The TERRIFYING Truth About Romance Scammers' Location
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Pig Butchering already sounds bad as it is, but you’ll be surprised by the real meaning of it being even worse! Journalist Lindsey Kennedy did a fascinating investigation on the world of scams - and it’s scary, and it’s dangerous. Similar to BBC Three's Hunting the Catfish Gang documentary series in Bangkok, it's crazy what goes on in these places, and the world must know. #scams
Lindsey’s link:
/ lindsakennedy
Behind the Bylines - Lindsey's page about her investigative journalism:
behindthebylines.substack.com/
GASO - supporting victims on both sides of the scam:
www.globalantiscam.org/
Humanity Research Consultancy - work with businesses to make sure they don't have this in their supply chains: humanity-consultancy.com/
Cyberscam Monitor - investigating the criminal groups running pig butchering scams around Southeast Asia:
cyberscammonitor.substack.com/
Andrew Gold links:
/ andrewgold1
/ andrewgold_ok
/ andrewgold_ok
andrewgold.locals.com
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Chapters:
00:00 What is pig butchering?
02:46 How they get you
06:23 What makes a scam a PIG BUTCHERING scam?
07:38 This UNBELIEVABLE case Lindsey found
11:15 Who is really behind the scam
13:21 The TERROR inside the compounds
16:33 Going in as a journalist
18:11 HOW many victims?
22:53 How victims are caught
26:40 Meeting SURVIVORS
29:29 Horror
37:17 When you're out, are you REALLY OUT?
40:33 The DANGER of her job as a journalist
43:58 How they found out about these compounds
46:10 Europe too?
51:21 The solution
53:32 How they're scamming you
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski - Розваги
I had a scammer call me and say my kid was in jail and need 1500 dollars bail, i told them nope I would never bail my kid out of jail, get yourself into trouble get yourself out, the guy tried every excuse from the jail is full of drug dealers and gang members, its your responsiblity as a parent ect ect ect. My kid was in the other room home on leave from the army.
😂🙌🏼😂 This is brilliant! I’d have loved to have heard that call! Nice one! 🤣👌🏼😁
trilogy media , channel is the best at exposing those scammers . they scam the scammer.
😂❤😂
Oh my gosh!
That's how mine handled it when I actually was arrested. I sat there for weeks lol. It worked I never wanted to go back ever again. Thank God my life is really good now.
There's the Grandmother Scam. I got a call , a male asking for help. He said he was my grandson. I asked why did he sound funny. He said his lips and mouth had stitches in it. He told me that he'd drank alcohol and hit a car. He needed 5 thousand dollars for bail out of jail. He gave me a phone number of a lawyer and a case number. My son, a cop was at my house. The so-called lawyer called me. My son took the phone and told the "lawyer " that he would give him a number to call and told him it would be a three way call and determine if he was legit. The man asked what was the number to. My son told him that it was the Unit Police Post. The lawyer hanged up the phone. The caller had a Middle Eastern accent but he was trying to act like his mouth was sore. I've worked with Middle Eastern doctors before. That's why the voice sounded slightly familiar to me.
I always tell them I'm at work and call me back on ###-###-####.The local number of the F.B.I. works like a charm!
Once I was called by someone pretending to be my grandson. He said he was in jail in Los Vegas and needed 10k for bail. What he didn’t know was my grandson was at my house in MI the day before and because he was in the service I knew where he was and there was no way he was in Los Vegas. I just laughed at him, told him I knew he wasn’t my grandson, and hung up.
Actually also a very popular scam here in Germany, performed by gangs sitting in Eastern Europe countries or former Yugoslavia states like serbia and also in Turkey. The amounts they steal per victim are unfortunately between 40k-80k I read in the media.
So glad I was able to catch this. I'm a BSA Compliance Specialist and Certified Fraud Investigator for a financial institution. Education and getting people to listen and understand is key. I've seen people lose millions and pig butchering is huge right now, but I've dealt with all of these scams. I wish more people would delve into these topics.
Blessings for your important work.
