ISMO | The Silent Struggle (with English)
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2018
- Thank you, English language, for confusing me with silent letters! Can anyone relate? 😅
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"English has so many letters that you write down but never say."
French: Hold my beer.
At least French is more rational with silent letters to avoid confusing homophones!
@@MaoRatto not so rational from my pov...for example "haut" is pronounced "o", "maison" is pronounced "mezo" etc.
Word "Queue" is just letter Q with bunch of silent letter waiting in line ;)
@@Luckyboy94 In Finnish Q is basically same as K. Those who say it as G, should be taken behind the sauna.
Waiting in line to be heard, and disappointed to learn they are basically irrelevant.
@@Luckyboy94 Kova G on K. K, C (paitsi ennen E, I & Y:tä, ja CH kombossa) ja Q, sekä alku kirjaimesta X on samat äänteet, ne on vaan eri kirjaimet historiallisista syistä. K on soinniton äänne, hiljaisuutta ennen kun se äänne avataan seuraavaan. G taas on soinnillinen, kurkunpää värisee sen ajan, samoin ku vokaaleissa: A, E, I ...
@@Luckyboy94 Fail. Ne on alan ammattilaisten ohjeita. Et sinä autotehtaallekaan taida mennä korjaamaan miten he tekee autoja. Tai väitätkö ydinfyysikoille että niiden tutkimukset atomin hiukkasista on vääriä?
Kielikello 1/2002 (Jaakko Anhava)
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Q-kirjain on latinalaisen (siis länsimaisen) aakkoston vähäkäyttöisin. Se palautuu koko maailman ensimmäiseen aakkostoon, foinikialaiseen, jossa sen vastine ilmaisi seemiläisille kielille (joihin foinikia kuului) ominaista k:n kaltaista mutta takaisempaa konsonanttia; se esiintyy mm. sekä hepreassa että arabiassa (kirjaimen nimi kuuluu hepreaksi kof, arabiaksi kaf). Fonetiikassa tämän äänteen nimi on soinniton velaariklusiili, ja sitä merkitään alapisteellisellä k:lla (kuten edellä heprean ja arabian kirjainten nimissä). Arabian tavallisessa latinaistuksessa tätä äännettä merkitään q:lla, kuten viime aikoina paljon esillä olleen terroristijärjestö al-Qaidan nimessä.
Kreikkalaiset alkoivat kirjoittaa omaa kieltään foinikialaisesta muokatulla aakkostolla, johon kreikan esiklassisella kaudella kuului myös foinikialaisen q:n vastine, kreikkalaiselta nimeltään koppa, vaikkei kreikassa ollut vastaavaa äännettä. Se jäi klassiselle ajalle tultaessa kreikassa pois käytöstä, mutta ehti lainautua etruskilaiseen ja sitä kautta latinalaiseen aakkostoon - vaikka myöskään latinassa ei tätä äännettä ollut, niin kuin ei missään muussakaan Euroopan kielessä.
Latinassa q vakiintui esiintymään yksinomaan u:n yhteydessä ilmaisemaan konsonanttiyhtymää kv - on siis tärkeää huomata, että q ei latinassa eikä ylipäätään missään Euroopan kielessä (yhtä lukuun ottamatta) yksinään ilmaise mitään äännettä.
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Kielikello: Kielenhuollon tiedotuslehti on Kotimaisten kielten keskuksen kielitoimiston julkaisu, jossa käsitellään kieleen liittyviä ilmiöitä. Lehteä on julkaistu vuodesta 1968 alkaen. Sen alkuperäinen alaotsikko oli ”Suomen Akatemian kielitoimiston tiedotuslehti”. Lehden ensimmäinen päätoimittaja Matti Sadeniemi kuvasi Kielikellon tavoitteita lehden ensimmäisessä numerossa seuraavasti:[1]
»Tämä Kielikello ei tietenkään ole juorulehti - kuten nimi hieman ilkikurisesti saattaa erehdyttää uskomaan - vaan se haluaa kiinnittää lukijoidensa huomiota kielenkäyttökysymyksiin ja välittää tietoa Suomen Akatemian kielitoimiston suosituksista. Se pyrkii myös avaamaan lukijoille näkymiä kielen maailmaan.»
