This study results, tie very well with what Dr Peter Attia said regarding cyclists: a professional cyclist's health enduring something as extreme as the Tour de France would be better of by doing it under a "generous" TRT dosage than by being completely natural. Also, if I remember correctly, Lance Armstrong testosterone regime when he first was admitted to the hospital for his testicular cancer was "only" 250mg (that was before starting the blood doping under M. Ferrari's supervision). Lastly, but this is purely anecdotal, quite a few endurance runner/triathletes I know, keep the same regime. In short, real world applications under very similar condition (low food/high activity) seem to confirm the study's results. Thanks and please keep up the your great job doc!
Such an interesting comment! Thanks for this and for the support. I work with a few athletes who compete in fairly high divisions and most are on “TRT” usually 200 to 250. It’s a very contentious subject but WADA does recognise TRT if medically prescribed as being legal. Although, I’ve heard some say this is not true. I read WADAs 2019 report and it does approve TRT as long as a doctor can support it. 200 to 250mg is incredibly advantageous in endurance sports and sports with weight cuts. Perhaps not so beneficial for gaining a lot of muscle but I would argue this dose is the sweet spot for any athlete.
@@NicholasDowney thanks for taking the time to reply. It's absolutely great to have a real doctor to discuss with and learn from on this topic! Further to your point, everything that has been told also works very well for "strength" guys. I am not an endurance athlete but rather a bodybuilding enthusiasm, my current TRT prescription is 100mg testosterone enanthate per week and I can tell for a fact than simply bump it up to 125-150mg does have an anabolic/anticatabolic. When testosterone is legit, a little goes a long way.
Would love to hear your opinion on fast acting compounds and their ability to preserve natural function without the addition of HCG. This is what Natesto claims to offer although the nasal delivery method doesn’t work well for many TRT patients. It seems like daily low dose Suspension injected subcutaneously could be the solution for preserving LH/FSH while therapeutically raising T levels.
So I have made a few videos in the past on Oral Testosterone and its ability to not to cause as much suppression as injectable esters. The shorter the half life the better in terms of suppression it would seem. Would need blood tests to confirm this, however.
It is the esters that dictate how fast the suspension is metabolized. Snorting it or injecting it into the eyeball isn’t going to change that. Biofeedback can not be avoided. You can affect how much shutdown occurs minimally on a lower than natural dosage, making it effectively ineffective, but have zero control on higher dosages. Then post cycle ancillaries are required. Besides, you already have a low T issue or are putting on mass so it becomes a moot point.
This time when i do it ill do it right . I got off for 6 months and all my levels are great. Coming off was horrble for two months . If i ever do it ill use 125mg cyp 2X a week and 50mg primo 2X per week
i took around 250mg of Test E for my first cycle the results were pretty good i was hypogonadal at 234ng/dl maybe it was my own fault i dont really know i had bad ED and low energy after i started T i felt amazing no more ED even the Hairloss went away pretty much then i did that for around 10 weeks wanted more results and started Primo for another 10 weeks after 300mg primo and bumping up the dose to 300 test E i decided to add nandrolone into the mix at 250mg a week for my joints also more mass gain cant complain i feel awesome no side effects aswell except a pimple here and there but nothing crazy just gained alot of size and weight the last couple of months pretty much 0 fat aswell thinking about doing primo and the nandrolone for another 10 weeks and then going back down to cruising on around 200-250mg a week
Very interesting experience! The effect NPP has on the joints is understated! In fact we have a trial at the university I work with looking into Nandrolone for men and women with osteoarthritis.
@@abdulbade it’s like bodybuilder TRT and I naturally got low T so I just blast and cruise with HCG on top of it every second day 250iu. I know it’s not really TRT but I don’t see a point running less sometimes I still got low T symptoms on 250 a week last time my libido was good but not great still a lot better then with 234ng
@@NicholasDowney nandrolone has literally allowed me to live a pain free life. Amazing. I was prescribed 120mg/week for life due to numerous debilitating joint injuries. I feel 30 years younger.