Imagine all the people
living for today....🎶🎶🎵💗
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I need your opinion,a camgirl added me from tinder on snap, sent me legit snaps but I assumed were fake especially one was on her ig, she genuinely shared interests,but she couldn’t FaceTime or send audios to me cause of her contract with the managers. I ended up liking her but after a week she asked for money to help her pay for her contract,I said no and she threatened to kill herself if I did not cause she loved me and I was gonna help her,so I didn’t but another different account told me she cut herself and the managers wouldn’t call the ambulance unless I did, so I did…she “passed away” next morning and she said I was gonna go to jail as well as from separate accounts with many followers, was I scammed?
Whats next? Authorities just claimed" Not in our jurisdiction" . FBI, interpol are totally silent and not helpful at all !!
Lindsey Kennedy exhibits a lot of signs of severe PTSD herself, I hope she is somewhat looking after herself and there is someone watching after her wellbeing. Poor people but also poor Lindsey. This has been a great bit of work! Well done, Lindsey!
Pray, tell us, what are the signs of PTSD she’s exhibiting?
@@AInUnitedKingdom high anxiety. Possible dissociation (which you’d probably need to continue doing what she is), fight or flight because she is living a life that makes her a target etc. I could be misreading on account I myself have CPSTD.
@@AInUnitedKingdom 🤣
It's so good to see people who are trying to expose modern-day slavery and trying to make a difference. You can't change the world, but you can help a few people and it's worth it.
That’s why I can’t believe that people put info and pictures of their kids on line.
They usually take the imagery from platforms that you can’t do a reverse image search 👀
You can’t live your life in rear of being scammed or being a victim of crime. You can take precautions and be vigilant and wise
This lady is amazing Andrew and so brave. These vile greedy individuals need to be taken down. Thank you ,great podcast.
Yes, they constantly get properly dealt with by Scammer Payback channel! 😉 They will just start up again in another call centre though.
Apexchargeback have take down so many.
And have also recovered a lot of stolen funds
If anyone have been a victim and need their funds back that is where to go
My pig was actually butchered...
I worry so much for my family, because of things like this it’s important to inform your family to be aware of these scams, not all of my family even knows how to use social media. It makes me so angry that these scams exist I feel sorry for anyone who has ever been affected, imagine working hard your whole life for everything to be taken from you. And The fact they go for the vulnerable is disgusting.
I hear you! For me I am not too worried for my dad, he has such horrible hearing even with hearing aids plus a special phone it's impossible to get through him! The amount of time he hung up on me thinking I'm someone else and I had to wrong number, and back-to-back too! Hahahah, I don't think scammers would have the patience with him on the phone to get through any words.
The scope of this situation is mind-blowing. I'm at a loss for words.
IMO...i think this is the most important interview you've done Andrew. Lindsay, you're amazing and i love you. ❤️
Lindsey
A older lady I worked for got a call said he was her grandson and used the real grandsons name, He told her he was in a car crash and his nose was broken. Long story short he needed bail money and could they send it to his bank account. I told her to hang up and phone her grandson first she did and found out her real grandson was at home safe and sound .
How did she know when she called her grandson she wasn't just speaking to Chinese gangsters? They already fooled her once.
@@andrewfulton3435because she knows her grandson’s phone number and called him directly? Duh.
Treat your phone like your front door. You don’t answer the door to strangers, don’t respond to strangers on your phone.
Great idea!
I think scams work when they've caught a person off guard.
All of us have these moments every day!
Tonight I have watched BBC3
" Hunting the Catfish Gang " is exactly what you are talking about. Filming a victim going to Bangkok and filming the compounds. Showing people being interviewed. Also beaten. It really is bad and trafficking. Being sold from one place to another. All believing they are going to a normal job and can't get out. Def worth a watch
This is a shocking and disheartening subject, but I and my family and thousands of others will be wiser and safer because of this podcast. Lindsay is an intelligent crime-buster, a real Hero! Thank you, Andrew, great interview - wow.
Well, Scammer Payback channel are the real, "crime-busters" though! They've stopped more than LindsEy has!
