Untold Future of Pak - India Relations & Why USA Wants to Save Pakistan's Economy.
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- Untold Future of Pakistan India Relations & Why USA Wants to Save Pakistan's Economy. @raftartv Podcast with Shabbar Zaidi
In this thought-provoking podcast episode, we delve deep into the intricacies of Pakistani politics with renowned expert Shabbar Zaidi. Join us as we dissect prevalent misconceptions and shed light on critical issues shaping the nation's political landscape.
The conversation navigates through the aftermath of recent elections, questioning the legitimacy of results and the role of institutions in upholding democratic principles. Zaidi's analysis extends to the intertwined relationship between political parties, the military, and the establishment, exposing the underlying tensions and potential paths forward.
With astute observations and historical context, Zaidi paints a vivid picture of Pakistan's political landscape, highlighting the urgent need for dialogue, reform, and civic engagement. Join us as we unravel the complexities of power, democracy, and governance in Pakistan with Shabbar Zaidi.
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India did not stop the trade, it was Imran Khan who stopped the trade after the revocation of Article 370
Shabbar Zaidi should be the permanent member of rafter. He is very intelligent and upfront guy who speak on it's face. Shabbar Zaidi should come every week in your podcast
Good anllayies shaber zaidi highly recommend shaber zaidi every week come in raftar good job, team raftar Weldone
ji men bhi ap ki opinion se agree hn
As good as the Podcast is, I would like to give few clarifications. I am a budding politician and I meet with lot of people, and at times even from MEA(Foreign office). So I would like to provide inputs on the possibility of gas/crude pipe lines between India and Pakistan (IPI or TAPI). The real problem is of insurance and ownership. What will be the nature of entity that owns the Pipe Line? Would Pakistan be okay if an Indian company owns it? Who will insure such company? Can Pakistan bear the costs of Insurance? It will likely to run into over a $2 billion. Perhaps Indian firms could bear the cost, but it comes with its own terms. Would Pakistan be okay? Last but not least, Indians might not invest in such a company that has pipelines running through Pakistan. Indians might not buy gas from a company that has pipelines through Pakistan. If you ask me personally, I would rather pay ₹100 extra and buy a more "reliable" gas than from a company that is dependent on pipelines through Pakistan. Overall its very unlikely that pipeline will materialize. Add to that India is likely to switch to renewable/ electric to a large extent in next 10 years i.e. by 2035. Cheers and best wishes!
bay had bakwas baatein, bilkul aisay jaisay he is drunk. no new ideas. what he is feeding is some honey with horseshit. 😏
Mind your words @@dominom5848
Most awaited podcast. We request Raftar to invite him more frequently.
My favourite guest. Please do more frequent and longer episodes with him. And please do not restrict your conversations with Zaidi sahab to just mere politics and economy, explore his views and insights on religion and history, in more depth because unka mutall'a bohot wasi hai.
Host hi pagala hai , illetreated hai
Bhutto destroyed KARACHI economy by nationalized the private sector companies. Ayub KHAN moved the capital to Islamabad to help PUNJABI Pandus. MUSHRAFF was removed from power by Zardari to grab power. Great show.
Another boot polishiya..
Paks has always looked at the west of its border for prosperity , while the east is its 'legacy' a nation thats forgets its past has no future .
Absolutely!
Concise. Cogent. Lucid. @rj6404
you are right..... and i am afraid majority of us are still finding our roots from west.....
The western Pakistan gets its roads from west of Pakistan
The insecurity of the Muslim population with democratic system at the time of Independence and no visionary leadership led to creation of Pakistan…. Ended up to be a good deal for India. However a total population exchange at that time would have been better for India…The Muslim community left back in India was mostly poor and uneducated and still largely refuses to modernize and plays in the hands of rabble rousers and molvi types.
I watch the whole podcast whenever Shabbir Zaidi Sir is invited such an amazing personality and talks logic.
Trade was stopped by Pakistan not by India....after abrogation of 370....
Host has courage to ask questions but not to listen truth....when he realises he cannot argue more, he changes the topic....