Painetun Kielikellon rinnalle avattiin vuonna 2001 sähköinen Verkko-Kielikello. Verkkoversio oli aluksi maksullinen, mutta huhtikuussa 2014 lehden arkisto avattiin vapaasti käytettäväksi internetissä aina edeltävän julkaisuvuoden viimeiseen numeroon saakka.
Painetun lehden julkaiseminen päättyi numeroon 4/2017. Vuodesta 2018 lähtien lehti on ilmestynyt ainoastaan verkossa. Se on luettavissa ilmaiseksi.[2]
- Eli jos jonkun kommenteilla suomen kielestä on painoarvoa, niin Kotimaisten kielten keskuksen kielitoimistolla. On toki totta, että kielistä aina löytyy jotain, mitä tuo kielitoimisto ei ole tutkinut. Mutta jos väität vastaan johonkin mitä he ovat tutkineet - tai siis koonneet tutkijoiden töitä, sinun on parempi tuoda todisteita, ja ei kai 'mun mielestä' ole silloin oikein kantava arkumentti - öö - argumentti.
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Ehkä valaisevaa on että Q:n ääntämystä G:nä esiintyy vain suomalaisilla... vaan ei niissä kielissä mistä kirjain on lähtöisin. Qon K, tai oikeastaan sen taaempi versio, kuten mm. Selänne joskus sanoo K.n
Ive been wondering how you it is pronounced for a long time 😂
I saw some videos of Finnish songs with subtitles, and I'm jealous how efficient the writing is. All the letters seem to make more or less the same sound all the time, and none of them are silent.
Also the stress is usually on the first syllable, so that Helsinki is pronounced HELsinki and not HelSINki (most English speakers mispronounce it the second way).
You are right. ..nk.. and ..ng.. are basically only exceptions.
Well, we compensate for this effectiveness by having way longer words than would be necessary. :)
Most of that is the result of the standardized written language coming later and using an alphabet with enough letters for (almost) every sound. Imagine how phonetic English could be if you hit a reset button and spelt all the words just how they sound. That effort would also require an English alphabet with at least 44 letters.
Yes, each letter is ALWAYS pronounced and every Finnish word always stresses the first syllable. It is literal and predictable, and this is how Finns are: literal, factual, not exaggerated.
Just wait until he learns French.
Why would any sane person do that though?
Ouais, vous avez raison.
I guess I'm certified insane then.
You are sooooo right!
(Vous avez tellement raison !)
And an explaination of silent letters in english could be that english uses a lot of french/latin (and also german) where there are many silent letters...
silent words
Best outro I've seen on a YT video in quite a while.
I think its scary
:-( I'm sorry. It's in the same style as the old black & white movies that didn't have sound. I thought that was a clever way to carry thru the whole "silent" theme he was exploring.
Yep it was a clever joke also. "click on something" XD
@ColdHeart Oh my gosh! That completely escaped me until you commented! Brilliant! Thanks. Now I enjoy it _even more_ :-)
@@Jiepers explain please.
My math teacher used to say his name was Fra3nk spelt with a silent 3.
MY BELLY IS FLAT.
L is silent. 😜
Which L - do you say bely or bely?
Okay, I have seen all of your English speaking posts. They are absolutely hilarious. I love them.
Amazing. Your accent actually helps a lot. Great comedian.
Ismo, you're the best!
TerryFGM no no, it's *Ismo*
Write it down but oshshsh lol
OMG, that was hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.
I'm getting flashbacks to some of Victor Borge's old routines, and that is not a bad thing.
This guy is a genius
I'm a Malaysian and English has been my second language since I was seven. It's interesting to see other non-native speakers' experiences on the language..
TerryFGM Well, he kind of just said it. He called himself a non-native speaker 😊
I think ismo has better command of the English language than most native speakers. His comedy is intelligent because he can decipher and analyze English language so well
Ismo is soooo funny. Indeed for me silent letters has always been a struggle for me in school. And silent numbers could be possible 🤣
Ismo looks like a Hobbit, but I mean that in a good way.
Ismo plzzzzz more videos more often x)
Just come to my neighborhood. We use a subtle and honest technique to master your knowledge of our foreign language.
Awesome. Just awesome!
You are REALLY GREAT!!
