OK, now that the review embargo on P5R has lifted, I really appreciate this video more, because literally NONE of the reviews I’ve read/watched have mentioned that Tech damage got a complete overhaul, even in passing.
Thank you for the chart at 6:20 made learning technical combos much easier. Really helped when picking kits for my high level persona. The new technical system has me playing the game differently this time and I love it!
This video and the Baton Pass one were really well done and informative! The only question I have is do the ranks for both mechanics carry over into new game plus like social stats?
Goro Akechi Thanks! I figured they wouldn’t carry over but I just wanted to make sure. Guess I’ll have to make them the Phantom Thieves of Pool & Darts every play through then!
This man is an absolute legend. Guides are simple, to the point, thorough, but don’t take longer than necessary. Subscribed. This is now my go to channel if I need to understand something.
Once again to Rozalin good job on another vid very informative, I abuse tech damage now in my 5th playthrough, you will want to abuse it as it will make battles easier as knocking them down is a free baton pass. ALso freezing and enemy that does not repel phys will still work even if they resist it, same with sleep. Listen to when makoto says when to use the status change on battles and she will tell you what you should use the base skills to use. example when she says an enemy is electrified melee might work but you might get shocked do not physical attack that use a physical skill as doing your attack could transfer it to you. Once you read the last book to increase tech damage via other skills. ALSo Kohryu must max out the Hierophant persona has universal law which increases tech damage by 50% as a trait. This persona is very good for technical damage as it gains psy skills.
Oh my gosh. I’m honestly upset I didn’t know about this. I use shock/burn/freeze so much and thoughts billiards was only to help increase social stats/confidants. I’m on the third semester so there’s no way I’ll be able to get through all 4 ranks.
When i Maxed out my technical rank from 3 to 4, I only needed to read the book the guy from the store gave me. I didnt need to read 5 books In order to get lvl 4, so you might be able to do it. The other lvls dont take that much
Do you still have to wait WAAAAY too long to get the book that let's you read faster, or did they make it available a bit earlier so it's actually worth it?
The speed-reading is now available from the school library. It actually appears on the list of books from the very beginning but is "checked out". I forget exactly when it shows up, but it's either near the end of the first semester or right at the beginning of the second, so you can get to it quite a bit sooner in Royal.
@@IWasCaptainPanda That is helpful if that's the case. I just remember how i didn't care to do the book until last, just because it didn't seem useful to waste 3 event slots to read it with the amount of books i had left for the Read All Books trophy...
Im aware its a late reply but books are kinda obsolete in Royal. After reading craft of cinema. Each session of a dvd gives instant 3 in a social stat. The only benefits of books is in the beginning where u dont have much activities unlocked or train/class freetime
Hey dude, Fresh Sub here. I have gotten a good grasp of the mechanics in P5 and P5R but I'm still new to the series. This channel has some very useful information. keep up the good work!
Haru has always been a viable party member but the changes to technical, especially when paired with Makoto who has the best debuff, make her even better.
@@armand9199 I built my Haru specifically for the new super boss and the party I was using. She can do guns well, but I like her better as a support/caster.
@@angelvasquez3991 The billiards book is for ranking up technical and comes from the sports shot. Jinbocho only sells 6 books in total: the 5 books that need to be read in order to unlock the final book that gives the hidden technical rank. I stated all of this in the video; the books from Jinbocho do provide social stats up until the last one. The one that provides Guts is first. Read it and then you can purchase the next 4. Read that and the final one becomes available.
@@jksreel There is only one secret rank and to get it you must read 6 books. The first book is the only one available at Jimbocho when you first go there to buy a book. After you read that one, 4 more will become available; read those and then finally the last book which provides the secret rank will become available.
So with these changes, how does "technical" damage now compare with "weak" damage? For example, if you have the opportunity to use a skill targeting an enemy's weakness OR to use a skill causing a technical, which would cause more damage? (Let's assume I'm at the default technical rank.)
The damage increase really is noticeable, but man can it screw you over if the enemy gets it. I've probably died more often in Royal now than I have on my first playthrough of the base game simply by having bad luck with technicals. Does increasing the rank is as tedious and time consuming as it sounds? I mean one of the selling points of Royal was that you're supposed to have more time at hand to be more flexible and now it seems like you aren't that flexible after all if you have to read multiple books multiple times.
It wont totally screw you when an enemy does it most of them dont have the ability to knock your party down due to tech damage you can also have energy shower that makoto learns and morgana as well, in my experience use the intel option to know who goes next your party member or the enemy, if its the latter make sure to heal that status change. As for increasing it not a pain and you should have time to play billards and complete it by end of 12/22 3rd semester is another option.
I don't know if you read your comments but either way I figured I should point this out When I went to play billiards for the first time I got the aforementioned stat and confidant increase, but NO TECHNICAL RANK UP. However I still got the ability to buy the expert billiards book. Either there's something i'm missing or you forgot to mention a detail on how to rank up in the video. Edit: After looking it up I can confirm you need to read the book first to be able to increase your rank
I can see Attis with his trait being op and going to over shadow Yusuke's all heat riser. But who has all debilitate and so on if i could ask? (or will there be a trait guide)
There is no AoE Debilitate, but you can teach it to your companions via the Jazz Club. As for a trait guide, my next video will be covering traits and the Velvet Room changes.
@@xemnas500 Oh yeah, forgot about that. I personally don't remember most of the tier 3 skills since you get them so late and they cost so much. Pretty sure the only one I actually used was Kasumi's.