And I have not seen single accounting book of shabbar zaidi in India as he claimed even though I am CA student
Indian Supreme has decided and sealed the fate of so called 'IOJ&K'. Pakistan never wanted a Solution, had always Politicised the issue.
Not iok only pok😊
Adam seeker 😊
He is right. Tum kabhi gaye india 🇮🇳😂😂😂
kab kaha kaunse time line pe
Haha Right 😂
1:25:29
Pakistan is the actual India. It has the Indus river. You guys are Bharat or VRAAAT.
@@kumarchanchal176
You might be jealous that you never had any system of school (Madrassa is literally school in Arabic). Nor any religion or clear identity. Even your current religious texts were unearthed or sketched by the foreigners.
بے خوف اور بیباک سچی باتیں ہی شبر صاحب کی وجہ شہرت ہے ۔۔
بہترین پروگرام
Bohot Sachi bat ki he 5 bando ka name lekar bad me bol diya me ye NAHI Keh Raha he 2 number pesa he 😂😂😂😂😂
India doesn't want the radicalized people of Kashmir. India wants GB.
GB is integral part of Pakistan just like other provinces
*POK
Yes we should exchange GB with radicalised state uttar pradesh
Mr.Avtar, place your "hand on your heart" and tell me if it's REALLY possible for India to take back ALL parts of POK?????!!!!!
@@nikhildeshmukh6221baba saahi kaar denge
There should be weekly podcast with zaidi sb. If u agree like my comment so zaftar must know what the audience want.
*Mr.Zaidi is right. The US will never let Pakistan disintegrate or die. Pakistan is their watchtower for China, Iran, Afghanistan and, of course, India.*
Never say Never esp when it comes to US. There are many possibilities that can come and you are only looking at one possibility. This is the same mistake that many of your generals have done. India does not have the courage to attack, so lets take k@shmir. But then the outcome comes out very different. B@loch is very sparsely populated, contributes very little to the consumption GDP - so separating that out and keeping the pressure on Iran's B@loch province is a VERY good possibility. Pakis have always been playing double game when it comes to their allegiance - earlier it was OK as china was also playing subservient to US but now they are not. So when it comes to picking sides, you cannot be double minded. Imagine the scenario when b@loch are a separate entity, they can be totally under the control of the US unlike Pakis which is compelled to play double game. This will help keep all 4 countries mentioned above under check and provide unlimited access to US, as and when they want. Beware of this possibility.
Hahaha yehi churm tumhri kaum ko khilate rehte hai😂😂😂
No, Pak is paltu dig of China.
Watchdog would be more apt😂
@@vineetdeorari8017 lol 🤣🤣
Shabbar sahab, i disagree with one comment.
Future is not crude oil. Future is electric, hydrogen and solar.
India is massively investing in electric. You will see the results in a decade.
Micro chip and nano chip used in AI, is the future. Nvidia the nano chip company has 2 trillion dollar industry, 1 trillion less than India. Soon it will surpass.
@@dewarkanath2853 yeah so thats why india also opened its first chip manufacturing industry in gujarat just wait for the results
Crude would always have a future unless we go to Stone Age after a devastating nuclear war.
Still you will need fuel . Electric is not going to replace the fuel need . It’s going to arrest it that’s it .
@@dg.mahiyt9018 this isn't India first.. please read the history of India and chips
Zaidiji's clarity of thought is superb. Another plus point is ,he talks straight.
I WILL NEVER MISS SHABBAR ZAIDI EPISODE. so glad he’s back!
Zaidi Sahab Is very Intelligent Person.God Bless Him !...
I always listen shabbar ji at any platform... Hm wo galti na kare jo Pakistan aaj tak karta aaya
super, super, super. Continue to invite him on Raftar on regular basis. Power of knowledge and command to present.
I have not enough words to thenks Raftar and Shabbar Zaidi. He should be parmanent member of Raftar.
Shabbar zaidi needs to be on raftaar regularly with this same host pls
Shabbir Zaidi each word his melody for my ears and deep go into mind❤❤❤❤ love u Sir u are true Treasury for this Country
Real Aalim-e-Deen
Real Economist
Real Accountant
Real Intellectual
Real Analyst
The One and only Mr. Shabbar Zaidi
لخ دی لعنت
😂😂
Heinnn
😂😂😂😂
@GaganSagar-wk1rz Your Father Johnny Sins 😂😂
Bahut badhia. Shabbar zaidi should be the regular guest. Love from india❤
Do u know abt k.u.f.r
Propaganda channel hai
Shabbar is very genuine and intelligent person...☺️
Then how come your name is 'the Hindu' ?
