@@SchizophrenicGamer Doesn't Faimon give the most money though? If we compare the price from rune drops of Faimon/Aiden? I thought that's why people did Faimon... Btw, for any new players out there, you might want to do Faimon because of the Inugami drops, especially given the fact that you are probably going to need a lot of skill ups for Kro/Raoq/Bella second awakening.
Schizophrenic Gamer I thought people did faimon because of the energy drops that you could get from faimon for the energy spent on farming along with the inigami, mana, etc.
i think the reason why faimon is much popular because of how fast you can clear it and there's 2 nat3s (inugami and salamander) meaning much higher chance to drop
This was amazing, thank you! I find the game has really evolved since 2014. I started a new account and find this game a lot more user friendly. New missions are very rewarding and teach you how to play the game. Better descriptions in tutorials as well. 1 hour and 45 minutes = 2 new six stars The strategy 1) EXP boost and dimension crystals 2) Have a farmer and fodder -> 2 star silver from shop, unknown, scenarios, social summons. 3) hit dimension -> 2 star will go up to level 18 off of 1 run (with 1 farmer and 4 monsters that are two star) 4) Use social and unknown to get fodder from 2 star to 3 star. Use 1 star to get them from level 18 to 20. 5) Evolve rainbowmon from 3 star to 4 star and feed to awakened 3 star (fake 4) and max 4 star rainbow. Advice - Farm 3 star rainbowmon from rift (hard to do early game). Look towards TOA and events. - Do not get lazy. Do not feed natural born 4 star. Save your NB4 for skill ups and perhaps buffs. - Use awakened 3 star (fake 4 star) as main fodder. Once again, well thought out strategy. I will definitely be using this at my current alt stage. Thank you!
im at a stage where i dont even have unknown scrolls so every 1* counts lol. heres a few tips i can give: 1. 1 dimensional hole + 1 faimon hell run (nonrep) gives exactly enough exp needed to max 2*s 2. 3 faimon hell runs (nonrep) gives exactly enough exp to max 1* 3. when i lack 3* maxed rainbowmons, give 3* monsters 2 maxed angelmon (for a chance of 1.5 multiplier) + 1 maxed angelmon (if no lightning), its just nice to max it 4. when i lack 4* maxed rainbowmons, just make 4 maxed 4* monsters with dimensional hole during double exp, it takes 6 runs + 1 faimon hell 5. you can stock up to 12 dimensional crystals (if you have 9 and collect 3 you will have 12) 6. if youre popping an exp booster (12 hr), do it before your day reset time so you get a total of 18 dimensional crystals. 12 stocked, 3 from day 1 mission, 3 from day 2 mission. 7. use friends rep when you can (but not when you're close to max level) just keep making 3*s and when you dont have exp booster on farm runes. you will have a good balance of 3* max rainbowmons and food to make them 4* (casual play)
@@icecold4411 bro I'm early game and it's pretty easy as long as you have 2 stars and a faimon farmer (friend reps are even better but they're harder to get)
ᄋᄉᄋ Really? In my run I had like 200 unknowns, summoned all and fed none of them (only for evolution) got 2 six stars and went broke for the next few days on unknowns. Guessing I must have been unlucky lol
Sweet same here but i buy every monster in the shop i summon every scroll even stones wen im farming giants dragons necro i get that mana to pay for it than once a week i pop the exp booster lvl up make 6 star than wit that exp booster the game gives u for first six star u use it untill its time is up
I’m gonna be 100% with you when I first started off I felt so desperate to 6* things that I even started to feed l/d nat 4s that weren’t considered OP even started feeding units that I had already 5* but didn’t use lol
when youre doing shop refreshes, you should grab the unknown scrolls too. theyre a third of the cost of silver 2 stars and theres a chance of getting 2s from them
If you use a Friends Rep mon with 3 lv 18 2*, they will be maxed after 1 faimon run. If you use your own rep, and take 2 lv 18 2* they will be maxed after 1 Faimon run. Using your own rep with 3 lv 18 2*, it'll take two Faimon runs. After you use 12 Dimensional Rift Crystals, you'll have 48 2* mon at lv 18. This will only take 16 friend reps to max all of them, VS 32 runs with your own *if you are bringing 3 mons + your mon for each run.
Why aren't you teaching them to use friend's reps for farming scenerio before using one of their own? Using your own farmer is a waste of an opportunity for more exp. Also, early game takes a long time to save up those 3*and 4* rainbowmon when you're a noob. That takes like a month at least to 6* 1 unit. You can turn those silver 2* into 5* very easily and 6* something at least once a week if you are focused, also why feed 1* when you can get them to 15 on a single run through dimensional with an exp boost? That's food for those 2 stars you're spending mana on in the shop. F2P can't afford to waste resources like that.
Bagel has mentioned this in other videos (and in replies to comments on this one), but he believes leveling 1 star mons is inefficient. With that one rift run with double xp, you can get a 2* mon to lv 18 and then just feed the one stars to the 2* mon. Bagel believes that this is the best use for them. I personally have been known to level up a 1* or two, but I try not to use the rift for them since regular scenario runs level them up pretty fast anyway. When you're low on resources and don't have a lot of unknown scrolls (which seems to happen to me every time I use double xp regardless of how many I have before starting) you can take the 2* mons into the rift and then level your 1* mons alongside the 2* mons when you do the runs to get that last little bit of xp for them.
