@@totallyawesomeusername9307 it is, every unit in the game has a 15% chance to resist a debuff no matter what, so 85 is the maximum accuracy you can have on a unit, anything above that is just a waste.
Dont agree with the 1st one as I've had mons miss important debuffs on rift beasts which hampered my scores multiple times and that's with 20-30% acc. They are decent now though.
I think on rift beasts it also was 15%, but yeah everything else is perfect (even included the gb12 midboss lolz) But if this dude named Shizophrenic Gamer goes on with giving such blatantly wrong info about his team like no skill ups needed or 100% acc needed im going to unsub him... aswell as abigail does the job of lapis A LOT better since she strips and lapis doesnt
as a mid-game player, this was something that was very frustrating for me. I've found that most of these large sw content creators are actually terrible at making teams for new players. They never consider rune quality, skill ups, towers, etc. They use their high quality runes and only focus on making a team purely for the mechanics of a monster, only when it is fully skilled up, has specific stats, etc. It is baffling, really.
(Commenting on the description) If you're at the point in the game where you can't make a water homunculus, you're also probably not ready for db12 anyway. And just to clarify, it doesn't work the same the other way, just because you have a water homunculus doesn't mean you are ready for db12.
The only problem with that team is that my Loren refuses to strip when the boss gets immunity, legit everytime she violate procs gets 5 turns and not once does she decide to strip
Cant thank you enough bagey. Ive been 6 staring all monster that i could to auto db12 and none succeed. When I watch this video I was like ' argh another 6 star wasted'. But turn out 2.30 minutes run with no fail. I know 2.30 is not that much but man, seeing 10/10 on auto db12 makes me feel like progressing. I tweak your team a little bit. Verde (L), Loren, Water Homun ( All lower skills), lapis, 2a Spectra with no skill up.
PSA: You should not have 100% acc on your monsters, 85% is the cap. For dragons, 65% is the cap and anything over that is a waste. Skill 3 acc artifact for spectra seriously decreases the rune requirement. If you can, put Spectra on violent, it will improve your run consistency. Swift is pointless on her (in dragons, not in general) because she has to be slower than Loren and she has insane base speed. Having Swift with slot 2 attack is fine, but not ideal because her damage comes from crit dmg, not attack. The more she spams skill 2, the faster your run, and the more she spams skill 3, the safer it is. If you can't do Violent, use some combination of Blade and Focus runes to get 100% cr and 65% acc, use a HP slot 6 and try to get as much crit dmg from subs.
Correction: Spectra's Skill 2 is 350% of the ATK stat and 18% of the enemy's HP. CD is more effective than ATK, but it's still used. Her Skill 1 is speed and ATK based, but that's not as important. Spectra is great to use Swift runes with DMG substats and no speed. These would be trash runes for most other units, but Spectra only needs +74 speed to be 200 total speed before towers and speed lead. 42 speed from Slot 2 and 25 from Swift set is already +67. Since so many mons require Vio runes (especially for the new content), using "trash" swift for Spectra would be beneficial for a good portion of the playerbase.
I have been using the light Ifrit as tank + precision for dragon b12. I love him. He's stealing buffs non-stop. I use Loren, light Ifrit, Kro, Fran, Sigmarus and verdehile as leader. I usually get 9 out of 10 times on dragon b12.
Tyrone is another good option. I run Verde, Loren, Tyrone, Kro, Taor - 2:00 avg runs and 99% win rate (I've only failed once or twice since autofarming came out) My Taor is also 65% acc, so that helps
Great video, very helpul, wish we had you doing vids for heir of light, we literally have nobody doing videos on late game stratagies. Its an open market for gameplay help.
A good F2P replacement (makes run faster) for Loren is light homunculus. Purification (strip), Accelerate (heal + atb boost), and Rock On (team up + atk buff) build.
I like using Elsharion. I haven’t skilled mine up at all, but he already steals the immunity for my whole team more often than my Bella or Loren actually strips it off. And they are either mostly or fully skilled up. His passive enables him to steal beneficial effects with any of his abilities, and that makes his strip/steal more effective more often.
Dunno if you'll see this comment, might just get burried, but have you considered the water serpent, Shailoq, for DB12 in place of an atk bar decrease? She has skill one 75% strip, skill two triple-hit max hp single-target atk bar decrease, and skill three triple-hit aoe atk bar decrease based on max hp. I feel like on a violent/focus set paired with Raoq or something she could be an absolute atk bar decrease and strip monster. Just some food for thought though.
