Excellent sir , I can here ya good your presentation was 👍 Great. I have fished that spung rubber spider since I was 10 , in a couple a weeks I will turn 70 cripe . I enjoyed your vid vary much. Thank you sir. 😊
John, thank you for the compliment. The rubber spider is one of the first flies I ever tied on (way back when for me too!) when I started fly fishing. A definite staple. I am glad you like the video. - Ian Anderson
Nice looking spider I`m glad you showed a couple ways to tie this . I like the second way better since I`m new to this hobby only been doing this for about 6 months . Thanks for a great video
Sir, I just found your channel, very nice instructions and video work. I tie this same rubber spider using barred grizzly sili legs. Some on the water experimentation revealed to me that my Michigan panfish show a distinct preference to that color pattern of legs. Every body of water that I have used them on, I have experienced very good results. Just a suggestion I thought I would share.
Craig, thank you for the nice compliment and suggestion. I have tied them as well with barred legs and they are very productive. I have not done any experimenting with this pattern concerning which type of legs might work better but it sounds like it would be a fun time finding out. Spring is on it's way. - Ian Anderson
@@DressedIrons I tied the spider in a black body with white "blood splatter" legs. The gills would not commit to eating it. I switched back to the grizzly barred legs and they would completely engulf the fly. The only hypothesis I was able to develop for this behavior was related to the presence of adult dragonflies with dark bodies and wings containing large white stripes. Just my 2 cents worth.
@@liljohnwhitetiger Craig, interesting. I also wonder if the barred legs have more contrast? From the fishes point of view. Glad you found something that works. Thanks for sharing. - Ian Anderson
Hey great vid easy fly to make, I do have a question. When your applying the head cement/glue/varnish, what tool are you using, it looks like a metal tube syringe. 🤷♂️ I find the brush that most cements and varnishes come with are too cumbersome and apply too much product on the fly...? So what do you use in the video..🤷♂️ Cheers
Barry, you are correct, the brushes are too big and often apply too much cement. I switched to a cement applicator (amzn.to/3vfD0QU [full disclosure, this is an affiliate link]) many years ago and love it. Your assumption is correct, it has a small tube (looks like a syringe) that helps to apply the cement just where you want it and just the right amount. There is only one caveat with this applicator, most of your head cements need to be thinned down in order to work. Many head cements are too thick to begin with and after you open the bottle they slowly get thicker as it evaporates (the lids never go back on with a 100% seal). You usually want to thin the head cement down by 50%. I started using a product called Fly-Tite (www.feather-craft.com/fly-tite-fly-tying-cement [this is not an affiliate link]) about 13 years ago because it starts out very thin in the bottle. It is also Alcohol based and can be thinned with Denatured Alcohol very easily. From time to time you may have to thin it down again and the bottle might get gummed up on the inside but it can be cleaner very easily. Plus, Fly-Tite soaks down into the thread and hardens rather then just crusting on the outside like many head cements. Thanks for the question. - Ian Anderson
Funny you should ask.... They are actually old white rubber legs (size medium, from Wapsi). The die lots change over time and I have noticed that some rubber legs are "whiter" than others over the years. Plus, the colors will fade, especially if exposed to sun light. Wapsi does not offer a Cream color in the medium size but they do in the XX-Small size. They also offer a cream colored Spanflex, which works great with the Rubber Spider. You can also use everyday rubber bands, that is how they started out. Shop you office supply store and see if you can find some thin rubber bands that are the color you are looking for. - Ian Anderson
The thread is applied and managed with a Fly Tying Bobbin (amzn.to/3cURfqI). There are many types on the market, the one I have linked to is a very common and basic type. There are other videos on the internet on how to load the bobbin (ua-cam.com/video/WNHR9HD9g_g/v-deo.html) if you need to learn how to set it up. - Ian Anderson
Glad you like the video. The foam body is created that way. They are sold by Wapsi and many fly shops have them. Wapsi also makes a Foam Spider Kit with everything you need to make about a dozen or so spiders (www.feather-craft.com/foam-spider-kit). That said, you can cut your own bodies they just won't be the rounded vertical shape. There are cutters on the market as well for cutting spider bodies (www.feather-craft.com/item/tb127/spider-foam-body-cutter/1.html). Hope this helps. - Ian Anderson
Stan Yamamura was a professional fly tier in Idaho Falls. I asked him how many flies he could tie in an hour. He replied 5 or 6 . Well I could tie that many, then he said dozen!🥴
Walks ant bodies do not look like what you have in this presentation. Have you modified the ant bodies first? If so, you should show how you ended up with a this presentation's body shape.
You are correct. Many years ago.... (in a Galaxy Far Far Away...) Wapsi called these little foam bodies "Spider" bodies. At some point they changed them to the "beetle" body (last I saw in the 2019 catalog). Now they have this foam labeled as an "ant" body. However, if you look on they website for "foam bodies" they have it labeled as a "spider" (wapsifly.com/products/foam/foam-bug-bodies/). To answer your question, No, I did not modify the foam body. - Ian Anderson
Excellent sir , I can here ya good your presentation was 👍 Great. I have fished that spung rubber spider since I was 10 , in a couple a weeks I will turn 70 cripe . I enjoyed your vid vary much. Thank you sir. 😊
John, thank you for the compliment. The rubber spider is one of the first flies I ever tied on (way back when for me too!) when I started fly fishing. A definite staple. I am glad you like the video. - Ian Anderson
Nice looking spider I`m glad you showed a couple ways to tie this . I like the second way better since I`m new to this hobby only been doing this for about 6 months . Thanks for a great video
I am glad you enjoyed the video and found something useful. I always enjoy finding more than one way to get something done.
