Mormon Tells Durbin to Repent
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Watch as Jeff Durbin spoke with a Mormon outside of the Mesa temple. This clip is from the live-stream that was done on our Facebook page. To catch more of the live-streams, go and "like" our Facebook page ( / apologiaradio . In this video, the conversation touches on several subjects: the deity of Jesus Christ, how many gods there are, can man become a god, the Trinity, and more. We believe that these conversations are important and that they work very well as shareable online "tracts". They present excellent opportunities to learn and to share the Gospel. Share it with someone you love!
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In heaven am I going to see God sitting on the throne or am I going to see God and Jesus sitting on the throne?
Two or more independent witnesses are needed to testify of truth. This means God and Jesus are separate.
@@keithp8357 NO MAN has seen the Father at any time...and Jesus said "if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" so you will see Jesus, but seeing Jesus is seeing Jesus and the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells IN US and will represent us at the judgement seat. You will see Jesus, be it a good discussion or a bad one we will all stand before Him
If we love and obey Jesus, our life will be a light to others and draw them in to the father's presence, sharing the simplicity of the gospel. We do not need to share the way religion teaches. More people leave Christianity today because they have no foundation.
@@justincuvelier9569 We as Christians don't share "as religion teaches" by delivering the gospel....religion is of man, so no wonder its less effective but this notion that behaving a certain way manipulates more to come to your specific church, well isn't that the same as the fraud the Mormon church delivers the message?
I was a a Mormon for over 20 years. In 2019 I got saved after months and months of looking into biblical Christianity. These videos by Apologia helped immensely with some of the big questions I had when comparing Mormonism to Christianity.
I used to listen to all the Mormon evangelism videos at work, constantly.
My life has so much peace now that I have the true Jesus Christ, but it’s also gotten harder. I was married to a Mormon woman, and after I was saved, it resulted in divorce.
There’s a lot of tension with me and family, all because I chose Christ over Joseph.
I’ve lost many friends and family and opportunities because of this, and I don’t regret it at all.
Jesus is a far greater treasure than anything else this world has to offer.
Jeff, I want to thank you for these videos, and how God has used them and used you for his glory to share the gospel.
I pray that your guys’ evangelism increases and that more people will listen who are Mormon and that God works in their hearts.
God bless!!
God bless you!
Jesus said that he would divide people and families. The truth naturally divides. To be worthy of Jesus and eternal life one must side with God's truth even if it divides his own family.
John 10:27-29
@@danielmeakin All you need to do is repent of your idolatry and any other sins. The moment you do that God will forgive you of all your sins and give you his righteousness, which is the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:21
I John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Joseph Smith and every LDS prophet since him have preached a gospel of “do,” negating the gospel of “done” that Jesus preached and was. The LDS church is all about what it and its members must still do and be if they want to live with God (and be a god) one day.
The true church is all about proclaiming what Christ has DONE to make us right with God now for all eternity. It’s a certainty.
Jesus Christ canceled the record of debt that was held against us. All you need to do is accept Christ by faith. It isn't because of who you are and what you must and can do for God. It is because of who God is and what He did for you in sending Jesus to be the sacrificial offering for your sins. To be your substitute on the cross and to satisfy the demands of God's law that stands against you.
Christ has done the one work that was necessary to reconcile you to God. Christ has done the one act of righteousness that could bring justification and life to all men. All Christ is asking with open arms is for you to lay down your religiosity and works at the foot of the cross and allow Christ to take it.
Salvation is quite simple.
Luke 18 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt:
10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’
13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’
14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
God bless you.
What's sad is that you left a false religion to join another one. Jeff is a false teacher. We're not saved by repenting of all sins and doing any other sacrifices, we're saved by faith alone in what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross. Being God and the perfectly sinless lamb, he paid for all our sins by pouring his precious blood on the cross and resurected three days later for our justification. You believe it, you're saved, you don't believe it or mock it, you perish.
@@gethsemane-777 I'm not sure I follow. Repentance is directing all our faith to Christ instead of to other objects, yes? I'm not trying to follow Jeff although I've found his videos helpful as an ex-mormon; I read Isaiah 44 yesterday as he recommended to a Mormon on one of these and God spoke to me through those verses like I haven't heard him speak to me for many years. Honestly the last time I felt that way was when I read the Book of Mormon as a boy. My understanding now though is those feelings were from a false God because Mormon doctrine contradicts God's Word in the Bible and therefor what I felt was not from God but was of the flesh. The feelings I had yesterday are of God because they were in response to and align with his written Word whereas the feelings I had as a boy were in response to false teachings from a false prophet and contradict His Word and must be a pseudo-spiritual experience derived from the flesh.
We can be sanctified though through our faith in Christ and a separation from sin can occur if it is the will of God, yes?
@@jlewis8145 Thank you for your response. I am in a better place today I believe God is leading me from darkness. I love the parable you shared from Luke I will meditate on it more and pray for mercy.
As a Christian I just learned so much about my own religion watching this. Good stuff
Mormonism is dangerous
Christianity is not a religion, it’s a heart change, but ultimately a relationship with God. Just thought I’d clear that up
@@owenwilliams4711 From Google "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."
I'm pretty sure Christianity qualifies.
@@jaihummel5057 yeah no it doesn’t say that at all. What google does say is “the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices”.
Christiany.... is not a religion my friend, although it is technically considered as one.
He’s running in circles but you can tell it’s because he’s afraid of everything he’s been taught in his life being wrong. Praying the Holy Spirit will convict him and he’ll be saved.
Yes that’s what we should do but it’s sad that he been believing in that Satanic Polygamous God name Elohim and that False Jesus known as The Mormon Jesus who is a False Christ.
Or maybe he's not wrong but has the same level of conviction in his faith as the pastor but isn't as skilled in debate or as well versed in scripture. Humble yourself.
@@malignantmorningstar6289 he's definitely just wrong
@@malignantmorningstar6289 Certainly he has the same level of conviction and his faith and that’s understandable but so does every single person on this planet And speaking of Faith based religions This really isn’t a matter of faith this is a matter of context The Mormon teaching does not line up with the biblical world Christian view I think that was kind of the main point of this conversation There’s nothing wrong with people having their own faith But In this conversation we’re talking about theology Scripture history And the identity and persons of God
@@malignantmorningstar6289 So it's "not humble" to say that a man who is wrong is wrong? Are you serious? You are being lukewarm and that is not good. You need to read Revelation 3:15
I greave for this man, because you can tell in his heart he wanted the truth that he was hearing to be wrong but somewhere deep inside he know it was right. May God open his eyes and deliver him from those beliefs💙
If GOD did open his eyes, it will not be to the trinity - which is quite silly if you think about it, as this guy spent the bulk of his time preaching a doctrine and message that is completely unlike the doctrine and teachings of Christ - oh the irony
@@smalltimer4370Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith will receive what he deserves for trying to deceive and lead others away from the true Christ
@@smalltimer4370 The Bible from start to finish points to the trinity. You might refuse to believe that fact but that is truth. I challenge you to ask him for his truth and I can guarantee that you’ll fine it in the trinity. May God guide you and protect you always. God bless you.
@@Jayb2428
The Bible does not point the trinity - what a silly thing to say - the Bible is complete and explicit, in-that there is only one source alone and by Himself of whom and to whom are all things - that is the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ alone.
Of this we are assured, as Jesus Christ Himself testified it.
And so while the people of this world keep looking for ways to embellish the plain truth of scripture with lies, they do so at the expense of Jesus' teachings and commandments, and all because a group of degenerate men said so - not Jesus, or any approved prophet, but very, very clearly, a group of degenerate men having no place whatsoever in the written truth of scripture.
And so, in response to your challenge I would answer in truth - that I have pleaded GOD for the truth, and that His Holy Spirit revealed it, as it was revealed to Jesus Christ - the truth of GOD without the addition or removal of anything.
That is what GOD's servant and follower of Christ is now testifying to - the truth revealed by GOD, against the lies of men.
That is why Jesus Christ did not worship, teach or preach a triune god at any point in His ministry.
That is also why, there is not one single mention of anyone worshipping such a god in all of Bible history.
That is also why there are no declarations or revelations of such a god(triune) in all Bible history.
And finally, that is why there is no such god taught or revealed in the doctrine of godliness established by Jesus Christ on earth.
True followers of Christ will worship, teach and preach as Jesus did on earth - and we all know without a doubt, that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god in His ministry - no one, in all of Bible history did so in-fact.
- you have been deceived friend, repent and beg the one true GOD and Father of Jesus Christ for mercy, so that your eyes may be opened, as others were opened before you. Repent so that you may worship in truth as our Lord Jesus Christ worshipped in truth. Repent so that you may testify to the truth as He testified to the truth - the time to stop carrying-out Satan's lies is now! - amen
I love this Christian preacher. Lord protect him.
Amen!
Amen
you should watch a video exposing this preacher as a heathen.
@@iconacy lol please. This man has not misquoted or misused scripture, youve clearly never listened to him preach the gospel nor do you know the gospel to turn around and say this man is a heathen please give me an example of where and how he has preached or given false deceptive gospels to anyone.
He will be fine lol
I was born into an LDS family, baptized into that faith. I've been inactive for almost 8 years now. But part of me has struggled with missing going to their church. I've been going to Christian churches. I've watched a few other pastors talk about these specific things, but never heard the things you said in this video. I've been praying for God to reveal His truth to me. I only want His truth, while following scripture. Then I watched this, while washing dishes. I'm a mom of 6 kids btw. I found myself overwhelmed, in tears. I feel like I've been starved of the truth my entire life. While being fed a delicious poison, that lulled me to sleep, leaving my mind and heart to find comfort in their lies. God's truth isn't easy or comfortable to know... what the Mormon religion leans on is giving comforting answers to things that don't feel good. Like being sealed in temples to your family for time and eternity. Like knowing you'll see them again in Heaven. I'm grieving heavily while I let go of those beliefs. But cannot argue with the things you said and the scriptures you shared. I will indeed be wrestling with God, on my face, as I accept Him, and His perfect word. Thank you for doing this work, Thank you God for answering me.
_Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: _*_"I am Yahweh, who makes all things_*_ who _*_alone_*_ stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth _*_by myself_* - Isaiah 44.24
Behold the written truth!
With that said, the truth is revealed to those whose hearts are open to receive it.
_In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight"_ - Luke 10.21
_Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures_ - Luke 24.45
_The things which you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit the same to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also... 15Give diligence to present yourself approved by God, a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed, properly handling the Word of Truth_ - 2 Tim 2.12, 15
Whereas Jesus warned of the corruption of the true doctrine following His departure;
_For I know that after my departure, vicious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Men will arise from among your own selves, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them_ - Acts 20.29-30
_But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, 2through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron_ - 1 Tim 4.1-2
For which we are warned and guided to guard ourselves;
_Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world_ - 1 John 4.1
And that is where false doctrines fit-in;
_For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts_ - 2 Tim 4.3
As it is obvious that many religious institutions have fallen-away from the true doctrine of godliness, it is therefore our duty to heed Jesus' warnings and council;
_But false prophets also arose among the people, as false teachers will also be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. 2Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. 3In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber_ - 2 Peter 1.1-3
_not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God_ - 2 Thes 2.2-4
And who is it that loves lies instead of the truth?
_Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie; 12that they all might be judged who didn't believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness_ - 2 Thes 2.11
_But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his_ - Ro 8.9
_You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 8'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men'"_ - Matthew 15.7-9
Having said all that, how do we identify true followers of Christ from the false ones?
The answer is simple, in-that we look to those who are actually following in Jesus' footsteps, as-in, worshiping and preaching as Jesus did. And we all know Jesus did not worship nor preach a triune god at any point in His ministry - behold the true doctrine of Christ!
Stay strong and keep petitioning GOD for enlightenment brother!
If your family members love Jesus and turn to Him in repentance for their sins, you will see them again in Heaven. If they are sincere in wanting to believe in the one true God, they just need to be shown the contradictions between what the LDS church teaches and what the Bible actually says. I left the Greek Orthodox church when I began to see things in the church's teachings that didn't line up with scripture. So I completely understand what you're going through. It can be gut wrenching. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that God will carry you through and provide what you need. He is faithful. It took almost 30 years for my mom to come to Jesus. I never thought I'd see it. You'll be OK.
Amen..merry Christmas n happy new year...
Hi, Padilla. I feel your struggle and your pain. Please read my post above (the long one). I believe it will help you. God bless. Alan
This is one of the best testimonies I’ve read. “Being fed a delicious poison” shows a wise assessment of your situation and provides such sincere evidence of a contrite heart. What a gift it is to be comforted by the true God of creation.
I am an ExMormon and so proud to be a Follower of Jesus, a work in progress, and someone who loves the Word of God !!! Thank you Jeff Durbin for further inspiring me to memorize more scripture. Keep fighting the Good Fight !!!
I'm sorry to tell u man..
you just got out from a hole nd fell in an other one
Happy for you
Should leave it all together.
I am a current "Mormon" and proud to be a follower of Jesus as well.
@@swarlesbarkely2449 When Mormons refer to Jesus Christ, they are referring to a Mormon jesus who is the brother of Satan and they are two of many sons and daughters of a Mormon polygamist exalted man god, a Mormon so-called heavenly father, who himself is one of a myriad of Mormon polygamist exalted men god father, grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc., according to Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, Brigham Young, 2nd Mormon false prophet.
Jesus of the Bible and Christians is not the jesus of the Mormon Church, nor a son of a Mormon exalted man, nor the brother of Satan.
As it is written, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)”
What I see is a man who grew up in the Mormon church in Utah for the first time has a competent, well studied biblical teacher be able to articulate what the Bible says. He instantly falls back and hides behind “same Jesus. I reject what you say.” Mainly because it upends his entire identity, his families culture, and is terrifying to him. Well done Jeff.
Today is the first time I listened to Jeff and I am amazed how he communicated to this Mormon, in love and with total knowledge of who God is. I am an ex Mormon and I am so glad this man cares for the lost.
Do you care that he can not describe the image of God, except to repeat that god is a spirit and lead you to your own imagination of what he is, specially if you like it? Imagine Adam describing to his children God, the same way you are not able to describe him, and then telling them, buti walked with him and he spoke with me and your mom and i could hear him and see him that is why we even hid ourselves from him, but he found us and made us clothes also and tolds us many things. but now he is a spirit and you can not see him. If you are an ex-mormon just remember, the great loss of an ex-mormon is not the blessings but the light of the Holy Ghost teaching you how to come back to Heavenly Father. That is why you are so impressed with simple rationalizations of the bible.
God is not only a spirit ,first God is a person ho have a Holly Spirit .The Holly Spirit is not a person ,is the power of God to be prezent în all dimension !
@@bebyfabry6831 How much of the bible have you read in order for you to declare such stupidity.3 pages, 24 scriptures? read it all and study it on your own. And stop comparing God to your favorite fantasy books.
@@alfredomoreno301 What fantasy books are you talking about? Don't be stupid ,Bible have 1223 pages end i read all the Bible.Who are you to says what is right or rong about my perspective of God ,end what religious tribe are are you reprezent ?
Nobody knows fully who God is. Our minds cannot comprehend fully what he is
it's not that the truth is hard to receive but the lies are hard to let go of
Nikao,
In this case I couldn't agree with that.
I'd say the reason so many members don't listen to Jeff and other apologetics is the fact they don't act alike Christ when talking, Jeff and others alike him are so argumentative that even if members believe him, they also believe he's a hypocrite because he doesn't preach like Christ.
Thinking to themselves, "even if The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is false, Jeff's church must be more false because they say they follow Christ, so their doctrine must be to argue and be rude. That can't be the doctrine of Christ, I mustn't follow Jeff".
He's got to be more Christ like.
@@danielmoore4024 I know what mean. I believe calvinist misrepresent who God is and the word of God who is Christ. but my comment was in general to everything in life. and yes I believe we are called to be a witness and not obnoxious
Right? Shows exactly what happens when your raised in whatever it is. It moulds the brain and spirit, only Christ can penetrate a man's heart. Thank you Jeff for being a conduit for Christ.
@@danielmoore4024 What do you consider to be "Christ like" then? He is loving the other human while pointing out the errors in their ways (like Christ). Jesus was not "tolerant" in the way the world is.
@@jesussaves6625
Love thy neighbor as thyself.
Disrespecting agency, a gift from God is not love, it's plain and clear they've made their choice, respect their rights to choose for themselves as Christ allowed the Pharisees to choose for themselves.
Does Jeff want his human rights to choose for himself? Surely.
Since he loves himself enough to allow himself his right to choose he should love others to have their rights to choose.
He obviously doesn't allow others their right to disagree meaning he does not love his neighbours as himself.
As a former, devout, true believing, temple attending, mormon of 48 years, what you are doing, ie planting seeds and asking thought provoking questions, is good!
It is the seeds planted, and the questions that got me searching the bible to back up my beliefs that helped lead me to see it wasn't there, and ultimately to recognize that religion was not the truth.
@April G just ask them for a copy of the Book of Mormon and they will give you one for free. Then sit down and read it with an inquiring and open mind, after which you should pray with sincerity of heart and ask Heavenly Father if it is a true book.
God bless.
@April G Reading the Holy Bible will not verify if the Book of Mormon is true or not, altho there are parts in the BoM that support the Bible and visa versa. It's best to read the BoM then pray about it...ask God if it's True scripture.
@@yunginspirit3162 - That's assuming on your part that the Book of Mormon is a greater authority than the Bible. The Bible does not state/teach of other gods like the LDS do, including the possibility of becoming a "god". In other words, Mormons find the Bible false, if you are being intellectually honest. With all due respect, reading the Bible will verify the Book of Mormon as false. As the conversation in this video portrays, Isaiah 43 and John 1 fundamentally torpedo the crucial question of who Jesus was/is according to LDS teachings. Additionally, there is no teaching in the Bible linking Lucifer to Christ as "brothers".
@@machtnichtsseimann While many LDS people believe that because of the many translations that the bible had to go through to get to our language it has lost some of the true meaning that were intended when it was written, we still believe in the Bible and that it is a true text from God. An easy way to point out that the bible can be wrong is when the Pharaoh of Egypt is said to have God hardening his heart when this could never be possible. God can't take away the agency of any human, Pharaoh hardens his own heart against the words of Moses. On the other hand though, the bible does verify the BoM, one way that we use is 2 Corinthians 13:1, paul states that "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" proving that when God is teaching something important he sends another source to confirm it. If i think of any other verses in the bible I will reply these were just some thoughts that I had immediately after reading your comment.
@@machtnichtsseimann I thought of Ezekiel 37 where it talks about the joining of one stick and another stick, stick meaning written tablet or some form of writing. the joining of the tribe of Judah and joseph or ephraim. Another one is in John 10 Jesus talks about being a good shepherd that he will visit his other sheep that are not in this fold and I would put a lot of money on the fact that there would be documenting of Jesus Christ visiting his other sheep.
I've never watched a conversation between a Christian and a Mormon before. I'm shocked at how deeply ingrained this deception is. The devil is a liar!! Jeff, God bless you for your work. He's given you great wisdom in the scriptures, and you've inspired to study my Bible with purpose! I will pray for this gentleman!❤
There is no wisdom in the trinity - it is a false teaching and a lie
I am so impressed with this man. I was born and raised in the Mormon church, but I was finally able to get out and come to true Christianity. If someone had spoken to me like this man when I was all in, I would have done my best to defend Mormonism, but I would have been deeply shaken. I would have taken his points and his questions to Mormon leaders and asked them what this was all about. I would have done a lot of reading, I would have tried to hold my world view together, but in time it would have crumbled. So yes, please do talk and testify to Mormons! We need help to get out! And it may seem like a thankless job, and it may seem like you are getting no where, but I promise, it makes a huge impression. God bless this ministry!
you a christian??? you sure dont act like in fact you are quite far from it the way bash the mormons you Hypocrite!!