From hindukush mountain range to indu ocean 😂😂😂😂jahil converted maskeens @@hawkingdawking4572
Faisal great job ❤ Team Raftar keep Faisal with Sir Shabbar
The reason Pakistan developed before 80 was because Pakistan was run by Muhajirs.Pakistani son of soil were jealous, decided to destroy Muhajirs and Karachi and destroyed Pakistan as a result. Most muhajirs have since left Pakistan now and living very successful life in west.
Not true. Massive US aid 50s-60s for signing up to be US puppets. Mohajirs were UK puppets before 1947, changed masters after 1947.
Dear who became beneficiary? punjabi establishment doesn't wanted that any other community , person or entity become strong now they are only strong and making money pakistani Army is only running billion dollar business in pakistan , they don't care what they are doing with country they are making money their childrens families are settled in America they will flee one day as well when they sold pakistan
Pakistan's economy was sound due to American dollar spending. Those many were distributed in property, jihad, military and elites. It's called shadow economy it brust when America left afganistan. Period. What made in pakistan finished product Pakistan produces expect football and garments.
Ayub khan and bhutto were muhajir?
yes, this Mahajir bureaucracy was mastsrmind which then led to economic genocide of Bengalis in Finance/Planning ministeries both had officers from Indian Civil Sevice (Mahajir officers) and yes Bengalis were kickout of Pakistan.
Economic Genocide is something different started in 1950-60s which Mahajir officers were doing by sitting in ministeries, Don't confuse this with military action in 1971
Jo log bhe Mr. Shabbar Zaidi Sahab K Lye Negative Comments Krty Hain unka Education sy dur dur tak wasta nahe plus taleem yafta bhe nahe hain koi educational background ha tou vo bechary kya smjhy gy aik Intellectual Economist ke bat
I am sorry, but I did not find his points intelligent. He still thinks that Pakistan holds some kind of special geo location that it can bank on letting OPEC supply oil via pipeline to India.
1. India will never relay on such supplies where it passes through unstable & sanction prone countries.
2. India, UAE and KSA can run a pipeline under sea and they are well capable of protecting it, if that's the cheaper way of getting oil into India. The fact that it is getting oil without the pipeline is the cost of logistics still underweighs pipelines.
3. Even if it takes part in such pipeline projects that passes through Pakistan, it will not add any benefit to Pakistan’s economy. The examples are Estonia and Latvia. The Nord stream pass through the waters of these two countries but they are not richer because of those pipelines. Their economies are much smaller compared to other European countries.
The only way for any country to achieve economic success is to invest in its people and build a knowledge economy.
The army controls everything. The army invests in slaves. The politicians come second. The politicins try to install their own goons into every business and department and media house regardless of merit. The capitalists come later, they don't care about anything except making money. Finally there are the molvis, a lot of them still insist that the earth is flat and all of science is contained in a holy book.
Now that you know this, do you really think that Pakistan is a country that is worthy of your time and attention? This is a failed state that has no future. I am sure you have more important things to do than think and ponder over a failed state.
Only India can save Pakistan from itself. It did this in 1971 and can do so again.
And what about the Kashmir part , in that he is also wrong !
I am thoroughly enjoying the content! Every other video is just amazing. Just want to suggest one thing if you guys can consider adding timestamps for each topic discussed in the podcast? It would make it easier for viewers to navigate and find the segments they're most interested in. Keep up the great work!
Amazing interview! Well done Raftaar team
This guy is amazing. Always a pleasure to listen to such voices. I understand that in order to survive in 🇵🇰, Shabbar sahab and the likes have to take a soft tone on the military. But things are changing and people are talking more and more about that too. I never miss any of Shabbar sahab's podcasts.
