EP-216: NOS ATF on the Sinclair Spectrum
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Join me as we find out if I can get ATF to load from Cassette, onto my Spectrum +3, after nearly 40 years.
Massive thanks to Si, aka @gingerhippygaming7962 for the New Old Stock copy of ATF. Check out his channel.
Thanks for watching.
#PlayMoreIn24
Timecodes for the time poor:
00:00:00 = Introduction / Nostalgia.
00:04:17 = Unboxing Used Copy.
00:06:11 = Loading Used Copy.
00:10:18 = Do we unwrap the NOS copy?
00:11:59 = More load testing.
00:19:57 = Gameplay.
00:31:18 = Conclusions and outro. - Ігри
You are more than welcome mate, you known how much opening seald games makes me smile. Its not to upset anyone but that feeling knowing you are the first ever person to load and play that tape from when it left the factory 40 years ago. Nice seeing you so happy mate but have to say not a game i will play lol
Thanks again mate. Opening and struggling to load a perfectly new copy was the perfect way to tell my story I think. it replicates exactly the struggle I had when this game was brand new. It wouldn't have been possible without you mate.
Thanks a lot Chris. Now I have this ringing in my ears that won't go away! 🤣🤣🤣
Haha but will it load? Connect your ears up to a spectrum and see what happens.
Lovin the double glasses action just to read a code 😂
Bahaha I was wondering if someone would spot that. It worked too lol
I enjoy the back stories to your game pickups. I see your definitely playing more in 24. Enjoy
Thanks for the kind words mate. Very timely as I just had someone on a FB group accusing me of taking my viewers for mugs and stretching the video out to please UA-cam, which I do not do.
A single comment like that makes me question why I do tell the stories and not just show the game like many others.....but a positive comment like your own brings the focus back. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
@005AGIMA of course mate ! Plenty of other tubers out there that just stream games. ( booringgggg ) . You bring a "real time" perspective on what it's like to try load games and the like showing all the ups and downs time spent and struggles of retro gaming . So tonight when I try to load Green Baret on tape on my Amstrad and scream when it doesn't work I know I'm in good company lol.
Found myself cheering on the old tape loading sequences, that it would work and I could clap/punch the air in victory....but it all came good in the end.
haha fist pumps in the air all round :D
Hi Chris. I felt your pain. My copy of Rampage used to be a git to load. It would always get right to the end and fail. Me and my mates would go to my house at school lunchtimes to play it so I would get up early to load it before school. Some days I would be screaming at my tape deck for the flippin thing to work as I was running out of time. Nostalgia I don't miss lol.
haha those are the kind of memories I love hearing about. Glad I'm not the only one who struggled lol.
I love seeing Speccy games loading ❤️
When they eventually load that is😂
Haha the struggle was and is real. :D
Yeah, damn right, those games were made to be enjoyed so opening a NOS copy is good, great and fine I think. Also it is great to see other people struggling and succeeding with same kind of things that I (and undoubtedly many others) am. One great pat of this hobby is to right these age-old wrongs :-)
haha yeah. The struggle was real. Funny enough I've tried to use apps on my phone to load tape images, but they fail on the spectrum also. They're rock solid on the Acorn Electron though. The Spectrum needs tons more gain.
Impressed by the graphics, thanks for sharing 😊
Not bad for the day at all hey. The grid does make it feel like I'm strafing sideways not turning, but I'll forgive it that. It's very fast, which is what I recall the magazines praising.
This game came in a pack my dad bought me for the C64. Test Pilot, I think the pack was called. Played this game repeatedly, a really fantastic one!
Ooh nice. Never saw that pack. Sounds awesome.
I like nostalgia gaming memories lots of 👍📝🕹️❤
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Ah I miss them speccy days, such carefree living.
Emotional reading a simple comment like that. That's the very reason I do this. The memories of those carefree times. Glad I could take you back.
Ahh man, those memories, welcome to one of my most favourite 8bit games, it was a bit slower on the humble CPC. But boy did I love it. Might be responsible for some very rushed and poor homework, who am I trying to kid, scrub “might be”.
It’s a surprisingly deep game. You can fly closer to the ground to limit detection. And having completed your primary mission you can then take out other ground sites before returning to land and that made it easier as the game progressed because there were fewer enemies.
Yeah I need to read the manual now :D I suspect I was meant to access the computer to find the ground targets. But I just wanted to finally fly around after all this time lol. But this is what I love about Spectrum games. Some on the surface are a bit "meh", but scratch deeper and there is hours of entertainment to be had. Examples that spring to mind include Turbo Esprit, Park Patrol, and Raid of Moscow.
Ah the memories of load errors and the worry that the game you bought you mightn't even be able to play.
I think the last game that I had to return was Spore on the PC. That hurt. Years of anticipation, 2 copies of the game that the DRM failed to install. And it got to hurt me again when i got it years later on Steam and it's quite an average game at times.
wow not heard about modern download games not working. That sucks lol.
My sister had paperboy on her first computer and I seem to remember that being a good game
Yeah paperboy was one of my faves.