Jesus was radical.
Pray let my spirit aid ye.
stan price No one here has bashed Mormonism. I pray you will listen to this and think on it.
@@getdownto311 When challenged with the truth you and people like you call bashing what is challenging what one believes is true. Maybe I'm wrong on your point. Both guys are presenting their understanding of truth. One uses his own truth the other is just quoting passages of scripture. That is one of the most loving things a Christian can do.
The way God used this man to speak truth is amazing. I pray God gives me the same boldness and calmness to speak his word to others as well.
Triston Aguirre it gets better with time age and experience. When I first got saved I came out like a gang buster! Lots of Truth and short on love and gentleness. I even had to take a good break (with approval from the Lord) now it’s more balanced yet I still tend to get over aroused but that has more to do with my own difficulty with sensory regulation. I’m like this even if I’m talking about other subjects non-related to the Word. I think too many years drinking caffeine really messed up my nerves. I feel I have limitations now as far as how much I’m angle to interact before I get very depleted and drained.
Keep seeking God He will give you what u need according His calling for u
Way to go bro Triston. John
Amen
Me too
I've noticed our Mormon friends are often stuck on "interpretation". Even when the word is clear as day.
Truth_is_the_new_hate,
Not all of us are stuck with the excuse interpretation, most members of all religions I see have a script of scriptures in their mind without their own reasoning to believe what they say, they just say what they were told. As an example, those who believe God is a spirit automatically turn to John 4:24 because that's what they were taught, when the missionaries want to talk about faith they automatically turn to Alma 32 because that's what they were taught.
I agree with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because of many patterns and symbolism I see in the Bible, not because of a list of scriptures in a textbook.
I agree Christ, Satan and we are all literal spirit brothers and sisters through Revelation 12, Abraham sacrificing Issac, symbolism between the law of Moses and Jesus Christ, 3 Nephi and the name "The Lamb of God".
I've questioned people on biblical scriptures, they share their answers, I then tell them the answer they gave me and they refuse to believe it. Jeff confessed premortal life is biblical then when I asked did he just say that he denied saying it.
Yep, the word is clear as day. They are 3 seperate beings one in purpose. Thanks for admitting it. But do explain how 1 person can talk to himself without a mental illness. Jeff can't even answer it, but tries to talk his way around it.
@@jasonbelt8954 all thinking is talking to ourselves, often silently and sometimes out loud. If you think, then you talk to yourself. It is natural. People just try to hide it when other people are around so as not to appear crazy. Everybody thinks and speaks out loud at times throughout the day their own thoughts.
@@danielmoore4024 so much be clear, are you saying that the literal plain text of scripture isn't as important as symbolism? Or is it that the text does not matter at all? And then what symbolism are you seeing that supercedes the scriptures that say there is only one God?
@@jasonbelt8954 it says there is only one God over, and over, and over, and over again.
As a Mormon questioning my faith and being brought into the light by God through His followers, I just want to say it is worth it. You are reaching people and bringing them into the fold. And for that I thank you. I have been desiring to have a relationship with God but was having a hard time in the LDS faith. Now, reading the Bible, I feel like I KNOW God
Jesus was no trinitarian
True followers of Christ, will follow in Jesus' footsteps.
That is to say, to worship, teach and preach as Jesus did.
And we all know without a doubt that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god. In fact, we can say without a doubt that there is not one single person in all of Bible history who did such a thing.
John 10:27-29
God bless you!
true followers of Christ believe that He is God in the flesh Who redeems us through His work of righteousness on the cross on our behalf because we do not have the power to save ourselves from God's wrath. God Himself paid the price. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Himself said He is the great I AM, He is the Alpha and Omega, and that because they saw Him, they saw the Father, because they are ONE.
@@masteringfibromyalgia
Who told you that followers of Christ believe that Jesus is GOD in the flesh?
Or that it was GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Spirit who payed the price?
And finally, from where has the expression 'the great I AM' come from?
That being said, it would appear that your testimony consists of made-up terms and definitions, rather than the written truth of GOD.
What fold?
40 yrs Mormon, cast out for my falling and sinning. Unable to work my sins off so I’ve turned to searching for the true Jesus and for love and forgiveness. God bless you Jeff for spreading truth.
Kurt... you are loved by Jesus BEYOND MEASURE... receive...
Do you remember what it was that convinced you that LDS is false?
Or, are you simply trying to find a way to receive "forgiveness" without having to do all it takes (not to say you haven't tried). Of course it's difficult, but the solution isn't to find an "easier" way, especially if the easier way doesn't result in complete repentance nor forgiveness. Christ is willing to forgive all. All it takes is your complete heart. It's not about the "work" you have to do. Work simply represents where your heart truly is. If you say, "Lord, I give my heart completely to you... on the following terms..." Then where is your heart, truly? Don't give up.
@@Leif208are you yelling him to not give up on Lds
@@Leif208 Dude, Mormonism is an apostasy. There is no other God. There is no way to work off your sin. The Bible says the wages of sin is death so the only way you can pay for your own sin is to die and be judged and go to Hell. But Jesus, knowing we could not pay for our sins, died in our stead so that we could be redeemed in the eyes of the Father, through the sacrifice of the Son. None of the Mormon prophets actually prophesied anything that came true. In fact, as recent as the year 2000 a Mormon sect prophesied that Jesus was returning that same year. He did not and many Mormons left the church because of this. There is no amount of work you can do to pay off the debt of sin. You will just end up in Hell, blinking, surprised that you ended up there. None of the Mormons even know if they are saved. That's because they are not. There is a good reason why they do not allow them to accept Christian ideals or go to Christian churches or to marry Christians. It's because the Devil does not want them to be saved. He knows that the true Gospel of Jesus Christ has the power to save and his goal is to bring you to damnation. It's strange that Joseph Smith called us apostates despite the Scriptures being over 4000 years old and nowhere in the scriptures does it say that we will become gods.
The amount of patience Pastor Jeff has for this man is absolutely remarkable.
What patience? They are having a calm adult conversation. Just because people don't agree on something, doesn't mean they are "fighting" and one has patience while the other doesn't.
@@incognitovortex5796 if someone plainly “rejects” because they don’t agree with something by their subjective opinion, then you have to have patience because they actually don’t want to listen. He clearly just rejected what Bible says.
@@Viiola24 I think you watched a different video. He rejected someone's interpretation of the Bible, not the Bible. It's not the same thing.
The amount of patience pastor Jeff has with this man is absolutely remarkable.😊
Well youre an impacient person full of judgement and anger twards youre fellow man
Jeff is absolutely unflappable. His knowledge is so deep, so clear and so patient, he’s almost unbelievable....
Mike Walsh lol
Jeff rejected his points because they weren’t scripturally accurate. The Mormon is trying to find ways around listening to the word of God. He’s only taking pieces of the scripture as his truth and rejecting other clearly defined verses. Dancing around the facts.😣
All glory to God! 🙌
Not just almost
@@antbones3618 facts biased off one mans interpretation. one persons facts is another persons hearsay.
I grieve for this Mormon & is really crying for help & thats the beginning of CONVICTION
THANK YOU FATHER GOD.
HALLELUJAH!
We are Mormons, we are Saints, Jesus Christ doesn't want us to use the the name Mormon, you don't have to weep over us a Latter-day Saints we are learning the ways of the Lord not to raise the world not our ways or the ways of the world because our Lord's ways are not our ways and our ways are not his ways truth will always be truth we are his we are his Saints we are his people under his name we do everything by his name under his name for his name and yes I can testify in his name Jesus Christ...
Meant to say that we are not Mormon
I lost my husband a week ago and I want u to know you have really ministered to my heart!
Praying for you and love you!
God bless Always
Jeffrey I am so sorry about your loss.
Ty so much.Rich loved the Lord and I'm comforted in knowing he is where he wanted to be!
God bless you Always, Betty
@@jeffrey63031 I am sorry for your loss Betty. It must be a great comfort knowing he loved the Lord.
jeffrey63031 have you repent?
I like that mormon, my heart aches for him. He is such a respectful nice man. I pray he learns the truth about Jesus.
It's good to pray for people - though it's vital that we pray for the right things in such cases.
ie, the trinity is not truth of God, and should therefore never be prayed for.
if anything we should pray for the truth of God - no some doctrine invented by a bunch of corrupt men
@@smalltimer4370 the Triune nature of God is not a creation of man, but a revelation from God in the Bible. You need to read up on scripture and not let your human perception get in the way. There's no way to have a decent discussion on this here but why don't you check out more videos from this pastor or other resources on the web to find out the truth because the denial of God's nature is a serious offense
@@stephenfloyd3522 "revelation of God in the Bible" - so where in the Bible does it say that the Trinity is doctrine? Did you know there were no trinitarian early Christians before the Trinity was created? The contentious Council of Nicaea was made up of men, not apostles or prophets of old. Saint Nicholas even punched the main leader of the majority of Christians that opposed the Trinity. This was done over 300 years after Christ died and was put together by the pagan Constantine for political purposes. Before the Trinity, pagans had a god(s) that were triune.
@@aluf2567 Just like Jeff was saying, Colossians 1:15-17, were Christ created all things. Paul believed in the trinity and he wrote around AD 62.
@Islayman Jesus is the Way, Truth, and Life.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Ben Dover
So is taking a big dump !! Yes it’s the truth and life
That is exactly what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches. All are being invited to come unto Christ and receive the fullness his gospel.