Dayum, just looked at Shailoq and they also get 15spd awakening, so 115 Spd Base... save for the DefBreak that Loren brings, Shailoq is looking really smexy.
Shailoq is easily usable. I use the old Si**arus Spectra Belladeon Megan Veromos as in the good old days and it works fine. But it is as slow as it used to be. around 2:00.
You can also use Triton (Water Sylph) with high acc. and pref on violent as substitute for Lapis. With Spectra he always hits with 2cnd skill which does 2x -75% atb reduction - works also good, mine is even still 5 star😅
when he says that spectra should be faster, he means spectra can be as fast as needed to still take turn 2 after loren. He'll sometimes reach boss and use skill 2 first so if loren doesn't go first to def break you're wasting a huge amount of damage. I was failing because of this before frr, teams a lot better now : Verde, Khali, Spectra, raoq and loren.
Just use Belladeon if your loren is stupid like mine. This little dawg has a rly smart AI. Only uses 2nd skill if the dragon has immunity and in a wave Bella attacks different monsters to pushback the attackbar and spread the attackbreak.
@@mogo3269 wrong! Zaiross has 79 and his crystals have 80. These stats have been known since release. The only b12 monster with 100 res is gb12 mid boss that already had 100 in b10.
Important question tho, I have multiple teams set aside for me to work on to setup for endgame. What endgame content would you suggest to gun for first
Would Bella2A be a good replacement for Loren? If Loren is mainly used for her strip, ATB reduction, and def break, then I think Bella would be much safer. At least Bella is smarter with her strip skill. I am not trying to say you're wrong. This is just what I think, but if I am wrong, could someone explain why I am wrong. Thanks
Prospero Jimenez i thought it was an OR. Meaning a resistance check is done to determine resistance value, if that value is less than 15% it is increased to 15%
I built Lapis for this right after building a 2nd Raoq and realizing two 2A Raoqs are totally pointless. But with Lapis in the mix it's a lil less pointless
Have you ever shown this difference between the success rates of account with no speed tower uprgrades in the higher lvl dungeons compared to an account that has the speed tower at max? How much faster would people need their runes to be if they are missing the speed tower upgrade?
Instead of Raoq, can I use Kro instead tho?. I meant, I just came back to the game and when I quit back then, there was no 2a yet and Raoq was not actually a thing. I decided to build kro first when I first came back and I saw that Kro could do pretty much anything Raoq could except the passive.
working on spectra second awakening atm,i have 6*lapis but isnt water humanculus better also i have humanculus skill reset how do you think witch tree shold i go cleanse or frezze? verde spectra loren water humanculus fire inugami will work?
i really dont wanna farm db10 lol. Vio is pretty important in this team because a large part of the conistency is the fact that skills are always up. Verd gives more turns, Raoq lowers cooldowns with team up, lapis gets turns with s3 gets turns
Personally Bagel I use Verd Abigail ( 3rd skill maxed ) water humunculus spectra and Tatu 2a IT IS SO COOL TO SEE THE DRAGON'S LIfE GO HALF WAY DOWN with incinirate aha. It fails maybe one time over soooo many runs and thats it and my towers are not maxed yet I also Use seanb team with Verd Abigail Ken Spectra and Loren. Tatu 2a is really cool tho im surprised nobody makes a video about her. she is OP is toah as well Tatu 2a on violent spectra on violent abigail on violen as well verd on rage humunculus on violent
I built this team. Still failing a lot. Don't know where my issue is coming from. 100% accuracy on lapis and spectra... 99% on loren ... verd goes last. failing about 45% of the time. Maybe because my spectra isn't skilled up?
Why 100% acc? I thought max to aim for in B12s was 65? Wasn't it 85 and they changed it to 65? Can someone confirm this because I've been confused on this point for weeks thanks to Reddit.
For some reason (yeah.. probably my runes), I can't get this team to work.. at all! I used to be able to do db12 once in a while, but lately, its been eluding me completely.
In my experience Light ifrit is the best way around the high rune requirements. The problem is all he adds is a consistent strip so your 4 other monsters need to somewhat carry the team.