Raftar is doing an outstanding service to the foolish people of Pakistan. We have been fooled very successfully for the last 75 years and this channel is doing its bit to undo that by focusing on "real journalism"
Their documentaries are very informative and rather than revolving around irrelevant religious, local and international trash, they focus on what wrongs we've been doing as a society and country and how we can transform into something useful in the future.
Big fan
More power to you
Pakistn cannot survive since its own army and ISI and its own politicians, are working to destroy it,
بہت ہی اعلی، درُست حقائق پر مبنی تجزیہ بمعہ حل مسائل پاکستان و بھارت پیش کیا ہے شَبر بھائی نے 😊
Hats of to this man he has tremendous knowledge n he is also a open mind person ,he knows how to differentiate between religion and business
raftar ki Jaan shabbar Jan. 90% people following you just because of shabbar zaidi
I just love this man
I am also much
Finally so good to see shabbar sb back.
Please invite him and bengali sb more often here.
I only watch economy content.
All in one shabbar zaidi saab.
Please invite him on your podcasts frequently.
zaidi sahab is right person in a wrong country.His views are refreshing and non rhetorical unlike 90% of pak intellectuals. Wish him all the best.
Once again a superb interview.
He should be called on regular basis however I feel he may be in danger as being a outspoken person n not leaving any person specially our jaali Mullahs
An eye opener for Indians, Pakistan still has rational voices left which speak what needs to be spoken in the interest of Pakistan ! India has no problems with Pakistan but due to your establishment playing dirty tricks we just don't want to have anything to do with you guys because we don't find you sane enough to behave rationally in even your own interest. Let more sane voices be heard and respected in Pakistan before we decide if we want to have anything to do with you
O really
Shabbar Sahab, an excellent speaker having crystal clear command over domestic and international concerns .I try every time to listen him, this open my mind to think at macro level.
Most awaited podcast of this channel
I think there shall be a podcast with shabbar sb every week!
His words are thought provoking regarding religion, india & geo politics!
To refine the crude thoughts we’ve been injected since decades, such refining podcasts are mandatory!
Thank You Faisal & Raftar for this!
Love this guy.
100% agreed.
These things only someone understands which at least travel around the world.
Can you take shabar zaidi live for online question answer session??
Syed Muzammil and zaidi is gem of Pakistan respect them if u want to prosper
Love u from khalistan
@@ketikteks *capital of khalistan was Lahore 🤣 we will be happy if there will be a khalistan*
@@ketikteksPakistan is khalistan. Let me tell you how.
Khalistan consists of two words. Khalis+stan
Khalis in gurmukhi is equivalent to pak in urdu.
Hence,
Pak+stan = Khalis+stan 😅
@@ketikteks hate u from Balochistan country 😂😂
@@ketiktekslove u from sindhudesh
Congrats once again to have a great show with my favourite personality MR Zaidi .
PURA SUCH TV BY Ahmed Azizi .
Shabbar b is a Living Legend. Each and Every answer is Logical and Practical. Behtreen,. Thank you Raftaar
It's stunning and refreshing to hear someone speaking truth to power in Pakistan . Shabbar Zaidi's clarity and the pulse on absolute truth is amazing.
جناب شبر زیدی صاحب آپ نے مالِ حلال کمایا، اور پھر مال کو خدا تعالی کی جگہ دل میں نہیں بسایا، آپ کی بے باک سچائی میں یہی برکت اور طاقت ہے!❤
Allah protect you and Shabbar Zaidi's life, itna open n true debate per Salaam. Magar kafi Jaga per yeh Karwa such wardi walon ko bardasht Nahi hoga
Shabbar Zaidi should keep talking. I can hear him for hours.
Same to me
Same to me
u should discuss secularism with him and topics much more like this bring him more frequently
WHAT A INTELLIGENT GUY.
-A- An. Kind regards to you and yours.
He is a prominent (perhaps the most prominent) Chartered Accountant of Pakistan. He is Shi'ite Muslim hailing from UP Allahbad, India. SYED WASIM RIZWI, Indian Shi'ite Muslim converted to Hinduism is one of his in-laws. He has remained my direct boss for 9.50 years from 2006 to 2016. Still He and me are in personal off and on contact. One Muslim Male Citizen from Karachi PAKISTAN.