Been looking forward to this since it popped up, huge fan of A.T.F.
played it for hours, fairly sure I completed it.
Oooh that tape sounds rough.
Bet I haven't seen this running since I was about 14 or 15.
Vaguely from memory you have to select enemy bases and take them out, think you had to sort of line yourself up using the map.
It's been a looooong time though.
Both copies loaded 🤣😂
Great game and worth waiting almost 40 years for mate. Think I'll read the manual lol.
You’d never have got to see our manager as he locked himself in his office with a bottle of whiskey everyday.
If I’d been on duty I’d have just swapped it out for another copy.
Have to admit part of the appeal of moving to Commodore from Sinclair was the C2N dedicated cassette deck. Never had a failed load on either the VIC20 or C64. Even today I’ve never had a cassette fail to load. Now, cartridges on the other hand… got a stack of those that don’t work.
Happy flying. 🙂
haha sounds like my kind of manager. I do recall they didn't have another copy. What I also now think is he said I could have a trade, but not a refund, and they had nothing I wanted to trade for at the same price. So we ended up going to Tonbridge in the end and I traded it for....well....that's another story I'll tell when I get my hands on a copy of the game I traded it for ;)
@@005AGIMA Look forward to the next chapter… 🙂
Great video Chris, thanks for sharing! As my brother said, I also love seeing the real struggles loading the games and hearing the back stories behind why you buy the games. Can I ask why you don’t just use the Sony $10 stereo from the start? lol 😅.
Yeah I only recently got the shoe-box player (also a Sony) and it's been fine until this test. Given it's more similar to the style I used back in the day, it's my preference. I really thought I could at last pass on the mini-stack but it seems not lol.
New game for me this one looks impressive for the Speccy matey. Was hoping you were gonna play lotus for a minute or two 🤣😊
hehey thanks for watching mate. Na I played lotus a while back and that was a pain to load too lol. That vid is here: ua-cam.com/video/2TqR65yZs40/v-deo.html
Loved this game 😍👍 on my +2.
It's a great game. Was it easier to load on the +2?
At one point there, whilst you was having trouble loading, I was thinking you might have to rename to Trying To Play More In 2024!
Come back to This Week In Retro Chris. Now I have to put up with some bloke for whom half of his videos show him cleaning old computers and this Scottish bloke who pronounces some words weirdly! Just kidding Neil and Dave. Love you all.
haha it loaded in the end hey. Man I could watch a whole episode of TWiR while trying to get this to load 🤣
OMG I remember the noise 😂😂😂👏👏👏👏
Screaming lol
@@005AGIMA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The mini stack of awesomeness wins again 😎 but this is why I emulate, instant load, every time 😂
All games should be released from the seal 🤘🤘🤘
Haha I think the shoebox Sony needs a clean and possible belt change. If it still doesn't load this game after that, I'll be keeping the ministack lol. It's just too consistently good 🤣
The game looks really nice, framerate is good.
Not bad for the speccy :)
I loved ATF on the speccy, I have a spare copy of ATF 2 I can send over to you? I will need to check it loads first as it has been sitting for a few decades in a box.
Oh mate that would be very much appreciated. Assuming you're in the UK, I can apply a UK address and happy to cover postage.
You could do with a tape deck that has tone control or a WH Smith CPD8300
Yeah I do have a Mitsui with tone controls but it's got other issues and chews tapes when you're not looking lol. That's the one thing with this Sony showbox....no tone controls :(
great vid mate i need to dust my speccy off aint played it in yonks
Cheers mate. Dew it! :D
Feeling the urge to get me a new OLD computer mate
Haha do it
You need to track ground targets with onboard avionics then you can shoot missiles at them.
Yeah I think I'll read the manual. Really keen to get into this one after all this time.
No wonder people turned to piracy, can't have been as much of a palava as that to load the pirated copies. ATF looks great for the limitations of the time.
Well pirated cassettes were just dubbed from the original, so often they were even harder to get to load. Of course this was late in the Spectrum's life (1988) so the reality is, it was the tape deck aging that probably made it such a pain to load. Similar to what we've seen here in the video, this game "needs" a good tape deck. I'd assume +2 owners didn't feel the same pain as the integrated deck was a lot less troublesome than an external one.
I only experienced tape on C64 and never had this kind of problems. But then again only had decks made for it, so that could have made life easier :) . Is it a spectrum problem in general this? or just the +3?
I recall my mates with a 48k rubber key spectrum often having load fails. But keep in mind, back then, the quality of the external deck wasn't guaranteed. I think most Spectrum owners if they're honest ran into plenty of errors and I think that's reflected in the comments here. But the +2 had an integrated deck which was much more reliable. And the +3 using disk, was the most reliable and fastest. But disk games were limited and over priced, and hence more +3 owners, like myself, had more tapes than disks, and used an external deck.
All part of the charm now, but sounds frustrating back then.
That sounds dull like the heads need adjusting. and those bars should be about evenly sized cyan / red....
Yeah oddly the time it loaded, the red and cyan were not even. I think I'll give that deck a good clean as it is creaky regardless of what tape is in it. I suspect it needs a clean and regrease, and possibly new belt.