@@HungerTheLetsPLay when leveling a 2* mon that's at 18, I use one of my lower level friend's reps that may not be able to clear a scenerio stage, but will yield enough exp to get them to 20. That not only helps me, but also a lower level player who rarely gets the social points from others using their low level reps. For someone with his experience and payed accounts 1*s might be inefficient when evolving his stockpile of rainbowmons, but for early/new players wasting mana on 2*s is not possible because you don't have 1million mana laying around (you're spending it to power up your runes so you can make it through dungeons and arena), and waiting a month or more to 6* each unit. F2P new/early players need to make the most of their resources. Bagel said that's who this video is for. I didn't read the comments, I watched the video to see if he was using a better method so I could share it as an alternative with low level guild mates and mentees who ask for advice. I left my comment to help other newer players who came to this video thinking they would get a method of 6* more frequently rather than just a method to 6* in an hour or so after first saving up rainbowmon for a month or more. I 6* about once a week using 1* and 2* fodder rather than waiting for rainbowmons. The rainbowmon method works, it's just not the most efficient way because overall it takes longer to aquire the rainbowmon than it would to just 5* silver* fodder. You are cool with saving up rainbowmon. Cool. I'm interested in helping newer players 6* 4 units a month rather than maybe 1.
@@kzharlz not everyone. I've had to explain it to 3 new guild mates and 1 mentee this weekend alone. He said he made the video with newer players in mind.
Ty for the video!! --- > Bagel can you do a tutorial for LAB HELL stages : Rescue , speed stage , bosses , cooldown time up. It would help new/mid players like me. ---> Thank you and good work!!
When I'm low on rainbowmons in storage after 6*ing some things I use my dimensional crystals to level 1*s, if you take in 4 1*s no exp booster they go straight to lvl 14. Since you cant save up more than 12 dimensional crystals anyway I use them that way every day for a few weeks and then will start saving them a few days before I plan to pop exp boosts. I don't think feeding 1*s is a bad approach but I don't seem to find Unknown scrolls nearly as often anymore I used to have thousands, now I average between 200-300 and then it dips down after I 6*. I really liked the idea of buying silver 2*s. I'm going to do that more from now on.
I used to do that, but now that I actually have 1500+ unknown scrolls I don't need to anymore. I should cause I know have like 200 useless nat 4s that even if they are buffed to godly levels I will never use.
Thanks again for posting...Love you from the beginning glad to see the evaluation from you “taking sips from star bucks cups and talking not just about the game, but also about how you met these wrestlers’ and living in Vegas and funny skits with a helmet ⛑ as well as hot Asian chicks back up your laughter in your bedroom lol we love you and we are glad to see you have grown a craft and honed it lol 😂 your the best schizophrenic gamer🤩
Omg I just noticed the first song in the background Glow'ed up by Goblin on mars x Ryan oaks literally one of my favorite chill songs to just listen to when idk what to do.
When I got bored I just started foddering everything from velajuel doops to zaiross doops I just stopped caring anymore then I eventually quit and started epic 7. Recently tried this game again and got bored instantly
as a F2P player, for 5* monsters i like to use diablemon that i let passively lvling to 4* max in lvling storage like Practice Battle Field . Then i 5* them with food and food them to the 5* monster to get to 6* and with the bonus of 5 skillups at the same time.
Try this instead when doing dimensional rift: one farmer + (3) 2* mons OR one farmer + (4) 1* star mons on HARD difficulty. they will max out on 1 completion. its just a lot cleaner and less of a headache than leveling (4) 2* mons to 19, then leveling (3) of them to level 20, then the last to 20 lol.
To max 2* you need 1 run in Rift (4 monsters + farmer) and 1 run in Faimon Hell(3 monsters + farmer) using your farmer. So, to max 12 2* you need no more than 30*3 + 5*4 = 110 energy (about 9 energy by monster). To max 1* you need 3 runs in Faimon Hell using you farmer (3 monsters + farmer). So, to get 3 max 1* monsters you need no more than 15 energy (5 energy by monster).
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I am a mid-late game player and i just realised that I have been making 6*s the long ass way. Thanks Jewbagel.
What I learned is when I started I only focused on making 6* mons even if I needed to feed nat4s anyway that was years ago. My point is that when you have a decent amount 10-16 of 6* mons you wont feel the need to feed nat4 and just save them in storage. The gam gets more easy and fun if you save them and build them later.
Dude this was super helpful!! I’ve been playin this game for 5 years and been off and on this game a lot but do love it. I always had trouble making six stars and didn’t have enough time but now I’m seeing this and seeing how the process goes, I can finally six star easily!! I’m a free-to-play player and it’s a struggle but thank you so much for this, I really needed it. THANK YOU!! Ps: i love watching your vids, always learn from you and love the humor
I'm not sure if anyone has done the actual calculations here... but I did. IMO, farming necro give me the most scrolls, so I build up 100-200 blue scrolls and 12 dim. crystals first, buy all 2 star silver monsters, in prep. When the next day after you have 12 dim crystals, you buy the exp booster, and light it. Summon ALL your scrolls. Take your farmer and 3 one stars into Faimon lvl 1 hell. It takes 3 rounds through to max your 1 stars. I usually run 21 1 stars to max before evolving them to 2 stars, and then go again. Keep doing it until all our 1 stars are evolved into 2 stars. Next, run your two stars through faimon. It takes 6 rounds to max them. Easy peasy. Once you have 24 two stars you can evolve them to be three stars. Keep in mind, out of 200 scrolls you'll get plenty of two stars and a couple three stars as well so this speed up the process. You might end up with 48 three star monsters out of this run at the end. Anyways, once you have 24 two stars, evolve them into eight three star monsters. Now, you can run them through faimon, but a quicker one is Dim. Rift on HARD. Take your farming unit and FOUR three stars. The calculation is simple. Each time through the Dim. Rift gives your monsters 4x the exp of a normal run in faimon. So with the exp boost, 1 stars would get maxed on one run. two stars would almost get maxed on one run. Three stars would Normally take twelve runs through faimon, OR (divide 12 by 4) THREE runs through the Dim, rift to max. with 12 dim. crystals, you can run four sets of 4 three stars (with your farmer) through there to max them, and then collect your next three dim crystals and do it again. That is 5 sets of three runs each, 4 monsters per, for a total of 20 four stars. You should hopefully have a couple 4 star maxed rainbowmons sitting ready to go. with 20 four star fodder, you'll make 4 FIVE STARS ready for consumption. Since you can get back up to 12 dim. crystals (or just buy them to recharge quick) you can run up 5 stars like this super fast. I've made three six star monsters in a single day using this method. Find me on SW Kiwigigavolt
And my farmer is, and always has been, Lapis. The freebie for noobs. Anyone can do this. Rune him early for vampire revenge with Hp%/Def%/Def% so he can survive and whittle the dogs down. You don't want him dying constantly. As you farm, you get better runes and can rune Lapis for better damage, eventually you go with Atk%/Atk%/Hp% with speed substats, Revenge Vampire keeps him hitting hard and never dying. As a noob, you can easily get Lapis to 6 star and then six star the rest of your units as you get them, using the method above. And according to the calculations, it is more efficient evolving one stars, rather than feeding them to a 2 star who's gone through Dim. RIft once. Dim Crystals should be used to max out your 3 stars to turn into 4 stars and feed your 4 star maxed rainbows to make 5 stars. Remember kids, always drink your Ovaltine! AND always buy your 5 star rainbows and devilmons!