Are you A Indian or an Pakistani
i am an indian living in usa. @@vinayaksharma8101
@@vinayaksharma8101 Boss, I was born on 18th September, 1963 in UP Bijnor. Thereafter, my late parents (then Indian citizens migrated to Pakistan for better economic prospects in 1964. Onwards to date I am a Pakistani citizen. I throughout was educated in Pakistan, did my service for my livelihood in Pakistan and ended up in the last phase of my service as a Government National Cardiac Hospital & Institute as Manager Accounts in Grade-17. Yes, back in 1967 and 1969, did I visit my place of birth - Bijnor, UP, India twice. Fact of the matter is that I happen to be an Indian-born Pakistani citizen, Urdu speaking, Karachi'ite. DHANYAVAAD 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you once again for bringing Shabbar Sahib to a podcast. Always looking forward to hear his thoughts
It is not just 4% of GDP spent on the military but rather 40% because Pak establishment also run businesses and became largest property owner in the country. Countries in the world have militaries but in Pakistan the Pak establishment owns the country and they they spent money at their will.
शब्बीर साहब जैसे लोगों की बहुत ही ज्यादा जरुरत है दोनों देशों के लोगों के लिए जो शांतिपूर्वक तरीके से कश्मीर का मसला हल करने के लिए ! ऐसे लोग ही लङाई न चाहकर सही हल चाहते हैं , फैसल भाई आप ही सोचिए कि लोग सिंगापुर में रहना चाहेंगे या कैन्या में ? 2019 के बाद जब धारा 370 हटने के बाद सिर्फ़ पाँच साल में जो हमारे कश्मीर में जो विकास हुआ है अगर 15-20 साल बाद तो POK में तो ग्रहयुद्ध छिङ जाएगा भारत में आने के लिए ! प्लिज सारे पाकिस्तानी भाई ठण्डे दिमाग से सोचे व शब्बीर साहब जैसे लोगों की कद्र करैँ !
You are right
Great Explaination 👍👍👍
Amazing podcast. Bring Shabbar Zaidi again to discuss Kashmir and Trade with India
Sabbar Sahab Bilkul Sahi Baat Kar Rahe hain, kisi ko Buri lage Ya achhi Lage Wo Alag Baat Hai 100% Right
No doubt this men is telling the truth and i read comments people saying "wah maza agya wah maza agya"pakistani qoum har jaga sir maze kar rahi hai and thats why Pakistan is own by IMF yes Pakistan is not a AZAAD coutry bewaqoof logon
The idea is to work hard and party harder
Lahoris never learned to work and their parties are horrible
Great man
Long live Shabr Sahb. You are an asset of this nation. Keep on your mission.
Aj Shabbar Sahab ny tabahai machadi excellent yar excellent 👌
یہ بندہ جیسا بھی ہے اپنی طرف سے سچ بولنے کی کوشش کرتا ہے اللہ تعالیٰ ان کو صحت کاملہ عطا فرمائے آمین
In ki Jan ki bhi hifazat farmaey
Very very intelligent person and a big think tank of Pakistan
Nyc video
Great Pod cast .. Nice Question & Answering
zaidi sab was a national hero of pakistan❤
How? hero or zero? Name his accomplishments?
Was or is ?
Abhi Zinda Hai
This guy knows the difference between Khilafat and malookiat
Do interview with him monthly once i am from south India
Good and pragmatic analysis by Mr Shabar Zaidi sb !
shabbar zaidi is a grat guy and a great intellectual
He is true ❤❤❤....full support for shabbbar shahab from Assam India ❤❤❤❤
India doesn’t need pipeline because India has already signed the nuclear agreement in 2010 for its energy need . So I guess this guy is still living in 90s, and second point why would India give key for its energy security to the hands of Pakistani with whom India fought multiple wars , I guess these people are delusional.
And third point the trade with Pakistan is Pakistan needs not India need , so India will not give any concessions on this . Coming to point of energy is that India is moving towards solar energy rather than fossil fuel, Indian govt is pushing the policy of having solar rooftop in every home and industry and ev vehicle , so till 2030 India’s 30 40 percent vehicle will be ev . So India doesn’t need pipelines from Pakistan .
