Satanic Rituals to Manson: The CRAZIEST Beliefs of Tom Cruise & Scientology
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Ex-Scientologist and scientologist expert Jon Atack is back on the show to talk about some scientology basics - and not so basics, like the real reason behind many celebrities’ decision to join the cult and the crazy beliefs from the Scientology members. #scientology #cults #cultsurvivor
Jon’s links:
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Andrew Gold links:
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andrewgold.locals.com
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Chapters:
0:00 The origin of scientology
05:02 The aim of scientology
11:28 NXIVM Stole THIS
13:21 4th & 5th Force Invaders
17:07 Why people join scientology
21:51 NARCISSISM can take you far
26:09 Who joins?
27:52 Arslycus & Biggus Dickus
28:52 Captain Bill: The Craziest Scientologist
36:37 Hubbard’s True Beliefs
38:27 Tom Cruise, Auditing & Status
44:34 Money vs Higher Status
50:51 Scientology vs Hypnosis
54:50 How celebs took over scientology
56:40 Doing a REAL LIFE scientology ceremony
1:00:36 Charles Manson & Scientology
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski - Розваги
The big question that emerges here is : HOW can people believe all this insanity ??
How can people believe in Donald Trump???
@@richardbierman9856 really scary
@@richardbierman9856 maybe some believe what DT is saying, but not in the depth of religion belief ..
still terrible , though ;))
@@Ana_Sor4ever you do realise some of the evangelical types think God has sent Trump, right?
@@richardbierman9856 maybe some people would think that , but a true christian wouldn’t.
What incredible nonsense is Scientology! Very interesting interview.
Bro world not perfect what about Israel vs pilphinse so don't compare anyone wrong all r equal
@@r.k.m9801what 💀💀💀
Jon is a terrific guest and he is so informative.
YES ma'am, agreed 👍, love from Texas ❣️
YES ma'am, agreed 👍, love from Texas ❣️
Amazing. I could listen to him talk all day
Jon deconstructs scientology so well.
How can people believe this? I'm dumbfounded.
They don't know this until they are $250,000+ in. It's a pay to learn "religion" 🤦♂️
@@kelliintexas3575 it's so crazy and dishonest
Imagine learning this exactly after having spent all that time and money.
@ninjawizard3865 it could cause a depression and anger. If you have extra money, give it to a food bank or take a trip.
I have been astounded at this guests knowledge and how he shares it so that I can easily understand it.
I am wearing my hail xenu hoodie and a string of ghost lights around my neck, representing my body thetans. I think I might wear this for Halloween 😂😂😂❤
😂😂😂
I wonder how many scoentologists that would freak out on halloween. 👻
@@ninjawizard3865 lots I imagine, but there's only around a hundred of them in Ireland so the chance of meeting one would be most unlikely. They're an endangered species. We'll have to put a few in the zoo for posterity 😂😂😂❤️
Hail Yashua JEHOVAH only
@@ugoakusoba4094 not sure about that, jehovah has infinitely more death and destruction on his bloody hands than scientology's paltry numbers. All organised religion is a scam to abuse and rip off the little people and keep them under control.
I still don’t understand how anyone could get caught into this. Celebrities with their noses in the air completely baffle me because now I know how absolutely dumb they really are
And just think how intelligent Tom Cruise considers himself, his definitely got little man's syndrome & Miscavige has as well. NUTTERS, but dangerous nutters.🤯🤯🤯🤯
"Until Ron Hubbard came along and told us what to think." 😂😂 Classic!
Jon would have been the best History and Religion teacher ever 👍
Ok but not mejority it's western countries not all over world mind it's first sir
Alexander Hamilton said, "if you don't believe in something, you'll believe anything."
Awesome! Jon Atack is fantastic! Thank you!🌠🎆⭐️
Jon Atack is a very interesting man. Thank you,Andrew.
Everyone please press the like button we need this information out far and wide, not only on cults but also having critical thinking or we are going to loose our language, and right to free thinking. Thanks andrew good vibes to the universe 🙏 for you at this stressful (understatement) time.
This is one of the most interesting and eloquent guests! Thanks Andrew, really enjoyed all of it. His knowledge and delivery of it is riveting.
And funny
Unless I am wrong and a lot of times I am, Jon Attack is the real deal.
