@Click Bait Sure for unrestricted. Then for Bosch batteries in a normal restricted/legal state the max Eco range is ~140 km and max Turbo range is ~57 km. Even in Eco mode there will still be ~20 km of heavy biking to do.
If you slow down the video to frame by frame, you can just barely glimpse Si's TT bike hit 88 mph as the flux capacitor clicks on after he passes Hank.
1:08 When it comes the UK and the UE market, it's restricted to 25 km/h, in the US it's restricted to 20 mph. And then, if you come to Russia, it's restricted to 60 km/h in cities (as a vehicle) because we don't have any restrictions for cyclists.
Ехать быстрее 50 в городе, в наших городах, где ливневки по краям и спонтанные ямы и трещины? Это самоубийство! Реально 42-44 максимум чтоб не терять контроль.
@@benbraceletspurple9108 I'm not sure what u're saying but from experience i can telly you that braking from 40 km/h on a bike and in a car is uncomparable. And like literally boats have to be the slowest braking means of communication there is
"Derestricting an e-bike is hard, you shouldn't do it." That was clearly the BBC talking, it's not hard. manufacturers make it really easy and then just don't document it. This is because of draconian laws designed for mopeds, and to insulate motorists.
It's a meme law and TOTALLY UNENFORCEABLE. If I were ever stopped on my Fiido M1 PRO. For going faster than 15.5mph. In Croydon. I would say okay. Now go and stop every delivery rider using an ebike. They wont and they cant. I've talked to delivery riders. With souped up bikes using 1000w or more powerful motors. And 52v batteries. And flying around at 25mph PLUS. It's not worth the paper it's written on. It either stands for ALL or its doesnt stand for anyone
actually manufacturers hate you doing this bosch in particular decided to brown nose and hold a sumit between bike manufacturers urging them to make there stuff less able to be modified the issue is its not gonna work so give up bosch make electronics with motors in leaf blowers drills and other items they dont make software for a living and if sony ms nintendo apple and google cant even stop determined reverse engineers hacking there shit what hope does bosch have? people want this and honestly we should just let them have it its more dangerous!!! than what? oh dear someone might fall off and die ok but when did we ever care about that when we allowed motorcyclists to squat on 2400cc of engine and throw there asses down the road at over 100mph? what about pedestrians!!! what about them a ebike is the least of there worrys if there in the road there not taxed!!! grow up and stop being salty that your gas guzzling car has to pay tax for the tarmac you shred up each year alot of ecars are tax free too and ebikes do way less harm to the roads and enviroment than a ev does they dont have a license!!! most people ive spoken to would have no issue obtaining the cbt to ride theese they dont have insurance yeah but youd be upset when you found out how little that hurdle would cost us but kids.... yeah no theres already age restrictions on theese so stop pretending like kids will be ripping around causing havoc on theese cause its already illigal for them to use them meanwhile goverment wants us all to be greener get evs and shit well here we are with a solution many are ready to adopt unlie electric cars theese are accisible and workable for the parts of society that cant have EVS for example those who live in flats who cant charge there cars in the car parkk those who cant afford a brand new car and those who dont want a car there cheaper transport greener transport (despite power coming from coal just like EV's unlie evs there lighter and use less power to get the rider around than a EV which carrys you plus several tonnes of your car meanwhile my little motor just has to move me and my sub 15kg bike frame .... and maybe a pizza!
It's neither a motorbike or a moped, it's an E Bike. You have to put effort in, and the motor adds extra on top. Didn't you see how out of breath he was?
I do a 50km (round trip) commute in Cape Town (Somerset West to Stellenbosch and back). The hills are steep, and the wind can be quite strong. My Giant Quick E (45km/h or 28 MPH) makes the trip fun and easy, with as much or a workout as I want on the way home (I just turn down the pedal assist and enjoy the workout). But on the way to work it is smooth, fast, and easy.
It was very interesting to see how much faster an e-bike is compared to a regular bike. I'm totally for e-bikes. It expends the pool of people who can ride with me. I'm a strong cyclist and my wife, my kids and a lot of my friends can't keep up with me unless they use an e-bike. It's a win-win. I get to ride with my favorite people and can still get a decent workout. E-bikes are amazing. Thanks to GCN for including the e-bikes in your show.
But your wife and kids won't have the same abilities on a bike and by making them go as fast as you you will be making them vulnerable to a nasty injury.
@@amandajane8227 abilities and fitness are two very different things. Cars are more a risk for people's safety than an e-bikes are. Also, most hills around here will bring any bike at a much higher speed than any e-bike can. You, like many other people, say negative things about e-bikes and I really don't understand why. Can you tell me about how e-bikes make you feel so maybe I can understand where your comment is coming from?
@@EricLoic I ride with e-bike riders often. On one recent ride one of them took a corner too fast and come off breaking a rib. On another ride the Tail end charley was on an e-bike. He was happy to go slowly. But one of the other e-bikers came back to him for a chat. They got into a deep and meaningful chat and before they were aware were speeding off into the distance. I had to struggle to speed up and catch them and was breathless at 25kph.They were so deep in their conversation they were unaware of the cycling. Yesterday I came across a snake on the path when I was 2 meters from it. I could deviate around easily but if I was on an e-bike going faster the snake would have been in my spokes. I have nothing against e-bikes and expect to own one when I reach 60 but I do think people get them and don't understand they are a completely different beast to a non motorised bike.
I'm curious how this match would play out over 50 or 100 km. When would the ebike run out of juice and then become a huge liability that nobody can overcome?
@@marty197666 yes, and the reviews were unbiased, no product pushing,...if it was shit, they said so. Like top gear. Nowdays it’s just another platform for the brands to push their product...GCN sold out to the market. And all the fun-quality and tech-knowledge went away with Matt, the “Brick”, Emma, Cunnings, and now the Powers too. Seems like they don’t like the model GCN is taking?
They do have a motor available for some velomobiles. My Rotovello doesn't have a motor because I am in desperate need to burn calories every minute I can.
I have a motor on the back of my ‘bent - raising the minimum speed makes a huge difference on a commute. Used to average easily more than the 15mph “maximum”...
I thought this was a fantastic demonstration Hank and Conor. It's getting more and more like Top Gear for cyclists. Chapeau to GCN and your creativity.
@@somedude2492 Most e-bikes have a battery management system. Emptying it won't kill it, because the BMS will cut off before it gets dangerous. What is important is to recharge within let's say a week after that - batteries discharge without being used too.
