I like the integration of the battery into the inner tube and the light weight of the system but I wonder if and how the battery can be exchanged. A lithium-ion ebike battery usually lasts 2 to 5 years. What happens after that period of time?
Hi there, it's possible to remove and repair or replace the battery with the MAHLE X35 system, though this is a procedure best carried out by a qualified mechanic. Hope that helps to answer your question.
Great video well done, can I please ask a question about the app….. does it show the mileage that the ebike has been ridden….I mean if someone was buying a used ebike with this mahle system on it, could they link their phone app with the ebike and check the bike mileage, thank you
I know it's a little late but - the best way to check the mileage is to check how many volts fully charged battery has - for used one it's better to have more than 40V, 41V is brand new. And so on :)
I saw this motor mainly for road bike. What's the experience on MTB? My concern is there is no torque sensing. Does it feel like cadence sensing? i.e. the speed is set to preset speed based on PAS level. Or feel like more real bike experience like torque sensing? i.e. The power is proportional to the pedal efforts?
How do you turn head/rear lights on or off. When I put power on, the lights come on and stay on all day if use the power. Obviously, this reduces my range and is just a waste when I do not need it. I have tried the iWoc and the app but no joy. Please, can you help me.
Thanks, we're pleased you enjoyed it! To fully charge the 208 Wh range extender will take around 3 hours and the main battery of the bike will be around 3.5 hours but these times are best used as a guide. MAHLE recommends that you do not leave the charger attached to the main battery for more 5 hours - you can find about the other ways to maximise your battery's lifespan here: www.ebikemotion.com/web/ebikemotion-battery-cares/
Great video. I have struggled to find much information on this bike on the net. Will the performance related metrics of the software e.g. battery percentage, range etc integrate in with a wahoo elemnt bolt. I ride with the Wahoo on my bike as opposed to using my phone. Really keen to understand whether this is available
Have you seen our video comparing the eSCULTURA and the eSILEX here? it covers the details between the tune used on those bikes: ua-cam.com/video/ogLvZQQRRv0/v-deo.html The eSPEEDER tune differs as it has a much higher assistance level at low speeds so you can get up to pace with urban traffic and for stop-start riding. Hope that helps!
Hiya, while MAHLE might have that information on a test rig, in the real world, it would very much depend on the terrain and speed and also the map that has been used for the assistance levels so it's not possible to give that information out. All our MAHLE-equipped bikes use different assistance maps too - you can find a little bit more about that here: ua-cam.com/video/ogLvZQQRRv0/v-deo.html
Great video, very well explained, thank you. What happens to the assistance if the rider is putting out (through their legs) more than 250 watts, but travelling at under 25kph?
I have the e Scultura 400 and I am very happy with it. You have to pedal to get any assistance from the motor, and the level will depend on what setting you have selected (low/medium/high), but will cut out at 25kph. On the flat, if you set it on high, it wont need much effort on your part to get a decent speed but if you are peddling hard as well, then you will quickly get up to 25kph and it will then the motor wont help, but there isn't an abrupt cut off, more of a "fade". I tend to have it in "neutral" or low when I'm on the flat, but use medium or high for hills, depending on the severity. If you want the motor to do all the work, this isn't the bike for you. If you want help on hills or long rides, and a bike that still rides well without the motor, then this is a good choice
TL;DR answer: you will reach the top assisted speed really quickly. I have this system in my gt and really like it. Range is decent (50km easy, 250wh) if you put in some effort and and the motor has enough juice to do most of the work if that's your cake. And there's a tuning dongle available to raise the speed limit
@@ChrisThomas-hq2il What if i will just start ghost pedaling, will i just get pushed to 25kph like in normal hub drive?, as i understand this system doesn't have a torque sensor in it.
Hi - I have just taken my ebike back to the shop with an Error36 code whilst using it on a hilly two day ride. I've been told I should be riding with the power ON all the time and then choose the assistance as and when needed. Is this true, was never told this when purchased and w friends have ebikes and also only turn ON when they want assistance. Surely this will drain some power. Thoughts ?
