Economic History of Pakistan 1987 - 2008 - Shocking Revelations - Khurram Husain - TPE 363
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Khuram Husain comes back on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Economy of Pakistan from 1987 to 2008. On this deep dive podcast, Khurram Husain presents some shocking revelations
on why India's Economy succeeded in the 90s while Pakistan's floundered, and how Musharraf destroyed the Economy.
What is the Economic price Pakistan has paid for dictatorship?
How did 9/11 change Pakistan's Economy?
Did Musharraf destroy the Economy before handing it over to PPP in 2008?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
Khurram Husain is the former Editor at Profit. He is a Business and Economy journalist and columnist and has written for Dawn, Express Tribune and Emerging Markets among others.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Amnesty Schemes and the Financial Elite
7:30 Experience of Economic Growth in the 1960s
14:31 Was West Pakistan fueled by exploiting East Pakistan?
17:30 Economic Crisis of the 1990s
25:30 1990s in Pakistan and the Bureaucracy vs Nawaz Sharif
37:30 Were Nawaz Sharif's Economic policies similar to Narsima Rao's in India?
46:50 The 1997 Nawaz Sharif Government
52:30 1999-2001 Pre 9-11 Economic Management of Musharaf
59:10 9/11, General Pervez Musharaf and Bloody Civlians
1:15:00 Political and Economic Management of General Pervez Musharaf and Mushkil Faislay
1:27:00 Stock Market, State Bank and Inflation in the 2000s
1:38:00 Pakistan and the Global Financial Crisis
1:44:30 PPP Government 2008-2013 and Extremism
1:54:00 Audience Questions - Розваги
Regarding 1.03 army role in natural disaster.. I was in India when major floods happened in my hometown, army came & worked tirelessly, we appreciated them but they never complained & never asked civilians to be grateful.. We are grateful/Appreciate our army.. but the most I am grateful for is our ‘constitution’😅 🇮🇳
Absolutely..
God bless your ex Pm Nehro
@@fareedmalik6413 Nehru didn't make constitution..
It was Ambedkar who made indian constitution..
Though our laws have lots of faults but still it has saved India from becoming Pakistan..
Why this postmortem and mutual hatred for others ?
Economy growth in the 60's was because of Bangladesh from where you looted the resources and money, what was Pakistan manufacturing back then?
Nothing.. just joined CEATO and SENTO for benefits. Once it became irrelevant didnt know what to do.
@Cjahaga I am from South India lol.
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@@Cjahaga hehe. Emergency ispr troll😂😂😂
I AM MAHAJAR FROM INDIA, MY FAMILY ESTABLISHED "BECO" WHO WAS MANUFACTURING MANY THINGS FOR EXAMPLE VERY "DURABLE BICYCLE, SABAN SAB BOUGHT HIS OWN CAPITAL WHICH WAS GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS PUNJABI PARTNER". BECO STANDS FOR "BATALA, ENGINEERING CO. DO NOT OPEN YOUR TRAP WITHOUT INVESTIGATING. BANGALIES WERE OUR FAMILY FRIENDS.
The gentleman is a natural born storyteller! Enjoyed the history lesson.
He’s the best
CORRECT YOUR SELF, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, STORY TELLING,HISTORY, AND FACTS.
@@ThePakistanExperiencethe best propagandist in Pakistan?