On a completely different note, yet quite probably interesting to bbers because so often do they have stomach problems. I heard about H pylori infection and the way to treat it with sever types of antibiotics, proton pump inhibitors etc pp? Would you have a - theoretical - recommendation on that? 😁 Maybe a video on the subject? If you feel your viewers want to know
Howdy Sir I have two suggestions for future videos: 1. Meldonium/Mildronate, how useful and safe is it, should/could healthy people use it (lots of athletes apparently do) 2. Steroid stacks that make sense scientifically Jusr a suggestion (or two), Thank you SIR 😁
Heya , new here. i was wondering if 300 test anavar as a first cycle(and only cycle) is a good ideea for low/moderate but permanent gains ? Also, any idea if antidepressants(SNRI) and test affect each other in any way ?
But you forgot without great genetics and work ethic you can't really benefit from it fully . I'm lucky I'm a hyper responder to it on 250mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days
@@alexminoli1138 ohhh I wasn't sure as I saw people kick start with 500, 250/250 a week which I wasn't aware of. Yeah always starts with a low is better. I think 250 a week is decent per week.
@@talijamir5395 I’m running 250 a week. Bi weekly injection. Mondays and Thursdays. Please DO NOT cycle 500 a week. It is way to high of a dose. You should get your bloods checked before starting and every three months on T regardless. Everyone reacts differently. But 250 a week, after about 3 months of injections and working out properly. You will definitely see results.
Hi, im a 2nd year med student. I wanted to start my first cycle but im confused between Anavar and testosterone E (or to take both). What is a good and safe first cycle
I think it only worked in preserving LBM because the subjects were untrained/novice lifters. Only using 200mg TestE on an advance bodybuilder who's cutting gonna cause significant losses in muscle mass. Human body is always in a rush to throw away any "excess" muscle.
To be more clear... I was being highly reckless with my steroid use. I was doing deca and tren at the same time, changing the dose all the time, trying to "come off" but then I'd be right back on some crazy ass cycle 3 weeks later. I was a fucking mess. Did that for about 4 years. Then I decided it was time for me to pay a coach who's actually won bodybuilding competitions. And he got me streight right away. Got me on trt dose for 8 weeks and then we hit a smart planned well executed cycle with proper diet and I won 2nd place in true novice bodybuilding at NPC. That was November 19. And I was afraid my sex drive was gonna be bad for so long. But it's now Dec 29, and been on 200mg test c since Nov 20 (after the competition) and I don't need to take any estrogen blocker. No gyno at all!!!! And I finally.... FINALLY have that humping sensational feeling in my hormones where I wanna tear some pussy up. Erections are fire and I ain't got noooo worries whatsoever. I'm dialed in. 1 contest prep cycle per year and then 200 cruise baby
I would rather use NPP then deca incase you get side effects you got it faster out of your system also alot of people say you stay leaner and hold less water with npp then deca
@@nerox59 thank you!! I appreciate the feedback :-) so I think I'm going to run it and just monitor real close. Do you think that that level of deca is appropriate? My test is running at about 700 w/ 100 mg weekly
@@ncn1752 Im also taking nadrolone atm im only using 250mg got great results but im on way more Testosterone im on 500mg a week maybe its to much idk but feeling great no side effects also with less my Libido doesnt go up that much really. i would try the most little but effective dose alot of people like to keep the testosterone lower when taking a 9 nor because then they fight for the receptors and the 9 nor always win then you got more T flowing around that causes more side effects. but 200-300mg is a good starting point i would say. Also when taking deca or npp i would monitor my blood pressure and maybe thinking about taking Telmirsatan just to be sure around like 20-40mg daily depends on your BP. for me i always got a great BP even on PEDS but i still take telmirsatan just to protect my heart
@@nerox59 that is all great information! I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to reply back with such a lengthy response. I really appreciate it!!!! Damn I wish I had you in my phone book LMFAO. I really appreciate the advice
@@agustinreyes6111 yah even with good e2 I would have headache, crazy night sweats feeling run down a lot . It sucks I have tried every ester . I even struggle with tinnitus too . And I have my body a chance to adapt 3-4 weeks on prop I tried even everyday injections dunno how I can set this up so it goes well. So far the closest to okay I had on cycle was 300 test prop and 100-200 primo but still not ideal feeling so hot all the time
The studies you find, explain and provide your conclusions on are great. Really interesting trial studies. 👍
Thanks Lloyd!
200mg/week high quality test c can be QUITE powerful! 😁 😎 💪🏻 💪🏻
Definitely! Especially for untrained individuals
@@NicholasDowney yes SIR 😁
How so I have personal trainer and diet on point, huge protein and exercise. About to start 200mg what could I possibly expect?
