@@bodyadigital im's sorry if he is responsible for the death of anyone you know. Every soldier kmoes the dangers of war, you shouldn't disrespect a fallen enemy
I like how the one Ukrainian soldier explained how Russia, in order to keep order among its people, had to have an enemy for them to rally against, because Russia has a lot of poverty. After hearing that, you look in the comments and see all the anti-Ukrainian statements and you have to wonder if this is true.
There is famous saying, 'russia is not comfortable unless its borders are expanding'. History repeats itself, of course this is done under disguise of protecting and helping, but there is a much bigger reason for russian and western actions.
There is probably some truth in that. It's kind of true of any tense conflict. Africa, the middle east, south/central America, North American gang-infested neighborhoods... it all boils down to poverty. People typically do not fight wars like this in societies with stable governments and economies. They go hand in hand... can't have one without the other. You have to be able to make money to live, and there needs to be a government-maintained structure propping those systems up and helping to facilitate those lifestyles for individuals and families paying-in. They don't get anything out, or worse lose things, they may stop paying-in and work against things. Grow to mistrust the status quo and start building new echo chambers. Start thinking of ways out, or ways to change the tides so that a more steady, more complete existence is assured. It's precisely when those things fail to allow adequate avenues for simply living a decent life that people take up arms and extreme ideologies. Past that point, it's a vicious cycle, because the conflicts and ideologies themselves suppress healthy government while keeping people poor and disparate. People are easily mislead and quick to sacrifice. There's a desperation to it... fight at any cost to make a world worth living in, not seeing that you're sacrificing what's left of that world in the process. When you feel like you have nothing and it's only getting worse, it's easy to toss things into the fire, neglecting their value and importance. If you have nothing anyway, what does it mean to toss more into the fire? Maybe if the fire is big enough the ones you blame for your despair will get caught in it... loss means less to you when you already feel like you're losing. If you have to lose those things, at least let there be victory through it! Or something like that. Russia sometimes seems pretty okay from the outside. But I think for groups like this to exist, there are major political, structural, and economic problems affecting A LOT of people in both countries. I can be honest, even watching a lot of this, I can't begin to say I understand it all. But I can grasp that much about it. I don't know who's really right. The whole situation is wrong to me. There are no winners here. The problems that people are fighting for are now born of the conflicts themselves mixed with the desire for a particular way of life. Even when the war ends, the factors that made it possible still remain and it's just a matter of what people will train hearts on next. So long as people are poor, don't feel at home, and don't trust the government, there will will be conflict in these places. Everything else around each conflict matters, when lining up causal chains, too. It's important to see the progression. But I also think he might be right. It all grows in the same soil where basic human needs and rights lie. Beneath that sprawling web are people who are poor and dissatisfied with the powers that be. Or they may believe in those powers but not have a satisfactory chance at the lives they want and need for themselves and their families and simply trust their country to back them in getting there. Russians and Ukrainians alike take matters into their own hands for those reasons. They want to do what they feel government can't or hasn't done for them. And all government involved takes advantage. In these conflicts, they push for a favorable outcome for them, because by then, that is easier than establishing the things that were actually needed before it started. It's almost admirable, but you know it's bad when you have teachers, bank managers, and engineers leaving those jobs to go fight, protest, or otherwise provide for their side. It says they don't have faith in those jobs anymore, which really says it all. It's not easy to set aside your whole way of life just up and leave to either escape or jump into something like this... unless it's already beyond rocky. Says a lot about the trifecta of state, society, and economy. I say all 3 are fucked if these kinds of choices make sense to people. Anybody with the things to live for that we have in stable countries would find it completely insane... like you are just throwing so much away. So it's easy to judge it as stupid and wrong. And yet these people don't. I think a lot of us criticize not realizing what it takes for so many people to make those choices. The conflicts themselves are a symptom of a breaking society. People do fucked up shit in broken societies. It's still morally wrong to do these things, but at the same time I think many people who criticize either side might not be so different in that same pair of shoes. I think you have to also look at what everyone goes through. Because when you do, you can't help but think it goes beyond Ukrainian defenders and Pro-Russian separatists. Remove that from the situation and there's a good chance people will still fight. Just under different banners, for different causes. That's been kind of bamboozling me the whole time. It's not the wild things people are doing. It's the fact that in the world they live in, those choices make *sense* to them. If things were right in either nation, there would be no civil war. The violence would have little appeal. War's no fun when you like what you have and there are things to lose in doing so. And that goes all the way down to the level of the individual and what kind of life they are afforded. To fight or even get caught up in this goes to show there's nothing better to live for in their minds. Violence is what people use when they feel there is nothing left. So yeah... happy, comfortable life, probably not happening enough before this all started.
USA is part of it, Russia isn't attacking Ukraine . Ukraine being sponsored by USA for all their military needs to bomb Eastern ukraine. Those same people banned may 9th holiday, which means you can't celebrate the day ussr won wwii, which a lot of people today still alive on that land actually fought for it and put their lives on the line, and yet they removed a tradition that freed them from the nazis.
I wholeheartedly agree. Even worse for me is that I had a Border Collie/Lab mix that looked like that pooch. On cold days, he had his own jacket. Ukraine winters are harsh and I know this pooch is cold, maybe not hungry because Slavic people adore animals. Btw, in WWII, Polish troops acquired an orphaned Brown Bear they took in as an actual enlisted man with full rank privileges. He carried heavy ammo crates to the artillery on the front and helped capture Monte Cassino. Here's a link to some videos about him, sorry I don't remember the best one: ua-cam.com/video/L4k1uExAOa4/v-deo.html
I typed about first dog. I cant hear what she is saying about the dog but I think its along the lines: even dogs have gone down. "utopice" (phonetic) is drowned
Good translation vice to make it more dramatic @ 8:10. He didn't say that they're going to drown him, he said they will put him to sleep. Yea I know, the words are similar in Russian but mistakes like these set the mood very differently.
Watching this whole documentary kicks different when you watch 7 years later.. it's all going around again and hope this agression from Russia will be defended well if something happens, some very well composed brave people out there in Ukraine. Immense loves from Republic of Turkey..
@kira it wasn't a russian invasion. Of course the Russians are supporting the separatists if they want to belong to Russia. But it isn't a russian invasion. How is it an invasion?
@kira That doen't mean that they invade the country. They are just helping the separatists and try to free the country part. You can call it invasion if you want but invasion is not nessecarily something bad
Good. You might just learn enough to stay out of it during that time, and if you don't, well, at least your family and close ones will get to see you alive a little longer. I would honestly reconsider if I was you, though.
