Jason Lee And The Evolution Of 360 Kickflips
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these conversations are so important because the first generation of skaters who invented skating are still alive to tell their stories. once they are gone, we will only have what was recorded.
Skating history is genuinely very cool and an emotional trip once you go down the rabbithole. I never learned to skate but I respect is as a form so much it's very inspirational to me.
Absolutely. The early 90s are especially interesting because modern street skating was evolving so rapidly. Dudes were raising the bar higher and higher every year.
@@emeraldcelestial1058same. I’m 46 this year. Never could even Ollie. Wished I could, but my life growing up and skating just never lined up right. But THPS, skate videos and documentary’s, and Skate 2,3 and soon 4 were important to me.
Loosely defining the word important
Hearing Jason Lee talk about skating so knowledgably is pretty weird, but also pretty cool. I didn't know Jason Lee was a skater until *years* after I'd watched him in My Name Is Earl, so to me he'll always be an actor first, skater second (even though in reality it's the other way round lol). Hearing him talk so fondly of skating is awesome
He's also a photographer. He's published a few books.
He’s also a Scientologist. Guys lived quite the life.
@@bartholomewjackson6534 he left Scientology around 6 years ago now I think
And you'll always be a poser first to skateboarding 😃
He gives you the tutorial in skate 3
I don't know anything about skateboarding. But I watched this, and I really want to bring back The Pow.
I've always loved Daewon's effortless looking tre flip, a thing of stylish beauty.
Kelly's 360 flips really are amazing. Awesome to hear J. Lee appreciate them.
“The Pow” bit gave me Seinfeld vibes 😂
#bringbackthepow
I'm 43 and Jason Lee and his time was my run with skating. I wish I had my old boards from back then.
I can remember the smell of the wheels, boards, trucks and even the vibration of the ride in my mind. It was that time when skaters were demonized and for me in a small town they refused to let us skate anywhere and we petitioned to get a skate park but the city wouldn't zone it until years later. My friends dad built a half pipe but I was more into street. Then I went to BMX and never got back on a board.
I'm 40.. we still have heaps of empty skateparks here in Australia from when the councils started all of a sudden throwing them up everywhere overnight when the Tony Hawk video game first blew up. Unfortunately they had no idea how to build the parks and alot of them were useless for Skateboards and Bmx. Its crazy how the sport has evolved, but I still get nostalgic for the old days. Awesome seeing Jason talking about skating again. He is still coming down from his Scientology buzz.
@@norbitcleaverhook5040 littles wusses won't skate today!
Would be great to show all these tre flips ion screen as they mention them. No hate love the show.
Just on repeat in the corner
level up
Gotta love Jason Lee
Yeah this show would improve greatly with a touch more production
I agree
Much respect Jason Lee, skated with him and Mike Vallely in the late 80's at a Let's Go Skate promo tour in Austin, Texas one of the best days in my LIFE as a skater rock on "Earl" genuinely love and respect this guy so much.
I was there, too. Riding a "Bonite" Mike McGill model. That was when I realized that there was no living to made skateboarding.
Dude, My Name is Earl being cancelled is one of the biggest national tragedies there is.
@@christopherwedemeyer2993 There was money to be made selling Bonite boards. They de-laminated so quickly kids needed a new one every couple weeks.
That demo was so much fun.
The passion of skaters is contagious. Brilliant stuff.
The “pow” conversation almost sounds like it’s straight out of a Skater version of Seinfeld
It's crazy how most of modern skateboarding comes from Rodney Mullen. Dude is a legend
He’s the best skater. THE KING! 👑
Almost all modern skateboarding is directly inspired by something rodney has done. Like even though Rodney didn't do hardflips first. If kickflips hadn't been invented by mullen, who knows how that trick would of progressed.
What a legacy. Like there's all kinds of wicked shit you could leave a legacy in but skateboarding is just so inherently gnarly, to leave that legacy is just 🤯
The G.O.A.T
I mean.. he IS the father of skateboarding, after all.
I was so surprised and stoked to see Jason immediately credit Nate Jones and his style. I have always been a huge fan of both. Those two guys are all-time favorites.
He’s exactly right. 90% of 360 Kick Flips these days are 360 Pressure Flips.
Not tre flips then.
Yeah 360 pressure flips are alot easier than 360 flips because the pressure flip is all back foot
I hadn't thought about it that way your right 🤔, when I do my 360 flip I use my front feet alot
@@OZZYMD14-S how many feet you have, bro
@@deathcat6382 yeah ,the funny thing is, when i argue that i dont flip. they say its an impossible. even though its far from wrapping.
