I've had various budget Chinese tyres on various cars and never had a problem. All these comments about grip, stopping, losing it on roundabouts, abs locking up etc is a mystery to me. I just stick them on and drive in dry, wet, ice and snow, and have never skidded, slid or lost control in any way. I just put them on and forget about them.
This is easy too say until it happens. Quality of the tyre could be the difference between a crash or not. Yes mabye it won't happen but there's a chance it could.
The quality of driving is just as important as tyre quality. A lot of people don't know how to drive in different conditions or how to take a corner clean and safe. I've never had any issues with cheaper tyres most of my mistakes in my earlier years were my own fault due to lack of experience not the tyres. Drive accordingly for the conditions and know your cars and your own capabilities.
Autogreen are a great tyre. Had mine since 2018, 15k miles pretty much all city driving with a few motorway trips and they are just over 5mm all around (I rotate them every six months) and had no issues at all. Our runaround is due new tyres and will get them for this too. Price is excellent too, just £35 - £38 a corner fitted for most sizes. Don't think I would bother with a part worn ever again now for the cost difference. Budget tyres have certainly come a long way in recent years, starting to thing high end is just paying for a name now.
High end has it's place and certainly can grip more and perform really highly in many testing conditions. Most people will only notice the mileage and the road noise/comfort, not how well they stop in an emergency or handle around corners etc.. and that is a good thing with safe road users. Thanks for your input.
I'm paying £80 a corner for Pirelli Cinturato P7C2s they're quite, decent on fuel and comfortable whilst still retaining silly levels of grip Well worth the extra money.
I have Autogreen tyres, the same as the one in video, on a BMW, on the rear and so far, after 25k MILES, there are at 5mm of thread Noise level is very low, and they perform very well overall. Before I had Continental, and the difference is not noticeable.
I recently purchased a set of 4 store branded Chinese winter tire Called "Dynamo" for my aging car with original tire Bridgestone EL400 all season tires. When the car was new I treated my car with Bridgestone Blizzik and Michelin X Ice winter tires for North Americian winter . I found them good to ok for winter but performance does drops as they wears. These big name brands winter tires were ok for winter and never shines on dry or watery wet road performance. Initially I don't expect much from the lower priced Chinese winter tire on snow, ice , wet, and dry performance . After owning the Dynamo Chinese tire this winter I was amazed how good they were on snow, ice , wet, and specially on cold winter dry pavements . It definitely feels better on dry and wet than the original Bridgestone Turanza EL400 and what surprised me the most was it feels even slightly better than my more pricy premium Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season tires on wet and dry performance on pavements. The plus side were it's quieter and rides smoother than all those premium high priced tires. How wrong was my choice by buying only big brands premium tires.
@@Krabbykrabbkrabbu talking about the US government that fuxx's up countries and kills innocents and feeds their local bullsh*t news all day so they remain dumb and fat.
I've used Chinese tires branded as Hercules, Merit, Boto, Kapsen and Kinforest. They've always been a great value and I've never been unhappy with their ride quality or performance whether they were summer or winter radials. Considering how many vehicles are on China's roads, I think it safe to say that they have quite a bit of experience in that regard.
I remember when Kumho were new and considered by people to be crap because they were Korean. However they are excellent tyres with a great reputation now that people have got use to them.
@@Fuckyoutube99 I guess it depends on WHICH tyre you brought and what vehicle you are running them on. I had a fantastic experience with the Kumho ECSTA KU31 after running both the Bridgestone RE040A and RE050A Potenza also the Goodyear EAGLE F1 GSD3 'flagship' tyre. The Kumho A/T & M/T range of 4WD & SUV tyres have proven to be excellent in all areas also vs other 'name' brands. Always 2 sides to any story I guess .
@@caste405 Rubbish! Put the right Kumho's on your vehicle and you would NEVER say that. I can tell you the same thing about Goodyear EAGLE GSD3. (Goodyear's FLAGSHIP wet weather performance tyre at the time)
Quality tyres last longer , get better mpg , make for safer handling and give better road feel . I got fed up with cheap tyres and now love my michelins - they actually save money in the long run .
Andy Nixon don't know how you work that one out. But at most each tyre will save you £10 over its life. The mpg difference is almost non existent. Do some research and you'll save some money
@@soldiers303 Even if quality tires don't save Andy money how much is handling and stopping distance worth to you and your family? I love my Michelin CrossClimate+ tires. We average 6 feet (1.83 meters) of snow a year in Northeast Pennsylvania and they are a gem, I have no problems getting around whatsoever. In the summer they make my big old 2012 Honda Accord feel like a much more nimble car around the curves or changing lanes on the highway, very well planted, solid and stable. I've also succumbed to the cheap tire scam when I was young, ill informed and broke. I thought it was normal to replace my tires (tyres just for you haha) every year. Oh, and I let other drivers do my research for me. That's why I bought the Michelin Crossclimate+'s... It's amazing, these people drove 200 million miles (322 million kilometers) on all brands of tires, gave real world unbiased ratings and I didn't even have to pay them lol. Cheers from the states mate and Merry Christmas. www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS
Had a few premium tyres sliced and busted due to potholes. Put on cheaper tyres and if the get sliced open I don't feel the pain of high cash outlay. Some of the Chinese manufacturers offer lifetime warranty as well. On a percentage of treadware left. If sliced brand new, new tyre fitted.
I always buy cheaper tyres and never had a problem.Gripmax,Black lion,Runway etc.I think people who insist on the so called top brands tend to drive German cars.
I've used Goodride SA37 on my daily and Goodride Sport RS on the track. Happy with both. Excellent value for money due to being on the cheaper side but still performs very well. I also drive to the conditions.
I tried those and i had to change them almost straight away. Seriously dangerous tires, no grip whatsoever, I was losing the rear at a moderate pace and they would instantly overheat and even smell. Never again, I was even worried selling them to someone for how dangerous they are
A lot of people who say they would only buy brand name tyres and would never by Chinese, should have a close look at the sidewalls on many brand names tyres. They may be surprised where many are being made.
That is 100% true. My grandmother's 2009 Chrysler T&C was built with Yokohama tires. Those Yokohamas were made in Indonesia. I would encounter many Sumitomo tires that were made in Thailand or China.
It is not about where they're made. It is about the technology in the tyre. I don't think chinese manufacturers put a lot of effort in Research and development which often results in tyres which are acceptable in some conditions and bad in another. You might get a tyre which does well on a dry or slightly moist road but becomes a danger in heavy rainfall. Or you might get a tyre which sticks to the road really well but doesn't last two seasons because they took a very soft compound. Making tyres is finding the best possible compromise in every aspect. They're much more then rubber with some grooves .
.... China ... China .... where we are and what we are doing ? Stop steel industry in Europe, US and buy Chinese cars and so on 😂 It is cheaper. 🙈 We do not care about it but children of our children will be slaves belonging to Great China. Stop it ! It is not too late !!!
I had Nankang (B rating in the wet) tyres on my small car, they were horrible on dry tarmac and dangerous in the wet (very slippery and wheel spin from a car with only 55bhp). Then I replaced all four of them with Michelin with a A-rating for wet, it was like heaven. I couldn't get any wheel spin from it and every ride in any condition was very reassuring. These Michelin's cost twice as much, but it's the best investment anytime for me.
I put a set of Nankang trailer tires on my boat trailer in 2004. In 2008, three of them had totally failed; just simple blew out, and they were inflated correctly and were not overloaded. Those POS's couldn't stand up to the SW Nevada heat, even though tire covers were used and the tires didn't have but a few hundred miles on them. In replacing them, I went with "Hi-Run" due to cheap cost...another mistake. You could watch those crap tires wear before your very eyes over the same few hundred miles. Replaced those with Maxxis 8008's. Now that's a damned tire and a half! Never again will I cheap out on tires.
@@sametoruc556Performance tyres have softer compounds, that's why they wear quickly. Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 6 repeatedly come in the top 3 in blind tyre tests. Definitely not overrated and night and day compared with some Chinese crap.
Believe it or not Yokohama produces the best tyres. Trust me.. they glide over surfaces and at the same time gives great control. Plus it doesn't affects the mileage at all.
I have a staggered auto green SSC5 setup on my bmw 1 series. 245/40/18 in the rears and 225/40/18 in the front. Loads of grip, great handling and water displacement. Only had them on for a week or two so yet to confirm about them being long lasting but no signs of damage or wear as of yet and I’ve driven the car fairly solidly on them so far!!
@@Jaytriple1 interested to know this too as due to purchase some new in a few weeks time. Another tyre I'm looking at are GT Radial in 225/45 R18 but are £30 more each tyre
The best cheap tires I ever purchased are Ohtsu tires. They are basically Falken tires under a generic name brand. They can last up to 4 years, as long as wheel rotations are done timely.