@@itiswrittenministry4131a hardon
@@LetTheBoyWatch12 😂😂😂
This study results, tie very well with what Dr Peter Attia said regarding cyclists: a professional cyclist's health enduring something as extreme as the Tour de France would be better of by doing it under a "generous" TRT dosage than by being completely natural.
Also, if I remember correctly, Lance Armstrong testosterone regime when he first was admitted to the hospital for his testicular cancer was "only" 250mg (that was before starting the blood doping under M. Ferrari's supervision).
Lastly, but this is purely anecdotal, quite a few endurance runner/triathletes I know, keep the same regime.
In short, real world applications under very similar condition (low food/high activity) seem to confirm the study's results.
Thanks and please keep up the your great job doc!
Such an interesting comment! Thanks for this and for the support.
I work with a few athletes who compete in fairly high divisions and most are on “TRT” usually 200 to 250. It’s a very contentious subject but WADA does recognise TRT if medically prescribed as being legal. Although, I’ve heard some say this is not true. I read WADAs 2019 report and it does approve TRT as long as a doctor can support it.
200 to 250mg is incredibly advantageous in endurance sports and sports with weight cuts. Perhaps not so beneficial for gaining a lot of muscle but I would argue this dose is the sweet spot for any athlete.
@@NicholasDowney thanks for taking the time to reply. It's absolutely great to have a real doctor to discuss with and learn from on this topic! Further to your point, everything that has been told also works very well for "strength" guys. I am not an endurance athlete but rather a bodybuilding enthusiasm, my current TRT prescription is 100mg testosterone enanthate per week and I can tell for a fact than simply bump it up to 125-150mg does have an anabolic/anticatabolic. When testosterone is legit, a little goes a long way.
Definitely agree with you!
Thanks for the kind words
Would love to hear your opinion on fast acting compounds and their ability to preserve natural function without the addition of HCG. This is what Natesto claims to offer although the nasal delivery method doesn’t work well for many TRT patients. It seems like daily low dose Suspension injected subcutaneously could be the solution for preserving LH/FSH while therapeutically raising T levels.
So I have made a few videos in the past on Oral Testosterone and its ability to not to cause as much suppression as injectable esters. The shorter the half life the better in terms of suppression it would seem.
Would need blood tests to confirm this, however.
It is the esters that dictate how fast the suspension is metabolized. Snorting it or injecting it into the eyeball isn’t going to change that. Biofeedback can not be avoided. You can affect how much shutdown occurs minimally on a lower than natural dosage, making it effectively ineffective, but have zero control on higher dosages. Then post cycle ancillaries are required. Besides, you already have a low T issue or are putting on mass so it becomes a moot point.
Welcome to the Little bird 🕊️
Hahaha, he used to always star in my older videos
I'm starting a 200mg a week cycle next week of cypionate, combined with cjc1295 @1mg per week, I'll keep you posted on development. Thanks doc
Is the 200 a week working good for ya?
@@josephbanker3829it is a nice low/moderat dosage i would take 100mg e3d or e4d
This time when i do it ill do it right . I got off for 6 months and all my levels are great. Coming off was horrble for two months . If i ever do it ill use 125mg cyp 2X a week and 50mg primo 2X per week
Did you use a pct
i took around 250mg of Test E for my first cycle the results were pretty good i was hypogonadal at 234ng/dl maybe it was my own fault i dont really know i had bad ED and low energy after i started T i felt amazing no more ED even the Hairloss went away pretty much then i did that for around 10 weeks wanted more results and started Primo for another 10 weeks after 300mg primo and bumping up the dose to 300 test E i decided to add nandrolone into the mix at 250mg a week for my joints also more mass gain cant complain i feel awesome no side effects aswell except a pimple here and there but nothing crazy just gained alot of size and weight the last couple of months pretty much 0 fat aswell thinking about doing primo and the nandrolone for another 10 weeks and then going back down to cruising on around 200-250mg a week
im happy for you, but 200-250mg is not TRT bro, trt is 100 mg - 140 mg. unless someone metabolizes the ester badly but thats not the norm
Very interesting experience! The effect NPP has on the joints is understated! In fact we have a trial at the university I work with looking into Nandrolone for men and women with osteoarthritis.
True it isn’t typically TRT, but I think he mentioned that he’s cruising?
