Jewbagel! I just wanted to say thank you for the years of entertainment and advice! Unfortunately after years of struggling with com2us's bogus rune rates, summon rates and lack of security (I've had 2 out of 3 accounts stolen from me) i have decided to give up on this wonderfuly heart breaking game. Best of luck and once again thank you!
Upgrading an artifact to +12 while only failing a couple times blew my mind.... I will fail literally 30 times trying to upgrade to +12 on runes or artifacts :/
ah yes +150 speed while maintaining other stats... "mid game" lmao. Those are post game. You compare your account to chinese whale RTA accounts too much XD
There's no such thing as "post game" in summoners war, considering it never actually ends. If you mean end game, that's still wrong. People think mid game means "I beat gb10, db10, and ToA! Now I'm mid game!". If you're spending your time and crystals efficiently, you can easily have this rune quality.
@@reecedactyl You need to farm more runes. If you farm enough runes and grinds, you will eventually get good rolls. You also don't need high speed for PvE content, it's purely for PvP.
Hello, nice Vid as Always, If you're planning on doing a vid on NB12 aswell you should try a 2A light griffin I'm pretty sure he can do nasty damages on the Boss! :D
Lexx there better stuff than hum tho and in that build he can’t do that much damage and the dots won’t do anything if you’re decreasing attack gauge. You should choose another aoe dps unit that can also either manipulate attack gauge, stun/freeze or scale damage off max hp
verde, SA bella&spectra, aegir and chilling. Fusion/guildshop/farmable team. It's working really well for me. Still no skillups on SA bella nor spectra.
Why is nobody talking about Lapis?!?! She is great for DB12. Use fast Vio or fast despair or use with Raoq or Kro... has more crowd control than water Homunculus and his dots do nothing for the boss
Because while her s1 is decent, she has only one chance to reduce atb on s3. Homu's DoTs help with the towers and his s2 is a multihit. Fast Despair/Vio is also *extremely* hard on Lapis since her base speed is 90. She also only reduces 25% on s3 and 75% on s1 (assuming that 50% activation proc'd and didnt get resisted). DB12 requires stupid amount of speed, accuracy, *and* requires near-absolute atb reduction (lil chance of being resisted as possible) so in that department, Homu wins. Source: I am a Lapis owner that has 4 Lapis'
water homie isn't really necessary since the enemy shouldnt be getting turns. I'm running Tyron, loren, Lapis, Raoq, Verde in that order. All but Loren are on dmg build and good accuracy on lapis. Out of 25 runs, the boss got immunity put on once, loren stripped after 2 turns and still won. Very F2P.
That’s just an extra activation proc. So he procs first if he crits, then it goes through acc/resistance proc. If you have no acc, it still won’t land often even with 100 cr.
Verde, loren, rica, water hommie and tatu. Very very good team. Tatu detonate dots. my the best time is 1:09 and stable time is 2:00. Max speed have loren and it is 205 on violent.
I am using the dark homunculus in my DB12 team and her S2 strip that I set up (entire top path) is a smart strip. She only uses it when/if the dragon gets his immunity. On another note, Sigmarus mostly needs crit rate to land his S2 and 3 freezes. Mine tends to land his S3 freeze with garbage accuracy as long as he crits. Also, also, I am wondering how effective the water string master would be against the DB12 boss. Being able to passively blocks his immunity without worrying about the right crystal (obviously you still need a stripper for when the song is on CD) and also putting immunity on herself.
Not sure how much this information matters to anyone, but Lucifer is great in DB12, if you pair him with things that do dmg based on HP like Sig and Spec, the boss never gets a turn.
Doesn't he really read the comments? I just want him to notice me that's all😔.i'll leave right after.i just wanr my famous summoners war youtuber to notice me because you are a part of the reason why i keep playing summoners war when i get down in the dumps.also your funny.hope this workd🤗
@@thelos3999 You can farm the rift beasts, even if you do not kill them, it will just take longer as you do not get a lot of elemental crystals from not killing them.
hi bagel, been a fan for years, ive based my b10 teams before by the stat of the monsters. e.g. minimum speed of my gb10 monster at 151 speed since gian is rated at 15speed.. making my mons capable of two attacks w/o slows and attack bar deductions. now as gb12, is applying a minimum 181 speed on monsters a viable strategy? or make in reverse, pure damage/bruiser instead? wishing for a reply.
I have to wonder if these new dungeons were designed to make accuracy runes more useful so people will stop complaining about how many runes are awful.