Yeah, they should do a 100km and 200km test next..but the sponsors (canyon) wouldn’t be happy with the bike they’re pushing loosing the race, or calling it no-good...that’s called biased review.
Bro it's not even going to be close, not only are e-bikes much faster but people can go a lot further before getting tired. Hank could literally lap him and finish the full race twice before he does. Also a fact most wouldn't know w/o having one the battery dying hardly matters. The e-bikes are still high-end bikes with good gearing and would still be much faster than the average bike on no battery. So worst case Hank's battery dies and it's slightly worse than Mark's bike but while he has the batteries it's like 3x better.
This is a good demonstration that unrestricted (or at least higher speeds) than some places allow, could create a much more compelling argument for car replacement. It starts to get more dangerous, requires a lot more attention, braking, and experience to do safely, but since we must replace cars because of Climate Crisis, I think it should be a serious consideration.
Climate crisis? Perhaps. Dirty air? Definitely. Probably better to focus on the latter, especially because it's less controversial (and solving for it would also solve the former).
For anyone who wants to derestrict their bike, the easiest way is to move the wheel sensor so that it is close to the pedals, and put a magnet on the pedals. If they are closely enough aligned, the magnet will trigger the speed sensor, and it will be effectly unlimited. This works on my Bosch based Cannondale neo 2020.
Here in Australia you can purchase ebikes not only on the net but also from reputable shops that'll do up to 65 kph no problem as long as they state only to be used on private property. Motors up around 1500watts. I have one myself.
I once had access to some unrestricted E-Bikes, so I tested up a climb (2.7 km, 251 m with peaks of 17%). I did the climb in 4 min 53 s, averaging 33 kmh for a VAM of over 3000 m/h. It was just insane. No match for human legs.
Thanks for great content. In South Africa we allowed 45km/h "speed pedelec" as per Canadian regulations I'm told. My brother and I have such ebikes and your results ringed true 🤩
Where I live on the Canadian east coast there are 500W and 32 kph restrictions😞 . I'd very much love to go faster at times but I'm also grateful that we're not limited to 25 kph, which is simple cruelty! Those affected have my sympathies!
It depends. Uphill, definitly the steeper the easyer for the e-bike but downhill, maybe. Because, downhill it depends on the rider and not the bike as speeds are way faster. On the flats, it depends on the limit of the e bike because after the limit it can become hard against the normal road bike as the weight and chunkyness holds the e-bike back. So there you have it. Oh and when cyclocrossing definitly the non e-bike. I don't want to carry my ebike🙈
I like what Hank brings to the table. He's funny without really trying. Everyone seems to have carved a nice niche there. I just got my racepass up and running on chromecast in the U.S. Ive been a cyclist for a long time and I can finally watch Live European races in their entirety. I always hoped for a full fledged cycling channel and it's finally here. Great stuff.
Love it! You gotta do a super long range test that’s far longer than the eBike’s battery can last. Then maybe the regular bike could catch up to the heavier eBike after it runs out of power.
To be fair once an E-bike is out of power (especially in a low power pedal assist mode) the other riders might be pretty marginal on power too. But yeah, as an E-Bike rider it's amazing how "heavy" they get when that battery finally conks out, I've done a couple rides where I deplete the battery and still had a kilometer or 2 of modestly steep mountain cutoff to climb to get back home, no regrets though, it was a fun ride and good exercise
@@goku445 in the case of my own bike, yes, when the motor is off or runs out of power it becomes noticeable more difficult to pedal than a normal bike, something I've had to deal with a few times when I took too-long of a bikeride and ran the battery down before getting home. It's still possible to pedal obviously but it's like you constantly fighting to go up hill, in addition to whatever terrain your biking threw... which can be grueling on a multi-kilometer accent up a mountain cutoff, I've certainly wished I had a backup battery in those cases
Now way in winning it with that dumb restriction. As soon as I invest in an emtb the first thing that I do as soon as the warranty is over is getting rid of that dumb restriction to snail speed.
Pointless comparison. I own a Canyon Grail:On and turbo mode is so powerful it’s barely usable,when the engine cuts off you basically fly over bars. The bike has 85nm of output,by comparison a Fiat Panda has 110nm..
You need to bring the Grail:On off roads, that’s really fun. I own an Canyon Inflite and the Grail:On, it’s different but I love it in both ways on the bikes.
I have a canyon endurance On ,the limitation on 25km/h is frustrating. After 25 km/h you are pushing 16kg+ yourself+ other bits. Is good for training( if you are doing interval trainings) but is very useless for other things. If you are not limited by other factors( injuries and so on), just buy a good road bike, is more fun, dont waste your money on ebike.
@@kevinshort3943 yes they are, but over 25 km/h you must move more weight than a normal bike. So greater the mass greater the power needed to move the object.
A few weeks ago, I cycled from Cape Town to Hout Bay. I am a pretty good climber and had a good time until I was overtaken by a beautiful blonde girl. She kept cycling next to me for a moment and said, "Hi", after which she took off like a rocket, up mountain, mind you. As if I were standing still, my manhood shrank to the size of a pea. At the top she was waiting for me to arrive. When I asked her if she drank kerosene at breakfast, she said with a laugh: "No dude ......., I have an electric racing bike.". I could hug her. Satisfied and confident, I descended.
The modern electric bikes are great. I am 71, and have some health issues, but my ebike permits me tp go on my old favorite rides. Us old guys still want to ride, and there is a big market for these bikes, so they will continue to improve.
I have been waiting for this video since Si did the "Are E-Bikes Fun?" video. I have a speed pedalec and they are quite fun to zip around. Look how amped up Hank is! I've done all the things e-bikes were meant for. Riding hills, carrying kids, hauling groceries. GCN should do a downhill E-bike race... heavy E-Bike vs Aero road :)
you guys are the only guys on the internet that are qualified to know bikes. these dudes know what a bike is and how a bike works, my son is a bike lover! he loves your shows and I force him to watch your beutiful faces.,
@@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Yes. And if Si loses to the e-bike, then put him in the Milan against the e-bike. Or just add laps until the battery dies :-D
@@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Si beat Manon in the recumbent. Different story ;-) Although it is funny. I really have the impression that since those GCN episodes came out, I see more road and TT bike riders trying to chase me in the Milan :-) If any of you are reading this: Thanks for the fun! ;-)
this test is only viable on shorter distances. the ebikes range isnt that long. its like 40km or so last i checked. so a roadie would leave it for dead on those longer trips
my bike ia a S-Works 2024 Creo 2. 28 lbs: The bike is efficient enough to be ridden in analog mode: and the power modes can assist with climbs and rest periods. For instance the other day I started a Road ride with 144% and ended with 122% on a 27 miles ride. Yesterday I did a short 18 mile Gravel ride in 29 degree Werther started with 119% ended with 113%. This bike could easily be used for 100mile plus rides without battery depletion. its a complete joy to ride. besides my Trek Rail 9.7 eMTB the Creo is the best purchase I have ever made and has produced the most joy. A great way to stay fit while producing the maximum joy.
