I love these tires. I just got them on my SYM JET X 125 and it solved the handlebar wobbling problem. It behaves entirely differently. They are the next best thing to apple pie.
@@crow01098 I no longer have the jet x. The reason is a long story, but at the end of this month, I'm getting the SYM HD 300. The top box in the back is what you're referring to which did not make a difference. Whether I had it on or off the tires that came from the factory do not last very long. when I put the Michelin city grip 2 The behavior of the vehicle changed quite a bit for the better! Aerodynamically it is my opinion that the box in the back makes a bit of a difference, but nothing noticeable. Having a top box in the back does not determine whether or not you need to change the tires on the bike. Behavior of the bike specifically the unsteady handlebars is your indication that you need to change your tires. Some more expensive bikes may come with Michelin's or Melingers, so that is encouragement enough to spend a little bit more money and get that more expensive bike that has those tires. specifically for the SYM Jet X you need to go to your dealer (or do iy yourself if able and so inclined) and get the special plate for the particular model bike in order to mount a top box. Beware that the top box compatible with the monolock plate is a monolock top box. Hope this helps.
Very , very good presentation ! I have always been a Michelin fan since 50 years . If you know their story you would be one too . It starts with the steel cable used in all their tires . No other mfg. has the knowledge to make tiny diameter CABLE as opposed to simply wire rope . Michelin has the valuable patent and the highly secret technique in fabricating this small diameter cable which gives all Michelin tires their world leading strength . Point #2 is that all Michelin road tires are first and foremost designed to be absolutely the best , safest in the rain . That in a nutshell is why I only put Michelin on all my motos and cars as well .
I did not know about the steel cable part, and in terms of the their performance i too firstly look for the rain performance because that's when you really need to be able to trust your tires, when you get caught in a rainstorm far away from home and you want to make it home safely.
2016 Sym HD 200 with 4 year old Michelin City Grips, balanced, etc. Question: Why when I hit a bump in the road and not even a serious bump, seconds later I will feel the bars / front end start doing a kind of mild weaving action. Is the air in the front tire(s) going through some re-settling or something like that? The City Grips installed in 2019 at 13k miles. Current miles at 20k. Time for new tires? Thanks Dean Seattle
@@dean3434 lol its definitely not the "air resettling", it sounds like a regular wobble, maybe your fork bearings are too loose causing your handlebars to move too freely
Ali, I loved this vid. I own a new Grom and have given up my car. So yea I'm full time. Even though I'm 70 YO I have been riding for 50 years. I'll keep your vid in mind.
+1 for the City Grip 2-s, I have it as factory-fitted tyres on my current 300 scooter, they are very good. I had the City Grip 1-s on my Honda PCX before, ride it for 6 years, it was perfect, and it had nearly no sign of wear after 20k km-s.
Super material. I use these tyres on a small 125cc motorbike. They perform brilliantly even in minus 5 degrees. Like you, I use this machine all year round. Cold, hot, wet and dry. Excellent choice, so you say - very easy, confident handling of the motorbike.
Great video 👍I’m convinced to put these on my fat wheel ebike as I love riding in all weathers. Also they are the go to’ tire upgrade I’m seeing performance ebike shops making to their bikes.
I have these on my Genuine Roughhouse 50. I love them! SO much more sure footed. I just bought a Honda ADV 150. I'm thinking I might just change out the stock rubber within the first few months. I looked them that much.
Hi Alex… thanks for the explanation, appreciated… I have asked the dealer, to fit the Michelin City Grip 2 tyres on my just ordered brand new Sinnis Hero-X 125 scooter… Can’t wait to drive from the dealer with the new scooter and with those Michelin tyres, all the way through the Scottish highlands back home. Take care and enjoy it all.
Great tire tutorial! Always something to learn, of course I always pay more for tires hoping they’re better(?), (you made me feel better about it).👍🏻😆Michelin City Grip 2 it is‼Best Rola (Oregon / USA)
Glad you mentioned the profile. Just had a pai of city grip 2s fitted and feels different . Like the bike will tip into a corner very easily. It needs a bit of riding toget used to that. Old tyres were dunlop scoot smart and didnt feelike this.
Thanks for this!! After waiting for months for them to arrive in Australia, I've now got the City Grip2's on my SYM Symphony 200T. I have the first rear tyre in OZ! :). I can't wait to get out onto the backcountry roads around here! Cheers, mate!
Yes, I do all year round diving on my scooter, And I live in Scotland 🏴 part of the UK , yes it snow's as well lol 😂 🤣 😂 I do agree with your pick of tires, And what you are saying, Kind Regards James fae (from) Scotland 🏴 👍 🙂
This was so useful! I just bought an xtown 300 and im very happy with it but the Lenda tires ot comes with are really rubbish on wet weather. This was exactly what i needed, a well balsnced tire in sll conditions and a lot safer than the stock ones. Thank yoy so much!
@@RideWithAlex nice to hear that! I'm going to buy a pair of City grip 2 next week to fit on the scooter. Running 98% asphalt and only occasionally short distance on gravel. I'm riding it in all weather conditions, so the grip needs to be there every day 😎
In SoCal most scooter riders take a very long time to cover miles, rarely see used scooters for sale with over 10,000 miles on them regardless of how many years old, last year picked up 2015 & 2018 Vespas with >1000 miles on them and another 2018 with >2000 miles.