Luan was born within the pow and has now become the pow itself
Luan had to add a ka-pow
Landing a 360 kick flip in my day was only eclipsed by the impossible, he is humble because he ripped on his youth. Cheers to Lee
I remember doing impossibles, 360 shoves, one-foot ollies, 180/varial flips, everything to manual or out of manual, that was my era. could never land the 360 flip. that is the one that separated the men from the boys.
but do you remember the.... PRESSURE FLIP lol
Ed Templeton was the king of impossibles and nollie impossibles
@@helpfulcommenter Be weird like me. Could do varial/360 flips, heels even landed a few double heels. Could never kickflip. 😞
Jason Lee and Ryan Reynolds could pass as brothers 😂
Let's see Ryan kickflip tho
@@infinidominion I said brothers, not clones lol 😆
I thought the same thing lol
To this day at almost 37yrs old. A clean 360 flip is still my fav trick
I'm not a big skateboarding fan (Not a hater either!), but watching you all talk with Jason is really fun and engaging. Makes me want to learn more.
"What's up with the dangle?"
"I don't know, but I don't like it" Lmao
"I would watch Reynolds Frontside flips and get angry"
... Same
I'd spend hours in my slightly banked driveway trying to emulate his frontside flips. Never even came close to as buttery....
I can’t remember who did them like this but i liked when people would frontside flip but it was like a hard flip/ body varial
@@wilsonwallace8755 Chad Muska. People would call them an illusion flip, because of it looking more like a hardflip varial.
@@shaunhutchinson4707 And now people call vertical frontside flips the Muska flip. Imo it's a better name than illusion flip
I want Jason Lee is more serious acting roles. He is an amazing actor. I'm 34 and grew up watching him skate and then transition to movies, I've seen alllllll his stuff,even all his voice acting stuff. Gawd I love this man.
I never did land a kick flip with any regularity. But I remember skating with some younger kids that could kickflip but were not able to ollie. I was so surprised. Maybe it was just a local thing. But when I was learning to skate, the ollie was trick number 1.
My cousin never got into skating but could somehow do a 360 flip any time. It was all he could do. I was so jealous. I could never land it.
you're right, trick progression went: ollie>shove it>kickflip>heelflip.
@@Geetaloo123 remember no comply?
Mine went, Ollie, heel flip, shuv, 180 kick flip, then kick flip strangely. Could never land a kick flip with any consistency though.
Skateboarding class with Mr Jason Lee, love it
The fact that he's wearing a cardigan makes it that much more interesting, honestly.
@@dj-kq4fz the cardigan is on point
Danny Supa has a great 360 flip. Smacks both feet and stomps it.
Would be sick if they got an editor to put some clips into the show.
I saw Jason Lee Tre flip the hip at the NSA 90 contest in Hawaii. It blew my freaking mind!! And Matt Hensley won the high Ollie contest! Such good memories!!
How cool is it that we have pro grandpa skaters now, Jason Lee was the coolest fucking thing around for so long and he's making me feel old looking at him now! He's still fucking awesome
freakin love jason! hope he comes back on soon! .. best interview ive seen on 9club:)
Tiago is incredible at everything lol
when I was 19 and my knees didn't hurt I had a really fuckin great 360 flip. I didn't dangle my back foot but I naturally caught it with my front foot first. of all the tricks I used to do, the 360 flip was my favorite. I wanted mine to look like Stefan janoskis from that one line in mosaic before he fs flipped a set lol
Love this show man.. I've learned so much from these vets. I am 38 and this has had me crave skating again. I'm getting back into. Thanks guys keep this up 🤙🏼🤙🏼💯💕
I really Enjoyed Jason Lee on your show great interview
Mullen is such a humble and lovely dude that he credits Lee with the Tre Flip.
Brian Anderson has an awesome tre flip. And more recent, Pedro Delfino has a mean one too.
havent watched much of pedro, but I back BA's 3 flip 100%
Mike Mo had an amazing one. Brian Anderson for sure, the dude still does! never forget Geoff Rowley, his were so powerful
Love this guys enthusiasm. 🔥
We finally have older people guilting the younger people on skateboarding for not doing it right that’s awesome
Lol, the dawn of the skate boomer age
@@snerdterguson Not using boomer right. The true sign of another ass.
@@x808drifter not understanding that “boomer” has multiple meanings is the the true sign of another ass.
One such meaning would be one who says how much better it was in their day.
PS: ultimate sign of another ass: replying rudely to an 8 month old comment to insult a person who had insulted no one. Congratulations, you were brave enough to be a jerk to a stranger on the internet. Ought to be awarded a medal for that level of courage.