@@RozalinGaming Thats cool. They are super expensive so I can see why one would pass over them. They are as follows Ryuji-AoE Charge Ann- AoE Concentrate Morgana- Aoe Miracle Punch Makoto- AoE Debilitate Yusuke- AoE Heat Riser Haru- AoE Makarakan and Tetrakarn Akechi- A single target Almighty spell. Not sure if Severe or Colossal damage Kasumi- A single target Heavy Damage physical attack that hits twice. She also gets Brave Step which is spell that increases critical rate for all allies for 3 turns.
I just played billiards for the first time, and I didn’t see the ‘rank up’ thing, I brought the cue and read the book. Is this normal or am I missing something?
i have no idea if this was changed for the Western release, but i only got the book to unlock Rank 5/Hidden Technical after reading all 5 of the books that Jinbocho sells
for raising the technical stat, do you have to wait for everyone to join your party or can you start leveling it up as soon as you gain access to the dart place?
Alright, I'm very confused right now. I had to pause the game for a couple days so I don't exactly remember which books i read and which i didn't. Anyways, I am at rank 3 technical and have read the book the owner gave me, but playing billiards 2 times didn't make Joker even attempt the trickshot. Then i went to check out Jinbocho and it turned out I already read the first book you need for the "hidden" rank and unlocked the next 4 when i went there, but I'm not even at rank 4 technical yet. I'm assuming I missed something major and probably stupid, but I can't figure it out
Is your proficiency max? In addition to reading the book you're given at rank 3, you must also have rank 5 proficiency to attempt the trick shot for rank 4. As for the Jinbocho books, that was my mistake. Reading all of them unlocks the hidden technical rank but you can start reading them as soon as you unlock Jinbocho; something I wasn't aware of at the time.
@@Beambamosu Do you have the Pool Cue? And also did you read the book from the sports shop? You can buy both from the Underground Mall Sports shop in Shibuya (it's in the back of the mall, make a left and go straight ahead).
@@RozalinGaming quick question is that stamp system faster or slower than the old max luck persona money farming, that took about like 30 mins to get to make money? Ps: thank you for all your replies I really appreciate it :)
@@djmax5481 It's quicker in that you don't need to make a max luck Persona anymore. You can also gain a lot of XP through it. Essentially it's a system that eliminates the need to grind. I'll be doing a video over Mementos changes, but the tldr is that with stamps you can increase the amount of XP and Yen obtained in Mementos to 200% and make it so that when you run over items while exploring Mementos you get 11 items total. These increases also apply to Ryuji's now useful Insta-kill ability.
I can’t believe i platinumed the game and didn’t even know about this. So wait, if the technical ranks are party wide, could you theoretically do this as soon as you finish the speed-reading book? Or do you need to have all of your party members be at the pool table as shown in the video for them to be effected?
hey man. just discovered your videos yesterday and they're awesome! just subscribed. keep it up! I do have a question however, I got technical rank 4 a few in-game days ago but there's no book in Jinbocho. Why is that?
Hmm, the first book should be there as soon as you unlock Jinbocho. The next ones won't appear until you have read the first one, and the final won't appear until you read all 5 previous books sold there.
I wasn't thinking of getting royal but after watching a few of your videos I'll consider getting it now. Were the dungeons made less boring to traverse? I kept getting stuck on the cruise ship because I kept falling asleep at the controller and making mistakes that killed the party.
That's not a major spoiler. Original game has been out for years now and the only way anyone who hasn't played the game would know it's the "old" final area (no longer the final area, btw) is if someone points it out. :P
As a beginner of the Persona series, do the books carry over to new game plus? Or will I be able to do the neat things that I learned from the books carry over to new game plus? I might not be able to do all the activities and social links in one single run.
It has been a while so I could be wrong on this but I don't remember them carrying over -- you have plenty of time at night though so that's the best time to read books.
@@Sleepyduo38 oh I'm not talking about optimization, just that the night time slot is the most free due to there being far fewer night confidants, so it's the best time slot for books since there is more free time. You can also read on the nights you come back from Mementos or a Palace, even the times you're forced to go via the story.
So, Billiards takes up time Darts takes up time Justice levels manually We have two new Confidants that level manually Is the extra playtime enough to still do all this and MAX all Confidants in a single playthrough (assuming you clear a Palace in as few days as possible)
It's actually 3 confidants that rank up manually since Akechi's has been completely reworked. You actually have plenty of time to max out everyone before you even get to the 3rd semester if you are careful with your time. In fact, on your first play through you can max all confidants, clear all requests, see every unique event, collect all collectables, read all books, etc; you can literally do everything except romance and friend zone each romance and two of the super bosses in one run.
@@stevenhiggins3055 Sorry. Been re-playing P4G to compare my thoughts on them so when I read Justice the first thing that popped into my mind wasn't Akechi, lol.
Sorry for how late I am to ask this, but say I put an enemy to sleep and want to maximize my technical damage. Barring the actual power of each skill, would hitting the enemy with a psy or nuclear skill do more damage than an almighty skill (like megidola)? For the sleep ailment, I know it says that psy, nuke, and "everything else" apply technical damage. Is the fact that the first two are categorized as sort of separate, more specific entities from the broader third one within the same list meant to indicate that they do something extra? Perhaps a bonus damage modifier or boost? Any insight on this?