Thanks for the info. I don’t think it’s a competition, though. Just saying, this young lady is doing amazing work.
@@rebeccahartong5700 Just saying that "it's relative", the good work you perceive of Lindsey, & you will find out by watching the channel I mentioned. So yes, you yourself make it sound like a competition now, when there is none! They have caught & stopped more scammers.
Okie doke, then.
@@thekeysman6760Scammer Payback are an amazing channel! I love the work they do. Also Trilogy Media are at war against scammers of al kinds. They even go to the scammer’s house and call the cops.
Thank you Lindsey for the incredibly difficult work you do in an impossible job. Thank you Andrew for bringing this to the forefront.
This is shocking...it seems that the horrific things in this messed up world continue to get more and more depraved. I thought I was unshockable, but this cruel reality and it's sheer numbers is next level! I cling to my faith in these times and pray for all those who are caught up in these terrors and living nightmares. I have lived through repeated shocking traumatic events, taken many many years of therapy and prayer support to live with and survive these things and losses and my heart goes out to all those affected by this barbaric treatment. Such a cruel world.
I thank God for the rare lights in the darkness and pray for protection for Lindsey and anyone else involved in providing help to those desperately seeking a way out. Praying too for our loved ones to be protected from the sophisticated hateful scams, that are becoming far too commonplace.
Thank you, Andrew for highlighting this and thank you Lindsey for your courage and tenacity, stay safe, love and prayers 🙏🙏🙏
Yeah...pretty scary for sure.
Why is God letting people suffer abs watching while people profit from human misery?
Thank you Andrew for an illuminating interview. It is heartbreaking to know this situation exists and because of human greed it is difficult to next to impossible to stop. Hopefully with this type of publicity people will stop responding to requests for money and their existence will no longer be profitable.
A very interesting and important interview. It’s heartbreaking hearing about what is happening. Lindsey is doing incredible work.
ANDREW : This was SUCH an eye opener and such a relevant issue. Thank You for bringing this out in the light!!
How does this young Beautiful Soul get to be so WISE on these important issues 'world-wide' ?!
This was SO educational for me because I am usually rude to scammers or simply talk forever to waist their time.
Yeah I send one message saying I know you’re a scammer, and block their number after.
It’s terrible how humans can act once they lose morals and dehumanise others
Thanks Andrew! Lindsey is lovely - doing wonderful work. Thank you for educating us
Absolutely eye opening . This should be shared far and wide . Thankyou for raising awareness.
What an education having never experienced it . Just horrifying this is happening in the world we live in. Some real sick individuals on the planet these days 😮
Great interview Andrew. Lindsay you are a hero! Keep up the good work (for as long as you can) and stay safe. What a horrific situation!
I just want to thank you for this. I've had SO many of these texts. Several times I've replied until the whole "I feel like we were destined to meet one another, you're so kind" crap started. Twice, I've messed around in replies, but didn't keep it up for long. Now I almost another one just so I can ask if they need help. This is horrifying.
Thanks for all the hard work on this matter, Lindsey, and as always...Love you Andrew!
This is so common! Not sure if people are aware of these damn scammers! It's so prevalent everywhere!
This is fascinating and an eye opener. Kudos to you for this excellent interview and interviewee and compelling story!!
This makes the Indian scam centres sound tame. I decided a long time ago to assume all calls, or emails etc are scams until proven otherwise. FB a marketplace is terrible for this now, I put a sofa on for sale and had four messages from four scammers using different methods of scam. Truly horrific how these people try to scam but I didn’t realise that some of those scammers are not doing so willingly. What a sad world we live in…
But the Indian call centres are often run at the top by Chinese gangs with internal US help! Same as mentioned here. Scammer Payback channel are the real thing...
WORKING ON THE AUDIO SYNC ISSUES. UA-cam'S SIDE....
Have you ever been scammed? And did you have any idea the scammers lived like this? Hit the like, share on social media, and let me know below.
