@@missperfectluxury7630 A good tip is whenever you talk about something, it's better to talk till the conclusion of it. Even if whatever you say is not that interesting. Makes people feel they didn't waste their time listening to you.
Dexter E i agree but i run out of things to talk about especially having to be in a stream every single day by yourself he literally talks to himself lol while chat listens and he comes up with jokes really fast , I wonder if he has ADHD
I concur. I spend an eternity on the character creation screen mulling over every little detail. That's even when I know I can change most of it later. I can barely stand to sit there with myself let alone watch a recording of it afterward.
Asmon is killing it man I have never played wow or FF and I have watched every one of the FF episodes just because it is something new for him and the audience .... Dude is not boring he is pretty funny and doesn't take himself serious
It’s a really good thing that he also plays the game off stream too. There’s still a couple of people that’ll follow him around but when the camera’s off the masses just lose all interest.
@@continuallyblessed44 he’s already mentioned it doesn’t interest him, but then again he thinks cat girls are OK now so we’ll see how his opinion changes lol
@@Cheezdealer are you hating on catgirls I know this is not the ideal spot to debate but I would say FF14 catgirls are much less weeby and more anthropomorphic than wows druids or vulpeera or Tauren imho
I do feel that you, Asmon, does a fantastic job in playing/entertaining his audience. I think he's more natural and comfortable. It shows. Thanks Asmon for all your streaming/content!
I agree. I remember seeing his videos some number of years ago and feeling like it was full of anger and not entertaining for me to watch. Started watching again and it is actually enjoyable.
They'll try to follow him in real life with a camera and come up to talk to him like he knows who they are. Zero self awareness and thirst for attention.
Asmongold - "I like to speak very clearly whenever I stream because I know there are international people who watch me" - THANK YOU. Meanwhile I listen to Matt from bellular and I'm like: WHAT?
I just think it’s really cool that people choose to give this huge game a chance ESPECIALLY from the beginning and isn’t skipping anything. I pretty much appreciate it when people enjoy the game I’ve been playing for 8 years lol. Plus I only just heard of you 5 days ago because of UA-cam recommendations and you’re pretty fun so keep up the good work.
Man I could 100% see myself as a kid doing this to a streamer I liked to watch. Kids do cringe shit. The crazy part of this is that I'm pretty sure many of those were adults. Considering their expensive/hard to farm mounts... Surely a good portion of them are full grown adults stalking a streamer for hours on end...
You said you enjoy people enjoying the game so I’ll tell you the story of my weekend. I had a hellish time installing ffXIV. It wouldn’t download for shit so I bought world renown Nord VPN and after changing my location to the next city over it finally downloaded with issue (YAY!) so I made my character and started the free trial on a non exp boost server because I’m a pleb (or a, whaddya call it, a sprout?) and I went forward to see what the game is. And I was hooked by hour 2, I don’t think I’ve spent this much time on a game since the Witcher 3. I quite literally spent the WHOLE weekend sitting on my ass playing video games like back when I had time to do that kinda stuff, it was incredible. I LOVE the one character can be every class and job, that’s awesome as hell, little confused by the crafting system but I’m getting there. The community is so far so good to new people. I got into the Titan fight with 2 other sprouts and a veteran and the vet just let us fail so we could enjoy our first time failing and learning. I’ve never had a vet do that before during a group finder instance, it was great. I guess I’m on some infamous erp server (Mateus I think) but haven’t really seen anything so maybe I’m blind or it’s isolated, nonetheless I hope it doesn’t screw me over in the future because I don’t want to have to start over or server swap XD. Anyway, end stor, but I’m taken by surprise by this game and thought maybe you would enjoy some random dudes excitement. Have a good one!
@@Cool3reeze ffxiv a huge ass game. Biggest issue I feel like people run into is literally that in itself. Realm Reborn as itself is “ok” but as time went on it really was just the groundwork for future expansions. Heavensward really skyrocketed FFXIV in terms of popularity, story, gameplay, etc. Stormblood was pretty great tho many will say they liked Heavensward more which is fair; the current ShadowBringers is most people’s favorite because of how long of a journey it’s been from the beginning up till here where it’s the huge climax. The next/“last” expansion EndWalker will mark the end of the story that everyone’s been following since Realm Reborn and 1.0, cannot wait to see how it finally ends
I was watching him watch this video and noticed that most of the time he is kinda looking at it clueless what josh is talking about , and tbh streaming is kinda like a personality thing that u just HAVE to have in order to get any level of success , compared to singing , you have to be born with a good voice so u can sing good , you eater have it or u don't . I felt josh is kinda giving him too much credit for something he does instinctively and subconsciously (very well ofc) rather than something he is constantly think about like a very well trained fighter or actor that had to devote decades to hone his craft and improve his competence to successfully execute his performance/ task at hand
@@satamoto6488 Well im sure he improved the "art" of streaming a lot, coming from someone who watched his videos back in 2015/2016 and watched some of the early streams. He has said before he prioritizes a good stream over anything.
@@dscarmo yes that is true as the same way a singer can improve his singing , but his voice needs to be there in the first place like asmongolds personality and talent needs to be there , his streams are not like a car assembly line where u have precise measurements and defined guide lines of producing working parts it's kinda .. yeah just there ...
Now we need Josh to react to Asmon react to Josh commentating Asmon. P.S I love the love for Asmon when he went to FFXIV. I knew this would be a huge thing but this is bonkers. MMO players gotta stick together.
If every game is good, then everyone wins. And if a game stops being good, people should leave. Then the game will either make improvements to become good or keep losing players to other games that do things right. The only people who should ever be in a place to lose should be the publishers. Never the players.