Buying cheap tires is really to deceive your self. In an comparison test done by the Swedish car magazine “Vi Bilägare no 5 march 27-2018” the braking distance from 100 km/h to 0 km/h on wet tarmac was 54.6 metres with Continental tires and 74.1 metres with budget Goodride tires! Another way of describing this is that when the Continental tire equipped car came to a full stop the car with Goodride tires flew past at 50 km/h! Imagine what that would mean if there was a mother with a pram crossing your way! I know not all budget tires are as bad as this example but think again. You get what you pay for. Buy premium brands!
Who said you should buy expensive tires because they are expensive? There are magazines and there are magazines. And how should you yourselves decide which tires are good or bad? Never heard of the magazine, why not try internet. Get smart.
Sorry about that. It appears You must be a subscriber to get access to the article. It is also in Swedish but the graphs and pictures can be understood even by non-Swedish people, I think. The tests where done in Texas in November 2017 at a specially designed test track.
It would be helpful to include the depth of tread when new. My last set of khumos were 6.9mm - 7.2mm when new! Their published depth is 8.00mm!...usable down to 1.2mm means many miles are missing!
The rain rating is not about "grip". It is measuring the capacity of getting the rain out of the tire, in order to not aquaplan. The noise yes, it usually is linked to the grip. More grip, usually equals more noise.
I would never buy Chinese tires. Remember that tires are a very important part of your car, they determine how the car will handle, brake and ride quality. I have Yokohamas which are made in the USA.
If you base your buying on where they are from rather than how they are made you're silly. Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Dunlop... all make tires in China.
Always do your reaserch about tyres and prices. German ADAC site is something i always chek before buying new tires. For this winter i will buy 16" Kleber HP3 for 55 Euros (4th overall) . No:1 Was Continental 860 but it's 90-95 Euros. So i will try to drive slower and save 150 for oil service and brake pads.
You go into any fitters and they'll quote you what they have on the shelf. Your average punter that drives a focus won't care. If it's new, passes the MOT it's a winner. He ain't going to notice noise, fuel consumption, wet grip, dry grip or stopping distances. Just drive along at a steady speed till they wear out. He'll only notice there's no tread come mot!
I'm a Chinese who studying in Europe,let me tell you something.Tires in China sells much cheaper than Europe,for example,the same size tires in video,I can pay 45eur for a Dunlop,or 58eur for Goodyear,even the most expensive one is Michelin,just 75eur.And the price of the same tires in Europe,20%more than in China.Tires of my car is 235/60R18,Iv found the exactly same tires: Pirelli SVAS between two countries.93eur in China and 131eur in Spain.So why the tires are so expensive here?
Great review Ger, to be honest i would always buy middle of the road when it comes to Tyres pardon the pun... so Avon would be the tyre i would buy here.
The more sensible you treat your tyres, the longer you keep your tyres (if you drive like Lewis Hamilton your tyre shop will love you and if you drive like your grandmother he will hate you more)
The problem with china brands are its ability to take bumps and rubber cracking prematurely. Sure youll still have grip as it is rubber but youll feel a lot less confident driving as you feel the slides specially in the wet or a hard full stop.
Great video, everything you say is right on the money. The only time I found myself driving on dangerously worn tires was when I bought cheap tires. Nothing like driving 12,000 miles and needing the tires replaced every year. Not only the poor treadwear but chopping and sidewall failures and vibration on the highway. One set of cheap tires I bought all developed a large bubble on the sidewalls one at a time within weeks of each other around 3,000 miles. The shop where I purchased them dealt in cheap tires, you couldn't find a Goodyear or a Michelin tire if you turned the place upside down, but at the time I was low on money so there I was falling for the "They're made by brand name so & so line they gave me" and I bought them for a few years never with good results. The shop told me the bubbles were a 'road hazard' and not covered by warranty, I must have hit a pothole. With all 4 tires? Give me a break! But I do agree cheap tires with tread are better than bald tires, but unfortunately it's a catch 22 because they don't last so you will shortly be facing the same issue. The only advice I can give is if all you can afford is a budget tire, then of course buy them. But if you can afford a better tire (I got a better job and never looked at a cheap tire again), don't be cheap, buy it, you will recover the extra money in the long run if you average the 'price/miles of use' ratio and most importantly you and your family will be safer.
One of our previous cars came with an unknown Chinese brand on them. Had a sidewall failure. Took it to our local trusted dealer who said they had seen the same thing on that brand many times. Problem was while the tread didn't wear that much the sidewalls weren't up to it and at a certain point would start to fail even though there was lots of tread left. He pointed out that people use tread wear as an indicator to replace tyres but that's just one aspect of tyre wear as the sidewalls take a lot of punishment.
@@sametoruc556 Ok, you're right, because it never happened to you that must mean it never happened to anyone else. It was all nonsense from the get go, all made up lol.
I had some Avons on my C class and they gave me about 30,000 miles. There was some signs of cracking around the tread but good even wear. I replaced these with a set of Bridgestones and they gave me almost another 30,000 but they really did crack. 2 mot advisories and they went very hard, to the point of traction control cutting in on "spirited" pull-aways. Both the Avon and the Bridgestone were fairly expensive. I then decided to go to a cheap tyre and try them. Off I went to Halfords and they fitted 4 Sailum tyres. The grip difference was immediate and incredible. I was really impressed with these. I have recently sold that car and the Sailum tyres we still at 6mm + and excellent grip after covering approximately 6,000. I would definitely recommend Sailum for the money.
i have used some affordable chinese brands tyres (landsail and rydanz, size 17 inches with 45 sidewall profile). they have good grip and wet performance. However i think they cannot withstand bad road conditions decently as both brands suffered swollen on the tyres after about just 1 year(i believe i had these because i drive fast on bad surface highways). Just changed to more expensive michelin primacy 4 tyres now with a thicker 50 sidewall profile and hoping these to last longer than those 2 brands.
I have used a lot of no-name brands, out of all of them kapsen i found to be just below hankook in terms of stickiness in the wet, all the other no-name brands skid in the wet, this is just my personal experience. I once used kelly tyres, supposedly a decent brand, but they were horrible in the wet.
For me, the best bang for your buck is gonna be any SRI (Sumitomo Rubber industrial) branded tire. So this is Sumitomo, Falken, OHTSU, and some Dunlops.
'Triangle' and 'Event' are 2 Chinese tyres I've had the misfortune to try driving on, both of them were absolutely lethal. The triangle especially would just randomly understeer on wet corners, (less than 10mph) and the 'Events' lived up to their name by making every wet drive a life threatening Event. Both brands were so bad that they really shouldn't be legal in the UK. The compound is closer to hard plastic rather than rubber. More like the tyres you would expect to find on a childs toy than a road vehicle.
My car is a 1996 RAV4 2 door and it still had the original tyres it came with.....205/70R 16 Dunlop Desert Duellers. Yesterday one back tyre blew out just standing in the driveway …..the rubber was perished and cracking so a replacement set, (no name), on EBAY from THE TYRE DEPOT Melbourne, with fitting and balancing would have cost me A$520. A year back I bought a set of 4 TOYOTA KLUGER mag wheels on EBAY with 225/70R 16 Michelin tyres with 2.5mm tread depth for A$250 and am now running them as I like the mag wheels and smooth ride. The Kluger wheels have the same 5 hole bolt pattern in the mags.....had to buy a set of wheel nuts too with locking nuts. I reckon to get at least another 20,000 Kms from the Michelins......that would be 50-100 Kms a week for the next 10 years at the rate I use the car.
No they didn't. I sold Linglong, HiFly and Goodyear for years. The budget ones are ok for their money sure but they don't compare to any Goodyear at all. The lateral grip of both the Linglong and HiFly are much less than the Assurance and don't have anywhere near the same durability.
@@bremCZ i found Linglong to last as much as Michelin energy Saver. The only drawback was worse mpg. On average 0,5L per 100km. So the difference in price was eaten by the increase in consumption.
Just had a set of Rotalla tyres on my car recently as I use it to drive on to building sites. I have been pleasantly surprised with the RH01 which is about the top end of their range. I had Michelin energy saver tyres previously and have to say that there is no noticeable difference in everyday drivability, in the dry the RH01 preforms marginally better under braking than the energy saver and only marginally worse in the wet, I expect a shorter potential service life as this is achieved with a softer compound, but given that the tyre can match the performance in other respects and I am yet to have any tyre make it past 10,000 miles of service I have no reason to invest the premium brands. my main advice would be to pick a tyre suited to your use. If you drive pothole covered puncture traps of a road or on building sites all the time buy something you can afford to replace when it is damaged, as a cheap tyre in good condition is in almost all cases (at least where EU standards apply) safer than a damaged tyre regardless of brand. If you drive a sports car buy tyres to match its performance.
I have tried cheap tyres upto premium, and tbh the cheaper tyres are a false economy. 225/45/r17 I got 15k miles out of a set of Avon ZV7 £75 fitted. I have 35k on a set of Michelin Primacy 4 tyres currently at around 1.8-2.4mm and going but will need changing soon (1.6mm uk legal limit). I always try and rotate my tyres front to rear, left to right and right to left, as my car is front wheel drive.
