I watched this video a year ago for my first time when I was trying to understand whipping/scrubbing and other fundamental driving techniques. Just wanna say that your video helped me excel in my driving,a year later I use these techniques regularly.
Hey man, I just started this hobby for 2 month and didn't know these techniques even excisted. Thanks for sharing these. I see yhere still so much to learn.
The Cactus will continue next year at a different location and hopefully outside. Great video I searched for this and couldn't find a thing on it a few weeks ago. I tested this last week and figured it out last week. It's essential for lap times to pivot the car into a corner. I still have a lot of training to do! Also I didn't know about the braking at the jump face it makes sense.
Hey man, thanks for that explanation! Whilst im only new and generally just happy to get round the track, i was trying for the life of me to understand what these guys were doing!
Hey Jason, OCRC is my home tracks and it's just amazing watching many of the pros run laps there. I once saw the crew from Kyosho intentionally whipping an RB6 and trying to get it almost completely sideways before landing. As for scrubbing, I never knew the technical name for it, but in dual slalom in mountain biking, you'll see riders always trying to get that "wing high" look to the bikes trying to get the rear wheel down ASAP to get more traction/speed. As for RC, I always like to run a bit nose heavy on my rigs to get the front wheels grabbing the track. Great explain!
Fantastic vid. i've watched it numerous tunes, and I would LOOOVE to see a few more like this on more technique. I'm fairly new to RC offroad and I've noticed there is a great deal of info on products and setups, but not much on driving techniques. Please co sider doing some vids on driving. Anything like how to take a corner tighter, pass, start, hitting a pipe or whatever. Thanks
Hey Jason - great vid. I was able to pick up on a few of these things at the last race - pretty cool! That being said, I'm not nearly skilled enough to even try some of these things yet. A version of this video with beginner focused tips would be really cool. Maybe call out a few common mistakes that beginner and intermediate racers make and how they could improve.
Great video.. makes a lot of sense and i appreciate those drivers. I tried whipping and i probably have a 3-5% consistency but man does it set you up for the next turn if you get it right. I go about 1 day a week and really just getting around clean is where i'll spend most of my driving time until i can up the track times for practice.. nice video.
Super helpful! Just got my start in nitro 1/8 buggy a couple months back when I picked up a Losi 8 3.0 B kit. I bashed years ago, but this is my first serious attempt at R/C racing. I've learned so much in the short time since. Guys at the track, my LHS, and youtubers such as yourself. This is really, really fun! Still a complete noob, and racing beginner class, but having a blast, friend. Going to try this technique after I'm a little more consistent over the doubles and trips, but wow, what a science behind all this! I'm definitely subscribing. Thank you!
New to the game and I want to tell you that this channel has been very helpful....keep doing what cha doing and stay true to the sport not to the Manufactures... Thanks Whitney
Tried a whip with my mp9e a few times and had some awful landings . Too scared to break something. Pros just make it look so easy. Thanks for sharing this info.
Jason, I am loving your videos. I am totally going to go to Rainman's Raceway and I am going to practice scrubbing. I will tackle whipping later. One thing at a time. Very informative.
I figured out the whip into turn on accident lol. In mid flight I instinctively corrected an inevitable control arm shattering heavy left front nose down landing, it landed smooth and pointing perfectly into the straight and hammered the trigger to pass two buggies before the next turn. Now I didn't think I could recreate those instinctive controls to whip on purpose so I just kept repeating the heavy nose down to the left and instinctively recovered to get the whip right before landing. That is my favorite corner on the track now.
Thanks dude! This video is awesome! I always wanted to know how Jörn Neumann did that with his car :) I first saw it at german nationals and i was just impressed :)
Thanks a ton for the info, very nicely explained - short and full of useful information! Now charging 3 packs and off to the BMX track to put theory into pratice.
i tried it an its just to costly on my mp9tki3 so ill just stick with my point an squeeze trigger method cause i finish races this however information is always good thanks for sharing an helping out the rc community
Yo man, you throw out some fun terms like "angular momentum" here and in another video refer to the "MSDS" talking about tire sauce. I love it ahaha, the smirk acknowledging your brief "nerd-out" as I call it is great.
I never managed to get whipping down, but I did get pretty good with scrubbing with my 1/8th scale nitro buggy. I've found it's actually easier to practice on bigger jumps first before trying it with the smaller ones, since the more time you spend in the air the more time you have to get used to controlling the car in the air.
Thanks for the tips!! More would be great especially on tire choices for more than just clay surfaces. I think it's safe to say most of us don't get chances to drive on groomed tracks. Thanks again.