Hi, we've not had any technical information from Mahle that the bike needs to be switched on while riding if assistance is not needed, but we have reached out to them to clarify. However, it may be more convenient to ride with the system switched on but the assistance switched off until needed - this will not consume any significant amount of battery and you will benefit from assistance starting immediately as and when you need it, rather than waiting for the system to power up. Regards, MERIDA
That will depend on your national distributor as they choose which models they stock. We'd suggest you contact them directly here: www.merida-bikes.com/en/p/about-us/distributors-worldwide-139.html Regards, MERIDA
where can I find information on the autonomy of the battery assistance according to the type of electric assistance (low/mid/high) used ? I'am 74kg a road cyclist but I'm searching a sporty e-bike to ride 1h a day (almost 30km) everyday for a urban use mainly to bike to work. Could you help please ? Thanks ! ;-)
Hi there, it's very hard to give exact figures on the range in different settings with this system because it depends on rider input as well as rider weight and the terrain you'll be riding on. For the average user of your weight and on average terrain, 30 km would be no problem, even at the higher assistance settings. You may find this video useful: ua-cam.com/video/wHffqSB6_yM/v-deo.html Regards, MERIDA
@@MERIDABIKES-INT Thanks for your answer Guys ! I'll think about that ! ... I'm on Merida since 2014 and ride Merida Scultura 10K & Reacto 8000 now ! 🙂 Cheers
I have been unable to discover the amount of power provided by the motor for each of the 3 assist levels? Does anyone know of the approximate wattage for each level?
According to Mahle support, unless you change the percentages in the phone app, Level 1 gives up to 100W (40% of max), Level 2 gives up to 175W (70% of max), and Level 3 gives up to 250W (100% of max)
Hi there, the battery is not designed to be user removable. It can be removed by a qualified mechanic after the bottom bracket and drive unit has been removed. Hope that helps!
The ebikemotion phone application had been repalced by a new Mahle application that is mostly useless. It does not remember your bike and so cannot even provide the total distance traveled. When i go to work it refuses to starts before it gets the GPS signal fixed, instead it should start when we ask for it and start recording gps points when the gps signal get fixed. Typical experiment : click start, then click YES get the gps, then 3mn later it failed , click start again, click yes again and if you lucky the gps signal will be good enough for the ride to start. Same when you stop, you have to click many times, to confirm and save ... It may also have "broken" my orbea vibe, I got a an error 193 and Orbea had to update the bike firmware. It does not show the power delivered by the motor (the ebikemotion application did) . Often it won't connect or reconnect. I don't know if the "motor map"feature work, it may break again my bike so i won't use it. The application as an average of 1/5 in the google store, 1/5 is terribly low. The rest of the system is indeed good, ligh, fun but the application is just awful.
My wife now has three of these and has no issues with the MAHLE app, even using it to check the various conditions of a slightly used bike with X35 we bought for me. I'll probably just push the button and ride but she might talk me into setting the assist levels more like hers? She's been very happy with all 3 bikes though one required us to visit a dealer for a "software update" that took 10 minutes and cost next-to-nothing.
Hi, I have a question, I am a huge fan of Merida, I have a race 80 road, and a Big nine 40 MTB, and I want to say that I am very happy with this product because the road is light for me and it turns into corners nicely, and MTB when it comes to for riding on the roots or jumping, I am very happy, but now it's time for my question, could you please send me one item from your product, e.g. a cycling suit or a water bottle?, I would be very pleased, and I would already have a whole set of merida Greetings to the entire Merida company
Hi there! We're very pleased you're enjoying your MERIDA bikes - sadly we're not set up to be able to send products directly to consumers, but if you get it touch with your national distributor, they might be able to help with a deal or an offer 🤞 You can find all of their details here: www.merida-bikes.com/en/p/about-us/distributors-worldwide-139.html
So I threw my electronic tag away... I mean my iPhone. So I buy a bike and this will tag me too. Well well well, the WEF and Klaus analSchwab just have to get in on everything with their obsession of tracking us humans. We want a system without the electronic tagging.