The list is setup that way because Psy/Nuke technical off of almost everything, with the main changes coming from other damage sources. When doing technical damage, the amount of damage you will deal is determined by enemy weakness and resistances, ability damage coefficients, stats of the ability user, stats of the targeted enemy, passive abilities of the user, baton pass stage, baton pass level, and technical level. Therefore, assuming you are deciding between two abilities in which all the exact same conditions have been met the only deciding factor would be enemy weakness and resistance. Example: Psiodyne and Ziodyne both deal technical damage to an enemy suffering Forget. Assuming you are using Joker and have the respective Boost and Amp passive for both elements, and the Persona using those elements have the same magic stat, the only thing that could change which would deal more damage is whether or not the enemy was weak or resistant to one of those elements. Keep in mind that even in this scenario damage variation does exist so they may not necessarily to the exact same damage.
Thank you so much for the clear and detailed response. I want to build some sort of status applying trash mob cleaner/victory cry set for raoul but it's a bit complicated knowing what to prioritize and how to make hypothetical calculations. Luckily I believe I can understand it all very well now and know what i'd like to go with, so thank you so much again.
@@noxiebobo If you wanted to do that the best setup would be to abuse his unique sleep ability with Riot Gun since so few enemies resist/null gun damage.
Have some questions: If you hit a weakness at the sane time as antechnical, does your weakness damage boost get overridden by technical damage? Also if you have ailment boost and the ailment boost trait, do they stack and do they have any effect on skills that already have high chance of inflicting status ailments?
Weakness appears to be prioritized, but beyond that I can't be sure of the details. Skills and traits seem to stack as well (which makes the new party member a crit-hit goddess)
According to the wiki, weakness is prioritized unless the enemy is frozen. In that case, affinities with physical (null, repel, weak, etc) are temporarily overwritten and technical physical attacks will take priority
The story continues past the original game's ending. The groundwork for this is laid from the very beginning and is worked into the original game's plot so as to make it feel as if it should have been there all along. I can't really go into more detail without spoilers. As for confidant's, I mentioned this in the video but one confidant has been completely reworked, there are 2 new ones, and the others have received some changes, such as new abilities and reworked ones. Social stats are the same.
I'm currently doing Sae's palace (11/1) and I have not gotten to reading the books for jinbocho, I have already gotten the technical rank up to 4. Is it possible to get the hidden rank at this point? Granted makoto plus haru is strong enough already but I don't think I've finished any besides the first book due to focusing on the new confidants and social stats
@@MeliariMelody Actually (completely forgot about this for some reason), any stat boosts to party members that are gained via the new Jazz Club feature carry over; and any skills gained that way can be learned from the confessional in the church as soon as it becomes available.
Do I/should I wait to get a lot of party members unlocked before playing billiards? Because I feel like it might waste a time slot to play with only a few party members unlocked, if I need to come back again to do the rest
I’m in the same boat - I only have half the thieves right now, but I’m not sure if it’s worth going to billiards now or wait until I have at least Makoto or Futaba.
Can anyone confirm if the the fool perks carry on into new game plus and do we get the max persona slots from the beginning of new game plus like persona 4 and golden?
Wow this seems hard for me. It was hard for me to beat Persona 5 even on easy... and although I’m happy with the new things added to the game I have a feeling I’m most likely going to have trouble when playing Persona 5 royal. Only because I suck when it comes to persona games lol
@@jsrhedgehog9981 Not sure how it will work for the Western release but old DLC was only 10 yen / pack (roughly 10 cents / pack). Only the new DLC was normal price.
Don't you think because of it P5R is too easy? I play on merciless and only bosses are a challenge because you can't inflict ailments on them. Of course enemies also can oneshot you but the main gameplay mechanics is ambush so they never have an opportunity to do so.
Just got to this part in Royal and I only needed to read one book to get the secret technical rank. Didn't even need to have reached that level of technical already, just found it in Jinbocho.
The book to start the hidden rank I believe can be purchased before reaching technical rank 4 as you said (this was pointed out to me by a viewer), but the book that actually gives the extra technical damage options should not be available until you've read the 5 prerequisite books.
Unrelated to this specific topic, but are there more ui options or game options in general? Futaba going on and on about every single status update is worse than ocarina of time navi. Can you change how frequently they talk or do more of them chime in or what? I just get tired of hearing her on repeat for every insignificant thing.
Lacking the console, I never new the Technical deal. I remember Nuclear from the PS1 game, and I kinda thought of something like that in my fancreation document (radiation effects)
Was the 3D camera improved when exploring? Like, is the right analogue stick’s camera independent? I hope you understand what I’m asking. I don’t like my 3D camera moving along so aggressively with the left analogue stick like it did in P5.
@@sanslovertony3926 The first time you play billiards it simply unlocks technical ranks. After that you follow the steps necessary for each rank to rank up and your technical rank will raise. Technical rank can be checked in your party status screen. When you rank up it tells you what changes.
Question, does technical damage ignore resistances? ie opponent is resistant against physical but they are shocked, would they get hit as if they were neutral against physical + technical damage? I know freeze has this property but I haven't found any reliable source saying it for other aliments
Technically that isn't the final dungeon anymore. And even then, it's only a spoiler when someone provides context to it as those who haven't played the game wouldn't know any better. So who's spoiling now?
@@RozalinGaming oh Well rauols gimmick as a persona is using phantom show as a way for technical damage, so, in a way, rauol shows the potential of the technical changes they made Pretty neat, as well as joker's third tier having it's own unique niche as a statuser for the phantom thieves
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast At first it was since English and Japanese grammar are so different. But after I had studied enough to actually learn Japanese in Japanese it became much easier; and I actually think Japanese is easier than English now.
Imagine trying to make a snarky comment about spoilers, only to end up being the one that turns a non-spoiler into a spoiler by providing context that only those who have played the game would know.