Bella is for strip and def break so no, can't be replaced for Megan. Tyron is for CC and atk bar reduction, vigor does neither of those. Bella and tyron are better choices for sure but u can probably still make that work somehow
I am using Poseidon in my db12 team. It's not exactly this combo, but I like him a lot. I'm running Verde, Poseidon, Spectra, Loren, Lapis, and its really consistent. Not the fastest, but it works
I know people normally post these things in your email. For the life of me I forgot it. However I do have a challenge for you. Been playing the game a bit and I have some fairly unusual units but I know it's possible to build a team and perhaps you could help. Since you have the experience. I've heard what I should build or who I should build. However I want to try and make effective teams without building new units (so no bella fran or verde)
The most ambitious Verdehile of 2020... Rage: Shield Legends
Jewbagel! I just wanted to say thank you for the years of entertainment and advice! Unfortunately after years of struggling with com2us's bogus rune rates, summon rates and lack of security (I've had 2 out of 3 accounts stolen from me) i have decided to give up on this wonderfuly heart breaking game. Best of luck and once again thank you!
Awww I’m sorry to hear buddy. Hope you feel it was the right choice cuz this game is something else... I just had a 6 month break after a 4 year break
if this account is mid-game, then my account must be early early early game :'(
We are all in the same boat
im with you
Yep
they dont understand casual is 2 hours at most per day
I feel this unfortunately
Bagel: look these shit runes
Me: look like mine best ones :')
I was just thinking the same thing :)
i agree with u. specially in a early game. im still at 200 days in my account
@@deejay9842 200 days and still early game? What have you been doing for 6 months? Farming gb7 or something haha?
Thx for the video man
Just made my team for db12 with: verd, loren,kro,2A spectra and verad
exactly my team as well
Same team but I've been using Raoq instead of Kro, the constant team ups ads like 5% more successes (at least to me)
I really like Lapis for DB12. She has AoE attack gauge decrease on skills 1 and 3, and she's fully free to play
Agree
I was dumb and fed her to orochi
@@mopeder21 Rip you shouldn't have done that
whats ur team??
@@deejay9842 Fran Loren lapis raoq and kro
I was actually able to make this work. Wow thank you so much dude 😂
Upgrading an artifact to +12 while only failing a couple times blew my mind.... I will fail literally 30 times trying to upgrade to +12 on runes or artifacts :/
ah yes +150 speed while maintaining other stats... "mid game" lmao. Those are post game. You compare your account to chinese whale RTA accounts too much XD
There's no such thing as "post game" in summoners war, considering it never actually ends. If you mean end game, that's still wrong. People think mid game means "I beat gb10, db10, and ToA! Now I'm mid game!". If you're spending your time and crystals efficiently, you can easily have this rune quality.
just do a 3min dungeon team for like a month and probably by the end of that month, youll be able to easily lower it.
@@_myst_4267 yeh aight.. until your speed rolls never upgrade
@@reecedactyl You need to farm more runes. If you farm enough runes and grinds, you will eventually get good rolls. You also don't need high speed for PvE content, it's purely for PvP.
FARM GIANTS, WAS I CLEAR? FARM GIANTS IF YOU WANT+150 SPD WITH CONSISTENT STATS
22:48 that, my friend, was the most beatiful sound I ever heard toady XD
I wasn’t auto farm 11 or 12 before seeing this video after a couple hours of working on runes n changing my team I’m now farming gb12 on auto💪🏾 Glooks
Hello, nice Vid as Always,
If you're planning on doing a vid on NB12 aswell you should try a 2A light griffin I'm pretty sure he can do nasty damages on the Boss! :D
Thanks for the guide, i used the same team but slower bcoz no skill ups but works fine. 👍👍👍
Tbh all you need was the tyron and spectra as you’re decrease attack gauge humoncules doesn’t really need to be there
so would verd, bella, spectra, tyron, sig work?
Homu is for better waveclear as well as boss damage
Lexx there better stuff than hum tho and in that build he can’t do that much damage and the dots won’t do anything if you’re decreasing attack gauge. You should choose another aoe dps unit that can also either manipulate attack gauge, stun/freeze or scale damage off max hp
@@JuanRomero-pg7xd maybe run kro?
@@sidhantsheela5367 fire homie would work, good damage and usable in pc10
clicked on a video called "Building a Dragons B12" and i look up and see ice beast and rune management lul
verde, SA bella&spectra, aegir and chilling.
Fusion/guildshop/farmable team. It's working really well for me.
Still no skillups on SA bella nor spectra.