I just love how skateboarding transcends age at this point in time. I myself learned 360 flips just about 3/4 years ago, and I am in my 30's. I couldn't understand how to do it back in my younger years but thank God I still managed to learn it and YES to the pow! No dangles in here! #BringBackThePow
360 POW!! Damn I could listen to these stories for hours. Rodney was a beast!
Skateboarding got so big that those little intricacies didn't get passed on. Like when I skated around 2000 no 1 talked about the pow, the board sucking up to your feet. It was just so the trick. That's probably why it disappeared. No one trained it. We didn't even know it was a thing.
It was more about finding the board after the trick then making the board come to you.
Jason Lee was Ryan Reynolds before Ryan Reynolds was Ryan Reynolds
This podcast deserves more love ❤️
This makes me want to get 360 flips back now. I used to have a pretty good one with the Pow , and I don't get the dangle leg either. Catching the flip tricks proper is a very good feeling.
I don't know anything about skating and I still found this conversation interesting.
all this cool conversation and jason is rocken the "get off my lawn" old man sweater.
this video earned a sub love hearing how passionate Jason lee is about 360 flips and his knowledge is bar none. Glad he is still all about skating and hollywood didn't go to his head
I feel like Dylan rieder had the best Tre flip but no one really acknowledges it underrated
it was just so.......lofty
People always give him so much credit. Let other people take some things. Josh Kalis tre flip over the can >>>
@@sh666nks yeah I get what you mean didn't have the pow like kalis but it was amazing nonetheless
Respect
when i think of dylan i think of that impossible over the bench, gravis part maybe?
I haven’t skated anything in years! But after watching Jason and he happiness describing this stuff makes me want to get my kids board at try the KAPOW!!
this one is like a sienfield episode, THE POW . love it
Wait a second, I never even put two and two together that Jason Lee from Earl was the same Jason lee from skate videos I watched.
Awesome to see Jason Lee on the show!
"It used to be let's get the pow as loud as we can and the 360 flip as high as we can and now it's let's see how long we can dangle the foot before we have to put it back on......before we crash" 🤣🤣🤣
God Bless you Mr. Jason Lee
It's crazy to think all the holly wood movies he's in but he still influenced skateboarding 🛹
He was running a skate company at 22/3?? He's definitely an og sk8er
He’s so passionate about skating I literaly never knew
Wow I had that Jason Lee farm deck back then but learned the backside wall ride from watching more Blender,Gonz and Natas.Learned the Ollie north mostly from Lee from what I remember.So long ago,damn!👾🤖📡
Andrew Reynolds was always my favorite, something about his lanky yet methodical style was superrrr fun to watch
Style is everything in skateboarding period
Nate... Joooooones!!! Yes yes yes!
Love the Larry David 360 flip explanation - what's up with the foot dangle?
I am pretty sure I remember Jason Lee saying that he invented the 360 flip when he was on Jay Leno back in the day. I guess you could say he helped make it a more prominent trick.
The beginning of this episode was all about him mistakingly thinking he invented it. He said he didn’t perceive that’s what the other skater he mentioned was doing. But end of the day, he admits he didn’t do it first
@@ShaunHensley thanks for the context 👍
Rodney Mullen credits Jason Lee with inventing the modern street version of the 360 flip . Rodney didn't skate street so it's possible his version was a pressure flip as part of a flatland freestyle routine. Jason saw the motion of the board and figured our how to do the version we see today over gaps and down stairs etc.
@@jeffnorthcutt7899 The respect of both of them to credit the other is good for the culture of skating, shows two humble legends and that helps keep the right attitudes and mindsets flowing down the years.
Jason’s style was so cool.
Chris Joslin has the best tre flip down gaps, TJ Rogers has a good switch tre too
Jason Lee is my favorite skater. I've had a ton of influences... Chad Tim Tim and Jason Lee were the two that influenced me the most. Style Kings of THE WEEEEK.
I remember being amazed at Chad's clean kickflips and style
I remember all of the sudden Impossibles were a thing. It took the world by storm. Such good memories.
im with jason. i love a smack and echo.lol nollie inward is my favorite no better feeling that finding out you slamed because you stomped it so hard you broke your kingpin.haha
Sounds like an episode of Seinfeld. Can imagine Jerry screaming “bring back the pow”
I was just watching this and the exact thing popped in my head! Crazy!
So, y'all ain't even gonna mention Daewon Song? Dude got crazy 360 flips let alone tricks in general.
Insane, but not much style. Jason lee is all about style
@@byronbass1370 well that true. All about style.
Hey! It’s Coach Frank!
Jason Lee spittin truth about catchin flip tricks…
That Kid. Is back. On the Escalator, Again!
Jason lee is the coolest and Earl rocked!!