An intelligent person like Khurram Hussain to say that the subcontinent did not have mixing of people from various regions and languages before the 1960s is really sad. He needs to read about the trading routes of Uttarapath and Dakshinapath, which met at Kashi. He needs to study the economic impact of the Kumbha mela, a gathering of crores of people, including merchants, which happens every 12 years, since at least 2,600 years. You can pick up the 1st century BC Sanskrit play "Mudrarakshas" set in 3rd centry BC Bihar, and see the diversity of origin of the people of Patliputra, and number of Prakrit languages variants people spoke. There is so much evidence of varieties of people mixing all across the history of India, that you can find it in almost every piece of literature - presence of Kabul traders in Bengali dramas of 14th century. Astrology Pandits who studied at Takshashila serving Kings of the Vijanagar Empire in far south. Such ignorance in Pakistani intellectuals is truly sad.
the fact that the indian sub-continent have some many variations in a single language, so much so that it’s hard for two groups to communicate with each other, would suggest that over the complete span of time in which people settled on this land different groups of people mixed. but for the majority of it’s history there has always large empty spaces between urban centres and non permanent garrisons, so it’s more than likely that a generation of people would loose those connections after they get replaced by the next one.
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Bro you're either deliberately misinterpreting hus point of you lack the context to understand. Are you really comparing "trade routes" to mass rural-urban migration where entire demographics of regions and cities were being changed ethnically and culturally? Be serious man.
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There has been significant mixing and especially touring around the subcontinent, especially among traders to sell their goods. In the Tamil Sangam period (Golden age of Tamil lands), which is around 200 to 300 BC, the city of Madurai (exists in the same name today) had traders from as far as Rome, Egypt, Ethiopia, Greece and Arabia trading there with people from various parts of India, who brought along their own goods to sell at a port in the middle of the ancient maritime trade network. Now to get to the deep south of India, one would have to cross thousands of kilometres and various urban cities. Mixing was far more widespread than what we think of today, especially among the trader castes. When it comes to Northwestern India (Kamboja, Punjab, Kashmira, Gandhara, Dardara, etc...) you add in the element of frequent foreign invasions, which would mix the local melting pot up even more but through violent means. That doesnt mean there hasnt been far flung movement across the subcontinent.
I know you probably wont take credibility out of Hindu figures, but Adi Shankaracharya was a man born in what is today Kerala, and travelled as far as modern Kashmir Valley, Upper Uttarakhand, banks of the Indus River (Taxila), Maa Kamakhya Temple in Assam, the base of Mount Kailash in Western Tibet and everywhere in between to "reconvert" people back into the Hindu faith from Buddhism, which was the dominant religion in the entire subcontinent at the time. There are inscriptions in both ancient Hindu temples and Buddhist Viharas on the intellectual debates he had with various Kings and scholars on Dharma, Karma and religion, and these accounts were by multiple independent kingdoms across the subcontinent dating back to the same time period. How do you think the teachings of Buddha spread across the subcontinent from modern Bihar? People moved around far more than we think back then.
@@hammadhussain3082 Did you read my post at all? Hussain was making a point that for the "first" time in history of subcontinent, people from diverse linguistic and cultural backgrounds were living next door in 1960s. And I was rebutting that. There are stories and plays written over 1000s of years showing that it has always been the case in cities. There are Astronomy Scholars born in Taksashila, who lived all of there lives in Ujjain and Vijaynagar - in 2nd and 14th century AD - with intact treatise and written biographies. There are Nyaya Scholars of 17th century born in Andhra Pradesh, who studied lived and wrote books in Kashi. There are thousands of such examples. I mentioned Uttarapatha and Dakshinapatha because it is common knowledge to every educated Indian child that the intra-Indian migration has been happening on these routes since 2nd millennium BCE. And if you want to study the churn in ethnicity and culture due to institutions like teerthas - you should read the works of R C Majumdar, Sitaram Goel and most importantly Dharampal. All of which are serious scholars of history and politics, not semi-literate frauds like Hussain.
TATAS MIGRATED FROM KARACHI TO INDIA BECAUSE OF THE LOVING ATTITUDE OF "MUSLMEEN OF KARACHI" PARSIS ARE LEFT. I THINK ONLY ONE FAMILY , I THINK THEIR PROPERTIES "AS USUAL" WILL BE TAKEN AWAY BY VADERAS OF SINDH OR INFLUENTIAL URDU SPEAKERS(FACE IT, IT IS NNOT HATE, THESE ARE TRUE FACTS OF HISTORY".