Danny Kay if they succeed there, they will move on to another country, then another. I would rather put effort to stopping it at its core, than let it spread,
What kind of evidence do you have to support such a claim? Even if you want to disregard popular referendums in the Crimea and/or Donetsk/Lugansk regions, and want to base your views on real or perceived Russian interests alone, fine, for the sake of argument. In 2008, Russia had a war with Georgia, resulting in a Russian victory and the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. What was Russia's interest in all that? To remain the leading economic and military player in the post-soviet territories, and have the region within military range as an intimidation tactic to deter the trans-Caspian pipeline project that would bypass Russia, and to serve as a counter-balance to a potential NATO base in Georgia. When that was done, did Russia just keep on randomly invading territories for the fun of it? Of course not; it doesn't work like that in Geo-politics. If you study history, you'll see that the only times Russia got militarily involved after the fall of the USSR was ONLY when NATO and the European union were pushing in on the post-Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States, which is under the Russian sphere of influence. This is largely a defensive Geo-strategic position, unlike the expansionist ambitions of the US and NATO that intervene in foreign regions, like northern Africa and the Middle-East. So think about whose interests you'll be serving before you end your school year: those of the peoples that largely VOTED to remain politically and economically closer to Russia, or those of the western empires that give less than two shits about the inhabitants of those regions. There are no good and evil guys in politics. There are players. Putin has proved to be rather prominent, and he knows how to play with the cards he has at hand (not that I like him). If Russia was intending on using its regular army to gain control of the entire region, regardless of economic or political sanctions, it would have been done in a week for Donetsk and Lugansk, and after a no more than a month, it would have its troops near the Polish border, and they would have done it a while ago, before the NATO and possible freshmen such as yourself could get involved. Wonder why they haven't done that? Putin is not an idiot. This military involvement, plus all the additional sanctions that would follow would ruin the county's economy. The current involvement is already quite a burden on Russia; it does not possess the funds that the Federal Reserve of the IMF does.
6:00 these are truly strong women not the bullshit we see today with girls not shaving their armpits and saying that they get paid less since they work different jobs. Serious respect to these women and I hope everything turned out well for them
Russia is drowning in internal problems I know that from first hand. I'm from Serbia, from Novi Sad, Vojvodina to be more precise and there's a lot of Russians that sold their property in Russia and moved to Serbia in last couple of years especially Novi Sad because, as they say themselves, can't stand the poverty, polution, crime and many other problems. Plus here in Vojvodina they enjoy the multinational environment and no one cares who you are and where are you from, they don't even have problems with several thousands of Ukrainians that live here for centuries or some 15.000 Ruthenians that are also pro Ukrainian and panslavic, we have a significant Slovakian and Hungarian community and we all know how they feel about Russia. There's only handful of criminals and drug dealers from Serbia that went to Ukraine to fight against the government armed forces.
You wish to help? They dont need more People to die for no reason they have enough bullet sponges. They need a good politician(both sides) Who cares for his People and a politician Who will stop this uselles and stupid war.
tbh, I like the episodes with Simon more. I like how he speaks the language so I feel there's more of a understanding between him and who he's talking to.
In this dispatch, VICE News travels to the Ukrainian Army's front lines in the village of Kodema to see how soldiers there, clad in German and British gear that has been donated to them, are preparing for the much talked-about DNR offensive. Watch "Trapped by Artillery Fire: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 88)" - bit.ly/1zoiCuY
Maxim Drobny Pro-russians are not letting Vice reporters anymore to interview them or anything else, they hate the truth to be told. But they love a*s-lickers like RT, so go there and hear how glorious is Adolf Putin and novo-russia.
Today, it s not more weird, because Germany factually has no more Bundesgrenzschutz, since Arabs and Africans can cross the border how they want. Stimmt doch, oder 😂
" Russia is never comfortable unless her borders are expanding " Russia needs a enemy to rally against to counter their serious social and economic problems the country faces or it would completely fall apart.
What are you talking about? Russia has been falling apart for over 1000 years, and everything cannot fall apart. Poles, Germans, French, British, Swedes and all of Europe came to us with the war. It was the United States that created the NATO bloc and unleashed the Cold War. It is NATO that is approaching Russia's borders, and not vice versa. It is against Russia that sanctions are imposed on trumped-up charges. Open your eyes and see that the world is much wider and more colorful than the illusions in your head. I also want to remind you that the United States supported the coup d'etat in Ukraine. It was as a result of this coup that Ukraine lost Crimea and received a civil war on its territory.
@@olafkessler8886 In fact, everything is even more complicated. Russians and Ukrainians are one people, divided according to the principle of Tutsi and Hutu. Ukraine itself is also heterogeneous. This includes territories that recently belonged to Poland, Romania, Hungary, and these territories are inhabited by ethnic Poles, Romanians and Hungarians. Rusyns also live in Transcarpathia. Left-bank Ukraine is inhabited by Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians-Little Russians. And therefore, Western Ukraine (which was part of Poland and only in 1939 was annexed to the USSR) decided to establish its own rules for the whole of Ukraine. Now they decide what language to speak, that the heroes who have been in Russia (Ukraine) for 1000 years are not heroes at all. That the grandfathers who defeated fascism are not really heroes. That the Russian language, which is spoken by the majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine, should be banned, and Russia itself is an enemy, and those Ukrainians who want normal good-neighborly relations with Russia are also enemies. And that's not all the contradictions. Therefore, a split in Ukraine is inevitable. It is the matter of time. Russia does not need to fight, it just needs to pick it up in time when it falls away from Ukraine. Hungarians, Romanians and Poles will do the same. The Romanians have already captured the Serpentine Island.
I like this reporter, he stays neutral and reports on what he has seen, unlike when Simon was there. Simon was very one sided and anti DPR & LPR. I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the vice reporting on this Ukrainian conflict most of the civilians, even in Ukrainian held areas in the east blame the Ukrainian army and government.
Because people are idiots. Ukraine shells hit civilians its suddenly ''fashist kiev junta''. DNR/LNR shells hit civilians its suddenly ''ukrainian army isn't defending us well enough''. Always blaming Ukraine. Ukraine didn't start this war.
Well I think you'd probably be biased against the same people who abducted you, and held you hostage for three days in an underground cell whilst being beaten to a pulp.
Simon Ostrovsky is very anti-Terrorist because those ass hats took him prisoner against law and interrogated him. I would be very anti terrorist to those whom took me prisoner.
TwoFistsOneHalleluja They're both dropping bombs on civilians. Do you understand russian/ukrainian? Because if you want some facts I can show you some gruesome videos from both sides.
The people of Crimea voted to be part of Russia. In 1783, Queen Catherine the great decided to liberate some Turkish ruled kingdoms that were ruled for a number of centuries by the Ottomaan empire. Few American lawmakers with no knowledge of the old world seem to oppose Russians for no reason. The modern day American people / lawmaker is naive, and think just like the native American dead leaders, such as Pocahoncho and Sitting Bull and Pontiac. . Few American lawmakers are upset with Queen Catherine the great as she created a country called Ukraine in 1783 in the villages surrounding Kiev, while putting predominantly Russian speaking Crimea into Russia in 1783. I think she did the right thing by putting Crimea in Russia. A coupe of lawmakers in the western hemisphere may try stunts such as by complaining to native American ex - leader Pontiac about Queen Catherine's correct decision to put predominantly Russian speaking tiny Crimea in Russia in 1783.
Lol US wont dont shit. Look here even Kiev is more corrupt than the DNR. Ukraine is dead if the people start seeing that the government doesnt do shite
SACC found the commie-putin shill. Must be fascinating to support a system and ideology that inevitably leads to collapse, but you know the old Soviet saying: “Capitalism can’t destroy you if you destroy yourself!”
wwwelkam Fuck, that's awful. I mean, they have to have some things... why can't they try to give it away instead of going to the last resort. God damn, this may sound selfish, but I feel more sympathy towards animals than I do towards humans. Poor thing.
They dont want to drown him, they want painlessly put him to death in vet clinic. Vice just mistranslated word "Усыплять" - painlessly put animal to death with medicine , maybe because it's sounds similar to "Утоплять" - to drown
Thoughts and prayers for that poor dog. Hit 3 times by a car and then sent to the Frontline of an active war. That poor animal is gonna have so much PTSD!