Great video! I have been trying to learn some of these techniques, and it is alot of abuse on my mbx7r eco! I also see guys steering there car in the air left, right, left, right and Im not sure what they are doing, but I tryed it and my buggy turned over and backwards and landed hard! I have been trying wot, leading up to a jump, and then let off gas at the right point, and you get the same effect as using the breaks, without the risk of hitting break too hard and front fliping!
Just got a B5M with 2 TrackPower 4600 Mah 80c batteries, a trinity 4 pole motor, and a novak esc, airtronicks servo, and 2 brand new sets off proline tires, a few aluminum hopups for $120. Of course it is used, but one hell of a deal!
I think it's time for a follow-up video on driving techniques. I'd love to b hear about approaching corners, navigating tight "S" sections and pacing. I hear good drivers talk about pace and I'd love to have a better understanding beyond being consistent.
Pace is simple to describe but hard to actually explain in detail. But suffice to say the faster the pace, the faster you're going around the track and the harder you're driving the car while still trying to stay smooth. For corners, you want to approach from the outside, dive in tight, and then exit on the outside. This is called "apexing", since you're pulling in tight at the apex of the corner before going wide again. It lets you carry more speed around the turn by essentially widening the corner. You can also apex early or late depending on the racing line and surrounding traffic. There's tons of guides on racing lines and apexing online so I won't go into too much detail. Of course, the way you take a corner can also depend on the car you're driving and the surface you're on - with a 4WD car a tight hairpin on a loose surface might be faster to take by literally spinning the car in a controlled manner on entry and powering out (this is referred to as a "reverse corner entry" in rally) rather than slowing down and apexing the turn, but doing this with a 2WD car would be slower because you can't put power to the ground as well.
I come from motocross and whipping and scrubing the car came natural for me, I remember showing a moto friend a jump without a whip and then I did it with (both directions) and he was a amazed at how it looked just like a moto bike whipping
Are these kind of driving techniques like whipping used mainly over larger jumps which have corners quite close to the landing spots of the jumps? And also would you mainly scrub over smaller types of jumps? cheers great vids tho man :)
Hey Jason Dan here ;) I am close to watching nearly all your videos and love them all and find them super informative. But, have you ever searched for 2wd driving tips? It comes up with one video in the whole history of you tube and even then its more of a setup video from an untrusted source. Any chance you can add '2WD Setup and Driving tips' to your future videos as it is the most popular class and the hardest to drive. Regards Dan
Hi, for a beginner, do you have any advice about learning to jump successfully, the progression? The full size jumps are too much I tried it once my buggy broke a lot of parts due to landing improperly.
@@pistonpoweruk i guess i thought thats what they were for, to absorb the impact as a real car or truck or buggy would? my buggy is just hitting a little more than i think it should be.
I started RC 2 months ago, I started doing this, since I see the pros do it in ocrc... didn't know it's called the scrub, its hit the brakes then hit the throttle or you will flip, but it gives you also more control when you land. Even in small jumps, you have to do this... I saw mine drop from 28 - 25 sec lap
I also found that a whip works great when you don't have enough speed to make a double..turning to the right/left for example..the car will dip down and bring the ass up and over the face of the second jump, rather than it casing it. I use that when I have to slow down and know I'm not going to have the speed to just soar over a regular double that doesn't really have a turn after it.
Hey man you did a good job explaining the scrub. You have one thing wrong though bud. You do not use the front brake while scrubbing a motocross bike. FYI
Thanks for the heads up Brad.....I know a few friends of mine that use the front brake on certain jumps....thats why i mentioned it. Thanks for watching :)
Loved the info former indoor driver from late nineties. Getting up to speed this time the. Calling is the ol fanboys favorite dirt. Will be running my sentimental first love equipment. Team associated. Starting with 4x4 sc 10s. Yup total mad scientist. Lol
I'm over here just happy to get around the track
Or make the jumps :(
this i think is literally the name of the game at alllll skill levels
I can barely do that hahah
I watched this video a year ago for my first time when I was trying to understand whipping/scrubbing and other fundamental driving techniques. Just wanna say that your video helped me excel in my driving,a year later I use these techniques regularly.
Hey man, I just started this hobby for 2 month and didn't know these techniques even excisted. Thanks for sharing these. I see yhere still so much to learn.
Keep up the great work ace vids
I race motocross and I can't stop laughing at this. You're not wrong it's just funny to hear an RC car guy describe it.
