Muffin, I think if you want a perspective of the ground battle from the air you should have a drone (like the mq1) and/or a helicopter at high altitude
To my fellow German players: -Angling your tank: 👍 (Find a video if you don't know how to properly) -Aim for the chassey machine gun of a jumbo -Don't be blind (don't focus on one spot for too long like to your left or forward/look around more)
I'm the exact opposite, I found germany beyond boring. but loved playing the US. Especially around 5.7 Sure they got big armour big gun (especially at 5.3 and onwards) but they are just boring. ooh I bounce every shot to my front and can point at people and they blow up.. no skill involved. Let me go max speed vroom vroom flanking and hope that things work out. my monkeybrain needs a fast reload and high mobility. I won't even touch the soviets because of their... everything.
@@TheUmdexMan Oh I know but I god damn hate HEATFS. I prefer to shoot things and it kills them, not shoot things and their crew goes orange lol. I prefer being able to 1 hit kill things over having a lot of penetration.
@@cyberarchitect9280 Germany obviously. German armour is volumetric hell for anyone facing them, only exception is the tiger 1 which is ironically pretty easy to kill as long as the person using it isn't aware of this mythical thing called "angling" But germany from 5.7 to 6.7 has the easiest time possible objectively.
Was really fun to participate in these games, sadly I couldn't play last match as I don't have high tier planes or tanks. Was alot harder to fight vs usa in the air 2nd round. GG, was fun. Can't wait for next one.
@@Emporerhubby They could use a heli with a distinctive look that doesn't belong to either participating nation. Maybe a custom camo thats all white with a big camera icon painted on the side? Then just put one on each team so any accidental kills on the noncombatants should even out.
The second round really shows how amazing the stabilizers on the American tanks are. You see 76 shermans pulling around corners and killing tigers who were already aimed at that corner. It's crazy.
In my experience German and Russian players tend to get lazy because they are so used to bouncing shots in the u.s tanks you know if you get touched it’s over so you are constantly on high alert
@@forkliftcertifed123 also it doesnt even matter my point still stands that the luftwaffe defended and fought off 4 separate air forces for a portion of the war, sure they got wrecked at some point but they still held on 1v4
wait which br ? cause anything below 5.3 germany is usually shit whit a very heavy gun mounted into it that will SOMETIMES work as intended because gajin edit: oh right also, anything below 3.3 cant pen shit unless its a stug or the other tank distroyer in the same research line
German tree is probably better but german mains are so braindead. If I play germans at 5.7 I constantly get 6-8 kills but if I play Usa 5.7 i get 3-5 kills a match
crazy how when germany owns the sky's they start winning its almost like real life when german losses the air war they get smoked russia france all of that happened when they lose the air war so its almost like irl.
I think it was rigged from the beginning. Most german players on Tier III were the classic Tiger players. Seeing that they bring full ammo with. And compare germany Tier VII to other nations is just unfair, since Germany is one of the shittiest high tier nations, ground an air wise. Other nations either got better leopards or something equaly good, while germany got no air. Tier II, IV, VI would have been fairer, in my opinion.
BR ~9.0 - kinda equal, but I think Germany has more vehicles. US needs to rely on XM-1 to supplement lack of MBTs. BR ~10.0 - Absolute US domination, by far best loadout, solid setup of everything from MBTs, light tanks to AAs. Top BR absolutely dominated by Germans and onlaught of their Leos.
Round 2 showed a clear issue on the US... tons of m18's in an urban environment. The m18 CAN work in urban, but there's tons of planes up and it has no stabilizer. At the same time very few of those m18's were actually scouting enemies as far as I can tell which is their only big advantage. Shermans are the kings of urban warfare. Bringing out a m18 is a bad idea comparatively. The jumbo isn't a bad idea but really there should've been a few more m4a3 76's on the US side. they can do a lot of damage and their only downside is armour.