@@samt3647 my most consistent team with him is verde loren roaq and spectra. If that isn't safe enough Roaq can be replaced with a healer like fran/lulu or cc unit like lapis. I recommended having roaq though unless you have enough hp to tank attacks in db12. I take out the towers first against the mid boss however if you replace roaq you might not need to. I can give you their stats if want it. (Also water jack-o'-lantern is great at light ifrit's role. I just don't have him sadly.)
i do ATK/CD/ATK on my spectra because with verde there is no shortage of turns for him so for my case I don't need him to go first/second. also when Raoq pulls him, his S1 does a ton more damage this way. i slapped a S2 CD artifact on him so he S2 the boss for >50k. spectra is worth devilmon. I always take him for TOA/H 100, even before 2A.
I made a new account and I use Verde-Lapis-Spectra-Any damage hitter-Lulu. The first 3 is for speed. One attacker. One healer. And I have crappy 5* Rune, their skilled are not maxed except for the 2a.
I really don't understand SW i'm using verdehile spectra, loren, sigmarus, homunculus, and they fail the slow like 2 times in a row every single one of them and all of them have more than 85% accuracy. I tryed lapis insted of sigmarus and they fail the slow xD I'm really getting crazy with this game.
Bagel I'm a shìty player with shìty runes. Could you help bad luck players like me to improve the win rate on db12 with the right stats when you don't have the op,the good or the ok runes to make a save run
I never had problem with dragon B12: Verdehile Khmun Xion Fei Rica But Giant B12 been a pain: Chandra Belladeon Veromos Fran Elsharion Necropolis I can only do B11 reliable
Me: *watching video*
Bagel: showing all the units with Violent.
Me: I need to get violent to farm violent.....
Still me: ...back to db10
I got it to work the first time, but when I did repeat battles, damn Loren needs to reevaluate her life choices.
LOL!!!
“Nothing is 100% win rate”
Triple Icaru and Verde: “Hold my empty fifth slot”
If they never defense break, you die.
Nico Fo is it not infinite turns though thanks to turn cycling with Verde?
@@mocchasin432 No is not, 14 turns before dragon moves, that explains why you need Better than BJ5 runes on verde
TMD KNS guess mine will need work. Currently building the team. Verde is +1800 attack, 220 CD and 100 CR
I run Cadiz in my 5th slot and it kicks ass
"you're not using.." jokes ony you, my Lapis is one of my most used Monsters ^^
Raoq too, loren too,.....
Jokes on you my lapis is 5 star xD
@@zz_raoq U should 6* her, she is a good farmer faimon
@@zz_raoq jokes on you my lapis is 6 starred and maxed out
I use Linda
Accuracy Benchmarks
0% - Rift beasts
15% - Raids
24% - SF10/PC10
34% - Dimensional Hole
45% - GB10/NB10/TOA/TOAH
54% - GB12/NB12
55% - DB10
65% - DB12
85% - GB10+ for mid boss (used on def breaker in speed teams)
85% - PVP Bomber/Debuffer
100% is a waste by the way.
This is gold info
Well pvp 100% isn’t a waste but yeah most people don’t have a lot of monsters on 100% res
@@totallyawesomeusername9307 it is, every unit in the game has a 15% chance to resist a debuff no matter what, so 85 is the maximum accuracy you can have on a unit, anything above that is just a waste.
Dont agree with the 1st one as I've had mons miss important debuffs on rift beasts which hampered my scores multiple times and that's with 20-30% acc. They are decent now though.
I think on rift beasts it also was 15%, but yeah everything else is perfect (even included the gb12 midboss lolz) But if this dude named Shizophrenic Gamer goes on with giving such blatantly wrong info about his team like no skill ups needed or 100% acc needed im going to unsub him... aswell as abigail does the job of lapis A LOT better since she strips and lapis doesnt
Disclaimer: Your Spectra MUST be skilled up for this team.
Rendezvous On Memory Lane like the 2a spectra needs to be skilled up? Or just spectra in general
@@Whalev1 i devilmon'd my 2a spectra. he's way better skilled up.
@@Whalev1 has skll cooldown on s2 and rate up on s3 so yes he definitly needs to max s2 and s3
Zaleww 2a skilled up or normal
@@Whalev1 2a obviously
“Nothing is 100% win rate”
*My GB1 team*
chow lumirecia bastet praha mihyang. most op db1 team
JB: dont need insane runes.
