t3hgraemek 1 hour for 1-3 turns isn’t uncommon for any factions with Attila’s turn times. I really wish they went back and optimized Attila like they did for Rome 2.
I love it. Apart from being legit in terms of the actual game it is also a very good case study of a restructure. He started with a bloated corpse of an inefficient organisation. He downsized it, streamlined it, balanced the books. What stands out is that the success of this approach comes directly from the ruthlessly efficient SWOT analysis of the situation and SMART goal setting. You could actually show this clip to a a group of mid tier managers and they would recognise these points straight away. Also, massive props for the editing.
I liked it too, however it goes to show how poorly the game reflects the ancient economics of west rome. As inaccurate as rome 1 was in many ways, the Barbarian Invasion campaign reflects it quite well, sacrificing everything but Italy there would cripple the economy, the key in that case is not so much a restructure as an infrastructure development and internal conflict resolution. (converting mostly to christian or pagan)
I wonder if CA, when designing the game, viewed the latter-day Western Roman Empire as a bloated corporation in dire need of a restructure, and had the game mechanics reflect this.
I remember that legendary total war campaign with the Western Roman Empire(This is how I found your channel). This is the total opposite of that campaign. But, it makes sense. Good strategy, thanks
Yeah that's how I found him too. He said this way was for people trying legendary for the first time. That campaign was him trying for the this is total war achievement.
That was my first exposure to LOTW also. I was watching some other UA-camrs attempting WRE campaign, and was disappointed until I found that This is Total War WRE campaign. And right now there are two UA-camrs who are doing WRE campaigns, and I feel disappointed again and proceeded to re-watch his campaign from 5 years ago.
tbh look at the time when this video came out and when the last WRE video came out. This is pretty much a retrospective of everything he learned over that marathon 111+ hour long campaign. Consider this: this strat has a first turn take 16 minutes while the WRE video had a first turn take 3-4 hours.
Unpopular opinion: WRE with weaker huns mod and climate change mod on easy/medium is amazing and enjoyable. Disable the climate mode and get a -20% power mod for the huns, play it on hard, more than enough. Anything more than this is just pointless in my opinion. Why would you torture yourself like this
@@alecsis882 i totally agree i hate to play games on crazy high difficulties people call me "lazy" or "not good enough". But loke bro I'd rather be gettong better in real life than on this game i play it to have FUN
@@Madmagic Well you arent good enough then, right? But its up to you how to enjoy the game. and for an emperor seeing your empire crumble on all corners is really really irritating
Abandoning entire provinces should be met with massive debuff on public order/opinion CK2 style. There is no way an actual imperator would get away with abandoning 2/3 of estates.
“I’ll say a few things that seem like utter nonsense.” Dude if you said to send an entire army to Parthia I’d take my chances and do it. Also, Benny Hill is always a win.
Watching this a quote from Joe Abercrombie's 'Before they are Hanged' comes to mind, I think it was something like this: "We actually lose money just holding Dagoska. The only reason we still have it, is so the nobles can point at the map and say: 'This spot there belongs to us'."
Nice guide. Just a tip for keeping public order not mentioned in the video: on legendary always put your taxes on high (1 from the top) as WRE since they have constant immigration trait and high taxes reduce immigration percentage. The combined public order penalty from (normal tax + max immigration %) is higher than just (high tax) on legendary. Also: the economic effect of immigrants is easily overshadowed by having less public order buildings and more economy buildings + the higher tax percentage so high taxes basically make life a lot easier at the cost of a little growth potential.
"They're attacking all of our cities!" "Don't panic." "Our people are rebelling!" "Don't panic." "Rome is burning!" "Ooh, Lyre time!" -Legend of Total Nero.
Romans are always my favorite (particularly western rome) and I was discouraged when I first looked at this faction thinking it's impossible. I only just picked up Attila (played other total war titles) but now I feel confident that I can do this. Thank you so much man, excellent guide
There is a surprising lack of high quality Attila content on UA-cam. Especially some that's semi-recent (as in, not 5+ years old). This is nice, wouldn't mind another Attila campaign as well. :)
This campaign is pretty much all about the first turns, and it's where the majority of people fail because they get overwhelmed. If you manage to hold and set up a comeback, the empire snowballs into its greatness again
Yep, for the roman empire the first few turns are the most critical. I tend to try and maintain as much territory as possible when I play a Western roman campaign (for fun ^^), but I don't recommend it to new players as it's hard as hell.