I used to believe that e bikes dont make sense thinking that if you have a motor why do you need pedals, but now I found that motors don't replace you legs, they just augment them. like all the tools that we use every day, think of it as a down hill, you go fast by the gravity alone then when you pedal, you just fly.
Why didn't you guys use a 25kph e-bike instead of an unrestricted one? Does a 25kph e-bike only go up to 25kph even when naturally pedaling? Or does it assist you until you get to 25kph and then your natural pedaling can make you go faster than 25kph? If that's the case Hank would've maybe won the 50 meter sprint but lost the other 2 races. I mean come on GCN - at least make it interesting. In this video Hank basically had a motorcycle, he was always going to win.
They used Unrestricted E-bikes for the Solar Impulse plane to start. Two Bikes were used to hold the Wing ends in the air, i think they got up to 110km/h... which is insane!!!
it's worth noting that changing the limiter on a bosch bike (Like the one in the video) isn't necessarily *Illegal* in the states, it can and will void your warranty and since the software you need to do it is directly connected to bosch's servers they can Actually brick the bike remotely so you'll have a $3000< paperweight
It was tongue-in-cheek satire. He "proved" that on gravel tires and not having experience on the bike, he could still pedal hard and win against a properly equipped rider by a wide margin. People are learning that you can still get a ton of exercise and the motor just takes you there faster. I ride/e-motor to and from trailheads instead of having to clog up roads by driving. Easy to trailer small kids and they love it vs a car.
The implications of unleashing the potential of what ebikes can contribute to society is incredible. Fit bloke on an ebike against fit bloke on a pedal bike was never going to be fair. I don’t think that was the point. Cracking! Thank you.
I'd be interested to see this over the 4v1 TT course as well, because you can't just tank along at 55-60kph over bad surfaces and round tight corners. Some circumspection would have to come into play or he'd end up in the hedge! Of course, it's not road legal so it'll never happen...
It always amazes me when I look at my small e-bike li-ion battery and realize it stores almost 1 kilowatt hour of energy and costs less than one dollar to charge after riding 20 mph for 25 miles.
At this time in 2021. It is not true that all these systems for Bosch remove restrictions totally, they only increase the limit. So be careful what you buy and check the new speed limit they may impose. Speed box 3 finally does up to I think about 55mph as well as the great Volspeed up to around 60. Badass, Eplus and many of the others only increase it to in the 20's mph. Now, on our pack road rides we sometimes jump to up to 40 mph on the flats for short distances. An ebike speed restricted in the middle of that pack and not dead last is like someone tapping their brakes with everyone else accelerating. What could go wrong ? Ebike builders are making bikes very dangerous with their speed restrictions. Especially Bosch, they are the worst ones. You don't buy a Bosch ebike you only rent it. They still control everything you do. They don't even allow you user configurable assist levels you have eco/tour/sport/turbo. But bosch decides what those are. No low/med/high or 0-100% user settings. They used to have a totally user configurable interface with their original motors but they learned their lesson. They don't really want you to become stronger on the ebike, they want you to be completely dependent on it. They also sell opioids. ;)
For S Pedelecs which effectively are a derestricted EPAC, in UK we have to register them as a moped with number plate, insurance, MOT after 3 years, plus wear a proper motorcycle safety helmet. Makes me wonder why for even normal bicycles we don’t have better bicycle helmets with speeds of say up to 50 mph possible or more downhill.
You need a license here in the UK aswell lads. Ebikes are restricted here to 15.5mph. There are calls for it to be 20mph so an ebike can keep up with the flow of traffic in residential areas as this is the speed limit in these areas. But as soon as your ebike can reach 28mph you have to register the bike as a moped. Very long winded process. Im looking into building extended range ebike mopeds. Getting them registered for sale.
the problem is why do you ride ? for the speed? for the workout? as a cheap transportation? quick transportation in the city? to enjoy time with friends? for touring? it all depends on your answers whether an ebike is better or worse for you. I'm mostly doing mtb currently , usually with friends, I would probably get an ebike if -I lived in mountains, to do enduro/DH without the chairlift and ride longer distances and be able to practice my DH skills -my riding buddies had eMTBs too -eMTB were comparable to regular bikes in price for the same level of performance (not talking about straight line speed on a flat, smooth road) -ebikes were not making progress so quickly and become obsolete after a few years, and if batteries could do a thousand cycles without losing too much range -if I could commute safely with my bike. not the case because of 1/ driving my daughter to school 2/ not having bike path to do most of the commute safely 3/ working from home probably a single one of those reasons could convince me to get one, maybe also if the ebike act passes
Thanks Jeff. I am actually looking for an ebike that can go further. My Carerrra ebike now struggles to do 30 miles on eco and I need one that can guarantee 100 miles minimum. Ebike riding does not make anyone lazy, it just gives you great flexibility. You exercise when you are feeling strong and you cruise around when you are not that strong but need to keep the heart pumping. Even while on eco, you are moving your legs and hence still exercising. Ebike all the way ! 💪
@Treez 93 agreed. 128 miles bike ride today in under 10 hours (inc stops for food) on my traditional bike on 65 year old legs. Unless you are infirm or have a disability, there is no excuse for not putting in some effort and getting yourself fitter to ride and an ordinary bike.
@@justbreakingballs Sorry, my comment was very badly written. "Salty" means reacting angrily and resentfully, especially in response to defeat or disappointment. The comments aren't salty: people aren't angry or resentful at being beaten by a motorized bike. They're just saying "Well, duh, of course the e-bike wins." It's GCN who are pointing out the obvious, not the commenters.
It’s not stating the obvious, because it’s not obvious exactly what an un restricted E-bike is capable of, which is the purpose of the video. They’re not doing this to see who wins for Christ’s sake. You guys must be a bundle of laughs down the pub.
If your thinking abt getting a SpeedBox get one! I got one for my trek rail e and I can do 45 mph cruising. It’s so much fun and the laughs when I over take people in cars is amazing!