Technical errors: the motor power is 250 watt (max), not 250 watt-hour. The battery capacity is measured in watt-hour. And for the narrative error, Mahle is an established engineering company, but their engineering didn’t go into this system; they purchased this system straight up from the original Spanish inventor/company.
We think you're mistaken - we reference the fact that this bike has a 250 Watt-hour battery at 2:48 - we don't say that the motor is 250 W at any point, just the torque output of 40 Nm. You are correct that the motor has a nominal maximum output of 250 W, so we assume this is where your confusion has arisen. On your second point, MAHLE has developed the X35 system since the acquisition of ebikemotion in 2017, resulting in the reengineered X35+ system we fit to our bikes. Changes include increased connectivity and a stronger hub casing that allows for greater spoke tensions and improved reliability. Hope that clears things up.
This is brilliant! Will definitely consider an eSpeeder this coming season as a commuter bike
Nice and clear, straight to the point. Thank you.
X20 system now available ! Looking forward to your opinion on it !
¡Grande, Manel!
Great clear well explained video Thankyou
I like the integration of the battery into the inner tube and the light weight of the system but I wonder if and how the battery can be exchanged. A lithium-ion ebike battery usually lasts 2 to 5 years. What happens after that period of time?
Hi there, it's possible to remove and repair or replace the battery with the MAHLE X35 system, though this is a procedure best carried out by a qualified mechanic. Hope that helps to answer your question.
Great video well done, can I please ask a question about the app…..
does it show the mileage that the ebike has been ridden….I mean if someone was buying a used ebike with this mahle system on it, could they link their phone app with the ebike and check the bike mileage, thank you
I know it's a little late but - the best way to check the mileage is to check how many volts fully charged battery has - for used one it's better to have more than 40V, 41V is brand new. And so on :)
@@Mavczers thanks for your helpful reply
I saw this motor mainly for road bike. What's the experience on MTB? My concern is there is no torque sensing. Does it feel like cadence sensing? i.e. the speed is set to preset speed based on PAS level. Or feel like more real bike experience like torque sensing? i.e. The power is proportional to the pedal efforts?
Great video though 🥳
How do you turn head/rear lights on or off. When I put power on, the lights come on and stay on all day if use the power. Obviously, this reduces my range and is just a waste when I do not need it. I have tried the iWoc and the app but no joy. Please, can you help me.
Big fan of Merida bikes, and great video! How long does it take to get a full charge for the bike and battery extender?
Thanks, we're pleased you enjoyed it! To fully charge the 208 Wh range extender will take around 3 hours and the main battery of the bike will be around 3.5 hours but these times are best used as a guide. MAHLE recommends that you do not leave the charger attached to the main battery for more 5 hours - you can find about the other ways to maximise your battery's lifespan here: www.ebikemotion.com/web/ebikemotion-battery-cares/
@@MERIDABIKES-INT Thank you for your response! Considering of getring this bike once stocks arrive in the Philippines.
Great video. I have struggled to find much information on this bike on the net. Will the performance related metrics of the software e.g. battery percentage, range etc integrate in with a wahoo elemnt bolt. I ride with the Wahoo on my bike as opposed to using my phone. Really keen to understand whether this is available
Hi there, we've reached out to MAHLE to see if this sort of integration is possible - we'll update you when we get an answer!
I have a espeeder. From what you said in the video that you tune the maps to suit the type of bike. I'd like to see an explanation of the differences.
Have you seen our video comparing the eSCULTURA and the eSILEX here? it covers the details between the tune used on those bikes:
ua-cam.com/video/ogLvZQQRRv0/v-deo.html
The eSPEEDER tune differs as it has a much higher assistance level at low speeds so you can get up to pace with urban traffic and for stop-start riding. Hope that helps!
@@MERIDABIKES-INT no I haven't but thank you for the link. Your explanation really helps as that urban tunes fits my use case perfectly
What is the W/H draw down per mile on the different assist levels for say, a 155 lb rider?