I picked up a Z4 with Eagle F1's on the front and Nexen NFera SU1's on the rear. Very impressed with both but particular the Nexens in both wet and dry
Chinese tyres I'd recommend and I'd avoid, that's one I can answer. Chinese tyres I'd recommend.....Landsail. Such a pants name but solid performers with long life and a decent price. Our work fleet cars tend to have them, I assume as a result of a decent deal with the wholesalers. Drove a number of cars on Hankook and Avons (who were the previous suppliers) then again on the Landsails and there were no significant issues to mention, they also lasted well and didn't turn into a slippy slidey mess after half the tread had worn. I'd highly recommend avoiding Triangle Tyres (I know!) like the plague. My dealer put them on my old Focus RS when it went in for a service. Turned it from fun and predictable to sloppy and slidey. They also charged me £120 a corner for them which stung, they promised mid rangers such as Kumho or Hankook, that's what I got instead. At the time I'd just been made redundant otherwise I'd have stuck with Michelins on that car, but that was that. They came off and were replaced with Pilot Sports the moment I was back in work!
What about tires coming out of Thailand? Apparently, they invested heavily in the industry to beat out Chinese cheap tires with affordable, yet higher quality.
over the last 28 years or so i have only ever fitted michelin/ goodyear tyres to my cars , did get arrowspeed once when i was out of work for a few months , they were ok on a cavalier sri, had continental once on the front( civic )only lasted 10,000 miles, buy the best you can afford, the goodyear i have on the front are still good for grip/ handling and there is 3 mill left of tread
Have been using the Avon zv7 tyres. Initially like them, but had found 2 sets have started perishing badly with cracks appearing in the tread between 2 and 3 years old. A 3 (,just) year old pair were an MOT failure . Have heard of others with this issue.
Avon ZV7s are renowned for perishing with cracks between the tread blocks. All 4 MOT advisories after only 2 years with minimal mileage! My local tyre people and mechanic won't sell them anymore!
Kumho Ecsta PS71 235/65R18 fitted to my 2014 Honda Accord 3.5 V6 coupe. Much better than the standard Michelin tyres that were fitted originally. Loads of traction as they never break free or allow the tracion control light to come on. The Michelins would squeel under hard braking and and spin up when accelerating even from second gear. Kumhos are quiet aswell. Very happy whith my Kumho tyres.
Those are sleeper cars, and basically as fast as my 370z... so it becomes a fwd vs. rwd pro/con thing. Try out the PS4S's if you want to be SHOCKED and laughing at the just stupid levels of traction, especially on wet roads. Allows you to drive at limits you shouldn't on public roads. I'm on my 3rd set and won't go back to brands like: dunlop, toyo, bridgestones... You can also get $100 off 2x per year during certain purchase windows. Second choice would be the new continentals (which in some cases in dry weather exceed the limits of the michelins); Never tried Kumho, maybe if I were to sell the car and it needed tires... otherwise I'll stick with the PS4S's. Once you go to them, you won't go back!!
The best advice I received when I decided to buy cheap tires was actually from the salesman he just told me to slow the f__k down and drive according to the conditions and the tires will work just as good as the best top brand tires and guess what it actually worked 😉
My car use run flats. I’ve decided to stick with run flat tyres and have tried cheap tyres but they have been solid as a rock. You really notice the difference in ride comfort with cheap run flats.
Uniroyal's are such great tires for the price. I once had a customer get 85k miles out of their 65k mile-rated Uniroyal Tigerpaw, with no signs of cracking of the tire or no uneven tire wear.
I’m just about to buy two front tyres for my wife’s diesel Clio and I’ll be going with a budget brand which are £50 each…fitted. I’ve had them before on other cars and never had an issue…she only covers about 5k miles per year and very rarely goes on a motorway…just drive sensibly and to the weather conditions and you will be fine.
tyres on oponeo are 20 to 30 cheaper then the tyre shops and sometimes a lot more in top brands seen a guy looking for 125 for mitcelin that were 70 on oponeo i know u guys cant compete with them but you have with the kumho now u can buy kumho ecowing 195-65-15 for 49e on it thats their budget budget.but their kumho ecsta is their top tyre cost 83e your selling it at 75e and fitted so on line isent always cheaper people should look around keep up the good work cheers..
HaHa Avon are manufactured in Serbia !!!!! I have a couple of ZX7 on the back axle of my car ,,and before my MOT I had a look and there is a crack right around the inside tread on both tyres..They passed the MOT but even so ,Im getting rid.. Driving around I do like them but as they are about only about 25% though there life ,I,m pretty disappointed.
regardless of where they are made, I usually buy products from manufacturers who are trying to build a good reputation and not one resting on their laurels. had good luck with GT radials. Good quality. Got coopers on my 70 stroker mustang. I know tires. Lotta bs in these comments from non-experts.
One of my first cars had NakNang (spelt similar maybe) they had no grip at all in the wet and I used to love sliding around everywhere, it was pretty cool sliding across the road out of roundabouts, but I was 20 years old, I realise now they were probably a bit dangerous. This was some time ago, another experience was having a large bubble/lump appearing on a tyre, different car but another cheap brand. So my experience has led me to buy brands such as Kleber which are a Polish version of Michelin, or the sub brand of Continental called Uniroyal , I'm happy with mid range tyres they are quite a step up from the super cheap tyres.
Thinking about getting Michelin Primacy SUV+ or Bridgestone Dueler A/T (697) but also seriously looking at tires from Thunderer (Ranger HT603, Ranger ATR) and Radar Dimax AS-8. Thunderer is a Thai brand and Radar is from Singapore. Any thoughts?
I bought a set of 4 Nexen Tires from Walmart on special years back and spent all my time getting stuck and spinning at stops had to avoid hills 🤣... So I would definitely never buy a Chinese tire
Petlas is best all around tyres I have them on my 2014 A6 Black ED. ULTRA 18.000 miles now and still happy with them. Comfort, Grip and road noise all around perfect tyres.
Nice review. Great info. I use Chinese tires (US) on my older vehicles since I'm not sure how much longer I will drive them and I've NEVER had a bad Chinese tire. Are they Michelins? NO! But they typically perform safely for 40 to 50,000 miles which is what I expect from a budget tire.
I run chinese tires also (the brand name is Ovation) on my jeep. Trust me, my jeep lost grip even in 4 wheel drive on a mountain turn. I was going 20 MPH. They are trash. But I think some chinese brands are good. What brand do you run?
Chris Xin Zhang I'm running AT tires, they are Ovation Ecovision VI-286 AT to be more precise. And trust me, they are really bad, one of my father's friend put a set of them on his 2010 Honda Pilot a year ago, and he cannot wait to replace them this winter (and mind you, they did not even time to wear down, we are a REALLY small country and we do like 10000 km per year).
Elie Abou Issa Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm a tyre distributor in New Zealand. I know some China made tyres are really good quality, but some are crab. I don't think any single brand can present Chinese tyre quality. I recommend you do a research of Chinese tyre brand, only buy good brands like Delinte, Kinforest, Aolus, Evergreen and etc.
I smile when i come across tyre/oil snobs. If sold in eu or usa thay have standards thay must reach.but if you push your to the limit dont expect any thing to last.
No one changes tyres with good tread. No one wants old tyres. If you only do 10,000 ks a year, your better off with tyres that wear out quicker. Change them every four years. If you do more ks get longer lasting tyres. Four years is long enough to have tyres on your car.
I've always found Yokohama to be very overrated tbh. Avon are a good tyre, they performed well on my e46 M3. I currently run Dunlop on my 500bhp audi and I'm happy with the handling and grip. I run Kumho on my 4x4 off roader and they're excellent.
I'm trying out the Falken Sincera SN250 A/S (215/60 R16 95V SL BSW) tires for my car from discount tire, 2 of them has been installed last week and I'm having the other 2 installed this week after I get the front end of my car's suspension/steering/aliment fixed so I'm curious how the tires will perform the previous tires was the GT Radial Touring VP Plus (215 60 R16 95H SL BSW) and it lasted up to 2 years even though it feels decent, it could have lasted longer maybe if the front end of my car was fixed
I am seriously considering replacing my front 195/60 15 tyres with Autogreen ones rather than mid-range because I only get half the life out of them due to speed humps in my area wearing out the inside edges! 🙄😡
I am intended to buy Yakahame tyres so have watched a few reviews compared with the Westlake. and I found that the Westlake still has reasonable good feedback from the consumers in UK and QZ, can you please explain the reason? Thank you.
Just bought a Autogreen tyre for my wife’s car as the user reviews were very good. IDK how but she usually gets punctures before reaching wear limit indicators and I decide to replace the tyre rather than repair. This will be my first Autogreen tyre purchase.