Hey Bagel, I have some information regarding whether or not it's more efficient to run Faimon or Dimensional Rift for the purposes of leveling up food: 1 Star: I know you said you feed them to finish up your 2 stars, but that's pretty inefficient, as you'll see below. 15 Energy to max 3 of these (5 Energy per Monster) without using a Rep in Faimon 1 Hell. Don't bother with Rift. 2 Star: 25 Energy to max 3 of these (~8.3 Energy per) in Faimon if every run uses a Rep (5 total). You can use as few as 2 Reps to max 3 for 30 energy (10 per). 35 Energy if you don't use Reps at all (~12.3 per). It only takes two non-Rep runs of 2 monsters each in addition to a Rift run to max 4 monsters at a total cost of 40 Energy (10 per). This means that if you can't or won't use 5 Reps per group in Faimon, Rift farming is at least as efficient, if not more so, than Faimon. 3 Star: For those of us who have a shortage of max 3 star angelmon. Lowest possible cost is 60 Energy for 3 Monsters (20 per) using 11 Reps and one additional run. The next break point is 65 Energy (~21.7 per) using 7 Reps and 6 additional runs. Anything fewer than 7 Reps will cost at least 70 Energy (~23.3 per) and be less Energy efficient than the 90 Energy (22.5 per) required if using the Dimensional Rift (2 Rift runs, 2 2-monster Rep Runs & 4 2-monster additional runs in Faimon). So to summarize: due to the low number of Reps required to max a group of monsters when running Dimensional Rifts, it can actually be argued to be *_the most_* efficient way to farm. Either way, it's still more efficient than Faimon runs without using Reps.
@base none once you get going in the game those summons are irrelevant. I currently have over 6k unknown scrolls and I know people with way more. Energy way more worth it
My issue is always not wanting to sacrifice my 5 star mons to make 6 star ones because I messed up and lost some really good ones that way in the beginning. *insert face palm*. So this was helpful. Lol. Wish I watched it sooner. 😭
Ty so so much bc it takes me so long to 6* my mons. I’ve been playing like 500 days & I only have 9 six star monsters... Also can u do a new rune video on how u pick the best runes? Bc with this great event going on I don’t know how to pick the better runes. Thx!
Summon all my unknown scrolls buy all silver 2s, level the 1s and 2s and evolve them, use them to evolve 3* rainbows which i use to evolve 4* rainbows The 1* level is not a complete waste ever since the xp buff
I think I remember you doing a similar video like this a long time ago.. but I'm sure you had to do it. since not everyone can keep it :) the video is a great help to any new player. I have been upgrading 2* I get from farming then I just max them and make them 3 star and use y 3* max rainbowmon on them then use the 4* one and boom. I have my 6 star ready.. I have 6 stared two monsters this past month.. the wind cannon girl and water bomber. they are both amazing.. im stumped on deciding who my next 6 star will be.. fire pioneer or dark lich.. what do you all think?
You can also time to pop the exp booster after 12 pm so that you can get another 3 demensional cubes and friend rep refresh. This way you can 6 star your monster and maxx level 40 it in 1 session.
I pretty much do this method, but the only thing I change is instead of wasting so many 1* for the lvl 18’s. I take those into scenario 1 time and then you only need 2 of the 1* to max your 2*
I always buy all of the mons and scroll at the magic shop. Mana is fairly easy to come by and I can always feed someone if I have too many mons. Disclaimer though, I've had my account for years, but i'm no pro and certainly not hardcore.
Been playing for almost a week now, im just torn where/how to get 4* to feed and lvl up my newly gotten monster, Loren, since game stopped giving away free stuff lol. Goooooood stuff!! Ngl, i think i'm semi-addicted to the game now.
1 and 2* monsters need less exp to level up. So if you don’t have the rainbow mon they are more efficient to lvl up to 5* to make 6* mons. So it’s actually better to feed trash nat 3* as fodder than it is to feed the leveled up nat 2*
Great guide, I do the dimensional rifts farming like that, but I use my rep mon once on Faimon hell to finish of max lvling 2* Also always store energy few days prior before XP boosting. 300 energy for 10 dimensional rifts. And enable XP boost hour or 2 after account refresh so you can use your friends mons twice on a 12hr XP boost.
I suggest if your early on make sure that what your feeding is not like super good because I remember when I first started I feed not for evolution by the way a water demon
Use 1 farmer and 3 2star mons in dimensional rift (4 total). The 2stars will max out without wasting exp. The exp they earn is exactly the exp they need to max out.