@@veronicakelly6006 Go keyboard warrior! Plane Ticket to Poland > cross the bordear by train. I done it twice as volunteer since 24feb. To feed kids, whom parents were literally killed. They say it, and you feel they haven't processed the feeling yet. And it's very very hard to not cry in front of them. There are also senior people, living under rubble because they cant move. Neither have anywhere to go. Be a DECENT human and save her too, huh? Or just the dog? Ah right. You dont really care at all. No real sense of caring. Or if the doggo life is same worth as ur family, I imagine you'd go rescue dogs while ur parents go due famine or cold.
2:45 was a surprisingly well educated answer that I did not expect from someone at that position. Russia's actions are ironically very similar to pre-WW2 Germany. Unfortunately, further sanctions against Russia and stronger NATO presence will only make it easier for Putin to rally his soviet-romanticizing followers in that region and artificially drag that war out even longer. Average Russians never turn on their leaders unless their leaders turn on the good old Russian principles of trampling over neighboring countries. You would think they as a people would have moved on since the collapse of the Soviet Union, kind of like how Germany moved on after the defeat of the 3rd Reich after the war, but they haven't. Russia is still very much like in the old days. There is no viable progressive social movement like in Germany. Those get stomped into the ground by the executive the moment they spring up. Russia makes the U.S. Bible belt look like hippies.
Even though the Ukrainian military was pushed back in areas it casualties are much lower. 1500 Ukrainian dead while 2400 separatists have died. Goes to show how much the Russians care about their troops.
Vice, good reporting and kudos for being brave enough to send reporters out into the war zone. However, you have a slight slip up in translation at 4m 50s mark. Instead of "Every day they [the DNR] are firing into the houses" the man said "On a nearly daily basis, civilian homes are receiving direct fire"
wyvernlord23 Chechens live happily with russians and have a very pro russian leader. The "Chechen war" was a fight against ACTUAL religious terrorism not a national uprising. it was not supported by most tribal leaders checnya was dragged to war by Jihadists from around the glove
Subbyl You obviously dont know anyone from east Ukraine. I have friends and family there, and even in western Ukraine, like most Russian people. And they never saw themselves as ukranian, they never spoke ukranian, and dont want to be part of Ukraine especially now. but there were attempts to break away even in 1992.
So what you're saying is that there's a minority of violent extremists calling for separatism,forcing many peaceful citizens to live in fear of violence, forcing the state to intervene militarily, and generally making everything worse? Huh.
I enjoy the scenes with the soldiers more than the civilian ones, I like seeing their equipment and inventions on the fronts. I love this series overall. Keep up the good work Vice!
If russia allowed an internationally monitored vote in Donetsk, then they might be right but as long as they are denying any vote that is internationally monitored ukraine has every right to fight
"Ukraine above all else" kind of reminds me of "Deutschland über alles". Also, I love how the Ukrainian soldier states that Russia must be involved because it needs to distract its impoverished people. That's a dubious claim considering the fact that average salary in Russia is twice of that in Ukraine, and around 10% of Ukraine's own population actually work in Russia.
Finally there is something on here that shows what everyone I know there (in Ukraine) has been telling me. There is another vid on here somewhere that show how the people of Donetsk trying to have a vote to "make sure they stayed Ukrainian" but putin's hit men over ran all of the polling stations and threatened everyone with being shot if they went there and voted!!! If anyone knows where vid that is, can you tell me? (I've been trying to find it for weeks now) What kills me is "how many people ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT to what is REALLY going on here!!!" (or they are just satanic and support it)
MOTOFIENDXXX Yes the Russian propaganda trolls have been working overtime. I know the vid you mean----I too have not seen it for ages. It is probably in the Ukrainian language. Hope a Ukrainian will help her has the Cyrillic keyboard--- I do not or would go hunting. Are you are Uke from the US? I'm a Uke from Oz. I speak the language and can read Ukrainian and some Russian, but only understand 50% of that dog language.
Vinochok Uke Yea, and what kills me is "how many there are" (and how some even live in this country!!). These DEFINITELY "ARE" THE LAST DAYS!!! Thanks again Vin.
MOTOFIENDXXX I can't believe TRAITORS, who live in the west, and support Putin. Othere are just paid Russian trolls . Who knows what has happened to Putin and if there will be a Russian civil war?? Last days for sure. Thanks for making contact "buddy"
Vinochok Uke Yea, I'm trying to keep up on it and it looks like the people are starting to come around. Before all they knew was that their lives have been crap forever, but they didn't know that it was because of putin (because putin was strangling the Government in Ukraine and constantly making them jack even their own people over), but now that the DPR has shelled their towns over and over (and HAVE BEEN CAUGHT BY THE PEOPLE!!!), they are seeing that it has been Russia all along and are starting to stand against them. All of the towns around Donetsk are starting to put up Ukrainian flags all over, signaling that they don't want to belong to the DPR or Russia, but that has costed them as well (because the DPR shells them for that- like what they did to Mariupol). They're weaker now. So it's starting to look like they wont be able to carry on that much longer (putin did get himself into a spot here, because he can't really supply Crimea without that whole stretch of land from Russia to Crimea, at least not without it costing him more) . ***MAYBE WE'LL JUST GO IN THERE AND SEE IF UKRAINE WANTS TO JOIN THE U.S., huh?*** (make them "The United States of Ukraine"?- like a 'sister country' to us?) HA!!! You bet. Till next time....
MOTOFIENDXXX Yes---- pity US did not give weapons earlier and put boots in the ground in the early statges. Sill waiting for Obama. But, Russian will not stop, so it will escalate. With the US as an allie haha--- Putin is afraid of that !! Ukraine can be like another state of USA--- it will be safer or a sister country. Finally pull Ukraine up. I love your enthusiasm to give those Moscovites shit.---- on Russian soil !! haha, see how they like their cities as rubble. Many countries around would welcome it, like Georgia etc. But Ukraine has the best looking women in Europe!! 2 years in a row, they were voted the most beautiful beating Sweden twice !! Russian women did not make the top 10 ! So US boys-- there are rewards for being warriors.
I've been watching these Dispatch clips for a couple of days and it's terrifying to see how war affects soldiers on both sides so that they demonize and dehumanize each other to such extent. The hatred some of them feel is unbelievable. None of them are absolutely good or absolutely evil. War turns these men into something unrecognizable and extreme.
Germany stands behind Ukraine! I want to do everything I can to support the brave people of this Nation. Never back down! Never accept defeat! This is not Russian territory! To Victory!
Just as a reminder. The slogan they shout in the first sequence "Glory to Ukraine - Glory to heroes - Death to the enemies" is a slogan from the nationalist-fascist ukrainian "Bandera" army from the WW2. Since the Maidanist used it on purpous (they knew very well where it came from and who used it, they use it because not although the fascists used it) it has become totally normal and accepted to shout this slogan without fearing consequences. Hell, it even get's promoted by the government and poltics. And did I mention that soviet monuments get destroyed, while Bandera ones get erected? Tells you enough about the current "proeuropean" political viewpoint of the ukrainian gouvernment, about the maidan "revolution" and this "army". True to the motto: We legalise fascism because we gained control with violence and now we will maintain our reign with violence (in eastern Ukraine) All I can say: Go rebels and kick some ass They deserve it
I have a few friends who donated their old uniforms to the Ukrainian Army. Glory to Ukraine, everyone who loves a peaceful Europe is hoping that you will prevail.