I raced motocross too an he was a bit off on the front brake part. The last thing you want to do on a jump face is hit the front brakes :)
Great video, thanks!
Great video! Easy to understand! And the foam plane was sooooo impressive!
Wow, I've spent so much time trying to figure this out to no avail... Thanks man! Looking forward to another installment!
Best RC videos on UA-cam hands down! Keep up the good work.
Awesome tutorials man. Can't wait to test out these techniques at the track!
so cool. great video
....Mind blown. Everything was explained flawlessly Imho. And now I need to fix my mini 8ight. Lol
Glad I could help Nick! :)
The Cactus will continue next year at a different location and hopefully outside. Great video I searched for this and couldn't find a thing on it a few weeks ago. I tested this last week and figured it out last week. It's essential for lap times to pivot the car into a corner. I still have a lot of training to do! Also I didn't know about the braking at the jump face it makes sense.
“And im cool with that”
And i like this guy
Thanks for the tip bro... definitely gonna try the scrub technique at the track next weekend.
Hey man, thanks for that explanation! Whilst im only new and generally just happy to get round the track, i was trying for the life of me to understand what these guys were doing!
Solid ass comparison with the wing in the air compared to the plane. Won't be forgetting about that
can you please give us some more driving tips? advanced or semi basic or anything in between. we want more inside driving tips!
I agree!! I'm about to start racing and would love to see more driving tips from someone like Jason that has a decent amount of knowledge!
@aaron collier. shhhh!
Oh wow scrubbing can be done with the wing and body. That's a revelation to me. I'll start practicing, now.
Great video. I want see kore about driving techniques.
Hey Jason, OCRC is my home tracks and it's just amazing watching many of the pros run laps there. I once saw the crew from Kyosho intentionally whipping an RB6 and trying to get it almost completely sideways before landing. As for scrubbing, I never knew the technical name for it, but in dual slalom in mountain biking, you'll see riders always trying to get that "wing high" look to the bikes trying to get the rear wheel down ASAP to get more traction/speed. As for RC, I always like to run a bit nose heavy on my rigs to get the front wheels grabbing the track. Great explain!
Thanks Rich,
Just trying to share what i've learned !
Fantastic vid. i've watched it numerous tunes, and I would LOOOVE to see a few more like this on more technique. I'm fairly new to RC offroad and I've noticed there is a great deal of info on products and setups, but not much on driving techniques. Please co sider doing some vids on driving. Anything like how to take a corner tighter, pass, start, hitting a pipe or whatever. Thanks
Hey Jason - great vid. I was able to pick up on a few of these things at the last race - pretty cool! That being said, I'm not nearly skilled enough to even try some of these things yet. A version of this video with beginner focused tips would be really cool. Maybe call out a few common mistakes that beginner and intermediate racers make and how they could improve.
great vid ive also seen some of the pros go way nose down to create drag so they dont overshoot a jump
Great video.. makes a lot of sense and i appreciate those drivers.
I tried whipping and i probably have a 3-5% consistency but man does it set you up for the next turn if you get it right. I go about 1 day a week and really just getting around clean is where i'll spend most of my driving time until i can up the track times for practice..
nice video.
Super helpful! Just got my start in nitro 1/8 buggy a couple months back when I picked up a Losi 8 3.0 B kit. I bashed years ago, but this is my first serious attempt at R/C racing. I've learned so much in the short time since. Guys at the track, my LHS, and youtubers such as yourself. This is really, really fun! Still a complete noob, and racing beginner class, but having a blast, friend. Going to try this technique after I'm a little more consistent over the doubles and trips, but wow, what a science behind all this! I'm definitely subscribing. Thank you!
New to the game and I want to tell you that this channel has been very helpful....keep doing what cha doing and stay true to the sport not to the Manufactures...
Thanks
Whitney
great vids and very informative keep up the good work. thanks
sweet information man awesome loved it lined it. but hey could you maybe do a racing demo with an E-maxx would love to see it
Nice Topic & Very Resourceful. Cant wait to get to that level of driving.......
Tried a whip with my mp9e a few times and had some awful landings . Too scared to break something. Pros just make it look so easy. Thanks for sharing this info.
This is awesome!!! Please more advanced driving tips!!!
Jason, I am loving your videos. I am totally going to go to Rainman's Raceway and I am going to practice scrubbing. I will tackle whipping later. One thing at a time. Very informative.
Always love you videos Jason... miss having you here at LH... been wanting to see a really good breakdown of a whip.