How about French? Ha! My maiden name is Robitaille. The last 3 letters are silent 😏 my mother is Finnish so I know the struggle is real 😀
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wait until Ismo starts mastering French next
IS NO, you have to make separate language videos, like this one - no swearing, useful for children in school. My son is doing silent letters now. Schools could use them in class. Much more fun with your personality. Keep it up
If you get a chance go see him, his hilarious!😂😂
You are great!
Ha! FIN! I get it.
Thank you for Kaapo Kakko!!!
silent letters are there to help you pronounce the word properly as well as differentiate things from other things that sound the same, for instance NIGHT/KNIGHT
This is why ACCENT MARKS should be added to English along side purge CH = K I have had ideas to make a reform woth custom marks TO SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THIS MADNESS. Fore and four, including for make the same noise... English should have a letter for kn, Gh needs to just rot, Wh into H or W with accent marks to help avoid confusing the words! Accent marks!!!
GOOD POINT!!
@@bagobo2 When I read my own tongue after reading other people's tongues. I can't help but think my own language's OWN writing is... Bad, inefficient, gives no hints to say words. Good example of this bull crap is
Wind vs. Wind?
When talking about the weather.
Wiȇnd. The inverted breve is to say " Hey this sound is assimilating into E when a consonant is after it. Though in my accent, it turns a long vowel. With the stress looking like this " Wiȇn | d ". The | = stress of it. When i or e + n or m, it's always longer than t,d, ck,
While if the case is a verb like " Winding up a machine ".
Wīnd would make it much easier. To make a logical sound correspondence being.
Wīnd, Mīnd, and Kīnd
Also CH = SH should be purged as it's a French spelling, because we use their lexicon for our academic vocabulary, doesn't mean we should spell like them to make it more difficult to write and spell! People should be able to sound their words like how they write their words, with great guidance! How is a beginner supposed to know Ocean's CE is a SH sound? Same with Machine?
For me, I would change it Machine -> mŭshín. ŭ = unstressed vowel counterparts, or " hey this isn't where the stress is ". For me, in my accent, the schwa is always turning into the i in hit, mitt, kit, fit. Though the t's in those words are ALWAYS asperated with a slightly longer vowel.
@@bagobo2 The more I like at the English writing system, the more I want to tear my eye balls out of my skull. HOW THE HECK US ENGLISH SPEAKERS TOLLERATE NO ACCENT MARKS OR LETTERS TO HELP WRITE OUR LANGUAGE?
The fact our = are in pronunciation is INEXCUSABLE! German makes more sense, Swedish makes more sense, Italian is perfection, French has the advantage of accent marks with some logical reasons because of serious sound mergers, and Most Germanic tongues aren't nearly as messed up as English EXCEPT DANISH!
FINish
You are so funny and sweet.
more unnessesary things in English language - Indefinite Articles: a and an
a = used before word that starts with vowel
an = used before word that starts with consonant
...they use it, so that they would know is the word starting with vowel or consonant?
...but you have to know which it is before you can choose the article anyway.
So why bother?
Best part is that the system doesn't even work.
An our
An hour
???
*a with consonants, an with vowels.
And also ... a unicorn , an umbrella , depending on how you pronounce the 'u'. j vs a
That actually exists because of pronunciation reasons. It's easier for the natives to combine two vowels with a consonant, which is why you use aN before a word that starts with a vowel. For the ones starting with a consonant you don't need it anymore. Try to pronounce *a hour* (where the H is silent) and *an machine* (where you have two consonants one after another) out loud and then pronounce them according to the rule and you'll see the difference.
Most languages are more rediculous with articles. English is so easy compared to them. Take German for example, you have ein, eine, einer, einem and they are used in different circumstances and in different ways. For definite articles, you have der, die, das, dem, den, and I think one other one. English is so easy.
Hyvä Ismo!! Milloin tulet ruotsiin?
Miksi kukaan haluaisi tulla Ruotsiin?
I can hear Yoda in you
Just Imagine learning French then
Why would anybody imagine learning French? Usually people are sane and sane people especially.
* Ismo on the Kingi.) * Totuus löytyy alansa mestarilta. * Aivan niin, siis nyt laitetaan Arto Lauri UA-cama tilaukseen, Jotta totuus tulee esille!
In Tea, e&a are silent...
really new !
Phonetic languages are the best.
Haha...
I mean just do what I do and give up! It's a lot easier!