The Ukrainian army is done for. If the cauldron is closed at Debaltsevo trapping ~8,000 UAF troops, and given the recent advances of the rebels, this might happen in a matter of weeks or even days, you can pretty much say there's no more forces left in Ukraine capable of confronting the NAF. Already, Poroshenko is sending young untrained men right into the heat of battle - it's as if he swapped his chocolate king career for a hobby in meat mincing. The NAF is holding higher ground, firstly, because its soldiers are acting out of a conviction that they either fight or they die, as opposed to UAF's 'either you fight or you lose a piece of territory and/or get prosecuted'. Secondly: because the NAF are already more battle-hardened, better trained and organized, as their entire collection of troops is constantly exposed to warfare, and has many experienced officers and veterans within its ranks. Lastly, I'm pretty sure Russia provides tactical support to the NAF, and tactics isn't Kiev's strong suit, even Washington aides are helpless here. Wish the west would learn from history - don't cross the Russians, you're bound to regret it.
Btw, if you look at how Fascism originated in Italy, you could draw similarities to Ukraine's Maidan revolution. Italian liberals and oligarchs funded the fascist party because they thought they could use fascists to protect their wealth and bring about 'positive' social and economic changes. Maidan was instigated by Washington and his east European lackeys, but was largely financed by Ukraine's oligarchs - rivals to Yanukovich's clan, because they thought they could gain even more wealth and control by kicking Yanukovich and his friends out. And all of this was done while the crowds on the street were yelling "Hang a Musovite on a tree" because they wanted to become as socially and economically advanced as EU is.
David Dziekonski they dont shell their own civilians purposefully. most of them are natives of this region. they are fighting for their families on their ground. ukranian army consists from people who were mobilized from other ukraine regions. they have come on foreign land to kill. under the slogans of 'glory to ukraine, death to the enemies, ukraine is above all'. they are calling this 'ATO' (anti terrorist operation) using heavy weaponry against civilians violating constitution. you wont see that it is civilian war in ukrainian mass media. they showing this as war against russia. that it is russia is shelling donetsk and other cities. that there is no rebels only russian troops.
Respect to these brave hospital personnel. Can't understand how frightening this must be and at same time must do your job, getting people healthy. Slava Ukraine
Notice how the Ukrainians don't cover there faces when being interviewed.
@superpsion Motorola was funny guy :)
@superpsion RIP Givi
@@moondawg7949 hope he rot in hel
@@bodyadigital im's sorry if he is responsible for the death of anyone you know. Every soldier kmoes the dangers of war, you shouldn't disrespect a fallen enemy
Death to russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how the one Ukrainian soldier explained how Russia, in order to keep order among its people, had to have an enemy for them to rally against, because Russia has a lot of poverty. After hearing that, you look in the comments and see all the anti-Ukrainian statements and you have to wonder if this is true.
There is famous saying, 'russia is not comfortable unless its borders are expanding'. History repeats itself, of course this is done under disguise of protecting and helping, but there is a much bigger reason for russian and western actions.
There is probably some truth in that. It's kind of true of any tense conflict. Africa, the middle east, south/central America, North American gang-infested neighborhoods... it all boils down to poverty. People typically do not fight wars like this in societies with stable governments and economies. They go hand in hand... can't have one without the other. You have to be able to make money to live, and there needs to be a government-maintained structure propping those systems up and helping to facilitate those lifestyles for individuals and families paying-in. They don't get anything out, or worse lose things, they may stop paying-in and work against things. Grow to mistrust the status quo and start building new echo chambers. Start thinking of ways out, or ways to change the tides so that a more steady, more complete existence is assured. It's precisely when those things fail to allow adequate avenues for simply living a decent life that people take up arms and extreme ideologies.
Past that point, it's a vicious cycle, because the conflicts and ideologies themselves suppress healthy government while keeping people poor and disparate. People are easily mislead and quick to sacrifice. There's a desperation to it... fight at any cost to make a world worth living in, not seeing that you're sacrificing what's left of that world in the process. When you feel like you have nothing and it's only getting worse, it's easy to toss things into the fire, neglecting their value and importance. If you have nothing anyway, what does it mean to toss more into the fire? Maybe if the fire is big enough the ones you blame for your despair will get caught in it... loss means less to you when you already feel like you're losing. If you have to lose those things, at least let there be victory through it!
Or something like that.
Russia sometimes seems pretty okay from the outside. But I think for groups like this to exist, there are major political, structural, and economic problems affecting A LOT of people in both countries. I can be honest, even watching a lot of this, I can't begin to say I understand it all. But I can grasp that much about it. I don't know who's really right. The whole situation is wrong to me. There are no winners here. The problems that people are fighting for are now born of the conflicts themselves mixed with the desire for a particular way of life. Even when the war ends, the factors that made it possible still remain and it's just a matter of what people will train hearts on next. So long as people are poor, don't feel at home, and don't trust the government, there will will be conflict in these places.
Everything else around each conflict matters, when lining up causal chains, too. It's important to see the progression. But I also think he might be right. It all grows in the same soil where basic human needs and rights lie. Beneath that sprawling web are people who are poor and dissatisfied with the powers that be. Or they may believe in those powers but not have a satisfactory chance at the lives they want and need for themselves and their families and simply trust their country to back them in getting there. Russians and Ukrainians alike take matters into their own hands for those reasons. They want to do what they feel government can't or hasn't done for them. And all government involved takes advantage. In these conflicts, they push for a favorable outcome for them, because by then, that is easier than establishing the things that were actually needed before it started. It's almost admirable, but you know it's bad when you have teachers, bank managers, and engineers leaving those jobs to go fight, protest, or otherwise provide for their side. It says they don't have faith in those jobs anymore, which really says it all. It's not easy to set aside your whole way of life just up and leave to either escape or jump into something like this... unless it's already beyond rocky. Says a lot about the trifecta of state, society, and economy. I say all 3 are fucked if these kinds of choices make sense to people.
Anybody with the things to live for that we have in stable countries would find it completely insane... like you are just throwing so much away. So it's easy to judge it as stupid and wrong. And yet these people don't. I think a lot of us criticize not realizing what it takes for so many people to make those choices. The conflicts themselves are a symptom of a breaking society. People do fucked up shit in broken societies. It's still morally wrong to do these things, but at the same time I think many people who criticize either side might not be so different in that same pair of shoes. I think you have to also look at what everyone goes through. Because when you do, you can't help but think it goes beyond Ukrainian defenders and Pro-Russian separatists. Remove that from the situation and there's a good chance people will still fight. Just under different banners, for different causes.
That's been kind of bamboozling me the whole time. It's not the wild things people are doing. It's the fact that in the world they live in, those choices make *sense* to them. If things were right in either nation, there would be no civil war. The violence would have little appeal. War's no fun when you like what you have and there are things to lose in doing so. And that goes all the way down to the level of the individual and what kind of life they are afforded. To fight or even get caught up in this goes to show there's nothing better to live for in their minds. Violence is what people use when they feel there is nothing left. So yeah... happy, comfortable life, probably not happening enough before this all started.
USA is part of it, Russia isn't attacking Ukraine
. Ukraine being sponsored by USA for all their military needs to bomb Eastern ukraine. Those same people banned may 9th holiday, which means you can't celebrate the day ussr won wwii, which a lot of people today still alive on that land actually fought for it and put their lives on the line, and yet they removed a tradition that freed them from the nazis.