Charles Brown actually u guys teach good works get u salvation
@I don’t know A username Actually we don't. You guys misconstrue the doctrines that we teach. Nothing is done without the grace of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Nothing is possible without his grace. Jeff Durbin, and the likes teach that God created us out of nothing (exnihilo) because he was bored and needed to be worshipped and that we are simply inferior creatures somewhat like robots, and pawns with an artificially infused intelligence that some how constitutes free will.
We teach that God created the world because he loved us as his literal children before we came to earth and that through worshipping and obeying God we receive blessings including eternal salvation.
The orthodox folks such as Jeff Durbin and like you must be, teach that more people seem to be headed to hell than to heaven and yet you don't know what either one is really is. You just teach that hell is as bad as it can get and heaven is as good as it can get. You beleive heaven is a static place with no growth and God's glory is limited. We believe it is a dynamic place with a continued increase that glorifies God forever.
We teach that God desires to save all of his children and does this through the grace of Jesus Christ. Only the sons of perdition who will full knowledge rejected Jesus will go to a literal "hell". You apparently think the saving power of Jesus is not sufficient to save the majority of the Father's children.
@@charlesbrown1245 Not so. LDS places Joe Smith ahead of Jesus. The name is there only to prostitute.
I was THAT guy. Just watching this made me feel an overwhelming sense of empathy for this man. I was in his exact shoes and the problem in his position is that he KNOWS he’s wrong but he’s built his entire life on a lie. I did too. Who is willing to truly give up EVERYTHING to follow the God of the Bible Jesus Christ. Very few.
Jeff, this was a master class in how to love a Mormon
9:11
Morman : I reject your interpretation of the text.
Christian: I just quoted it.
Why do you rejected the Bible? You can not become God's! Of your own planet. Repent or burn in hell
Loved that part!
David Fuller buddy of mine the other day told me I sounded like a Pharisee when I was speaking so cold about the lost. I’m not saying you are. But. In first peter when it says always be ready to give a reason for hope that is within you. It says to sanctify Christ in your heart. Win the soul not the argument. Rome wasn’t built in a day and sometimes god calls for years.
grizzlytomahawk so you’re that guy👌
@@davidfuller4320 not sure that's really going to win anyone until/unless you show their follies as well give some evidence of what is correct....many of them are brainwashed and lost in deception so they need a guide to find the truth again and or for the 1st time.
This Paster really knows the BIBLE i love learning from him.
He's a fraud - most of his arguments have been proven to be bunk, yet he continues to mislead others because he has no regard for the truth of God
Smalltimer no he has Jesus
@@smalltimer4370 can you please provide sources for your stance here?
Does this really go on for an hour plus? Are they really arguing over where Jesus was born?
In some cases, in these type of videos you could easily have a Presbyterian VS a Lutheran VS a Baptist. Now, I'm not advocating Mormonism here but this idea of everyone having the EXACT same interpretation of minor points, dates of birth, pre-trib, post-trib etc. is not only not realistic, its dissention, its causing fractions etc
Most importantly, these knowledge battles are unlikely to win ANY converts. It becomes nothing more than a debate with the power of human effort alone. This should concern us all
Listening to these two reminds me of the trump, biden debate!
The third wheel (Blake)has great patience. Slow to speak, and quick to listen. God bless him, and all three of them.
Jeff is so patient and kind 🥹 I hope that this man came to know the truth of Christ
This is the Navy Seal of all Preachers...May God bless and protect him for spreading the CORRECT word! What incredible knowledge of the bible and ability to rip the counter arguments apart. God bless you Jeff Durbin!
The trinity is not of the Bible however - ie, Jesus did not worship or teach of a triune god.
@@SmalltimR you obviously haven’t read scripture where it clearly says “he fell to there knees and started worshiping him” I’m sorry but I feel like a lot of people aren’t chasing truth they’re just focus on winning the argument or being others away from the truth
@@ramelbrooks2316
How do people go from worshiping Jesus to an imaginary god that is nowhere taught, defined, worshiped or preached anywhere in Bible history?
Those who worship a god other than the GOD of Jesus Christ do so as Apostates of Christ.
The trinity is a destructive heresy invented 350 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. It is a lie and a product of the devil, intended to deceive would-be Christians into becoming liars by spreading false teachings.
Satan has the entire world under his influence. He doesn't care about you or anyone else.
I'm an ex JW so I listen to this spiritual debate objectively as I had to study from scratch after being decieved and I can only agree with Jeff
Truth Be Known praise the lord your eyes and heart opened
@@jodylee7596 hey, i need help reaching a Jehovah's witness. They seem to be set in their ways...Any tips? Thank you
@@anitahscorner
Jesus is Jehovah is Salvation... that is what Jesus name means... hence He is the God whose name is Jehovah is Salvation. Jehovah does not share His name with other gods.
Remember YHWH means I Shall Prove to Be Whom I Shall Prove to Be (I Am who I Am). Jesus Proves to Be Salvation.
I hope that helps.
You are still deceived. Just traded one cult for another.
@@quemaspana what cult is that?
I was an active, endowed single Mormon for 34 years. It took me that long for the many seeds of truth planted in me to take root. I know know Christ as my Savior. Jesus will always be enough.
My man is So BLESSED. It’s unbelievable on how fast his mind processes answers and keeps God as the true vine. It’s unbelievable on how calm and patient he is. Yet he listens, and fired back with the truth. The word is sharp and it’s cutting through.
God bless you
The Grace of God
He's calm and patient because he's filled with the spirit of Christ!🙏
Tammy Rogne is that different than the spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit?
@@jlar1984 No.
Any idiot can debate a STREET DRUNK.
Your ability to recall and quote scripture is amazing, and your respectful approach is impressive also Jeff
listen, listen, linda, linda, listen linda, linda listen
So that's what I was thinking!! Hahaha
Lol
hahahaaha......except....Linda didnt want to listen this time lol.....good one man!! :-)
He sounds jus like him lol
Lol that’s all I kept thinking about lol
Jeff's recall of scripture is convicting. As Christians, we should aspire to this level of scriptural conversation. We have such privilege to have unbridled access God's Word.
I am going to go read my bible :-) :-)
chrisj1011 🤣 I know right
chrisj1011 amen
A Font Please stop lying to yourself
I like the chance for a good opposition, it gives a chance to grow and become stronger. This is a good video.
I'm going to to go read my Harry Potter book.:-). It makes more sense...
Jeff Dubin is a dang genius!! Keep preaching the gospel, brother!!!
Deborah Clark not a genius.its power of God
Be an argumentative, and prideful man is who you see Christ as?
Why would I trust someone who doesn't follow Christ? Apologetics, arguing, debating is the stupidest way to make people believe you know Christ.
“It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.”😔Please Pray for the Mormons, they are good people, just lost.🙏♥️ Thank you for the work you do Jeff! All glory to God! God is so good! 🙏♥️ Praise Jesus!
I pray for such patience that Jeff has here, because this Mormon sounds exactly like my own dad and it’s painfully heartbreaking and downright frustrating.
Patience maybe a virtue, though not always bound to good works - ie, the devil is patient, though clearly not inclined to good works
With that said, I'd urge that you consider the truth of GOD with vigilance - Jesus did not worship a triune GOD, and our salvation was never rooted in such things in the gospel...
@@Charles.Wright
First you insult me, then proceed to agree with everything that I have said - Jesus never did this
I was in this customers house last week and asked him about a puzzle on a table that was temple square in utah. He asked if I knew anything about the temple and I said "it looks like a mormon temple from utah" and he asked if I followed that church, my response was "no Im christian" and his response was "we're christian too" not knowing any of the differences I didnt press the issue. He was probably in his 70s
@@OCDlosp
Many people do not know what being a Christian actually means according to the Bible - though the worst thing a Christian could ever do, is argue with someone else on whether they are Christian or not...
Jessaka Powers,
If you want to make becoming more alike the Saviour, improve Christ's attributes, increase your awareness.
Once you provide enough space to observe your mind it becomes easier to control our thoughts and feelings, we become better at recognising where our thoughts will lead us.
Let us pray fervently that the Lord would save this young man, if it is His will.
Steven, please provide evidence for you claims.
Steven Eri Evidence
Joel well said. Amen.
Thanks for the question Jesse,
The Mormon needs to be saved. I, as well as all other Christians, use the word of God to discern who is saved or not.
If you are not saved, then you need to be saved.
Salvation comes by Grace through faith in Christ alone, we know this thanks to the bible, and all the glory goes to God, because He is the one doing the saving.
Repent and believe in God. Don't let your sins keep a grip on your life. Confess Jesus as Lord and fight the good fight.
"Saved", elaborate please. I've always been fascinated about what we're meant to be being saved from, what with an omnipotent god n'all. Omnipotent being the operative word. What kind of being creates a universe with everything needed to support life, and everything in it. He knows everyones thoughts, he knows everything, he is all powerful, right?. So why do you want to save us from him, because the god you worship, according to your worldview caused everything. Why not tell him go fuck himself for being a hypocrite, child murdering, bigoted fuck face who wouldn't even know how to spell morality, let alone create it. Wake up people, Norway and Japan have no religion and they're the best countries in the world, most of Europe were I live have abandoned religion too, like we did the tooth fairy and Santa, same principles apply. I know it's lucrative for some to stay religious, but for the people who believe just because that seems the right thing to do, please rethink it through.
😂 Durbin: “You need to hang out a lot in John 1... Like A LOT.” 😂 Diesel Durbin does it again 💯
Is there a timestamp for that?
I did that with a jw's. We talked about John 1:1c.
And it didn't take a lot. We just got to learn how to presented it to them.
They believe the word *[A]* should be in john 1:1c. As: "and the Word was [A] God."
We just have to be knowledgeable enough to show that it cannot be there.
@@chatnoir8524 it's at 32:20
As an Exmormon now Christian, this is the BEST interaction between the two different religions I’ve ever seen.