This still might have been the hardest vanilla game campaign CA has put out; at least so far as when the corruption was even more ridiculous than it is now, and could take like 95% of your income to boot when starting out WRE legendary, and trying to hold onto anything.
ADD-ON LEGEND 11:59 more diplomacy: you can call some of the barbarian neighborhood in those war. 23:02 check all your generals/statesman: some trait help
Man slogging it through a cooperative campaign as the western (me) and eastern (my friend) Roman Empire was so rewarding in the end. It could have been easier but I went with the cheesy fuckers route lol. Held on to everything in the beginning somehow and ended up with us converting back to grecco-Roman paganism and conquering the whole map. The biggest challenge was Attila because even though we tried appeasing the ai with gifts, the Huns declared war after Attila was born. To those new players reading this know that the ai will literally cheat in this instance. If you defeat all units they will have a new 20 stack of elite late game units spawn randomly, ad infinitum until Attila comes of age and you can kill him. Just know this because avoiding this particular situation will save you so much headache. This ai cheat is simply poor design to railroad you into defeating Attila. Hold off on declaring war on them until you can actually best Attila himself about 3 times over.
This strategy is very efficient. In addition, you can put some agents in the north where passages through Italy are, and you will see in time all the incoming attacks :D also 1 or 2 navies in North Africa is efficient to destroy any attack to Cagliari/Palma/Syracusa
This is Class. I've never played this, I've loaded it up but found it to big to contemplate. You have just opened the door for me. I foresee a winter campaign. Top notch Legend. Could do with one of these on Showgun.
You can also try to save North Africa for the fertility it has, it pretty much become your bread basket the whole campaign. Also you should keep and defend the iron province at the north of Italy for making it your recruitment province.
yes! lmao I was watching your atilla videos the other day wishing you had a tutorial for western Rome. that play thru is ridiculously tough.. ofcourse I always try holding onto Africa and Britain lol
Recently played again. It is definitely possible to win over the 3 african provinces to be long term trade partners. It brings in better trade. Nice video. I always go for the offensive on the british isles to take the enemy asap, gradually stabilise up there. Also conquering and making the germanics works if you expect them to revolt but then peace them and gradually build up a peace coalition to fight those still unfriendly with you. It is true it is a slow grind to get the provinces up if you hold on to everything.
In real life it would have been near impossible. Territories on the frontier were not full of mindless pawns, they would not have accepted their abandonment without a fight. Most likely the leader that tried would be killed or you would see a large break off of the empire. A second or third empire on the frontier would still be weak to foreign invasion and threaten the core.
I survived a Very Hard Campaing on this Faction. and actualy get to the good end gaming (domination). but is aways fun to remember the HELL and the HORROR TIMES I get in this game.
In my campaign I actually managed to hold on to most of my initial territory. Settlement battles are easy enough to cheese. And then just started building up the empire from the core outwards while focusing on a couple of choice frontier provinces. Weak ass real Romans, should have gitten gud.
Just a few questions. 1. Instead of picking Italy to retreat to why not hole up in Hispania? It's further away and the provinces are as rich, I think. 2. Would it be possible to try and hold onto BOTH Hispania and Italy? 3. Would It make sense to try and hold some of the cities that border the Med, such as Aquae Sextiae and Salona on the Adriatic? Besides that thanks for the guide. Im going to try it once I have time to play video games again
Personally I think eliminating the Quadians is quite easy. Take your army nearby, fill it with mercenaries, it will cost a couple thousand but you'll easily be able to autoresolve and mop up their remaining hordes. If they escape, they're unlikely to bother you in the rest of the campaign. Also I like to consolidate the African provinces. Get friendly with the Garamantians and the minor Africans will likely be too afraid to attack you. If you knock the Maurians (Or maybe it's the Gaetulians), you can complete your western most African province, and essentially secure a southern border. From there it's q great way to re conquer Iberia if it falls to Suebi or Hispanians, and can be the bread basket for a lot of your highly developed provinces of Italia and Liguria.
