TF2: Coolest Unused Content! Nail Gun, Dynamite Pack, MVM BLIMP!
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- Опубліковано 2 кві 2017
- The best of TF2's "hidden" items. Items, images, functionality, unusual effects and more hidden in Team Fortress's game files.
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What ARE these unused files? Why are they unused? And how awesome would it be if these files actually made their way into a future TF2 update?
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What's the coolest unused content you've found in TF2? What would you love to see make it into the game for real?
Casperr A call of duty weapon witch makes any class invincible and everytime crits. It will be awsome and so fair and balanced. It's my original ideea !!!!
What if the water balloon was unused summer content which could be coming back
Casperr I think it is the ludmila, a minigun for heavy that had the model of the Natasha. It's stats were:
If you hold down secondary fire, every hit would give you 3 hp, but while that it had a 25% slower firing speed.
On right click (and and left click), it would fire 10% slower and spin up 20% slower
Unusual Cheaters Lament with Halo effect.
YOU ARE SO NICE
Iron Gauntlet project
waterballoons filled with gasoline for the pyro.
Brandon Velde Thats actually a well sounding concept!
Brandon Velde good idea, pyro can extinguish players with it, like this!
**throws gasoline balloon at a burning ally**
Um, forget I said anything...
It is a thing now but it’s a gas can
There's a gas passer
For pyroland
A sapper that functions like a bomb actually is one of the coolest ideas I've ever heard for a sapper!
But if it doesn't also function as a sapper how would you stop the engie from just removing it without the sentry killing you? You can't sap and then reveal yourself, so the only thing you could do is either stab and deploy, kiling yourself to destroy a sentry, or deploy and just try to evade the engie and his team for however long it would take the bomb to detonate. I can't see how it would work without being super overpowered.
Colonel Dust Wasnt his idea... it was
Karma chargers
Colonel Dust I think thats a thing in the custom weapons server
xXx_Eli_the_Quickscoper_xXx HD Karma Charger doesn't make ideas,he finds items on the workshop and uses mods to show off how they would actually be in game
they tried that and it made the game too grenade focused it is what caused medics in TFC to be flag runners and a pick class
Imagine if they introduced new maps to mvm that feature classic TF2 maps but destroyed and slightly remodeled for waves. Each wave is more intense due to shorter distance, giving the missions a higher skill cap and likely a higher drop rate.
That wouldnt make sense to the lore as the 2fort etc are blu and red owned and mvm takes place in mann co facilities
@@loserx8910
Who cares, really? TF2 lore, although being good, has never really been pivotal to the game. If you want some sort of botched explanation: after the Mann brothers die, Mann Co. and the mercenaries fall back to the old Red / Blu properties.
4 years ago. The hope for updates in Casperr's voice.
😥
@@Casperr roasted
The water balloon kill icons look a lot like a loose cannon reskin. The reason I'm saying this is because of the two different sizes of kill icon.
I bet the water balloon was a pyro secondary intended to be used in conjunction with the neon annihilator, much like the jarate/bushwacka combo.
imagine:
wave 666
5 tank
4 blimps
SHITSHITSHITSHIT
... Wave 666 has... Hold on... I think... 8 tanks? Adding blimps to that mess would be murder.
wave 666 is pretty easy if blimps took more damage from bullets it wouldn't change that much the only hard part of wave 666 for me when i was playing scout as the hordes of crit robots (mainly the heavies) if i jumped they could pin me against the wall and i would die because i wouldn't be able to kill them if i'm stuck to the top of the skybox
IS PRIVATE Puddy I gotta question. How would the blimp even work? Just drop down scouts etc?
from what i've seen in raw mvm_mannhattan file
it has a thing called blimp_test
that thing is on the hatch (ya can't see it in game)
and it will play tank deploy sound only.
+crazyrandomsoldier, they would probably do that and if they got to the hatch they would drop a bomb into the hatch
It would be so cool if they made an "upward MVM", and at the end the blimp appears and slowly circles upward until it gets to the very top and drops a bomb.
GhostShipSupreme yes!
DrIvanRadosivic Like ctf against bots?
A good idea would be a sort of payload styled mode where you moved a cart with a missile instead of a bomb on it to a point where it could be launched at the blimp would be nice. Dunno if this would be done multiple times or not but I don't know.
DrIvanRadosivic That would devastate flagrunning (which is already kinda fading since release of tf2 over TFC)
And I am FOND of flagrunning so I'm against that. But, I see where ur coming from.
maybe lets do 2fort mvm HUH? THE BLIMP DROPS A BOMB WHEN YOU FAIL
OH MY GOD, I JUST HAD THE GREATEST IDEA.