Wow. Praying over this guy. May God bless him for his patience as Jeff challenged him with truth. May God open his eyes. Remove the blinders. Redirect his passion from his own covenants to God and His glory. MAJOR PROPS.
I admire the work of the Holy Spirit within you, Jeff.
Its amazing and his patience with people is wao
Amen
We love mormons , this is why we speak to you!!! Know that we truly care!!!
If you where to tell Jeff any of your belief even if you're a Christian he would tell you what he understands from all his studying and that's what he stands for, also thats why there is many religions. Faith is the very foundation, interpretations are many and God there is only one.
I am once a mormon and they are the most beautiful people but they are all decieved by the leaders..
To all you people insulting this Mormon: follow Jeff’s example and show respect to the lost.
Steven Martin hi Steven
how are mormons lost?? i can never get an answer from non mormon they always tiptoe around it or change the subject in all honesty what an ignorant thing for you to say they are lost
stan price in Christian lingo, “lost” refers to those who are not in Christ, according to Christian orthodoxy, Mormons and not in Christ, therefore they are lost. Or “unsaved” it is not an insult but rather a title
@@getdownto311 When you're on the wrong road going in the wrong direction. You're lost.
So not believing the map of truth in order to get you to the place you desire to go, you're lost.
Like this young man, If you believe in a Jesus all the way to the point of the resurrection and then change everything about who He is. You're lost because you believe in another Christ. That's not skirting around the question.plain and simple.
@@getdownto311 It's a false religion, it does not follow the bible, Mormon''s have their own bible and doctrine, and that is called operating in the doctrine of men.
I feel like the person standing there (with the cap) watching in silence and in awe of this conversation. This is enlightening about the Mormon faith and even my own as a Christian.
That was me when i was Mormon. Thank God for delivering me from that evil cult.
@DCfreakshow i was excommunicated when i was 14.
Ask for your name to be removed from the rolls. If they don’t, threaten to go public.
www.utlm.org/onlineresources/nameremovalletter.htm
Me too! I was dead set in my faith that the LDS church was true!
@@HotMessCarnivore42 lds created by guys on lsd
Diona Green,
If you think the Church is a cult that's fine, you're welcome to your views. If you don't mind me asking, what makes you view it as evil?
Are you basing your views on what an individual did or all of us. I'd like to know why you think we're evil.
I love the work you are doing! I am a born again believer living in Utah. I came out of mormamism @ 5 years ago, Praise God! By the Grace of God. I have tried having these conversations with my family who are still under the deception of the Mormon Church. Watching this video has given my insight and scripture references I can use when taking to them. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. God Bless your work, and I will pray for guys :)
Glory to God!
tiffani smith good luck: I never got anywhere arguing with MORMONS!
tiffani smith, I am sad for you. First I will correct your terminology of the Lords Church. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Mormon is not the head of the church nor the foundation of the church, he was a prophet & the one who took a few of the records and compiled them, thus the Book of Mormon, the author however is Jesus Christ Himself, he is the one that revealed that which was to be written. There is no difference in how the Bible was compiled by prophets & apostles, who received revelations as to how the Book of Mormon was compiled from the prophets & apostles who received revelations. These and all the books of scripture go hand in hand. You
In my experience when we are not being strictly obedient, not taking the opportunity to study the Word, it leaves a gap in the gate that allows just enough room for Satan or one of his angels to creep in and tempt us, lie to us. Then we stop praying and we stop taking advantage of the Atonement, and before we know it we are not making the best of decisions, we start feeling inadequate, we stop praying and then Satan has a firm grasp. Don’t let him win, you must turn to the Light if the World.
There is a quote there, supposedly from Christ that says: “I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it.”
The church of Jesus Christ is the one and only true church on the face of the earth it holds the name of Jesus Christ unlike any other church it has prophets and apostles as spoken of in the New Testament and Old Testament we live by the commandments we believe in Jesus Christ the one and only Jesus Christ who in the pre-existence we knew as our brother Jehovah the one Jesus Christ to took upon Himself our sins, our sorrows, suffering by way of the Atonement.
I encourage you to look at at yourself as a daughter of God and ask if He is pleased with your decisions, I would also encourage you to dust off your Book of Mormon and kneel with real intent asking God if that record which was especially written for the last day if it is true, having faith and believing God will hear and answer your prayer. Should you, like millions of others find that the Holy Ghost bears witness to you, then step up to the plate and soak all that you can in. God is waiting for you to make that move, to ask for His forgiveness (something I have to do daily). He will not force you to believe His gospel, but will also have to implement the consequences of our choices and accountability.
You are a princess of a King, even our Father in Heaven, He awaits for each of His children to have humbled hearts and for those lost ones He wants them come back. Ultimately with the gift of free agency It is our decision as to what we want to receive for or eternal future, we are our own Destiny. Trials and tribulations will happen, that is what makes us strong.
I have found the Commandments are like a roadmap they are our direction back to our heavenly home, they help us be a better person if we are keeping them, where if we don’t keep the Commandments then we have no promise.
I have family members who left the church because they wanted to drink, smoke, not feel guilty for not keeping the Sabbath day Holy etc. The Church of Jesus Christ... was not for them, so they were baptized in the Catholic Church, the felt far less guilty. Sadly for them they will reap what they sewed and will only achieve the glory they could live in on earth.
tiffani smith tiff- don't listen to janu- she is angry because people misquote LM LDS- well. SHE is doing the same with Catholics. I am Cat H I, do not drinkor smoke & I honor the Sabbath because I try not to shop on Sun or go out to eat on the Lord"s Day- Just because her family. had fake CATH- does not mean this one is- TTY his woman needs to do her homework!
Can you still go to Utah if you quit Mormonism?
A pastor said to me a longtime ago, “people don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.“ I hope you maintained a connection with this gentleman. God was definitely working in his heart and he felt convicted but he doesn’t want to give up his whole world for Christ. God bless you all. Thank you for posting this because I have a friend that is a Mormon that I love very much but I never really understood what he believed.
Wow! Thank you pastor Jeff for your patience and tenacity in trying to save a lost soul.
Ya... But Who is going to show and lead the protestants to the True Church founded by Christ?
@@optimoprimo132If you follow that line of thought, you are giving the glory due only to The Father and giving it to men. Were it not for “the one true church”s corruption, the protestant reformation wouldn’t have happened.
@@yosiyyahu.bar.stephen
2 wrongs do not make a right.
Corruption is gauranteed when dealing with human beings.
The Word didn't become flesh because of the amazing track record of human beings or because everyone was going to magically become super saints in the future.
He founded a Church despite human weakness and even one of His cloest followers betrayed him and the one who He called rock upon which He was going to build His Church denied Him. Yet Jesus as God created His plan including all the variables of human weakness.
The authority of His Church still stands and this was as He willed it.
The Church will always retain this authority based on the power and wisdom of God.
Nothing good happens when trying to step outside this authority and it only makes things worse.
Just because protestants abandoned the bark of Peter does not give them a free pass of responsibility. Remember that the same anscestors who you condemn for corruption are your anscestors along with the catholic church. We all have the same roots and bear the same responsibility of the past.
Creating even more division did nothing to fix whatever was set out to be fixed. The end does not justify the means.
History shows that division comes from one place and the result is not unity or reform but rather more disunity, divisions, confusion and corruption if the truth. Just honest look at the state of christianity.
Can one person be such a fool. I am non religious whatsoever, but today I am a born again Christian through pastor Durbin
Supposed to b born again thru Jesus n the holy spirit. May wanna look into whether or not ur placing too much emphasis on an institution
JaB Wolf: All he is saying is that because of Jeff, his eyes are opened. Lets Celebrate :-) All it takes is a spark of Truth
You came to Christ through this video? That’s amazing!!! Amen brother welcome!!!
@@SamaritanElad let's all calm down here.. only God knows the intention of his heart with the statement he made. I believe he was trying to correct her and lead her closer to truth. Either way let's celebrate our new sister in Christ
I’ll be honest here. Jeff’s patience is astounding and he truly shows every aspect of what the Holy Spirit is. God bless him always for that. On the other note, he completely destroyed this man’s mormon theology and backed him in a corner in the most polite and most logical way through ACTUAL scriptural context and clear evidence. Poor guy was dancing too much around everything. #holyspiritwins
Hi Alex. See my post above. Merry Christmas.
Astounding, incredible, outrageous. If you didn't know Jeff was such a loving guy you could almost be fooled into believing that he did the whole thing just to browbeat this brainwashed idiot into submission and show off his incredible intellect and Ninja-Like mental reflexes to the whole of the UA-cam community.
he's a fraud.
Jeff's patience and his knowledge of the Bible is simply incredible.
Don't it make you want to seek the Lord as much?
We're all called to give an answer, amen?
Big deal , he’s able to recite from a book a fairy tales.
@@kennywilliams123 Can you... recite from a book of fairy tales that thick?
@The Carpenter yours might be the dumbest reply yet…. So because the Bible is thick, that makes it true? If that wasn’t so stupid, it would be funny.
@@kennywilliams123 How stupid you must be to think that.
The young man in the hat listening to both is definitely going to follow Christianity ✝️🙏 Praise be to God 🙏
Jeff is A-MAAAAAAAA-ZING. He is so intelligent, knows his stuff, is strong but gentle with the Mormon, is so kind, mature
& respectful. He never looses his cool with the Mormon and never looses his focus. I couldn’t do what he does. I would get too frustrated.
LV Girl,
Jeff doesn't know what he's doing, the missionaries don't know what they're doing, nearly everyone alive is deluded by the world.
Do I have the ability to read brains? Of course not, so how do I know exactly what people are going to say and do before they even do so?
Here's how, I just have to learn the programme they live by. Over 90% of the time people live by their subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, but no one has control of their subconscious thoughts including Jeff.
