Crimewatch UK September 1992
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2018
- Sue Cook and Nick Ross present. Cases include the murder of Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon common, an armed robbery on a post office van in Chesterfield, a kidnap in Cheshire and the murder of Kate Rackliff in Camberley.
The nightmare started for poor Colin Stagg right after this appeal when the police arrested him.
Katie Rackliff was murdered by Sharon Carr in a random attack. Carr was only twelve when she murdered the poor girl.
Carr got locked up in a hospital for this murd ,also Richard fielding and Kenneth erskine both murd 7 yt people and Stephen akinmurele 5 Peter Bryan 3 and gareeca Gordon and Darren pencile and gareeca Gordon and Zephaniah McLeod all murd 1 yt person,all mental health card
Thanks Redcard, appreciate the extra uploads given the previous two being ones already here! Great work mate.
'Its easy to eliminate those who are innocent'. Poor Colin Stagg.
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This was stated multiple times over the years and was probably the most untrue statement ever said on Crimewatch.
"Easy to eliminate innocent people" - What about Barry George?
@@paulvaughan3699 Or Stefan Kiszko.
Her baby who was scratched and bruised and was clutching to her dead body...
never have i cried so much in my life, that got me
taking a mothers life while her baby is right their'' Hell has a special for Rachel's killer
That broke my heart too, poor Rachel & her son. Killer was wicked beyond all belief. 😢😢
Too heart breaking of a story to read her poor baby
The following year the killer was to kill both the mother and baby.
I always wondered why the police decided Colin Stagg was Rachel's killer. He went back to the common a few minutes after the murder was discovered, having been there earlier that day, he had gone home with a headache but went back out with his dog when he felt better. He saw the police cordon and told them that he had been there earlier that day, perhaps because he thought it could be useful for them when gathering evidence. Why would he tell the police he was there if he was the actual killer? Also, I saw a documentary about Sharon Carr (Kate Rackliff's killer) presented by Jo Frost (Supernanny) and it annoyed me how almost everyone interviewed in it was making out like she was the victim because of her 'poor, abusive background.' Loads of kids are brought up in those sort of environments but they don't go on to kill but when they do, society sits and makes excuses for them, mollycoddling them further to the extent where they think they can get away with anything because they'll be protected for being 'an innocent child' they did the same with James Bulger's killers, they didn't even go to prison, they were sent to approved school and look what happened to one of them.
Too long didn't read. Wanker.
@@nathaniliescu4597 is that even needed? No it isn't. Don't read it if you don't like it
That's good old Britain for ya
@@dominewimbury2039 please forgive Nathan, he has a number of psychology , personality and anger issues . He obviously feels his only option to advance in life is to drag everyone else down to his level . A classic example that Care in the Community programs don't work ..
Colin Stagg was stiched up very badly. His life ruined on nothing. No circumstantial evidence nothing. He lived at the time in Balham and still does today. Not far from the common. He only appeared to the police because he was walking his dog in that area that day. He was going to eneter the common but a policeman said he could not enter because something happened. So he told the officer he was in the area that day and he voluentered his help and gave the officer his number. The rest is history. He wasn't strange like the media made him out to be he was a loner, so is many many people in london. But the police was convinced it was him and with this shoddy 'physiatrist' paul britton basically stiched him when everything was shouting code red robert napper. The detective left soon after and he 'retired'. No doubt enjoying his comfortable police pension.
Craig swanns body was found in 1993.He was a big time drug dealer who was killed by a rival.
I'm from Chesterfield and I'm 36.
I remember coming out of Kwik Save on Whittington Moor with my mum after the big shop.
They were filming the reconstruction!
I watched Crimewatch even then because I stayed at my grandparents every Saturday (so mum and dad could go out) and they let me stay up and watch it. I understood what was going on.
It's so strange watching it now, knowing my 10 year old self was out of shot, watching this being filmed.
The big shop... love it
I'm from York and I'm 46
Was it solved
I’m 33 and don’t care...
Crimewatch was ALWAYS on a Thursday night so you couldn't have watched t on a Saturday
Yikes...the truth about the Katie Rackliff murder is horrific. Killed by a 12 year-old psychopathic girl, Sharon Carr, who is STILL in prison because she's so dangerous! (Sorry if that's a total spoiler, but shows that the reconstruction is totally erroneous...)
The spooky man in the nightclub and the blue van. All irrelevant.