The water balloon could be for pyro!
It's like Jarate, it extinguishes team mates but you throw it at enemies to cover them in water, make them wet, and they take minicrits. The catch is, this could make Landshark Pyro a real strategy!!!
Scrap 'O'
Who cares? They like anime, so whatever.
You're very confusing...
orrrrrrrrrrrrr
2 in stock (cuz they are kinda shit)
on hit: applies WET for 5 sec or idk idc
mele attacks gain mini crits
lets say regen is -1sec than normal(so like mad milk but -1sec not + , -) , BUT
when in water regen is 2,5sec faster (cuz logic)
ofc it extinguishes players
now downsides
on wearer, gives marked for death till you unequuip it
when unequiped: mark for death for 4 sec
THAT IS ALL
IDK WHY IM GIVING YOU MY STEAM ID BUT WHY NOT
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Maks Graze ew a weeb
Pretty sure Karmacharger already showed off a dynamite sapper concept EXACTLY like the one you described.
yep, alot of the weapons showed here are in ctf2w
May his legacy be forever
yep
Halo effects?
*Ahem electric hat protector*
Yeah, but the Halo looks a bit cooler. It's cleaner.
That Sniper is a Spy!
(Also, ur cig is poking out)
"We got a big Pyro update coming up soon guys"
Yeah... _soon_
What, you mean jungle inferno?
Harrypotamus ! No the new engineer vs demo update
Ideas for stats for a dynamite "sapper". Placing the sapper starts a 10 second countdown, if the "sapper" is not removed in that time, it creates an explosion that does 650 explosive damage (enough to take out a full hp wrangled sentry) to everything in its blast radius (including the spy that places it so look out!). It would also be a "silent sapper" in that it gives no cue that it's been placed, the engie has to pay attention and watch their buildings to see if one's been placed. Downside is that the sapper does not deal damage nor deactivate buildings while attached, greatly reducing the strength of stab 'n sap strategies. The idea is to have a more stealthy sapper that is either all or nothing in regards to its high risk / high reward.
I think the “absorb damage while cloaked” attribute might mean that the damage taken will refill your cloak rather than your health
Or maybe, during cloak, your cloak bar goes down more in order to negate damage.
Maybe for the "Absorbs health while cloaked" The spy would also have his health passively drained while cloaked. It sounds like it could be a bit broken but also a really cool concept.
6:30 I think it means it absorbs a bit of damage that the spy takes when clocked.
I think the dynamite pack actually sees use during Scream Fortress. If you take a close look at the exploding pumpkins, you'll see it strapped to the pumpkins.
Possible stats for that dynamite sapper idea:
8 seconds countdown time.
All in radius of sentry gets damage and knockback on explosion
Sentry still active when armed
Limited amount of dynamite (3)
Agree?
The blimp could drop robots from the sky
9:23 little do you know TF2 will never die (Unless TF3 comes out but you know how much Gabe hates the number 3)
water balloon......... Water balloon filled with Gasoline would be a neat idea. like say ya throw it and it wets down an area that can be lit a blaze
Gas passer question mark
the guy actually predicted the gas passer
aaaaand it's the worst weapon in the game... (except for mvm)
Imagine if for the 10 year anniversity Valve finished a bunch of unused content and put it in the game.
imagine if valve still had a staff for tf2
For your sapper dynamite pack idea, I love it. I think that would definitely create a better distraction than sappers, meaning you help your team even if it gets removed. It also reminds me a lot of Spy vs Spy, which makes this idea even better in my opinion
Take notes valve
they do they are the hardest lurkers to be known to mankind
Blimp boss? You mean MOABs from Bloons Tower Defense?
Cole 1800 lol
Stop
Cole 1800 yos boi yos
Destroy the blimp and giant robots come out. It would be interesting. Like Manhattan but worse.
@@bencorner3536 B.A.D would be very proud, like 300 scouts and 2 mega rapid fire soldiers.
I think the “Absorb damage by cloak” thing meant that you could take damage as spy while cloaked and not have it give your position away but the cloak would go down significantly faster.
*A blimp is coming through!*
Well fuck
Zapsilon Heavies would be the phlog pyros for the blimps
Your dream sapper is in the workshop!
I love the dynamite sapper idea! Tuxedo Terrorist is the real role after all!!