@@RideWithAlex The tires grip the asphalt very well. They also behave quite well on wet surfaces. This is especially important because my PCX does not have ABS. I also have a City Grip 2 in a Honda Forza. I have similar impressions.
Nice presentation. I have Michelin city grip on my Gilera Nexus 250 for 7 years now. I don't ride in winter. They are still ok. How long is the life of these tyers? Shold I change it? Regars, Igor
Why is it the Rear Tire City Grip 2 of my Scooter only it Wears on the Left Side?.. Is there a recommensed PSi for the City Grip 2 or should I follow the PSi recommended on the Scooter Manual.. Its still on 3000 KM on used.. Pls help
I don't know the exact specifications of the stock tires on my Jet14 125cc, but they should be CST standard. Overall, I am happy with them, but the handling in corners feels like it happens in two stages. It's hard to describe, but it's as if you have to overcome a small barrier before leaning further. Do any of you guys experience this too? I've only ridden on these CS tires and one new set of Pirelli AngelCity tires(on my KTM Duke200) , so I don't have many comparisons. However, I'm planning to try Michelin or Dunlop tires next. I've had a great experience with Dunlop RT tires on my car about eight years ago or more.
I just switched from Yamaha Tricity 300 to a XMAX 300. The XMAX is on City Grip 2s and the feel is really good. Even with an extra front wheel, the Tricity wasn't as confidence-inspiring in corners because of the rear Bridgestone. On Michelins, the XMAX is lovely to ride
Hi Alex, Great video! It made me buy the tires. However, I installed both the rear and the front in the same direction. Unfortunately the front tire seems to be backwards, it has two arrows on the side, one arrow pointing in one direction if it's mount in the front and another arrow pointing in different direction if mounted in the back. Do you think it would make a big difference?
What about if you don't ride many km per year? I consider a good rule of thumb to replace both tyres every 2 years. By the way, had the Michelin tyres on my pcx and they indeed where excellent.
@@RideWithAlex with the sunny weather here in Cyprus, tyres get hard after 2-3 years. You can see the indicator that it has more rubber to wear out, but it gets stiff as a rock...
Deși m-am informat destul de temeinic înainte să aleg City Grip 2, tot am mai aflat din clipul ăsta câteva chestii pe care nu le știam. Fiindcă am rulat doar 200km cu anvelopele originale de pe HD300 și numai pe vreme caldă și uscat, nu mă pot pronunța asupra diferențelor. Dar știind de la alții că City Grip sunt de calitate, m-a ajutat să prind curaj să înclin mai mult scuterul în curbe și să merg și pe vreme ploioasă și rece. Încă sunt excesiv de precaut când întâlnesc zone care par umede iar temperatura este aproape de 0 grade, dar ăsta cred că e un obicei bun indiferent cât de șmechere sunt anvelopele pe care le ai. Merita menționat în clip sistemul bizar de marcaj al rotației la City Grip, poate mai ajung și alții să creadă că li s-au montat greșit anvelopele în service.
Anyone got a comparison against the Pirelli angel? I know Michelin created these as a direct competitor to the Angel - but curious as to their individual pros and cons? Currently got the Angels on a Vespa. Happy with them, but not tried the CG2 before!
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Hey Alex What up:) Which WINTER tires do you use or recommend for r1100gs?
I passed this winter with the Pirelli Scorpio Trail the bike came on and they worked ok, I didn't have any issues with then but also I didn't push them whenbit was slippery.
Hi, I have a Silence S01 electric motorcycle. They fitted me when I bought it Michelin Citi Grip 1, the previous tire model. The test bike rides on the Pirelli Angel Scooter and the difference I notice is tremendous, since with Pirelli the potholes are felt less and the bike turns in curves very easily and on the other hand with the Michelin Citigrip1 until I have not been rolling them at the entrance cornering has been a nightmare, especially roundabouts. How much difference is there between Citigrip1 and Citigrip2? Sorry my english...google translator...
Hi Alex, I bought sym adx after your video. It has 6000 km now and I am very satisfied, but I wanted to change the tires and bought Michelin cg 2. My question to you is, is it possible to use these tires off road? Thnx
Many people say not good things about Michelin City but in the GTS 300 F 4 they fit very well. Unlike yamaha I had I was not excited. Maybe the dimension of wheels counted.I dont try yet Michelin City 2. Have difference vs Michelin City 1?
@@RideWithAlex They are different, but I would not say a LOT different. The tread pattern is similar. The City Grip 2 weigh a bit more (about 0.5kg more in most sizes) but make up for it with the better compound.
My current set has 23.000km on it! It's not about being a tyre whisperer. It's about very light scooter with big wheels. It's normal for these kinds of scooters to get over 20.000km out of a set of tyres.
I did only 14 tkm on City Grip 2, befor I had City Grip1 and I had 17 tkm, both of them have a good grip even at 0 temperature, now looking for somthing other , just to try another brend! I have Piaggio MP3 500 SPORT LT.
Hi Alex - Thanks for all the great content! I just bought a 2022 Symphony ST 200i and would love to put City Grip 2s on it. I am a bit confused, both the 14 and 16 inch wheels come in different widths and aspect ratios. Which specific sizes do you recommend? Thanks!