Hiya, while MAHLE might have that information on a test rig, in the real world, it would very much depend on the terrain and speed and also the map that has been used for the assistance levels so it's not possible to give that information out. All our MAHLE-equipped bikes use different assistance maps too - you can find a little bit more about that here: ua-cam.com/video/ogLvZQQRRv0/v-deo.html
Great video, very well explained, thank you. What happens to the assistance if the rider is putting out (through their legs) more than 250 watts, but travelling at under 25kph?
I have the e Scultura 400 and I am very happy with it. You have to pedal to get any assistance from the motor, and the level will depend on what setting you have selected (low/medium/high), but will cut out at 25kph. On the flat, if you set it on high, it wont need much effort on your part to get a decent speed but if you are peddling hard as well, then you will quickly get up to 25kph and it will then the motor wont help, but there isn't an abrupt cut off, more of a "fade". I tend to have it in "neutral" or low when I'm on the flat, but use medium or high for hills, depending on the severity. If you want the motor to do all the work, this isn't the bike for you. If you want help on hills or long rides, and a bike that still rides well without the motor, then this is a good choice
TL;DR answer: you will reach the top assisted speed really quickly.
I have this system in my gt and really like it. Range is decent (50km easy, 250wh) if you put in some effort and and the motor has enough juice to do most of the work if that's your cake. And there's a tuning dongle available to raise the speed limit
@@ChrisThomas-hq2il What if i will just start ghost pedaling, will i just get pushed to 25kph like in normal hub drive?, as i understand this system doesn't have a torque sensor in it.
Good question, wished they answered it@@chriscieslak4414
Hi - I have just taken my ebike back to the shop with an Error36 code whilst using it on a hilly two day ride. I've been told I should be riding with the power ON all the time and then choose the assistance as and when needed. Is this true, was never told this when purchased and w friends have ebikes and also only turn ON when they want assistance. Surely this will drain some power. Thoughts ?
Hi, we've not had any technical information from Mahle that the bike needs to be switched on while riding if assistance is not needed, but we have reached out to them to clarify. However, it may be more convenient to ride with the system switched on but the assistance switched off until needed - this will not consume any significant amount of battery and you will benefit from assistance starting immediately as and when you need it, rather than waiting for the system to power up.
Regards,
MERIDA
Hey Merida, are the Wheels for the e silex tubeless ready/compatible?
Hi Tyson, which model of eSILEX were you inquiring about? We'll check with our product team for you.
@@MERIDABIKES-INT e silex 400
Hi please can you tell me is the big.nine 700 available in Europe?
That will depend on your national distributor as they choose which models they stock. We'd suggest you contact them directly here:
www.merida-bikes.com/en/p/about-us/distributors-worldwide-139.html
Regards,
MERIDA
It would have been better to say the battery in amp/hour and the wattage of the hub motor that complies with UK law.
where can I find information on the autonomy of the battery assistance according to the type of electric assistance (low/mid/high) used ? I'am 74kg a road cyclist but I'm searching a sporty e-bike to ride 1h a day (almost 30km) everyday for a urban use mainly to bike to work. Could you help please ? Thanks ! ;-)
Hi there, it's very hard to give exact figures on the range in different settings with this system because it depends on rider input as well as rider weight and the terrain you'll be riding on. For the average user of your weight and on average terrain, 30 km would be no problem, even at the higher assistance settings. You may find this video useful:
ua-cam.com/video/wHffqSB6_yM/v-deo.html
Regards,
MERIDA
@@MERIDABIKES-INT Thanks for your answer Guys ! I'll think about that ! ... I'm on Merida since 2014 and ride Merida Scultura 10K & Reacto 8000 now ! 🙂 Cheers
I have been unable to discover the amount of power provided by the motor for each of the 3 assist levels? Does anyone know of the approximate wattage for each level?