Love asmon, But his chat is full of people who find more enjoyment outa commenting on his person than enjoying the content or respecting a streamer they enjoy. Imagine finding enjoyment out of saying the same jokes everyday in chat... Like that's a ritual in your day. Imagine!...
That's not asmongolds viewers, that's just average young people now unfortunately... Once these clowns are old enough to be in positions of power /authority we are all screwed. We are already seeing It with the panzy snowflake pc society 😂
Asmon's chat just proves the 7 second thing lol "Is this guy gonna repeat the same thing 15 times?" "This guy is stunlocked on the same point" Uh... It's a 15 minute video on a subject. He's talking about that subject. Lmao what
yes but to be entirely fair if your 15 minute long video has you repeating the same things 10, then you could communicate the same information in a fraction of that time. So maybe the video shouldn't be 15 minutes long to begin with.
@@neronthetyrant it wasn't even that bad. I tought one time towards the end that yeah we got it but that's it. He introdused the same point from multiple angles so ofcourse it's going to lead at the end of the point into the same conclusion. Tru he didn't neccesarily have to say the point after every piece of info supporting it but if he have been a teacher it propably comes from there so people would better remember atleast the main point of it if not the reasons for it. But to say it again, it wasn't exhausting to watch and if it was just because of that.. then it explains why so much garpage is on the top of the yt.
Not really, the video wasn't very good and was super repetitive. It was like he had content for a 2 minute video and wanted to make it 15 just because.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 you're misconstrued about my point, the video wasn't horrible, but he did repeat the same point 10 or so times in the video. It's not *the worst thing ever*, but it feels like a waste of time when you watch 4 minutes worth of content stretched so thin. Nothing wrong with a 4 minute video. I think shorter videos that get to the point are of much higher quality than this, and I think most people agree with this.
In case you haven’t seen some of his other videos, he’s an ex teacher and I assume he’s used to this style of lecture. It’s a good engaging style especially when you need to reiterate a lot
He has before, but it is not his main MMO, it is (likely) Runescape (both OSRS and RS3). He has a few videos on his channel about them and it's clear he very much loves those games.
About engaging with chat, this is why I find a new appreciation for games that allow streamers to pause during a cutscene. This allows the streamer to pause the game and engage with chat without missing the timing - especially when they wanna share a joke, because the secret to a good joke is timing. By having pause-able cutscenes, the streamers can engage with chat by pausing and then come back to the scene without missing much.
Good point. I don’t want anything cutting into my fun while playing games so new respect. I like watching Asmongold cause he says the stuff I say the whole time I am playing and everyone in the living room thinks I’m crazy
That's explains why his eyebrows move this much. If his mouth doesn't move, his eyebrows do so he keep us entertained. 7 seconds attention problem fixed!
Asmongold destroyed that dude that said "same shirt" "Same joke" This video goes to show that stream snipers have a low attention span probably from looking back and forth between screens and if not that then in general being more focused on getting a reaction out of people rather than living your life for yourself. Be a leader not a follower
Well you get my point then. One sperg sees the first guy say it and then everyone else hive minds to encourage it. It's actually sad. It's like watching the jock at your school convince the rest of the class that they should harass you because they feel like it and the class goes along with it without thinking about the fact that the person they're harassing is just as human as you are. But yeah I agree I try not to pay attention to chat in general that might have been why I didn't notice everyone was doing it
@@DesteryandScorger twitch chat has been really obnoxious lately, not just asmons, its every big streamers chat. Its a bunch of backseating, missusing emotes and hatewatching, complete trash.
@@PilhasGaming True bruther PREACH! Backseat gaming definitely became popular now that metagaming is so much more mainstream because everyone wants to be the best player in the world. Tbh were probably gonne have a lot of work fields in America in dire need as it's become the average Americans dream to be a streamer/content creator (whether its youtube twitch tiktok Instagram or snapchat). Feelsbadman
"You know how I know I'm not talking about anyone you know? Because these people are so boring nobody watches them" Wow I cant believe asmon talked about me on stream Pog
"Yeah, there can be nothing and I can just TALK." Fun fact, the Japanese streaming community actually has a term for this: Zatsudan. It means something like "Talk Stream". They literally open up a stream and just talk to chat for hours and read Super Chats. It's amazing. I bet Asmon can do something like that. Like, here's a 2 hour free talk block where he just talks to chat.
Drama! Joy! Discovery! Controversy! More drama! Catgirl petting! Human Warrior! Of course his FFXIV streams are the hottest shit right now. It's the perfect storm.
Not really, I genuinely believe that it’s not hard for Zack to be Asmongold. It wouldn’t be so successful and funny otherwise, beside some stuff i feel like it’s not really an act. He’s been like this for years, the only burden he has is not to change his true personality. Which we all know is something that won’t ever change for Zack.
@@cyrielroelofs well he has said that hes not like that off stream. On stream he is much more energetic cause he tries to be entertaining. But i do think hes expanding a part of himself instead of faking it.
Being a god tier yt/twitch streamer or something in between also comes with shietty perks and you have to balance the scales if you want to be long term successful, either you give 100% of you all the time, like paying attention to the chat, to the game details simultaneously and entertain by being super creative in real time and suffer from a fast burnout, a very few can do it , but not most, or you do like Asmon does, which is a more relaxed way of interaction with his audience and playing the game, I don't think his seeking to be entertaining all the time to be honest, but I think he found his balance through out the years.
@@cattysplat I highly doubt that’s because he constantly plays a character, he really doesn’t need to think about his actions on stream. It’s definitely part of him, and being burned out of streaming would most likely have happened even if he was truly himself all the time. It pretty much happens when you literally sit in your room behind a pc everyday, a human being can’t keep that up for months without taking breaks.