Bad technique feeding one stars. For the level 18 2 stars, go to tamor 3 and use a friends rep monster and it will instantly go to 20 in one run (3 at a time)
You don't need a friend's rep, you can do it with your own rep in one run. I did it in the video in one run with my own rep. I feed the 1-stars because I'm not going to farm with 1-star foods, it adds a lot more time. Again you can do it your own way if you have and want to spend more time on making 6-stars but I need to get it over FAST and go back to farming dungeons. I literally did both ways in the video, using 1-stars as food, and finishing the xp for the 2-stars in one run in faimon. The point isn't to spend all day in scenario, the point is to get it done as fast as possible while still being somewhat efficient so that you can go back to farming runes.
I’ve played this game on and off for years and I really like it other than the fact that they charge out the ass to even have a hope of a chance to get some good shit. I don’t mind the fact they’re rare it’s what makes the game fun, its just unreal how much they charge and it’s not even a for sure thing
Try out kingdom of heros tactic wars. They give you a nat4 Dark mage. Nat5 selector and a nat4 selector within 30 mins of playing. Way more f2p than SW.
Also, worth noting that if you have a shiny new monster you would like to 6* and it is already at 5* MAX... You will get an XP booster immediately from 6*ing that monster, that you can then pop. I can't count the number of time I scrounged around for an XP booster, 6*ed a unit, then realized that ****, I could have just 6*ed the unit and used the reward XP booster.
I would save silver 2* monsters, lvl a bunch of them to sit at 3* lvl1. Take 3* max rainbowmons, feed them the 3* silvers, let the 4* rainbows sit st lvl1. Take the maxed 4* rainbows that were farmed, make them 5* lvl1 and then eat those with my monsters to 6*. If I have space and time, I would build up some silver 4 stars. Even the silvers and use those if I run out of rainbows. Just use those silvers or dupes to close the gap.
So on any farm inst if your level monsters for sat nat 5 is it better to pick 1 max level and the one your leveling or can you level too a total of 3 plus your max and get the same xp or would you get more with just 1 level max and the low level monster?
should we also buy unknown scrolls? if we get 2 or 3 stars it speeds up the processfor evolution and if we get 1 star we use it to feed to the ones that need to be topped off in order to be evolved?
what I do is I'm Farm XP with my rep to level five, then I use a rainbowmon to get it to level 18 or 20 cuz usually it'll only get it to 15 or even 12 if it's a Nat 5. then I'll use my rep again to level 25 use a friend's rep to lvl 30 then take them through dimensional rift.
Aiden gives you 2* lvl 7 monsters, run one dimensional and it is already maxed, if you have a good wind farmer, Aiden seems like a better option
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I have an old video on my channel of the best XP farming locations. I'm going to be making a new one soon to update it
@@SchizophrenicGamer Doesn't Faimon give the most money though? If we compare the price from rune drops of Faimon/Aiden? I thought that's why people did Faimon...
Btw, for any new players out there, you might want to do Faimon because of the Inugami drops, especially given the fact that you are probably going to need a lot of skill ups for Kro/Raoq/Bella second awakening.
Schizophrenic Gamer I thought people did faimon because of the energy drops that you could get from faimon for the energy spent on farming along with the inigami, mana, etc.
i think the reason why faimon is much popular because of how fast you can clear it and there's 2 nat3s (inugami and salamander) meaning much higher chance to drop
if you listened to him about saving at least 1 water joker for later, now you have a bomber :D
This was amazing, thank you! I find the game has really evolved since 2014. I started a new account and find this game a lot more user friendly. New missions are very rewarding and teach you how to play the game. Better descriptions in tutorials as well.
1 hour and 45 minutes = 2 new six stars
The strategy
1) EXP boost and dimension crystals
2) Have a farmer and fodder -> 2 star silver from shop, unknown, scenarios, social summons.
3) hit dimension -> 2 star will go up to level 18 off of 1 run (with 1 farmer and 4 monsters that are two star)
4) Use social and unknown to get fodder from 2 star to 3 star. Use 1 star to get them from level 18 to 20.
5) Evolve rainbowmon from 3 star to 4 star and feed to awakened 3 star (fake 4) and max 4 star rainbow.
Advice
- Farm 3 star rainbowmon from rift (hard to do early game). Look towards TOA and events.
- Do not get lazy. Do not feed natural born 4 star. Save your NB4 for skill ups and perhaps buffs.
- Use awakened 3 star (fake 4 star) as main fodder.
Once again, well thought out strategy. I will definitely be using this at my current alt stage. Thank you!
For real tho!! I recently downloaded SW & haven’t played since like 9th grade.
“Save a water Joker you never know it may get a buff...” bruh
Did it get a buff?
Sage Arviso yea it has bombs for its S2 now
@@sagearviso1979 He calls it a Blushen in later video because of the buff lol
Daqsun ok 😂 but what was the buff 😞
@@sagearviso1979 he literally just said what it was. His skill 2 is a bomb now.
Crazy how I didn’t need this video at all yet I still learned something in it.. good stuff bagel!
Same :D
im at a stage where i dont even have unknown scrolls so every 1* counts lol. heres a few tips i can give:
1. 1 dimensional hole + 1 faimon hell run (nonrep) gives exactly enough exp needed to max 2*s
2. 3 faimon hell runs (nonrep) gives exactly enough exp to max 1*
3. when i lack 3* maxed rainbowmons, give 3* monsters 2 maxed angelmon (for a chance of 1.5 multiplier) + 1 maxed angelmon (if no lightning), its just nice to max it
4. when i lack 4* maxed rainbowmons, just make 4 maxed 4* monsters with dimensional hole during double exp, it takes 6 runs + 1 faimon hell
5. you can stock up to 12 dimensional crystals (if you have 9 and collect 3 you will have 12)
6. if youre popping an exp booster (12 hr), do it before your day reset time so you get a total of 18 dimensional crystals. 12 stocked, 3 from day 1 mission, 3 from day 2 mission.