A murder solved solely by chance. Every assumption made by the officers led them nowhere. You could show that reconstruction in a lecture on cognitive bias.
Does go to show how some people would have gotten away because of these red herrings.
I never would have believed it til I saw it
Robert Nappers Mum did call the Police and gave her sons name but was ignored as they wanted Colin Stagg.
unfortunately that was only in relation to a rape, near his home on plumstead common I believe. When the police could find no record of a rape being reported at that time they took no further action.
@@felisdom2739 It happened in 1989 on nearby Purrett Rd, SE18 that backs onto Winns common that is connected to Plumstead common, they are both collectively known to locals at Plumstead common.
The kidnapper was caught and convicted in 1994. Tony Bosson-Williams who was 26 at the time was sentenced to a total of 14 years. He had tried to kidnap another bank manager's wife beforehand. He was listed as a company director for two months in 2002, company now dissolved.
So he's out now ............
@@treasurehunteruk9718 wouldnt be the UK if the sentencing wasnt soft
@@treasurehunteruk9718 lol yes, was probably released around 2001. People do change though, you'd be surprised how many people you deal with in everyday life who did crazy things when younger, for whatever reason, but are now normal well behaved citizens. I guess if their names don't keep coming up on the news that's a good sign!
@@whimspooch The damage they did is not repairable. We often hear the victim gets a life sentence. I saw one vid where a woman was raped at knifepoint and kept in a caravan for days. He let her go, and they got him. He was given 7 years, then the judge reduced it to 5 years, cos the rapist did not use the knife, it was only a threat. That woman is never going to forget that ordeal, and some thick judge thinks 5 years is long enough! Even if the criminal did change his ways, what about her?
Really appreciate your work tonight redcard, thanks!
That kidnap reconstruction by the bogus policeman stuck in my mind since childhood thanx for uploading such a flashback.
At 4:30 when the witnesses said they saw a man crouched down, well that disturbingly was Napper washing his hands in the steam. I just read an interview with the son saying he remember seeing the man washing his hands in the stream. He said how he was 3 years old clinging to his mother saying “mummy please wake up” about three times till he realised she wouldn’t wake up. Poor kid saw the rape, the murder and had to deal with his fathers depression after it all. So so very sad. The father and son ended up moving to France to get away from the paparazzi and even then were hounded out there. This Napper scumbag ruined so many lives. It just isn’t fair
N9 HCT thank god things like this are so much harder to get away with now. Too many cameras and phones everywhere
Blind Freddie could see the uncanny resemblance between the E fit and Robert Napper . How can a witness give an accurate estimation of height when he was kneeling down washing his hands for crying out loud ?
Can you find me the interview where The son says this ? This is very interesting as Napper was know to have extreme OCD with cleanliness growing up , reportedly.
I've seen part of the Chesterfield reconstruction before but never the full reconstruction! Nice to see my hometown on Crimewatch - in a weird way.
The blue van and man in the nightclub had nothing to do with Kate's murder. Talk about red herrings.
Well…they fuked up with the Katie Rackliff murder didnt they!
Oh Rachael’s case is on here! This was the case that got me hooked on true crime. And the case that was the polices biggest cock up! I was hooked on this case for years
@Prophet Mo-Ham-Head 😂😂 grow up little boy
unfortunately I'd disagree and say the Rachel Nickel case is far from the biggest high profile police cock up.
Erm the yorkshire ripper case 😂
Ahh. The infamous Colin Stagg incident
HollowGaming poor guy was totally fitted-up. Disgraceful behaviour by the police.
The e fit on this episode is so close to Robert Napper it’s amazing!
Another wonderful tabloid led with witch-hunt of an innocent man. The old bill really went to town on this one-letting a profiler run the case for them, enlisting a female officer to write Stagg lurid letters detailing how she liked men who killed & how it turned her on etc. Robert Napper in the meantime was left free to rape & murder-as he did in 1994-killing a young mother & then raping & suffocating her four year old daughter, before chopping the mother into pieces & taking bits away as a trophy.
@@stephenroche4897 The judge was not impressed with what the police put in front of him to say the least.
Its possibly Napper killed more. One unsolved case featured in a 1993 episode already uploaded has a lot of similarities.
The man was tall, over 5' 10" so why did anyone think it could be Colin Stagg?
They were bang on with that profile of Rachel's killer, totally was like Napper!