Also about the truce breaking when taking out some hordes or minor nations in your way, I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Past the first couple turns, your diplomatic reputation isn't really too important. Get that non aggression and trade with as many Africans as you can, maybe a trade deal with the Saxons if they're up for it. Then be a treacherous bastard to your hearts content. So good to move your armies to adjacent hordes and then truce break them. Able to wipe them out in a turn if you've brought enough men.
Well an alternative that I do is to wait for seperatist rebels to occupy a province and then vassalize them. Same with most nomadic people. Give them a province then vassalize. Since you are in war with 100 nations they also get dragged with 100 nations so your relations can really build up. An exploit is to sack a settlement infinite times.
I think you should do more of these tutorial videos. Fantastic content. Spread the knowledge! Why not one for legendary Uesugi in Shogun 2? It's brutal.
I just did a WRE run on very hard using a somewhat similar strategy (less abandoning, keeping spain and north africa) and the Eastern Romans actually declared war on me and attacked me a while after I broke the military alliance. For once they didn't fracture too and kept most of their territories.
In my campaign I somehow managed to hold also the south of France, some of Africa, and Iberia and they never were attacked, then I builded a fort in Aquilea and set up a permanent army in my capital to stop anything from coming in and to stop huns and then I just went up France again and now I basically won
Muito bom esse guia, já tinha começado minha campanha com WRE no legendário e tive vários problemas como guerras e rebeliões no início e é bem difícil segurar as pontas, dessa forma que você fez simplifica bastante a organização do império! I'am Brazilian guy!
Also if you can hundle destroy the quadry and the suebi . Quardy needs 2 turns to die . Just send an army to the bridge and call the army from the austria to join you with mercenaries . Then take the army from the gaul and spain and hunt the suebi . And if you are a hard player you can defeat the jutes in engalnd and make them client state with some mercenaries from their provinces . Also defend london woth a small navy in the beggin onoy just to abandond it
Did it with improvements. Kept Salona, it's self sufficient, kept southern France, gave a province to Suebi and got them on side. Kept the gold province in Spain. Big difference? Declared war on East Rome turn 1, and assassinated my wives to marry barb princesses. Invading Greece and East Rome in Ptolemais, it's pretty cool so far. Sheep, capitols, and theatres has me rolling in gold.
Haven't played as WRE, but would it make sense to hand over the Britain settlements to the Britain's??? I've found them to be strong and often send forces and money. They usually take out a faction or 2 also
Wiping out teh Quadians is easy. Just move teh nearest stack towrds them and move the other nearest stack from Augusta Vindelicorum, recruit troops in the mid move, then mercs, and smash them and raze their settlement. It also stops all other Barbarian factions from raiding your territory
Better than demolishing all the buildings is to just demolish those that cost upkeep. Let the others be and collect the taxes until they rebel or get taken by other factions.
Thank you for this guide. Absolutely worked like a charm in 2023 and allowed me to BTFO out of the Huns, stable the shit out of my Empire the likes of Rome 2 TW and amass doom stacks that started roaming the wild. Unfortunately by the time I conquered West and Central Europe and reached Persia, my game started crashing at around turn 225 no matter what I did. Had to ditch that save :(
I'm just imagining the real Western Roman Empire back in the day going "you know what? This ain't worth it" and going city to city demolishing every building in the outer reaches of the empire and packing up and going back to Italy, while the people living in those areas go "hey wait wtf"
because the public order penalty is far too great to hold those provinces. Plus the inevitable rebellions would be enemy factions right on his doorstep. Better to use a scorched earth campaign than to risk more enemies coming out of the woodwork. Especially so close to italia.
As much as I like the map of Rome 2 and Atilla TW with all the details and stuff, I ffing hate how the camera sometimes rotates like 180 degrees when armies are being attacked and armies are moving. I mean, I was totally desoriented when I viewed Britain upside down in this video.