No need to give up. Just learn the regular patterns, and the silent letter words and irregular pronounciation you learn one by one. Many of them are loan words from some other language to English. Like pizza. There they don't say the z like normally. A drunken pisser might call himself pizzer.
Just pick first those you think important. The rest, when they come along. And you will likely not need to learn them all.
Elvea Skyefal Great tip. I will start using that to A, E and Is too, because there is no way to tell how they should be pronaunced on different times.
A=I
I=E
E=I
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Silent is golden.
😂😂😂😂😂 HES FUNNY
The only silent letter we need is e, because of all the different vowel pronunciations that change the meaning of a word. Twin vs Twine, for instance.
But you don’t need it. It would be better to change the spelling to twain.
@@hendrong It would be best to add NEW accent marks to deal with most words for example BRED and BREAD have the same sound, but READ and REED got the same, EA and EE mergers can be covered with a circumflex. Pencils has the same sound if said " pen souls ", so the spelling should be "Pençols" /IPA's o/ As C + i or e = S sound, but words that break that rule in the IPA should gain the cedilla. Like noticeable -> notiçable as that spelling would be great and shorter.
@@hendrong Twine, and twin is acceptable, i's irregularity of sounds is terrible though. Silent letters are okay if they're regular like " know and no ", but we should get new accent marks to avoid confusion for readers! For example WH words that became one noise of either W or H....
CH is a mess, There should be a way to make it less confusing for example? ĈH for loch, ĆH for chef, CH for Church, Words like Archimedes, ARCH, CHRIST should lose that CH in favor of Ǩ Why an accent for K BEING caron? to avoid mixing up with other words.
This is why I say " English needs accent marks " as why write silent letters when the words letters should use accent marks for vowels and consonants equally to deal with a lot of it.
I much prefer English silent letters than Finnish endless double letters haha
Finnish double letters are much easier than English silent letters, as they are way more consistent, and once you get the muscle memory down in your head it's super easy. They're simply an extended version of the letter, if there are two letters, simply take the letter's sound and extend it twice as long. If the letter has a "pop"-like kinda sound like T/P/K, you simply hold your tongue before making the pop sound for a moment. If the letter has a "humming"-like sound before the pop like B/D, you hold the humming sound for a moment and then do the pop.
It seems complex, but it's actually very simple, and with just a few days of practice you can get it down really quickly!
But be glad you don't need to learn Finnish, I sometimes wonder how I ever learnt this language.
I don't know Finnish. But I have been to Finland. And I have one word for you 😀 Oopera! 71 silent O .😵😂🙏✌️
If you mean Ooppera, O its not silent. We say both Os 😃
Luca Brasi thx. When I was in Helsinki I asked a Finnish friend and they said it was usually pronounced just like in English. But I am good with , both Os being pronounced in correct Finnish. You'll know better than me and hearsay. 😀✌️
@@MrDisasterboy English seems to use double-o with Opera. Not sure, I'm not native speaker so I'm a bit unsure how English speakers pronounce the word.
@@gJonii it's not the double O like look sound. Not like open either! It's like the O in boss!
English writing is so confusing! 👍:-(
English doesn't have a logical system about long and short vowels and consonants. "Boss" is a good example. The vowel is definitely long but isn't spelled that way. Then you use the double o for a completely different vowel sound (look, took etc). In Finnish, if the vowel's the same, the sound is the same, always. If there are two of them, the sound is held longer, always. The same goes for consonants, with some rare exceptions. So opera, oopera, oppera and ooppera would all be pronounced differently. (Ooppera is the correct version.) Though foreigners may struggle with these and not always be able to tell the difference.
I have spoke english my whole life and I still dont understand it.
You say "I have spoke english my whole life" and still you have a basic mistake in that sentence😅
Lol my point exactly.
I'm from the United states. I speak English and bad english. I don't talk English good yet
Ismo's name has a silent 'G' . . .
😅✌️
Strange you should mention silent numbers. Chinese is probably the only language with upper-case numbers. It is used by accountants to prevent intentional alterations to change one number to another.
Interesting. Didnt know this
@@theallseeingeye9388 My niece-in-law is an accountant and I saw strange characters in her wristwatch which didn't resemble Chinese numerals so I asked.