If I ask a Catholic why do they believe God is a spirit how do I know they'll show me John 4:24 out of all the options available?
I know because that's part of their programme.
How did I know Jeff was going to refer to Isaiah 43:10 and erase verse 11 out of all the scriptures saying there's only one God?
Because that's part of his programme.
The mind is a fascinating thing to learn about, it explains so much about people. Why do people find it so hard to accept certain pieces of information?
Nearly everyone has a set of beliefs fixated in their mind, anything that does not suit that set of beliefs the mind refuses to accept and since the people don't control their mind, their mind controls them.
Part of Jeff's programme is "God lives", no matter how much someone speaks the truth and says no one knows whether God exists or not, he refuses to accept that truth because it does not suit his programme.
The COVID-19 Vaccine, there's some people it hasn't worked on and there was something they had in common, those it didn't work on did not believe it would work, their brain would not accept a successful vaccine because of their beliefs, it's more successful on those who do believe because their mind will accept the information that the vaccine can work.
That's how powerful thoughts are.
I made Jeff leave his subconscious (programme) to use his conscience instead, he told me his own beliefs are heresy without knowing. I asked him a few questions about scriptures in the Bible and he said premortal life is biblical, I repeated his own words to him and asked "do you agree?" He then said "No, they're heresies."
When I told him I said exactly what he said he refused to believe it. His conscious answers oppose his programme so he won't accept what his conscience tells him.
@@danielmoore4024 can you elaborate on you how made him admit his views are Hersey? Also what are your views?
@@Lebronwski
I made him admit by making him step out of his comfort zone by my knowledge concerning the mind.
During the first 7 years of life humans live by "theta" also known as hypnosis. The first 7 years you were not taught countless rules of how to be a functional member of a family and community, you just observed and were hypnpotized to live that way.
95% of the time humans live by their subconscious thoughts, the mind literally is programmed and that's the problem. Here on UA-cam, type something like "programme mind". 95% of the time you are unconsciously living your subconscious thoughts, feelings and motives, that's why people hardly ever think. I may of written it above, if I ask a Catholic why they believe God is a spirit without a body they will unconsciously turn to John 4:24 because during that first 7 years they were shown John 4:24 to become a functional member of their religion.
I made Jeff have to exercise his conscience by asking him questions people don't ask him, since people don't ask him these they are not in his subconscious thoughts.
Me: Who's the woman in Revelation 12?
Jeff: Israel
Me: Who's Israel?
Jeff: The Lord's people
Me: Where were they?
Jeff: Heaven
Me: How could Israel flee from Heaven to earth if we were never in Heaven before mortality?
Jeff: It wouldn't be able to.
Me: We were in Heaven before earth in premortal life, do you agree?
Jeff: No, premortal life is heresy.
As soon as I allowed him to stop thinking he returned to the subconscience programmed to believe premortal life is heresy and that's why he called his own answers heresy.
About John 1:1, I just questioned him pulling him out of his subconscious and it greatly confused him.
Me: Eternity has neither beginning nor end, so when during eternity was the beginning?
If we didn't exist before the beginning who was God the God of, he couldn't be a God without anyone to be the God of?
"I am the Alpha and Omega"
Alpha and Omega of what I asked, he said everything. I pointed out, eternity has no end and he refused to believe it, his mind would not accept his conscious thoughts.
Jeff does not question his own beliefs, he unconsciously lives as a functional member of his religion, he does not have the freedom to think for himself.
@@Lebronwski
What would you like my views of?
If you want to know more about the mind without neurological and biological terminology, I recommend you a book called "Awareness" by Anthony De Mello, a great teacher and by the sounds of his book a non-LDS Christian. He was well known for his spiritual lessons, his book teaches you how to gain actual freedom. He writes again and again "WAKE UP!" to his readers.
I like what he shares at the end, he shares there's a god in every child, but as soon as people start to mould the child that god in them becomes a devil.
@@danielmoore4024 Wow you have 475 comments on this channel. You’re absolutely obsessed with Jeff
The Holy Spirit could be whispering in his heart right now .
The problem is he thinks he knows what the spirit says and refuses to accept otherwise
I hope he gets his blasemphous soul snatched out of his satanic ass self.
@@zertmcdirt7843 that’s not a very Christian thing to say now is it
@@JenniferHartleyIllanes
That's what's happening with all three of them. They all have a script of scriptures in their heads, and it's the same with nearly all Christians.
Making a script of scriptures is one listening to their own wisdom, not the spirit of God. Christ told his Apostles to not think about what they're going to say, that the spirit will deliver what is needed at the very moment.
I know which scriptures the missionaries are going to say because in the text books there's a list of scriptures on each belief, it's the same with all churches.
For example, if I ask a Catholic why do they believe God doesn't have a body and is a Spirit how do I know they will point me to John 4:24?
If I ask the missionaries about faith how do I know they will turn to Alma 32?
Because they speak with their own wisdom, not the spirit of God.
@@danielmoore4024 Daniel, you are absolutely correct in what you say to a point. You words are true when you speak of how only they refer you to scripture. However, it is done so with good intent. As they do so in a way to not twist the true meaning of the scripture with their own interpretation of it. For the message may be lost. However, firm in your knowing can you recite from Spirit alone.
Wow this youngster with Jeff is a straight soldier. God bless him.
I worked my whole awesome career with the LDS followers, I love them so much and want them to come to the saving knowledge of my Jesus.
I recently had the wonderful opportunity to lead an LDS follower to Jesus. She said to me that I am such a great teacher, and I said in response to God all the glory.
Thank Jeff for your ministry .
The spirit of God start cleansing to this Mormon guy.
He never is going to be the same. May God bless your work.
Alef Tav let s pray durbbin becomes LDS-!
@@joestim8707 ye u go first.
@@joestim8707 59:14 mormon getting cleansed with a smile! 😀
I'm sure Jeff is praying for this fella as he is speaking with him. God bless your wonderful ministry.
This is a case of the blind leading the blind.
Both the trinitarians and the Mormon are blinded to the truth of God
JohnBee So you think Trinity is false? Not biblical?
@@Nick-ov2hg
Of course it's false, there is no such teaching, taught anywhere in the Bible.
And there is not a single person through all of Bible history, worshiped as triune God.
Which would include, though not limited to Jesus Himself.
With that said, look how easy the trinity is disproven;
Who is Jesus' God?
Is there any other God, other than Jesus' God?
The trinity is both a lie and a deception.
And we need to get as far away from it as possible.
@@johnbee9957 when Jesus was baptised all 3 were mentioned.
@@jlfcpa
Citing the Father, Son and Holy spirit does not constitute the trinity.
It's so long... but I COULD NOT STOP WATCHING. Bless you brother
Rocky Maher like you, I could not stop watching. I’m a Christian and learn something every time I watch him. I keep my Bible & notebook beside me.
That's what she said.
ImSoPeeved
Dude. Really?
She absolutely fucking did, dude. 🍆👌🏽💦
@@ImSoPeeved bruh
I feel for this young man. He is having his life's beliefs completely destroyed. His whole family and all his friends are probably Mormons as well. I know this is tough because I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness.
You got your beliefs completely destroyed as a JW?
Likewise, are you now a trinitarian?
Just curious btw
@@smalltimer4370 I'm still working on what I believe. The Bible is so complex , and it's tougher when I don't speak Greek and Hebrew. Bible variations can alter context completely by interpretation.
Then factor in my sceptic mind...
I do believe in a creator for certain.
How about yourself ?
@@Blindsyde5762
I believe in the one true GOD YHWH [יְהוָ֞ה], and the resurrection of Jesus Christ in accordance with scripture.
And while I would also admit that the struggle with the parent Hebrew and Greek texts is indeed real, I should be said that we are far better disposed than ever in deciphering the written truth from scripture, thanks to the tools and advancements of modern day technology, such as; Biblehub, ChatGPT, the Concordances and advent of none-denominational Bible translations such as the WEB for example.
That said, and while it is true that the Bible is a vast and complex work, there remains one outstanding aspect, in-where we get to put GOD to the test, by taking Him up on His word for enlightenment. To which I'd add, is a win-win, in-that this not only demonstrates that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is indeed genuine and true, but moreso, by providing those putting faith in His instructions with the evidence they need to proceed with the assurance that they are indeed proceeding in accordance with GOD's will.
PS. therefore and should you be interested, I would love to read the Bible with you - no gimmicks, no hidden agenda's, just two people reading GOD's word in search of the truth
@@Blindsyde5762what if i said take a leap of faith, one night just pray to God. Jesus. Holy Spirit. You wana know him right? Really open your heart, tell me you don’t receive the Lord at that moment! Reply whenever you can. So many faithful Christians, have unlocked the key too life through Christ, and the key too treasure, wisdom, and salvation. He’s knocking at the door, just open it, it won’t kill you, it will FULFILL YOU. MAKE YOU WHOLE
Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
@RichMizenko I have prayed for that many times...
Christianity needs more people like this
Every one needs a bit of this spirt of god
Not really ..... Jesus said if I be lifted up I will draw all men into me. If Jeff believed he operated in power he would not have to argue with the boy ..... he could show Him the Father.
This Mormon hates to bring up what Mormonism teaches.
such as what you jackass?
@@getdownto311 how the book of Mormon contradicts the bible many times
@@getdownto311 you are apparently a Mormon. He did not want to deal with what the Mormons teach about teaching we are all gods and will one day have our own planet was one teaching of the Mormons he didn't want to deal with. He even said they don't bring it up in meetings.
@@getdownto311 we can ask a question without being immature by calling people names.
Golden Butterjam are you an idiot 😂 did you skip the video and come search to the comments 😂 what a joke
I was approached by missionaries and almost was lured into it. But I was so happy I found a loving Alliance Christian Church and a lovely young group that helped me go nowhere but the Bible and Jesus Christ. No one no works can do the work. But through faith and the love of Jesus our God who Died for our sins. I pray for all the lost souls who dose not know the bible or is reading the wrong doctrines. Hope they will one day come to the right path.