Personally I keep Italy pretty mutch the same and build up northern Iberia , Northen Italy , and the 2 provinces that connect Iberia to Italy I then make Iberia my bread basket and turn it into a food making machine As well as long as you trade and lay for non aggressions Africa will be relatively safe most the game , but make sure to build u other public order , what. Usually do aswell in the north of Italy is build tons of garrisons to help it And then I start to slowly abandon Gaul and the Balkans , I usually keep a few settlements (like the city of Burgundia and vesonito) strong for a while outside of my main fortified areas , but as soon as the barbarians arrive I demolish everything
4 years but ehat the heck, here i go. I've been trying to make the wre greek christian for the research buff against money (research is a huge bottleneck for wre in mid/late game), by occupying ere lands and keeping their churches, but it didnt work because you need 35% to convert and i didnt manage to go above 27. Have you tried this? Or anyone?
A a guy who just started playing, I surrendered all territorries exept africa and Italy to Huns and after i mustered 5 armies I beat the Huns, reconquered everything and taked care of provinces
"First things first, do not panic."
*Roman soldier sweats profusely*
1 Hour for 10 turns. Seems about accurate.
and a lot is sped up too
one hour for 1-3 turns in attila isn't uncommon if you are playing as the romans
t3hgraemek 1 hour for 1-3 turns isn’t uncommon for any factions with Attila’s turn times. I really wish they went back and optimized Attila like they did for Rome 2.
no battle though :D
Sometimes during end turn the huns take 2 minutes. Idk what they are doing, but they are doing something
99% of what I learned in Total War was from his 100+ episode WRE master class.
where is that?
Note: the guide won't work if you don't play the music when demolishing everything
Total War: Benny Hill
Push it to the limit!
what is the song called?
@@theovertaker40 *Benny Hills Theme Song*
somewhat like that. user 'doktarr' already mentioned that, though.
Best comment
I love it.
Apart from being legit in terms of the actual game it is also a very good case study of a restructure.
He started with a bloated corpse of an inefficient organisation. He downsized it, streamlined it, balanced the books.
What stands out is that the success of this approach comes directly from the ruthlessly efficient SWOT analysis of the situation and SMART goal setting.
You could actually show this clip to a a group of mid tier managers and they would recognise these points straight away.
Also, massive props for the editing.
I liked it too, however it goes to show how poorly the game reflects the ancient economics of west rome. As inaccurate as rome 1 was in many ways, the Barbarian Invasion campaign reflects it quite well, sacrificing everything but Italy there would cripple the economy, the key in that case is not so much a restructure as an infrastructure development and internal conflict resolution. (converting mostly to christian or pagan)
This is easily the most nerdy thing I've read on youtube
@@Cipher993 Thank you
Lol what’s up with these hate comments
I wonder if CA, when designing the game, viewed the latter-day Western Roman Empire as a bloated corporation in dire need of a restructure, and had the game mechanics reflect this.
"too many churches around the place"
Tips fedora
lol glad im not the only one who noticed that lol
Thanks Legend,
I really learnt something new! Bennius Hillius, Master of Coin, helped save the Western Roman Empire!
I remember that legendary total war campaign with the Western Roman Empire(This is how I found your channel). This is the total opposite of that campaign. But, it makes sense. Good strategy, thanks
Yeah that's how I found him too. He said this way was for people trying legendary for the first time. That campaign was him trying for the this is total war achievement.
I watched it as well back in 2015.
Not being in a "This is total War" situation makes things orders of magnitude easier.
That was my first exposure to LOTW also. I was watching some other UA-camrs attempting WRE campaign, and was disappointed until I found that This is Total War WRE campaign. And right now there are two UA-camrs who are doing WRE campaigns, and I feel disappointed again and proceeded to re-watch his campaign from 5 years ago.
tbh look at the time when this video came out and when the last WRE video came out. This is pretty much a retrospective of everything he learned over that marathon 111+ hour long campaign. Consider this: this strat has a first turn take 16 minutes while the WRE video had a first turn take 3-4 hours.
first step: quit to main menu and choose medium difficulty
second step: quit after 2 turns and go to the main menu, choose easy difficulty. start over campaign.