Makes the stitch up of Colin Stagg even worse
Thanks redcard74 for the upload! As the series go on, I like the studios less. The Incident Desk looks like an afterthought here. David and Jacqui are just squeezed into sharing a desk with the researchers.
I'm rewatching crimewatch in sequence, I was putting this episode off because the fist case is beyond harrowing for so many reasons .
Through out British legal history the police have rounded up a fall guy during so many high profile cases ; Colin Stagg , Barry George , Stefan Kiszko , Derek Bentley , Timothy Evans , Birmingham six and James Hanratty . How many more one wonders ? All the victims of lies and perjury by the police , Government scientist , false witnesses and the CPS . Yet no officials face charges . Shameful .
I understand the need to appease the public , but to do so , sometimes knowing conclusively that the defendant is innocent is abhorrent . I would rather the police simply state they have tried their hardest but have run out of ideas and avenues to explore .
Don’t forget the five in Cardiff charged with murdering Lynette, wasn’t even them 🤦🏻♂️
@@neilt4723 That was a shocker . The police officers in charge should have been jailed . Corrupt Cops are worse than the criminals they investigate .
Public appeasement is a load of rubbish.
They don't "need" it - the irrationally hysterical do.
The public have had mechanisms in place for centuries to deter such activity from befalling them, but (either wilfully or ignorantly) have nothing to do with the measures.
They'd rather the innocent suffer - and put it out of their minds - than do a single thing to address the underlying cause(s) of such an incident themselves.
Beneath contempt.
the E fit is robert napper, not colin stagg. stagg is only a small man, but napper was tall. hindsight is a wonderful thing. the cops fucked up big time going after stagg.
The heinous creature Robert Napper also killed Jean Bradley.
May he rot in hell.
Colin Stagg was stiched up very badly. His life ruined on nothing. No circumstantial evidence nothing. He lived at the time in Balham and still does today. Not far from the common. He only appeared to the police because he was walking his dog in that area that day. He was going to eneter the common but a policeman said he could not enter because something happened. So he told the officer he was in the area that day and he voluentered his help and gave the officer his number. The rest is history. He wasn't strange like the media made him out to be he was a loner, so is many many people in london. But the police was convinced it was him and with this shoddy 'physiatrist' paul britton basically stiched him when everything was shouting code red robert napper. The detective left soon after and he 'retired'. No doubt enjoying his comfortable police pension.
Cheers RedCard74 ! don't know can't remember if ive seen this one before or not but ill still watch Cheers haha 😁
thanks redcard74 iv seen may and June 1992 but not this one
Thanks Buddy, always a pleasure in the evenings, keep up the great uploads......
Ah the famous Chesterfield armed robbery that's already on here. A bizarre reconstruction from the Del Boy and Rodders lookalikes to the blazing car in the woods with the man in the suit casually walking out!
Lmao I thought that too YESS lol
The hosts have started standing in the phone area for the first time I see.
Let
Me guess, “this is when crimewatch went downhill” hahaha
@@TheOne-fe8wkWe get to see Susie’s nice legs, a rarity before now. She stands nicely, too.
I was about 11 when the Rachel Nickell murder happened and it was a huge story, i knew her face as soon as i saw it here, the image of her running in the red gloves must have been shown hundreds of times i'll never forget it, a chilling, terrifying and genuinely heartbreking case, the case of the mother and her 2 daughters that were attacked by a madman with hammer and one of the daughters survived, i think her name was josie, that was another horrific case, also the woman who killed her boyfriend and blamed it on a road rage incident, chilling stuff, nobody should have their lives taken in such horror and violence, rip to them all
7.49..."is easy to eliminate people that are innocent"...hmmm really?
Sutcliffe?
Hi. I was just wondering if someone could help. I am looking for a particular episode. It’s one about an Chinese man who was killed and someone called the hospitals as he was arriving
Simon Tang june 1996
The armed robbery reconstruction is the one that’s been on UA-cam for years strange pair wonder if they were ever caught
Bring Crimewatch back
Wasn’t Robert Napper the main suspect in the Rachel Nickell murder. The Jean Bradley murder had a killer that carried around a black bag wrapped around a knife, I believe that is still unsolved.
No colin stagg was the main suspect
Absolutely, Robert Napper almost certainly murdered Jean Bradley, the witness who chased him said the man held up an object wrapped in a black bag and lunged towards him. He was also tall and walked with a stoop. Unfortunately there is not enough evidence to charge him with that one, but at least he has been off the streets since 1994.