The last tech upgrade is very poorly implemented. I maxed out my social stats before even buying those books and didn't intend to bother reading them. By the time I do I'll be at the end of the game. I guess it still beats spamming trips to the gym.
No it's not. P5R offers a lot of freedom in how you spend your time, and because of this freedom many ways to increase social stats and confidant ranks have been implemented, much more than is necessary specifically for cases such as yours in which the player chooses to use other means to acquire points. Just because you didn't buy the books until after you maxed your social stats using other methods doesn't make the system poorly implemented, it just means you prioritized other activities. All ranks of technical can be unlocked before the end of June if desired. If it takes a player until the end of the game then that is entirely on them, not the game.
This is a video talking about changes to Persona 5 Royal for which there are no major spoilers. I would argue that a comment about the footage used that provides context to said footage, which prior to said comment had no context and thus only people who knew about what was shown would understand where the footage is from, is more of a major spoiler than anything in the video. The footage is also no longer from the late game. :P
@@RisXchTaisu Overall. The number of Persona with no weaknesses has been increased, especially in the mid-to-late game. Technical is also required for the game's new super boss.
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This combined with the ammo change i can finally go full on gunslinger build, sweet!
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OK, now that the review embargo on P5R has lifted, I really appreciate this video more, because literally NONE of the reviews I’ve read/watched have mentioned that Tech damage got a complete overhaul, even in passing.
That 25k damage attack at 2:24 gave me heart palpitations
Thank you for the chart at 6:20 made learning technical combos much easier. Really helped when picking kits for my high level persona. The new technical system has me playing the game differently this time and I love it!
This chart is why i use haru
You really make the best persona 5 R videos of all youtube. Thanks for being so precise
Appreciate the compliment! Thank you.
The moment I heard the music in the video Morgana shouted in my head "oo you can do this"
This video and the Baton Pass one were really well done and informative! The only question I have is do the ranks for both mechanics carry over into new game plus like social stats?
No, those ranks reset every playthrough
Goro Akechi Thanks! I figured they wouldn’t carry over but I just wanted to make sure. Guess I’ll have to make them the Phantom Thieves of Pool & Darts every play through then!
@@striking_eagle723 I never really bothered ranking up the Baton Pass ranks in my playthrough lol
@@Kagetora- oh shit is that how u rank up the baton passes? By playing darts and billiards I’ll get onto that 😂
Great video. Finally an in-depth explanation to mechanics :D
This man is an absolute legend. Guides are simple, to the point, thorough, but don’t take longer than necessary. Subscribed. This is now my go to channel if I need to understand something.
thanks for the in depth explanation, havent found any other reliable places for it.
Thanks for these videos man. You're doing a better job about convincing people that this game isn't just "dlc".
Once again to Rozalin good job on another vid very informative, I abuse tech damage now in my 5th playthrough, you will want to abuse it as it will make battles easier as knocking them down is a free baton pass. ALso freezing and enemy that does not repel phys will still work even if they resist it, same with sleep. Listen to when makoto says when to use the status change on battles and she will tell you what you should use the base skills to use. example when she says an enemy is electrified melee might work but you might get shocked do not physical attack that use a physical skill as doing your attack could transfer it to you. Once you read the last book to increase tech damage via other skills. ALSo Kohryu must max out the Hierophant persona has universal law which increases tech damage by 50% as a trait. This persona is very good for technical damage as it gains psy skills.
Oh my gosh. I’m honestly upset I didn’t know about this. I use shock/burn/freeze so much and thoughts billiards was only to help increase social stats/confidants. I’m on the third semester so there’s no way I’ll be able to get through all 4 ranks.
When i Maxed out my technical rank from 3 to 4, I only needed to read the book the guy from the store gave me. I didnt need to read 5 books In order to get lvl 4, so you might be able to do it. The other lvls dont take that much
played the entire game thinking the book would just help increase my proficiency more when playing billiards lol
This was genuinely helpful catch this like.
Do you still have to wait WAAAAY too long to get the book that let's you read faster, or did they make it available a bit earlier so it's actually worth it?
The speed-reading is now available from the school library. It actually appears on the list of books from the very beginning but is "checked out". I forget exactly when it shows up, but it's either near the end of the first semester or right at the beginning of the second, so you can get to it quite a bit sooner in Royal.
@@IWasCaptainPanda That is helpful if that's the case. I just remember how i didn't care to do the book until last, just because it didn't seem useful to waste 3 event slots to read it with the amount of books i had left for the Read All Books trophy...
@@skynet0912 in case you haven't seen yet, it's available right once July begins and only takes one session to read
Im aware its a late reply but books are kinda obsolete in Royal. After reading craft of cinema. Each session of a dvd gives instant 3 in a social stat. The only benefits of books is in the beginning where u dont have much activities unlocked or train/class freetime
@@rodundertaker You should still keep books on you to read on the train or in class when Kawakami lets you slack off.
Hey dude,
Fresh Sub here. I have gotten a good grasp of the mechanics in P5 and P5R but I'm still new to the series.
This channel has some very useful information.
keep up the good work!
Thanks for the tips!
Me the first thing i see in this video:
OMG IS THE D DEMON!
Very nice guide there for the book section, but did you test it with almighty
Almighty should work but I can't remember which ailment it deals technical against since I don't use it often outside of Showtime procs.
Wow first video of someone showing Mara and not getting demonetized
This makes me realize why Raoul is given a Sleep Skill. He is specifically designed to encourage players to experiment with Technical Damage.
With most ailments having technicals in Psy skills, does that make Haru as a more viable party member?
Haru has always been a viable party member but the changes to technical, especially when paired with Makoto who has the best debuff, make her even better.