How do i make the Tuxedoed Terrorist do the lobster dance?
what a better start would be for a explosive saper (3:06) is works like a basic saper but when the building is destroyed it explods dealing damage to any one and the explosion is the size of the demos sticky and the explosion dose 15 dps and can light the player on fire but it can do the same for the spy so it can also light the spy on fire and also it has a 2 sec. recharge time so if a spy is shaping a tele they can not over use the saper they have to wait
4:44
Acid water balloon!
That would be so fun
I always imagined the blimp's role to be like a support machine, like, making it drop robot Soldiers using the Air Strike, to mix things up a bit, and also to give tanks a much more threatening characteristic. Tanks are just plain and boring, but if they used some kind of cannon or sentry in them, it would certainly make it much more interesting to fight against.
7:54 "MOAB, burn it!"
"Ground Combat"
HA EXCUSE ME??? PYRO WITH A JETPACK????
7:36 "a big pyro update coming soon"
-the words of a fool
The water balloon would probably be a sniper weapon, as the water balloon could be full of pee.
thevideogamecritic ya it might be a jarate reskin
potato muncher Probably.
+thevideogamecritic there's no point in making a kill icon for a jarate reskin
bi color Isn't there different kill icons for swords?
+thevideogamecritic I mean, there is no way you can kill someone using a jarate; in fact, the jarate itself has no kill icon. The same applies to a possible jarate reskin
The madlad running around at 3:20 with the sun on a stick tho
The charged airblast was actually used in some VSH or FF2 server for either the Flamethrower or Backburner, and I know at one point the Backburner in x10 actually had that attribute but the entirety of the Backburner's ammo pool would be consumed upon airblasting.
The Explosive Hacker
Stats
Explodes builds rather than sapping them and damages anything nearby
Has an 8 second fuse
Has only 2 hits by a wrench
The Blower
Airblast can now be charged
-40% Fire Damage
When the Jungle Inferno Update released on October 21, 2017, the Sandman's baseball does not stun anymore, it now "slows" down the enemy's move speed (depending on the time and distance the ball had to travel to hit the target) and the Guillotine does not crit anymore
9:09 Or the blimp could just not have anything to do with the bots, it could be very slowly moving over the map dropping in non ubered robots, using the base jumper effect, and have it so the soldiers direct hit does a lot to it, it could also be used for a specific map like one for the front line update.
4:43 quick theory, it might have been a pyro secondary, you throw water on an enemy, and you combo it with the neon anailator to do critical hits, or to extinguish teammates
Me : hearing what casper said on 5:15 thats me i always get an achievement on tf2
I'd get that tropy effect and rename the hat to "The over achiever"
I'll show myself out now...
"big update coming soon" 😔 if only it was still 2017
Hey Casperr! Great vid as always :D! Just wanted to know when might best loadouts for each class #3 come out.
the coolest thing would be if you heard that mvm horn sound then a cutscene plays where all of the characters look up and the tank turned into a blimp and then engieneers have too build anti air devices and you have to protect him, and its like highlander and you need on of every class, i dont know XD.
I wouldnt be surprised if the 'achievement' effect was a part of a cut cosmetic you'd get if you got all achievements in the game. Something to say "Yeah... I did that". They probably cut it when TF2 began getting more achievements down the line, making this effect more and more difficult to get.
Maybe when they officially discontinue their work on the game, we'll get it then.
The start is the same gameplay match in your "TF2 Pyro Update: What we know"
In the first ever beta , scout used to have SMG . In second trailer scout holded in his hands a nailgun
Tbh I can see the blimp being a boss like the robot teleporter where it'll fly in and hover while it constantly bommbard players with air dropping robots and once in a while a 'special' robot drops in and when that robot is killed the blimp takes a metric ton of damage, and any regular robot killed that dropped from the blimp damages it.
They should make a summer update were you can use all your types of guns and it would shot or spray water in a game mode
Fun fact the sniper keeps his pinky out when holding some melee weapons, this is a reference to his true British descendance
An offense based mvm mission where you push a bomb into the robot factory but a blimp is following you from outside spawning robots near you as you progress. Imagine that thing crashing down as you drop the bomb into the heart of the factory, ending the robot invasion forever.
HEY CASPER, I WAS WATCHING SHOUNICS UNUSED WEAPONS VIDEO (YOU KNOW, THE ONES FOUND IN THE SOURCE CODE LEAK?) AND ONE OF SPYS UNUSED WEAPONS WAS A DYNAMITE SAPPER
Most of these weapons are leftovers from TF2's beta stage.