@@RideWithAlex Thanks again for your help with this - I've now got them installed and they feel great! Just wondering what PSI you would recommend? Do you just follow the OEM recommendations?
Hi Alex, i am from Greece and the weather here is mostly sunny (for 300 days the temperature is about 18 C, in cold days, and 26-36 C in warm days. I have a Sym Symphony ST 125 L/C ABS (2022). I want a tyre, not only for the city, but also for the highway. I want your opinion about this 3 brands: Michelin City Grip 2, Pirelli Angel, Metzeler Roadtec. I have seen all your videos and i think you wear the Michelin City Grip 2. I need your recommendation!!!
@@RideWithAlex Thank you for your prompt response. Keep going and i am very sorry for your loss!!! I believe she is watching and guide you from up there! Take care!
Hi! Sorry I have sym symfony 200....front and rear tyres are the same size....both tyres have only front arrow.....the tyre how will put back must front point arrow points opposite?
What a fantastic video and well presented. I have the city grips for my Honda Forza 125 and was wondering what the correct psi should be for the front & the rear tyres ?
Hello my friend.. I want to tell me the rank at Michelin city grip 2 Pirelli angel city Pirelli diablo rosso Mentzeler road tech What t think is the best?
How does you rear tyre last 27K km? I have used CityGrips for 11 years and never got over 10K with a rear tyre on my Vespa GTS300. Are you using reinforced tyres?
⚠️ I have three scooters I have a Yamaha 300 2023 and Burgman 400cc 2024 and Burgman 200 cc 2018 and I confirm that these aMichelin tires are the worst tires I have ever had in addition they are very unstable when driving especially on the highway very dangerous driving on the highway with it's tires because the surface when driving in a straight line the surface of the tire is very minimal compared to other tires on the other hand with dunlop tires which are on the Burgman400 are more stable on the road , you make Joke when you said Selika are expensive because those tire are not expensive at all
How many miles can you get on the City Grip 2 compared to the long lasting harder rubber of the IRC tire for PCX 125? Will the rubber wear faster on the City Grip 2?
I use the Pirelli Angels, an excellent compromise, they are not the best in the wet but they hold well and last much longer than city grips. This is what michelin owners complain about, they don't last long
@@m.v.j2971 I currently have 17.000km on my tires and the rear is only half worn. Small light scooter with 16" wheels don't wear their tires like scooters with 12" wheels.
@@RideWithAlex 13000km si cauciucul pe spate e chel ( ce-i drept scuterul e greu MP3 500 HPE Sport si fac multi km pe autostrada ).. Maine ma duc sa il schimb.. probabil tot cu Michelin.
Hello 👋 I wanna ask you something about tyre if you have a experience bro; Which one is best tyre for you ?? * Metzeler Roadtec & * Michelin City Grip 2
sadly they don't have this tire in 80 90 14 for the front is it a good idea to use a city grip2 for the rear and a city pilot 2 for the front not sure if they will work well together
@@RideWithAlex I ended up just putting 2 city pilot 2 tires for now and keeping city grip2 as a spare tire, I tried the city pilot 2 in a rain shower today on a 150cc scooter and I was impressed I felt more grip on the road then my old stock tires that I replaced
Hello Alex! I have used City Grip 2 on my Jet X last year. I loved them however they got worn out a little bit too fast as I'm a little bit chubby :( I changed my bike and need new tyres now for my Forza 300. I live in South of Portugal and we barely get rain except for one or two months which we will leave behind in a week or so. So I'm considering buying something harder as the asphalt here is quite decent. What else would you suggest other than City Grip 2? What do you think of Pirelli Angel Scooter?
If I had no other options I would take the 1 but if you can get your hands on the 2 even if you have to wait for delivery a few weeks I would take the 2
@@RideWithAlex I'm curious why the tread pattern on the front would run opposite to the back when they are the same pattern ? Shouldn't they both run the same direction for the same grip and water channeling ?
Salut! Vad ca te pricepi mai bine la cauciucuri de scoter. Am un x max 300 si inca are cauciucurile originale city grip prima varianta! Vreau sa le schimb. Astea aluneca rau pe ud si pe rece, bn sunt si 2018! Ma gandesc la city grip 2 sau contiscoot! Ce parere ai? Merita sa iau city grip 2? Merg destul de tare si il aplec pe curbe, insa cauciucul de il am acum pe fata tot aluneca! Sta bine pe curbe grip 2, pe temperatura mai mare? Ca iarna michelin a fost mereu bun! Oricum sub 5 grade nu prea mai merg! Sau daca poti sa mi recomanzi altceva, e binevenit! Nu ma intereseaza cat tine de mult, ma intereseaza foar aderenta buna pe uscat si pe ploaie! Merci!
@@jasmijnariel i know it's weird but that's how Michelin (who makes the tyre) indicates it to be mounted. I mounted them like that and they have worked great. So trust the manufacturer
hai ca imi comand si eu azi sau maine spatele pt un majesty ca am avut un Michelin care a crapat la baza cramponului dupa nici 3 ani de abuz in bucuresti.