For some reason I highly doubt the jumbo was that strong irl. It’s a shame that you can use that BS in 1.0/3.3 BR. As a German player I fucking hate it. But I figured out I must shoot certain areas to immobilize it and the cannon. I’m close to the sturer emil and tiger h1
My favorite BR is 7.0 with the US because the T34 and T29 are just amazing heavy tanks but since im done with my US grind im doing my russian grind even though i have more progress with germany i just find the krauts boring
Why don’t you make a match but only early war tanks no discord and only two people can communicate to other tanks if that command tank dies it’s a man for themselfs
People think the Germans had limited casualties during the invasion of France but in some moments their tanks sucked cause all the Germans had were short guns on 38Ts panzer 2s, 4s, 3s
That shows how unbalanced is the military of germany after the Soviets captured germany and changed it to DDR and BRD that they hadnt any chance to develope own tanks etc more advanced on the VII rank
why you take a small city map for rank 3 and you know that the german guns are great for targets that are far away😢 why didn’t take a map that is big but not to big for the bad guns from usa.
I think the stabilizers on the Shermans helped a lot
Muffin, I think if you want a perspective of the ground battle from the air you should have a drone (like the mq1) and/or a helicopter at high altitude
To my fellow German players:
-Angling your tank: 👍
(Find a video if you don't know how to properly)
-Aim for the chassey machine gun of a jumbo
-Don't be blind (don't focus on one spot for too long like to your left or forward/look around more)
To my fellow American players:
-CLAP DEM GERMAN CHEEKS
-USA, USA, USA, USA!!!! 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thx for the advice 🫡
@@4tbf616HOORAH BROTHER
@@matthewjones39that Russian😂😂
I think every tree has its pros and cons but so far (I have 5.3 in both) I enjoyed Germany a bit more, especially at 3.7
I'm the exact opposite, I found germany beyond boring. but loved playing the US. Especially around 5.7
Sure they got big armour big gun (especially at 5.3 and onwards) but they are just boring. ooh I bounce every shot to my front and can point at people and they blow up.. no skill involved. Let me go max speed vroom vroom flanking and hope that things work out.
my monkeybrain needs a fast reload and high mobility. I won't even touch the soviets because of their... everything.
@@Gary_The_Metroif you want speed you should try Italy :)
@@TheUmdexMan Oh I know but I god damn hate HEATFS.
I prefer to shoot things and it kills them, not shoot things and their crew goes orange lol.
I prefer being able to 1 hit kill things over having a lot of penetration.
@@Gary_The_Metro what nation do you mean "oh they just bounced"?
@@cyberarchitect9280 Germany obviously.
German armour is volumetric hell for anyone facing them, only exception is the tiger 1 which is ironically pretty easy to kill as long as the person using it isn't aware of this mythical thing called "angling"
But germany from 5.7 to 6.7 has the easiest time possible objectively.
To be honest I prefer the Germany. Keep the videos up! They are awesome
Was really fun to participate in these games, sadly I couldn't play last match as I don't have high tier planes or tanks.
Was alot harder to fight vs usa in the air 2nd round.
GG, was fun. Can't wait for next one.
Ya know we need a game mode like this where you can spawn as much as you like and the only way to win is trough caps
Yeah pick 1 tank from hangar and you will always respawn with that tank
Object 279
Hey thundermuffin. I think a great idea would be to use Heli’s with no armament for the camera crews over the battle. Would get some cool shots I bet.
But people would shoot the helicopters down and get points for that.
@@Emporerhubby They could use a heli with a distinctive look that doesn't belong to either participating nation. Maybe a custom camo thats all white with a big camera icon painted on the side? Then just put one on each team so any accidental kills on the noncombatants should even out.
the luck i had to see this after 1 second since it was posted
I love how these tournaments are a throw back to your Wotb nation vs nation in the way that tiers go from 3-10 although in this case it’s 1-7
15:27 why can u see a ka 50 team killing in the killfeed
I hate hearing people pronounce the Brummbär in english lmfao... "Broom Bar"
The second round really shows how amazing the stabilizers on the American tanks are. You see 76 shermans pulling around corners and killing tigers who were already aimed at that corner. It's crazy.