I had Nankang all seson tyre (AW-6 model). Good traction in all conditions. On my wife car I fit Rotalla Setula 4 Season tyrs. 10.000 kilometres - so far so god.
once you go PS4S from Michelin, ya never go back... I'd settle for the top of the line continentals. As the tire wears down, the PS4's retain a higher percentage of their original traction amount, whereas, the cheaper tires fall off at a faster rate. AKA: ya kinda just get what ya pay for.
Annaite AN600 -- At 11k miles, you would already hear much road noise and feel slightly lesser grip. Nokian WR D4 -- Nice grip in both wet and dry conditions. Awesome braking too in those conditions.
Tristar,auto-grip are very good budget brands from china. On my ford galaxy i use to have 40000 miles easily. but its always depend how you drive your vehicle and most importantly make sure tyre pressure once in a week, proper wheel balancing and finally wheel alignment. Thats the secret happy days 😁
I have 2 chinese tyres on my back wheels since 2013. I've done about 45,000 miles on them. I reckon they have another 2 years in them Not bad for £30 each.
Hi Gerald, why don’t you do a video about the major companies that make tyres, also own other manufacturers/ brands for example Continental made in Germany, Barum (owned by continental) same technology but they are made in Czech Republic, Labour is cheaper, R+D done by Continental and Barum benefits, I used to be in the tyre trade many years ago and give this options to the customers, who generally took our advice, another one is Michelin, they own Riken made in the uk , every tyre manufacturer (ok there maybe one or two that don’t) have subsidiaries that they pass on the millions of pounds in technology and R&D along. You ask the reason as to why? A couple of customers come in for a pair of tyres, first ones a rep and has a flashy Audi and has asked for Continental tyres at say £80 each = £160 job done, next one is a gentleman in his Golf GTI he would like Continental tyres but hasn’t the funds to buy them, I explained that Barum is still a Continental tyre under a different name, the Cost £50 each =£100 job done. Manufacturers would love to see everyone used their tyres and understand that not all people have a decent amount of disposable income for premium tyres, so rather than have a slice of the premium tyre market, they would ether start up another company or buy another company that is in a more economically viable country. that has a good proportion less in wages incentives by the government etc. This ends up that the company has a slice of the pie in two areas now, earning more revenue and only spending one set of R&D etc, there might be some both nothing like that or the big brother. Apologies for going on but I did 12 yrs in the motor vehicle industry and did a lot of tyres, I never sold remoulds / retreads as good quality budgets I didn’t need to. Check out your tyres and drive safe. Phil
Had Kumho PS91 from 2018, and had a problem with them this year 2022. The profile was good, but the side of the tyre was a problem - it soften (inner and outer side was detached). Size 255/30/19 and 225/35/19 - they might not be a good chooice on long therm. - I did liked them tho, until this year.
Hey buddy very informative video, i would like to ask you something, i just bought new tires for my car, they are 15" tires from goodyear efficient grip , but they were from the year 2014, unused of course , but since only 1 costed 127 euros in 2014 i got them on a cheep deal (63 eu) , is it dangerous? they were stored!
Thank you ylli, 7 year old tyres is a no from me. I would replace and not take the risk. Too many examples of old tyres playing a major factor in accident reports. Better safe than sorry is best applied here
I started watching your video and wondering why the tires were so cheap because my car actually takes the exact same size but then I realized this video is 6 years old so I think each of those tires is probably double literally in price right now in 2024!
@@JackRR15 I fitted my 2012 Honda Accord with 225/50/17 Michelin CrossClimate plus tires last year and they are a marvel during all 4 seasons in Northeast Pennsylvania. We average 6 feet of snow every winter and I never came close to being stuck, and most importantly if you drive like you are supposed to they remain securely planted through the curves. They were $944 dollars (727 pounds/850 euros) mounted and balance out the door with lifetime rotation and balancing but well worth the money. 15,000 miles (24,000 kilometers) and entering their second winter now the traction in the snow is the same as when they were new. They also make my Accord handle even more nimbly then the factory Michelin Pilots the car came with. And let me just add on wet roads they make the water seem like it miraculously disappears.
I've been offered autogreen sc1 at £48 or Toyo proxies cf2 at £58, do you think the Toyos will last loads longer and have better grip in the wet 205 55 16 on electric leaf, what's your thoughts
asking review on not well-known brands are just risky. Best bet for average consumers on a tight budget is to use entry level tires from big brand names..
If I need tyres and want to save money I buy decent brand name but second hand tyres with around 80% tread in good condition. They range in price depending on your location. I have saved 50-75% off the new price. I won't touch retreads/regrooves though.
Use your Thumb nail to push the tyre rubber, if it soft rubber mean driving using it more softer but wear of quickly. but you push it the rubber does not dent mean it more noisy and hard feel and can be use more than a year.
I've always bought Michelin until I tried the Autogreen Tourchaser. Other than noise, so far I found them to be equal or better than the equivalent Michelin Energy.
I have had cheap, mid range, and premium tyres over the years and the grip on the premium tyres Conti, Bridgestone, michelin is far superior tread wear is a bit hit and miss I drive on country roads you get through tyres twice as fast as motorway and town driving! I will never go back to budget! Mid range are ok had Barum Avon Kumho but just love the road holding grip and feel of premium brands.
I've had various budget Chinese tyres on various cars and never had a problem. All these comments about grip, stopping, losing it on roundabouts, abs locking up etc is a mystery to me. I just stick them on and drive in dry, wet, ice and snow, and have never skidded, slid or lost control in any way. I just put them on and forget about them.
Yip well said.
This is easy too say until it happens. Quality of the tyre could be the difference between a crash or not. Yes mabye it won't happen but there's a chance it could.
The quality of driving is just as important as tyre quality. A lot of people don't know how to drive in different conditions or how to take a corner clean and safe. I've never had any issues with cheaper tyres most of my mistakes in my earlier years were my own fault due to lack of experience not the tyres.
Drive accordingly for the conditions and know your cars and your own capabilities.
@@gamesmaster1060 it could happen with any tire
Agreed, actually any tires brand also got risk. Even the branded one
Autogreen are a great tyre. Had mine since 2018, 15k miles pretty much all city driving with a few motorway trips and they are just over 5mm all around (I rotate them every six months) and had no issues at all. Our runaround is due new tyres and will get them for this too.
Price is excellent too, just £35 - £38 a corner fitted for most sizes. Don't think I would bother with a part worn ever again now for the cost difference.
Budget tyres have certainly come a long way in recent years, starting to thing high end is just paying for a name now.
High end has it's place and certainly can grip more and perform really highly in many testing conditions. Most people will only notice the mileage and the road noise/comfort, not how well they stop in an emergency or handle around corners etc.. and that is a good thing with safe road users.
Thanks for your input.
Price has gone since 2018 now looking at £ 55 upwards for Autogreen tyres
I'm paying £80 a corner for Pirelli Cinturato P7C2s they're quite, decent on fuel and comfortable whilst still retaining silly levels of grip Well worth the extra money.
I have Autogreen tyres, the same as the one in video, on a BMW, on the rear and so far, after 25k MILES, there are at 5mm of thread
Noise level is very low, and they perform very well overall. Before I had Continental, and the difference is not noticeable.
I recently purchased a set of 4 store branded Chinese winter tire Called "Dynamo" for my aging car with original tire Bridgestone EL400 all season tires.
When the car was new I treated my car with Bridgestone Blizzik and Michelin X Ice winter tires for North Americian winter . I found them good to ok for winter but performance does drops as they wears. These big name brands winter tires were ok for winter and never shines on dry or watery wet road performance.
Initially I don't expect much from the lower priced Chinese winter tire on snow, ice , wet, and dry performance . After owning the Dynamo Chinese tire this winter I was amazed how good they were on snow, ice , wet, and specially on cold winter dry pavements . It definitely feels better on dry and wet than the original Bridgestone Turanza EL400 and what surprised me the most was it feels even slightly better than my more pricy premium Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season tires on wet and dry performance on pavements. The plus side were it's quieter and rides smoother than all those premium high priced tires.
How wrong was my choice by buying only big brands premium tires.
The difference is that your part of your money goes to an oppressive and a bully of a government.
@@Krabbykrabbkrabb same with israel
@@Krabbykrabbkrabbu talking about the US government that fuxx's up countries and kills innocents and feeds their local bullsh*t news all day so they remain dumb and fat.
I've used Chinese tires branded as Hercules, Merit, Boto, Kapsen and Kinforest. They've always been a great value and I've never been unhappy with their ride quality or performance whether they were summer or winter radials. Considering how many vehicles are on China's roads, I think it safe to say that they have quite a bit of experience in that regard.
I remember when Kumho were new and considered by people to be crap because they were Korean. However they are excellent tyres with a great reputation now that people have got use to them.