Hey jew, i went in a siege war with your guild here and fought against Lilsnoopy, he needs more work and love
Hi Jew, ty for the guides you are the best
Bagel the Wind Art Master has 2 AOEs with one of them as a strip :)
Tune in for bagel’s next twitch stream when he yells at everyone for not watching this video lol
Tyron is awesome, great Team comp, love it !!!
Yeah... 8:25 got excited and collected it.. forgot about the expiration dates on gift box...uuuuuuggggghhhh..
Last time I was this early to a bagel video he got banned
Why is nobody talking about Lapis?!?! She is great for DB12. Use fast Vio or fast despair or use with Raoq or Kro... has more crowd control than water Homunculus and his dots do nothing for the boss
Because while her s1 is decent, she has only one chance to reduce atb on s3. Homu's DoTs help with the towers and his s2 is a multihit. Fast Despair/Vio is also *extremely* hard on Lapis since her base speed is 90. She also only reduces 25% on s3 and 75% on s1 (assuming that 50% activation proc'd and didnt get resisted). DB12 requires stupid amount of speed, accuracy, *and* requires near-absolute atb reduction (lil chance of being resisted as possible) so in that department, Homu wins.
Source: I am a Lapis owner that has 4 Lapis'
Hi Bagel, would you so kind to make a video about non f2p options for new b12 dungeons?
water homie isn't really necessary since the enemy shouldnt be getting turns. I'm running Tyron, loren, Lapis, Raoq, Verde in that order. All but Loren are on dmg build and good accuracy on lapis. Out of 25 runs, the boss got immunity put on once, loren stripped after 2 turns and still won. Very F2P.
I use Verd, Spectra, Loren, Tyron, Water Homu. Works like a charm
Thought sigmarus' cc goes off if he crits or not. I could be wrong as I suck at this game lol. Love your vids though
That’s just an extra activation proc. So he procs first if he crits, then it goes through acc/resistance proc. If you have no acc, it still won’t land often even with 100 cr.
Please try the fire Pixie, I feel she could make a very fast team here :)
Verde, loren, rica, water hommie and tatu. Very very good team. Tatu detonate dots. my the best time is 1:09 and stable time is 2:00. Max speed have loren and it is 205 on violent.
Song name please? (0:00 - 5:20)
Came for the Bagel and informative video, stayed for the music, and Bagel =D
I am using the dark homunculus in my DB12 team and her S2 strip that I set up (entire top path) is a smart strip. She only uses it when/if the dragon gets his immunity.
On another note, Sigmarus mostly needs crit rate to land his S2 and 3 freezes. Mine tends to land his S3 freeze with garbage accuracy as long as he crits.
Also, also, I am wondering how effective the water string master would be against the DB12 boss. Being able to passively blocks his immunity without worrying about the right crystal (obviously you still need a stripper for when the song is on CD) and also putting immunity on herself.
Not sure how much this information matters to anyone, but Lucifer is great in DB12, if you pair him with things that do dmg based on HP like Sig and Spec, the boss never gets a turn.
Could you also try kind of a tanky-bruiser fire inugami with high accuracy? Extra defence break and skill cooldowns for the team
Try tyron w kro in place of homi and bella. reaazzlly safe and 1.30 to 2 min average. not exactly f2p but very attainable
Bagel crushes my soul again..."this is a basic mid-game account...see these runes are like...nothing"
They're better than most of mine...
sigh
Doesn't he really read the comments? I just want him to notice me that's all😔.i'll leave right after.i just wanr my famous summoners war youtuber to notice me because you are a part of the reason why i keep playing summoners war when i get down in the dumps.also your funny.hope this workd🤗
hes streaming on twitch reading all comments and responsing a lot.
just gota say this video took m,y dragon team from 5min+ to 2 min im so ecstatic!!!!
tyron my fave nat4, i also use him in db12
MY B12 TEAM HAS BEEN NOTICED!!!
What about Abigail? Got her from the HoH haven't built her yet. Would she be good here?
I was wondering that too. I don't have tyron and not strong enough to farm homun evolve
@@thelos3999 You can farm the rift beasts, even if you do not kill them, it will just take longer as you do not get a lot of elemental crystals from not killing them.
11:10 and here i thought i was in mid game for the past year
That rune is not even that good lol it's a purple with grinds
do you need max level towers to do b12 teams?
ah you do have this video, okay thanks for the tyron :D
Bagel, can you try Verde Fran kro ageir Tyron?
i like that most of them on swift, like hes telling you to farm Giants first for some runes that are better than mine D:
have you done a spotlight on light griffon after 2A launched?
Lapis cough cough Lapis... best CC and even better with team up
I can beat gb12 but it's not consistent. I'm trying to work on the db12 team bagel suggested few videos ago.