In my experience German and Russian players tend to get lazy because they are so used to bouncing shots in the u.s tanks you know if you get touched it’s over so you are constantly on high alert
Bruhh, in the tier 7 round, Germany had tanks on their side that weren’t even tier 7. How’s that fair
No Locusts were harmed in the making of this video
it looks like he died when he hit the fence that apparently is having issues 1:56
I would love to see UK vs France in the historic rivalry
I’m surprised I didn’t see any marder 3s, those things are the best rank 1 sniper that doesn’t use DS (from my experience)
These videos never disappoint me👍
It depends on the BR which is better.. I really like the low BR shermans.. But I can not stand them over 5.3. Then there is the Panther
Tug of war experiment. Call it Tugthunder
Bro the intro looked like a movie
I mean the luftwaffe fought off 4 Entire airforces on their own for most of the war its no wonder
Are you mentally challenged?
the entire Luftwaffe was destroyed in one battle by one airforce.
@@forkliftcertifed123 please name that one airforce
@@forkliftcertifed123 also it doesnt even matter my point still stands that the luftwaffe defended and fought off 4 separate air forces for a portion of the war, sure they got wrecked at some point but they still held on 1v4
@@adimaiuniversal4361 The Battle of Britain. Read up on it.
I was so sad I couldnt play in this as a dedicated us main.
15:05 a window of oportunitys😅😂
Don't compare nations, because "It's not the plane, but the pilot"
2nd Game was missing the Tiger 2, I never see just Tiger E/H1 or Panthers, there's also Tiger 2
1:21 that stug do be stuging
“I see no god up here other than me”
its not the coutry its the player
The best Tiger player could beat the worst Abrams player
You should also do sub nations like South Africa and Hungary.
You can’t
Took me a few watches to notice the bias
In my opinion Germany have better ground vehicles and USA have better aircraft ngl
US mains also ass
German aircraft are great in air RB, but they aren't as well suited to groud RB imo
tornado goes hard bro @@russman3787
wait which br ?
cause anything below 5.3 germany is usually shit whit a very heavy gun mounted into it that will SOMETIMES work as intended because gajin
edit: oh right also, anything below 3.3 cant pen shit unless its a stug or the other tank distroyer in the same research line
@@agustinmelar5496are you tripping germany gets some of the best pen rates at low tier
I do really like close range in america as many of my shermans had little to no bullet velocity
German tree is probably better but german mains are so braindead. If I play germans at 5.7 I constantly get 6-8 kills but if I play Usa 5.7 i get 3-5 kills a match
You should do Germany vs Russia. That would be interesting
11:48 spot the thing that shouldn't be in the match...
hint: vvv
it's in the kill feed
What was it
@@Lolski_924 ka-50 tk'ing a panther
@@n1co2017Apparently was a mod dealing with a cheater, hence the clantag
I made the right choice choosing the Freedom tech tree
Grund no air yes
Damn every nation invading poland now lol
well thats not how that works 20:17
3:02 hilarious
how does he have a gunner on top of the tank on 11:37 mine is empty and turret moves on its own
I think if they played a open Map a Rank Three Germany would have won
Agreed
you should play in open map not city map
Do britian next
I love this game, I used to play but my computer is to old. 😭
This would have been a lot more balanced without the GBUs constantly bombing our spawn, but it was fun either way
Lol American Cas be like at 5.3
can you doo someting with sweden being one main side
No seriously tho why are german players so blind? It's not even a joke they just shoot the strongest spots only and never look around lol
18:29 Yea i think we are dominating
crazy how when germany owns the sky's they start winning its almost like real life when german losses the air war they get smoked russia france all of that happened when they lose the air war so its almost like irl.
11:46, random Ka-50 in the killfeed
that's one of Muffin's mods dealing with a cheater.
a lot of times the reson america exels at mid teir is becasue of the stab
Love your video ( I hope France win the next match she’s in ) ❤
Drift in 17:15
Was Norden there for the rank 7 match?
well last battle was cas hell
It's not the country it's the player......... Exept when you play France
Yknow muffin i dont think germany is bad its just the players
UK vs Italy
Italy has already lost 3-0 against France.
i would really love to appeal in your discord server tbh
I think it was rigged from the beginning. Most german players on Tier III were the classic Tiger players. Seeing that they bring full ammo with.
And compare germany Tier VII to other nations is just unfair, since Germany is one of the shittiest high tier nations, ground an air wise. Other nations either got better leopards or something equaly good, while germany got no air.
Tier II, IV, VI would have been fairer, in my opinion.