I gave Kumho a go this year but i'll never buy them again, the noise is unacceptable and the grip isn't that great either. Still crap tyres imo
Kumho .....!! I.ll never bye again. .... a GOOD car with kumho seem a cheap car.... noise, and dangerous in wet road. .... not for family.s car
@@Fuckyoutube99 I guess it depends on WHICH tyre you brought and what vehicle you are running them on. I had a fantastic experience with the Kumho ECSTA KU31 after running both the Bridgestone RE040A and RE050A Potenza also the Goodyear EAGLE F1 GSD3 'flagship' tyre. The Kumho A/T & M/T range of 4WD & SUV tyres have proven to be excellent in all areas also vs other 'name' brands. Always 2 sides to any story I guess .
@@caste405 Rubbish! Put the right Kumho's on your vehicle and you would NEVER say that. I can tell you the same thing about Goodyear EAGLE GSD3. (Goodyear's FLAGSHIP wet weather performance tyre at the time)
Correct me if I am wrong but the fuel pump means the fuel economy of the tyre not how many miles a tyre will do, rolling resistance
Quality tyres last longer , get better mpg , make for safer handling and give better road feel . I got fed up with cheap tyres and now love my michelins - they actually save money in the long run .
Andy Nixon don't know how you work that one out. But at most each tyre will save you £10 over its life. The mpg difference is almost non existent. Do some research and you'll save some money
@@soldiers303 Even if quality tires don't save Andy money how much is handling and stopping distance worth to you and your family? I love my Michelin CrossClimate+ tires. We average 6 feet (1.83 meters) of snow a year in Northeast Pennsylvania and they are a gem, I have no problems getting around whatsoever. In the summer they make my big old 2012 Honda Accord feel like a much more nimble car around the curves or changing lanes on the highway, very well planted, solid and stable. I've also succumbed to the cheap tire scam when I was young, ill informed and broke. I thought it was normal to replace my tires (tyres just for you haha) every year. Oh, and I let other drivers do my research for me. That's why I bought the Michelin Crossclimate+'s... It's amazing, these people drove 200 million miles (322 million kilometers) on all brands of tires, gave real world unbiased ratings and I didn't even have to pay them lol.
Cheers from the states mate and Merry Christmas.
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@@soldiers303cope
I put budget tyres on my car hated them . Sold and lost most of what I paid for them… bought Michelins .
Had a few premium tyres sliced and busted due to potholes.
Put on cheaper tyres and if the get sliced open I don't feel the pain of high cash outlay.
Some of the Chinese manufacturers offer lifetime warranty as well.
On a percentage of treadware left.
If sliced brand new, new tyre fitted.
i prefer just Yokohama´s
I always buy cheaper tyres and never had a problem.Gripmax,Black lion,Runway etc.I think people who insist on the so called top brands tend to drive German cars.
You are a very honest person God bless you
I've used Goodride SA37 on my daily and Goodride Sport RS on the track. Happy with both. Excellent value for money due to being on the cheaper side but still performs very well. I also drive to the conditions.
Yup, Goodrides are very good in my experience.
I tried those and i had to change them almost straight away.
Seriously dangerous tires, no grip whatsoever, I was losing the rear at a moderate pace and they would instantly overheat and even smell.
Never again, I was even worried selling them to someone for how dangerous they are
@@99ron30 Do goodrides comfortably without the sound
Do goodrides comfortably without the sound
@@robzecc nonsense 👎👎👎
A lot of people who say they would only buy brand name tyres and would never by Chinese, should have a close look at the sidewalls on many brand names tyres. They may be surprised where many are being made.
That is 100% true. My grandmother's 2009 Chrysler T&C was built with Yokohama tires. Those Yokohamas were made in Indonesia. I would encounter many Sumitomo tires that were made in Thailand or China.
It is not about where they're made. It is about the technology in the tyre. I don't think chinese manufacturers put a lot of effort in Research and development which often results in tyres which are acceptable in some conditions and bad in another. You might get a tyre which does well on a dry or slightly moist road but becomes a danger in heavy rainfall.
Or you might get a tyre which sticks to the road really well but doesn't last two seasons because they took a very soft compound.
Making tyres is finding the best possible compromise in every aspect. They're much more then rubber with some grooves .
ALL ARE MADE IN CHINA!!!ALL ! LIKE IPHONE,WHERE IS THE POINT IF IS USA IF ON THE BACK IS MADE IN CHINA!NOT WORST
.... China ... China .... where we are and what we are doing ? Stop steel industry in Europe, US and buy Chinese cars and so on 😂 It is cheaper. 🙈 We do not care about it but children of our children will be slaves belonging to Great China. Stop it ! It is not too late !!!
I had Nankang (B rating in the wet) tyres on my small car, they were horrible on dry tarmac and dangerous in the wet (very slippery and wheel spin from a car with only 55bhp). Then I replaced all four of them with Michelin with a A-rating for wet, it was like heaven. I couldn't get any wheel spin from it and every ride in any condition was very reassuring. These Michelin's cost twice as much, but it's the best investment anytime for me.
I put a set of Nankang trailer tires on my boat trailer in 2004. In 2008, three of them had totally failed; just simple blew out, and they were inflated correctly and were not overloaded. Those POS's couldn't stand up to the SW Nevada heat, even though tire covers were used and the tires didn't have but a few hundred miles on them. In replacing them, I went with "Hi-Run" due to cheap cost...another mistake. You could watch those crap tires wear before your very eyes over the same few hundred miles. Replaced those with Maxxis 8008's. Now that's a damned tire and a half! Never again will I cheap out on tires.
Michellins are over priced tyres and they don't last long either!
@@sametoruc556 they are best of the best. Michellin, Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear are all great.
@@sametoruc556Performance tyres have softer compounds, that's why they wear quickly.
Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 6 repeatedly come in the top 3 in blind tyre tests. Definitely not overrated and night and day compared with some Chinese crap.
@@MattyEngland well overpriced.
I think that Avon tyres are manufactured in Serbia and not Siberia!
Believe it or not Yokohama produces the best tyres. Trust me.. they glide over surfaces and at the same time gives great control. Plus it doesn't affects the mileage at all.
My favourite tyre. Add more air and still corner like you mean it.
I want grip not glide!
I have a staggered auto green SSC5 setup on my bmw 1 series. 245/40/18 in the rears and 225/40/18 in the front. Loads of grip, great handling and water displacement. Only had them on for a week or two so yet to confirm about them being long lasting but no signs of damage or wear as of yet and I’ve driven the car fairly solidly on them so far!!
Did you ever replace them? Or they still going? What did you think of the performance over the 1yr you've had them?
@@Jaytriple1 interested to know this too as due to purchase some new in a few weeks time. Another tyre I'm looking at are GT Radial in 225/45 R18 but are £30 more each tyre
The best cheap tires I ever purchased are Ohtsu tires. They are basically Falken tires under a generic name brand. They can last up to 4 years, as long as wheel rotations are done timely.
Rick Says actually ohtsu is the original company it’s been around for a long time
Buying cheap tires is really to deceive your self. In an comparison test done by the Swedish car magazine “Vi Bilägare no 5 march 27-2018” the braking distance from 100 km/h to 0 km/h on wet tarmac was 54.6 metres with Continental tires and 74.1 metres with budget Goodride tires!
Another way of describing this is that when the Continental tire equipped car came to a full stop the car with Goodride tires flew past at 50 km/h! Imagine what that would mean if there was a mother with a pram crossing your way! I know not all budget tires are as bad as this example but think again. You get what you pay for. Buy premium brands!
B Ohlsson buying expensive tyres just because they are expensive is not deceiving? Since when automotive magazines got credible?.Be smart.
Who said you should buy expensive tires because they are expensive? There are magazines and there are magazines. And how should you yourselves decide which tires are good or bad? Never heard of the magazine, why not try internet. Get smart.
saw that video. but the video was back in 2015. china phone was crap back then
Sorry about that. It appears You must be a subscriber to get access to the article. It is also in Swedish but the graphs and pictures can be understood even by non-Swedish people, I think. The tests where done in Texas in November 2017 at a specially designed test track.
*braking :-)
I mainly fit Vredstein Ultracs now. Absolutely awesome tyres. Great levels of grip, reasonably priced and long lasting too.
It would be helpful to include the depth of tread when new. My last set of khumos were 6.9mm - 7.2mm when new! Their published depth is 8.00mm!...usable down to 1.2mm means many miles are missing!
I just bought supposedly new autogreen tyres and they were 7 mmm new not the recommended 8 mm
The rain rating is not about "grip".
It is measuring the capacity of getting the rain out of the tire, in order to not aquaplan.
The noise yes, it usually is linked to the grip.
More grip, usually equals more noise.
I thought this was gonna have real tests. do braking distance tests between all 3 sets
I would never buy Chinese tires. Remember that tires are a very important part of your car, they determine how the car will handle, brake and ride quality. I have Yokohamas which are made in the USA.
I'm exclusively Yoko as well.
You’re an idiot
They are made In China the EXACT same way just costs less to pay the workers £1 an hour instead of £10 🤦🏼♂️
Yokos ain't that great I'd honestly say nankang ns2 handle better performance wise ie throw round a bend and there made in China.