@@kap1526 hahaha
As a Ukrainian we also have poverty since 100 billion dollars that we had got stole by oligarchs and were poured in to other countries
Poor doggy...
You don't deserve this.
I wholeheartedly agree. Even worse for me is that I had a Border Collie/Lab mix that looked like that pooch. On cold days, he had his own jacket. Ukraine winters are harsh and I know this pooch is cold, maybe not hungry because Slavic people adore animals.
Btw, in WWII, Polish troops acquired an orphaned Brown Bear they took in as an actual enlisted man with full rank privileges. He carried heavy ammo crates to the artillery on the front and helped capture Monte Cassino. Here's a link to some videos about him, sorry I don't remember the best one:
ua-cam.com/video/L4k1uExAOa4/v-deo.html
I typed about first dog. I cant hear what she is saying about the dog but I think its along the lines: even dogs have gone down. "utopice" (phonetic) is drowned
@@robertmarks317 They want to evacuate and the guy said they don't know what to do with the dog and they might have to drown the dog. Not cool.
@@andriesgeyser5524 it was a mistranslation.
@@tankieflanker4119 It doesn't sound like a mistranslation to me (native speaker) besides 'to drown' instead of 'to euthanize'
That one man’s take on why Russia goes to war is extremely accurate
Good translation vice to make it more dramatic @ 8:10. He didn't say that they're going to drown him, he said they will put him to sleep. Yea I know, the words are similar in Russian but mistakes like these set the mood very differently.
And there in lies a whole other translational problem 😔
He said "Usopleati" which means putting it to sleep, drowning sounds as"Utopleati" easy to make a mistake
@@Kuticul Polish its utopeech (phonetically). I couldn't hear anything similar to that.
Watching this whole documentary kicks different when you watch 7 years later.. it's all going around again and hope this agression from Russia will be defended well if something happens, some very well composed brave people out there in Ukraine. Immense loves from Republic of Turkey..
the soldier showing them around the bunker in the beginning of this episode looks like putin
The fighting got worse. Pray for peace.
im afraid where your from there is quite big problems arising aswell.. your leader needs to go.
Wait a minute....That is putin, how the hell did he manage to become a soldier in ukraine?
Im binge watching this series now. This is one of the best war documentaries ever made, in my personal opinion.
This is so sad, respect and love from Lithuania 🇱🇹❤🇺🇦
Love to Russia from lithuania 🇱🇹🇷🇺
@@sebastianhtun1756 It's not over
@@sebastianhtun1756 far from over
My prayers are with Ukraine. God keep you safe my friends.
ukrainian government is the evil one in the war. od bless the russian separatists fighting for their freedom
@kira it wasn't a russian invasion. Of course the Russians are supporting the separatists if they want to belong to Russia. But it isn't a russian invasion. How is it an invasion?
@kira That doen't mean that they invade the country. They are just helping the separatists and try to free the country part. You can call it invasion if you want but invasion is not nessecarily something bad
@kira but they are liberating the russians in ukraine who were opressed by the ukrainian government.
@kira so interventing in ww2 as americans was bad too or what
8:07 "Now we will have to drown (the dog), because we don't know what to do with him"
WTF???
Vice did not translate that right
101chickendance
The will put down the dog, not drown
They are going to leave toqn and cant tKe dog with them
They translate right im know im from ukraine they will drown the dog
GamingTaylor that's Russia for ya. Total nonsensical brutality
Wooot! Ukraine! Canada supports you!
EU support Ukraine for sure. among with NATO.
As a Ukrainian-Canadian I do not support the illegitimate US-backed Kiev junta shelling Ukrainian citizens.
I support thr civilians. I shit on Banderas though. But pice to Ukrainian civilians!
taso denpei m.ua-cam.com/video/Op5YueSzrII/v-deo.html
TYKX Love Canada
Glory to Ukraine!
ukraine= fashists
@@olafkessler8886 you really want that Kremlin paycheck don’t you?
@@M_V_L Yep I do
@@olafkessler8886 nice
Sad i can only think of joining the volunteers in june, after school. Keep on fighting Ukraine !
Good. You might just learn enough to stay out of it during that time, and if you don't, well, at least your family and close ones will get to see you alive a little longer. I would honestly reconsider if I was you, though.
Danny Kay if they succeed there, they will move on to another country, then another. I would rather put effort to stopping it at its core, than let it spread,
What kind of evidence do you have to support such a claim? Even if you want to disregard popular referendums in the Crimea and/or Donetsk/Lugansk regions, and want to base your views on real or perceived Russian interests alone, fine, for the sake of argument.
In 2008, Russia had a war with Georgia, resulting in a Russian victory and the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. What was Russia's interest in all that? To remain the leading economic and military player in the post-soviet territories, and have the region within military range as an intimidation tactic to deter the trans-Caspian pipeline project that would bypass Russia, and to serve as a counter-balance to a potential NATO base in Georgia.
When that was done, did Russia just keep on randomly invading territories for the fun of it? Of course not; it doesn't work like that in Geo-politics. If you study history, you'll see that the only times Russia got militarily involved after the fall of the USSR was ONLY when NATO and the European union were pushing in on the post-Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States, which is under the Russian sphere of influence. This is largely a defensive Geo-strategic position, unlike the expansionist ambitions of the US and NATO that intervene in foreign regions, like northern Africa and the Middle-East. So think about whose interests you'll be serving before you end your school year: those of the peoples that largely VOTED to remain politically and economically closer to Russia, or those of the western empires that give less than two shits about the inhabitants of those regions.
There are no good and evil guys in politics. There are players. Putin has proved to be rather prominent, and he knows how to play with the cards he has at hand (not that I like him). If Russia was intending on using its regular army to gain control of the entire region, regardless of economic or political sanctions, it would have been done in a week for Donetsk and Lugansk, and after a no more than a month, it would have its troops near the Polish border, and they would have done it a while ago, before the NATO and possible freshmen such as yourself could get involved. Wonder why they haven't done that? Putin is not an idiot. This military involvement, plus all the additional sanctions that would follow would ruin the county's economy. The current involvement is already quite a burden on Russia; it does not possess the funds that the Federal Reserve of the IMF does.
I don't think I'm following you. Can you please rephrase your sentence in a more comprehensive way?
Ukrainian soldiers are fighting for illegal communist borders, trying to expel or subjugate the local Russian population.
6:00 these are truly strong women not the bullshit we see today with girls not shaving their armpits and saying that they get paid less since they work different jobs. Serious respect to these women and I hope everything turned out well for them
They’re men of culture watching the penguins on the tv
Ukrainian Pingu I guess?
Russia is drowning in internal problems I know that from first hand. I'm from Serbia, from Novi Sad, Vojvodina to be more precise and there's a lot of Russians that sold their property in Russia and moved to Serbia in last couple of years especially Novi Sad because, as they say themselves, can't stand the poverty, polution, crime and many other problems. Plus here in Vojvodina they enjoy the multinational environment and no one cares who you are and where are you from, they don't even have problems with several thousands of Ukrainians that live here for centuries or some 15.000 Ruthenians that are also pro Ukrainian and panslavic, we have a significant Slovakian and Hungarian community and we all know how they feel about Russia. There's only handful of criminals and drug dealers from Serbia that went to Ukraine to fight against the government armed forces.
i watched every episode and feel so sorry for all the victims in this war
God bless the Ukraine
0:52 i swear i thought it was Putin!!!!!