Worth noting that in the US states that recognize Class 3, no license is required here, it's just that they usually can't use bicycle infrastructure except for painted-on bicycle lanes, unless specifically allowed with signage at the infrastructure. (In Europe and countries following European regulatory structures, they're legally a subclass of mopeds, hence the license and registration requirements.)
Thanks for this video lads! I have been wondering what the upper limits might be. I am currently riding a Specialized Creo Turbo SL Expert EVO and it is speed limited to 28mph here in the US but I'm seeing average speeds on Strava segments up around 25mph over 5 minute segments which puts me at or near the top of many segments for my local rides. Of course I never let those records stand but it's nice to see what's possible!
How fast do you think we can get the de-restricted motor to go?
Wait... you already did this with derestricted emtb and chris oppie. You ran out of ideas?
I watched already so I won't cheat the question. 😅
No range anxiety over 2.9 km but what about a over a Century? 😉
@Click Bait Sure for unrestricted. Then for Bosch batteries in a normal restricted/legal state the max Eco range is ~140 km and max Turbo range is ~57 km. Even in Eco mode there will still be ~20 km of heavy biking to do.
Conor, just be thankful you weren't racing Ollie on an unrestricted E-bike.
I'm thinking somewhere around 60 kph.
Yes, but we really need is is an E bike faster than Si on a TT bike
Yes
Finally a bike Ollie can use to keep up.
Absolutely!
If you slow down the video to frame by frame, you can just barely glimpse Si's TT bike hit 88 mph as the flux capacitor clicks on after he passes Hank.
Yess.. ebike vs the tt bike
1:08 When it comes the UK and the UE market, it's restricted to 25 km/h, in the US it's restricted to 20 mph.
And then, if you come to Russia, it's restricted to 60 km/h in cities (as a vehicle) because we don't have any restrictions for cyclists.
Ехать быстрее 50 в городе, в наших городах, где ливневки по краям и спонтанные ямы и трещины? Это самоубийство! Реально 42-44 максимум чтоб не терять контроль.
@@Hyleys Vodka Putin
Russian logic:
no rules = no fines
I never had many doubts about the elementary stupidity of Russian logic.
In India no restrictions you can go at any speed
@@lichtloper you just HAD TO say something shitty the moment you saw the word "Russia", are you?
Cars? Built to go faster than you're allowed to go even on the highway. Bikes? Restricted to the lowest speed limit you'll ever find.
This irony and yet I get to work 5.5 miles away every day at about the same time, just 1 or 2 minutes slower than in a car.
Well, u can turn sharper and brake faster in a car
@@wylfo nope. Bicycles max at over 1g turning and 1.4g breaking power, no mode of transportation is better accepting boats and submarines.
@@benbraceletspurple9108 I'm not sure what u're saying but from experience i can telly you that braking from 40 km/h on a bike and in a car is uncomparable.
And like literally boats have to be the slowest braking means of communication there is
@@wylfo boats record is close to airplanes, nearly 5 Gs from 40mph/43 knots they come down to 10 knots in 1/4 second.
GCN: Hank seems to crash a lot.
Also GCN: Lets make him go faster
So, he's the Richard Hammond of Cycling?
@@stat1cghost you saying he's gonna grow shorter?
Next Episode: Ollie gets dropped riding an unrestricted ebike.
By Mamon on a unicycle with a flat.
Lol
By Herbert the pervert on methamphetamine
Cruel but true 🤣
"Derestricting an e-bike is hard, you shouldn't do it." That was clearly the BBC talking, it's not hard. manufacturers make it really easy and then just don't document it. This is because of draconian laws designed for mopeds, and to insulate motorists.
It's a meme law and TOTALLY UNENFORCEABLE. If I were ever stopped on my Fiido M1 PRO. For going faster than 15.5mph. In Croydon. I would say okay. Now go and stop every delivery rider using an ebike. They wont and they cant.
I've talked to delivery riders. With souped up bikes using 1000w or more powerful motors. And 52v batteries. And flying around at 25mph PLUS.
It's not worth the paper it's written on. It either stands for ALL or its doesnt stand for anyone
Its harder to softboil an egg than removing the restrictions on an e-bike
actually manufacturers hate you doing this bosch in particular decided to brown nose and hold a sumit between bike manufacturers urging them to make there stuff less able to be modified the issue is its not gonna work so give up
bosch make electronics with motors in leaf blowers drills and other items they dont make software for a living
and if sony ms nintendo apple and google cant even stop determined reverse engineers hacking there shit what hope does bosch have?
people want this and honestly we should just let them have it
its more dangerous!!!
than what? oh dear someone might fall off and die ok but when did we ever care about that when we allowed motorcyclists to squat on 2400cc of engine and throw there asses down the road at over 100mph?
what about pedestrians!!!
what about them a ebike is the least of there worrys if there in the road
there not taxed!!!
grow up and stop being salty that your gas guzzling car has to pay tax for the tarmac you shred up each year alot of ecars are tax free too and ebikes do way less harm to the roads and enviroment than a ev does
they dont have a license!!!
most people ive spoken to would have no issue obtaining the cbt to ride theese
they dont have insurance
yeah but youd be upset when you found out how little that hurdle would cost us
but kids....
yeah no theres already age restrictions on theese so stop pretending like kids will be ripping around causing havoc on theese cause its already illigal for them to use them
meanwhile goverment wants us all to be greener get evs and shit well here we are with a solution many are ready to adopt
unlie electric cars theese are accisible and workable for the parts of society that cant have EVS for example those who live in flats who cant charge there cars in the car parkk those who cant afford a brand new car and those who dont want a car
there cheaper transport
greener transport (despite power coming from coal just like EV's unlie evs there lighter and use less power to get the rider around than a EV which carrys you plus several tonnes of your car meanwhile my little motor just has to move me and my sub 15kg bike frame .... and maybe a pizza!
@@darkoquist8448 like how because softboiling an egg is easy af egg+water+6min boil=soft boiled egg
@@irishsamurai9008 that was the point, de restricting an E-bike can be trivially easy.
Think we’ve found our match for Si on the Orbea Ordu TT bike
Did you know that "Ordu" means "Hour" in basque language?
Today on GCN: are motorcycles faster than bicycles?
Well, you still have to pedal, as it is more of a moped than motorcycle, namely pedelec.
It's neither a motorbike or a moped, it's an E Bike.
You have to put effort in, and the motor adds extra on top. Didn't you see how out of breath he was?
@Treez 93
I see people on normal bikes not peddling all the time, so?