ALso JB: shows +183 speed loren with +18kHP
JB: ". . . she's kinda on the faster side" LOL
as a mid-game player, this was something that was very frustrating for me. I've found that most of these large sw content creators are actually terrible at making teams for new players. They never consider rune quality, skill ups, towers, etc. They use their high quality runes and only focus on making a team purely for the mechanics of a monster, only when it is fully skilled up, has specific stats, etc. It is baffling, really.
I watch my loren not use 2nd skill 4 times in a row, ai is beyond in sw
eirgar is also stupid
@@ml7137 Yes eirgar was so bad in iron fortress just max skilled him now he works but he still needs 90-100 accuracy which is also stupid
bruh there funnier stuff like fran ignoring s3 for 4 turns , Lushen ignoring s3 for 4turns^^
@@ml7137 They did buff him an update or two ago in case u didnt know or does he still derp? lol
@@mtndewprettygud6416 still derp. Yes, less than before, but he still derp.
"i know some of you fed her"
me: *cowers in shame*
“Loren will always defense break”
My Loren:Are u challenging me?
Thanks so much for this bagel!, I have now found my stable and quite fast team just because of this! Loving it so far!
>"Verdehile just has to move everyone else on the team"
>moves before Lapis.
(Commenting on the description)
If you're at the point in the game where you can't make a water homunculus, you're also probably not ready for db12 anyway. And just to clarify, it doesn't work the same the other way, just because you have a water homunculus doesn't mean you are ready for db12.
The only problem with that team is that my Loren refuses to strip when the boss gets immunity, legit everytime she violate procs gets 5 turns and not once does she decide to strip
Super thank you bagel!!! I'm currently using this line up and IT REALLY EFFIN WORKS!!!!! 💪🏻♥️
Love how this is free to play friendly as well!
"No 100% team"... Icaru: I am a joke to you?
Cant thank you enough bagey. Ive been 6 staring all monster that i could to auto db12 and none succeed. When I watch this video I was like ' argh another 6 star wasted'. But turn out 2.30 minutes run with no fail. I know 2.30 is not that much but man, seeing 10/10 on auto db12 makes me feel like progressing.
I tweak your team a little bit.
Verde (L), Loren, Water Homun ( All lower skills), lapis, 2a Spectra with no skill up.
I've been saying that Lapis underrated. I've been using Abigail though for the extra strip and atb reduction.
Me too
You won’t need extra strip when you run Lapis... cause she has aoe atkbar reduction which means the immunity tower won’t move
@@noname1752 abigail also has aoe atb reduction genius
Yophono oh really? Didn’t know that 😅
No Name won’t movie mmmmm not sure about that ... what are the stats of your lapis
PSA: You should not have 100% acc on your monsters, 85% is the cap. For dragons, 65% is the cap and anything over that is a waste. Skill 3 acc artifact for spectra seriously decreases the rune requirement. If you can, put Spectra on violent, it will improve your run consistency. Swift is pointless on her (in dragons, not in general) because she has to be slower than Loren and she has insane base speed. Having Swift with slot 2 attack is fine, but not ideal because her damage comes from crit dmg, not attack. The more she spams skill 2, the faster your run, and the more she spams skill 3, the safer it is. If you can't do Violent, use some combination of Blade and Focus runes to get 100% cr and 65% acc, use a HP slot 6 and try to get as much crit dmg from subs.
What speed would you reccomend
very good comment thank you very much
@@mello9686 around +100 from runes I'd say
This is the best advice I've heard seen in a long time I can clear db11 now but my rune quality isnt quite there and I need to skill up 2a spectra
Correction: Spectra's Skill 2 is 350% of the ATK stat and 18% of the enemy's HP. CD is more effective than ATK, but it's still used. Her Skill 1 is speed and ATK based, but that's not as important.
Spectra is great to use Swift runes with DMG substats and no speed. These would be trash runes for most other units, but Spectra only needs +74 speed to be 200 total speed before towers and speed lead. 42 speed from Slot 2 and 25 from Swift set is already +67.
Since so many mons require Vio runes (especially for the new content), using "trash" swift for Spectra would be beneficial for a good portion of the playerbase.
I have been using the light Ifrit as tank + precision for dragon b12. I love him. He's stealing buffs non-stop. I use Loren, light Ifrit, Kro, Fran, Sigmarus and verdehile as leader. I usually get 9 out of 10 times on dragon b12.
U can Use 6units in your db12? That's unfair
Awesome idea! Keep testing building units. This team work like a charm👍✌
Oh my god, thanks for this, immediately trying my lapis and it works.. Mine replaced raoq with ken.