I always thought I was never going to fall for these scams. Embarrassing to say the least. They used AI to copy my daughters voice. Pretty accurately. I was convinced. She was crying and gasped out the story about having been arrested, she was in an accident broke her nose but had hit a pregnant woman. They were taking her phone away and I would be contacted by an attorney and gave me a case number. He called. Assured me we would get her out but he needed cash to do so. Now as I look back this should have been my moment of clarity but my heart was motivating my actions. He wanted 20,000 dollars, impossible is what I said. He dropped down to 10,000 but I couldn’t do that either. He needed it ASAP. Decided on 4,000 and my race was on. Had to borrow from money put away and he had said he knew I was upset but the news had changed and the pregnant woman had lost her baby. They had a courier to pick up money and once the courier who actually was a courier and checked out. Bottom line no longer was I able to contact this attorney. Had no idea what jail my daughter was in and proceeded to contact several police departments to find my daughters arresting department and what jail she was in. Finally got a local P D who said I was probably being scammed. Called my daughters landline and she was at home all that time. Made a report but fruitless. I would still swear it was my daughters voice. I felt gullible, I felt stupid but got over that and share my story whenever I can. I am now so angry that these people spend their time hurting and ripping people off. using such brutal tactics. We need have a safe word
@AndrewGold1 Maybe you should pin this comment?
Andrew … is there any way you can make a 2 min short video on the subject to spike people’s interest en hearing this interview? This is valuable information that needs to be made viral … and let’s face it , people are too lazy to listen to a 60 min interview right off the bat 😬
Thank you for your work and spreading awareness ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Weird audio sync issues. But fascinating vid! Horrible to know what some people in the world are capable of.
Yeah, Andrew said he edited it after it was posted, to get rid of some YT trigger words! And so I guess he won't try that again! 😂
I got a txt from a random number the other day saying "hi mum I've broken my phone can you ring me on this number " my kid died 2 years ago so that didn't work for them
That’s so sad I’m so sorry for you loss❤, these people are disgusting and have no morals.
Oh gosh - I'm so sorry to hear that. I had the same text some months ago. I rang my son to check & did not engage with the number that was presented
I'm so sorry for your loss. 😢 I'm a grieving mum and wow! Extra heartbreaking 😢 Sending hugs 🫂
Omg 😢I’m so sorry
Andrew thank you for the important content. I was unaware of this dangerous situation and I might have been tented to take a job in one those countries. It’s life saving information ❤
Love your show. You, Andrew, are a quality human being.
This topic is completely fascinating. Glad you’ve looked into this. Hope you do again.
This is absolutely horrific and the journalist exposing it on here is so brave. This is something that governments and security services should be fighting, but it's become clear that so many MP's and police etc are getting backhanders or using the sex workers and are comprised.
MPs plural, no apostrophe saying "MP is" or implying belonging to the MP, as you have. 👍
This actually makes me feel guilty because I have messed with scammers in the past and wasted their time and taunted them. It never occurred to me that they might be being forced against their will to do it. Like what if I actually caused someone to get beaten or tortured because i wasted their time and they didn't make their quota for the day because of me?
You are a good person ❤
An amazing story and the realities of scamming, truly shocking and unbelieveable. Thanks Andrew & Lindsey!
Thank you for courageously bringing this into the news.
What an Interview 😮 Thank You.
I called my banks "customer service",I asked where are you located? The reply,The Philippines! I immediately removed all my money.
One that EVERYONE needs to hear.
Excellent video topic, thank you Andrew! This kind of information needs to be widely broadcast to as many people as possible, it’s a public service at this point. ❤ I’m so happy you’re covering this subject.
I get those fake texts all the time, people pretending to be looking for their friend’s number or what not. I always respond ‘go away scammer’ they don’t bother me after that. Also people pretending to be USPS and saying you have a package that can’t be delivered, etc. I always scream SCAMMER at them and block their number. I’m getting way less of them now, hopefully I was put on some kind of ‘don’t bother with her’ list 😂😂
Who ever said Evil Doesn't Exist, should see this podcast. Thanks so much to you both. Subscribed and liked. James J Walsh in Limerick city Ireland 🇮🇪
Wow. Brilliant pertinent interveiw. Authentic modest and factual. Heartfelt and considerate. Ms. Kennedy is an asset to her profession, as are you.