Yeah I think its true, the biggest thing that he improved is how clearly and loudly he speaks, I remember his old streams and videos where he just quietly mumbles stuff, it had no energy, I felt like sleeping, and its this way with many streamers, it reduces the mentioned attentions spam from 7 seconds to like 2 when you see someone talking like he was on sedatives lol
Ive tried about 7 times to play this. Its a great game with some really cool elements and attention to detail, but just not for me. Glad youre enjoying it.
What he said about people who don't know much about English is very true. I'm a beginner in English, I barely know how to write, so I still use google translate, and even as a beginner I can understand almost everything he says and that's really good, it helps me learn English with fun.
This made me appreciate streamers even more, thank you for sharing. However, I am highly sceptic of that seven second attention span. Streamers loose viewers if they don't put out a personal ping every seven seconds? Has this been actually tested? I mean, I get it. No one wants to watch someone just play the game without commentary - and Asmons reactions to ongoing cutscenes and dialoge do make everything much more fun and engaging. However, I find it hard to believe that one can *never* take the back seat during for example a suspenseful cutscene. People tune in for three hour long podcasts of two people just talking to each other off script these days. People can likely endure a minute of suspenseful silence if that's what the game is intending at that moment.
Very late reply, but it's important to keep in mind that the "average attention span" refers to the collective attention span of everyone watching. One person can have one of several hundred seconds, the other for less than 7 seconds. And while studies have been pretty divided on the actual value itself, it has without a doubt lowered significantly in the past few years. Permanent interconnectivity, multiple monitor setups, mobile phones having advanced to an insane stage etc etc etc. The major con of convenience is that it becomes detrimental to our very evolution as a human species, but we're still and will continue to make everything as convenient as possible. But yeah, whether it's 7 seconds or 20 seconds or whatever, I think the point still stands.
I think what draws me is that your a real person and don't cater to any one person and you tell what you like and dislike about games and what could be better just keep up the good work all the best
I would imagine the reason Kids want to be a UA-camr is because they for the most part see Creative Freedom, not of just the Gaming Space of youtube but just being yourself having fun and making money doing it rather than going to college, staying up all night studying just to get a job you only have for the money.
Mostly for young kids probably. Where I went for high school everyone either wanted to be a doctor or an engineer. i.e. have a high paying job. Either way youtube is a super saturated and unreliable employment sector.
But because it's a brand new profession, it's not completely clear the bad side about this job yet. Every profession has a good and bad side, youtuber is not free of it.
I would love to get back into this game on PS but I deactivated my account to take a break couple of months ago now Im catching hell trying to reactivating it because of the terrible password safety system.
Asmon - you bring fun and entertainment to the game. Didn't watch you much during my WOW days, but find your observations spot on for FFXIV. Thank you for the fun!
12:09 that's why the most popular genres on twitch are multiplayer shooters and mobas. Where all the attention is just on the gameplay cause there's no story, and even on mmo people mostly watch raids and pvp.
i try and catch your streams as much as possible but sometimes its easier for me on youtube in the background, also with other streamers even if they arent super entertaining all the time, they give info on how to get better that keeps me coming but i suppose streamers do need a hook however.
This is one of the reasons why most Veteran FFXIV streamers never stream their MSQ progression. You know that they're are really into the game and there's some good in that but also a sacrifices they make to lose out on potential subs.
yeah, having friends or others to communicate with i feel is helpful in the early stages of the game. when I first tried out this game, I dropped it when I got to Gridania (was the third hub city I went to at the time, very early), with friends I made it to the end of shadowbringers, and god I am glad, shit got so good so quick as far as I am concerned. except fuck the waking sands.
When I was a teacher in China, about 80% of the boys in my classes said they want to be a professional streamer. 60% of the girls said the same. A handful of kids wanted to work in medicine or business or whatever (these were kids aged 13-19). I find that as tech develops, more students are seeking tech related futures, even in content creation.
u sure it's not because all these kids see the successful streamers raking in hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars just from playing video games for hours on end? so they are like: damn, i want to get rich playing video games all day too!
@@Asiankido Yeah, I mean literally majority of kids these days are exposed to internet and any form of social media around 7 - 10 years old, if not earlier. If all they see from a young age are online entertainers and successful streamers, its obvious they will be inspired by it and want to do it.
Some People in chat are so rude for no reason. Just because you already know about the topic of the video, doesn't mean EVERYONE have the same knowledge. Let the guy finish his argument.
This plagues League of legends streamers. That game is extremely difficult to balance quality gameplay and engagement. Unless they are super smurfing, there is very little engagement. On the plus side, most of the viewers are going there for the gameplay (maybe except tyler1, who has probably found the best balance)
The game is usually the focus if you're a good player. I watch a lot of Dota streamers and most of the time they just focus on the game and comment on what's happening or explain their train of thought while making some jokes here and there. Most of the time people watch moba streamers because they're good so they want to see them popping off rather than interacting with chat. That's why so many people watch faker even though they don't speak Korean.
LoL is one of the exceptions, people prefer gameplay over interaction. Faker doesn't even speak English and his stream is hugely popular in the west because he's just that good.
Before it was "I wanna be a youtuber" it was "I wanna be a movie star/music star/[insert celebrity type here]" This isn't really a change, it's just a sort of a horizontal shift. It's essentially the same thing, it's just a different time/culture's version of that thing.
I watch asmon because he has a lot of the same opinions as I do about gaming and whenever that happens with a streamer or youtuber it instantly makes you enjoy watching them play a game over someone else play the same game right.
Id love to see asmon and Josh sit down and talk about the state of MMOs, asmon is way more intelligent than we all give him credit for and I think the discourse between these two would be awesome
This guy made streaming sound hard. Maybe when I finally break into the Twitch scene I'll be number 1 in speedrunning, where the audience is simply there to spectate and they know what to expect.