Thank you for the video!!😀😀 I have a question. city grip2 VS city grip saver VS city extra (new product) What are the pros and cons of each? I have a nmax155😂
Από όσο έχω ψάξει Metzeler roadtec scooter είναι τα καλύτερα σε στεγνό και ισάξια σε βρεγμένο με τα Michelin.Εγω αυτά θά βάλω μετά τα Michelin. Τα μισελεν είναι πολύ καλά για 5-6000 χλμ μετά γλυστρανε αρκετά
I just got a set of these fitted yesterday to my Honda Grom and so far I absolutely love them, everyone I know who owns a Grom swears by these tyres
I love these tires. I just got them on my SYM JET X 125 and it solved the handlebar wobbling problem. It behaves entirely differently. They are the next best thing to apple pie.
Do u have the trunk too on your sym jet x? Becos I have it and I want to understand if the problem is solved by changing the tires
@@crow01098 I no longer have the jet x. The reason is a long story, but at the end of this month, I'm getting the SYM HD 300. The top box in the back is what you're referring to which did not make a difference. Whether I had it on or off the tires that came from the factory do not last very long. when I put the Michelin city grip 2 The behavior of the vehicle changed quite a bit for the better! Aerodynamically it is my opinion that the box in the back makes a bit of a difference, but nothing noticeable. Having a top box in the back does not determine whether or not you need to change the tires on the bike. Behavior of the bike specifically the unsteady handlebars is your indication that you need to change your tires. Some more expensive bikes may come with Michelin's or Melingers, so that is encouragement enough to spend a little bit more money and get that more expensive bike that has those tires. specifically for the SYM Jet X you need to go to your dealer (or do iy yourself if able and so inclined) and get the special plate for the particular model bike in order to mount a top box. Beware that the top box compatible with the monolock plate is a monolock top box. Hope this helps.
Very , very good presentation ! I have always been a Michelin fan since 50 years . If you know their story you would be one too . It starts with the steel cable used in all their tires . No other mfg. has the knowledge to make tiny diameter CABLE as opposed to simply wire rope . Michelin has the valuable patent and the highly secret technique in fabricating this small diameter cable which gives all Michelin tires their world leading strength . Point #2 is that all Michelin road tires are first and foremost designed to be absolutely the best , safest in the rain . That in a nutshell is why I only put Michelin on all my motos and cars as well .
I did not know about the steel cable part, and in terms of the their performance i too firstly look for the rain performance because that's when you really need to be able to trust your tires, when you get caught in a rainstorm far away from home and you want to make it home safely.
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2016 Sym HD 200 with 4 year old Michelin City Grips, balanced, etc. Question: Why when I hit a bump in the road and not even a serious bump, seconds later I will feel the bars / front end start doing a kind of mild weaving action. Is the air in the front tire(s) going through some re-settling or something like that? The City Grips installed in 2019 at 13k miles. Current miles at 20k. Time for new tires?
Thanks
Dean
Seattle
@@dean3434 lol its definitely not the "air resettling", it sounds like a regular wobble, maybe your fork bearings are too loose causing your handlebars to move too freely
Ali, I loved this vid. I own a new Grom and have given up my car. So yea I'm full time. Even though I'm 70 YO I have been riding for 50 years. I'll keep your vid in mind.
+1 for the City Grip 2-s, I have it as factory-fitted tyres on my current 300 scooter, they are very good. I had the City Grip 1-s on my Honda PCX before, ride it for 6 years, it was perfect, and it had nearly no sign of wear after 20k km-s.
Super material. I use these tyres on a small 125cc motorbike. They perform brilliantly even in minus 5 degrees. Like you, I use this machine all year round. Cold, hot, wet and dry.
Excellent choice, so you say - very easy, confident handling of the motorbike.
Yep, i stand by my choice of tyre and everyone that has tried it hasn't been disappointed.
Did you try them out i mud and snow? How did they perform?
Great video 👍I’m convinced to put these on my fat wheel ebike as I love riding in all weathers. Also they are the go to’ tire upgrade I’m seeing performance ebike shops making to their bikes.
Thank you sharing this video for City Grip 2 tires!👍Ride With Alex
My pleasure! :)
Thanks Alex, City Grips are a scooter cult classic for a reason
Verry nice review about michelin tire and im also using street pilot2 for my scooter quality tire forget about the price safety must come first
Yep 😁
I have these on my Genuine Roughhouse 50.
I love them! SO much more sure footed.
I just bought a Honda ADV 150.
I'm thinking I might just change out the stock rubber within the first few months.
I looked them that much.
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Man, you point out the best understandable point between budget and premium tires 👍👍
Hi Alex… thanks for the explanation, appreciated… I have asked the dealer, to fit the Michelin City Grip 2 tyres on my just ordered brand new Sinnis Hero-X 125 scooter… Can’t wait to drive from the dealer with the new scooter and with those Michelin tyres, all the way through the Scottish highlands back home. Take care and enjoy it all.
Great tire tutorial! Always something to learn, of course I always pay more for tires hoping they’re better(?), (you made me feel better about it).👍🏻😆Michelin City Grip 2 it is‼Best Rola (Oregon / USA)
Glad you mentioned the profile. Just had a pai of city grip 2s fitted and feels different . Like the bike will tip into a corner very easily. It needs a bit of riding toget used to that. Old tyres were dunlop scoot smart and didnt feelike this.
Thanks for this!! After waiting for months for them to arrive in Australia, I've now got the City Grip2's on my SYM Symphony 200T. I have the first rear tyre in OZ! :). I can't wait to get out onto the backcountry roads around here! Cheers, mate!