Undercover lol
That’s because he is...
These guys are real freedom fighters, wish I could help. Respect from a US Marine
@@sashanavruzov2161 those were communist not freedom fighters
@@ianbarry6146 Contras was right wing not left wing.
You wish to help? They dont need more People to die for no reason they have enough bullet sponges. They need a good politician(both sides) Who cares for his People and a politician Who will stop this uselles and stupid war.
Glory to Ukraine
I stand with Ukraine
tbh, I like the episodes with Simon more. I like how he speaks the language so I feel there's more of a understanding between him and who he's talking to.
His native language is russian.
In this dispatch, VICE News travels to the Ukrainian Army's front lines in the village of Kodema to see how soldiers there, clad in German and British gear that has been donated to them, are preparing for the much talked-about DNR offensive.
Watch "Trapped by Artillery Fire: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 88)" - bit.ly/1zoiCuY
Некому люди не нужны. Все остаются со своими проблемами в одиночку и так миллион как минимум, 1 миллион людей. Просто пиздец.
вайс, либо показываете обе стороны либо идите НАХУЙ
Helloooooo
Maxim Drobny
Pro-russians are not letting Vice reporters anymore to interview them or anything else, they hate the truth to be told.
But they love a*s-lickers like RT, so go there and hear how glorious is Adolf Putin and novo-russia.
But why Vice is not ever there in Donetsk now, then people get killed standimg in humanitarian aid line???
Being german, it is kind of weird to see the Lieutenant sitting there in a bunker wearing a german Bundesgrenzschutz jacket, talking Ukrainian.
Today, it s not more weird, because Germany factually has no more Bundesgrenzschutz, since Arabs and Africans can cross the border how they want.
Stimmt doch, oder 😂
Glory to Ukraine, greetings from Georgia.
Thank you Vice for restarting coverage of what's going on in Ukraine. It's greatly appreciated.
" Russia is never comfortable unless her borders are expanding " Russia needs a enemy to rally against to counter their serious social and economic problems the country faces or it would completely fall apart.
What are you talking about? Russia has been falling apart for over 1000 years, and everything cannot fall apart. Poles, Germans, French, British, Swedes and all of Europe came to us with the war. It was the United States that created the NATO bloc and unleashed the Cold War. It is NATO that is approaching Russia's borders, and not vice versa. It is against Russia that sanctions are imposed on trumped-up charges. Open your eyes and see that the world is much wider and more colorful than the illusions in your head. I also want to remind you that the United States supported the coup d'etat in Ukraine. It was as a result of this coup that Ukraine lost Crimea and received a civil war on its territory.
not really. in fact they ust want krimean peninsula back and the russians living in ukraine want to be russian territory.
@@olafkessler8886 In fact, everything is even more complicated. Russians and Ukrainians are one people, divided according to the principle of Tutsi and Hutu. Ukraine itself is also heterogeneous. This includes territories that recently belonged to Poland, Romania, Hungary, and these territories are inhabited by ethnic Poles, Romanians and Hungarians. Rusyns also live in Transcarpathia. Left-bank Ukraine is inhabited by Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians-Little Russians. And therefore, Western Ukraine (which was part of Poland and only in 1939 was annexed to the USSR) decided to establish its own rules for the whole of Ukraine. Now they decide what language to speak, that the heroes who have been in Russia (Ukraine) for 1000 years are not heroes at all. That the grandfathers who defeated fascism are not really heroes. That the Russian language, which is spoken by the majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine, should be banned, and Russia itself is an enemy, and those Ukrainians who want normal good-neighborly relations with Russia are also enemies. And that's not all the contradictions. Therefore, a split in Ukraine is inevitable. It is the matter of time. Russia does not need to fight, it just needs to pick it up in time when it falls away from Ukraine. Hungarians, Romanians and Poles will do the same. The Romanians have already captured the Serpentine Island.
@@Levyy_Pravyy i totally support u
@@Levyy_Pravyy Bruh.l.
I like this reporter, he stays neutral and reports on what he has seen, unlike when Simon was there. Simon was very one sided and anti DPR & LPR. I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the vice reporting on this Ukrainian conflict most of the civilians, even in Ukrainian held areas in the east blame the Ukrainian army and government.
Because people are idiots. Ukraine shells hit civilians its suddenly ''fashist kiev junta''. DNR/LNR shells hit civilians its suddenly ''ukrainian army isn't defending us well enough''. Always blaming Ukraine. Ukraine didn't start this war.
Well I think you'd probably be biased against the same people who abducted you, and held you hostage for three days in an underground cell whilst being beaten to a pulp.
Simon Ostrovsky is very anti-Terrorist because those ass hats took him prisoner against law and interrogated him. I would be very anti terrorist to those whom took me prisoner.
OptimalElement well then who did start the war because i don't think the DNR invaded Kiev did they ?
TwoFistsOneHalleluja
They're both dropping bombs on civilians. Do you understand russian/ukrainian? Because if you want some facts I can show you some gruesome videos from both sides.
The people of Crimea voted to be part of Russia. In 1783, Queen Catherine the great decided to liberate some Turkish ruled kingdoms that were ruled for a number of centuries by the Ottomaan empire. Few American lawmakers with no knowledge of the old world seem to oppose Russians for no reason. The modern day American people / lawmaker is naive, and think just like the native American dead leaders, such as Pocahoncho and Sitting Bull and Pontiac. . Few American lawmakers are upset with Queen Catherine the great as she created a country called Ukraine in 1783 in the villages surrounding Kiev, while putting predominantly Russian speaking Crimea into Russia in 1783. I think she did the right thing by putting Crimea in Russia. A coupe of lawmakers in the western hemisphere may try stunts such as by complaining to native American ex - leader Pontiac about Queen Catherine's correct decision to put predominantly Russian speaking tiny Crimea in Russia in 1783.
Ukraine just needs to be strong until Spring, US troops are being sent to train the Ukrainian national guard.
Didn't work very well in Georgia. LOL
chwder50 shut up
That´s not going to do shit.
Lol US wont dont shit. Look here even Kiev is more corrupt than the DNR. Ukraine is dead if the people start seeing that the government doesnt do shite
SACC found the commie-putin shill. Must be fascinating to support a system and ideology that inevitably leads to collapse, but you know the old Soviet saying: “Capitalism can’t destroy you if you destroy yourself!”
Why the fuck are they going to drown the poor dog....!
cant feed it
wwwelkam Fuck, that's awful. I mean, they have to have some things... why can't they try to give it away instead of going to the last resort. God damn, this may sound selfish, but I feel more sympathy towards animals than I do towards humans. Poor thing.
Or they could shoot it I mean that's less painful isn't it
They dont want to drown him, they want painlessly put him to death in vet clinic. Vice just mistranslated word "Усыплять" - painlessly put animal to death with medicine , maybe because it's sounds similar to "Утоплять" - to drown
Comrade Dog You are correct. I've noticed that too. He said "put down", not "drown" - усыплять / утоплять.
Thoughts and prayers for that poor dog. Hit 3 times by a car and then sent to the Frontline of an active war. That poor animal is gonna have so much PTSD!
What is even worse they are going to drown the poor thing just wish l was there to save its life so barbaric
@@veronicakelly6006 Go keyboard warrior! Plane Ticket to Poland > cross the bordear by train.