A book containing all the crazy beliefs of TC and Scientology would make War and Peace look like a short poem.
What's TC?
@@thatpaulschofield Tom Cruise.
@@schwabit989 Or Tyrannical Cultist lol
Jon is hilarious, entertaining, and super interesting. Thank you!
Absolutely adore Jon Atack so interesting and informed, completely entertaining at the same time👍👍👍❤️🤷♀️
Sergeant Peppers Lonely Heart Band by the Beatles, look up the cover. The bald guy at the top, second person on the top left, is Aleister Crowley. His symbolism has been used by the Beatles. (and other bands...)
He also influenced LRon Hubbard.
If you are a narcissist, his methods will turn you into something much worse. One example already given by the guest speaker is Charles Manson. Another example is Jimmy Savile.
Wow.. great segment. I'm fascinated by this cult. I can't bring myself to ever refer to it as a church.
Lafayette Ronald Hubbard.. I'd never heard his first name... no wonder they went with LRH. He developed a competitive cult. It's so hard to get out, I hope those who are stuck and need help find The Aftermath and get away. I'm subscribing to Jon, great work. Knowledge is power and truth matters. Thank you 🙏
I'm starting to wonder if we have scientologists in the highest part of our government, as well as different segments of our government. Somebody in power is helping Scientology existand keeping it from being shut down! The nationalists remind me alot of Scientology.
Wow i had never heard his first name either…. Not at all what i wouldve expected! Lol
This gentleman has a wealth of knowledge and beyond. Thank you.
Andrew, you look so tired in this video! Don’t overwork yourself, take some time so you don’t burn out! Fantastic interview, great job! ❤️
LRH believed in everything but dentistry it looks like. In all his photos he looks like an ad for halitosis cures.
This is as crazy as a nomad sitting in a desert cave and hearing voices in his head telling him to kill anyone who doesn't want to join his club.
These ideas are ludicrous even for science fiction let alone a “belief system”.
How does anyone seriously believe this “ religion “? I know the people are smart, so how is it possible to fall for such nonsense?? It’s mind blowing!🤯🤯
I know right?
apparently vulnerable people in transition according to Jon
People will believe absolutely any old crap.
I love John Atack! He is making me ROFLMAO! I think he should be a prerequisite course in high school and university! 😂😂 Keep up the good work Andrew and John! 👍😊
Absolutely FASCINATING!!!! It is a composite lesson of the Craziness of Scientology beginnings.
I deadset just realised 8 minutes in that my mouth had a huge smile on it cause i was giggling so much - great video you guys
It's good!
BTW, what does "deadset" mean in the context you used it?
I've only heard it being used, as in, "I'm dead-set against it," or dead-set against something 🫠
@@Julia-uh4li Its Australian slang lol, so you got it right in your last paragraph, so basically it just means like “seriously” or “honestly” or “no word of a lie”. So for example “I honestly just realised 8 minutes…..”
Jon is one of my fave guests & is incredibly informative. Awesome interview yet again Andrew 🙌🏽
Jon is just great! I love his voice. He speaks concisely and clearly. He talks in a way you can understand! And, boy, does he know his stuff! He read a book or books for this interview alone!
I can't wait for this!
This gentleman explains why my son's father behaved the way he did. Closes a lot of doors on the pain my son and I experienced. I have learned to forgive him for his involvement with this cult.
I love this Guy👍👏👏Jon has so much Humor😂🤣
At the End Jon talks about all the victums of Scientology and I am
feeling very sorry for all the victums 😥
I once made the mistake of filling in a ‘survey’…what a mistake, I was immediately sent a book on Scientology and bombarded regularly with handwritten letters from members…this went on for years…
😢
You poor thing…..
Great to have Jon Atack back! :)
I find it strange that people will believe what this sci-fi writer wrote but don't believe a word of the Bible and what God says.
Amen to that!!
Interesting comment. I find it just as strange and fascinating that people can believe in god and the Bible, as I do the fact that people believe in Xenu and scientology. As someone who did not get indoctrinated in either belief system from childhood, both creeds are similarly weird to me. It's funny that we know that every culture and corner of the globe made up their own beliefs and still everyone still believes they are the only ones who are right.