7. use friends rep when you can (but not when you're close to max level)
just keep making 3*s and when you dont have exp booster on farm runes. you will have a good balance of 3* max rainbowmons and food to make them 4* (casual play)
wait what type of demonsional hole, the forest or remains
You should have unknown scrolls. If you dont, you're playing very wrong and should probably just uninstall
ᄋᄉᄋ you would be surprised, early game rushing a bunch of six stars without a source of mystical scrolls is very draining and you run out very quickly
@@icecold4411 bro I'm early game and it's pretty easy as long as you have 2 stars and a faimon farmer (friend reps are even better but they're harder to get)
ᄋᄉᄋ Really? In my run I had like 200 unknowns, summoned all and fed none of them (only for evolution) got 2 six stars and went broke for the next few days on unknowns. Guessing I must have been unlucky lol
Good guide. I make my 6* similar way, but I level up these 1* and make them 2* to evolve max 2*. But as you said, no way is wrong :)
Sweet same here but i buy every monster in the shop i summon every scroll even stones wen im farming giants dragons necro i get that mana to pay for it than once a week i pop the exp booster lvl up make 6 star than wit that exp booster the game gives u for first six star u use it untill its time is up
I’m gonna be 100% with you when I first started off I felt so desperate to 6* things that I even started to feed l/d nat 4s that weren’t considered OP even started feeding units that I had already 5* but didn’t use lol
Same I fused an awakened fire anubis we in it together
I used a dupe nat 5 before now i regret it cause i aint got ancient xtals
when youre doing shop refreshes, you should grab the unknown scrolls too. theyre a third of the cost of silver 2 stars and theres a chance of getting 2s from them
If you use a Friends Rep mon with 3 lv 18 2*, they will be maxed after 1 faimon run.
If you use your own rep, and take 2 lv 18 2* they will be maxed after 1 Faimon run.
Using your own rep with 3 lv 18 2*, it'll take two Faimon runs.
After you use 12 Dimensional Rift Crystals, you'll have 48 2* mon at lv 18. This will only take 16 friend reps to max all of them, VS 32 runs with your own *if you are bringing 3 mons + your mon for each run.
Why aren't you teaching them to use friend's reps for farming scenerio before using one of their own? Using your own farmer is a waste of an opportunity for more exp. Also, early game takes a long time to save up those 3*and 4* rainbowmon when you're a noob. That takes like a month at least to 6* 1 unit. You can turn those silver 2* into 5* very easily and 6* something at least once a week if you are focused, also why feed 1* when you can get them to 15 on a single run through dimensional with an exp boost? That's food for those 2 stars you're spending mana on in the shop. F2P can't afford to waste resources like that.
bec everyone is doing that
Bagel has mentioned this in other videos (and in replies to comments on this one), but he believes leveling 1 star mons is inefficient. With that one rift run with double xp, you can get a 2* mon to lv 18 and then just feed the one stars to the 2* mon. Bagel believes that this is the best use for them. I personally have been known to level up a 1* or two, but I try not to use the rift for them since regular scenario runs level them up pretty fast anyway. When you're low on resources and don't have a lot of unknown scrolls (which seems to happen to me every time I use double xp regardless of how many I have before starting) you can take the 2* mons into the rift and then level your 1* mons alongside the 2* mons when you do the runs to get that last little bit of xp for them.
@@HungerTheLetsPLay when leveling a 2* mon that's at 18, I use one of my lower level friend's reps that may not be able to clear a scenerio stage, but will yield enough exp to get them to 20. That not only helps me, but also a lower level player who rarely gets the social points from others using their low level reps.
For someone with his experience and payed accounts 1*s might be inefficient when evolving his stockpile of rainbowmons, but for early/new players wasting mana on 2*s is not possible because you don't have 1million mana laying around (you're spending it to power up your runes so you can make it through dungeons and arena), and waiting a month or more to 6* each unit. F2P new/early players need to make the most of their resources. Bagel said that's who this video is for. I didn't read the comments, I watched the video to see if he was using a better method so I could share it as an alternative with low level guild mates and mentees who ask for advice. I left my comment to help other newer players who came to this video thinking they would get a method of 6* more frequently rather than just a method to 6* in an hour or so after first saving up rainbowmon for a month or more. I 6* about once a week using 1* and 2* fodder rather than waiting for rainbowmons. The rainbowmon method works, it's just not the most efficient way because overall it takes longer to aquire the rainbowmon than it would to just 5* silver* fodder. You are cool with saving up rainbowmon. Cool. I'm interested in helping newer players 6* 4 units a month rather than maybe 1.
@@kzharlz not everyone. I've had to explain it to 3 new guild mates and 1 mentee this weekend alone. He said he made the video with newer players in mind.
What are you going to do if your friend replaces that godlike Lapis or Verad with a new flex pull like a Fermion?
good info man appreciate it
broo u play this game damn u rly are everywhere
That you for this video Bagel. Top notch as always!
Ty for the video!!
--- > Bagel can you do a tutorial for LAB HELL stages : Rescue , speed stage , bosses , cooldown time up. It would help new/mid players like me.
---> Thank you and good work!!
I second this!
"easiest way to create 6*s"
"be able to score S in rift beasts."
What?
Hizykus you can still get the xp boost from a few days of casual gem saving
Farming runes will get you the rainbowmon you need and the runes you need to score S in rift beasts win-win
When I'm low on rainbowmons in storage after 6*ing some things I use my dimensional crystals to level 1*s, if you take in 4 1*s no exp booster they go straight to lvl 14. Since you cant save up more than 12 dimensional crystals anyway I use them that way every day for a few weeks and then will start saving them a few days before I plan to pop exp boosts. I don't think feeding 1*s is a bad approach but I don't seem to find Unknown scrolls nearly as often anymore I used to have thousands, now I average between 200-300 and then it dips down after I 6*.