It is so hard to talk to Mormons sometimes. It just breaks my heart. My heart goes out to this community who are full of faith and seeking Jesus, but just don’t have it right. I’m currently talking to a few Mormon missionaries (it’s been going on for a couple months) with another Baptist buddy of mine. They’re just boys in their teens who have only been fed Mormonism and haven’t been encouraged or even gotten the chance to question and challenge and research their faith. I have such a love for the boys but the more I talk to them the more I get stuck and the more my heart breaks for them. I know I probably won’t be the one to change them, but I don’t wanna give up on them even though I feel our conversations being more and more stale and fruitless. If anyone sees this and finds it in their heart to pray for these boys, please do. God bless you 💛
I have done the same thing. They are children and starting to become men and are decieveing people.they hide the fact that they are mormon they claimed to be christian until a few visits and then pull out the book of mormon. I told them alot that showed their falsehoods in the mormon teachings. I pray for all the LDS children that they get the truth and save their brothers and sisters in their false religion. They stay because they get shunned from the family , church,and community and nowhere to go
I feel the same about all religions. Every one of them think they have it right of course...I grew up catholic and obviously our way was the only way and there are a million reasons as to why. I've since moved to the south where Baptist is apparently the only way....
Be strong in His mighty power, sister! Do not grow weary in doing good.
I would love to hear this man is now saved and believes in the biblical gospel 💛 Praying for you, Robert.
The Biblical gospel would be a great thing indeed, though it is obvious that there is no triune god in the gospel, and so it's important that the truth be uphold in such cases if we are to expect salvation.
@@johnbee9957 False. ua-cam.com/play/PL1mr9ZTZb3TWpnOJV09MuEAwbbQNCS6Qf.html
UA-cam has been a great tool for getting people out of Mormonism.
n islam education is key
@@alvamedley6735 lol! They are not the one who uploaded that. 😑
I would like to agree of your comment Ricky. Indeed, that's true! They have been using youtube to spread their false propaganda against the church.
People were acting so smart that they even rejected jesus when he was on earth. Knowledge goes with wisdom and wisdom comes from God. James 1:5
In Jesus name, Amen!
Jeff deserves a trophy for withstanding this morman
Just finished the video... I wouldn't be surprised if the mormon guy is now an ex mormon & is now born again. Im praying for him.
Lifeline Love amen I would like to share my survival testimony I suffered a massive stroke 2years ago my stroke lasted for 5hours before I was able to receive medical treatment, the almighty gave this wretch grace and spared this sinners life, I will have a radical healing testimony to share soon, for , I have claimed the promise of a1,000 foldblessing according to deuteronmy 1:1 has is promise cannot fall to ground, I look forward to sharing my healing testimony I’m only waiting for my decree to be established according to job 22:28 I declare and decree my wait is over I’m next in line for a miracle, blessed be the name of Jesus , his mighty name will be glorified through my healing testimony , may my testimony bring faith to others that are facing I’m tankful for this trial thank Your u father for allowing it to happen, I decree , I decree Isaiah 53:5 , &isiah 43:1, and isaiah61 it’s I declare that this is my harvest season please stand in agreement I declare that a kairos event is in my horizon amen and amen I was born 5 months premature at a catholic hospital the doctors didn’t think I was going to make it so the chaplain asked my parents if he could baptized from what I can gather 5 represents GODS grace and favor; hosanna!!
Man says that I have permanent brain damage I declare in the mighty name of Jesus that my brain is completely restored by the 39 stripes of kingJesus hosanna!
I pray the same
@@johnbebout3498 and why is that?
@@getdownto311 why am i praying for him?
This LDS brother is representing our faith very poorly. I'm sad for him because our faith seems to escape him.
You gave him a workout...in a very christlike way....RESPECT!
Christ didn’t argue intellectual points of personhood in the “godhead.” There is very little in this exchange that is Christlike - it’s a show of human intellectualism dressed in piety
@SpaceAce100
I agree Jeff is sincere concerning his own beliefs, but this is not the way you want to approach people if you want them to listen.
I can say religious people who approached me this way pushed me away, Jeff's way of confronting people and talking over them is plain impolite, they get the impression he's not going to let them speak, it's so annoying on the inside that he loses their attention then it makes him speak over them even more making him appear to be an arrogant bigot.
Making people think he's an arrogant bigot won't help people listen.
@@danielmoore4024 it wasn't the "religious people" that pushed you away. It was the sin you love that pushed you away.
Nobody likes the thought of answering for their sin. That's why people either argue, or walk away from God's Word.
@@dannymccarty344
Christ said I will know them by their fruits, religious people like Jeff don't even know what they actually do believe.
When people ask me for a reason for the hope that is in me I'm always prepared, I don't have a script of scriptures or any plan in my head.
Why is it when I ask people about the scriptures one question at a time they answer and come to their own conclusion, including Jeff, why do they refuse to believe their own answers?
Jeff confessed premortal life as biblical, when I repeated his words to him and asked "do you believe what I just said?"
He said it's a heresy, he claims his own answers to questions about the scriptures are heresies.
@@danielmoore4024 you'd be wiser to study the scriptures that Jeff points out. Attacking Jeff and his choice of words, seems petty.
It's God's Word that refutes the Mormon, not Jeff's beliefs.
Thank you Jeff helping me get thru this. ❤❤❤ I’m a get baptized soon at apologia south Jordan. I’m a native to Los angeles. May the Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless you ❤
That poor man is so deceived , it breaks my heart!
I'm with you... I've been listening for only 20 minutes, and I could cry.
Yeah well they both seems deceived to me (and a lot of people commenting here too). And that's what break my heart. Mormonism is evidently way more easy to dismissed but still. To me they both sound like : ''My fictional god () is more coherent with the bible and the reality than yours.''
And he seems quite smart, its like he knows he is being deceived cause he wants to believe jeff
Anyone who claims they know the truth are deceived, people don't "know" the truth, we just "believe" we know the truth.
There's nothing to confirm our beliefs as true which is why we require faith, you cannot have faith in anything you know.
He seems to be proud and drunk with ignorance sadly. I wonder where he is today in his journey toward truth. Follow up video?
Man I love this guy, that Mormon is so passionate. I pray that he'll come out of that false doctrine!
it is a good thing to pray for the wellbeing of others.
Though praying for someone to believe in the trinity is about equal to praying that someone looses their hope of everlasting life.
Not gonna happen as long as you bible thumping idiots continue to berate and perpetuate a lie towards the mormons
Paul Kennedy and Jan Leyba look at the compassion in this comment. He has compassion....
Amen.
And Jeff out of his false doctrine.
satan's lie to Eve, "you can become as gods"
Pete Spencer
Jesus quoted from a Psalm to Jewish doctors:
I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are sons of the Most High.
Nevertheless you will die like men
And fall like any one of the princes.”
Adam and Eve didn't know good and evil before the apple. God, of course, knows of good and evil. After they bite the apple, they become as gods, (meaning plural because it refers to two people Adam and Eve) now knowing good and evuil. I could say I become as Elvis, knowing the lyrics of the songs he recorded, but It doesn't make me Elvis just because I now know the same lyrivs Elvis did.
"What does the Bible mean by 'you are gods' / 'ye are gods' in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34?"
Answer: Let’s start with a look at Psalm 82, the psalm that Jesus quotes in John 10:34. The Hebrew word translated “gods” in Psalm 82:6 is Elohim. It usually refers to the one true God, but it does have other uses. Psalm 82:1 says, “God presides in the great assembly; he gives judgment among the gods.” It is clear from the next three verses that the word “gods” refers to magistrates, judges, and other people who hold positions of authority and rule. Calling a human magistrate a “god” indicates three things: 1) he has authority over other human beings, 2) the power he wields as a civil authority is to be feared, and 3) he derives his power and authority from God Himself, who is pictured as judging the whole earth in verse 8.
This use of the word “gods” to refer to humans is rare, but it is found elsewhere in the Old Testament. For example, when God sent Moses to Pharaoh, He said, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh” (Exodus 7:1). This simply means that Moses, as the messenger of God, was speaking God’s words and would therefore be God’s representative to the king. The Hebrew word Elohim is translated “judges” in Exodus 21:6 and 22:8, 9, and 28.
The whole point of Psalm 82 is that earthly judges must act with impartiality and true justice, because even judges must stand someday before the Judge. Verses 6 and 7 warn human magistrates that they, too, must be judged: “I said, `You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler.” This passage is saying that God has appointed men to positions of authority in which they are considered as gods among the people. They are to remember that, even though they are representing God in this world, they are mortal and must eventually give an account to God for how they used that authority.
Now, let’s look at how Jesus uses this passage. Jesus had just claimed to be the Son of God (John 10:25-30). The unbelieving Jews respond by charging Jesus with blasphemy, since He claimed to be God (verse 33). Jesus then quotes Psalm 82:6, reminding the Jews that the Law refers to mere men-albeit men of authority and prestige-as “gods.” Jesus’ point is this: you charge me with blasphemy based on my use of the title “Son of God”; yet your own Scriptures apply the same term to magistrates in general. If those who hold a divinely appointed office can be considered “gods,” how much more can the One whom God has chosen and sent (verses 34-36)?
In contrast, we have the serpent’s lie to Eve in the Garden. His statement, “your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” (Genesis 3:5), was a half-truth. Their eyes were opened (verse 7), but they did not become like God. In fact, they lost authority, rather than gaining it. Satan deceived Eve about her ability to become like the one true God, and so led her into a lie. Jesus defended His claim to be the Son of God on biblical and semantic grounds-there is a sense in which influential men can be thought of as gods; therefore, the Messiah can rightly apply the term to Himself. Human beings are not “gods” or “little gods.” We are not God. God is God, and we who know Christ are His children.