That J Lee did a 360 flip on a street board in '87 is pretty damn mindblowing. Thrashin' had just dropped ffs, lol.
It was a cool thing to witness as I am the guy he mentioned in his story who witnessed it 👍🏻
The "Bring Back The Pow" PS is great.
This is amazing because it's making me realize some things like... Alan Gelfand made the ollie (180) on a pool/ramp. And Mullen brought it to street (Hosoi, Tony, and a bunch of other people brought the advancements to vert).
Mullen built on it and invented the kickflip/magicflip and Gonz made it floaty, mobbed, stylish: did it in a different way. Mullen invented the 360 flip and Jason Lee made it gorgeous, stylish : did it in a different way. Then Kalis and others made it tight and technical with the same *pow*, then others eventually tightened it up more and more until it's like a little spiral you catch with one foot, just doing it quick, almost like how people do shove-its. This makes me think of Nyjah Huston, but maybe Paul Rodriguez really brought that in... I don't know. There's so many trends in skateboarding and it's a cool moment now because it feels like everything is fair game. There isn't a hesh/tech binary anymore... you can do alphaflips and no complies, and slappies, skate a jump ramp, a skatepark, and street. Very few popsicles anymore, but there's lots of wide boards, and shaped boards are back, and putting rails on your board is back, it's wild. It's like we're in a mannerist period, where maybe the mid/late 90s/early 00s was the Renaissance? Whatever, it's beautiful.
I hear Brody from Mallrats so much is how Jason talks and uses his hands so much
I just realized this dude was a pro skater back in the day. I actually remember seeing pics of him in sk8 mags.
Lee has the best 360 in the business 🛹
Jason Lee: "It's the beast pow there ever is!"
Jason Lee has the perfect 360 flip.
Them not getting the steezy 360 flip limp leg style was surprising. It's about the effortlessness of it and how ridiculously smooth some people can make it. A huge high catch is great for other reasons.
This is actual skate history, like a classroom, we are watching history
The conversation over the POW! sharply turned into a Seinfeld episode.
The POW! is good. The POW! is great!
You can never deny the POW!, Jerry!
The POW! never fails, ever!
I always remember being in awe of Antwuan Dixon's tre flip
Jason Lee has morphed into a skater Larry David.
It’s crazy man, I remember even basically 30 years ago people not recognizing Jason for being a skater but for being in Mallrats, ya know?
I feel like a lot of kids who grew up on Kevin Smith would be like “What, for real?!”.
Lmao.
Sucks man, he was a legend.
Joslin tre down Davis was nuts.
I saw Earl at The Edge skate park in Western Australia in the late 80s, early 90s with Gonz - Mint!
5:33 is like the pinnacle of the nine club. 🤣
Savanah Slamma 3 is the skate video where I first saw a 360 kickflip. It was done by Jason Lee
@5:56
STICK IT!!🤘 make that deck stick back to ur feet "catching it" so hard it POPS! like an ollie when u snap it!
Literally heard this on TikTok with the animation and had to find the original
It's funny they mention Jovontae Turner, his opening 360 flip in Mouse got rewound so many times that my tape popped
"If make the 360 flip you can continue to be my son" haha he is one of the fathers of skateboarding. "Say? Would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?"
The way I remember it, even in the mid-90s, anyone who did a 360 flip was probably sponsored. At least it seemed that way in places other than California. It's interesting that he was talking about doing it in '87; it would have seemed like it was from outer space at that time.
What’s crazy is even tho Mullen did the tre flip first, he still credits Jason with it, because the modern board.
"it's all about the pow"
"Pau" - pronounced like "pow" - in brazilian portuguese means "dick" (yeah, the genital)
Now think about every single time they used "pow"... I laughed more than I should have with this video.
Coach Frank knows the skills
Yesterday: couldn't do Tre flips.
Today: Did three Tre flips
I figured out the lead knee and foot has to come upward towards you while going in the same direction as the board is rotating as you pop, than its a quick scoop and simultaneous tap to get the board flipped halfway and rotated 180° at the peak of your jump and momentum flips it and rotates underneath your front foot. Then catch with front and step on with back.
Ride away stoked.
Jason Lee: So, we hashtag BringBackThePow!
Chris: No, hashtag…
Jason Lee: Right!? hashtag BringBackThePow!!
Chris: hashtag let’s leave the dangle for another day… you know?…
crickets
Chris is so full of himself, he just likes hearing himself talk, that's why he started a podcast,...or maybe he started it so he could interrupt guests and mess up their stories errytime
I never landed the 360 flip... Kickflip, heelflip, variable, double flip, I got everything but the 360. Now my ankles are too old to keep at it.