If you base your buying on where they are from rather than how they are made you're silly.
Michelin, Continental, Pirelli, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Dunlop... all make tires in China.
Always do your reaserch about tyres and prices. German ADAC site is something i always chek before buying new tires. For this winter i will buy 16" Kleber HP3 for 55 Euros (4th overall) . No:1 Was Continental 860 but it's 90-95 Euros. So i will try to drive slower and save 150 for oil service and brake pads.
Please what year were these particular ratings?
You go into any fitters and they'll quote you what they have on the shelf. Your average punter that drives a focus won't care. If it's new, passes the MOT it's a winner. He ain't going to notice noise, fuel consumption, wet grip, dry grip or stopping distances. Just drive along at a steady speed till they wear out. He'll only notice there's no tread come mot!
I'm a Chinese who studying in Europe,let me tell you something.Tires in China sells much cheaper than Europe,for example,the same size tires in video,I can pay 45eur for a Dunlop,or 58eur for Goodyear,even the most expensive one is Michelin,just 75eur.And the price of the same tires in Europe,20%more than in China.Tires of my car is 235/60R18,Iv found the exactly same tires: Pirelli SVAS between two countries.93eur in China and 131eur in Spain.So why the tires are so expensive here?
I suppose import and VAT taxes are lower in China than in Spain.
gt shelby - Probably because they’re fake!
The cost of labour is lower.
Great review Ger, to be honest i would always buy middle of the road when it comes to Tyres pardon the pun... so Avon would be the tyre i would buy here.
Thanks very much, I couldn't agree with you more. Avon the best option for me there too :)
Springer spaniel Nowt wrong with Avon’s, British tyre also 🇬🇧
@@casualagent7250 avon tyres are manufactured in Serbia, I'm dubious of their British claim
Avon is made by Cooper.
I always go for mid range on my car too. I don't see any point getting an e rated Marshal for £51 when a b rated Avon is £56.
The more sensible you treat your tyres, the longer you keep your tyres (if you drive like Lewis Hamilton your tyre shop will love you and if you drive like your grandmother he will hate you more)
The problem with china brands are its ability to take bumps and rubber cracking prematurely. Sure youll still have grip as it is rubber but youll feel a lot less confident driving as you feel the slides specially in the wet or a hard full stop.
I used Kumho PS31 for my two cars. Excellent tyres, as good as Michelin Pilot 3 that were used before, at much cheaper price.
The PS31 don't have the same lateral traction and don't give as much warning when stepping out either.
Great video, everything you say is right on the money. The only time I found myself driving on dangerously worn tires was when I bought cheap tires. Nothing like driving 12,000 miles and needing the tires replaced every year. Not only the poor treadwear but chopping and sidewall failures and vibration on the highway. One set of cheap tires I bought all developed a large bubble on the sidewalls one at a time within weeks of each other around 3,000 miles. The shop where I purchased them dealt in cheap tires, you couldn't find a Goodyear or a Michelin tire if you turned the place upside down, but at the time I was low on money so there I was falling for the "They're made by brand name so & so line they gave me" and I bought them for a few years never with good results. The shop told me the bubbles were a 'road hazard' and not covered by warranty, I must have hit a pothole. With all 4 tires? Give me a break! But I do agree cheap tires with tread are better than bald tires, but unfortunately it's a catch 22 because they don't last so you will shortly be facing the same issue. The only advice I can give is if all you can afford is a budget tire, then of course buy them. But if you can afford a better tire (I got a better job and never looked at a cheap tire again), don't be cheap, buy it, you will recover the extra money in the long run if you average the 'price/miles of use' ratio and most importantly you and your family will be safer.
One of our previous cars came with an unknown Chinese brand on them. Had a sidewall failure. Took it to our local trusted dealer who said they had seen the same thing on that brand many times. Problem was while the tread didn't wear that much the sidewalls weren't up to it and at a certain point would start to fail even though there was lots of tread left. He pointed out that people use tread wear as an indicator to replace tyres but that's just one aspect of tyre wear as the sidewalls take a lot of punishment.
strange that never happened to me! 85€ tyres 255/35/20 on my Audi A6 after 18.000 miles still doing good.. A lot of nonsense comments going around!
@@sametoruc556 Ok, you're right, because it never happened to you that must mean it never happened to anyone else. It was all nonsense from the get go, all made up lol.
I had some Avons on my C class and they gave me about 30,000 miles. There was some signs of cracking around the tread but good even wear.
I replaced these with a set of Bridgestones and they gave me almost another 30,000 but they really did crack. 2 mot advisories and they went very hard, to the point of traction control cutting in on "spirited" pull-aways.
Both the Avon and the Bridgestone were fairly expensive.
I then decided to go to a cheap tyre and try them.
Off I went to Halfords and they fitted 4 Sailum tyres. The grip difference was immediate and incredible.
I was really impressed with these. I have recently sold that car and the Sailum tyres we still at 6mm + and excellent grip after covering approximately 6,000.
I would definitely recommend Sailum for the money.
i have used some affordable chinese brands tyres (landsail and rydanz, size 17 inches with 45 sidewall profile). they have good grip and wet performance. However i think they cannot withstand bad road conditions decently as both brands suffered swollen on the tyres after about just 1 year(i believe i had these because i drive fast on bad surface highways).
Just changed to more expensive michelin primacy 4 tyres now with a thicker 50 sidewall profile and hoping these to last longer than those 2 brands.
I have used a lot of no-name brands, out of all of them kapsen i found to be just below hankook in terms of stickiness in the wet, all the other no-name brands skid in the wet, this is just my personal experience. I once used kelly tyres, supposedly a decent brand, but they were horrible in the wet.
Hi pal. What about the fuel efficiency ratings on tyres. Do they give you the best miles to the gallon or is it just a con?
For me, the best bang for your buck is gonna be any SRI (Sumitomo Rubber industrial) branded tire. So this is Sumitomo, Falken, OHTSU, and some Dunlops.
'Triangle' and 'Event' are 2 Chinese tyres I've had the misfortune to try driving on, both of them were absolutely lethal. The triangle especially would just randomly understeer on wet corners, (less than 10mph) and the 'Events' lived up to their name by making every wet drive a life threatening Event.
Both brands were so bad that they really shouldn't be legal in the UK. The compound is closer to hard plastic rather than rubber. More like the tyres you would expect to find on a childs toy than a road vehicle.
My car is a 1996 RAV4 2 door and it still had the original tyres it came with.....205/70R 16 Dunlop Desert Duellers.
Yesterday one back tyre blew out just standing in the driveway …..the rubber was perished and cracking so a replacement set, (no name), on EBAY from THE TYRE DEPOT Melbourne, with fitting and balancing would have cost me A$520.
A year back I bought a set of 4 TOYOTA KLUGER mag wheels on EBAY with 225/70R 16 Michelin tyres with 2.5mm tread depth for A$250 and am now running them as I like the mag wheels and smooth ride.
The Kluger wheels have the same 5 hole bolt pattern in the mags.....had to buy a set of wheel nuts too with locking nuts.
I reckon to get at least another 20,000 Kms from the Michelins......that would be 50-100 Kms a week for the next 10 years at the rate I use the car.
I've had a great run using aplus brand Chinese tyres.
ive used LingLong Crosswind and HiFly HF201 tyres, handled and held up as good as the goodyear assurance i had before them
Brin Gts nonsense. Absolute bull.
No they didn't. I sold Linglong, HiFly and Goodyear for years. The budget ones are ok for their money sure but they don't compare to any Goodyear at all.
The lateral grip of both the Linglong and HiFly are much less than the Assurance and don't have anywhere near the same durability.
@@bremCZ i found Linglong to last as much as Michelin energy Saver. The only drawback was worse mpg. On average 0,5L per 100km. So the difference in price was eaten by the increase in consumption.
@@jorakarandas6592 That and the 20 metre longer stopping distance from 100kph.
@@bremCZ never bothered me. I drive like a grandpa :))
Just had a set of Rotalla tyres on my car recently as I use it to drive on to building sites. I have been pleasantly surprised with the RH01 which is about the top end of their range. I had Michelin energy saver tyres previously and have to say that there is no noticeable difference in everyday drivability, in the dry the RH01 preforms marginally better under braking than the energy saver and only marginally worse in the wet, I expect a shorter potential service life as this is achieved with a softer compound, but given that the tyre can match the performance in other respects and I am yet to have any tyre make it past 10,000 miles of service I have no reason to invest the premium brands.
my main advice would be to pick a tyre suited to your use. If you drive pothole covered puncture traps of a road or on building sites all the time buy something you can afford to replace when it is damaged, as a cheap tyre in good condition is in almost all cases (at least where EU standards apply) safer than a damaged tyre regardless of brand. If you drive a sports car buy tyres to match its performance.
Great info Andy, thanks for the well thought out comment. Much appreciated.