Awesome 😁
Yes, I do all year round diving on my scooter,
And I live in Scotland 🏴 part of the UK , yes it snow's as well lol 😂 🤣 😂
I do agree with your pick of tires,
And what you are saying,
Kind Regards
James fae (from)
Scotland 🏴 👍 🙂
This tire was made for people like us, it can handle just about any kind of conditions for people who ride in any kind of condition :)
Excellent presentation on the importance of quality tires on scooters. Best wishes for the road ahead.
Thank you!
This was so useful! I just bought an xtown 300 and im very happy with it but the Lenda tires ot comes with are really rubbish on wet weather. This was exactly what i needed, a well balsnced tire in sll conditions and a lot safer than the stock ones. Thank yoy so much!
My pleasure :)
I am waiting my new tires Michelin Grip 2 for my Symphony SR 125 2022 for the winter. Let be fantastic !
Thank you a lot for your videos !
Glad you enjoy them 😊
How did they perform? Did you get a chance trying them out on snow?
Thanks a lot dude for all the details about the city grip 2 tire. Need to change my tires ASAP on my 155cc scooter, due to poor grip in the wet. 😊
With pleasure, I've been using them for years on my personal scooter and they have never failed me, even off road😂
@@RideWithAlex nice to hear that! I'm going to buy a pair of City grip 2 next week to fit on the scooter. Running 98% asphalt and only occasionally short distance on gravel. I'm riding it in all weather conditions, so the grip needs to be there every day 😎
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@@RideWithAlexIn fact, the grooves make the tires excellent for off-road as well, it is an all-terrain tyre
Real excited to get my City Grip 2's on Sunday!!! The T Swift and J LO comparisons took me out
In SoCal most scooter riders take a very long time to cover miles, rarely see used scooters for sale with over 10,000 miles on them regardless of how many years old, last year picked up 2015 & 2018 Vespas with >1000 miles on them and another 2018 with >2000 miles.
An when I think myne is less then 2 years old and has 20000 miles on it already :))))
Excellent video mate. You explained everthing well. Here's a Thumbs up 👍
Thank you
Hello Alex ! Just fitted Pirelli Angels for my joyride (2024) ... hope they are good
Never tried them but I heared they are good
Great review friend, just put them on my SR 50 and they feel great 🚀
Thank you for a review with actual added value!
My pleasure!
incredible review, seriously. thanks a bunch. I think the city grips are perfect for my xmax 300
If you plan on riding all year long, yes they are. I use them and I'll keep using them.
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@@moguerlain7158 they worked amazing. Highly recommend
Thanks! I just bought one like this for my Honda Forza 125 cc.
What are your thoughts about them?
@@RideWithAlex The tires grip the asphalt very well. They also behave quite well on wet surfaces. This is especially important because my PCX does not have ABS. I also have a City Grip 2 in a Honda Forza. I have similar impressions.
Nice presentation. I have Michelin city grip on my Gilera Nexus 250 for 7 years now. I don't ride in winter. They are still ok. How long is the life of these tyers? Shold I change it? Regars, Igor
I don't know in years, I wear them down much quicker then they can get old.
My factory tires are pirellis angel scooter, so I am wondering if City grip 2 are good replacement for those
Why is it the Rear Tire City Grip 2 of my Scooter only it Wears on the Left Side?.. Is there a recommensed PSi for the City Grip 2 or should I follow the PSi recommended on the Scooter Manual.. Its still on 3000 KM on used.. Pls help
Never heard of that, go to a service and check your alignment.
Great video! I’m planning to add in my cart...👍👍👍
It's a good option :)
Excellent thanks. Just bought a used burgman. Needs new shoes. Gotta be those City grips.
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Yep 😁
@@RideWithAlex I have the mitchelin 3 peaks on my RV. outstanding set of tyres.
I have olso the michelin . It makes it a much bettter scooter! Thanks for the nice video's !
My pleasure 😁
I don't know the exact specifications of the stock tires on my Jet14 125cc, but they should be CST standard. Overall, I am happy with them, but the handling in corners feels like it happens in two stages. It's hard to describe, but it's as if you have to overcome a small barrier before leaning further. Do any of you guys experience this too? I've only ridden on these CS tires and one new set of Pirelli AngelCity tires(on my KTM Duke200) , so I don't have many comparisons. However, I'm planning to try Michelin or Dunlop tires next. I've had a great experience with Dunlop RT tires on my car about eight years ago or more.
Put some premium tires on it and it's behavior will change!
Thank you Alex, very interesting.
My pleasure!
I just switched from Yamaha Tricity 300 to a XMAX 300. The XMAX is on City Grip 2s and the feel is really good. Even with an extra front wheel, the Tricity wasn't as confidence-inspiring in corners because of the rear Bridgestone. On Michelins, the XMAX is lovely to ride
Excellent video. I'm sold.
Glad you liked it!
Perfect review! Thumbs up!👍🏻
Thank you!😁
they came stock on my Honda Forza 125 they are great
Hi greetings from bay area California. With the tread life which one is better City 2 or the angel ?
Haven't used angel so I can't say.
Michelin is very well known & has big reputation
I have mitas (front) CityGrip2 (rear) on my cruisym 300
Hi Alex,
Great video!