I figured out the whip into turn on accident lol. In mid flight I instinctively corrected an inevitable control arm shattering heavy left front nose down landing, it landed smooth and pointing perfectly into the straight and hammered the trigger to pass two buggies before the next turn. Now I didn't think I could recreate those instinctive controls to whip on purpose so I just kept repeating the heavy nose down to the left and instinctively recovered to get the whip right before landing. That is my favorite corner on the track now.
Haha same for me. One day I just did it instinctively, and from there I experimented to actually find out how to consciously do it
This was a really good and helpful video. Tha k you for making it.
People think im imature playing with toy cars at 44yrs. I cant wait to try those techniques!🤣 Awsome videos!
These videos are amazing
Thanks dude! This video is awesome!
I always wanted to know how Jörn Neumann did that with his car :)
I first saw it at german nationals and i was just impressed :)
Great tip on pivoting in air!
You are literally the best! Love your videos!
Ur awesome
Am motocross rider and i smiled when u said bubbaaa
Said this guy knows exactly what he is talking about
Love your vids man. I can tell you have a true passion for RC.
These are the best tips in the WORLD. thank you Thank You THANK YOU , LIke Button
Thanks for doing these videos very good and helpful
hey man I am a old sub but been out of the hobby for a while and just getting back and loving all your new videos keep it up!
thanks for watching!
Dont mention it man!
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Thanks a ton for the info, very nicely explained - short and full of useful information!
Now charging 3 packs and off to the BMX track to put theory into pratice.
Your videos are awesome! thanks!
i tried it an its just to costly on my mp9tki3 so ill just stick with my point an squeeze trigger method cause i finish races this however information is always good thanks for sharing an helping out the rc community
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Really great video!
As far as i love your tips it would be priceless to see this wideo remade with some track videos analysed frame by frame :D
Yo man, you throw out some fun terms like "angular momentum" here and in another video refer to the "MSDS" talking about tire sauce. I love it ahaha, the smirk acknowledging your brief "nerd-out" as I call it is great.
Well done video, thanks for sharing.
I never managed to get whipping down, but I did get pretty good with scrubbing with my 1/8th scale nitro buggy. I've found it's actually easier to practice on bigger jumps first before trying it with the smaller ones, since the more time you spend in the air the more time you have to get used to controlling the car in the air.
Thanks for the tips!! More would be great especially on tire choices for more than just clay surfaces. I think it's safe to say most of us don't get chances to drive on groomed tracks. Thanks again.
Gonna try this at my next 8th scale buggy race. Thanks!
Excellent information !!! Thank you very much !!!
Thanks for watching :)
Nice explaning
Great video Bro. I can't wait to try this and look forward to a lot of broken A arms....lol
Great video! I have been trying to learn some of these techniques, and it is alot of abuse on my mbx7r eco! I also see guys steering there car in the air left, right, left, right and Im not sure what they are doing, but I tryed it and my buggy turned over and backwards and landed hard! I have been trying wot, leading up to a jump, and then let off gas at the right point, and you get the same effect as using the breaks, without the risk of hitting break too hard and front fliping!
Jason to "scrub speed" you go off the jump full bore/throttle and let off the throttle as soon as the car is air borne?
Hi Jason, is that the Serpent SRX2 MM? Will you be doing a review on it? Thanks
you videos help out i like watching
This video was published on July 7, 2014.
On July 8, 2014, hobby shops all across the nation saw a surge in orders for replacement parts.
Nice video!
Very useful because im getting a HSP XSTR Pro
Just got a B5M with 2 TrackPower 4600 Mah 80c batteries, a trinity 4 pole motor, and a novak esc, airtronicks servo, and 2 brand new sets off proline tires, a few aluminum hopups for $120. Of course it is used, but one hell of a deal!
Justin Green where did u get it
Thanks man love this stuff
I think it's time for a follow-up video on driving techniques. I'd love to b hear about approaching corners, navigating tight "S" sections and pacing. I hear good drivers talk about pace and I'd love to have a better understanding beyond being consistent.
Pace is simple to describe but hard to actually explain in detail. But suffice to say the faster the pace, the faster you're going around the track and the harder you're driving the car while still trying to stay smooth.
For corners, you want to approach from the outside, dive in tight, and then exit on the outside. This is called "apexing", since you're pulling in tight at the apex of the corner before going wide again. It lets you carry more speed around the turn by essentially widening the corner. You can also apex early or late depending on the racing line and surrounding traffic. There's tons of guides on racing lines and apexing online so I won't go into too much detail. Of course, the way you take a corner can also depend on the car you're driving and the surface you're on - with a 4WD car a tight hairpin on a loose surface might be faster to take by literally spinning the car in a controlled manner on entry and powering out (this is referred to as a "reverse corner entry" in rally) rather than slowing down and apexing the turn, but doing this with a 2WD car would be slower because you can't put power to the ground as well.