So I used haru in the original, she's better focusing on guns instead of psy imo
@@armand9199 I built my Haru specifically for the new super boss and the party I was using. She can do guns well, but I like her better as a support/caster.
Great job on the vid! The hype for P5R is real :D
I don’t understand, my technical is rank 4 but the books are not there at that bookstore, all it has is one book but to increase guts.
Only one book is available at first. You must read them in order to unlock them all.
Rozalin but the only available book that there is, is not about billiards at all. I’ll read it and see if it will unlock the others.
@@angelvasquez3991 The billiards book is for ranking up technical and comes from the sports shot. Jinbocho only sells 6 books in total: the 5 books that need to be read in order to unlock the final book that gives the hidden technical rank. I stated all of this in the video; the books from Jinbocho do provide social stats up until the last one. The one that provides Guts is first. Read it and then you can purchase the next 4. Read that and the final one becomes available.
@@jksreel There is only one secret rank and to get it you must read 6 books. The first book is the only one available at Jimbocho when you first go there to buy a book. After you read that one, 4 more will become available; read those and then finally the last book which provides the secret rank will become available.
4:01 Jesus is there anything Ren isn’t a god at?
Having one name that isn't fought over by fans
MrObamaGetDown TTV Who? Oh, you mean Akira?
basically, rank 4 technical + high freeze guns + Shinya's rank 10 skill = guaranteed down to any enemy
I was wondering, do you have to read all the books in NG+ in order to get the special technical rank, or does it transfer over?
The tech damage expansion resets on NG+, so yeah you have to reread all those books.
This plus the ammo change seems like it makes haru even better
U don’t need rank 4 technical dmg to open other types of technical dmg , just read the all books , and the hidden book technical dmg will open
Thanks for the video. It make the game much more fun with technical damage
So with these changes, how does "technical" damage now compare with "weak" damage? For example, if you have the opportunity to use a skill targeting an enemy's weakness OR to use a skill causing a technical, which would cause more damage? (Let's assume I'm at the default technical rank.)
At default rank? Weak Spot damage should do more. At rank 4 technical, that will deal more.
The damage increase really is noticeable, but man can it screw you over if the enemy gets it. I've probably died more often in Royal now than I have on my first playthrough of the base game simply by having bad luck with technicals.
Does increasing the rank is as tedious and time consuming as it sounds? I mean one of the selling points of Royal was that you're supposed to have more time at hand to be more flexible and now it seems like you aren't that flexible after all if you have to read multiple books multiple times.
It wont totally screw you when an enemy does it most of them dont have the ability to knock your party down due to tech damage you can also have energy shower that makoto learns and morgana as well, in my experience use the intel option to know who goes next your party member or the enemy, if its the latter make sure to heal that status change. As for increasing it not a pain and you should have time to play billards and complete it by end of 12/22 3rd semester is another option.
I don't know if you read your comments but either way I figured I should point this out
When I went to play billiards for the first time I got the aforementioned stat and confidant increase, but NO TECHNICAL RANK UP. However I still got the ability to buy the expert billiards book. Either there's something i'm missing or you forgot to mention a detail on how to rank up in the video.
Edit: After looking it up I can confirm you need to read the book first to be able to increase your rank
The first time you go you simply unlock technical ranks, which start at rank 1. I may not have communicated this well in the video.
I can see Attis with his trait being op and going to over shadow Yusuke's all heat riser. But who has all debilitate and so on if i could ask? (or will there be a trait guide)
There is no AoE Debilitate, but you can teach it to your companions via the Jazz Club. As for a trait guide, my next video will be covering traits and the Velvet Room changes.
Thanks for the guides and infos. Atleast royal will change my normal playstyle too.
@@RozalinGaming Thats not true. Makoto gets an AoE Debilitate as her Tier 3 Persona skill.
@@xemnas500 Oh yeah, forgot about that. I personally don't remember most of the tier 3 skills since you get them so late and they cost so much. Pretty sure the only one I actually used was Kasumi's.
@@RozalinGaming Thats cool. They are super expensive so I can see why one would pass over them. They are as follows
Ryuji-AoE Charge
Ann- AoE Concentrate
Morgana- Aoe Miracle Punch
Makoto- AoE Debilitate
Yusuke- AoE Heat Riser
Haru- AoE Makarakan and Tetrakarn
Akechi- A single target Almighty spell. Not sure if Severe or Colossal damage
Kasumi- A single target Heavy Damage physical attack that hits twice.
She also gets Brave Step which is spell that increases critical rate for all allies for 3 turns.
Really wish I saw this video earlier. I'm on shido palace
I just played billiards for the first time, and I didn’t see the ‘rank up’ thing, I brought the cue and read the book. Is this normal or am I missing something?
i have no idea if this was changed for the Western release, but i only got the book to unlock Rank 5/Hidden Technical after reading all 5 of the books that Jinbocho sells
Is it worth doing that or rank 4 is already enough?
for raising the technical stat, do you have to wait for everyone to join your party or can you start leveling it up as soon as you gain access to the dart place?
You can start whenever you want.
One question, can concentrate or charge be cancelled? Maybe by knockdown, allies all out or special ailment?
Does baton pass and technical damage boost carry over to ng+?
They do not.
Rozalin oof
Alright, I'm very confused right now. I had to pause the game for a couple days so I don't exactly remember which books i read and which i didn't.
Anyways, I am at rank 3 technical and have read the book the owner gave me, but playing billiards 2 times didn't make Joker even attempt the trickshot. Then i went to check out Jinbocho and it turned out I already read the first book you need for the "hidden" rank and unlocked the next 4 when i went there, but I'm not even at rank 4 technical yet.