It made me buy the tires. However, I installed both the rear and the front in the same direction. Unfortunately the front tire seems to be backwards, it has two arrows on the side, one arrow pointing in one direction if it's mount in the front and another arrow pointing in different direction if mounted in the back.
Do you think it would make a big difference?
Yes, mount them the way they are meant to be mounted.
@@RideWithAlex thanks for the answer.
Thanks
What about if you don't ride many km per year? I consider a good rule of thumb to replace both tyres every 2 years. By the way, had the Michelin tyres on my pcx and they indeed where excellent.
2 years is way to often 4-5 years for motorcycle tyres and 6-7 for car tyres that's what just about all the manufacturers recommend
@@RideWithAlex with the sunny weather here in Cyprus, tyres get hard after 2-3 years. You can see the indicator that it has more rubber to wear out, but it gets stiff as a rock...
Deși m-am informat destul de temeinic înainte să aleg City Grip 2, tot am mai aflat din clipul ăsta câteva chestii pe care nu le știam.
Fiindcă am rulat doar 200km cu anvelopele originale de pe HD300 și numai pe vreme caldă și uscat, nu mă pot pronunța asupra diferențelor. Dar știind de la alții că City Grip sunt de calitate, m-a ajutat să prind curaj să înclin mai mult scuterul în curbe și să merg și pe vreme ploioasă și rece. Încă sunt excesiv de precaut când întâlnesc zone care par umede iar temperatura este aproape de 0 grade, dar ăsta cred că e un obicei bun indiferent cât de șmechere sunt anvelopele pe care le ai.
Merita menționat în clip sistemul bizar de marcaj al rotației la City Grip, poate mai ajung și alții să creadă că li s-au montat greșit anvelopele în service.
Anyone got a comparison against the Pirelli angel? I know Michelin created these as a direct competitor to the Angel - but curious as to their individual pros and cons?
Currently got the Angels on a Vespa. Happy with them, but not tried the CG2 before!
Hey Alex What up:) Which WINTER tires do you use or recommend for r1100gs?
I passed this winter with the Pirelli Scorpio Trail the bike came on and they worked ok, I didn't have any issues with then but also I didn't push them whenbit was slippery.
Bravo, super profi documentare! Mulțumesc!
Hi, I have a Silence S01 electric motorcycle. They fitted me when I bought it Michelin Citi Grip 1, the previous tire model. The test bike rides on the Pirelli Angel Scooter and the difference I notice is tremendous, since with Pirelli the potholes are felt less and the bike turns in curves very easily and on the other hand with the Michelin Citigrip1 until I have not been rolling them at the entrance cornering has been a nightmare, especially roundabouts.
How much difference is there between Citigrip1 and Citigrip2?
Sorry my english...google translator...
The city grip 2 is a big improvement over the 1 I like them a lot
Thanks but diferencies with Pirelli ángel please?
@@jjqq7857 haven't tried them properly so I can't say
@@RideWithAlex okok muy friend. Good job good video
@@jjqq7857 thank you!
Hi Alex, I bought sym adx after your video. It has 6000 km now and I am very satisfied, but I wanted to change the tires and bought Michelin cg 2. My question to you is, is it possible to use these tires off road? Thnx
They sure can, I've done some crazy stuff with them. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/cDDEMw2ifzY/v-deo.html
@@RideWithAlex
Even though Kenda is an off-road tire, Michelin will satisfy me.✌️
Many people say not good things about Michelin City but in the GTS 300 F 4 they fit very well. Unlike yamaha I had I was not excited. Maybe the dimension of wheels counted.I dont try yet Michelin City 2. Have difference vs Michelin City 1?
The 2's are quite a lot different from the first iteration. Different compound and different tread pattern
@@RideWithAlex They are different, but I would not say a LOT different. The tread pattern is similar. The City Grip 2 weigh a bit more (about 0.5kg more in most sizes) but make up for it with the better compound.
You are so right! Caramba!
nice tip' i also have it' year ago thanks.
27 000 kms? Wow! I heard about 5-10k from other people. You seem to be a tyre whisperer.
My current set has 23.000km on it! It's not about being a tyre whisperer. It's about very light scooter with big wheels. It's normal for these kinds of scooters to get over 20.000km out of a set of tyres.
@@RideWithAlex Ok. Thanks. What do you think...how long could this tyre last on a Scooter, 12" tyres...95 kg weight empty?
@@ric2840 Those kind of scooters out of a good tyre you should be able to get 15.000km out of the rear the front a little bit more.
I did only 14 tkm on City Grip 2, befor I had City Grip1 and I had 17 tkm, both of them have a good grip even at 0 temperature, now looking for somthing other , just to try another brend! I have Piaggio MP3 500 SPORT LT.
what about the michelin city extra sir what can you say about that tire?
Haven't tested them so I don't know 🤷
Great Info,,,very informative,,, great work
Thank you
Hello! Thank you for this very informative video! What dimensions do you propose for Symphony st 200 ?
The ones that come stock on it. I did not change the tyre size.
@@RideWithAlex Copy that, thank you.
Hi Alex - Thanks for all the great content! I just bought a 2022 Symphony ST 200i and would love to put City Grip 2s on it. I am a bit confused, both the 14 and 16 inch wheels come in different widths and aspect ratios. Which specific sizes do you recommend? Thanks!