@@Ginnilini If you belong to a church and decide you want to leave and the church literally will lock you up or chase you down and take you back, that's not a church, it's a cult. I admit I don't go to church as often as I should. I don't fear someone coming to look for me and forcing me to go to a building that I can't get out of.
Men wrote that book too though, maybe they weren't as whack as Hubbard?
The abilities that they promised, are possible elsewhere and otherwise, without their seamy organization.
Big Jon Atack fan here. Great discussion.
First time I’ve heard anything about Jon Atack…very interesting!👍
Andrew, get on Marc to have Jon on. He’s a wealth of knowledge!😂❤
I saw your last interview with Mr.Atack. It was a great interview. So glad you have him back again. Great guy! Good sense of humor. Love him.
Oh yeah I did actually get pneumonia watching SPTV and died unfortunately. Seems legit to me 🤷🏻♂️
Me too 😂😂😂❤
Oh, no! That makes 3 of us!!😂
It’s okay. You’ll be back. 😂
Best guest ever, love this guy!
It’s all so bloody ludicrous. How can people be taken in by this garbage? 😂
Beats me!
Same way people get taken in by anything else?
The look on Andrew’s face. 😂😂😂
John is a pro we need to know the history and propaganda if we want to help others break free
love Jon. great conversation Andrew
WOW! I could listen to Jon forever. Fascinating research and delightful delivery. :)
Would love to hear more about New Age religious cults etc , seems like anyone can be a cult leader with social media and some predatory skills Everyone wants to be a “Healer” aka special Just fascinating! Thanks for your investigative journalism!
What’s frightening is that Tom C and those on the higher OT levels know the fiction/lies and continue to push the cult on those in and recruited.
How f***n insane.
Great interview Andrew .This man exudes knowledge and intelligence for starters. Bery informative and enjoyable
I love Jon and Andrew! Ty❤
Freaking LOVE Jon atak!
Hello Andrew if you think about it Scientology has been emotionally 🖤been murdering families since it started , shame is a word which should be tattooed on their foreheads by the people who have lied as a way of life , I ask myself
FOR WHAT!!!!!
SHARE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS 🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸 join the dots.THANKYOU Andrew and Jon because it sounds crazy but seriously look around you 🙏 this is present still and we do walk amongst monsters 👿
Andrew I really loved this interview!! It was incredibly informative, and I found it to be fascinating lol - the way he was able to simplify/condense/present in layman’s terms the last 50 years of research he’s done into Scientology, Hubbard, Hubbard’s manuscripts (and all the comparative studies he’s done with those writings), and even his interviews with former Scientologists!!
I believe you have a gift for interviewing people, and it takes more than simply being able to ask the right questions… You are an effective communicator - a good listener - and I really enjoy watching your channel. Thank you!
Scientology is sort of like Mormonism. Mormonism teaches that you, too, can become a god, if you do all the right things and learn all the right secret words and handshakes.
Mormonism is also a cult
Scientologist! No thank you!
The things that people will say and do to deny that God exists!
Great information about this ludicrous so-called religion. All religions do have some "out there" beliefs and practices, but Scientology is in a class all on it's own. Scientology would definitely categorize me, thankfully, as a suppressive.
Thank you. I finally know where my many and persistent internal voices came from.😁
I could honestly accept the Xenu, volcano, reincarnation, "crazy" ideas more than I can understand how they treat people in their "church" now. Afterall, it's not really crazier than things we find in our mainstream religious stories. I just can't wrap my head around abusing people, and destroying families.
All religions destroy peoples lives, they live a lie, no matter what religion it is. It’s sad
Scientology is much crazier!
Sounds like you’re a candidate to join up.
@@Desertflower743 😂
And, sadly, that's what they do.
I love Jon he’s so adorable
I absolutely love the epic saga of Battlefield Earth; RH was a genius Sci-Fi writer.
Hello Jon and Andrew, I absolutely loved this episode. Jon you are the only ex-Scientologist a level 25. Who knows now, it’s is all the most ridiculous BS! You are the only X-SCI, that I have understood. Meaning you do not act, like you are an X-SCI. Because of all the interviews, I have tried to listen to with Andrew and others. That gave me an explanation of, true Scientology 😮 without feeling that you are being lied to. Or that had the whole story, you broke this down perfectly. With facts and a lot of experience. Thank you!