Which year did they migrate in? I thought the Tata family for a long time was based out of Jamshedpur
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After his mother's death, Ratanji Dadabhoy Tata decided to move his family to India and sent J. R. D. to England for higher studies in October 1923. He was ...
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After his mother's death, Ratanji Dadabhoy Tata decided to move his family to India and sent J. R. D. to England for higher studies in October 1923. He was ...
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@@vignesh1065 When did Tata family come to India?
The Tata ancestors were part of a large group of Parsis who left Persia for India in the 8th century. One of the chief centres chosen by them to settle in was Navsari in Gujarat. It was here that the Tata family lived for more than twenty-five generations as priests.
It is a sorry state of affairs in Pakistan. I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel. I think the blame is squarely on the army . The politicians should stop playing into the army’s hands . The day that happens Pakistan will be free .
Excellent discussion. Those funny interjections are brilliant and absolutely necessary. I don't think India ever offered to help the US. PM Vajpayee took it to the parliament where it received limited support, mainly from BJP members. Although Mr Vajpayee was personally against it, had it been a BJP majority government, India perhaps would have gone in. All regional parties and left parties hate the United States. They saved us.
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I wanted to make the same point. From what I remember, I don't think we ever agreed, while the US requested.
Shehzad, great show. I watch your shows with great interest. You bring the best in Pakistan, and you have the knack of bringing out the best in them - from Bhubaneswar, Odisha, India.
Finally you got the second part. What took you so long?
Huge fan of Khurram - knowledgeable, nuanced, articulate and insightful. As important as what he speaks about is the fact that when asked about areas that are not his core competence, he has the integrity to say I don’t really know about it.
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Khurram Husain is right that Narasimha Rao govt brought in the reforms gradually with long term in mind and built non-tarrif barriers : small example: Pepsi was allowed but was told to have prefix or suffix to the brand name so it was : Lehar Pepsi...
Ind Suzuki ( bikes) Hero Honda... Etc..😊
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Idea of prefix/ suffix to a multinational brand was to make the companies owning the brands to "develop" Indianness in the multinational brands...( Right or wrong is debatable...) And not give them a 'free run"... Although the rule was taken off soon...
This gentleman is suggesting that the pakistani elite has some kind of plan or sincerity towards the nation as a whole. This isnt the case. We have an import mafia that have always been for their own interets favoured imports over exports as they personally benefit from the corruption levied on these imports.
@catfish9391 they were not just optics.. these collaborations gave a transfer of power and technology.. these made Indian brand compitative in the long run .
Hero was a small cycle manufacturing plant in Punjab.. now is the largest 2w manufacturers after splitting with Honda.
Same with laher . Wipro or tata etc... these all were possible because of forced collaborations of access to the market policy
Pakistan started with this but never took the next step
@@umeshnaidu buddy do you really believe on national and international level it is like running a mom and pop shop.. where you give names for the optics.. they are legal entity that had IP in their own name..
@@umeshnaiduThe idea was the multinational brands need to work with Indian brands so that they will also grow. For example Hero Honda, now that they have parted ways, Hero is its own brand.
Zabardast episode hai .. thank you
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I have a question: if Ishaq Dar is still the proponent of GIKs policies then what was the fallout about? Wouldnt Nawaz Sharif have appointed someone else as the top economy guy if he himself did not believe in that approach?
Excellent show. waiting for part 3
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Thanks for giving such an explicit thought and views
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A Overseas Pakistani understands India more than anyone else is no other than "Uzair Younus". Once the Indian Elections get over and Results declared by 4th JUNE, Please have another Podcast with "Uzair Younus" on how MODI's 3rd Term will affect South Asian Region. As India is already a $4Tn economy and before end of this Decade it will be $6Tn atleast overtaking Germany/Japan as well. so his Inputs are much needed.