The OEM size, 110/70R16 front and 120/80R14 rear
@@RideWithAlex Thanks!
@@RideWithAlex Thanks again for your help with this - I've now got them installed and they feel great! Just wondering what PSI you would recommend? Do you just follow the OEM recommendations?
@@rileyhoare9840 experiment, I run higher then oem on my scoot front 2.0 bar and rear 2.3 bar.
If you use the Metzeler Roadtech you will change your mind !!!
Hi Alex, i am from Greece and the weather here is mostly sunny (for 300 days the temperature is about 18 C, in cold days, and 26-36 C in warm days. I have a Sym Symphony ST 125 L/C ABS (2022). I want a tyre, not only for the city, but also for the highway. I want your opinion about this 3 brands: Michelin City Grip 2, Pirelli Angel, Metzeler Roadtec. I have seen all your videos and i think you wear the Michelin City Grip 2. I need your recommendation!!!
Yes, for me the Michelin has worked great in all situations and i highly recommend it.
@@RideWithAlex Thank you for your prompt response.
Keep going and i am very sorry for your loss!!!
I believe she is watching and guide you from up there!
Take care!
what do you think of the pirelli angel scooter?
Haven't tried them in the cold and wet so can't say.
Hi!
Sorry I have sym symfony 200....front and rear tyres are the same size....both tyres have only front arrow.....the tyre how will put back must front point arrow points opposite?
The rear is opposite to the front. Just mount the front tyre on the rear backwards.
What a fantastic video and well presented. I have the city grips for my Honda Forza 125 and was wondering what the correct psi should be for the front & the rear tyres ?
You will have to check your manufacturers recommended pressures.
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Follow Polish manual it is 2 bar front and 2.25 bar rear.
Hello my friend.. I want to tell me the rank at
Michelin city grip 2
Pirelli angel city
Pirelli diablo rosso
Mentzeler road tech
What t think is the best?
I use the Michelin on my personal scooter, they work the best for my needs.
How does you rear tyre last 27K km? I have used CityGrips for 11 years and never got over 10K with a rear tyre on my Vespa GTS300. Are you using reinforced tyres?
No, my scooter has 16" on the front and 14" on the back. The Vespa has 12" and smaller wheels make more rotations and will wear out quicker.
@@RideWithAlex ah, makes sense!
⚠️ I have three scooters I have a Yamaha 300 2023 and Burgman 400cc 2024 and Burgman 200 cc 2018 and I confirm that these aMichelin tires are the worst tires I have ever had in addition they are very unstable when driving especially on the highway very dangerous driving on the highway with it's tires because the surface when driving in a straight line the surface of the tire is very minimal compared to other tires on the other hand with dunlop tires which are on the Burgman400 are more stable on the road , you make Joke when you said Selika are expensive because those tire are not expensive at all
Best alternative to Michelin is Mitas or Maxima. Good quality rubber, good for nice weather and winter, they are selling good in south-eastern Europe.
Mitas is not bad, but I still prefer the Michelins
Nice review. What is your opinion about Pirelli Diablo Roso Scoot?
They look good but personally I haven't tried them so can't say much.
Wasn't impressed at all with the Rosso scooter tire. The original Diablo or 1st Gen was awesome.
How many miles can you get on the City Grip 2 compared to the long lasting harder rubber of the IRC tire for PCX 125? Will the rubber wear faster on the City Grip 2?
I just changed my rear tyre, it was truly finished at 30.000km but the front one is good for another 20.000. I have a 16" front and a 14" rear
thanks, good video
My pleasure
Hello nice video you have, what if I use city grip 2 front tire to rear is it still good ?
I think these tyres can be mounted frong or rear you just have to turn them arround.
Why the front tire on scooter beside of your right hand has opposite direction?
That's how it's sapoosed to be, there are many videos on the internet explaining why that is.
@@RideWithAlex Oh, I see. So it is for better grip for deceleration and for longevity. Now I know one more thing. Thank you!
Please one question 🙏🙏🙏why front tires is reverse ?
For grip under braking, there are a lot of videos explaining why the front tire is reversed on motorcycles.
I use the Pirelli Angels, an excellent compromise, they are not the best in the wet but they hold well and last much longer than city grips. This is what michelin owners complain about, they don't last long
My first set lasted 27000km. If I get 25000 out of this set I'm happy.
@@RideWithAlex excellent result
@@RideWithAlex i don’t believe you have done 27.000 kilometers with the rear tyre…. After 15.000 you have to change the tyre ….
@@m.v.j2971 I currently have 17.000km on my tires and the rear is only half worn. Small light scooter with 16" wheels don't wear their tires like scooters with 12" wheels.
@@RideWithAlex 13000km si cauciucul pe spate e chel ( ce-i drept scuterul e greu MP3 500 HPE Sport si fac multi km pe autostrada ).. Maine ma duc sa il schimb.. probabil tot cu Michelin.
Dear Alex, how many km is ideal for use on motorbike? I mean how many km is the time for change with a new pair of tyres?
It's not an exact number, you have to check your tyres and see if they reached the wear mark.
Hello 👋 I wanna ask you something about tyre if you have a experience bro;
Which one is best tyre for you ??
* Metzeler Roadtec & * Michelin City Grip 2
I haven't tried the Metzeler Roadtec
New subscriber here..thnx for the good reviews...