@Treez 93 stop thinking like Aristotle and accept Galileo's laws of inertia already
@Treez 93
They weren't on E bikes then, and I completely agree with you.
If you stop peddling on a E bike, the bike stops.
I do a 50km (round trip) commute in Cape Town (Somerset West to Stellenbosch and back). The hills are steep, and the wind can be quite strong. My Giant Quick E (45km/h or 28 MPH) makes the trip fun and easy, with as much or a workout as I want on the way home (I just turn down the pedal assist and enjoy the workout). But on the way to work it is smooth, fast, and easy.
is it unrestricted?
@@1997giannis in South Africa electric bicycles can go up to 45km/h (or 28 mph).
how much different is the additional weight of battery?
Same bike in NC mountains, love it, go anywhere, climb anything fast. Best part, I’m a stronger rider on my regular road bike.
Thats crazy, Im also from cape town and went from cape town to stellenbosch and back just today.
It was very interesting to see how much faster an e-bike is compared to a regular bike. I'm totally for e-bikes. It expends the pool of people who can ride with me. I'm a strong cyclist and my wife, my kids and a lot of my friends can't keep up with me unless they use an e-bike. It's a win-win. I get to ride with my favorite people and can still get a decent workout. E-bikes are amazing. Thanks to GCN for including the e-bikes in your show.
But your wife and kids won't have the same abilities on a bike and by making them go as fast as you you will be making them vulnerable to a nasty injury.
@@amandajane8227 abilities and fitness are two very different things. Cars are more a risk for people's safety than an e-bikes are. Also, most hills around here will bring any bike at a much higher speed than any e-bike can. You, like many other people, say negative things about e-bikes and I really don't understand why. Can you tell me about how e-bikes make you feel so maybe I can understand where your comment is coming from?
@@EricLoic I ride with e-bike riders often. On one recent ride one of them took a corner too fast and come off breaking a rib. On another ride the Tail end charley was on an e-bike. He was happy to go slowly. But one of the other e-bikers came back to him for a chat. They got into a deep and meaningful chat and before they were aware were speeding off into the distance. I had to struggle to speed up and catch them and was breathless at 25kph.They were so deep in their conversation they were unaware of the cycling. Yesterday I came across a snake on the path when I was 2 meters from it. I could deviate around easily but if I was on an e-bike going faster the snake would have been in my spokes. I have nothing against e-bikes and expect to own one when I reach 60 but I do think people get them and don't understand they are a completely different beast to a non motorised bike.
@@amandajane8227 you were describing regular biking issues and behaviour. Nothing specific to e-bikes. Cheers.
I'm curious how this match would play out over 50 or 100 km.
When would the ebike run out of juice and then become a huge liability that nobody can overcome?
That was unfair. You clearly de-restricted Hank as well!
Peace,steal want a trek or cervelo to see what a racing bike is like ,no e peace.
This Channel Is becoming the top Gear of cycling
It was more so in the days when it was just Matt, Si and Dan. Really had a best mates doing what they love vibe
coming up: our guest doing a lap on a reasonably priced bike!
Tonight on GCN: Hank announces the aftermath of his curry, Conor wears some sunglasses, and Manon shouts at two men
@@marty197666 yes, and the reviews were unbiased, no product pushing,...if it was shit, they said so. Like top gear. Nowdays it’s just another platform for the brands to push their product...GCN sold out to the market. And all the fun-quality and tech-knowledge went away with Matt, the “Brick”, Emma, Cunnings, and now the Powers too. Seems like they don’t like the model GCN is taking?
@@izi941 I think Matt leaving was just natural progression, considering he works for Eurosport who are owned by the same company that owns GCN I think
Imagine an e-recumbent. The kind of engine and batteries that could fit... Wait I am reinventing the car ;(
yes
They do have a motor available for some velomobiles. My Rotovello doesn't have a motor because I am in desperate need to burn calories every minute I can.
Not sure about the car but it sounds a lot like the Sinclair C5.
Podbike
I have a motor on the back of my ‘bent - raising the minimum speed makes a huge difference on a commute. Used to average easily more than the 15mph “maximum”...
I thought this was a fantastic demonstration Hank and Conor. It's getting more and more like Top Gear for cyclists. Chapeau to GCN and your creativity.
Amature E-Bike vs Hank Road Bike, is what we actually want
About time to reintroduce Hank's dad!
@@panzerveps it'll become hank dad BMW R1200GS vs hank with e bike in no time 😂😂😂
Is it a-mature, or amateur??? :D
@@unairamos74 Hank's dad is a mature amateur.
Yes!
Now, the flip-side of the e-bike coin: how much SLOWER is an e-bike with the battery depleted? Extra weight and potential motor drag....
Tour De France without any recharging allowed. 😁
haha greabo
You should take care not to empty the battery though
@@somedude2492 Most e-bikes have a battery management system. Emptying it won't kill it, because the BMS will cut off before it gets dangerous. What is important is to recharge within let's say a week after that - batteries discharge without being used too.
Yeah, they should do a 100km and 200km test next..but the sponsors (canyon) wouldn’t be happy with the bike they’re pushing loosing the race, or calling it no-good...that’s called biased review.
Let's be honest, we all want to know what happened in the car park
Next challenge: Hank’s dad on illegal ebike vs Si on TT bike.
Yes!!!
Ollie on an ebike vs Si on a TT bike pleaseeee
What’s a TT bike?
@@rolux4853 Time trial
in Switzerland it's allowed to have a 45km/h s-pedelec, I personally own one called Stromer ST3 and it's very good to commute more than 20kms.
That explains why I got smoked by commuters wearing suits when I was there last...
Should I buy a Stromer instead of QWIC?
Actually those are EU regulations. You should be able to ride it all over the EU.
Next race: 24 hours - Hank on an ebike with 2 batteries and a fast charger vs Mark Beaumont on a normal road bike...
Good one, I like it!
Yes 😅
But will probably only be available on GCN ultimate-premium-limited-plus-season pack-DLC
Bro it's not even going to be close, not only are e-bikes much faster but people can go a lot further before getting tired. Hank could literally lap him and finish the full race twice before he does. Also a fact most wouldn't know w/o having one the battery dying hardly matters. The e-bikes are still high-end bikes with good gearing and would still be much faster than the average bike on no battery. So worst case Hank's battery dies and it's slightly worse than Mark's bike but while he has the batteries it's like 3x better.