Awesome, as long as tires are decent and not too "falken" expensive, affordable brands work for me.😎
Falken use to be a good tire about 25 years ago.
I have tried cheap tyres upto premium, and tbh the cheaper tyres are a false economy. 225/45/r17
I got 15k miles out of a set of Avon ZV7 £75 fitted.
I have 35k on a set of Michelin Primacy 4 tyres currently at around 1.8-2.4mm and going but will need changing soon (1.6mm uk legal limit).
I always try and rotate my tyres front to rear, left to right and right to left, as my car is front wheel drive.
I picked up a Z4 with Eagle F1's on the front and Nexen NFera SU1's on the rear. Very impressed with both but particular the Nexens in both wet and dry
I always liked Barum, good grip in wet and lasted with high milage.
Chinese tyres I'd recommend and I'd avoid, that's one I can answer.
Chinese tyres I'd recommend.....Landsail. Such a pants name but solid performers with long life and a decent price. Our work fleet cars tend to have them, I assume as a result of a decent deal with the wholesalers. Drove a number of cars on Hankook and Avons (who were the previous suppliers) then again on the Landsails and there were no significant issues to mention, they also lasted well and didn't turn into a slippy slidey mess after half the tread had worn.
I'd highly recommend avoiding Triangle Tyres (I know!) like the plague. My dealer put them on my old Focus RS when it went in for a service. Turned it from fun and predictable to sloppy and slidey. They also charged me £120 a corner for them which stung, they promised mid rangers such as Kumho or Hankook, that's what I got instead. At the time I'd just been made redundant otherwise I'd have stuck with Michelins on that car, but that was that. They came off and were replaced with Pilot Sports the moment I was back in work!
Thanks for sharing your experience Steven 🙏👍
What about tires coming out of Thailand?
Apparently, they invested heavily in the industry to beat out Chinese cheap tires with affordable, yet higher quality.
over the last 28 years or so i have only ever fitted michelin/ goodyear tyres to my cars , did get arrowspeed once when i was out of work for a few months , they were ok on a cavalier sri, had continental once on the front( civic )only lasted 10,000 miles, buy the best you can afford, the goodyear i have on the front are still good for grip/ handling and there is 3 mill left of tread
Have been using the Avon zv7 tyres. Initially like them, but had found 2 sets have started perishing badly with cracks appearing in the tread between 2 and 3 years old. A 3 (,just) year old pair were an MOT failure .
Have heard of others with this issue.
Have had the same problem with them.
@@allanbiggs1685 same here and tried both ZZ5 & ZV7 models.
Avon ZV7s are renowned for perishing with cracks between the tread blocks. All 4 MOT advisories after only 2 years with minimal mileage!
My local tyre people and mechanic won't sell them anymore!
Kumho Ecsta PS71 235/65R18 fitted to my 2014 Honda Accord 3.5 V6 coupe. Much better than the standard Michelin tyres that were fitted originally. Loads of traction as they never break free or allow the tracion control light to come on. The Michelins would squeel under hard braking and and spin up when accelerating even from second gear. Kumhos are quiet aswell. Very happy whith my Kumho tyres.
Those are sleeper cars, and basically as fast as my 370z... so it becomes a fwd vs. rwd pro/con thing. Try out the PS4S's if you want to be SHOCKED and laughing at the just stupid levels of traction, especially on wet roads. Allows you to drive at limits you shouldn't on public roads. I'm on my 3rd set and won't go back to brands like: dunlop, toyo, bridgestones... You can also get $100 off 2x per year during certain purchase windows. Second choice would be the new continentals (which in some cases in dry weather exceed the limits of the michelins); Never tried Kumho, maybe if I were to sell the car and it needed tires... otherwise I'll stick with the PS4S's. Once you go to them, you won't go back!!
Kumho Solus user. Best tires I've had.
@@drsjlazar Kumho Solus TA11 ? Is that what you have,
The best advice I received when I decided to buy cheap tires was actually from the salesman he just told me to slow the f__k down and drive according to the conditions and the tires will work just as good as the best top brand tires and guess what it actually worked 😉
My car use run flats. I’ve decided to stick with run flat tyres and have tried cheap tyres but they have been solid as a rock. You really notice the difference in ride comfort with cheap run flats.
Do you have a review for sailun tires? I hear its quite great with a cheap price!
I always use Uniroyal. Always served me well and the price is usually reasonable.
Uniroyal's are such great tires for the price. I once had a customer get 85k miles out of their 65k mile-rated Uniroyal Tigerpaw, with no signs of cracking of the tire or no uneven tire wear.
@Shaman96 you get what you pay for mate
I’m just about to buy two front tyres for my wife’s diesel Clio and I’ll be going with a budget brand which are £50 each…fitted. I’ve had them before on other cars and never had an issue…she only covers about 5k miles per year and very rarely goes on a motorway…just drive sensibly and to the weather conditions and you will be fine.
Best advice,Stay.far away from any budget tyre,I've experienced countless.failures And since pay more for reputable tyre brands.
tyres on oponeo are 20 to 30 cheaper then the tyre shops and sometimes a lot more in top brands seen a guy looking for 125 for mitcelin that were 70 on oponeo i know u guys cant compete with them but you have with the kumho now u can buy kumho ecowing 195-65-15 for 49e on it thats their budget budget.but their kumho ecsta is their top tyre cost 83e your selling it at 75e and fitted so on line isent always cheaper people should look around keep up the good work cheers..
HaHa Avon are manufactured in Serbia !!!!! I have a couple of ZX7 on the back axle of my car ,,and before my MOT I had a look and there is a crack right around the inside tread on both tyres..They passed the MOT but even so ,Im getting rid.. Driving around I do like them but as they are about only about 25% though there life ,I,m pretty disappointed.
regardless of where they are made, I usually buy products from manufacturers who are trying to build a good reputation and not one resting on their laurels. had good luck with GT radials. Good quality. Got coopers on my 70 stroker mustang. I know tires. Lotta bs in these comments from non-experts.
Chinese tyres have cheaper rubber that resists less heat cycles. That is why they became hard after 10kkm, and perform worse
What’s your recommendation for an E91 on Irish roads (mainly West Cork - crap roads)
Thank you for your candid comments sir. Very useful as I will need 2x new tyres soon!
40k miles? I ate uniroyals in 5k km. Driving hard fwd skoda octavia
One of my first cars had NakNang (spelt similar maybe) they had no grip at all in the wet and I used to love sliding around everywhere, it was pretty cool sliding across the road out of roundabouts, but I was 20 years old, I realise now they were probably a bit dangerous. This was some time ago, another experience was having a large bubble/lump appearing on a tyre, different car but another cheap brand. So my experience has led me to buy brands such as Kleber which are a Polish version of Michelin, or the sub brand of Continental called Uniroyal , I'm happy with mid range tyres they are quite a step up from the super cheap tyres.
I’m using Greenlander tyres now. L-Zeal56. All good and quiet!
Thinking about getting Michelin Primacy SUV+ or Bridgestone Dueler A/T (697) but also seriously looking at tires from Thunderer (Ranger HT603, Ranger ATR) and Radar Dimax AS-8. Thunderer is a Thai brand and Radar is from Singapore.
Any thoughts?
I bought a set of 4 Nexen Tires from Walmart on special years back and spent all my time getting stuck and spinning at stops had to avoid hills 🤣... So I would definitely never buy a Chinese tire
Nexen it’s korean tyre ,once I had them on my c4 I never had problem.
Petlas is best all around tyres I have them on my 2014 A6 Black ED. ULTRA 18.000 miles now and still happy with them. Comfort, Grip and road noise all around perfect tyres.
Nice review. Great info. I use Chinese tires (US) on my older vehicles since I'm not sure how much longer I will drive them and I've NEVER had a bad Chinese tire. Are they Michelins? NO! But they typically perform safely for 40 to 50,000 miles which is what I expect from a budget tire.
Thanks for sharing Chris. if you have any Chinese brands names that you would recommend be sure to post them.
I run chinese tires also (the brand name is Ovation) on my jeep. Trust me, my jeep lost grip even in 4 wheel drive on a mountain turn. I was going 20 MPH. They are trash. But I think some chinese brands are good. What brand do you run?
Elie Abou Issa Did you use MT tyre? or AT? HT?
Chris Xin Zhang I'm running AT tires, they are Ovation Ecovision VI-286 AT to be more precise. And trust me, they are really bad, one of my father's friend put a set of them on his 2010 Honda Pilot a year ago, and he cannot wait to replace them this winter (and mind you, they did not even time to wear down, we are a REALLY small country and we do like 10000 km per year).
Elie Abou Issa Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm a tyre distributor in New Zealand. I know some China made tyres are really good quality, but some are crab. I don't think any single brand can present Chinese tyre quality. I recommend you do a research of Chinese tyre brand, only buy good brands like Delinte, Kinforest, Aolus, Evergreen and etc.