The first showcase of TF2 showed these, like Scout running around 2fort with a nailgun, Spy having a Tranq gun, and Demo swinging a piece of dynamite. Sadly, concept changes made them cut, like the Nailgun was swapped for the Syringe gun for Medic and Dynamite was cut for the stickybomb.
the coolest part i found is that in Gmod you can actually find the models for some of these things in the tf2 files
I really want the Halo effect! I have used them in my SFM posters and it looks so COOL!
There are endless amounts of just unused attributes, and in my spare time, I experiment with them on my server.
8:00 This is interesting, since they also added functionality for robots to use the BASE Jumper.
Could imagine the blimp and let it drop down BASE jumper Air Strike soldiers
There are skins for RED robots in MvM, along with a condition listed internally as TF_COND_REPROGRAMMED. The condition will slow you down for a few seconds, then switch you to the RED team without moving you to spawn. Once it’s removed, you will go back to BLU.
I got the implication that this was a sapper upgrade for the spy, since it also makes the sapper particle effect on whoever has the condition. I see why it was removed though.
-Conditions are just game values that are associated with effects-
Dynamite Sapper idea - 'Short Fuse'/'Dynamite Disabler'
Stats: Destroys enemy buildings and damage neighboring buildings
30 Second cool down
Can be used on one building at a time
+ Does not alert Engineer
- 10 Second detonation timer
-90% damage to players in blast radius
I got the cheaters lament and had no idea what it was so it sat in my backpack until I stopped playing TF2 and sold or deleted my backpack and now I regret every decision ever lmao.
This is gonna sound really weird but stick with me.
Blimp battalion map(mvm 3cp)
After 120 seconds a blimp will spawn moving at a speed depending on the amount of cp captured by the bots(at 3 it goes the speed of the payload when 1 person is pushing). For every cp the players control the blimp is shot at by sams that shoot once every second dealing 10 damage and reload after 6 sams are fired(per launcher)(reload takes 6 seconds). The blimp has 300 hp on round one and increases by 120 every round afterwards(and increases in size). The blimp will drop bots that capture cp every 30 seconds(drops 1-15 bots) and will drop iron bomber bombs every 60 seconds(1-4 at first wave +2 every wave after). After the blimp is destroyed it goes on another 120 second cool down. There are no support bots on this map. There is still a bomb being delivered but the bombs deal damage to your base instead of instant win. If the blimp reaches your base it will start dropping bots with bombs(1 per wave of bots dropped by the blimp). Your base has 1000 no and bombs deal between 100-300 damage(damage lowers the less time it has been carried by a bot).
I think I got everything. I will try to learn to make mvm maps so I can make this, or get someone to help me make this. Any thoughts on the balancing?
Guess. The blimp will have soldier and demos with the BASE jumper.
The blimp was the tank for mvm_mannhatten because the map doesn't have the design for regular tanks. It was removed (why I think it was) is because multitasking on a tank, multiple bombs, and gatebots was probably too much for playtesters.
I'd figure the flyswatter and baleful beacon would be reskins of the whip and volcano fragment. Like the fly swatter has the same sorta shape and those things can give a bit of a whipping. And the beacon is just a lit lantern, it'll set things on fire.
Viking the Mad if u go to karmachargers custom weapons server then the beacon is a weapon check it out its fun
GREAT video idea casper!
I used the "Absorb" attribute on a custom weapon while messing around with a mod a while back, if I recall correctly it simply increased the damage resistance from cloaking, so it's not too interesting, but it's still kind of cool for a watch concept.
Maybe a circular MVM map where there is some building in the middle surrounded by open ground, and a blimp circles overhead in a slowly tightening spiral. You would never be fighting only a blimp, but need to balance upward DPS and keeping the robots at bay.Maybe it has a weak spot that can only be targeted from directly below, where the robots drop. Engineers can either be constantly relocating or sitting in the center area as a last stand, making them a little less dominant in the meta.
What if the blimp became something that was up above, that was supporting, it did an AOE speed boost to robots like the conch, or AOE healing (not as strong as a medic), or made them minicrit, and if you killed the group of robots it spawned with then it would fall and explode, maybe 3/4 a tank health? of course it would be up above, but there could be a window or something that would make it crit, or a certain robot that is stronger that "wirelessly control" the blimp, so if the certain robot dies, the blimp falls and explodes
There would indeed be a way to balance the blimp: It deploys robots and slowly goes to the bomb site, but it NEVER goes away and you can end a MvM session by destroying it when it's facing the robot factory, causing it to crash into it and explode.
I liked the trophies effect. A trophies Berlin Brain Bowl would be a dream unusual.