Seriously??? What are his credentials?? Do uzair really know India like u r propogating ?? It doesn't seem so - he is giving only statements without any supporting Data or fact checked!! So ,can U highlight some data which he gave that hold true for India or Indian economy
@@taneemtaha4230 see his podcast last week in the same channel
Sir इतनी sincerely भी discussions होते हैँ???very very good podcast. Hats off to you sir.
The ones who keep speaking the truth despite knowing the consequences fully well, are the ones to be respected.
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Kudos to both of you
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Shahzad i loved your Sanjay dutt meme : "us raat apun raat kay 2 bajey taak piya, maujey hi maujey" when Khurram said Colin Powel said " we need to re-connect with our friends in Pakistan Army "....it was too good 😊
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Very informative podcast, thank u shehzad,i think every indian should watch this.
Before watching the video, I can guess what they will discuss:
- how pakistan was growing the fastest in its zamana
- how things turned red due to this reason
- what India did and how they got ahead
- IF, pakistan does this and fixes this, it will become a superpower
If you guys were richer than China till 1999, and now are even half of India in terms of per capita gdp, bro you dont celebrate that we were good back then, you should cry.
Oh boy oh boy are you new to our channel 🤣
@@ThePakistanExperience atleast I am commenting ;) I would watch parts of the video.. and if you want more comments, include something controversial intentionally on ur vids..
The toolkit of every Pakistani video
Quite a poor guessing skill.
Amazing podcast! why did you cut him off in the end 5 Ghante ki podcast bhi sun lete😔
Part 3 soon
What's up with the buzzer going in the background as if industrial level cutting is going on
The guy at the other hand seems to have drunk 3 to 4 Redbulls! Before coming at the Venue of broadcast😂😂
Who was the head of the board of investment in the PPP govt during their govt from 1993 to 1996?
From time to time , the pakistan " establishment" decides to tell the Political class :
Paray hato , you don't know how to run the country , the economy , we will do it better than you "
Then they destroy it
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Because that's not their job .
In the movie 300 , Leonidas asks the Arcadian Army " what's your profession ? "
" I'm a Potter "
"I'm a Sculptor"
" I'm a Blacksmith"
So just as these guys won't be as efficient in War as trained soldiers , so will the soldiers be at these professions .
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@@ThePakistanExperienceand politicians are given the titanic after it collided with iceberg. And the loop continues
My favorite guest , whenever i see Khurram hussain talking. I stop everything and focus on him. Shehzad, please have part 3 earlier and part 4 on future as well. Thank you
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Khurram Hussain sahib aur Shahbaz Rana sahib ..... Bahut hi Shaandaar Kaam kartey hain .... 🙏👍🙏👍
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I have been watching pakistani media for the last 3 to 4 yrs and I can say military is the big problem for your country. How to get rid of its interference is the big question. Anyways as usual nice podcast . Good Luck shezad
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That is not possible. Maybe all becoming ex-Muslim may impact the military.
@vinsin328 it wont. Pak army owns the country so they wont like to loose power irrespective of religion
Thank you captain obvious. We would never have guessed it.
Great stuff. Keeo it up.
Please bring a show on the UA-camrs of Pakistan - their nefarious financing, the teams that provide them their teflon coating and finally keep them supplied with views, likes and subscribers.
And I am talking of all the Pakistani UA-camr jingbang cottage industry.
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There is a weird sound behind the background . Please, next time, try to set it up .
Loved it. Waited for this episode for a long time
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1:22:59
Every kid from 2008 to 2013 knew that there is some1 called Shamshad Akhar in SBP,now we know why😂
Context:as kids in schl we use to talk about Shamshad Akhar Signature mark on all notes.
-Imagine The number of notes printed during her 3 years tenure that most of notes used for next 10 years were majoritly from her tenure.pov.
One should ask Khurram husain how logical it is to compare "thousands of years of economic reality" of pre industrial states and post industrial states?