The police were obsessed with Stagg because of forensic psychology but Napper admitted the murders.
@@felisdom2739 Where the witness mentioned him walking almost bent forward gave me shivers as the Jean Bradley suspect did exactly the same in fact the actor did a good job at portraying it. The black bag with the knife, the stoop even the way the victims were stabbed, I believe both Rachel and Jean were attacked from behind and from the side. Jean as she was leaning into the back door of her car and I think Rachel from the side. Had to be Napper.
@@user-br3bw7wr2l Yes. Napper also had asperger's syndrome, which I am familiar with, and the way his clothes were ill fitted fits with the way alot of people with aspergers portray themselves, they often are not great with self care/appearance, not to mention the ridiculous souwester hat he was wearing.
Regarding the stoop. Rachel Nickells poor child never forgot it...years later he saw a random man walking in a similar manner and had a panic attack, his father recalled.
Horrible, but as I said at least he has been incarcerated since 94.
How many blue Transit vans have been mentioned or have appeared on CW? More to come … probably from Liverpool or Bristol.
9:30. Peter Kay's television debut? x
Lol fkin what I thought
Think this is the first episode I didn’t watch as I have no memory of anything in it. It was the day after ‘Black Wednesday’ which I do recall where I was that day.
Time share ! Who remembers those ? What a scam.
Nick said in the earlier episode before the summer break, he would not say 'don't have nightmares' again!
I never did trust him … and he wears a wig.
The weather's just lovely
“One man has gone right to the top of their priority list.” I wonder just who that could have been.
Remember Mary bell she was 10 years old in 1968
Did the woman not think it odd that a police officer in full uniform would not be in a panda car with blues & two's flashing? Did senior bank staff not have training for them & their families about security?
people from the estate where stagg lived rang the incident room after this episode aired. they were dead set on framing poor colin.
Why the hell is Liz Kerr blacked out in the reconstruction only for them to provide her name in the ident & also show her home constantly in the video. Kind of defeats the purpose
How they set up Colin Stag was disgusting. That poor guy.
What happened on 15th July 1992 so horrific
Is ol’ Hatchet-Job threatening us? “… someone is going to get hurt.”
Stick em Down... This is a fuck up!!
33:18 Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack in the background
Bobby brown
That photofit at 3.40 is alarming.
2.58 - i would think he was absolutely involved! A man running in just his boxer shorts with the rest of his (blood stained) clothing in a bundle? Nothing strange about that is there - much! As the level of qolice corruqtion is gradually becoming aqqarent, it surqrises me that more viewers don't question these historical crimes.
@MsVanorak
What's the name of that oh-so famous tongue twister about harvesting a certain vegetable beginning with the 16th letter of the English alphabet?
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 my 'P' key wasn't working so I went with a topological equivalent.
@@MsVanorak I know - well, I _guessed_ to be honest. 🙂
Incidentally, I think that you analysed your initial observations extremely considerately.
I believe that police constabularies are in fact corporations - along with UK GOVERNMENT PLC etc., and that they have agendas to fulfil.
Perhaps you are aware of common law and the freeman philosophy.
I'm more an advocate of _divine_ law, believing that human beings can only ever (ultimately) *guess* the guilt or innocence of others, and that the creator (of our souls) will judge us all perfectly every time - no matter WHAT we deduce.
Sorry if you thought I was teasing you about the last comment - just couldn't resist seeing how that might turn out 😁
@@letsdiscussitoversometea8479 That's alright. The 'P' key is working fine at the moment but the 'G' is oing a bit sticky so i may have to bring the 'q' into play again! :) I've been watching these old episodes in date order lately and I'm convinced that a lot of the unsolved ones are done by the same gang but the convictions are made by entrapment tactics from that gang. Who pays them - it must be the newspapers? Or the German element who have infiltrated the M.I. services. I've been gangstalked since 1988 and entrapment and planting evidence is all in a days work for them - like dangerously tampering with my vehicle when they know I am setting off at 3,00 a.m. I can't decide if the police are corrupt or powerless. Jacqui Haimes was stalked and that was something to do with the Daniel Morgan murder - the P.I. who was going to blow the cover off something.
The bit about it not being a very flattering picture made me laugh 😂
I love the armed robberys and the screams. I'm staying retired. I made 48p on one job.
Armed Robbery ?
@@thespursfan7564 . Oh you love them too or your on a repeater.