Thank you, I am planning on tying some foam rubber flies. I want them for my upcoming trip to Spider Lake in northern Maine!
There are very few waters where the Rubber Spider does not catch fish. Glad you liked the video. - Ian Anderson
Great video! I really like how you showed a few different ways to tie the fly.
Thanks for the feedback. I find people sometimes get locked into only doing things one way. Seeing other options can make it more interesting.
Sir, I just found your channel, very nice instructions and video work. I tie this same rubber spider using barred grizzly sili legs. Some on the water experimentation revealed to me that my Michigan panfish show a distinct preference to that color pattern of legs. Every body of water that I have used them on, I have experienced very good results. Just a suggestion I thought I would share.
Craig, thank you for the nice compliment and suggestion. I have tied them as well with barred legs and they are very productive. I have not done any experimenting with this pattern concerning which type of legs might work better but it sounds like it would be a fun time finding out. Spring is on it's way. - Ian Anderson
@@DressedIrons I tied the spider in a black body with white "blood splatter" legs. The gills would not commit to eating it. I switched back to the grizzly barred legs and they would completely engulf the fly. The only hypothesis I was able to develop for this behavior was related to the presence of adult dragonflies with dark bodies and wings containing large white stripes. Just my 2 cents worth.
@@liljohnwhitetiger Craig, interesting. I also wonder if the barred legs have more contrast? From the fishes point of view. Glad you found something that works. Thanks for sharing. - Ian Anderson
Hey great vid easy fly to make, I do have a question.
When your applying the head cement/glue/varnish, what tool are you using, it looks like a metal tube syringe. 🤷♂️ I find the brush that most cements and varnishes come with are too cumbersome and apply too much product on the fly...?
So what do you use in the video..🤷♂️
Cheers
Barry, you are correct, the brushes are too big and often apply too much cement. I switched to a cement applicator (amzn.to/3vfD0QU [full disclosure, this is an affiliate link]) many years ago and love it. Your assumption is correct, it has a small tube (looks like a syringe) that helps to apply the cement just where you want it and just the right amount. There is only one caveat with this applicator, most of your head cements need to be thinned down in order to work. Many head cements are too thick to begin with and after you open the bottle they slowly get thicker as it evaporates (the lids never go back on with a 100% seal). You usually want to thin the head cement down by 50%. I started using a product called Fly-Tite (www.feather-craft.com/fly-tite-fly-tying-cement [this is not an affiliate link]) about 13 years ago because it starts out very thin in the bottle. It is also Alcohol based and can be thinned with Denatured Alcohol very easily. From time to time you may have to thin it down again and the bottle might get gummed up on the inside but it can be cleaner very easily. Plus, Fly-Tite soaks down into the thread and hardens rather then just crusting on the outside like many head cements. Thanks for the question. - Ian Anderson
Where did you get the round rubber legs in bone color? I want a bunch of this material.
Funny you should ask.... They are actually old white rubber legs (size medium, from Wapsi). The die lots change over time and I have noticed that some rubber legs are "whiter" than others over the years. Plus, the colors will fade, especially if exposed to sun light. Wapsi does not offer a Cream color in the medium size but they do in the XX-Small size. They also offer a cream colored Spanflex, which works great with the Rubber Spider. You can also use everyday rubber bands, that is how they started out. Shop you office supply store and see if you can find some thin rubber bands that are the color you are looking for. - Ian Anderson
What is the tool name that you use to put the thread on with, I've been going from store to store and no one knows what I'm talking about.
The thread is applied and managed with a Fly Tying Bobbin (amzn.to/3cURfqI). There are many types on the market, the one I have linked to is a very common and basic type. There are other videos on the internet on how to load the bobbin (ua-cam.com/video/WNHR9HD9g_g/v-deo.html) if you need to learn how to set it up. - Ian Anderson
Loved the simple fly, thanks for sharing. My question is do you cut the foam body or purchase them pre cut?
Glad you like the video. The foam body is created that way. They are sold by Wapsi and many fly shops have them. Wapsi also makes a Foam Spider Kit with everything you need to make about a dozen or so spiders (www.feather-craft.com/foam-spider-kit). That said, you can cut your own bodies they just won't be the rounded vertical shape. There are cutters on the market as well for cutting spider bodies (www.feather-craft.com/item/tb127/spider-foam-body-cutter/1.html). Hope this helps. - Ian Anderson
Thanks for asking. I had the same question. 😁
Sorry! Walks was supposed to be Wapsi!
Understood. - Ian Anderson
Stan Yamamura was a professional fly tier in Idaho Falls. I asked him how many flies he could tie in an hour. He replied 5 or 6
. Well I could tie that many, then he said dozen!🥴
That would be impressive. - Ian Anderson
Walks ant bodies do not look like what you have in this presentation. Have you modified the ant bodies first? If so, you should show how you ended up with a this presentation's body shape.
You are correct. Many years ago.... (in a Galaxy Far Far Away...) Wapsi called these little foam bodies "Spider" bodies. At some point they changed them to the "beetle" body (last I saw in the 2019 catalog). Now they have this foam labeled as an "ant" body. However, if you look on they website for "foam bodies" they have it labeled as a "spider" (wapsifly.com/products/foam/foam-bug-bodies/). To answer your question, No, I did not modify the foam body. - Ian Anderson
Talk to much.
That's called mansplaining these days. 👍 - Ian Anderson
@@DressedIrons I never heard anyone talk so much...