Let's go, just finished watching podcast with uzair younus . Now for some Khurram Husain time
1:07:43 why does he roll his rs like "phirrrrrr" at the end. Not that I'm complaining cuz it's low key sexy af imho
Very good discussion Shehzad. Thankfully you have talked about Musharraf era in detail.
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Kargil, America and Jehad; What is General Pervez Musharraf's legacy in Pakistan?
ua-cam.com/video/R0Uzgx1x8mE/v-deo.html you might like this too
Another great episode. 👍👍👍
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21:26 so that's how you pronounce Ceausescu
"Chow-Shus-Que"
Chai chuski, keep it simple
@@PG-ys4ri 😂😂
This is a first. Latest Uzair Younus podcast gets forwarded in my college friends' group. Mr Younus is becoming a genuine star in India.
Kaun si sasta Nasha karte ho yaar and why spread false statements.. us podcast main itna jhooth bola gaya hai ki - it should be reported!! STOP THIS DRAMA
And listen Indian students don't have time to waste on such propaganda videos!! So stop spreading false Narrative
Bhai if we want to research we go towards newspaper articles of that era and sometimes books that to in pdf form
@@taneemtaha4230I did not comment on the quality of data or analysis - which was average at best. Second this is not a group of present college students but people who went to college together and passed out in 1978.
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Next time tell your guest to put his/her cell phone on "Silent" rather than "Vibration"
thumbnail was very good
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BRILLIANT PODCAST❤❤
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"Bilkul Sookhy" was my moment from this podcast
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For 2 decades, I used to be a huge fan of Pervez Hoodbhoy. He spoke about things he truly was an expert on - science, higher education in Pakistan, the lived reality of ordinary citizens as non-state actors like TTP, TLP were created and lauded. His appeared to be the rare voice of sanity that questioned the water car.
But then he has started speaking about things he doesn’t understand and just picks up talking points of Islami-leftists in India. He doesn’t understand Hinduism but speaks about it, not with a spirit of enquiry but rather condescension. He doesn’t understand the new education policy of India but says that Modi government is against STEM. Huh? Number of patents approved in India has risen from 9,000 per year in 2015 to 100,000 a year in 2023; ISRO budget has been quadrupled; private sector has been allowed in space; Digitalization of the economy is transforming life. I am not saying you cannot criticize PM Modi. But there needs to be a spirit of enquiry to understand why he is so popular. It is not just about support for Hinduttva which no doubt is a factor - but it is not the only factor or even the main factor for his support.
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Part II for 2 hours?
Very interesting analysis of Pakistan's economic history.
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Was eagerly waiting for part 2.❤❤❤ khurram is a great story teller and very very informed one.
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Really?? The same khurram history record starts from the Mughal and he doesn't know what was Indias gdp contribution to the world before the invasion of both British as well as islamic
@@taneemtaha4230 it is like glorify themselves as who saved all
Beautiful talk. Just watched Ahmad Iqbal's podcast. Good stuff. Keep it up.
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Excellent podcast
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Finally after 18 months wait is over❤❤❤ hope tpe team will do 3rd part sooner 😊
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Yar shahzad bhai intrupt na kiya krien guest ko suny diya krien ya intrupt krien to unko bat pr wapis laya krien jo suny waili bat hti hai wo ap k intrupt krny sy skip ho jati hai.
Liked the podcast cause the guest was citing references.
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Headless conversation
Government to koi nahin aie, although the establishment is not entirely to blame for that, every democratic government that has come has only followed one agenda, make you and your friends happy and wealthy, only that, nothing else. Only exception is pti, and that only because ik doesn't care about money, at least not for the sake of money itself. Everyone else, fill your pockets while you can
What was Toshakana Case then? Amnesty on London Properties?
Kargil war military victory political loss? Ummm. I don't think Pak won the Kargil war.
That is what is said, so what is your argument?