I really liked the idea of buying silver 2*s. I'm going to do that more from now on.
Hi bagel, this needs to be updated due to the recent update, we cannot use this strategy anymore. TYSM 😊
"no! I used this to make a 5 star!"
Story of my life right there lol
I used to do that, but now that I actually have 1500+ unknown scrolls I don't need to anymore. I should cause I know have like 200 useless nat 4s that even if they are buffed to godly levels I will never use.
My hole life in this game is now going to be a heck of a lot easier now!
2 in an hour and fourt five minutes seems bloody good.
if no saved rainbowmons it's probably 4 extra hours lol
damn im back into summoners war and i clicked on this vid and and you got 231k instead of 123k the last time i watched, i used to watch you so much XD
Thanks again for posting...Love you from the beginning glad to see the evaluation from you “taking sips from star bucks cups and talking not just about the game, but also about how you met these wrestlers’ and living in Vegas and funny skits with a helmet ⛑ as well as hot Asian chicks back up your laughter in your bedroom lol we love you and we are glad to see you have grown a craft and honed it lol 😂 your the best schizophrenic gamer🤩
I never watched this guy before and he's doing what I do because I don't spend money on this game
I've done that the following mentions but buying silver two stars from shop? Never thought of that. Thanks for the tip Bagel:)
Omg I just noticed the first song in the background
Glow'ed up by Goblin on mars x Ryan oaks literally one of my favorite chill songs to just listen to when idk what to do.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG
Thanks for this! I definitely struggle to 6* mons, even when I am midgame, though f2p, so, yeah. This will certainly help me.
really good video, keep up the great work bagel!
Been wanting to know this forever, I suffer from this.
Bless your soul Begal
Me: spends 4,000 energy trying to 6* one mon 3 days ago
JewBagel: releases this video
Me: >:|
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I spent around 2000 Crystals buying energy updating 1 star
Dont forget to buy silver 2* and 1* and unknown scrolls.
When I got bored I just started foddering everything from velajuel doops to zaiross doops I just stopped caring anymore then I eventually quit and started epic 7. Recently tried this game again and got bored instantly
If u spend any more than 100 energy during 6 star process you should probably listen to more of what jewbagel has to offer.
as a F2P player, for 5* monsters i like to use diablemon that i let passively lvling to 4* max in lvling storage like Practice Battle Field . Then i 5* them with food and food them to the 5* monster to get to 6* and with the bonus of 5 skillups at the same time.
Try this instead when doing dimensional rift: one farmer + (3) 2* mons OR one farmer + (4) 1* star mons on HARD difficulty. they will max out on 1 completion. its just a lot cleaner and less of a headache than leveling (4) 2* mons to 19, then leveling (3) of them to level 20, then the last to 20 lol.
at last, we waited 3 fu***** years for this!!
i been doing this almost 4years now XD
coz i never spend.
To max 2* you need 1 run in Rift (4 monsters + farmer) and 1 run in Faimon Hell(3 monsters + farmer) using your farmer. So, to max 12 2* you need no more than 30*3 + 5*4 = 110 energy (about 9 energy by monster).
To max 1* you need 3 runs in Faimon Hell using you farmer (3 monsters + farmer). So, to get 3 max 1* monsters you need no more than 15 energy (5 energy by monster).
I am a mid-late game player and i just realised that I have been making 6*s the long ass way. Thanks Jewbagel.
Thanks bro just started playing yesterday this video really helped me out ❤
I feel stupid now, but this will make things so much easier. I ran out of rainbowmons a while ago and I use my lagmaron for dimensional rift.
What I learned is when I started I only focused on making 6* mons even if I needed to feed nat4s anyway that was years ago.
My point is that when you have a decent amount 10-16 of 6* mons you wont feel the need to feed nat4 and just save them in storage. The gam gets more easy and fun if you save them and build them later.
I always needed this omg thxs for this guide I always trying to find the easy way but couldn’t find it till now thank you
Running the DH with 2xp making 2* lvl 18 was news to me, thanks!
I keep preaching this method "Begjhel used to say it all the time during streams!" Ty for putting it on video so I can just post it now :-D
Great music for the background of this video. Very helpful material! Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
That save at least 1 water joker aged well, blushion ftw!
Dude this was super helpful!! I’ve been playin this game for 5 years and been off and on this game a lot but do love it. I always had trouble making six stars and didn’t have enough time but now I’m seeing this and seeing how the process goes, I can finally six star easily!! I’m a free-to-play player and it’s a struggle but thank you so much for this, I really needed it. THANK YOU!!
