for the rover sdi
Sue Cook >> Jill Dandy
Nothing sicker than a proud sec offender 😞 - makes your blood boil!
Did they ever find the man who attacked the elderly couple?
I don't think so and I think the solicitor passed away in 1996
should have been pretty simple - just look back through his work files and find out who lost a bungalow.
@@MsVanorak yes but this was 1992. He could have worked on 100s of cases similar to this. But I do agree with you because I feel that they didn't tell us the full story
I think in a later episode it does say he was found 🤔
That git with his bloody mobile is about again.
14:41 14:45 what do I do guys do I call the number or is it too late now? I dabble in both
good timeing
this episode seems to be the build up to my enborne lodge boarding school travels in berkshire in 93, nick and the van in lamborne area on business just like the table tennis tournament that we played in there. Crime watch seems to be the driving force behind most of my journeys, the names of all the individuals in the boarding school that corospond with my sordid past. like the government opened this boarding to get even or some thing. vindictive government or what, chat to your supremist cousins, there saying your not pulling your weight in the graveyard, and BA from your supremist cousins.
SHIT. 33m:49s how terrified would you be if you were that kid ;?!?! FREAK MAN.
Was the rapist featured ever caught?
Yes, that was Robert Napper, rapist and murderer. He killed Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon Common in 1992.
The one who shows a photo of himself?
Yes he was, but unfortunately he went on to kill three people, one of them Rachel Nickell. His name is Robert Napper.
33:45 DID YOU JUST GIVE ME THE FINGER, KID??????? *GOES INTO KARATE STANCE* YOU JUST FLIPPED OFF THE WRONG PERSON, SON.
@@nathaniliescu4597 What's the matter son????? Have you been thrown out of your council house or something?
@@STEJTHEGREATEST I wouldn't know about councils housing or the eviction procedure. You will have to tell us all about your experience so others don't end up a Jeremy Kyle reject. Give to back to society for once etc etc.
@@nathaniliescu4597 Jeremy Kyle isn't even on TV anymore. Seems like there's more proof that since being kicked out of your council house, you've been living/sleeping in skodas with your fellow loser friends, unable to catch any TV to be aware of such changed.
26:42 The Three Stooges
If the rapist from the end of this episode, has collar length hair, then why are they showing him in the videofit with short hair?? In the remake, they showed the actor playing the rapist with longer, collar length hair, but the videofit picture showed a guy with a short haircut....I'm pretty sure the artist was stoned on that day. Lol
I wonder if that's the same man shown in the Rachel Nickell murder segment (September 1992) - not the more well known one with short hair, but the one shown just before with _longer_ hair (and a sort of side profile of his face)???
It's only just occurred to me, that it might be the same individual.
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 It's not the guy with the long hair in the Rachel Nickell case, but the main photofit. His name is Robert Napper, who went on to kill 3 people, one of them being Rachel Nickell.
Poor little Jeremy!!!!!!! 😢 💔🙏🏻🌈
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I think the rapist has been on the Jeremy kyle show
33:44 Did he seriously show the boy a poster and say, "See that? It's me."
No it was a joke that crimewatch added for laughs
@@lukewilly Thought so, I mean, what kind of criminal shows their own wanted poster, "See that? It's me."
The way David Hatcher says any county that ends in "shire" is proper odd e.g. "sheeer"
Frank Garrett are you a sweaty ? 😃🏴
That's how people say shire when a suffix on a county name - what's he supposed to say. He does say transit weird though trar nsit. Sounds like he's a working class copper trying to make his accent posher to go with his top copper job and telly role and getting it all wrong.
10:05 The efit looks nothing like the actor in reconstruction.
Lol it's not meant to look like the actor. It's meant to look like the perpetrator.
A HWHyte Traarnsit van.
Early.
Its Rodney Trotter
Watched them all 84 till the last year month by month. Better than jez kyle. An who watched that shite like big bro an all them other daft set up shows.
38.00 sounds like she doesn't take care of her teeth, sounds like a few are missing. 100% she was on benefits.
So?
37.50 - I bet she's on benefits and has missing teeth - sounds like she's missing a fair few!!
@5.20
I don’t spose I could shelter in your barn could I ?
‘Yes sure’
Where is it?
WTF