TAPI project ka nam sune ho???
Search it
Pakistan has an alternative route for The India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC). It's up to India & USA whether they support it or not. Perhaps USA has more role in that. It will not allow CPEC & IMEC happening in Pakistan simultaneously.
Forex reserves 642 billion dollar hai india ke pas😂
@@oxsameer aaj ki tariq mein himmat hai toh amrika print kar ke dikhaye.. dollar.. corona me jo print kiya dollar wohi hi nahi sambhal raha.. u really have no clue about economy..
@@etvurdu Pakistan's involvement is a gone case now, CPEC is basically Chinese at Pakistani land that's it, China takes 91% of earned + loans and interest on Pakistan will properly use the left 9% after time being its America, you never know how many days they will let CPEC exist?
about IMEC, indian will not risk a single ruppee where Pakistan is involved, we need to know as much as America needs Pakistan to deal with IRAQ, IRAN, AFGHANISTAN & INDIA, it needs India more to counter CHINA, and by countering China you by-default counter Pakistan.
Excellent definition and interpretation by Zaidi SB.
Faisal please do more programs with him. I wish our people will listen to him and get some knowledge.
India and dubai planning to connect each other via train under sea.
please change the title " UNTOLD FUTURE OF DEEN ISLAM" rather then Untold Future of Pak -India Relations & Why USA Wants to Save Pakistan's Economy😎
Correct
Shabbar Zaidi
اللہ آپ کی حفاطت کرے، آپ سچ بولتے رہے ، کشمیر سے متعلقہ اآپ نے سچ بولا اور بولتے رہیے جو نہیں سمجھتے نہ سمجھے
Shabbar zaidi is the best ❤ always admired to see him speak unfiltered.
Shabbar zaidi is most intelligent, and brave men in pakistan. Always speaks with facts , he knows every historic event. HE SHOULD BE PRIME MINISTER OF PAKISTAN.
😂
Shabbar sir is great spiritual person.
Raftar TV doing great job. Spreading real authentic knowledge.
Thankful to you both.
❤❤
Welcome Shabbar Zaidi Sahib.
Shabbar Zaidi is among few with sense in Pakistan.He is not among those who change their opinions overnight to fit the circumstances.🇮🇳
We met again
SHABBAR ZAIDI IS A VERY WISE MAN. PLEASE LISTEN TO HIM. A VERY PRACTICAL MAN. I LIKE YOU AND I WISH I COULD MEET YOU.
یہ بھی بتا دے کس ادارے نے قوم کو بتایا 75 سال سے کہ انڈیا ہمارا دشمن ہے 😂 آج وہی ادارہ انڈیا سے دوستی کا مختلف لوگوں سے پروپگنڈہ کرائے گا 😅😂
Wo idara India me DHA bana kar paisay bananay ke khawab dekh raha hai.
What a brilliant analysis by Shabber zaidi. 👍
It is not only India that says that POK needs to be vacated by Pakistan. It is the UN resolution that Pak swears by that says that pak needs to get out of POK. India needs to reduce forces only so much that they can then conduct the referendum. Arguments of Pakistanis is always misinformed.
We are MUSAFIQS .. moral of the story !!!
Sir...please ask him whether he will form a political party in near future....
He is too old honestly
You can see how his voice cracks
Though i feel he should groom youngsters who might for once in Pakistan history start to work for a living
Worth watching thanks to @Raftar Team
Shabbar Zaidi has some honest & fresh ideas! Thank you for interesting podcast,
I’m from Lahore, Pakistan ❤✅🇵🇰 I left Islam after reading Quran and listening Zafar Heretics, Adam Seeker, Sahil Bhai and Harris Sultan. I’m happily Ex-Muslim Now….❤🇵🇰✅….❤
Good for you
😂
@@talhahassan2649Thanks ❤
Shabbar Hussain Zaidi Sahib you're absolutely right
Stay blessed ❤
Very realistic interview
Syed muzammil shah ko aur shabbar zaidi ko sath bulao Maza aaye gaa
FDI investment in Pakistan in 2022---$1.3 billion
FDi investment in India in year 2023---$73 billion