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How do you know it was a lie?
Because Adam and Eve never became gods. The death sentence was carried out upon all mankind. Everyone will die.
God had already told Adam not to eat from this tree. Adam was already aware that doing so was wrong, and he knew the consequences, yet he chose to join Eve in eating the fruit. When they ate, they were not simply aware of evil; they experienced evil, to the extent that they became evil-sinners by nature.
Man knew what was good: he was created in goodness and was surrounded by it (Genesis 1:31). He had been given everything God wanted him to have, including authority over all the rest of God’s creation. Adam had everything he needed for a fulfilling life. He did not need to “know” evil, especially when the only way for him to “know” it was to experience it. It should have been enough that God had warned Adam against disobedience. God did not want Adam and Eve to “know” evil in the sense of participating in it. The sin of Adam and Eve was not in attaining knowledge but in rejecting God’s will in favor of their own.
Because of their sin, Adam and Eve received dire consequences. First, Eve was told, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you” (Genesis 3:16).
Second, Adam was told, “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life” (Genesis 3:17).
Third, for both Adam and Eve, “You are dust, and to dust you will return” (Genesis 3:19). They had been told they would “die” if they ate from the tree (Genesis 2:17). This consequence did not happen immediately, but Adam and Eve did both physically die, a pattern followed by all other humans.
Fourth, they were expelled from the Garden of Eden: “So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken” (Genesis 3:23).
Adam and Eve began life in ideal conditions: an idyllic garden, plentiful food, a harmonious relationship with one another, and close fellowship with God. Due to sin, they lost their garden, were required to work to produce food, experienced interpersonal conflicts, and damaged their fellowship with God. These consequences of Adam’s sin still affect us today.
The apostle Paul spoke about the last Adam (Jesus) who came to restore our broken relationship with God (1 Corinthians 15:45). Paul also noted, “Since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man” (1 Corinthians 15:21). Adam was responsible for sin’s entrance into humanity. Jesus Christ was responsible for providing the way for resurrection. After sin entered humanity, Jesus became the perfect substitute to allow every person the opportunity to believe and receive eternal life (John 3:16).
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Being an ex-mo myself. Being born into the religion. The programming goes deep. I'm out and have been excommunicated labeled an apostate. For starting a ministry to help the homeless and the addicts. Bless you Jeff and all involved with Apologia you are an inspiration.. let's save these kids 🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good Job Jeff! It was like watching a Lion gently, and lovingly guide a sheep along the path. The young man so desperately wants to be right about his beliefs yet doesn't have the foundation of truths to stand on. Intellectually, he struggles to defend a belief that is indefensible. Jeff is very kind to him, and I have learned a lot on multiple levels.Watching The Holy Spirit through Jeffs display of patience, and loving kindness towards the young man was an object lesson I am in need of. Thank you for all you do!
I have so much respect for Mormons and JW to be willing to go out and share their beleifs the way they do. It's just a shame that it's a false doctrine. I wish more Christians were willing to share the true gospel of who Jesus really is.
So very well said John, totally agree.
@@coywitt3740cw You have so much respect for those who worship themselves and the false gods that they have created because they make attempts to spread their disgusting doctrine that is entirely contrary to the one delivered to the saints once and for all? Really?
@@simbadlemarin1815 The respect is for the their work ethics only. Christians should be willing to do the same thing but most do not. I do not condone what they are doing or what they teach.
@@simbadlemarin1815 wow you must be a joy to be around I can’t believe after his remark what you came up with was what you wrote down above. You are exactly like the Mormon in this video above, judge mental and wrong.
I really loved this brother. Love the way you were gentle and not quarrelsome, patient, well adapted to teach in meekness instruction, leading him who opposes himself, that perhaps God may grant him repentance to the acknowledging of the truth and he may escape the snare of the devil. May God richly bless you and your ministry.
Durbin sure has his scriptures memorized! Excellent job!
Yeah he blows my mind like others who have memorized the entire Bible or large portions of it. I've read thru most of the Bible at least 4 times and some of far more often and can paraphrase much of it but have never been able to memorize it.
It’s too bad he twist them around to confuse you all, but then that is what the father (Lucifer, Satan, the Devil) of contention and all lies wants him to do. Confuse you, cause you to question the truth.
If you want a true understanding of scripture you can read my explanation in the public comments or follow my conversation with Faye Lewis.
imkluu Memorizing it means nothing if you don’t understand it. You can find many of the same messages the prophet’s spoke or prophesied in the Old Testament & New Testaments in the Book of Mormon Another Witness of Jesus Christ, the Doctrine & Covenants & Pearl of Great Price (writings of Moses & Abraham). God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow!!!
Neither of these guys has the TRUTH Jesus taught . . . . Jeff your interpretation of John 1:1 contradicts itself. You can't be someone and be WITH someone !
1TalldrinkH2O no he doesn’t have knowledge of the true word of God. If he did he wouldn’t be doing this for this is not of God. Wake up people
Pastor Jeff treats the Mormon with respect and love. What a great example for Christians!
Pastor Jeff is a preacher of lies
If I’ve learned one thing from this interaction it’s “LISTEN”.
Jon B,
Listening and being silent is powerful, especially in life.
You might of heard of videos like "Don't Mess With the Quiet One". I'm a quiet listener myself and I just let the other talk and talk until they have nothing left to say.
Quiet people are more aware and obtain more information to use by being able to listen and observe.
@@danielmoore4024 actually, I only said that because the dude kept saying “listen” as Durban was already listening.
@@jonb1671
Listening includes taking notice, not disregarding what the other had to say as Jeff does everyone probably because he's overconfident.
I've had a conversation in the past, he ignored so much that he denied his own words and called his own beliefs heresy.
@@danielmoore4024 no offense, but you're not listening to the tone of the opening post.
@@VVeremoose
Why do people lie with their tone then?
I don't find using a different tone an acceptable reason to lie. If Jon did not learn about listening his message is a lie.
Yes, great Job, Jeff. My husband was once a Mormon & is now a born again Christian, amen
I really like Jeff's face when the people he talks to interrupt him to say something that he's already given a Biblical answer to.
God bless you Pastor for sharing God's Blessings to the lost soul. Will pray for your ministry.
Jesus saved me from Mormonism 3 years ago! God bless you Jeff!
This brother sounds so confused and his heart and mind sounds troubled. Praying for his heart and mind for peace and clarity.
Jeff has a EPIC beard.
lmas
image should never play a factor in anything. Peace!
Jeff, in reality, whether we like it or not, it does. Good-looking blonde women get hired faster than fat chicks do.
Sandy, this is satan's world, so yes, unfortunately, that may be the way it is some places, but as Christians, we should never worry or spend too much time on our images. Upkeep, maintenance, healthy living is all fine, but not vanity. We should never spend too much time making our hair and beards and makeup (for the ladies) a certain way. That is ego.
Jeff, you made excellent points. I was looking a today's newspaper's real estate section, and the multi-million-dollar homes are simply breathtaking, but so few people have any REALISTIC chance of ever getting one, and so I see what you mean! Without the money, it's all a mirage in the desert.
This is the definition of wisdom. He gives this man the truth. Countless times he could’ve said I got you I got you but he doesn’t because he knows that that man’s pride would instantly put up a wall and he could no longer share the gospel
Beautiful Isn't it? REAL Love. I'm in Awe of GOD working through Jeff.
Thank you for for recording this video Jeff, As a Christian it motivates me to be responsible with my walk with God. Amen
Angel Nunez me too. from the Philippines.
Lord, please save that Mormon' man. He's been deceived. I pray in Jesus name.
Romans 16:20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.
You are delusional lol
The Mormon was so convicted he didn’t know how to process the absolute truth. But I have faith this seed you planted really got him thinking more. God bless you!
“You need to repent for saying that”
But is it true?”
I don’t know, it could be true”
🤣
Right!?!
Truth hurts…
Oh... Wow. This man is patient. My first time listening to him and I'm blown away
Pastor Jeff has all the fallacies memorized!!
Hi, Philip. Maybe the long post bI submitted above will blow you away even more. Happy hunting. Alan
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The poor young mormon guy he seems so uncomfortable and insecure about what he believes.
@@Finn.Newton no, the guy is lost and needs to get saved
Finnlay Newton you might say we all believe in god just in different ways, but we don’t all believe in the same god. The Israelites believed in Baal and worshiped him and because of this and among other things God sent the Israelites into captivity in Babylon. So yes most believe in a god, but not everyone believes in the one true god who exists as the trinity as god the father god the son and god the Holy Spirit. God bless you
@@Finn.Newton He was respecting the Mormon, the Mormon's faith as shown by his knowledge of the Mormon faith, but he doesn't need to respect an incorrect belief. Ex, if you thought gravity didn't exist and were therefore about to jump off a building, I would NOT respect your belief, especially because it is contradictory to evidence. Same here, Jeff was giving this guy clear and mostly plain examples of scripture, and the Mormon's beliefs CONTRADICTED them. They were arguing over who Jesus was and that is essential to the Christian faith. It's a point of contention that is worth arguing.
@@Finn.Newton Jeff was respectful.. but truthful. Jeff was not arguing.. Of course you should test everything with the Bible. The Mormon missionaries are leading people to a false christ so of course they should be spoken to.
@@briceterronez Yes Brice what the bible says all 66 books.
Being LDS for many years I understand what this young man is going through . I love the LDS people but I side with the Bible the word of God
Dubin knows his stuff, man!!! Wow!!!
When the guys begins to interrupt but you say “I’m gonna answer the question” to kindly cut him off made me happy. I feel like I’m learning so much about how to calmly and correctly handle people in general!
nah jeff acted like a total arrogant douchebag towards him and was factually wrong on alot of stuff
stan price I followed along with my bible as reference and he pretty much nailed it. He was very respectful, why are you so triggered?
The patience and restraint shown here is enviable. I would have lost my mind