Anyone remember blitz with muffin
I do:)
Can you do panther vs jumbo or m4 sherman
Germany is a good coutry it suffer from wanabe michael witmans but the good players they are beasts and probbably the best in game
As a USA main I can confirm that our planes can decide a match
whats up with the description
BR ~9.0 - kinda equal, but I think Germany has more vehicles. US needs to rely on XM-1 to supplement lack of MBTs.
BR ~10.0 - Absolute US domination, by far best loadout, solid setup of everything from MBTs, light tanks to AAs.
Top BR absolutely dominated by Germans and onlaught of their Leos.
Can you make battle of stonne at futur , please ?
Round 2 showed a clear issue on the US... tons of m18's in an urban environment.
The m18 CAN work in urban, but there's tons of planes up and it has no stabilizer. At the same time very few of those m18's were actually scouting enemies as far as I can tell which is their only big advantage.
Shermans are the kings of urban warfare. Bringing out a m18 is a bad idea comparatively.
The jumbo isn't a bad idea but really there should've been a few more m4a3 76's on the US side. they can do a lot of damage and their only downside is armour.
You want Warthunder players in scout tanks to remember they can scout? Literally impossible.
naaah ya'll got it entirely wrong freddy fazbear would beat every military
Where is the AA?
For some reason I highly doubt the jumbo was that strong irl. It’s a shame that you can use that BS in 1.0/3.3 BR. As a German player I fucking hate it. But I figured out I must shoot certain areas to immobilize it and the cannon. I’m close to the sturer emil and tiger h1
I don’t understand why the jumbo’s are so good in this game none of the US tanks were that good in the war
Its not about the tank, it’s about the commander. Even tho a good tiger or panther player should easily win from a Sherman with a short 75mm cannon
Muffin, could you please do aircraft Germany versus USSR?
That would suck
Sry but i think that you only took bad germany players the tanks are Right used sooo much better
My favorite BR is 7.0 with the US because the T34 and T29 are just amazing heavy tanks but since im done with my US grind im doing my russian grind even though i have more progress with germany i just find the krauts boring
Why don’t you make a match but only early war tanks no discord and only two people can communicate to other tanks if that command tank dies it’s a man for themselfs
The map selection really screwed Germany over after pre ww2
People think the Germans had limited casualties during the invasion of France but in some moments their tanks sucked cause all the Germans had were short guns on 38Ts panzer 2s, 4s, 3s
love these videos
If the second game had been in an open place like Poland...the American team would have lost
I think the last match needs a redo.
There were to many Rank 8 planes from the americans in the sky.
And what happened in round 1?
Don't cry
I am not trying to be USA bias but if you think about it battle is never fair
M22 versus KV 2
of course your country won when you arranged it with that second map and better communication on the us side (I assume)
Happy nation living in a happy nation
War Thunder Tank WW2 WW3 5.7 8.7 11.7 VS 5.7 8.7 11.7 Tank WW2 WW3
in real life germany tanks are way better then the usa ones. abraham would lose every battle againt the leopard
Muffin yyou Said you Change between Sides while battel but you Player ONLY in the US Team i dont think this was vers fair
That shows how unbalanced is the military of germany after the Soviets captured germany and changed it to DDR and BRD that they hadnt any chance to develope own tanks etc more advanced on the VII rank
The M22 is the best tier 1 tank I kid you not
You should have told me, im a heavy tank main including the tiger
I say for top tier air I would say USA would win that’s my opinion
only sky its a 2-1 or a 3-0
ATTACK THE D POINT!
It was rigged you should do a long range map
Now thats just unfair, because the German use High Velozity gun
@@dolfi2008 that's fair since that what they're designed to do
@@Nitrox_909 well, that's one sided fight. Just like If they play in city map. German stood no chance
@@dolfi2008 so to balance it out tjey should 've done a long range map
@@Nitrox_909 but that's becoming unbalanced, because long range fight make it easier for Germany. whining bastard they're
Germany win in may ❤
US is literally carried by their air force. As said, battles are won from the skies.
Classic us w
Maybe without planes next time, and not focused on urban environments especially at top tier
why you take a small city map for rank 3 and you know that the german guns are great for targets that are far away😢 why didn’t take a map that is big but not to big for the bad guns from usa.
If the battle for Britain was German