I wish the UA-camrs that make "how to" videos for quests and mob kills would apply some of this same advice. I prefer some explanatory voice over or text. I want a good look at the map and local terrain when the mob is hard to find. I don't need a tour of the public transportation system from zone to zone. I don't need to watch every second of every repetitive fight. Most of all, don't add a music track just because it suits your personal tastes. Display the maps, quest objectives, loot, and rewards for longer than a split second so I have time to hit the pause.
That thing about the audience is why my favorite Twitch streamer plays a mobile game. He's highly entertaining, and it's partly because he can spare the attention to BE entertaining. Someone like Asmongold who can play an intense game and still be entertaining is a god.
Hey Asmongold, not sure if you look at these comments but as a friendly piece of advice from an older player to a new one (especially on patch days) the X key on the keyboard will make all player names disappear for as long as you hold it. It really helps for clicking on quest givers and npcs if there are too many players around. ^^ Hope you continue to enjoy the game!
You know we are here for the streamer and not the game because we follow him to any game. I played wow for 15 years and dropped it and moved to ff because I found I enjoyed his content more than any one game. FF is really good too
"Same shirt? Yeah, same joke"
Lol, someone give that kid a bucket to pick himself up
Loved that joke, burst out laughing.
But let's be honest, Asmon repeats the same jokes over and over, too
tbh the joke isn't even funny if the clip of him is less than a week old.
Took him years to come up with that one tho
he only been wearing it for like 2 weeks its still fresh
21:50 "I can just stall and waste people's time, I can just go on and on and on..."
I see he's learned a thing or two from modern day Blizzard.
He talks so much its insane i admire people who can talk so much and not be boring when they speak
@@missperfectluxury7630 A good tip is whenever you talk about something, it's better to talk till the conclusion of it. Even if whatever you say is not that interesting. Makes people feel they didn't waste their time listening to you.
Dexter E i agree but i run out of things to talk about especially having to be in a stream every single day by yourself he literally talks to himself lol while chat listens and he comes up with jokes really fast , I wonder if he has ADHD
This guy just helped me overcome the fact that streaming isn't for me. Appreciate it. Now I can move on!
:)
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I concur. I spend an eternity on the character creation screen mulling over every little detail. That's even when I know I can change most of it later. I can barely stand to sit there with myself let alone watch a recording of it afterward.
Asmon is killing it man I have never played wow or FF and I have watched every one of the FF episodes just because it is something new for him and the audience .... Dude is not boring he is pretty funny and doesn't take himself serious
“Watched every one of the FF episodes”
He’s literally playing FF for 2 days lol what do you mean
@@cyrielroelofs he has plenty of FFXIV related videos before he started playing it
Well if you want to try FF it has a free trial up to level 60 which also includes the award-winning heavensward expansion.
@@franklinturtleton6525 yeah I’d play it too if it didn’t had such a garbage theme, but oh well
I play ZERO videogames. Just love this guy and love watching him
It’s a really good thing that he also plays the game off stream too. There’s still a couple of people that’ll follow him around but when the camera’s off the masses just lose all interest.
@@continuallyblessed44 he’s already mentioned it doesn’t interest him, but then again he thinks cat girls are OK now so we’ll see how his opinion changes lol
@@Cheezdealer are you hating on catgirls I know this is not the ideal spot to debate but I would say FF14 catgirls are much less weeby and more anthropomorphic than wows druids or vulpeera or Tauren imho
@@onyourleft5648 I believe the joke is FF14 is for weebs while WoW is for furries.
@@Theheartslove ok I can see that, I guess then for both it is as furry or weeby as you make it
@@onyourleft5648 He literally wasn’t hating on cat girls. How did you even get to that conclusion? He said Asmon changed his stance on cat girls.
I’m loving his narrative of the game in Asmonese. And I’ve seen these cutscenes he’s playing multiple times
I love how not one name is right and not one location is right. Its making me forget how to say them correctly i have to remind myself.
I do feel that you, Asmon, does a fantastic job in playing/entertaining his audience. I think he's more natural and comfortable. It shows. Thanks Asmon for all your streaming/content!
I agree. I remember seeing his videos some number of years ago and feeling like it was full of anger and not entertaining for me to watch. Started watching again and it is actually enjoyable.
Yep his entire usp is that he is this unbelievable relatable guy. He lives like looks acts talks andnplays like his viewers.
Ok
The dude is an oily wow player
i honestly dont know why people did this. let him have his fun. i wouldnt even wanna imagine what they would do if they saw him in real life
They wouldn't do shit in real life.
Real life? Impossible, 90% of asmongold viewers including me are not going outside for years KEKW
People petty.
They'll try to follow him in real life with a camera and come up to talk to him like he knows who they are. Zero self awareness and thirst for attention.
Chances of an internet incel troller meeting a basement dwelling streamer is like the same as getting struck by lightning while you get hit by a car.
Nice to see Josh getting some big-time attention. All of his videos are brilliant. His FFXIV Beginner's Guide is required viewing for new players.
Yo thanks for bringing that up gonna watch it next
oh really? gonna see that
While watching Josh his video the other day I could already here Asmon say "true" in my head to some of his points, and here we are :')
*truuuue doooood!
@@xushu4990 big true*
So true too real
And real
Tru
Asmongold - "I like to speak very clearly whenever I stream because I know there are international people who watch me" - THANK YOU. Meanwhile I listen to Matt from bellular and I'm like: WHAT?
In all fairness, as an American I sometimes have the same response!
RIP Albsterz
to be honest, I understand Bellular perfectly and I still say WHAT?
I just think it’s really cool that people choose to give this huge game a chance ESPECIALLY from the beginning and isn’t skipping anything.