Subscribed
I've had calls, emails and messages from strangers. I just don't respond and block. I certainly wouldn't pay for any product or financial investment. I'm not open to crypto purchasing.
I know of somebody who lost £25k to a scam. When I asked why she didn't speak to a relative first, she said she thought the woman was genuine. Scary.
Beware scammers reply to your comment offering to help you
My son was in Afghanistan and and a scammer called my mother in law ( his grandma) and said he was in jail and needed bail money. Fortunately we had made her aware of the scams and she hung up.
I NEVER pick up if I don't recognise the number.
A REAL JOURNALIST!
I didn’t know they still existed! Why not stay home & surf the web like the other investigative journalists? 😊
Omg didn't realise the stories behind these scammers. Still wrong to steal anybodys hard earned cash. We all need to be vigilante so as we don't fall victim to them. They need to be stopped.
The governments in those third world countries do nothing to stop them. They get kickbacks from the scammer bosses. It’s up to us to protect ourselves and not send money to anyone. Then they’ll go away when there’s no one left to give them money.
Way to miss the point
People should not put pictures of their children out for the public to see.
The depth of the scam world is horrific.
Next time I get one of these scams... I will ask if they need help 👏👏🙏👍
With you here. I'm always careful on line but I have had 31 plus texts from a neighbour. She says she didn't send them. I'm worldly wise and I don't believe a word from her.
A very brave lady. She will find it increasingly difficult to walk away, so it’s important she recognises when she has to pass the baton to someone else. For a while at least. Thank you Andrew, for bringing this to our attention.
Those well off ppl you know Andrew , earned their money . It’s like you said , Still unfortunate and wrong that happened.
I had a couple of contacts from ppl impersonating someone I know. I asked them one question that only the person would know. Of course it was a huge fail for them. I already knew they were a scam, I just wanted to play with them.
I traveled solo all over, Central America, Mexico, East Europe, Thailand, ex-soviet states . . . single woman, met good, kind, helpful people everywhere.
Thank you for reminding us that there are good people out there as well, but that in no way invalidates what happened to these poor people. Be grateful for your good fortune, and regretful that there is no guarantee that your experience will be positive next time.
Andrew, I could’ve fallen to a scam, but I didn’t because I can be mean without guilt. I knew it was a scam because I know my bank does not call, but sends messages. This guy was very persuasive, and played a guilty trip on me telling that was a being bad mannered to him when he was trying to help me. The truth is that he gave up before the whole script went on because he realized I was tough, and hung up. I just cannot be nice enough. 😅 But for nice people out there, I am sure the scam would work beautifully. They play very sophisticate mind games. Be mean people!
thank you both so much for bringing this story to light. I had. no idea such places exist. greed and crime is poisoning humanity.
Humans seem to be getting worse in so many ways.
Yay ! Managed to catch this ❤
I got those few of goddamn calls, I sent back, “ bog off you bastards ,I’m reporting this to police “ the calls stopped ! 👏👏👏🍀
this is unthinkable!
I got a few friend requests. I accepted because of UA-cam Mod work, So many new peeps add me. Then I get a text from one. I notice they can't keep up with my waffling qestions. They stop texting lol 😆I respond saying Ha ! Got ya Scammer. ✊This is horrifying isn't it. What a lovely soul she has 👏👏👏💗
I will never look at scammers the same way again. I’ve had several text messages to the wrong person that they tried to start up a conversation with me. Its disturbing knowing they could have been in a situation like this. Thank you for this information.
Guard your privacy.
Are there organisations available that can help?
Yes. Scammer Payback channel.
Very important this inter view 😢😮 keep at in Andrew…..thank you,
Hi. Great topic. What an eye opener. ❤
I’m saddened by how few comments address the enslaved labor. That’s an atrocity - at least an American/Western target has a shot of recognizing that a scammer is trying to play them but people basically enslaved to work 16-hour days at this?
Americans need to think more globally - and broadly in general ffs; we can’t even begin to address and tackle problems without that change in mentality. I’m truly tired of this aspect of the United States.