According to Mahle support, unless you change the percentages in the phone app, Level 1 gives up to 100W (40% of max), Level 2 gives up to 175W (70% of max), and Level 3 gives up to 250W (100% of max)
how do you change the battery?
Hi there, the battery is not designed to be user removable. It can be removed by a qualified mechanic after the bottom bracket and drive unit has been removed. Hope that helps!
The ebikemotion phone application had been repalced by a new Mahle application that is mostly useless.
It does not remember your bike and so cannot even provide the total distance traveled. When i go to work it refuses to starts before it gets the GPS signal fixed, instead it should start when we ask for it and start recording gps points when the gps signal get fixed. Typical experiment : click start, then click YES get the gps, then 3mn later it failed , click start again, click yes again and if you lucky the gps signal will be good enough for the ride to start.
Same when you stop, you have to click many times, to confirm and save ...
It may also have "broken" my orbea vibe, I got a an error 193 and Orbea had to update the bike firmware.
It does not show the power delivered by the motor (the ebikemotion application did) .
Often it won't connect or reconnect.
I don't know if the "motor map"feature work, it may break again my bike so i won't use it.
The application as an average of 1/5 in the google store, 1/5 is terribly low.
The rest of the system is indeed good, ligh, fun but the application is just awful.
Interesting feedback, can't you keep on using the previous ebikemotion app ?
My wife now has three of these and has no issues with the MAHLE app, even using it to check the various conditions of a slightly used bike with X35 we bought for me. I'll probably just push the button and ride but she might talk me into setting the assist levels more like hers? She's been very happy with all 3 bikes though one required us to visit a dealer for a "software update" that took 10 minutes and cost next-to-nothing.
where i can buy wheel with motor?
HI, we only supply complete bikes, so we'd suggest getting in touch with your national MAHLE distributor. Hope that helps!
If I got a few Velcro ‘ coins’ I could stick phone on the bike cross bar!
Hi, I have a question, I am a huge fan of Merida, I have a race 80 road, and a Big nine 40 MTB, and I want to say that I am very happy with this product because the road is light for me and it turns into corners nicely, and MTB when it comes to for riding on the roots or jumping, I am very happy, but now it's time for my question, could you please send me one item from your product, e.g. a cycling suit or a water bottle?, I would be very pleased, and I would already have a whole set of merida
Greetings to the entire Merida company
Hi there! We're very pleased you're enjoying your MERIDA bikes - sadly we're not set up to be able to send products directly to consumers, but if you get it touch with your national distributor, they might be able to help with a deal or an offer 🤞
You can find all of their details here: www.merida-bikes.com/en/p/about-us/distributors-worldwide-139.html
If you don't ask, you don't get! 😜
So I threw my electronic tag away... I mean my iPhone. So I buy a bike and this will tag me too. Well well well, the WEF and Klaus analSchwab just have to get in on everything with their obsession of tracking us humans. We want a system without the electronic tagging.
Bruuuuuh
How on earth do I turn this ebike off?!?
Hi, press and hold the power button until the light goes out. Hope that helps!
Technical errors: the motor power is 250 watt (max), not 250 watt-hour. The battery capacity is measured in watt-hour.
And for the narrative error, Mahle is an established engineering company, but their engineering didn’t go into this system; they purchased this system straight up from the original Spanish inventor/company.
We think you're mistaken - we reference the fact that this bike has a 250 Watt-hour battery at 2:48 - we don't say that the motor is 250 W at any point, just the torque output of 40 Nm. You are correct that the motor has a nominal maximum output of 250 W, so we assume this is where your confusion has arisen.
On your second point, MAHLE has developed the X35 system since the acquisition of ebikemotion in 2017, resulting in the reengineered X35+ system we fit to our bikes. Changes include increased connectivity and a stronger hub casing that allows for greater spoke tensions and improved reliability. Hope that clears things up.
This man is a confirmed bald man
It's a bald skull cap 😵💫
Warning Mahle range extender batteries DIE if not charged every 2 weeks. They offer no support or help when it goes.
No they don't, you don't leave uncharged