Ps: i love watching your vids, always learn from you and love the humor
exactly what i was looking for ,thank you :D
I'm not sure if anyone has done the actual calculations here... but I did. IMO, farming necro give me the most scrolls, so I build up 100-200 blue scrolls and 12 dim. crystals first, buy all 2 star silver monsters, in prep. When the next day after you have 12 dim crystals, you buy the exp booster, and light it. Summon ALL your scrolls. Take your farmer and 3 one stars into Faimon lvl 1 hell. It takes 3 rounds through to max your 1 stars. I usually run 21 1 stars to max before evolving them to 2 stars, and then go again. Keep doing it until all our 1 stars are evolved into 2 stars. Next, run your two stars through faimon. It takes 6 rounds to max them. Easy peasy. Once you have 24 two stars you can evolve them to be three stars. Keep in mind, out of 200 scrolls you'll get plenty of two stars and a couple three stars as well so this speed up the process. You might end up with 48 three star monsters out of this run at the end. Anyways, once you have 24 two stars, evolve them into eight three star monsters. Now, you can run them through faimon, but a quicker one is Dim. Rift on HARD. Take your farming unit and FOUR three stars. The calculation is simple. Each time through the Dim. Rift gives your monsters 4x the exp of a normal run in faimon. So with the exp boost, 1 stars would get maxed on one run. two stars would almost get maxed on one run. Three stars would Normally take twelve runs through faimon, OR (divide 12 by 4) THREE runs through the Dim, rift to max. with 12 dim. crystals, you can run four sets of 4 three stars (with your farmer) through there to max them, and then collect your next three dim crystals and do it again. That is 5 sets of three runs each, 4 monsters per, for a total of 20 four stars. You should hopefully have a couple 4 star maxed rainbowmons sitting ready to go. with 20 four star fodder, you'll make 4 FIVE STARS ready for consumption. Since you can get back up to 12 dim. crystals (or just buy them to recharge quick) you can run up 5 stars like this super fast. I've made three six star monsters in a single day using this method. Find me on SW Kiwigigavolt
And my farmer is, and always has been, Lapis. The freebie for noobs. Anyone can do this. Rune him early for vampire revenge with Hp%/Def%/Def% so he can survive and whittle the dogs down. You don't want him dying constantly. As you farm, you get better runes and can rune Lapis for better damage, eventually you go with Atk%/Atk%/Hp% with speed substats, Revenge Vampire keeps him hitting hard and never dying. As a noob, you can easily get Lapis to 6 star and then six star the rest of your units as you get them, using the method above. And according to the calculations, it is more efficient evolving one stars, rather than feeding them to a 2 star who's gone through Dim. RIft once. Dim Crystals should be used to max out your 3 stars to turn into 4 stars and feed your 4 star maxed rainbows to make 5 stars. Remember kids, always drink your Ovaltine! AND always buy your 5 star rainbows and devilmons!
Hey Bagel, I have some information regarding whether or not it's more efficient to run Faimon or Dimensional Rift for the purposes of leveling up food:
1 Star: I know you said you feed them to finish up your 2 stars, but that's pretty inefficient, as you'll see below. 15 Energy to max 3 of these (5 Energy per Monster) without using a Rep in Faimon 1 Hell. Don't bother with Rift.
2 Star: 25 Energy to max 3 of these (~8.3 Energy per) in Faimon if every run uses a Rep (5 total). You can use as few as 2 Reps to max 3 for 30 energy (10 per). 35 Energy if you don't use Reps at all (~12.3 per). It only takes two non-Rep runs of 2 monsters each in addition to a Rift run to max 4 monsters at a total cost of 40 Energy (10 per). This means that if you can't or won't use 5 Reps per group in Faimon, Rift farming is at least as efficient, if not more so, than Faimon.
3 Star: For those of us who have a shortage of max 3 star angelmon. Lowest possible cost is 60 Energy for 3 Monsters (20 per) using 11 Reps and one additional run. The next break point is 65 Energy (~21.7 per) using 7 Reps and 6 additional runs. Anything fewer than 7 Reps will cost at least 70 Energy (~23.3 per) and be less Energy efficient than the 90 Energy (22.5 per) required if using the Dimensional Rift (2 Rift runs, 2 2-monster Rep Runs & 4 2-monster additional runs in Faimon).
So to summarize: due to the low number of Reps required to max a group of monsters when running Dimensional Rifts, it can actually be argued to be *_the most_* efficient way to farm. Either way, it's still more efficient than Faimon runs without using Reps.
For free to play-ish players i think its bad to summon your social points, the 3k points that were summoned would give 120 energy.
base none later on crystals for energy = the number one objective
@base none once you get going in the game those summons are irrelevant. I currently have over 6k unknown scrolls and I know people with way more. Energy way more worth it
My issue is always not wanting to sacrifice my 5 star mons to make 6 star ones because I messed up and lost some really good ones that way in the beginning. *insert face palm*. So this was helpful. Lol. Wish I watched it sooner. 😭
Ty so so much bc it takes me so long to 6* my mons. I’ve been playing like 500 days & I only have 9 six star monsters... Also can u do a new rune video on how u pick the best runes? Bc with this great event going on I don’t know how to pick the better runes. Thx!
Summon all my unknown scrolls buy all silver 2s, level the 1s and 2s and evolve them, use them to evolve 3* rainbows which i use to evolve 4* rainbows
The 1* level is not a complete waste ever since the xp buff
Which exp buff?
Sanjay Venkatesh in 5.0.8 they buffed the xp in all scenarios by 1.5 times
It wasnt a waste even beforehand lol
I don't care in which stage of the game I am, I still enjoy watching your videos! ^^
I think I remember you doing a similar video like this a long time ago.. but I'm sure you had to do it. since not everyone can keep it :) the video is a great help to any new player. I have been upgrading 2* I get from farming then I just max them and make them 3 star and use y 3* max rainbowmon on them then use the 4* one and boom. I have my 6 star ready.. I have 6 stared two monsters this past month.. the wind cannon girl and water bomber. they are both amazing.. im stumped on deciding who my next 6 star will be.. fire pioneer or dark lich.. what do you all think?
You can also time to pop the exp booster after 12 pm so that you can get another 3 demensional cubes and friend rep refresh. This way you can 6 star your monster and maxx level 40 it in 1 session.
I pretty much do this method, but the only thing I change is instead of wasting so many 1* for the lvl 18’s. I take those into scenario 1 time and then you only need 2 of the 1* to max your 2*
I really enjoy your Guides and Vid's.. But I hate it, that the music is way to loud compared to voice :x
I always buy all of the mons and scroll at the magic shop. Mana is fairly easy to come by and I can always feed someone if I have too many mons. Disclaimer though, I've had my account for years, but i'm no pro and certainly not hardcore.