Thank you for the appreciation! 😁
sadly they don't have this tire in 80 90 14 for the front is it a good idea to use a city grip2 for the rear and a city pilot 2 for the front not sure if they will work well together
I honestly don't know how they will feel together 🤷🏻♂️
@@RideWithAlex I ended up just putting 2 city pilot 2 tires for now and keeping city grip2 as a spare tire, I tried the city pilot 2 in a rain shower today on a 150cc scooter and I was impressed I felt more grip on the road then my old stock tires that I replaced
I have the Michelin now on my Honda ADV...now Handlebar Wubble...😮 what ist that?
That's weird :/
Theyre €130 for me shipped... cheap... if i get half the mileage you did, I'll be happy. Just want grip and wet rain riding.
the set I currently have on have 9000km and both front and rear look great. I think the rear will easily get me to 20k
Hello Alex!
I have used City Grip 2 on my Jet X last year. I loved them however they got worn out a little bit too fast as I'm a little bit chubby :(
I changed my bike and need new tyres now for my Forza 300.
I live in South of Portugal and we barely get rain except for one or two months which we will leave behind in a week or so. So I'm considering buying something harder as the asphalt here is quite decent.
What else would you suggest other than City Grip 2?
What do you think of Pirelli Angel Scooter?
Haven't tried the Pirelli so I can't say.
Would you still prefer the City Grip 1? Unfortunately there are still no city grip 2 in our location. Even ordering online is hard.
If I had no other options I would take the 1 but if you can get your hands on the 2 even if you have to wait for delivery a few weeks I would take the 2
I ordered a pair 5days ago. Curious how they drive compared to the originals
A lot better.
I think the front tire on the bike on the left is on backwards.
No it's not, that's how it's supposed to be mounted.
@@RideWithAlex I'm curious why the tread pattern on the front would run opposite to the back when they are the same pattern ? Shouldn't they both run the same direction for the same grip and water channeling ?
How is the performance in muddy conditions
I haven't been disappointed by them in the mud
Which better, this one or pirelli angel scooter? Please
If you ride in the wet or in winter the Michelin is better, on dry tarmac in the summer the Pirelli is better
I’d go for my Vespa is pirelli. Thanks bro🍻
Salut! Vad ca te pricepi mai bine la cauciucuri de scoter. Am un x max 300 si inca are cauciucurile originale city grip prima varianta! Vreau sa le schimb. Astea aluneca rau pe ud si pe rece, bn sunt si 2018! Ma gandesc la city grip 2 sau contiscoot! Ce parere ai? Merita sa iau city grip 2? Merg destul de tare si il aplec pe curbe, insa cauciucul de il am acum pe fata tot aluneca! Sta bine pe curbe grip 2, pe temperatura mai mare? Ca iarna michelin a fost mereu bun! Oricum sub 5 grade nu prea mai merg! Sau daca poti sa mi recomanzi altceva, e binevenit! Nu ma intereseaza cat tine de mult, ma intereseaza foar aderenta buna pe uscat si pe ploaie! Merci!
Eu am tras de al meu cat am putut de tare pe curbe si nu au avut nici un fel de probleme.
When I install the tire in the front, is it in the opposite rotation or not?
Look on the side of the tyre, but yes it's opposite to the back one
Huh?
@@RideWithAlex since when is it the opposide? Now the water collects in the center grippy part
@@jasmijnariel i know it's weird but that's how Michelin (who makes the tyre) indicates it to be mounted. I mounted them like that and they have worked great. So trust the manufacturer
hai ca imi comand si eu azi sau maine spatele pt un majesty ca am avut un Michelin care a crapat la baza cramponului dupa nici 3 ani de abuz in bucuresti.
.. dupa `nici` 3 ani in Bucuresti? :D cauciucul ala are PTSD
nice presentation
Thank you!
Thank you for the video!!😀😀
I have a question.
city grip2 VS city grip saver VS city extra (new product)
What are the pros and cons of each?
I have a nmax155😂
Haven't tried these new versions. Only the city grip 1 and 2.
What tires does the Symphony st 200 fit as standard?😁
110/70r16 - front and 120/80r14 - rear. CST branded tyres.
Ce parere aveti despre heidenau k66 ? In Germania din ce citesc in comentariile utilizatorilor ar cam bate michelin city grip 🤔
Nu am incercat inca Haidenau K66.
Hi handsome. What a great video. More please and a link to buy you coffee and donuts. Thanks keep recording.
More will be coming and I am looking into options like "buy me a coffee" for the future
wow super
Continental Contiscoot?
Haven't tried them.
@@RideWithAlex okok. Wait
Clever
My friend what difference between citigrip1 and citigrip 2?
Its less flat?
the city grip 2 is the evolution of the 1 it's an improvement in every way.
@@RideWithAlex its less flat??
Any ideas about tires for Cruisym a?
I know a couple of people who run these city grips on the cruisym and they are happy with them
Από όσο έχω ψάξει Metzeler roadtec scooter είναι τα καλύτερα σε στεγνό και ισάξια σε βρεγμένο με τα Michelin.Εγω αυτά θά βάλω μετά τα Michelin.
Τα μισελεν είναι πολύ καλά για 5-6000 χλμ μετά γλυστρανε αρκετά