I pretty much appreciate it when people enjoy the game I’ve been playing for 8 years lol. Plus I only just heard of you 5 days ago because of UA-cam recommendations and you’re pretty fun so keep up the good work.
Man I could 100% see myself as a kid doing this to a streamer I liked to watch. Kids do cringe shit. The crazy part of this is that I'm pretty sure many of those were adults. Considering their expensive/hard to farm mounts... Surely a good portion of them are full grown adults stalking a streamer for hours on end...
You said you enjoy people enjoying the game so I’ll tell you the story of my weekend. I had a hellish time installing ffXIV. It wouldn’t download for shit so I bought world renown Nord VPN and after changing my location to the next city over it finally downloaded with issue (YAY!) so I made my character and started the free trial on a non exp boost server because I’m a pleb (or a, whaddya call it, a sprout?) and I went forward to see what the game is. And I was hooked by hour 2, I don’t think I’ve spent this much time on a game since the Witcher 3. I quite literally spent the WHOLE weekend sitting on my ass playing video games like back when I had time to do that kinda stuff, it was incredible. I LOVE the one character can be every class and job, that’s awesome as hell, little confused by the crafting system but I’m getting there. The community is so far so good to new people. I got into the Titan fight with 2 other sprouts and a veteran and the vet just let us fail so we could enjoy our first time failing and learning. I’ve never had a vet do that before during a group finder instance, it was great. I guess I’m on some infamous erp server (Mateus I think) but haven’t really seen anything so maybe I’m blind or it’s isolated, nonetheless I hope it doesn’t screw me over in the future because I don’t want to have to start over or server swap XD. Anyway, end stor, but I’m taken by surprise by this game and thought maybe you would enjoy some random dudes excitement. Have a good one!
Well, other MMOs are tiny in comparison to WoW so not really 'huge game' for their players.
@@Cool3reeze ffxiv a huge ass game. Biggest issue I feel like people run into is literally that in itself. Realm Reborn as itself is “ok” but as time went on it really was just the groundwork for future expansions. Heavensward really skyrocketed FFXIV in terms of popularity, story, gameplay, etc. Stormblood was pretty great tho many will say they liked Heavensward more which is fair; the current ShadowBringers is most people’s favorite because of how long of a journey it’s been from the beginning up till here where it’s the huge climax. The next/“last” expansion EndWalker will mark the end of the story that everyone’s been following since Realm Reborn and 1.0, cannot wait to see how it finally ends
Ok
The same people who do it also follow the spotted youtubers IRL for 8 hours straight.
To be fair, reality TV-star is faaaar worse then twitch streamer.
It's basically the same thing
same thang boss
@@diode_wow Not even. I'd rather have people follow me in game for the rest of my life than for even a minute irl
Reality tv ‘star’ is trash tier.
@@Adroyo as opposed to the livestreamer...
he has some really good insight, he articulates well, you just plugged his channel hard, good for you man *thumbs up*
Damn "same joke" was a great comeback.
its hilarious seeing him use the thechniques josh is talking about while hes watching the video and is obviously feeling a bit uneasy because of it.
I was watching him watch this video and noticed that most of the time he is kinda looking at it clueless what josh is talking about , and tbh streaming is kinda like a personality thing that u just HAVE to have in order to get any level of success , compared to singing , you have to be born with a good voice so u can sing good , you eater have it or u don't . I felt josh is kinda giving him too much credit for something he does instinctively and subconsciously (very well ofc) rather than something he is constantly think about like a very well trained fighter or actor that had to devote decades to hone his craft and improve his competence to successfully execute his performance/ task at hand
@@satamoto6488 Well im sure he improved the "art" of streaming a lot, coming from someone who watched his videos back in 2015/2016 and watched some of the early streams. He has said before he prioritizes a good stream over anything.
@@dscarmo yes that is true as the same way a singer can improve his singing , but his voice needs to be there in the first place like asmongolds personality and talent needs to be there , his streams are not like a car assembly line where u have precise measurements and defined guide lines of producing working parts it's kinda .. yeah just there ...
@@cattysplat Sweaty hardcores, that's amazing
yeah
This is the day Ive known of Asmongold and started to follow all his contents. Love it.
Now we need Josh to react to Asmon react to Josh commentating Asmon. P.S I love the love for Asmon when he went to FFXIV. I knew this would be a huge thing but this is bonkers. MMO players gotta stick together.
If every game is good, then everyone wins. And if a game stops being good, people should leave. Then the game will either make improvements to become good or keep losing players to other games that do things right. The only people who should ever be in a place to lose should be the publishers. Never the players.
@@JackgarPrime that is a Josh quote through and through
@@Madadader I'll take your word on that one!
Love asmon, But his chat is full of people who find more enjoyment outa commenting on his person than enjoying the content or respecting a streamer they enjoy. Imagine finding enjoyment out of saying the same jokes everyday in chat... Like that's a ritual in your day. Imagine!...
I wonder if they would be able to function anymore without calling the streamer they watch bald 15 times an hour lol
That's not asmongolds viewers, that's just average young people now unfortunately... Once these clowns are old enough to be in positions of power /authority we are all screwed.
We are already seeing It with the panzy snowflake pc society 😂
@@Bilbobaggins82242 k boomer lol
@@Mio-sz2pu k millenial lol
@@Bilbobaggins82242 you'd be surprised how old some of these people are
Asmon's chat just proves the 7 second thing lol
"Is this guy gonna repeat the same thing 15 times?"
"This guy is stunlocked on the same point"
Uh... It's a 15 minute video on a subject. He's talking about that subject. Lmao what
yes but to be entirely fair if your 15 minute long video has you repeating the same things 10, then you could communicate the same information in a fraction of that time. So maybe the video shouldn't be 15 minutes long to begin with.