Could you do a video on the 50/50 and the 70/30 throttle setting,
What most commonly used and why.
Thanks
When I get the b44.2 or the b44.3 still deciding I'll try these technics
Thanks for the info very helpful also I subscribed and liked
I come from motocross and whipping and scrubing the car came natural for me, I remember showing a moto friend a jump without a whip and then I did it with (both directions) and he was a amazed at how it looked just like a moto bike whipping
Are these kind of driving techniques like whipping used mainly over larger jumps which have corners quite close to the landing spots of the jumps? And also would you mainly scrub over smaller types of jumps?
cheers great vids tho man :)
Great Stuff! Thanks so much for sharing!
anytime
Would using drag brake also work for scrubbing? Are you braking before the front tires hit the any part of the jump whatsoever?
it sounds like they're hitting the brake before the front tires leave the jump as close to the top of the jump as possible.
Hey Jason Dan here ;)
I am close to watching nearly all your videos and love them all and find them super informative.
But, have you ever searched for 2wd driving tips?
It comes up with one video in the whole history of you tube and even then its more of a setup video from an untrusted source.
Any chance you can add '2WD Setup and Driving tips' to your future videos as it is the most popular class and the hardest to drive.
Regards
Dan
Is that a serpent spyder srx-2 buggy?
Hi, for a beginner, do you have any advice about learning to jump successfully, the progression? The full size jumps are too much I tried it once my buggy broke a lot of parts due to landing improperly.
Thanks for the lesson 👍
Thank you so much this was an awesome video
boom! well said! love your work.
Any chance you can do a similar vid for SCT?
same rules apply :)
so what is the best way to try and eliminate chassis slap when landing a decent jump that may not have a downslope landing? any help would be awesome!
mike man why would you want to? If the chassis doesn’t slap, then the stress is passed to shocks and arms etc.
@@pistonpoweruk i guess i thought thats what they were for, to absorb the impact as a real car or truck or buggy would? my buggy is just hitting a little more than i think it should be.
mike man that’s how shocks bend shafts and shock towers break. If it’s slapping too hard, up your oil weight or spring rate.
@@pistonpoweruk will give the oil weight a try
Thank you for great information!
I started RC 2 months ago, I started doing this, since I see the pros do it in ocrc... didn't know it's called the scrub, its hit the brakes then hit the throttle or you will flip, but it gives you also more control when you land.
Even in small jumps, you have to do this... I saw mine drop from 28 - 25 sec lap
Very nice video.
Loved your vid man keep it up!!!
wow, this video was super helpful, thanks a lot
Cool video!
Thanks! This was very informative!
I know the style , nice to know the term , I felt lost for a while , kept wondering what a scrub is , usually means a newb lol
Wow this was really helpful.
is this possible to do with shourt course trucks
It works on any RC, it's just easier to rotate with 4x4 trucks or buggy
+That Guy With the Pointlessly Long Username That You Are Wasting Your Time Reading Right Now LMFAO AT YOUR NAME!!!
I also found that a whip works great when you don't have enough speed to make a double..turning to the right/left for example..the car will dip down and bring the ass up and over the face of the second jump, rather than it casing it. I use that when I have to slow down and know I'm not going to have the speed to just soar over a regular double that doesn't really have a turn after it.
What car is that please tell it looks pretty cool
+Kaleb Moore looks like b5 from team associated
+ethan young but it's mid motor
+Kaleb Moore b5m
+Kaleb Moore the one that comes with it
it's a b5m lite with a predator or phantom body look up b5m review and his review should come up
What speed controller to get in 2024?
Ty for the video, i subbed
Hey man you did a good job explaining the scrub. You have one thing wrong though bud. You do not use the front brake while scrubbing a motocross bike. FYI
Thanks for the heads up Brad.....I know a few friends of mine that use the front brake on certain jumps....thats why i mentioned it. Thanks for watching :)
man i love this! music to my ears! thanks buddy!
great info
Loved the info former indoor driver from late nineties. Getting up to speed this time the. Calling is the ol fanboys favorite dirt. Will be running my sentimental first love equipment. Team associated. Starting with 4x4 sc 10s. Yup total mad scientist. Lol