@@abdulbade it’s like bodybuilder TRT and I naturally got low T so I just blast and cruise with HCG on top of it every second day 250iu. I know it’s not really TRT but I don’t see a point running less sometimes I still got low T symptoms on 250 a week last time my libido was good but not great still a lot better then with 234ng
@@NicholasDowney nandrolone has literally allowed me to live a pain free life. Amazing. I was prescribed 120mg/week for life due to numerous debilitating joint injuries. I feel 30 years younger.
On a completely different note, yet quite probably interesting to bbers because so often do they have stomach problems.
I heard about H pylori infection and the way to treat it with sever types of antibiotics, proton pump inhibitors etc pp?
Would you have a - theoretical - recommendation on that? 😁 Maybe a video on the subject? If you feel your viewers want to know
Good study showing T anticatabolic properties under rather severe - energy balance 👍
I also think it’s a good one 👌
You deserve more subs, great videos 👍
Thank you!!
Howdy Sir I have two suggestions for future videos:
1. Meldonium/Mildronate, how useful and safe is it, should/could healthy people use it (lots of athletes apparently do)
2. Steroid stacks that make sense scientifically
Jusr a suggestion (or two), Thank you SIR 😁
So odd, I am in the middle of researching Meldonium for a video!
Definitely going to do the steroid stack one!
@@NicholasDowney OK noice! 😁
Very much looking forward to it 💪🏻
Really informative videos. Really appreciate the information coming from a fellow south African 😅.
Are you available for personal messaging?
Thank you for the positive feedback!
Email me drnjdowney@gmail.com
And ill share my number if you’re interested in any of the services I provide!
Heya , new here. i was wondering if 300 test anavar as a first cycle(and only cycle) is a good ideea for low/moderate but permanent gains ? Also, any idea if antidepressants(SNRI) and test affect each other in any way ?
Just do test, start at 200 and move up to 400 slowly
Start with 1g of tren without test base then move up to 5g , if you’re dick is functioning then it means you need to take more
( it’s a joke )
I'm on trt at 200 a week is that normal
But you forgot without great genetics and work ethic you can't really benefit from it fully . I'm lucky I'm a hyper responder to it on 250mg of testosterone cypionate every 5 days
Really informative Nick
Thank you!
I want to run fst tym steriods cycle for muscle building and i trained for 5 years..could i cycle 200 mg per weeek test propinate for medium result
Military studies are interesting.. They tend to push the envelope just that leeeetle bit farther.. 😁
I’ve got a whole bunch of studies and it definitely seems like they are bringing these guys as close to death as possible 😂
@@NicholasDowney right, that's what makes it, in a way, more valuable 😎💪🏻💪🏻✋🏻
250 mg test enant for week. It s ok only 1 injection or I should split 125/125 Monday Thursday ?.
Once A week is fine, twice a week might be better for more stable levels
Isn't 250 a week little less. To get result one should take 500mg a week. 250/250 Monday /Thursday..
@@talijamir5395 no way . Are you kidding ? 500 mg of test is not a joke
@@alexminoli1138 ohhh I wasn't sure as I saw people kick start with 500, 250/250 a week which I wasn't aware of. Yeah always starts with a low is better. I think 250 a week is decent per week.
@@talijamir5395 I’m running 250 a week. Bi weekly injection. Mondays and Thursdays. Please DO NOT cycle 500 a week. It is way to high of a dose. You should get your bloods checked before starting and every three months on T regardless. Everyone reacts differently.
But 250 a week, after about 3 months of injections and working out properly. You will definitely see results.
Hi, could you look into the cycles / dosages used by olympic weightlifters?
Sure I have some anecdotes
Great video doc, thank you
Hi, im a 2nd year med student. I wanted to start my first cycle but im confused between Anavar and testosterone E (or to take both). What is a good and safe first cycle
Hi there, if you’d like to discuss this in more detail you’re welcome to email me. Drnjdowney@gmail.con
@@NicholasDowney suree
What type of testosterone? There’s many kinds cyp?
Interesting video, subscribed!
Thank you!
I think it only worked in preserving LBM because the subjects were untrained/novice lifters. Only using 200mg TestE on an advance bodybuilder who's cutting gonna cause significant losses in muscle mass. Human body is always in a rush to throw away any "excess" muscle.