I done it twice as volunteer since 24feb. To feed kids, whom parents were literally killed. They say it, and you feel they haven't processed the feeling yet. And it's very very hard to not cry in front of them.
There are also senior people, living under rubble because they cant move. Neither have anywhere to go. Be a DECENT human and save her too, huh? Or just the dog?
Ah right. You dont really care at all. No real sense of caring. Or if the doggo life is same worth as ur family, I imagine you'd go rescue dogs while ur parents go due famine or cold.
Same suggestion for you. Big Hero!
in a way i respect the ukrainian forces. mostly because they pick areas away from civilian locations using no one as shields.
DON'T LOOK AT THE COMMENTS THEY ARE FULL OF RUSSIAN TROLLS
full of ukrainian trolls*
*ukrainian trolls moron
@@maverick7376 thank you I will continue to serve the motherland comrade
2:45 was a surprisingly well educated answer that I did not expect from someone at that position. Russia's actions are ironically very similar to pre-WW2 Germany. Unfortunately, further sanctions against Russia and stronger NATO presence will only make it easier for Putin to rally his soviet-romanticizing followers in that region and artificially drag that war out even longer. Average Russians never turn on their leaders unless their leaders turn on the good old Russian principles of trampling over neighboring countries. You would think they as a people would have moved on since the collapse of the Soviet Union, kind of like how Germany moved on after the defeat of the 3rd Reich after the war, but they haven't. Russia is still very much like in the old days. There is no viable progressive social movement like in Germany. Those get stomped into the ground by the executive the moment they spring up. Russia makes the U.S. Bible belt look like hippies.
This has literally turned into a 21st century cold war
Mean while in america we're confused about men trying to use the ladies room😀
Andrew Mannett ladies trying to use the men’s*
@@bayyoud lol nah born a male always a male hehe
I'm a Ukrainian living in Ukraine. Screw you, let people live their lives
Poor pets :`(
Even though the Ukrainian military was pushed back in areas it casualties are much lower. 1500 Ukrainian dead while 2400 separatists have died. Goes to show how much the Russians care about their troops.
both sides should stop firing GRADS because they are very inaccurate
bro's a genius
Im American and I just watched this and it makes me sick my people need to help the Ukrainian people
Ukrainian soldiers are fighting for illegal communist borders, trying to expel or subjugate the local Russian population.
2:27 that dude looks like putin but chubby
9:10 this guy also looks like him
he is wearing a german police jacket 👮♂️😅
@@TrappistE ok
@@Socialistasshole i am not allowed to mention that, or what is wrong?
@@TrappistE ok
Adolf Putin
This shows the aspects of war that are often forgotten or dismissed.
Imagine being wounded or sick in a hospital, and you get hit with a rocket while laying in your hospital bed.
God bless ukraine 🇺🇦 the brave people fighting for freedom. Peace and family.
The saddest part is that people are dying just because of Putin's greed and power needs.
Glory to the heros
Do they have any reporting from the other side?
VICE, beautiful job reporting again, again, again ! Thumbs up !
Much love to Ukraine and their soldiers from Sweden! 🇸🇪 🇺🇦
Fight those rebels
4:50 - false translation (he didnt say DNR)
Vice, good reporting and kudos for being brave enough to send reporters out into the war zone. However, you have a slight slip up in translation at 4m 50s mark.
Instead of
"Every day they [the DNR] are firing into the houses"
the man said
"On a nearly daily basis, civilian homes are receiving direct fire"
Damn this army has came a long way!!!!
*Russia, You will pay for this -_-!*
Ukrainian soldiers are fighting for illegal communist borders, trying to expel or subjugate the local Russian population.
The people of Donbass and Crimea dont want to be part of "Ukraine", Let them!
People have the right of self determination.
Not everybody there! Stop eating your Russian propaganda ;)
Tell that to the Chechnyans.
wyvernlord23 Chechens live happily with russians and have a very pro russian leader. The "Chechen war" was a fight against ACTUAL religious terrorism not a national uprising. it was not supported by most tribal leaders checnya was dragged to war by Jihadists from around the glove
Subbyl You obviously dont know anyone from east Ukraine. I have friends and family there, and even in western Ukraine, like most Russian people. And they never saw themselves as ukranian, they never spoke ukranian, and dont want to be part of Ukraine especially now. but there were attempts to break away even in 1992.
So what you're saying is that there's a minority of violent extremists calling for separatism,forcing many peaceful citizens to live in fear of violence, forcing the state to intervene militarily, and generally making everything worse? Huh.
I enjoy the scenes with the soldiers more than the civilian ones, I like seeing their equipment and inventions on the fronts. I love this series overall. Keep up the good work Vice!
তোর মায়ের #হ্যাঁডাঁ!😝
Baba's heart is breaking. My family survive Stalinist purge, only for this. Terrible.
If russia allowed an internationally monitored vote in Donetsk, then they might be right but as long as they are denying any vote that is internationally monitored ukraine has every right to fight
2:50 true words!
8:10 he meant to put him to sleep not drown
He meant drown lol
@@dognoodle87 The verbage specifically means 'to put to sleep'.
God bless Ukraine 🇺🇦
VICE News Thank you for making this as always!
Glad this series is back.
"Ukraine above all else" kind of reminds me of "Deutschland über alles". Also, I love how the Ukrainian soldier states that Russia must be involved because it needs to distract its impoverished people. That's a dubious claim considering the fact that average salary in Russia is twice of that in Ukraine, and around 10% of Ukraine's own population actually work in Russia.
Finally there is something on here that shows what everyone I know there (in Ukraine) has been telling me. There is another vid on here somewhere that show how the people of Donetsk trying to have a vote to "make sure they stayed Ukrainian" but putin's hit men over ran all of the polling stations and threatened everyone with being shot if they went there and voted!!! If anyone knows where vid that is, can you tell me? (I've been trying to find it for weeks now)
What kills me is "how many people ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT to what is REALLY going on here!!!" (or they are just satanic and support it)
MOTOFIENDXXX
Yes the Russian propaganda trolls have been working overtime.
I know the vid you mean----I too have not seen it for ages. It is probably in the Ukrainian language.
Hope a Ukrainian will help her has the Cyrillic keyboard--- I do not or would go hunting.
Are you are Uke from the US?
I'm a Uke from Oz. I speak the language and can read Ukrainian and some Russian, but only understand 50% of that dog language.
Vinochok Uke Yea, and what kills me is "how many there are" (and how some even live in this country!!). These DEFINITELY "ARE" THE LAST DAYS!!! Thanks again Vin.
MOTOFIENDXXX
I can't believe TRAITORS, who live in the west, and support Putin.
Othere are just paid Russian trolls .
Who knows what has happened to Putin and if there will be a Russian civil war??
Last days for sure.
Thanks for making contact "buddy"
Vinochok Uke Yea, I'm trying to keep up on it and it looks like the people are starting to come around. Before all they knew was that their lives have been crap forever, but they didn't know that it was because of putin (because putin was strangling the Government in Ukraine and constantly making them jack even their own people over), but now that the DPR has shelled their towns over and over (and HAVE BEEN CAUGHT BY THE PEOPLE!!!), they are seeing that it has been Russia all along and are starting to stand against them.
All of the towns around Donetsk are starting to put up Ukrainian flags all over, signaling that they don't want to belong to the DPR or Russia, but that has costed them as well (because the DPR shells them for that- like what they did to Mariupol).