Tyrone is another good option.
I run Verde, Loren, Tyrone, Kro, Taor - 2:00 avg runs and 99% win rate (I've only failed once or twice since autofarming came out)
My Taor is also 65% acc, so that helps
I must say, thank you a lot man!!!!!!! LIKE A LOOOOOOOOOOTTT
Alacia AI sucks, especially in faimon.
She uses her s1, until there is 1 mon left, then uses an aoe attack
Great video, very helpul, wish we had you doing vids for heir of light, we literally have nobody doing videos on late game stratagies. Its an open market for gameplay help.
A good F2P replacement (makes run faster) for Loren is light homunculus. Purification (strip), Accelerate (heal + atb boost), and Rock On (team up + atk buff) build.
nice, i was looking for sb12 team, since i juz started again, and this actually made it work for me. thx alot
Just built this and it's not 100% spd tuned but seems to work anyways, thx man!
for once i can proudly say: i have zero problems with the stability of my db12 runs!
on an unrelated note, i also have yet to make it to db12 :P
I like using Elsharion. I haven’t skilled mine up at all, but he already steals the immunity for my whole team more often than my Bella or Loren actually strips it off. And they are either mostly or fully skilled up. His passive enables him to steal beneficial effects with any of his abilities, and that makes his strip/steal more effective more often.
can you share your line up? I have been using chilling, but failed nonetheless.
Dunno if you'll see this comment, might just get burried, but have you considered the water serpent, Shailoq, for DB12 in place of an atk bar decrease? She has skill one 75% strip, skill two triple-hit max hp single-target atk bar decrease, and skill three triple-hit aoe atk bar decrease based on max hp. I feel like on a violent/focus set paired with Raoq or something she could be an absolute atk bar decrease and strip monster. Just some food for thought though.
If serpents get a 2a I can see the water serpent being crazy good
I contacted the devs about the wording on her/his skills once, the damage is based on your max hp, not enemy max hp
Dayum, just looked at Shailoq and they also get 15spd awakening, so 115 Spd Base... save for the DefBreak that Loren brings, Shailoq is looking really smexy.
he made a shailoq vid for db10 a while ago. so im sure shailoq would be great in db12
Shailoq is easily usable. I use the old Si**arus Spectra Belladeon Megan Veromos as in the good old days and it works fine. But it is as slow as it used to be. around 2:00.
Me: BaGel nO mOrE fIrE M. BiSoN
Bagel: 😈
isnt 100% accuracy a waste given the cap of 85%?
How is your L/D account doing in the B12's?
Also Bagel, give a shot to Icaru instead of Raoq. He pulls 3 allies, which means he'll always pull at least Lapis or Loren! Love your vids!!
Been using Lapis for years now xD ain’t no secret to me she’s been useful. Especially after that balance patch a few years ago that made her OP
You can also use Triton (Water Sylph) with high acc. and pref on violent as substitute for Lapis. With Spectra he always hits with 2cnd skill which does 2x -75% atb reduction - works also good, mine is even still 5 star😅
Thanks for the tip to have verde as last to move. Makes my team more consistent. :)
when he says that spectra should be faster, he means spectra can be as fast as needed to still take turn 2 after loren. He'll sometimes reach boss and use skill 2 first so if loren doesn't go first to def break you're wasting a huge amount of damage.
I was failing because of this before frr, teams a lot better now : Verde, Khali, Spectra, raoq and loren.
I dont have problems with DB12, my problems are with DB11.....
same lmao
I fed my Lapis, then com2us gave me her again 4 times from toa legendaries
Same here, god bless them, i kept them all and now mine is max skilled lol cool
8:03
JewBagel: Spectra is not that fast.
Me: +80 spd I guess is good on my Spectra.
Verde, SA Bella, Aegir, Chilling, SA Spectra is my team. It's very consistent.
I'm hesitating since lapis is my farmer and idk what's gonna happen if i rerune her to accuracy.
Pray for dupe!
I mean her third skill is pretty reliable for healing since its a 3 turn cooldown
Just use Belladeon if your loren is stupid like mine. This little dawg has a rly smart AI. Only uses 2nd skill if the dragon has immunity and in a wave Bella attacks different monsters to pushback the attackbar and spread the attackbreak.