Last time I was this early, Ollie hadn't been dropped from the pack
oof
wtf🤣🤣
This is a good demonstration that unrestricted (or at least higher speeds) than some places allow, could create a much more compelling argument for car replacement. It starts to get more dangerous, requires a lot more attention, braking, and experience to do safely, but since we must replace cars because of Climate Crisis, I think it should be a serious consideration.
Climate Crisis, really. Sounds like somebody’s been drinking the Kool-Aid
@@petermcbilt594 with a firehose
The restrictions are about insurance, vehicle licencing and taxes. The question is when is it a moped and when is it a bike. I'm happy as it is.
Andy Kirby actually MSVA'd one of his creations and got it plated (of course there's no tax as it's electric and a small insurance fee)
Climate crisis? Perhaps. Dirty air? Definitely.
Probably better to focus on the latter, especially because it's less controversial (and solving for it would also solve the former).
For anyone who wants to derestrict their bike, the easiest way is to move the wheel sensor so that it is close to the pedals, and put a magnet on the pedals. If they are closely enough aligned, the magnet will trigger the speed sensor, and it will be effectly unlimited. This works on my Bosch based Cannondale neo 2020.
Here in Australia you can purchase ebikes not only on the net but also from reputable shops that'll do up to 65 kph no problem as long as they state only to be used on private property. Motors up around 1500watts. I have one myself.
Hank with the dramatics 👏👏 we need to see what happened at the carpark
I once had access to some unrestricted E-Bikes, so I tested up a climb (2.7 km, 251 m with peaks of 17%). I did the climb in 4 min 53 s, averaging 33 kmh for a VAM of over 3000 m/h. It was just insane. No match for human legs.
Seems like it was more than a match for human legs.
Or maybe you don’t have much Watts in your legs it’s doable
@troy phillips Right they do it all the time infact they do it with a much lesser time..just imagine what they would do with an ebike
I am SO glad somebody did this test. Well done GCN.
Unrestricted is the way to go, thanks guys for showing us the true potential !
Thanks for great content. In South Africa we allowed 45km/h "speed pedelec" as per Canadian regulations I'm told. My brother and I have such ebikes and your results ringed true 🤩
Where I live on the Canadian east coast there are 500W and 32 kph restrictions😞 . I'd very much love to go faster at times but I'm also grateful that we're not limited to 25 kph, which is simple cruelty! Those affected have my sympathies!
@@DMCLN OK 32 is not that bad. I think most people are complaining about the 25kph
@@DMCLNme In Canada where I live we can go 50-60 as long as we’re driving safely
Can we get a best of Hank's crashes compilation with slow motion and reverse edits? It would be cracking!
Would have been good to see the effort needed to ride alongside Connor while he's flat out.
It depends. Uphill, definitly the steeper the easyer for the e-bike but downhill, maybe. Because, downhill it depends on the rider and not the bike as speeds are way faster. On the flats, it depends on the limit of the e bike because after the limit it can become hard against the normal road bike as the weight and chunkyness holds the e-bike back. So there you have it. Oh and when cyclocrossing definitly the non e-bike. I don't want to carry my ebike🙈
I like what Hank brings to the table. He's funny without really trying. Everyone seems to have carved a nice niche there. I just got my racepass up and running on chromecast in the U.S. Ive been a cyclist for a long time and I can finally watch Live European races in their entirety. I always hoped for a full fledged cycling channel and it's finally here. Great stuff.
Love it! You gotta do a super long range test that’s far longer than the eBike’s battery can last. Then maybe the regular bike could catch up to the heavier eBike after it runs out of power.
Plot Twist : if you're doing super-distances do what MTB long-day pros do and carry a spare battery.
To be fair once an E-bike is out of power (especially in a low power pedal assist mode) the other riders might be pretty marginal on power too.
But yeah, as an E-Bike rider it's amazing how "heavy" they get when that battery finally conks out, I've done a couple rides where I deplete the battery and still had a kilometer or 2 of modestly steep mountain cutoff to climb to get back home, no regrets though, it was a fun ride and good exercise
@@UNSCPILOT Interesting. Do you think the motor resists to your effort if it's not used?
@@goku445 in the case of my own bike, yes, when the motor is off or runs out of power it becomes noticeable more difficult to pedal than a normal bike, something I've had to deal with a few times when I took too-long of a bikeride and ran the battery down before getting home.
It's still possible to pedal obviously but it's like you constantly fighting to go up hill, in addition to whatever terrain your biking threw... which can be grueling on a multi-kilometer accent up a mountain cutoff, I've certainly wished I had a backup battery in those cases
Well I guess you could say that bike is quite the.... torque of the town.
sounds like a challenge for Si, and the TT bike ;)
Ollie on E-Bike vs any of you ex-pro’s would be a great watch. Imagine how pleased he’d be to be the one dropping you guys!!
Your videos guys are the best I love the various comparisons u guys made
I would like to see you do the same ones again, but with the restriction at 25 km.
Now way in winning it with that dumb restriction.
As soon as I invest in an emtb the first thing that I do as soon as the warranty is over is getting rid of that dumb restriction to snail speed.
Pointless comparison. I own a Canyon Grail:On and turbo mode is so powerful it’s barely usable,when the engine cuts off you basically fly over bars. The bike has 85nm of output,by comparison a Fiat Panda has 110nm..
You need to bring the Grail:On off roads, that’s really fun. I own an Canyon Inflite and the Grail:On, it’s different but I love it in both ways on the bikes.
I have a canyon endurance On ,the limitation on 25km/h is frustrating. After 25 km/h you are pushing 16kg+ yourself+ other bits. Is good for training( if you are doing interval trainings) but is very useless for other things. If you are not limited by other factors( injuries and so on), just buy a good road bike, is more fun, dont waste your money on ebike.
Lapierre E bikes are supposed to be the same as a normal bike to peddle without the motor/over the speed limit.
@@kevinshort3943 yes they are, but over 25 km/h you must move more weight than a normal bike. So greater the mass greater the power needed to move the object.
Super impressed with the 48km/h on the road bike without a downslope or tailwind from a vehicle
We agree! Connor has still got it!
"I Have to say, I really enjoyed making this film, and I hope you guys have too." - Hank 2021.
A few weeks ago, I cycled from Cape Town to Hout Bay. I am a pretty good climber and had a good time until I was overtaken by a beautiful blonde girl. She kept cycling next to me for a moment and said, "Hi", after which she took off like a rocket, up mountain, mind you. As if I were standing still, my manhood shrank to the size of a pea. At the top she was waiting for me to arrive. When I asked her if she drank kerosene at breakfast, she said with a laugh: "No dude ......., I have an electric racing bike.". I could hug her. Satisfied and confident, I descended.