They're weaker now. So it's starting to look like they wont be able to carry on that much longer (putin did get himself into a spot here, because he can't really supply Crimea without that whole stretch of land from Russia to Crimea, at least not without it costing him more)
. ***MAYBE WE'LL JUST GO IN THERE AND SEE IF UKRAINE WANTS TO JOIN THE U.S., huh?*** (make them "The United States of Ukraine"?- like a 'sister country' to us?) HA!!! You bet. Till next time....
MOTOFIENDXXX
Yes---- pity US did not give weapons earlier and put boots in the ground in the early statges.
Sill waiting for Obama.
But, Russian will not stop, so it will escalate.
With the US as an allie haha--- Putin is afraid of that !!
Ukraine can be like another state of USA--- it will be safer or a sister country. Finally pull Ukraine up.
I love your enthusiasm to give those Moscovites shit.---- on Russian soil !! haha, see how they like their cities as rubble.
Many countries around would welcome it, like Georgia etc.
But Ukraine has the best looking women in Europe!! 2 years in a row, they were voted the most beautiful beating Sweden twice !!
Russian women did not make the top 10 !
So US boys-- there are rewards for being warriors.
I've been watching these Dispatch clips for a couple of days and it's terrifying to see how war affects soldiers on both sides so that they demonize and dehumanize each other to such extent. The hatred some of them feel is unbelievable. None of them are absolutely good or absolutely evil. War turns these men into something unrecognizable and extreme.
Oh yeah for sure. Ukrainians defending their country and russians seizing their neighbor - both are controversial 🤡
I love how vice news shows us both sides in this conflict, the ukranian and the american.
Do you people see how Vice turns into a propaganda tool?
IronicallyVague If you are honest about that than Im with you here, man. ))
***** wow RT is here, oh my! Im a huge fan!
Will you pray with me?
*****
RT!!! I love you!!!
***** pbs.twimg.com/media/B1yegKhIIAAK5xs.jpg:large
Germany stands behind Ukraine! I want to do everything I can to support the brave people of this Nation. Never back down! Never accept defeat! This is not Russian territory! To Victory!
Of course fascists support fascists
Good to hear we're helping these guys out. It's a tough time trying to fight a war when everyone hates you for stuff that's out of your control.
Украинцы воюют против украинцев,гражданская война,если бы Россия с ними воевала то война закончилась бы через 3 дня,клоуны))
Just as a reminder. The slogan they shout in the first sequence "Glory to Ukraine - Glory to heroes - Death to the enemies" is a slogan from the nationalist-fascist ukrainian "Bandera" army from the WW2.
Since the Maidanist used it on purpous (they knew very well where it came from and who used it, they use it because not although the fascists used it) it has become totally normal and accepted to shout this slogan without fearing consequences. Hell, it even get's promoted by the government and poltics.
And did I mention that soviet monuments get destroyed, while Bandera ones get erected?
Tells you enough about the current "proeuropean" political viewpoint of the ukrainian gouvernment, about the maidan "revolution" and this "army".
True to the motto:
We legalise fascism because we gained control with violence and now we will maintain our reign with violence (in eastern Ukraine)
All I can say: Go rebels and kick some ass
They deserve it
I have a few friends who donated their old uniforms to the Ukrainian Army. Glory to Ukraine, everyone who loves a peaceful Europe is hoping that you will prevail.
Sad stuff.
how about you show the DNR's side?!
This guy was actually mostly at DPR side before, while Simon was showing Ukrainian side.
Ukraine should become a part of Russia.
On what grounds?
russia will be history soon, just like your byzantine empire as you profile pic.
It would be nice if people had a civilised conversation on here instead of the regular flaming/swearing rants.
Russia is the size of the Canada and the US combined ..How much more land do you think they need?
TheHawkeye0725 75% of which isn't even populated by ethnic russians
I have some Russian friends, and I like Russia. But I also like NATO and Ukraine.
Slava Novorossii !!!
Да! читал комменты- думал ни одного разумного человека здесь не будет
T Kokshoorn huesossii
Слава Хуесосии
The Ukrainian army is done for. If the cauldron is closed at Debaltsevo trapping ~8,000 UAF troops, and given the recent advances of the rebels, this might happen in a matter of weeks or even days, you can pretty much say there's no more forces left in Ukraine capable of confronting the NAF.
Already, Poroshenko is sending young untrained men right into the heat of battle - it's as if he swapped his chocolate king career for a hobby in meat mincing. The NAF is holding higher ground, firstly, because its soldiers are acting out of a conviction that they either fight or they die, as opposed to UAF's 'either you fight or you lose a piece of territory and/or get prosecuted'. Secondly: because the NAF are already more battle-hardened, better trained and organized, as their entire collection of troops is constantly exposed to warfare, and has many experienced officers and veterans within its ranks. Lastly, I'm pretty sure Russia provides tactical support to the NAF, and tactics isn't Kiev's strong suit, even Washington aides are helpless here.
Wish the west would learn from history - don't cross the Russians, you're bound to regret it.
Btw, if you look at how Fascism originated in Italy, you could draw similarities to Ukraine's Maidan revolution.
Italian liberals and oligarchs funded the fascist party because they thought they could use fascists to protect their wealth and bring about 'positive' social and economic changes.
Maidan was instigated by Washington and his east European lackeys, but was largely financed by Ukraine's oligarchs - rivals to Yanukovich's clan, because they thought they could gain even more wealth and control by kicking Yanukovich and his friends out. And all of this was done while the crowds on the street were yelling "Hang a Musovite on a tree" because they wanted to become as socially and economically advanced as EU is.
The rebels are not in any way better off then the Ukranian army
David Dziekonski
rebels are better
dentheman T how/
David Dziekonski
they dont shell their own civilians purposefully. most of them are natives of this region. they are fighting for their families on their ground.
ukranian army consists from people who were mobilized from other ukraine regions.
they have come on foreign land to kill.
under the slogans of 'glory to ukraine, death to the enemies, ukraine is above all'. they are calling this 'ATO' (anti terrorist operation) using heavy weaponry against civilians violating constitution. you wont see that it is civilian war in ukrainian mass media. they showing this as war against russia. that it is russia is shelling donetsk and other cities. that there is no rebels only russian troops.
Слава Україні!!!
Героям слава!!!
FINALLLY A NEW DISPATCH!!! :) thank you!
8 years later, and all hell is finally loose
Support Russia from Turkey.
My congratulation! You are idiot.
I love how vice shiws all the battle positions. Future spy 😂
Ukraine actually thing they have a chance against russia hahaha that's like a rotwiller vs a chiwawa
You know its fucked up when they have high school news program journalist running in the Ukraine streets avoiding bullets
LOL 0:56 He wears a jacket of the German federal border patrol
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This guy at 2:50ish hit it on the head on why Russia is attacking the Ukraine.
The Ukrainians in this interview seem to be more upset about the Ukrainian government than they are about the "Russian-backed" "rebels."
That sounded terrifying in the hospital. Fucked up that civilians have to go through this.
lol even the dog is more badass than most people here
Respect to these brave hospital personnel. Can't understand how frightening this must be and at same time must do your job, getting people healthy.
Slava Ukraine
I love your videos of russian roulette in ukraine keep going guys
5:43 It must be horrible to live like this, it's an eye-opening to everyone who sees this.
0:10 can anyone identify the type of armoured vehicle in the background
@1 No 2 Yes thanks boss
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