@@neronthetyrant it wasn't even that bad. I tought one time towards the end that yeah we got it but that's it. He introdused the same point from multiple angles so ofcourse it's going to lead at the end of the point into the same conclusion. Tru he didn't neccesarily have to say the point after every piece of info supporting it but if he have been a teacher it propably comes from there so people would better remember atleast the main point of it if not the reasons for it. But to say it again, it wasn't exhausting to watch and if it was just because of that.. then it explains why so much garpage is on the top of the yt.
Not really, the video wasn't very good and was super repetitive. It was like he had content for a 2 minute video and wanted to make it 15 just because.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 you're misconstrued about my point, the video wasn't horrible, but he did repeat the same point 10 or so times in the video. It's not *the worst thing ever*, but it feels like a waste of time when you watch 4 minutes worth of content stretched so thin. Nothing wrong with a 4 minute video. I think shorter videos that get to the point are of much higher quality than this, and I think most people agree with this.
In case you haven’t seen some of his other videos, he’s an ex teacher and I assume he’s used to this style of lecture. It’s a good engaging style especially when you need to reiterate a lot
Asmon watching someone watching asmon.
Edit: 420, ayyyyy
asmonception?
@@Leohast Baldception
Bald man watching hairy chad watching bald man
We need to go deeper
Meta
Asmon is a good man & he talks to his audience like they are his buddies & that makes him appealing.
Cool
"Oh I thought it was 8 seconds" literally made me spit my drink. And I do mean literally, damn that was funny
Asmon: How can I make this play-through something that people...
Everybody: Hot tub furry Asmon streaming FFXIV.
I can merrily imagine how happy the students that Josh has taught in his Teacher days were to have such a... Cool Teacher xD
And handsome
Asmon went from 30-40k viewers to 100-200k viewers.
FFXIV did have a positive impact on his Twitch career and he deserves it.
You know you're doing a good job when people who don't even play the game watch your stream.
You can tell the British guy doesn’t play WoW by his hair :p
True what a handsome gentleman xD
He has before, but it is not his main MMO, it is (likely) Runescape (both OSRS and RS3). He has a few videos on his channel about them and it's clear he very much loves those games.
Because he's attractive? Yeah, true actually.
About engaging with chat, this is why I find a new appreciation for games that allow streamers to pause during a cutscene. This allows the streamer to pause the game and engage with chat without missing the timing - especially when they wanna share a joke, because the secret to a good joke is timing.
By having pause-able cutscenes, the streamers can engage with chat by pausing and then come back to the scene without missing much.
Good point. I don’t want anything cutting into my fun while playing games so new respect. I like watching Asmongold cause he says the stuff I say the whole time I am playing and everyone in the living room thinks I’m crazy
That's explains why his eyebrows move this much. If his mouth doesn't move, his eyebrows do so he keep us entertained. 7 seconds attention problem fixed!
Eye brow meta
Asmongold destroyed that dude that said "same shirt"
"Same joke"
This video goes to show that stream snipers have a low attention span probably from looking back and forth between screens and if not that then in general being more focused on getting a reaction out of people rather than living your life for yourself. Be a leader not a follower
"that dude" it was the whole chat spamming that shit lmao
Well you get my point then. One sperg sees the first guy say it and then everyone else hive minds to encourage it. It's actually sad. It's like watching the jock at your school convince the rest of the class that they should harass you because they feel like it and the class goes along with it without thinking about the fact that the person they're harassing is just as human as you are. But yeah I agree I try not to pay attention to chat in general that might have been why I didn't notice everyone was doing it
@@DesteryandScorger twitch chat has been really obnoxious lately, not just asmons, its every big streamers chat. Its a bunch of backseating, missusing emotes and hatewatching, complete trash.
@@PilhasGaming True bruther PREACH! Backseat gaming definitely became popular now that metagaming is so much more mainstream because everyone wants to be the best player in the world. Tbh were probably gonne have a lot of work fields in America in dire need as it's become the average Americans dream to be a streamer/content creator (whether its youtube twitch tiktok Instagram or snapchat). Feelsbadman
"You know how I know I'm not talking about anyone you know? Because these people are so boring nobody watches them"
Wow I cant believe asmon talked about me on stream Pog
This is why asmon pauses every 8 seconds
That's why I like quieter streamer sometimes, like fightinCowboy, or Asmon second channel, when you actually want to follow the story or a slower pace
"Yeah, there can be nothing and I can just TALK."
Fun fact, the Japanese streaming community actually has a term for this: Zatsudan. It means something like "Talk Stream". They literally open up a stream and just talk to chat for hours and read Super Chats. It's amazing.
I bet Asmon can do something like that. Like, here's a 2 hour free talk block where he just talks to chat.
So... Just Chatting?
@@TyroPirate People watching someone chatting. :D
Drama! Joy! Discovery! Controversy! More drama! Catgirl petting! Human Warrior!
Of course his FFXIV streams are the hottest shit right now. It's the perfect storm.
That was a great video and great commentary by Zack. Very candid while remaining entertaining. Kudos to both creators.
This is impressive. I never thought I would take someone drinking tea out of a Pikachu mug seriously. Today my mind was changed.
Asmon your insights into D&D were very nice to hear for an old DM like me ... bravo
9:30... I actually laughed out loud at this meltdown. Thanks for that.
When I made my first character just the other day, I didnt notice you could change the voice thing either. This is the first I've heard of it
I feel like this video in particular with the reaction is probably the most important video ever made for anyone interested in streams.