It's a Cult!
Tom has Napoleon Complex, and he's holding the whole thing together 😅😂😅
Really cool interview, and so informative about the cult of scientology ❤
Why is it I know more about Scientology than I do the religion I was raised in? 😊
Remember when I was a kid in the 70s and you know we didn’t have cable they used to advertise L Ron Hubbard’s book Dianetics all the Time on TV. My parents just said it was junk. It sounds like Elron Hubbard was on a constant acid trip really.
Nobody IN Scientology can know more about it than than someone like Jon. An ex-Scientologist who’s learned nearly everything about it from the inside, only to eventually realize the truth and dedicate their lives to learning everything those still on the inside are banned from even knowing exists.
1:00:39 Very interesting to hear that Manson was involved with Scientology. Especially considering that he was seemingly using hypnotic techniques on his cult members. I would LOVE to read Jon’s book once it comes out! I’ve read Tom O’Neil’s book ‘Chaos’ about Manson’s involvement with Jolly West, the CIA & MKUltra etc. and I’d love to learn more about the Scientology aspect. It seems as though a lot of these players are very much intertwined with one another.
1:01:49 The 1946 Babalon Working ritual that L Ron Hubbard participated in with Jack Parsons (rocket scientist) has always intrigued me. Jack Parsons was also a member of the Ordo Templi Orientis (Crowley’s cult.) Clearly both Parsons and Hubbard were fans of Aleister Crowley. Ekk 😣
*Side-note: Does anyone know if Scientology has any additional connections with OTO other than Hubbard’s work being heavily inspired by Crowley? Do these cults have any crossover?*
I remember reading a story about 15 years ago written by a guy who had a one night stand with Peaches Geldof (daughter of singer Bob Geldof) and unfortunately for her he had some x-rated photos to prove it. They shot up heroin together, slept together, hung out etc. At around 8am she asks him to drive her somewhere, he did but barely remembers doing so. At 1pm he awakes in a sauna, throwing up everywhere and starts freaking out. He looks around and sees her outside of the sauna on an exercise machine, he’s extremely confused. He then reads some pamphlets and realizes he’s in Scientology’s Celebrity Center in LA doing the purification rundown aka ‘Purif.’
_(Yikes! The purification rundown sounds like absolute torture on its own, doing it all whilst going through opiate withdrawal would be pure hell!)_
*TLDR: Guy does heroin with & sleeps with Peaches Geldof (socialite), wakes up in a Scientology purification center.*
*I bring this story up as I find it interesting that Peaches was openly involved in Scientology for awhile, but not long after she then joins Ordo Templi Orientis and even she gets the letters “O.T.O.” inside a heart tattooed on her arm. Many of her Instagram photos are of stacks of Crowley’s books etc.*
*I’m curious to know if OTO (or any other occult “secret societies”) crosses over with Scientologists? If anyone knows or has any theories please leave a reply* 😊❤️
All roads lead to Rome (Vatican) all famous cults operate the same way.look them up and remember the names.This is prevalent today and still operates. I believe Freemasonry is the biggest worldwide cult.Research The club of Rome,The knights Templer,skull of bones.Luciferians,Cabala,all connected to the light barer SATAN.Very powerful people are involved and their symbolism is everywhere!!
Just ordered Jon’s book A Piece of Blue Sky.
Loving this interview! Watched the ten minute clip first, was so intriqued HAD to watch full interview. Well done!
I really enjoy listening to John. It blows 1:03:00 my mind that this cult , criminal in many ways, exists in "the land of the free". What a paradox. I have recently begun to think that all religions begin as cults . As long as we seek someone, outside of ourselves to save us cults will flourish. The great irony is that in so many religions people increase their suffering rather than gaining relief from it.
You need to spend sometime looking in to what MAKES something a Cult. To classify ALL RELIGION a Cult you are doing a horrific disservice to victims of cults. You have CLEARLY never stared death in the face, which is clear by that statement. Even atheist find religion when they are staring death in the face.
The REASON the entire West is so wonderful is because of the values in Christianity. Man is where all things are corrupted & why people suffer.
I love it when you have John on!
How can you sit there with a straight face😂😂😂?