The modern electric bikes are great. I am 71, and have some health issues, but my ebike permits me tp go on my old favorite rides.
Us old guys still want to ride, and there is a big market for these bikes, so they will continue to improve.
Hilarious! And such enthusiasm from the power assisted winner...
I have been waiting for this video since Si did the "Are E-Bikes Fun?" video. I have a speed pedalec and they are quite fun to zip around. Look how amped up Hank is! I've done all the things e-bikes were meant for. Riding hills, carrying kids, hauling groceries. GCN should do a downhill E-bike race... heavy E-Bike vs Aero road :)
That bike looks massive for Hank!
Would be nice to see the comparison between the restricted and the derestriced ebike
What about an endurance race? Would a battery outlast a human?
Not a chance. Depends on the human of course!
@@dangerfulmind if you had it giving say 50-70 watts I think it'd do pretty well. Plus if there was a stop where you could pop in a fresh battery
This one would be interesting! Do an endurance race 200km with both bikes.
@@supernoodles908 I think that if more than one battery would be allowed, the rider has to carry the spare battery.
@@supernoodles908 Great idea. Maybe while we're at it, restrict the amount of food the normal bike rider could eat, to increase the handicap.
4:30 ‘The horses are in the stable’…….
Sounds like something Murray Walker would’ve come out with.
You’ve got to love Hanks enthusiasm.
Er. Fun. That's I guess it. Nothing learnt, no surprise but entertaining watching Hank get the easy job for a change.
you guys are the only guys on the internet that are qualified to know bikes. these dudes know what a bike is and how a bike works, my son is a bike lover! he loves your shows and I force him to watch your beutiful faces.,
So now race the E-bike vs. Recumbent
But Si already beat the recumbent. Hahaha. I think Si should go against the un-restricted e-bike.
@@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Yes. And if Si loses to the e-bike, then put him in the Milan against the e-bike. Or just add laps until the battery dies :-D
@@vonwycliffezebadiahleones2535 Si beat Manon in the recumbent. Different story ;-) Although it is funny. I really have the impression that since those GCN episodes came out, I see more road and TT bike riders trying to chase me in the Milan :-) If any of you are reading this: Thanks for the fun! ;-)
Ive been stopped on my fat e bike 1200w motor around 50mph and the police didnt care as long as i have pedals they were happy
Whenever they say "Biggie Smalls" on the GCN show I can't help but think of Connor and Hank standing next to each other.
this test is only viable on shorter distances. the ebikes range isnt that long. its like 40km or so last i checked. so a roadie would leave it for dead on those longer trips
It's like watching Lance Armstrong on a climb back in the day it's that powerful 😂
The bike is on steroids instead of the rider.
@@zefallafez Yeah that's the difference between Lance Armstrong and Chris Froome
@@DanielSong39 💉💊
my bike ia a S-Works 2024 Creo 2. 28 lbs: The bike is efficient enough to be ridden in analog mode: and the power modes can assist with climbs and rest periods. For instance the other day I started a Road ride with 144% and ended with 122% on a 27 miles ride. Yesterday I did a short 18 mile Gravel ride in 29 degree Werther started with 119% ended with 113%. This bike could easily be used for 100mile plus rides without battery depletion. its a complete joy to ride. besides my Trek Rail 9.7 eMTB the Creo is the best purchase I have ever made and has produced the most joy. A great way to stay fit while producing the maximum joy.
8:59 what kind of handlebar is that?
It’s Canyon’s proprietary double bar that’s found on all their carbon Grails.
Boy that was so fun to watch! :D
Next episode: Si vs Hank's dad on unrestricted e-bike
It's obvious that the torque factor was the clincher. He seemed to close the gap a bit, but the jump start sealed his fate. Incredible machine.
I think we need a round 2 of Hank’s dad on an E-bike.
Mates having fun. Have to throw a Hank a bone every once and awhile. Ride to the level of your smile.
Reminds me when they did an E-MTB vs Chris Opie and the E-MTB got smashed :P.
Yea but MTB Chris probably hasn't got the legs
I used to believe that e bikes dont make sense thinking that if you have a motor why do you need pedals, but now I found that motors don't replace you legs, they just augment them. like all the tools that we use every day, think of it as a down hill, you go fast by the gravity alone then when you pedal, you just fly.
They are fast for sure , even uphill !
Why didn't you guys use a 25kph e-bike instead of an unrestricted one? Does a 25kph e-bike only go up to 25kph even when naturally pedaling? Or does it assist you until you get to 25kph and then your natural pedaling can make you go faster than 25kph? If that's the case Hank would've maybe won the 50 meter sprint but lost the other 2 races. I mean come on GCN - at least make it interesting. In this video Hank basically had a motorcycle, he was always going to win.
Mornin' girls and boys! what a gorgeous day out :) so when is this bike component shortage gonna improve?
When people stop believing there is a pandemic
@@manoz6194 so edgy
@@mbal4052 is the best you can do?
They used Unrestricted E-bikes for the Solar Impulse plane to start. Two Bikes were used to hold the Wing ends in the air, i think they got up to 110km/h... which is insane!!!
would have been interesting on the Ventoux or the Alpes du Huez :D
Hank " The horses are in the stable " Brilliant :)
Probably not the only one wondering....🤔
How long did it take for both guys & bike's to complete the 2.9 km lap ?
it's worth noting that changing the limiter on a bosch bike (Like the one in the video) isn't necessarily *Illegal* in the states, it can and will void your warranty and since the software you need to do it is directly connected to bosch's servers they can Actually brick the bike remotely so you'll have a $3000< paperweight
One should NEVER brag about a win on a eBike.
It was tongue-in-cheek satire. He "proved" that on gravel tires and not having experience on the bike, he could still pedal hard and win against a properly equipped rider by a wide margin. People are learning that you can still get a ton of exercise and the motor just takes you there faster. I ride/e-motor to and from trailheads instead of having to clog up roads by driving. Easy to trailer small kids and they love it vs a car.
The implications of unleashing the potential of what ebikes can contribute to society is incredible.
Fit bloke on an ebike against fit bloke on a pedal bike was never going to be fair. I don’t think that was the point.
Cracking! Thank you.
I'd be interested to see this over the 4v1 TT course as well, because you can't just tank along at 55-60kph over bad surfaces and round tight corners. Some circumspection would have to come into play or he'd end up in the hedge!