I'm assuming I missed something major and probably stupid, but I can't figure it out
Is your proficiency max? In addition to reading the book you're given at rank 3, you must also have rank 5 proficiency to attempt the trick shot for rank 4.
As for the Jinbocho books, that was my mistake. Reading all of them unlocks the hidden technical rank but you can start reading them as soon as you unlock Jinbocho; something I wasn't aware of at the time.
@@RozalinGaming Yeah my proficiency is maxed. Weird, i guess i'll just save before and try again from time to time
@@Beambamosu Do you have the Pool Cue? And also did you read the book from the sports shop? You can buy both from the Underground Mall Sports shop in Shibuya (it's in the back of the mall, make a left and go straight ahead).
9 million yen hehehe good to see some of the olds strats still work even if we have to put in a bit more work
All of my money was gained via the new stamp system in Mementos.
@@RozalinGaming quick question is that stamp system faster or slower than the old max luck persona money farming, that took about like 30 mins to get to make money?
Ps: thank you for all your replies I really appreciate it :)
@@djmax5481 It's quicker in that you don't need to make a max luck Persona anymore. You can also gain a lot of XP through it. Essentially it's a system that eliminates the need to grind.
I'll be doing a video over Mementos changes, but the tldr is that with stamps you can increase the amount of XP and Yen obtained in Mementos to 200% and make it so that when you run over items while exploring Mementos you get 11 items total. These increases also apply to Ryuji's now useful Insta-kill ability.
I can’t believe i platinumed the game and didn’t even know about this.
So wait, if the technical ranks are party wide, could you theoretically do this as soon as you finish the speed-reading book? Or do you need to have all of your party members be at the pool table as shown in the video for them to be effected?
You don't need everyone to join to do this. Anyone not in your party will still get the technical buffs when they join.
hey man. just discovered your videos yesterday and they're awesome! just subscribed. keep it up! I do have a question however, I got technical rank 4 a few in-game days ago but there's no book in Jinbocho. Why is that?
Hmm, the first book should be there as soon as you unlock Jinbocho. The next ones won't appear until you have read the first one, and the final won't appear until you read all 5 previous books sold there.
so I am going to make a nice video explaining some changes. what does this video need for youtube? the two persona that look like genitalia!
How did you get that Multi Target Heat Riser Persona?
Attis with his Persona trait.
Rozalin so, how did you build him?
@@jackbuildersmasher6346 I fused an Attis and then used skill cards to remove his weaknesses.
Rozalin thanks. Starting NG+ and hoping to get a good Persona group
I wasn't thinking of getting royal but after watching a few of your videos I'll consider getting it now. Were the dungeons made less boring to traverse? I kept getting stuck on the cruise ship because I kept falling asleep at the controller and making mistakes that killed the party.
Uh, if you found the dungeons boring in the original then this game isn't for you.
Great video.
But why, if there are no major spoilers, are you playing in
The final area?
That's not a major spoiler. Original game has been out for years now and the only way anyone who hasn't played the game would know it's the "old" final area (no longer the final area, btw) is if someone points it out. :P
As a beginner of the Persona series, do the books carry over to new game plus? Or will I be able to do the neat things that I learned from the books carry over to new game plus? I might not be able to do all the activities and social links in one single run.
It has been a while so I could be wrong on this but I don't remember them carrying over -- you have plenty of time at night though so that's the best time to read books.
@@RozalinGaming sadly I don’t know how to be the most optimal for my first run, that’s why I was asking
@@Sleepyduo38 oh I'm not talking about optimization, just that the night time slot is the most free due to there being far fewer night confidants, so it's the best time slot for books since there is more free time. You can also read on the nights you come back from Mementos or a Palace, even the times you're forced to go via the story.
I have this preordered but I wont play it till I achieve platinum in the original
I havent preordered it and I refuse to until I play the original
So, Billiards takes up time
Darts takes up time
Justice levels manually
We have two new Confidants that level manually
Is the extra playtime enough to still do all this and MAX all Confidants in a single playthrough (assuming you clear a Palace in as few days as possible)
It's actually 3 confidants that rank up manually since Akechi's has been completely reworked.
You actually have plenty of time to max out everyone before you even get to the 3rd semester if you are careful with your time. In fact, on your first play through you can max all confidants, clear all requests, see every unique event, collect all collectables, read all books, etc; you can literally do everything except romance and friend zone each romance and two of the super bosses in one run.
@@RozalinGaming I said two *new* Confidants, and already had mentioned Justice before that.
But thanks for the info.
@@stevenhiggins3055 Sorry. Been re-playing P4G to compare my thoughts on them so when I read Justice the first thing that popped into my mind wasn't Akechi, lol.
Sorry for how late I am to ask this, but say I put an enemy to sleep and want to maximize my technical damage. Barring the actual power of each skill, would hitting the enemy with a psy or nuclear skill do more damage than an almighty skill (like megidola)? For the sleep ailment, I know it says that psy, nuke, and "everything else" apply technical damage. Is the fact that the first two are categorized as sort of separate, more specific entities from the broader third one within the same list meant to indicate that they do something extra? Perhaps a bonus damage modifier or boost? Any insight on this?
The list is setup that way because Psy/Nuke technical off of almost everything, with the main changes coming from other damage sources. When doing technical damage, the amount of damage you will deal is determined by enemy weakness and resistances, ability damage coefficients, stats of the ability user, stats of the targeted enemy, passive abilities of the user, baton pass stage, baton pass level, and technical level.