Jon is definitely grinning the whole time, for sure!
One of the best guests you could have. His book is brilliant. For a hot minute, Amazon stopped selling the book. B&N continued to sell them. I bought ten because I was so scared it would be gone! This man is brilliant!
@blownforgood get Jon Atack on your show!!!!! What a conversation we will enjoy!!!!
Very informative…and entertaining! It’s amazing what people will believe.
I remember the L Ron Hubbard advertisements on tv for his book it was science fiction I always thought I didn’t know it would start a cult
There are zero satanic rituals in Scientology
Brilliant!
Excellent once again
You’re absolutely right there , when a child falls over at a young age , does your mum or dad say , there there you’ll be alright , And the mother says nothing of the father says nothing. This behaviour or example , of no empathy toward a child creates problems in the child’s head which creates problems for the new adult that the child does become. Terrible problems.
Sleep deprivation is a standard tactic of narcissists also
So this cult teaches people to be narcissistic 🤨 I would never go back to my ex knowing what I know now. Wow 😲
Hubbard's stories are just so full of holes if you know your physics, geology, evolutionary history or even just history. How did the Jesus implant work then? did it lie dormant for 74 998 000 years and become active on a particular date? When I was briefly involved in Scientology I read "A History of Man" and it was very discordant with what I knew about evolution. Of course I ascribed my puzzlement to having misunderstood something, but I wasn't quite sure what I could have misunderstood. Scientology is adamant about your having misunderstood if you find flaw in Hubbard's droolings.
Come on Bill, buy your own dresses, don't get a Beard to do it for you. Own it.
Land of the Lost 🤦♀️
This Movie is over long…..
Anyone noticed the overusage of the term Narcissistic ?
OMG I love John!!
My Thetan went clear this morning, yay, 😂😂 2:08
Even if aliens are among us, I doubt it's how Hubbard thought
Did Cruise not learn the bit about controlling emotions? Just wondering as someone who has never been in a cult.
This is so good I've actually created a Scientology folder and saved it. Might actually take notes from it for some university research paper if given the chance. I'm completing my 9th and final degree (the only one for pure enjoyment and not career). I'm completing my BA with a double major in Ancient History and Philosophy. I might be able to use it in a Philosophy argumentative essay or a research paper in one of my final year of study assessments.
People have asked how people get into cults: cults will prey on the vulnerable in some way. You often find cults (in disguise) on university campuses in O Week. For those not Australian, I don't know what your terminology is, but O Week is the week when new students turn up on campus if interested, to look around the campus, and attend information 'classes' in the lecture theatres to show what that unit will be about etc. There are also food/drink stands and stands were different groups can hand out pamphlets. I'm sure the States have these weeks or days, but I apologise for not knowing your terminology for it.
The subject of Trump followers has been compared to blindly following people. As an Aussie, it has always been the general consensus here that the Trump supporters we've viewed as, and it has been many because they always made the news in Australia, people who have a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock.
Just FYI, I'm not a christian, I'm a spiritualist. My heritage is Celtic Druid and I believe in the old ways. My wee Scottish grandma started teaching me ' the old ways' when I was 4 in age appropriate ways, which is normal. Science is continuously proving spiritualist teachings to be correct. The Christian community get their noses out of joint because it debunks the lies and exaggerations in the chirstian bibles.
I wish everyone the best in life, and hope that everyone finds balanced peace within their lives.
Much love from the tropics, by the ocean, from summer in Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
Jesus is love
Haven't you been listening? Xenu created Jesus.😂
R.O.F.L. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Funniest thing I have watched today! ❤
Re Jon's comment of famous people having narcissistic traits, we all have a level of narcissism in us, though mostly in healthy ways.
Famous people with healthy narcissism to give 3 examples is Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Jen Aniston. Then you get the problematic narcissism in people like Cruise and Miscavige.
Narcissism can also be genetic. My maternal side have a narcissism streak. Not everyone is affected, but my female sibling (refuse to call her my sister) is a mid range covert narcissist (think Rachel (Meghan) Markle. My brother is also a narcissist.
I'm finding this podcast extremely informative and psychologically interesting.
If one believes on something, someone and feels happy, satisfy sometimes respected, revered, successful, one doesn't want to just leave it behind.