Absolutely loved it .Appreciate your work
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Sir its been a while since you called Sir Ishtiaq Ahmed. Please invite him once again.
Don’t think that’ll ever happen again
@@ThePakistanExperienceWhy would you say that ? Those were one of the best podcasts you’ve ever done, filled with so much knowledge.
@@ThePakistanExperiencewhy?
@@ThePakistanExperience but why.
Kya Pakistan army ne dhamki de di hai?
Is he dead?
Shahzad I really like your content but its getting repetitious, i used to get excited to see your upload notification now i know it will be same old colonialism,1971 war , dictatorships, identity crisis i feel there is alot of monotony in it or maybe its just that i have consumed all of your content. Have some fun podcasts too bro
Sure bro. Kuch different karta hoon soon. Though I do think lots of work Khurram Hussain said was new to me. We’ve never broken down what happened to the economy during Musharrafs era like this.
Plz invite Mr Bashani on the podcast on kashmir issue.... Plzz plzz
Bhai thoda hath haula rakho
We want to see more podcasts from you😅
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Chaoushiscu did lot off things for his country but he was dictator is tru
One can keep on talking and talking...but without fundamental change in attitude ofyour society at large, you will remain same
First, start feeling ashamed and humiliated' in begging.
Try living within your means
Jizya is not begging. Hmm... Indian society is also not rational and has food terrorism attitude in the society.
@@vinsin328nd begging from saudis,imf what will that be called then.
Baaki sab toh theek hai lekin ye carpenter ki awaaz bahot aa rahi hai😂
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Neighbours
Ek Podcast science pe karo please. Maybe around fuels of the future and where the subcontinent stands.
There is no fuel in the future.
Ok
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Indian parliament passed a unanimous resolution against American invasion of Iraq
Very good step
NO ONE WILL EVER TOUCH U,IF THEY DO THEY WILL GET IT BACK "3 TIMES". MY PRAYERS FOR YOU.
Aap Shakil Chaudhary ko bula kar podcast karein.
Next time I am in Islamabad
Shahzad ghayas Rizwan Razi urf Razi Dada ko bhi Economic journalism pe bulao. Apko bhi maza aye ga interview kar k.
Shahzad's myopia regarding Karachi and his problems with the city and its inhabitants clouds his otherwise rational discourse.
What are my problems with my city
@@ThePakistanExperience thora sa Lisani angle aajata hai, subtle. Maybe something to think about.
Nahee samajh mai aya kya kehna chah rahay hain? Watch the video I posted today, might help you understand my views of the middle class regardless of their ethnicity
Pakistan economy will improve if it stops using dollars and start using Saudi Riyal
The episode with Uzair Younus was a treat, can't wait to listen to this episode.
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This is just as good
REALLY?? CAN U TELL ME WHAT AUTHENTIC INFO U GOT FROM THAT video
Shahzad bhai you need to hesitate xD
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Bengalis were in forefront of industry, literature, commerce, noble prize, independence movement,
But, you hated them.
West Pakistan only had agriculture and they always joined invaders in looting Delhi.
After, 1947, loot has stopped and YOU ARE IN FINANCIAL MESS😅
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Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. The discussion around Pakistan of 90s and 2000s is DOMINATED by local + geo + international political discourse and nobody dares to discuss the economic issues of these decades. Thank you so much Khurram for educating millennials like myself. Hats off!
PS. I hope your podcast reaches more sane Indians. Currently the comment section is filled with dumb af youthiye types who have been fed anti-pak propaganda and they don't even realize how stupid they sound.
When a country has started 3 wars with you (1965, 1971, 1999) and conducted a covert war through terrorism for 30 years, when your city is attacked by your country as my beloved Mumbai was, when every attempt at peace whether by Vajpayee, Manmohan or Modi has been stymied through war and terrorism; you don’t have to be stupid or a victim of propaganda to be alienated.