Unpopular opinion: WRE with weaker huns mod and climate change mod on easy/medium is amazing and enjoyable. Disable the climate mode and get a -20% power mod for the huns, play it on hard, more than enough.
Anything more than this is just pointless in my opinion. Why would you torture yourself like this
@@alecsis882 i totally agree i hate to play games on crazy high difficulties people call me "lazy" or "not good enough". But loke bro I'd rather be gettong better in real life than on this game i play it to have FUN
@@Madmagic Well you arent good enough then, right? But its up to you how to enjoy the game.
and for an emperor seeing your empire crumble on all corners is really really irritating
Abandoning entire provinces should be met with massive debuff on public order/opinion CK2 style. There is no way an actual imperator would get away with abandoning 2/3 of estates.
“I’ll say a few things that seem like utter nonsense.”
Dude if you said to send an entire army to Parthia I’d take my chances and do it.
Also, Benny Hill is always a win.
"Just go ahead and siege Ctesiphon. What have you got to lose?"
they'll never land there, actually :D they'll get torn apart by Bosporus.
@@the_rover1 Just go through allied egypt, and take the southern sea route, and when you land, THEN you declare the war :)
@@adrianbundy3249 dude, you're cheesing the game!!1! ;)
Watching this a quote from Joe Abercrombie's 'Before they are Hanged' comes to mind, I think it was something like this: "We actually lose money just holding Dagoska. The only reason we still have it, is so the nobles can point at the map and say: 'This spot there belongs to us'."
Damn good book
This guide was a real secret blend of herbs and spices. I've yet to try WRE at all because Attila is a bit wet. Keep it up legend!
I love your cities skylines videos.. weird to see you here
So transition to a smaller, more compact state with an agriculture based economy? How medieval!
I've been following you since 2015 because of your legendary WRE campaign. Great job as always!
Nice guide. Just a tip for keeping public order not mentioned in the video: on legendary always put your taxes on high (1 from the top) as WRE since they have constant immigration trait and high taxes reduce immigration percentage. The combined public order penalty from (normal tax + max immigration %) is higher than just (high tax) on legendary. Also: the economic effect of immigrants is easily overshadowed by having less public order buildings and more economy buildings + the higher tax percentage so high taxes basically make life a lot easier at the cost of a little growth potential.
You understand the WRE has a really rough start when the 10 turns video lasts more than any of the 20 turns videos
30 mins are deleting towns and villages, though :D
that moment when the AI uses legends technique to level up their generals. "just sack the settlement over and over again!"
So what you're saying is I should *not panic* ?
yes!
keep demolishing and ignoring those pesky armies knocking on your doors. they aren't real. they'll leave. eventually.
"They're attacking all of our cities!"
"Don't panic."
"Our people are rebelling!"
"Don't panic."
"Rome is burning!"
"Ooh, Lyre time!"
-Legend of Total Nero.
Romans are always my favorite (particularly western rome) and I was discouraged when I first looked at this faction thinking it's impossible. I only just picked up Attila (played other total war titles) but now I feel confident that I can do this. Thank you so much man, excellent guide
There is a surprising lack of high quality Attila content on UA-cam. Especially some that's semi-recent (as in, not 5+ years old). This is nice, wouldn't mind another Attila campaign as well. :)
*Eastern Roman Empire Guide:* Just sit there and spam the end turn button, and watch the money stack up.
Then on turn 50 panic when you go over the money limit and hit -5000000 gold
Did it, but I'm in a better situation financially as west rome with a huge number of theatres and sheep. 🐑
"With hordes - what you do is you lure them in...and then fucking kill them!"
- Legend of Total War 2019
The editing and music was fun and a surprise from Legend. It's obnoxious if overdone but sprinkled in here and there adds a lot to the video
If im not misteaking is ms. Legend that did the editing
10 Turns? Though you'd need a 50 turn guide haha
This campaign is pretty much all about the first turns, and it's where the majority of people fail because they get overwhelmed. If you manage to hold and set up a comeback, the empire snowballs into its greatness again
Yep, for the roman empire the first few turns are the most critical. I tend to try and maintain as much territory as possible when I play a Western roman campaign (for fun ^^), but I don't recommend it to new players as it's hard as hell.