I don’t even have my lapis anymore
100% accuracy is a waste. You only need 65% since the dragon has 80 res
David Cooper Zairos has 100 resistance. In my opinion, 85 accuracy is better for safe runs.
@@mogo3269 wrong! Zaiross has 79 and his crystals have 80. These stats have been known since release. The only b12 monster with 100 res is gb12 mid boss that already had 100 in b10.
David Cooper really? I didn’t know that. thank you
bro if u play this game long enuff you'll realise that no matter how much acc u have u still get cucked XD
Is bagel gonna upload another episode of Giana project...
Important question tho, I have multiple teams set aside for me to work on to setup for endgame. What endgame content would you suggest to gun for first
Would Bella2A be a good replacement for Loren? If Loren is mainly used for her strip, ATB reduction, and def break, then I think Bella would be much safer. At least Bella is smarter with her strip skill. I am not trying to say you're wrong. This is just what I think, but if I am wrong, could someone explain why I am wrong. Thanks
why do you get 100% acc if there is always a 15% chance resist?
Because if you have 85% acc that 15% chance will make you have 70%acc, but if you have 100% acc you will have the 85% ideal
Prospero Jimenez i thought it was an OR. Meaning a resistance check is done to determine resistance value, if that value is less than 15% it is increased to 15%
@@prosperojimenez9612 bruh thats not how it works
Sounded like a Buck Rogers throwback
Now what are the tunes for best Nat 4s that would be a super helpful video🎉
lol lapis fed mine at the start
I built Lapis for this right after building a 2nd Raoq and realizing two 2A Raoqs are totally pointless. But with Lapis in the mix it's a lil less pointless
jokes on u, 2 2a raoqs are insane almost anywhere 😂
InfeRn0's Oracle nope, need 3 or 1
Have you ever shown this difference between the success rates of account with no speed tower uprgrades in the higher lvl dungeons compared to an account that has the speed tower at max? How much faster would people need their runes to be if they are missing the speed tower upgrade?
Instead of Raoq, can I use Kro instead tho?. I meant, I just came back to the game and when I quit back then, there was no 2a yet and Raoq was not actually a thing. I decided to build kro first when I first came back and I saw that Kro could do pretty much anything Raoq could except the passive.
Isn't more than 65% acc redundant?
working on spectra second awakening atm,i have 6*lapis but isnt water humanculus better also i have humanculus skill reset how do you think witch tree shold i go cleanse or frezze? verde spectra loren water humanculus fire inugami will work?
i really dont wanna farm db10 lol. Vio is pretty important in this team because a large part of the conistency is the fact that skills are always up. Verd gives more turns, Raoq lowers cooldowns with team up, lapis gets turns with s3 gets turns
thanks for the info bagel
I use Verd, Spectra 2A, Loren, Water Homu, Tyron. Very safe but fairly slow, however my runes aren't great so i'd say this is a very good safe team.
I've seen Spectra on so many sets, is he better on Swift or Violent? Mine has no skill ups if that makes a difference.
do you think marble would be good to on cd he could make team really fast with his s3 doing enemy max hp dmg and it being on a 3 turn cooldown
Personally Bagel I use Verd Abigail ( 3rd skill maxed ) water humunculus spectra and Tatu 2a IT IS SO COOL TO SEE THE DRAGON'S LIfE GO HALF WAY DOWN with incinirate aha. It fails maybe one time over soooo many runs and thats it and my towers are not maxed yet I also Use seanb team with Verd Abigail Ken Spectra and Loren.
Tatu 2a is really cool tho im surprised nobody makes a video about her. she is OP is toah as well
Tatu 2a on violent spectra on violent abigail on violen as well verd on rage humunculus on violent
To think in 2022 we get everything + free materials to 6* lapis now
lapis to water cannon girls? and ken for branding and strip on s2 decent? can you try this bagel?
Wondering why you put 100% acc instead of 85%.
you cant reduce resistance below 15% so there is no point going above 85% right?
...The Griffins... THE GRIFFINS... ThE GrIfFiNs!
I built this team. Still failing a lot. Don't know where my issue is coming from. 100% accuracy on lapis and spectra... 99% on loren ... verd goes last. failing about 45% of the time. Maybe because my spectra isn't skilled up?
Saw this video, excited, tried it out. Failed instantly xD
time to build my lapis after 3 years on storage sitting at 5 stars
How does the roaq teamup mechanic work? how come he always attacks with your lapis?