Point taken, would require data to know the full extent to which 200mg of test could preserve “extra” muscle or if it does at all
Great video. Thank you
Thanks for the support
Hey doc!i'm currently on a dbol only cycle.next week is the last week.what should i use for pct?
Nolvadex and HCG is the best combination
@@NicholasDowney thank you.can i use clomid instead of nolva?
Great info.
Excellent perspective sir.
This is my TRT dose
Have a few clients on this dose also
To be more clear... I was being highly reckless with my steroid use. I was doing deca and tren at the same time, changing the dose all the time, trying to "come off" but then I'd be right back on some crazy ass cycle 3 weeks later. I was a fucking mess. Did that for about 4 years. Then I decided it was time for me to pay a coach who's actually won bodybuilding competitions. And he got me streight right away. Got me on trt dose for 8 weeks and then we hit a smart planned well executed cycle with proper diet and I won 2nd place in true novice bodybuilding at NPC. That was November 19. And I was afraid my sex drive was gonna be bad for so long. But it's now Dec 29, and been on 200mg test c since Nov 20 (after the competition) and I don't need to take any estrogen blocker. No gyno at all!!!! And I finally.... FINALLY have that humping sensational feeling in my hormones where I wanna tear some pussy up. Erections are fire and I ain't got noooo worries whatsoever. I'm dialed in. 1 contest prep cycle per year and then 200 cruise baby
Nice one!!!
200mg puts me over 1500ng/dl...
500mg to 600mg puts me around 3700ng. My cholesterol was at 164
Great video.
What does 200mg a week cost without insurance?
Look at GoodRX pricing.
Can I add 300 weekly Deca to 150 test cyp that I'm already on?charts are good
I would rather use NPP then deca incase you get side effects you got it faster out of your system also alot of people say you stay leaner and hold less water with npp then deca
@@nerox59 thank you!! I appreciate the feedback :-) so I think I'm going to run it and just monitor real close.
Do you think that that level of deca is appropriate? My test is running at about 700 w/ 100 mg weekly
@@ncn1752 Im also taking nadrolone atm im only using 250mg got great results but im on way more Testosterone im on 500mg a week maybe its to much idk but feeling great no side effects also with less my Libido doesnt go up that much really. i would try the most little but effective dose alot of people like to keep the testosterone lower when taking a 9 nor because then they fight for the receptors and the 9 nor always win then you got more T flowing around that causes more side effects. but 200-300mg is a good starting point i would say. Also when taking deca or npp i would monitor my blood pressure and maybe thinking about taking Telmirsatan just to be sure around like 20-40mg daily depends on your BP. for me i always got a great BP even on PEDS but i still take telmirsatan just to protect my heart
@@nerox59 that is all great information! I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to reply back with such a lengthy response. I really appreciate it!!!! Damn I wish I had you in my phone book LMFAO. I really appreciate the advice
@@ncn1752 no problem :) trying to spread my knowledge a bit but always inform yourself aswell i can only talk on the stuff i experienced
Where can I get test at tho? Obviously not for me it’s for my test rat
Did your lab rat find some test? I can point him in the right direction.
Can 250mg a week help to building muscle ?
No. You need at least 251mg or don't bother.
Side effects?
They gained zero muscle
Where can you get it
It's so easy
Are these numbers total or free testosterone?
Obviously total, free would never be that high
Anyone looking for test ?
If legit and price is right, ALWAYS
@@anthonybianco1929 from a pharmacy and will have a sealed cap. I have extra bottles I’m looking to get rid of
200mg a day is great!
gainz for beginners only
Definitely
Does anyone ever get increased anxiety and bad insomnia on cycle ?
Check your e2 levels
@@agustinreyes6111 yah even with good e2 I would have headache, crazy night sweats feeling run down a lot . It sucks I have tried every ester . I even struggle with tinnitus too . And I have my body a chance to adapt 3-4 weeks on prop I tried even everyday injections dunno how I can set this up so it goes well.
So far the closest to okay I had on cycle was 300 test prop and 100-200 primo but still not ideal feeling so hot all the time
How are you injecting the test one shot or splitting shots
Only when I started taking Deca low to mid level test I don’t get any sides
@@agustinreyes6111you think it’s the e2 ?
Tu t'es pris pour crack sparrow ou quoi mec, laisse ce perroquet tranquille
200mg is just high dose trt