This still might have been the hardest vanilla game campaign CA has put out; at least so far as when the corruption was even more ridiculous than it is now, and could take like 95% of your income to boot when starting out WRE legendary, and trying to hold onto anything.
First 10 turns is essential. It is either die or survive. Not win but survive!
ADD-ON LEGEND 11:59 more diplomacy: you can call some of the barbarian neighborhood in those war. 23:02 check all your generals/statesman: some trait help
The countryside catching on fire was not expected
Man slogging it through a cooperative campaign as the western (me) and eastern (my friend) Roman Empire was so rewarding in the end. It could have been easier but I went with the cheesy fuckers route lol. Held on to everything in the beginning somehow and ended up with us converting back to grecco-Roman paganism and conquering the whole map. The biggest challenge was Attila because even though we tried appeasing the ai with gifts, the Huns declared war after Attila was born. To those new players reading this know that the ai will literally cheat in this instance. If you defeat all units they will have a new 20 stack of elite late game units spawn randomly, ad infinitum until Attila comes of age and you can kill him. Just know this because avoiding this particular situation will save you so much headache. This ai cheat is simply poor design to railroad you into defeating Attila. Hold off on declaring war on them until you can actually best Attila himself about 3 times over.
Best thumbnail you've ever had
This strategy is very efficient. In addition, you can put some agents in the north where passages through Italy are, and you will see in time all the incoming attacks :D also 1 or 2 navies in North Africa is efficient to destroy any attack to Cagliari/Palma/Syracusa
This is Class. I've never played this, I've loaded it up but found it to big to contemplate. You have just opened the door for me. I foresee a winter campaign. Top notch Legend. Could do with one of these on Showgun.
Legend stepping up his editing game. 👌🏽
You can also try to save North Africa for the fertility it has, it pretty much become your bread basket the whole campaign. Also you should keep and defend the iron province at the north of Italy for making it your recruitment province.
That fucking thumbnail made me spit out my tea. You're a beast, Legend.
5:48 your editing keeps getting better Legend.
My shit pc cant run this game but i still enjoy watching those tutorials! Nice job Legend...:)
Best thumbnail yet.
28:13 holy negative public order batman
love total war attila content
Same
Legend of Total War has also become Legend of Thumbnail, the best one yet lol.
The new series are great, good job 👍🏼
alright, that benny hill scene got me, wheres that support Jeff button at?
Thumbnail 10/10
yes! lmao I was watching your atilla videos the other day wishing you had a tutorial for western Rome. that play thru is ridiculously tough.. ofcourse I always try holding onto Africa and Britain lol
Thanks, love Attila content!
Recently played again. It is definitely possible to win over the 3 african provinces to be long term trade partners. It brings in better trade. Nice video. I always go for the offensive on the british isles to take the enemy asap, gradually stabilise up there. Also conquering and making the germanics works if you expect them to revolt but then peace them and gradually build up a peace coalition to fight those still unfriendly with you.
It is true it is a slow grind to get the provinces up if you hold on to everything.
Ledgend becomes a economics teacher in total war👌
Imagine the Western Roman's did this shit, they might have survived
In real life it would have been near impossible. Territories on the frontier were not full of mindless pawns, they would not have accepted their abandonment without a fight. Most likely the leader that tried would be killed or you would see a large break off of the empire. A second or third empire on the frontier would still be weak to foreign invasion and threaten the core.
I survived a Very Hard Campaing on this Faction. and actualy get to the good end gaming (domination). but is aways fun to remember the HELL and the HORROR TIMES I get in this game.
This is Legends ROMEXIT video JAJA!
In my campaign I actually managed to hold on to most of my initial territory. Settlement battles are easy enough to cheese. And then just started building up the empire from the core outwards while focusing on a couple of choice frontier provinces.
Weak ass real Romans, should have gitten gud.