I got a sapper idea!
The Silent Breaker
-Doesn't alert engineers about the sapper
-Takes half time to sap
-Sentry still active
-No sapping sound
Kinda overpowered
2:11 i dont think he understands what an emp does
If you look closely at the metal reserve on the Engineer's dispenser, I'm pretty sure that you can see a pack of nails.
The Water Balloon
Pyro Secondary Weapon
On hit: Splashes water on target and a small radius around it (About 3/4 the size of the Scorch Shot blast radius)
Those affected are wet with water (Can be critted with the Neon Annihilator)
Recharge rate similar to Jarate
Throw on burning allies to extinguish them and immediately refill charge (Or increase the recharge rate)
Nah, that's useless and extremely situational.
Give it a secondary ability like the Mad Milk or Jarate does. Or else it's a straight downgrade from those two.
Casperr actually you should have used the trailer clips for the very old TF2, they actually used the weapons, and if you watched the dynamite did NOT work like the stickybomb launcher, and instead it was more like a cluster grenade, an initial explosion followed by 3 sticks of dynamite going in different directions, before dealing more damage, personally i would like it to replace the stickybomb launcher as I dont really use the sticky nauncher, not to say it is useless though, but the dynamite would have more damage, and it damages be diluted to only 1/3 damage with the clusters, therefore meaning you can clear crowded areas quicker
*Also it would be more fun. Imagine throwing it on the control point while everyone goes for it!
About a year ago there was a sound file added to the game to do with MvM, it is similar to an air raid siren. You can actually listen to it on Sigsegv's channel.
2:01 remember how casperr forgot that natascha existed
That "Absorb damage while cloaked" sounds more like damage resistance or immunity where damage effects your cloak meter instead.
MVM Blimp Bosses: Small Blimp, (regular) Blimp, and Giant Boss Blimp (all are bosses, but the Giant one is supposed to act/be like the Giant Robot bosses, as well, it/they're a boss.
2:06
“A gun which can do something”
didn’t know he hated spy so much
"Coolest unused content!"
First two things mentioned: "I'm really glad these didn't make it into the game."
+The Bearded Menace just because it's not good for gameplay doesn't mean it can't be interesting
the dynamite pack reminds me of a PDA which reminds me of an idea I had to give the engineer a PDA that self destruct as a weapon which may leave you without a PDA for a while but could be used like a demoman pill. the blimp might had been great if it had platforms and railings like a mini map within the mvm map. but it is a boss so you have to destroy it.
i got this idea.
Blimp drops BASE soldier that are wielding air strike,Blimp also carries a bomb (like tank) and has demage resistance to sniper rifles (instead of miniguns that tanks has)
also they must be a wave of mvm that has a blimp (or more,like tanks,tanks have their own wave) in it
The tranquilizer....
Imagine it in x10.....
U COULDN’T FUCKING MOVE/MOVE UR MOUSE
Dynamite sapper, call it the "Saboteur's surprise"
I bet the description of the dynamite sapper will be along the lines of: "so one man can die happy"
That achievement unusual should be put on a hat and given to people who have all the achievements unlocked
This has probably already been said, but those water balloon icons could theoretically be applied to a scout or pyro secondary called "big splash" (or something better I'm not very good at it) to either soak them in gas (to increase fire damage?) or water (pair with neon annihilator...)
Dynamite sapper stats:
Explodes after 7 seconds
Ticks faster when closer to exploding
Anybody can take it off
Does no damage to buildings (unless exploded)
mvm blimp: exists
btd6 players: *intense sharp object throwing noises*
5:07 Reminds me of the Anti-Freeze unusual.
2:33 I think a reason that the C4 is unused because it was probably going to overwrite demoman’s Code
That Dynamite Sapper would definitely be called the Bomb-Voyage.
for the absorbed damage while cloaked, Valve can make it so the damage taken wouldn't be healed fully, or some cloak will be removed depending on damage taken
It would be cool if there was a map designed with the blimp in mind in such a way that the blimp would insert support bots (e.g. snipers, spys, scouts) to different locations of the map. this would make it so that players have a little more knowledge over where the flank support is coming from instead of having magical gates that only spys spawn in. also, since the team would be able to expect these "flank sub-waves" more powerful enemies could be balanced on the flank. maybe have flare pyros with pocket meds?
Little did casper know this is in tf2c
The Water Balloon could be a Medic Primary that rather than shooting syringes it would throw out a water balloon which would put teammates out, the downside would be that it also puts out enemies so you can't just throw it into a mosh pit of both teams on fire.