Part 3 plz🫶
PAKISTAN CAN NEVER DEFEAT INDIA IN MANY FIELDS NOT ONLY WAR WHICH THEY NEVER WON AGAINST INDIA.
Only Imran Niazi formula of Riyaste Madina can Work for economy glory in Pakistan...
fun fact : On 12 Oct 1998 Pakistan had only 5 days of reserve left. Pakistan according to PVT itself was only 7 days away from declaring bankruptcy. What surprises me is that people still have audacity to compare Musharraf with PPP/PMLN !!!! these jokers (PPP/PMLN/PTI) brought Pakistan back to bankruptcy within 10 years.
Also unhealthy obsession with manufacturing sector will not take you any where. Value creation is only in none-tangible asset's monetization and in service sector (add agriculture to it too). Focusing on manufacturing sector will further screw up economy. people like Khurram Husain are prehistoric dinosaurs who have not grown beyond 60s. they are still living in stone age.
in case if you are wondering about bankruptcy in 1999, it was announced on business plus show on 10 Oct 1999. which used to come after PVT News.
Pakistan's economy improved during Musharraf Era.
No need to beat the drums on useless stories. Nobody acts when it is the right time. Always beating about the bush.
جب آپ دونوں انگریزی بات کرتے ھیں ایسا لگتا ھے کے پٹھان اردو مے بات کررہا ھے۔
Syed Muzammil Shah
Fully agree with you Shahzad on the bravery of Parvez Hoodbhoy....for stating facts and facing a barrage of criticism...
Yes!
I guess this was the first podcast where shahzad doesn't seem to be intelligently following the conversation points generated by the guest. And the tequila joke was very boring.
No issues. Everyone can have an off day.
Fair. Meray ko toh acha laga tequilla joke laikin 😂
Audience is mostly hindi/urdu but the guest is like explaining economy in english acting like a teacher.
ہمیں ہماری زبان میں سمجھا میرے بھائی۔۔
Plan to tha, iq 50 per tha
Was Pakistan ever a normal state? They were always destined to fail. Total hypocratic views
MOST IMPORTANT PAKISTAN IS FORGETTING ABOUT "FAMILY PLANNING", BENAZIR DID GOOD JOB BUT MULLAHS LIKE TARIQ JAMIL TURNED AGAINST IT . EVEN SALT WITH IODINE. IMPROVE YOUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.
Shezad Bhai munafaqat kerdi apne yehi pe agar socialism and Bhutto mention ho jata toh ap samne wale ko bolne nahi dete. Like ishrat Sahab.
Karachi, PPP, PTI and the Supreme Court Judgment against Imran Khan - Jibran Nasir - #TPE 338
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Poor economy v even poorer economy
Hr baat pa arstu bany hwe apke guest shazad bahi. Jb baat asid umar oar angro ki ae to en ka gala hushk ho gya oar English sa help leni pari eny 😂😂😂 hypocrisy on its level
This guy is an economist? It is a joke when he says Pakistan was doing very good till 80s with 6% growth rate. He doesn't know that GDP rate was not due to industrial growth but due to American dollars and foreign aid. It looks he has not done his homework. Pakistan had to go to IMF first in 1958 and they have been begging since then every 3 to 5 years for 23 times.
He is forgetting India got IMF help only once that to in 1991 not between 60 to 90 when this guy is boasting of Pakistan economy.
Pervez Hoodbhoy to genZ - You wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.
Apt
What ever rubbish he talked for two hours that he also dont know .. is somebody understand anything useful to earn one rupee.
Why do I always see a bias for PPP in your podcasts shezaday?
Hamid mir 2.0 😅
Because you have a bias and you see that from that angle
State vs Politics; How Elite Capture works in Pakistan - Two Pakistans - Shehzad Ghias #TPE
ua-cam.com/video/MaI6nsqW_GI/v-deo.html explained here. Will anyone tell you this about zab other than me!
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