Water homie was a great addition to my gb12 team, it's actually super reliable
Does this mean the cheese cake challenge won't be a thing now? :(
ok bagel, now we want to see you make a 30 second b12 team
btw u can replace Belladeon with 2a Tatu (fire pixie) goes way faster ^_^ i use Verde, water hommie, Tyron, Tatu and Spectra. perfect :3
1:30 avg dot team: veromos (L), tatu, sath, water homie, 2a spectra
hi bagel, been a fan for years, ive based my b10 teams before by the stat of the monsters. e.g. minimum speed of my gb10 monster at 151 speed since gian is rated at 15speed.. making my mons capable of two attacks w/o slows and attack bar deductions. now as gb12, is applying a minimum 181 speed on monsters a viable strategy? or make in reverse, pure damage/bruiser instead? wishing for a reply.
This isn't related to this vid but have you tried Sera for PC10?
And have you tried a tatu dot team for db12?
Could you use Megan for me? In place of either water hom or spectra. Curious about 3 strips two of which are smart strips
And maybe switch Loren for hwa. I’m trying to build a super safe team but am limited
Skill up that dang Loren.
Bagel, what about a DB12 team with Poseidon?
Hey can you try verd, spectra martina , tyron talia or shiana
Man, how do you know whats the blue,purple or a legend runes if they're all in +15
I have to wonder if these new dungeons were designed to make accuracy runes more useful so people will stop complaining about how many runes are awful.
Not a good design whatsoever
nah
I just got taor. I think he could be the link to solve my dragons b12 problem
If the enemy isn’t going to take a turn, couldn’t u switch Bella for kro?
Would verad be better than tyron you think?
where can you get grindstones with higher stats?
I like the video, but i'm just sad that you are not using Martina for this
Newbie here. Just want to ask. Can I have spectra as my first 2A instead ok Kro/Belladeon?
Go for kro, all rounder unit and deals ton of damage which will make your runs faster.
morning, if you don't have homuculus, are there other alternatives, sir?
Tyron stealing the DB12Slayer's show, damn it
Can it be alice instead of the hommunculous its stil hard for me to gather the pieces i need
how in the hell did you get the material to get him in the first place
Why that much acc on some monsters, isnt 65% enought for db12?
Im not the only person who built sophia!
Song name please Bagel? 0:00 - 5:20
Don't have water homi, what do you think if I replaced him with Rica?
im gonna take it hope it rolls speed slot 6 flat hp
prefer Water Amazon or Tyron for DB12?
why not kro instead of sig?
Can we change bella to megan so megan give attk buff and use vigor to change tyron for heal + speed up to others ?
Bella is for strip and def break so no, can't be replaced for Megan. Tyron is for CC and atk bar reduction, vigor does neither of those. Bella and tyron are better choices for sure but u can probably still make that work somehow
How does poseiden work in this combo in place of tyron?
I am using Poseidon in my db12 team. It's not exactly this combo, but I like him a lot. I'm running Verde, Poseidon, Spectra, Loren, Lapis, and its really consistent. Not the fastest, but it works
why is my rune quality in pre-tutorial mode
Does anyone know how many scrolls you would need for an own summing video?
bro im actually use ur strategy with almost the same stat only the crit rate on spectra 34% but still cannot b12 dragon
is better farm b12 in 4 minutes or b10 in 1 minute ?
Can i use siggy instead of tyron?
Com2us: *Release massive update*
Content Creators: I can milk this.
With this much control, you could just replace Belladeon for 2A Tatu.
Who replaces chiwu in sf10?
what's the runes of homun?
I don’t get how this is budget with a homunculus included lol thats for sure out of my budget at the moment
What about some pc teams im having super trouble
what are minimum stats to run it?
I know people normally post these things in your email. For the life of me I forgot it. However I do have a challenge for you. Been playing the game a bit and I have some fairly unusual units but I know it's possible to build a team and perhaps you could help. Since you have the experience. I've heard what I should build or who I should build. However I want to try and make effective teams without building new units (so no bella fran or verde)
Man spent 100k to get that artifact from 0 to +12. Lol if I do that im likely to be there watching failed upgrades for a few mins. bye bye 1 mil mana
Verde(L) water homu Loren DUO 2a Spectra
WHATS ABOUT GLORY TOWERS?
Okay...some of your runes for Verde and Spectra were pretty bad even by my standards...I feel slightly better now
Bagel pls skill max your loren 😂
Ur sigmarus is beautiful..
Triton has 2 aoe and one is a strip
everything is fully skilled LMFAO