Been playing for almost a week now, im just torn where/how to get 4* to feed and lvl up my newly gotten monster, Loren, since game stopped giving away free stuff lol. Goooooood stuff!!
Ngl, i think i'm semi-addicted to the game now.
Appreciate the info. Really helpful as new player.
1 and 2* monsters need less exp to level up. So if you don’t have the rainbow mon they are more efficient to lvl up to 5* to make 6* mons. So it’s actually better to feed trash nat 3* as fodder than it is to feed the leveled up nat 2*
Great guide, I do the dimensional rifts farming like that, but I use my rep mon once on Faimon hell to finish of max lvling 2*
Also always store energy few days prior before XP boosting. 300 energy for 10 dimensional rifts.
And enable XP boost hour or 2 after account refresh so you can use your friends mons twice on a 12hr XP boost.
I have been waiting for this updated Video. this helped me soooo much. thank you keep up the awesome work
This is how I do it too. I didn't realize this is the best way to do it. Also you get money for runes and to buy 2*s for level ups.
Great video bagel
This was very helpful you should do more videos like this
*You are my Savior*
*Thanks for making this wonderful game grow, by helping us Newbies. =)*
7:11 i made 5* 5 horned frogs xD
I suggest if your early on make sure that what your feeding is not like super good because I remember when I first started I feed not for evolution by the way a water demon
Use 1 farmer and 3 2star mons in dimensional rift (4 total). The 2stars will max out without wasting exp. The exp they earn is exactly the exp they need to max out.
me: uses most of my nat 4s to make a 6 star
Now I know this info it will save me a lot of time and effort
Bad technique feeding one stars. For the level 18 2 stars, go to tamor 3 and use a friends rep monster and it will instantly go to 20 in one run (3 at a time)
Good Tip, thx :)
Thats how i do it too lol
i think he runs this strategy because he has too many scrolls ^^ when you dont have too many scrolls your strategy is better, yeah
@@flippyboy1537 wastes energy
You don't need a friend's rep, you can do it with your own rep in one run. I did it in the video in one run with my own rep. I feed the 1-stars because I'm not going to farm with 1-star foods, it adds a lot more time. Again you can do it your own way if you have and want to spend more time on making 6-stars but I need to get it over FAST and go back to farming dungeons. I literally did both ways in the video, using 1-stars as food, and finishing the xp for the 2-stars in one run in faimon. The point isn't to spend all day in scenario, the point is to get it done as fast as possible while still being somewhat efficient so that you can go back to farming runes.
Awesome video man! Thanks very much!xx
I’ve played this game on and off for years and I really like it other than the fact that they charge out the ass to even have a hope of a chance to get some good shit. I don’t mind the fact they’re rare it’s what makes the game fun, its just unreal how much they charge and it’s not even a for sure thing
Try out kingdom of heros tactic wars. They give you a nat4 Dark mage. Nat5 selector and a nat4 selector within 30 mins of playing. Way more f2p than SW.
Very helpful and informative vid thanks bagel
Also, worth noting that if you have a shiny new monster you would like to 6* and it is already at 5* MAX...
You will get an XP booster immediately from 6*ing that monster, that you can then pop.
I can't count the number of time I scrounged around for an XP booster, 6*ed a unit, then realized that ****, I could have just 6*ed the unit and used the reward XP booster.
@jewbagel you burned 300 crystals just to refresh shop? but isn't refilling energy more efficient ?
I usually hold onto any 4*s I get. Dupes however only after I've maxed the original.
I would save silver 2* monsters, lvl a bunch of them to sit at 3* lvl1. Take 3* max rainbowmons, feed them the 3* silvers, let the 4* rainbows sit st lvl1. Take the maxed 4* rainbows that were farmed, make them 5* lvl1 and then eat those with my monsters to 6*.
If I have space and time, I would build up some silver 4 stars. Even the silvers and use those if I run out of rainbows. Just use those silvers or dupes to close the gap.
Always love ya vids bagel xoxo
It is good for early players but for people like me its kinda already known. Anyways I love the sponge bob in the background lol
"Rainbowmons"
English subtitles:
*Rainbowmoms*
Need an update please, bagel
This man really predicted blueshen buff
Thanks so much for making this video. Wish I could have benefited from it about 3 months ago though.
Related to this I want to ask if it's worth to craft the lvl30 max rainbowmons from the craft building
Looked at that myself and doesn't look like it as you have to feed rainbowmons to craft one
Remember you can craft max 3* rainbowmons in the crafting building with all the default 3* you get
big fan ty so muchh needed this
Thank you Mr. Bagel
i like to add mentors/friends with rica as their rep because she can farm chiruka pretty fast haha
So on any farm inst if your level monsters for sat nat 5 is it better to pick 1 max level and the one your leveling or can you level too a total of 3 plus your max and get the same xp or would you get more with just 1 level max and the low level monster?
should we also buy unknown scrolls? if we get 2 or 3 stars it speeds up the processfor evolution and if we get 1 star we use it to feed to the ones that need to be topped off in order to be evolved?
what I do is I'm Farm XP with my rep to level five, then I use a rainbowmon to get it to level 18 or 20 cuz usually it'll only get it to 15 or even 12 if it's a Nat 5. then I'll use my rep again to level 25 use a friend's rep to lvl 30 then take them through dimensional rift.
Btw, when you are farming faimon for exp, if you use a friend one as farmer it gives you more experience than using one of your property... 👍
Did you delete a video this morning? Could of sworn i saw a video from you last night, saved it to watch today, and it's gone.
Could you please make a detailed guide on Labyrinth ?
Thanks for sharing the bagelknowledge ❤️
Actually after the exp gain got readjusted I did that math and dimensional hole now gives more exp per energy used
Rainbowmons, i get tons of those at DB2 - no joke, like 2-3 of them each 10 runs.