Pretty cool, I just leave Lapis on DESP / REV, to manage the trash waves, and it works fine. [SPD/HP/ACC]
Same team, same runes (my loren is 3 slower), 2:30 is my fastest clear. Is this because I have no skill ups on Raoq, Spectra, and Lapis?
Isn't there a cap on accuracy for dragon? 100% seems wasteful
65 for Dragons
LionGame100 they do have high resis but I hear it’s 70%?
Yes 65 is the target - midboss wants more maybe.
@@diregarath5986 no its 65.
@@DoKillaEnte I said 65 is the target. Is midboss for dragons not annoying like giants? I haven't noticed.
... but what if the fourth thing goes wrong?
8:06 I recognize that rune from an old video..... not sure if good memory or just watch too much bagel
Why 100% acc? I thought max to aim for in B12s was 65? Wasn't it 85 and they changed it to 65? Can someone confirm this because I've been confused on this point for weeks thanks to Reddit.
Bagel you blew past Lorenz runes bruh. what was slot 2/4 & 6?
For some reason (yeah.. probably my runes), I can't get this team to work.. at all! I used to be able to do db12 once in a while, but lately, its been eluding me completely.
In my experience Light ifrit is the best way around the high rune requirements. The problem is all he adds is a consistent strip so your 4 other monsters need to somewhat carry the team.
@@joshuam7749 thanks for the input . What unit should I replace with Elsharion?
@@samt3647 my most consistent team with him is verde loren roaq and spectra. If that isn't safe enough Roaq can be replaced with a healer like fran/lulu or cc unit like lapis. I recommended having roaq though unless you have enough hp to tank attacks in db12. I take out the towers first against the mid boss however if you replace roaq you might not need to. I can give you their stats if want it. (Also water jack-o'-lantern is great at light ifrit's role. I just don't have him sadly.)
I have been running dragon using Verde, Loren, Lapis, Vero and my hidden MVP, Lulu!
i do ATK/CD/ATK on my spectra because with verde there is no shortage of turns for him so for my case I don't need him to go first/second. also when Raoq pulls him, his S1 does a ton more damage this way. i slapped a S2 CD artifact on him so he S2 the boss for >50k. spectra is worth devilmon. I always take him for TOA/H 100, even before 2A.
65% Acc is enough for DB12, everything above it would be wasted stats
does that mean it will work all the time or anything above it won't make a difference
@@zenokwon1177 anything above does not make a difference
I’ve been using Verde/Spectra/Loren/Taor/Poseidon with good success. About 95% with 2 min average.
Does lapis need to be on dispair focus or vio? Or the normal free rune
I know this came out a year ago but I was wondering if I can swap vio focus for despair / focus on lapis on spd/hp/accuracy?
I made a new account and I use Verde-Lapis-Spectra-Any damage hitter-Lulu.
The first 3 is for speed.
One attacker.
One healer.
And I have crappy 5* Rune, their skilled are not maxed except for the 2a.
I really don't understand SW i'm using verdehile spectra, loren, sigmarus, homunculus, and they fail the slow like 2 times in a row every single one of them and all of them have more than 85% accuracy. I tryed lapis insted of sigmarus and they fail the slow xD I'm really getting crazy with this game.
Are you going to make a video about the triple icaru db12 team? Would be interesting for many of your viewers that are struggling in db12
Personne the people that struggle in db12 don’t have rune requirements for triple Icaru
Æ Oreo1sGood yea maybe you’re right, although the team isn’t that hard to build
very nice farmable team bagel. im using verde elsharion kro loren and spectra rn avg 2min and its 99% safe without op runes
Bagel I'm a shìty player with shìty runes. Could you help bad luck players like me to improve the win rate on db12 with the right stats when you don't have the op,the good or the ok runes to make a save run
Finally a video I can relate too I suck so much lol I don’t know good team comps
What do you do if you hate lorens design? Really don’t want to use her cuz I kinda hate her look
DAT RAOK AT THE START THO O.O
I never had problem with dragon B12: Verdehile Khmun Xion Fei Rica
But Giant B12 been a pain: Chandra Belladeon Veromos Fran Elsharion
Necropolis I can only do B11 reliable
Do you suggest using Water Amazon or Tyron ?
Why 100% accuracy when the benchmark in db12 is set to 65%? Isn't that pure waste of stats that can be taken more advantage of in other stats?