Yes of course. You could actually hold ALL of your territory.
editing on point! gj legend wife
Just a few questions.
1. Instead of picking Italy to retreat to why not hole up in Hispania? It's further away and the provinces are as rich, I think.
2. Would it be possible to try and hold onto BOTH Hispania and Italy?
3. Would It make sense to try and hold some of the cities that border the Med, such as Aquae Sextiae and Salona on the Adriatic?
Besides that thanks for the guide. Im going to try it once I have time to play video games again
Its possible to do all those things
A thing that could be done is use Africa as the bread basket instead of letting it go.
Personally I think eliminating the Quadians is quite easy. Take your army nearby, fill it with mercenaries, it will cost a couple thousand but you'll easily be able to autoresolve and mop up their remaining hordes. If they escape, they're unlikely to bother you in the rest of the campaign.
Also I like to consolidate the African provinces. Get friendly with the Garamantians and the minor Africans will likely be too afraid to attack you. If you knock the Maurians (Or maybe it's the Gaetulians), you can complete your western most African province, and essentially secure a southern border. From there it's q great way to re conquer Iberia if it falls to Suebi or Hispanians, and can be the bread basket for a lot of your highly developed provinces of Italia and Liguria.
Also about the truce breaking when taking out some hordes or minor nations in your way, I honestly wouldn't worry about it.
Past the first couple turns, your diplomatic reputation isn't really too important. Get that non aggression and trade with as many Africans as you can, maybe a trade deal with the Saxons if they're up for it. Then be a treacherous bastard to your hearts content. So good to move your armies to adjacent hordes and then truce break them. Able to wipe them out in a turn if you've brought enough men.
Anyone notice that Legend looks like Mac from Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
Personally I would love to have Legend do a full length play through. I've learned a lot about how to managed this game
he already did a western roman empire walkthrough
2024 anyone?
Best total war
No, it's laggy, and I have a very good computer
16:45 25:00 the nuke of Gaul
Do an advanced guide :D i wanna see the extent at which this goes
Well an alternative that I do is to wait for seperatist rebels to occupy a province and then vassalize them. Same with most nomadic people. Give them a province then vassalize. Since you are in war with 100 nations they also get dragged with 100 nations so your relations can really build up. An exploit is to sack a settlement infinite times.
That’s when the legend of total war part makes sense
I think you should do more of these tutorial videos. Fantastic content. Spread the knowledge! Why not one for legendary Uesugi in Shogun 2? It's brutal.
I just did a WRE run on very hard using a somewhat similar strategy (less abandoning, keeping spain and north africa) and the Eastern Romans actually declared war on me and attacked me a while after I broke the military alliance. For once they didn't fracture too and kept most of their territories.
In my campaign I somehow managed to hold also the south of France, some of Africa, and Iberia and they never were attacked, then I builded a fort in Aquilea and set up a permanent army in my capital to stop anything from coming in and to stop huns and then I just went up France again and now I basically won
I had similar run, his first guide about WRE was also like that. But this 10 turn guide makes it much easier.
Muito bom esse guia, já tinha começado minha campanha com WRE no legendário e tive vários problemas como guerras e rebeliões no início e é bem difícil segurar as pontas, dessa forma que você fez simplifica bastante a organização do império!
I'am Brazilian guy!
Thumbnail:10/10
Love the thumbnail
You never let me down with your campaign. LOL
You re my hero legend!!!
Thanks for this!
That thumbnail tho XD you're the best legend
Also if you can hundle destroy the quadry and the suebi . Quardy needs 2 turns to die . Just send an army to the bridge and call the army from the austria to join you with mercenaries . Then take the army from the gaul and spain and hunt the suebi . And if you are a hard player you can defeat the jutes in engalnd and make them client state with some mercenaries from their provinces . Also defend london woth a small navy in the beggin onoy just to abandond it
that thumbnail photo is the funniest i have seen in a while :P:P
My man make this into a series like finish this campaign cause I am hooked
Minty Minh He already did years ago lol.
Thanks
Did it with improvements. Kept Salona, it's self sufficient, kept southern France, gave a province to Suebi and got them on side. Kept the gold province in Spain. Big difference?