Just being real... I'd love to make a living just gaming but not at that cost. Asmongold bears a heavy burden like a giant warrior champ, usually 😉
Not really, I genuinely believe that it’s not hard for Zack to be Asmongold. It wouldn’t be so successful and funny otherwise, beside some stuff i feel like it’s not really an act. He’s been like this for years, the only burden he has is not to change his true personality. Which we all know is something that won’t ever change for Zack.
@@cyrielroelofs well he has said that hes not like that off stream. On stream he is much more energetic cause he tries to be entertaining. But i do think hes expanding a part of himself instead of faking it.
Being a god tier yt/twitch streamer or something in between also comes with shietty perks and you have to balance the scales if you want to be long term successful, either you give 100% of you all the time, like paying attention to the chat, to the game details simultaneously and entertain by being super creative in real time and suffer from a fast burnout, a very few can do it , but not most, or you do like Asmon does, which is a more relaxed way of interaction with his audience and playing the game, I don't think his seeking to be entertaining all the time to be honest, but I think he found his balance through out the years.
@@cyrielroelofs yeah he needed a break so he took it. If he didn't want to be back he'd be burnt out instead of slaying left and right 🍿
@@cattysplat I highly doubt that’s because he constantly plays a character, he really doesn’t need to think about his actions on stream. It’s definitely part of him, and being burned out of streaming would most likely have happened even if he was truly himself all the time.
It pretty much happens when you literally sit in your room behind a pc everyday, a human being can’t keep that up for months without taking breaks.
Yeah I think its true, the biggest thing that he improved is how clearly and loudly he speaks, I remember his old streams and videos where he just quietly mumbles stuff, it had no energy, I felt like sleeping, and its this way with many streamers, it reduces the mentioned attentions spam from 7 seconds to like 2 when you see someone talking like he was on sedatives lol
Its really amazing how different asmon is when he is in his main stream compared to his alt stream.
Everyone in his UA-cam comments is always super positive.
Love this content keep it up 🙏
12:59 This is so true, I even have that feeling when one friend is watching me play.
Ive tried about 7 times to play this. Its a great game with some really cool elements and attention to detail, but just not for me. Glad youre enjoying it.
6:34 Asmon describing Retail World of Warcraft Players since BFA...
😶
I really recommend Josh's Otherland series. It's an acid trip I'm going through right now.
Honestly the non voiced cutscenes might be helping Asmon engage with the audience, because he gets to read the text instead of talking over VA.
Imagine how big the stream would have been on UA-cam. His video has close to 400,000 views
I work through all his streams so I catch the recaps, I think that would be pretty common
A friend of mine listens to asmon's clips while he drives as a truck driver, can't view streams due to how bad wifi is
What he said about people who don't know much about English is very true. I'm a beginner in English, I barely know how to write, so I still use google translate, and even as a beginner I can understand almost everything he says and that's really good, it helps me learn English with fun.
This made me appreciate streamers even more, thank you for sharing.
However, I am highly sceptic of that seven second attention span. Streamers loose viewers if they don't put out a personal ping every seven seconds? Has this been actually tested?
I mean, I get it. No one wants to watch someone just play the game without commentary - and Asmons reactions to ongoing cutscenes and dialoge do make everything much more fun and engaging.
However, I find it hard to believe that one can *never* take the back seat during for example a suspenseful cutscene.
People tune in for three hour long podcasts of two people just talking to each other off script these days. People can likely endure a minute of suspenseful silence if that's what the game is intending at that moment.
Very late reply, but it's important to keep in mind that the "average attention span" refers to the collective attention span of everyone watching.
One person can have one of several hundred seconds, the other for less than 7 seconds.
And while studies have been pretty divided on the actual value itself, it has without a doubt lowered significantly in the past few years.
Permanent interconnectivity, multiple monitor setups, mobile phones having advanced to an insane stage etc etc etc.
The major con of convenience is that it becomes detrimental to our very evolution as a human species, but we're still and will continue to make everything as convenient as possible.
But yeah, whether it's 7 seconds or 20 seconds or whatever, I think the point still stands.
Just installed FFXIV today. First MMO I’ve played, other than WoW since 2011. Can’t wait.
14:30 proves that over half of asmons viewers don’t deserve him.
I think what draws me is that your a real person and don't cater to any one person and you tell what you like and dislike about games and what could be better just keep up the good work all the best
I would imagine the reason Kids want to be a UA-camr is because they for the most part see Creative Freedom, not of just the Gaming Space of youtube but just being yourself having fun and making money doing it rather than going to college, staying up all night studying just to get a job you only have for the money.
Yes, but what they dont know is the 99% of people failure in be a a great UA-cam channel.
Mostly for young kids probably. Where I went for high school everyone either wanted to be a doctor or an engineer. i.e. have a high paying job. Either way youtube is a super saturated and unreliable employment sector.
Is because they can "work" playing video games
But because it's a brand new profession, it's not completely clear the bad side about this job yet. Every profession has a good and bad side, youtuber is not free of it.
In 20 years we will be seeing the consequences of this job on metal state of youtubers
I would love to get back into this game on PS but I deactivated my account to take a break couple of months ago now Im catching hell trying to reactivating it because of the terrible password safety system.
I mostly jumped into your content for dark souls but hearing about your stream of ff14 makes me so happy for you boss. Keep it up, congrats!!
so Asmongold is a freetalker with a purpose in life.
Asmon - you bring fun and entertainment to the game. Didn't watch you much during my WOW days, but find your observations spot on for FFXIV. Thank you for the fun!
Man has Time splitters on his shelf. Props!
12:09 that's why the most popular genres on twitch are multiplayer shooters and mobas. Where all the attention is just on the gameplay cause there's no story, and even on mmo people mostly watch raids and pvp.