I smile when i come across tyre/oil snobs. If sold in eu or usa thay have standards thay must reach.but if you push your to the limit dont expect any thing to last.
The problem is that the standards here in Europe are depressingly low.
There is no standard for lateral grip in either region.
my mother loved avon she bought from once a week
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Is that why your mother got Avon tire marks on her lips ?
Ding dong.😅
No one changes tyres with good tread.
No one wants old tyres.
If you only do 10,000 ks a year, your better off with tyres that wear out quicker. Change them every four years.
If you do more ks get longer lasting tyres. Four years is long enough to have tyres on your car.
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I've always found Yokohama to be very overrated tbh. Avon are a good tyre, they performed well on my e46 M3. I currently run Dunlop on my 500bhp audi and I'm happy with the handling and grip.
I run Kumho on my 4x4 off roader and they're excellent.
dunlop suck and just junk your audi get a real car.
I'm trying out the Falken Sincera SN250 A/S (215/60 R16 95V SL BSW) tires for my car from discount tire, 2 of them has been installed last week and I'm having the other 2 installed this week after I get the front end of my car's suspension/steering/aliment fixed so I'm curious how the tires will perform
the previous tires was the GT Radial Touring VP Plus (215 60 R16 95H SL BSW) and it lasted up to 2 years even though it feels decent, it could have lasted longer maybe if the front end of my car was fixed
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@@Brandon-ji7nv US/Canada= Tire. England/Europe(?)=Tyre.
I am seriously considering replacing my front 195/60 15 tyres with Autogreen ones rather than mid-range because I only get half the life out of them due to speed humps in my area wearing out the inside edges! 🙄😡
I am intended to buy Yakahame tyres so have watched a few reviews compared with the Westlake. and I found that the Westlake still has reasonable good feedback from the consumers in UK and QZ, can you please explain the reason? Thank you.
With Yokohama you have the same quality like the best brands for less money Yokohama it’s one of the best!
Avon tyres top notch
Just bought a Autogreen tyre for my wife’s car as the user reviews were very good. IDK how but she usually gets punctures before reaching wear limit indicators and I decide to replace the tyre rather than repair. This will be my first Autogreen tyre purchase.
Your opinion about Avon zv7 195/50/r16 for Yaris?
I had Nankang all seson tyre (AW-6 model). Good traction in all conditions. On my wife car I fit Rotalla Setula 4 Season tyrs. 10.000 kilometres - so far so god.
once you go PS4S from Michelin, ya never go back... I'd settle for the top of the line continentals. As the tire wears down, the PS4's retain a higher percentage of their original traction amount, whereas, the cheaper tires fall off at a faster rate. AKA: ya kinda just get what ya pay for.
Ps4s on my genesis have amazing grip. You are right
PS4S are very expensive....
Annaite AN600 --
At 11k miles, you would already hear much road noise and feel slightly lesser grip.
Nokian WR D4 --
Nice grip in both wet and dry conditions.
Awesome braking too in those conditions.
Tristar,auto-grip are very good budget brands from china. On my ford galaxy i use to have 40000 miles easily. but its always depend how you drive your vehicle and most importantly make sure tyre pressure once in a week, proper wheel balancing and finally wheel alignment. Thats the secret happy days 😁
In 1.5year, 15000km run edge broken 4-6". I have very bad experience with China make ultra brand tubeless true in which we placed tube
Probably as you out atube inthem
I have 2 chinese tyres on my back wheels since 2013. I've done about 45,000 miles on them. I reckon they have another 2 years in them Not bad for £30 each.
What kind
Hi Gerald, why don’t you do a video about the major companies that make tyres, also own other manufacturers/ brands for example Continental made in Germany, Barum (owned by continental) same technology but they are made in Czech Republic, Labour is cheaper, R+D done by Continental and Barum benefits, I used to be in the tyre trade many years ago and give this options to the customers, who generally took our advice, another one is Michelin, they own Riken made in the uk , every tyre manufacturer (ok there maybe one or two that don’t) have subsidiaries that they pass on the millions of pounds in technology and R&D along.
You ask the reason as to why? A couple of customers come in for a pair of tyres, first ones a rep and has a flashy Audi and has asked for Continental tyres at say £80 each = £160 job done, next one is a gentleman in his Golf GTI he would like Continental tyres but hasn’t the funds to buy them, I explained that Barum is still a Continental tyre under a different name, the Cost £50 each =£100 job done.
Manufacturers would love to see everyone used their tyres and understand that not all people have a decent amount of disposable income for premium tyres, so rather than have a slice of the premium tyre market, they would ether start up another company or buy another company that is in a more economically viable country. that has a good proportion less in wages incentives by the government etc. This ends up that the company has a slice of the pie in two areas now, earning more revenue and only spending one set of R&D etc, there might be some both nothing like that or the big brother.
Apologies for going on but I did 12 yrs in the motor vehicle industry and did a lot of tyres, I never sold remoulds / retreads as good quality budgets I didn’t need to. Check out your tyres and drive safe. Phil
Had Kumho PS91 from 2018, and had a problem with them this year 2022. The profile was good, but the side of the tyre was a problem - it soften (inner and outer side was detached). Size 255/30/19 and 225/35/19 - they might not be a good chooice on long therm. - I did liked them tho, until this year.
Hey buddy very informative video, i would like to ask you something, i just bought new tires for my car, they are 15" tires from goodyear efficient grip , but they were from the year 2014, unused of course , but since only 1 costed 127 euros in 2014 i got them on a cheep deal (63 eu) , is it dangerous? they were stored!
Thank you ylli,
7 year old tyres is a no from me. I would replace and not take the risk. Too many examples of old tyres playing a major factor in accident reports.
Better safe than sorry is best applied here
I started watching your video and wondering why the tires were so cheap because my car actually takes the exact same size but then I realized this video is 6 years old so I think each of those tires is probably double literally in price right now in 2024!
Toyo tires are my first choice
Put some toyo on my truck and ive had them for about 4 years now sitting in hot dry sun all day and they are still holding and no cracks.
Michelin good return for the money.
Dont risk your life and your families life, but reputable brand.
I have Lexani on my 335is and they're great there's no life risking lmao
@@JackRR15 I fitted my 2012 Honda Accord with 225/50/17 Michelin CrossClimate plus tires last year and they are a marvel during all 4 seasons in Northeast Pennsylvania. We average 6 feet of snow every winter and I never came close to being stuck, and most importantly if you drive like you are supposed to they remain securely planted through the curves. They were $944 dollars (727 pounds/850 euros) mounted and balance out the door with lifetime rotation and balancing but well worth the money. 15,000 miles (24,000 kilometers) and entering their second winter now the traction in the snow is the same as when they were new. They also make my Accord handle even more nimbly then the factory Michelin Pilots the car came with. And let me just add on wet roads they make the water seem like it miraculously disappears.
I've been offered autogreen sc1 at £48 or Toyo proxies cf2 at £58, do you think the Toyos will last loads longer and have better grip in the wet 205 55 16 on electric leaf, what's your thoughts
You had three tires to compare but you left out the YOKOHAMA which i was expecting you to review
avon... so that lady who visits my mom selling nail polish and lipstick now sells tires. huh.
Avon is made by Cooper tire
asking review on not well-known brands are just risky. Best bet for average consumers on a tight budget is to use entry level tires from big brand names..
I'd much more rather get a inexpensive tire from a well known brand then get a cheap tire from an unknown company
I like Pirelli but recently we went to several tire places and they didn't have them, could be they are expensive.
Just get either: Top of the line continentals or the michelins PS4S's. Cheaper and BETTER than the Pirelli's
If I need tyres and want to save money I buy decent brand name but second hand tyres with around 80% tread in good condition. They range in price depending on your location. I have saved 50-75% off the new price. I won't touch retreads/regrooves though.
MissFoxification retreads haven’t existed for like 10 years
@@Brandon-ji7nv You should google things before you open your mouth.
www.beaurepaires.com.au/commercial/truck-tyres/retread/
@@Brandon-ji7nv they do for trucks but nobody would dream of putting them on the tractor unit.
Use your Thumb nail to push the tyre rubber, if it soft rubber mean driving using it more softer but wear of quickly. but you push it the rubber does not dent mean it more noisy and hard feel and can be use more than a year.
I've always bought Michelin until I tried the Autogreen Tourchaser. Other than noise, so far I found them to be equal or better than the equivalent Michelin Energy.
Milestar is a solid performer in my experience. I also had great luck with Nankang. Both are made in Taiwan if I'm not mistaken.
I didn't like mile star. Tried EPIC tire at TKingdom. Feels better
I have had cheap, mid range, and premium tyres over the years and the grip on the premium tyres Conti, Bridgestone, michelin is far superior tread wear is a bit hit and miss I drive on country roads you get through tyres twice as fast as motorway and town driving! I will never go back to budget! Mid range are ok had Barum Avon Kumho but just love the road holding grip and feel of premium brands.