Declared war on East Rome turn 1, and assassinated my wives to marry barb princesses. Invading Greece and East Rome in Ptolemais, it's pretty cool so far.
Sheep, capitols, and theatres has me rolling in gold.
I almost spat on my drink when i see, the Vandals was killed by WRE in one turn on legendary difficulty
Haven't played as WRE, but would it make sense to hand over the Britain settlements to the Britain's??? I've found them to be strong and often send forces and money. They usually take out a faction or 2 also
Wiping out teh Quadians is easy. Just move teh nearest stack towrds them and move the other nearest stack from Augusta Vindelicorum, recruit troops in the mid move, then mercs, and smash them and raze their settlement. It also stops all other Barbarian factions from raiding your territory
That -420 Public Order though ~25:30 ish
Better than demolishing all the buildings is to just demolish those that cost upkeep. Let the others be and collect the taxes until they rebel or get taken by other factions.
Thank you for this guide. Absolutely worked like a charm in 2023 and allowed me to BTFO out of the Huns, stable the shit out of my Empire the likes of Rome 2 TW and amass doom stacks that started roaming the wild. Unfortunately by the time I conquered West and Central Europe and reached Persia, my game started crashing at around turn 225 no matter what I did. Had to ditch that save :(
This is awesome.
So Legend...I have to ask one question: Would you consider this a Rome 2 Saving your disaster campaign video? :P
I'm just imagining the real Western Roman Empire back in the day going "you know what? This ain't worth it" and going city to city demolishing every building in the outer reaches of the empire and packing up and going back to Italy, while the people living in those areas go "hey wait wtf"
Wanna play Attila because of the video :D
Why abandon Iberia or northern Africa?? Those are easy to hold
because the public order penalty is far too great to hold those provinces. Plus the inevitable rebellions would be enemy factions right on his doorstep. Better to use a scorched earth campaign than to risk more enemies coming out of the woodwork. Especially so close to italia.
I think it would be cool to see a video where you show what kind of video settings you use and why, in games like attila, warhammer 2 etc...
Came for the legend, stayed for the Benny Hill theme
As much as I like the map of Rome 2 and Atilla TW with all the details and stuff, I ffing hate how the camera sometimes rotates like 180 degrees when armies are being attacked and armies are moving. I mean, I was totally desoriented when I viewed Britain upside down in this video.
Personally I keep Italy pretty mutch the same and build up northern Iberia , Northen Italy , and the 2 provinces that connect Iberia to Italy
I then make Iberia my bread basket and turn it into a food making machine
As well as long as you trade and lay for non aggressions Africa will be relatively safe most the game , but make sure to build u other public order , what. Usually do aswell in the north of Italy is build tons of garrisons to help it
And then I start to slowly abandon Gaul and the Balkans , I usually keep a few settlements (like the city of Burgundia and vesonito) strong for a while outside of my main fortified areas , but as soon as the barbarians arrive I demolish everything
4 years but ehat the heck, here i go.
I've been trying to make the wre greek christian for the research buff against money (research is a huge bottleneck for wre in mid/late game), by occupying ere lands and keeping their churches, but it didnt work because you need 35% to convert and i didnt manage to go above 27. Have you tried this? Or anyone?
soon as i saw the new vid title i was like "legend of tw here guys I'm sick of being asked to fix your WRE campaigns"
I watched the whole demolishing process at 5:49 in x2 speed
Will do this campaign soon.
And yes, I did rewind to listen to Benny Hill again.
Nice!! just one question, why didn't you start decimating armies right at the start so their integrity would be ok sooner?
You got your legs wrong....
A a guy who just started playing, I surrendered all territorries exept africa and Italy to Huns and after i mustered 5 armies I beat the Huns, reconquered everything and taked care of provinces
you can recruit a navy and station them at port cities to help public order
*Lose 75% of the Empire's superficy*
To this I say : "Live to fight another day boys...Live to fight another day"
and if it's up to abandoning your inhabitants, your local business men and your border soldiers' families...well that's how mafia works!