Thank you!
Thankyou for this
Nothing else but evil. This is anybody's worst nightmare.
this is sooooo horrible i cant believe it!
Praise you Lindsay for doing this incredibly dangerous and important work ☮️💜🙏
Thank you for this! I have gotten the texts that sound like a wrong number and thought it sounded weird, but not sure the actual goal. I'm glad to know to just ignore or block the number when my first instinct is to respond like a troll.
I'm so suspicious now, that when a well known company sent me an email yesterday offering me £100 discount on a vacuum cleaner, I thought it was a scam so rang their company and just started to tell them the content of the email and the lady laughed and said no, it's not a scam, we couldn't provide you with a spare part so it's a goodwill offer. It's very unusual for companies now days to make these sort of offers. Sad isn't it that we trust no one now.
trust no one now! Sad, yes. 😉
I would laugh as well.
Surely it’s very easy to check
@@yagushka If you know how to check all current scams I'm sure we'd all. love to hear from you.
Thank You for this. Such an important subject. That woman is a hero.
Brave lady
26:29 omg they have a “form” reply for complaints of kidnapping. All the nonchalance of “we are sorry your meal did not meet with out regular high standards…”
This was a very, very useful video.
Very interesting pod. Scary also. If all these horrible people used their genius ideas to do good - imagine how wonderful the world would be. 🔹
Audio is good but out of sync,it's.all good as long as we can hear it,thanks andrew
fixing it! thanks :)
That's the trouble with the Internet & social media, it's like the real world & full of the same people, the harmful & the harmless, the good, the bad & the ugly-minded ...c'est la vie
I have gotten this, and I never respond. I just blocked the caller. Everyone should know by now that you don't do this.
Time for tourism operators to boycott these countries where it is known the government is complicit or indifferent.
Fab conversation ❤
Our family has used a safe word for 30 years. If a relative or friend was to pick up our children unexpectedly, a safe word was required before the children would go with that person. As for money, we took the recommendation of our financial advisor and use VPN as well as email that is not part of the social media interwebs. Best of all, don't be in denial that cons can happen to anyone.
the grim reality is when you're kidnapped your life expectancy goes down significantly if you're moved to a second location., which is whats happening with these job scams. kidnapping is kidnapping no matter how its masked or how much is paid for a flight.
This happened to us.
They called my mom pretending to be police claiming I had hit and killed someone while driving and was injured and in custody. They had a voice clip of me yelling to my mom to help me. I literally walked in the door as she was on the phone with them-she fainted when she saw me. I took the phone and asked who it was- they repeated their whole scam. I took any info they provided for making a payment to authorities . 2 days later -same scam got $10000 from our neighbor.
Now u got 2 scammer replies offering to help you lol
The isle of man is further north, more like between lower Scotland and Ireland
My situation is different. I can't believe the havoc my neighbour has inflicted on our lovely wee community
Beware scammers reply to your comment offering to help you
This is horrible, I’m dealing with a scammer at the moment and wondering if this person is in the same situation
So much corruption ! Like rabbit warrens of corrupt people ( sometimes leading to figureheads). Where do you start, where do you finish? The answer, I think , is never!
Wow, what an eye opener.
When I was listening to this podcast, my mind chose its own direction and I understand now, I have to refine #TyPeSCaPe or the 5 levels of the PROCES again
TyPeSCaPe -> TPS + SCP
TPS = Trends - Patterns - Structures
SCP = Systems - *Concepts* - Processes (also plural, but with a longer stainability)
In other words, it's work in progress for everyone of us ...
What happens when someone calls your house asking for you kid? Luckily in Ontario (Canada) sometimes the number comes up "Likely Spam" but some woman called asking for a kid in the house. Whats up with that?
My husband and i have passwords that we would use in an emergency to each other, either on the phone or by text, so we know that the situation is serious or that it confirms that we're really talking to each other.
Thanks for spreading the awareness about this subject, we need to make our older family members of all the different ways scamming happens.
🙏🙏 God bless you family