Also French I think
Think about word PEUGEOT ;O Thats reaaaaly fucked up.
Oh boy, if you don't like silent letters let me warn you strongly against the French language!
John Anthony Kazos Jr. In French they are at least systematic most of the time. You can normally anticipate which sound you should form.
In English there are more silent letters which don't have a rule why they're not said.
timomastosalo Like queue. Who the F invented letter where you left 80% of letters out?
But silent letters are not even the worst thing. Somebody could manage to explane how pounds is shortened to lbs, but there is no way that anyone can do the same with 'colonel'.
Xtreem FaiL I've always thought the l(L) in lbs has something to do with measuring. Like l in the horoscope for 'scales' is libra. Something to do with the verb to measure, or scale things? Just guessing.
But pounds... why not bounds :) Libra p- BoundS, easy :)
Lb comes from latin, it means "Libra" which means weight.
In French, the challenge is words like l’œil and grenouille. In Finnish, it is yötä. But all those letters in Finnish are pronounced 😀 you just have to know how to say them!
Debris
Live Wire it’s a French word my friend
james vescio Taken from French to English.
You should try French, my friend... ;-)
That's nonsense! The "5" is silent.
Oh man, have you heard of French though?
More silent letters - but more logical. In French you can normally guess how an unfamiliar word is said: less exceptions by far :) The English silent letters are more arbitrary, especially if we count in names. Would you thoroughly wrestle an' honestly guess all the subtle silent le''ers in this tough sentence where foreigners ought to acquire the knowledge which witch is the witch which should be dropt? :)
ASS-MO!
Irish accent? Hmm
DOCWHOK9 That’s definately not an Irish accent🤣🤣 what are you talking about
Lmfao
Dude I'm trying to learn Finnish and you do have silent letters. Like you write kaksikymmentäyksi but everyone says kakskytyks. That's a lot of silent letters dude
Could that be a grammar thing?
Kind of like English has "I am" vs "I''m" that doesn't mean "I am" has a silent a because "I'm" is a word we use.
Olen myös oppimassa ja there are A LOT of rules and changes depending on context and just basic formalities. For example "mina" or the "I" isn't always necessary whereas it would be in english. If I was asked "Puhutko sina suomea?" the answer the lesson says one can give is kyllä puhun vähän" (there are better examples but none are jumping to mind and emphasis on the vähän over here..)
And yes there are exceptions in every language but for the most part Finnish words are pronounced phonetically- and that's been a breath of fresh air from English and probably my favourite thing about it from a studious perspective.
From a less studious perspective my favourite thing so far though was when I learnt that ice is "jää" and water is "vesi"
I got a kick out of the idea of going into a place to order five glasses of ice water just so I could say "Viisi vesi ja jää" (by the way the grammar on that is DEFINITELY incorrect for an actual restaurant order so don't go to a restaurant in Finland just to order five glasses of ice water.)
I think that is an abbreviation... I knew a few numbers (ticket prices) in finnish when I used to work in the Stockholm transit system, and the number kaksikymmentakos (26, sorry for horrible spelling) was almost always shortened to kakskytkos. That doesn't mean there are a lot of silent letters in the long form of the word though.
However, it DOES mean that finnish has quite a few words that are a LOT longer than they need to be - to the point where fins themselves don't even want to say the whole thing.
Come on, dear neighbours, you know it's true. :-)
in official language: 26 = kaksikymmentäkuusi. in spoken language: 26 ≈ kakskytkuus or kakskytäkuus... depending on region .. .
Yeah, that's cause nobody speaks the formal version of the language. "Kakskytyks" is actually written like that, "kaksikymmentäyksi" is the formal version and is pronounced differently.
If anything that is an example just how detached formal, literary Finnish is from spoken Finnish. Which makes sense, considering it was essentially manufactured.
If inglish wuld bii written laik its speeken it wuld be a compliit mess. And if that text wuld bii spouken it wuld saund exactli like Ismo spiiks Inglish.
So I'm perfectly fine with the way English is written :)
Ismo on loistava mutta oiskohan aika keksiä uutta matskua... :O
Electro Duck ei..
no eipä sitte, mennää näillä
Ei se niin helppoo oo
Ei olekaan. Silti
These are pretty old jokes. It is a great bit but nothing new ismo has not done previously
miks tää on piilotettu
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