Therefore, assuming you are deciding between two abilities in which all the exact same conditions have been met the only deciding factor would be enemy weakness and resistance. Example: Psiodyne and Ziodyne both deal technical damage to an enemy suffering Forget. Assuming you are using Joker and have the respective Boost and Amp passive for both elements, and the Persona using those elements have the same magic stat, the only thing that could change which would deal more damage is whether or not the enemy was weak or resistant to one of those elements. Keep in mind that even in this scenario damage variation does exist so they may not necessarily to the exact same damage.
Thank you so much for the clear and detailed response. I want to build some sort of status applying trash mob cleaner/victory cry set for raoul but it's a bit complicated knowing what to prioritize and how to make hypothetical calculations. Luckily I believe I can understand it all very well now and know what i'd like to go with, so thank you so much again.
@@noxiebobo If you wanted to do that the best setup would be to abuse his unique sleep ability with Riot Gun since so few enemies resist/null gun damage.
Have some questions: If you hit a weakness at the sane time as antechnical, does your weakness damage boost get overridden by technical damage? Also if you have ailment boost and the ailment boost trait, do they stack and do they have any effect on skills that already have high chance of inflicting status ailments?
Weakness appears to be prioritized, but beyond that I can't be sure of the details. Skills and traits seem to stack as well (which makes the new party member a crit-hit goddess)
According to the wiki, weakness is prioritized unless the enemy is frozen. In that case, affinities with physical (null, repel, weak, etc) are temporarily overwritten and technical physical attacks will take priority
Dont mimd the change in the font size of the text, hardly notice it.
Entertaining and informative video, my question is how the story will be changed and how confidants and social stats will change
The story continues past the original game's ending. The groundwork for this is laid from the very beginning and is worked into the original game's plot so as to make it feel as if it should have been there all along. I can't really go into more detail without spoilers.
As for confidant's, I mentioned this in the video but one confidant has been completely reworked, there are 2 new ones, and the others have received some changes, such as new abilities and reworked ones.
Social stats are the same.
I'm currently doing Sae's palace (11/1) and I have not gotten to reading the books for jinbocho, I have already gotten the technical rank up to 4. Is it possible to get the hidden rank at this point? Granted makoto plus haru is strong enough already but I don't think I've finished any besides the first book due to focusing on the new confidants and social stats
You should have time.
@@RozalinGaming yup, kawakami hooked it up in class. Thanks!
is it worth just focussing on dizzy/ sleep seeing as everything gets technical damage on those ailments?
I use sleep from time to time but never really used Dizzy.
I have a question. Does this and Baton Pass ranks transfer over to new game plus like Social Stats?
Sadly, no.
Rozalin What exactly does transfer then? Just the same as the base game?
@@MeliariMelody Yeah.
Rozalin That’s quite disappointing
@@MeliariMelody Actually (completely forgot about this for some reason), any stat boosts to party members that are gained via the new Jazz Club feature carry over; and any skills gained that way can be learned from the confessional in the church as soon as it becomes available.
Do I/should I wait to get a lot of party members unlocked before playing billiards? Because I feel like it might waste a time slot to play with only a few party members unlocked, if I need to come back again to do the rest
I’m in the same boat - I only have half the thieves right now, but I’m not sure if it’s worth going to billiards now or wait until I have at least Makoto or Futaba.
Technical rank is party wide so even members not in your party yet will benefit once they join.
Technical rank is party wide so even members not in your party yet will benefit once they join.
Rozalin thank you!
Can anyone confirm if the the fool perks carry on into new game plus and do we get the max persona slots from the beginning of new game plus like persona 4 and golden?
Nope, no Fool/slot carryover.
Wow this seems hard for me. It was hard for me to beat Persona 5 even on easy... and although I’m happy with the new things added to the game I have a feeling I’m most likely going to have trouble when playing Persona 5 royal. Only because I suck when it comes to persona games lol
Is there any visual indication of your technical rank like there is for batton pass rank
On the screen where you can see all of your party members there is a graphic that tells you your technical rank.
What's the title of the last book available at Jinbocho?
I don't know the official English title but you have to read all of the books that end up being sold at Jinbocho.
This might have been answered already but do these carry over to ng+.
Sadly they do not.
Is there a transfer system between base Persona 5 and Royal? I know P3 had something like that, not sure about P4 though
If you're talking about save data, no. Too many changes and additions for that.
I don't know where the sauce is, but if you bought the DLC or Costume bundles for P5, they should be availible for P5R for a measily 5 extra dollars.
@@jsrhedgehog9981 Not sure how it will work for the Western release but old DLC was only 10 yen / pack (roughly 10 cents / pack). Only the new DLC was normal price.
@@jsrhedgehog9981 I thought I read on the website that it came free with the game
@@ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 Free as in the base game ($60) or "free" as in bundled with the special edition ($100)?
Can the other 4 books be sped up to 2 reads
If you've read the speed reading book, yes.
Ok thanks, I am starting the game tomorrow and I have been watching ur vids all the time on repeat :)
is it stackable with weakness ?
Would you need to be in new game+ to create satanael?
Yes. Satanael is still NG+ only.
It's like priming and detonating and enemy in ME.
M
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@@Ramsey276one Mass Effect. It's abbreviated ME, right?
15awesomehighfive but
Me
Is also a word...
Does that apply to all games?
@@Ramsey276one It's in capital letters, so it's supposed to be taken as an abbreviation, not a word.
15awesomehighfive AssCreed>AC
Basically
MassEff>ME
See?