The reason asmongold enjoys FFXIV so much more than we were all expecting is because: that's what his audience wants
Like they say, gamers love BIG numbers
i try and catch your streams as much as possible but sometimes its easier for me on youtube in the background, also with other streamers even if they arent super entertaining all the time, they give info on how to get better that keeps me coming but i suppose streamers do need a hook however.
I think i enjoy all and any streamers that just communicate just saying hi joking around and being entertaining..
This is one of the reasons why most Veteran FFXIV streamers never stream their MSQ progression. You know that they're are really into the game and there's some good in that but also a sacrifices they make to lose out on potential subs.
I can't wait for Asmon to do the Hildebrand questline
yeah, having friends or others to communicate with i feel is helpful in the early stages of the game. when I first tried out this game, I dropped it when I got to Gridania (was the third hub city I went to at the time, very early), with friends I made it to the end of shadowbringers, and god I am glad, shit got so good so quick as far as I am concerned. except fuck the waking sands.
When I was a teacher in China, about 80% of the boys in my classes said they want to be a professional streamer. 60% of the girls said the same. A handful of kids wanted to work in medicine or business or whatever (these were kids aged 13-19). I find that as tech develops, more students are seeking tech related futures, even in content creation.
Also, bein a doctor or any other high end professional requiers actual study, streaming does not.
too bad only .5% people make money streaming
u sure it's not because all these kids see the successful streamers raking in hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars just from playing video games for hours on end? so they are like: damn, i want to get rich playing video games all day too!
Its like how kids used to say they wanted to play basketball or something similar to that
@@Asiankido Yeah, I mean literally majority of kids these days are exposed to internet and any form of social media around 7 - 10 years old, if not earlier. If all they see from a young age are online entertainers and successful streamers, its obvious they will be inspired by it and want to do it.
Some People in chat are so rude for no reason. Just because you already know about the topic of the video, doesn't mean EVERYONE have the same knowledge. Let the guy finish his argument.
This plagues League of legends streamers. That game is extremely difficult to balance quality gameplay and engagement. Unless they are super smurfing, there is very little engagement. On the plus side, most of the viewers are going there for the gameplay (maybe except tyler1, who has probably found the best balance)
The game is usually the focus if you're a good player. I watch a lot of Dota streamers and most of the time they just focus on the game and comment on what's happening or explain their train of thought while making some jokes here and there. Most of the time people watch moba streamers because they're good so they want to see them popping off rather than interacting with chat. That's why so many people watch faker even though they don't speak Korean.
LoL is one of the exceptions, people prefer gameplay over interaction. Faker doesn't even speak English and his stream is hugely popular in the west because he's just that good.
Before it was "I wanna be a youtuber" it was "I wanna be a movie star/music star/[insert celebrity type here]" This isn't really a change, it's just a sort of a horizontal shift. It's essentially the same thing, it's just a different time/culture's version of that thing.
I watch asmon because he has a lot of the same opinions as I do about gaming and whenever that happens with a streamer or youtuber it instantly makes you enjoy watching them play a game over someone else play the same game right.
I was healing a dungeon while i watched the video. On that 7 seconds i saved lifes countless times. Double monitor is savior
Id love to see asmon and Josh sit down and talk about the state of MMOs, asmon is way more intelligent than we all give him credit for and I think the discourse between these two would be awesome
As someone who started the trial to play with my friends on cactaur about a week before him it’s been surreal as shit
Your constant ability to continue interesting conversations with yourself is why I enjoy your content so much Asmon! Keep it up bro!
15:50 Asmon hasn't changed shirts in days
This guy made streaming sound hard. Maybe when I finally break into the Twitch scene I'll be number 1 in speedrunning, where the audience is simply there to spectate and they know what to expect.
I wish the UA-camrs that make "how to" videos for quests and mob kills would apply some of this same advice. I prefer some explanatory voice over or text. I want a good look at the map and local terrain when the mob is hard to find. I don't need a tour of the public transportation system from zone to zone. I don't need to watch every second of every repetitive fight. Most of all, don't add a music track just because it suits your personal tastes. Display the maps, quest objectives, loot, and rewards for longer than a split second so I have time to hit the pause.
Type /actionerror off to disable the noise a skills does in GCd when you press it
That's why I like Asmon's streams. Definitely entertaining and engaging.
6:28 this bit is so true and real 😂😂
I played FF14 back when it was on PS3 got a free upgrade to PS4 and have been thinking about hopping back in. Really good MMO
I dont play WoW or FF14 but i watch Asmon`s youtube every week. He made it as an entertainer.
i think this is why hes moving to FF from wow,,, business standpoint..
That thing about the audience is why my favorite Twitch streamer plays a mobile game. He's highly entertaining, and it's partly because he can spare the attention to BE entertaining. Someone like Asmongold who can play an intense game and still be entertaining is a god.
I loved watching you play FF you seemed real happy and it made me feel warm . I love loved you reading the dialogue , the accent
Thank you for another vid. Waiting for this fucking maintenance to stop getting delayed
Hey Asmongold, not sure if you look at these comments but as a friendly piece of advice from an older player to a new one (especially on patch days) the X key on the keyboard will make all player names disappear for as long as you hold it. It really helps for clicking on quest givers and npcs if there are too many players around. ^^ Hope you continue to enjoy the game!
You know we are here for the streamer and not the game because we follow him to any game. I played wow for 15 years and dropped it and moved to ff because I found I enjoyed his content more than any one game. FF is really good too
😂 omg chat said the le epic meme 😂 same shirt 😂🤣
The best streams are the ones where you have fun :)
Lol... Now i noticed the pikatsu in his cup. Before 10:20 and after 12:50, 17:41.
Asmon is such a good speaker/streamer. You don't even have to edit his yt videos to make a great video.