@@edwardburnsen-hicks2721 no I was just thinking how much time you done for 48 pence ,pity I never knew ye ,I would've gave you 50 pence to behave yourself
@@thespursfan7564 . Try not to think too hard an for too long with your IQ an mensa cert. I'd not give yow a penny for any of your thoughts. Bye....
@@thespursfan7564 Capital letters an full stops 50p in the sale .....
Rachel an innocent bright woman was loved too obviously.
Ragamuffins 😂👍
I want my mom. Who's got her.. ?
now called Tru.
Did the hand of justice prevail?
more victims of police incompetence.
It's sunday
Kat€ Seemed NiCe Calm honeSt Girl bIG Shame
3:47 why bother having an e-fit at all when that's clearly a photo of Stagg that was 'e-fitted' so to speak...
I concede I obviously have the benefit of hindsight, but I just can't imagine how you could see anybody other than him in that e-fit if you knew him or lived on his estate.
Disgraceful 'appeal'.
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I will set big ginge from shard end on to all the cons on this ep....
The man in front was keeping pace, the man behind was following... no shit sherlock 😂
That was a reconstruction not the real thing.
Simply red playing @ 35:00
Notice white guy standing minding his own business in club becomes prime suspect…while the killer was a completely unrelated girl!!!
Are you sure? Sounds to me more like The Old Shaggers.
Can you put some newish ones on plz
Old ones are ze best
It 's wired. In the discriptions they never say " He /she is black".
But they do say "He is white". Or "An Asian male " .
I take your point, zahria, but I can't think of a better description of a Caucasian person than "white".... apart from "Caucasian", of course, which may have led some CWUK viewers to believe that the suspect was from Baku or Tbilisi.
Waaaaaaaa Waaaaaa...it's not fair!! How dare they not say he's Black. Waaaaaaaa!
I've heard them say he's Afro-Caribbean...
This episode of another iconic TV factual show of the period is well worth watching. ua-cam.com/video/UNmyIWgfHWo/v-deo.html
Anyone catch the Monty Python style visual joke in this episode?
No. Where?
@@valeriemacphail9180 Oh dear that comment was 8 months ago. I've forgotten what I was talking about. All I remember is that it really struck me as odd and very obvious at the time.
@@noongourfain 😁😉👍
Don't these phycologist talk a load of bollocks, ride a bike because it's cheaper than a car. And nowadays it's the norm for people to ride bikes to work. Even M.Ps ride bikes to work now. Although I think that's just to make a political statement to say they care about the environment .
Thank goodness we have got rid of that awful opening & got something with a bit of urgency about it. RIP the green phone card.
Hi think these revised titles were pretty lame and not a patch on the 88-90 titles with the police motorcade.
@@SKisatourist2010 No question the 1980's were the best-but at least this is something, 1991/1992 titles were just awful.
And the BT Tribune in ivory !
-87-89 titles are unbelievably scary with the human eyes close-ups, cctv style video and longer bars of the bass . VERY sinister .
They are all crap, actually. No Securicor vans, so not representative.
This profiler got so many things wrong on napper
He got every right except Marshal arts .Age right unskilled Job right living in a bedsit right no girlfriend right pestered women right low achiever right local man right family knew something was wrong with him right. In your opinion what did he get wrong?
Paul Britton was the profiler. I post the following links without expressing an opinion one way or the other.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/dec/21/uk-crime-law-comment-nick-cohen
www.theguardian.com/g2/story/0,3604,404994,00.html (Typical "Grauniad" misprint here - "Gritton" rather than "Britton".)
No he didn't he had almost everything correct. Have you actual read about the killer?!
You cock.
The profiler's list of characteristics could probably be applied to 90% of murderers.
@@RogerJJSmith not really. Plenty of normal people who most people would trust can be killers except psychos like Napper. Def not 90%
Katie Rackliff killed by Sharon Carr (12)
Sharon Louise Carr (born 1981), also known as 'The Devil's Daughter', is a British woman who is Britain's youngest female murderer.[a] In June 1992, aged only 12, she murdered 18-year-old Katie Rackliff after picking her out at random as she walked home from a nightclub in Camberley.
Carr's case has been noted for being particularly unusual. Whilst female murderers are themselves uncommon, females who kill strangers are even less so, and the case of a 12-year-old girl killing an adult stranger has been described as unique.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_Carr#:~:text=Sharon%20Louise%20Carr%20(born%201981,from%20a%20nightclub%20in%20Camberley.
Evil woman Sharon Carr.