Don't you think because of it P5R is too easy? I play on merciless and only bosses are a challenge because you can't inflict ailments on them. Of course enemies also can oneshot you but the main gameplay mechanics is ambush so they never have an opportunity to do so.
I think the difficulty level is fine. It rewards smart play and punishes stupid mistakes.
Just got to this part in Royal and I only needed to read one book to get the secret technical rank. Didn't even need to have reached that level of technical already, just found it in Jinbocho.
The book to start the hidden rank I believe can be purchased before reaching technical rank 4 as you said (this was pointed out to me by a viewer), but the book that actually gives the extra technical damage options should not be available until you've read the 5 prerequisite books.
We Tech those...
What are the english names sorry
Of the books? I'm not sure but it doesn't actually matter since you need to read all 6 that end up being sold at the bookstore in Jinbocho.
@@RozalinGaming oh sick man thanks!
Unrelated to this specific topic, but are there more ui options or game options in general? Futaba going on and on about every single status update is worse than ocarina of time navi. Can you change how frequently they talk or do more of them chime in or what? I just get tired of hearing her on repeat for every insignificant thing.
There are no changes like those in Royal.
@@RozalinGaming How unfortunate
Should you wait to have every party member unlocked before playing billiards?
Nah. Technical is a party-wide rank so as soon as other members join they will get the benefits as well.
Lacking the console, I never new the Technical deal.
I remember Nuclear from the PS1 game, and I kinda thought of something like that in my fancreation document (radiation effects)
Was the 3D camera improved when exploring? Like, is the right analogue stick’s camera independent? I hope you understand what I’m asking. I don’t like my 3D camera moving along so aggressively with the left analogue stick like it did in P5.
Camera controls are the same as with the original.
Not only is technical damage fun but it’s fucking terrible on a certain boss
How do you check this stat?
Which stat?
Rozalin the technical ranks
@@sanslovertony3926 The game tells you what each rank provides.
Rozalin the first time I played billiards, it said nothing about technical ranks tho
@@sanslovertony3926 The first time you play billiards it simply unlocks technical ranks. After that you follow the steps necessary for each rank to rank up and your technical rank will raise. Technical rank can be checked in your party status screen. When you rank up it tells you what changes.
Question, does technical damage ignore resistances? ie opponent is resistant against physical but they are shocked, would they get hit as if they were neutral against physical + technical damage? I know freeze has this property but I haven't found any reliable source saying it for other aliments
Only Freeze does.
> No major spoilers
> Show final boss dungeon
😂😂🤨
Technically that isn't the final dungeon anymore. And even then, it's only a spoiler when someone provides context to it as those who haven't played the game wouldn't know any better. So who's spoiling now?
Pre release rauol impressions
Ugh, phantom show is a useless move, technicals don't even do much
After this video
MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I didn't purchase the DLC so I can't speak for Raoul.
@@RozalinGaming oh
Well rauols gimmick as a persona is using phantom show as a way for technical damage, so, in a way, rauol shows the potential of the technical changes they made
Pretty neat, as well as joker's third tier having it's own unique niche as a statuser for the phantom thieves
I think it’s stupid that the main characters 3rd awakening is dlc
Is Japanese your first language?
2nd language.
@@RozalinGaming was it hard to learn?
@@AverageEggmonEnthusiast At first it was since English and Japanese grammar are so different. But after I had studied enough to actually learn Japanese in Japanese it became much easier; and I actually think Japanese is easier than English now.
"No major spoilers"
Shows the final Mementos zone in the first second
Imagine trying to make a snarky comment about spoilers, only to end up being the one that turns a non-spoiler into a spoiler by providing context that only those who have played the game would know.
How’d you get much yen
One of the new additions lets you add modifiers to Mementos gains such as money and xp. I prioritized money.
Rozalin pretty epic
00:05 is that a pennis? 😂
The last tech upgrade is very poorly implemented. I maxed out my social stats before even buying those books and didn't intend to bother reading them. By the time I do I'll be at the end of the game. I guess it still beats spamming trips to the gym.
No it's not. P5R offers a lot of freedom in how you spend your time, and because of this freedom many ways to increase social stats and confidant ranks have been implemented, much more than is necessary specifically for cases such as yours in which the player chooses to use other means to acquire points. Just because you didn't buy the books until after you maxed your social stats using other methods doesn't make the system poorly implemented, it just means you prioritized other activities. All ranks of technical can be unlocked before the end of June if desired. If it takes a player until the end of the game then that is entirely on them, not the game.
The beginning of the video
Me:cool technical stuff
The screen: little d and big D
Me: OwO
"No Major Spoiler" First footage is from end game area xD
Not only is the footage used not from an end-game area for P5R, even if it was, it wouldn't be a "major" spoiler.
You said no major spoilers but then decided to make all your footage of the late game?
This is a video talking about changes to Persona 5 Royal for which there are no major spoilers.
I would argue that a comment about the footage used that provides context to said footage, which prior to said comment had no context and thus only people who knew about what was shown would understand where the footage is from, is more of a major spoiler than anything in the video.
The footage is also no longer from the late game. :P
Ngl this is kinda wack Ima stick with my weak points lmao
Weak spot strategies fall apart in the later half of Royal due to balance changes. You're going to have to learn to use Technical.
Rozalin is this overall or just on higher difficulties? (Aka above normal?)
@@RisXchTaisu Overall. The number of Persona with no weaknesses has been increased, especially in the mid-to-late game. Technical is also required for the game's new super boss.
This guy probably plays on Normal
@@Yarida929 Me? I did a full run on Normal and a full run on Challenge.
I wish that they got rid of power intuition, but they most likely did not, that was my platinum killer