Of course, it's not road legal so it'll never happen...
What brand / model are the lights shown on the OBREA bike at 0:31 - 0:35?
It's like me with my MTB against my friends with roadies in a long road ride.
I know the pain, but if the road gets bad or it starts raining it's smooth sailing on my hard tail
It always amazes me when I look at my small e-bike li-ion battery and realize it stores almost 1 kilowatt hour of energy and costs less than one dollar to charge after riding 20 mph for 25 miles.
You've got to get there faster on an e-bike, its battery will run out long before Connor's.
Going the same speed as connor, and with pedal assist, you could probably get 100km per charge
Carry a spare battery.
the battery on that ebike is so compact you can probably carry 2 of them excluding the one on the bike.
At this time in 2021. It is not true that all these systems for Bosch remove restrictions totally, they only increase the limit. So be careful what you buy and check the new speed limit they may impose.
Speed box 3 finally does up to I think about 55mph as well as the great Volspeed up to around 60. Badass, Eplus and many of the others only increase it to in the 20's mph.
Now, on our pack road rides we sometimes jump to up to 40 mph on the flats for short distances. An ebike speed restricted in the middle of that pack and not dead last is like someone tapping their brakes with everyone else accelerating. What could go wrong ?
Ebike builders are making bikes very dangerous with their speed restrictions. Especially Bosch, they are the worst ones. You don't buy a Bosch ebike you only rent it. They still control everything you do.
They don't even allow you user configurable assist levels you have eco/tour/sport/turbo. But bosch decides what those are. No low/med/high or 0-100% user settings. They used to have a totally user configurable interface with their original motors but they learned their lesson. They don't really want you to become stronger on the ebike, they want you to be completely dependent on it. They also sell opioids. ;)
I'm in the US, I ride an older e-bike. (I'm older too)
Road bikes pass me all the time. LoL.
Do you think that at that speed you "should" be wearing a motorcycle helmet? What speed are bicycle helmets good to?
For S Pedelecs which effectively are a derestricted EPAC, in UK we have to register them as a moped with number plate, insurance, MOT after 3 years, plus wear a proper motorcycle safety helmet. Makes me wonder why for even normal bicycles we don’t have better bicycle helmets with speeds of say up to 50 mph possible or more downhill.
How much coffee did Hank have that morning? 😂
You need a license here in the UK aswell lads. Ebikes are restricted here to 15.5mph. There are calls for it to be 20mph so an ebike can keep up with the flow of traffic in residential areas as this is the speed limit in these areas.
But as soon as your ebike can reach 28mph you have to register the bike as a moped. Very long winded process. Im looking into building extended range ebike mopeds. Getting them registered for sale.
What I want to see is an electric fully optimized TT bike with full skin suit😅
the problem is why do you ride ? for the speed? for the workout? as a cheap transportation? quick transportation in the city? to enjoy time with friends? for touring? it all depends on your answers whether an ebike is better or worse for you. I'm mostly doing mtb currently , usually with friends, I would probably get an ebike if
-I lived in mountains, to do enduro/DH without the chairlift and ride longer distances and be able to practice my DH skills
-my riding buddies had eMTBs too
-eMTB were comparable to regular bikes in price for the same level of performance (not talking about straight line speed on a flat, smooth road)
-ebikes were not making progress so quickly and become obsolete after a few years, and if batteries could do a thousand cycles without losing too much range
-if I could commute safely with my bike. not the case because of 1/ driving my daughter to school 2/ not having bike path to do most of the commute safely 3/ working from home
probably a single one of those reasons could convince me to get one, maybe also if the ebike act passes
“Don’t try this at home”?? But it looks so freaking fun!!!! I love my LEGAL electric cargo bike and advocate for e-bikes to anyone that will listen!
What brand is your favourite?
@@anyikahimself I own a Rad Power bike. The Radwagon!
Thanks Jeff. I am actually looking for an ebike that can go further. My Carerrra ebike now struggles to do 30 miles on eco and I need one that can guarantee 100 miles minimum. Ebike riding does not make anyone lazy, it just gives you great flexibility. You exercise when you are feeling strong and you cruise around when you are not that strong but need to keep the heart pumping. Even while on eco, you are moving your legs and hence still exercising. Ebike all the way ! 💪
@Treez 93 agreed. 128 miles bike ride today in under 10 hours (inc stops for food) on my traditional bike on 65 year old legs. Unless you are infirm or have a disability, there is no excuse for not putting in some effort and getting yourself fitter to ride and an ordinary bike.
Lol..............My legs are still intact but I still say 'ebikes all the wayyyyyyyy' 🏃🏃🏃😜😜🏃🏃
Acoustic Hank would beat most people. Electric Hank is unstoppable! ⚡️
The level of salt in the comment section is enough to start a new Dead Sea lol.
It's not salty to not be surprised at a powered bike beating an unpowered one. It's just pointing out the obvious.
@@beeble2003 which is otherwise knows as being salty, because who needs to point out the obvious
@@justbreakingballs Sorry, my comment was very badly written. "Salty" means reacting angrily and resentfully, especially in response to defeat or disappointment. The comments aren't salty: people aren't angry or resentful at being beaten by a motorized bike. They're just saying "Well, duh, of course the e-bike wins." It's GCN who are pointing out the obvious, not the commenters.
It’s not stating the obvious, because it’s not obvious exactly what an un restricted E-bike is capable of, which is the purpose of the video. They’re not doing this to see who wins for Christ’s sake.
You guys must be a bundle of laughs down the pub.
@@drummerboy1390 Are motorbikes fast? Yes. Obviously.
If your thinking abt getting a SpeedBox get one! I got one for my trek rail e and I can do 45 mph cruising. It’s so much fun and the laughs when I over take people in cars is amazing!
Even I would win on that E-bike.
Gcn is like the top gear of road biking!
Hank: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Worth noting that in the US states that recognize Class 3, no license is required here, it's just that they usually can't use bicycle infrastructure except for painted-on bicycle lanes, unless specifically allowed with signage at the infrastructure. (In Europe and countries following European regulatory structures, they're legally a subclass of mopeds, hence the license and registration requirements.)
Thanks for this video lads! I have been wondering what the upper limits might be. I am currently riding a Specialized Creo Turbo SL Expert EVO and it is speed limited to 28mph here in the US but I'm seeing average speeds on Strava segments up around 25mph over 5 minute segments which puts me at or near the top of many segments for my local rides. Of course I never let those records stand but it's nice to see what's possible!