Funny enough it’s so much but I wouldn’t classify it as a drum machine. Maybe in the classical modular oldschool Moog Modular sense. But in my music it rocks those atonal melodies like a trooper
@maikvanrossum go for it. I have them both and the lab is worlds apart. Don't get me wrong, the DFAM is fun, but I found it frustrating and limited at times. Out the box the Labrynth is so easy to use and the sequencer is just epic! To avoid over accumulation of gear I will be parting ways with my DFAM.
The Edge is a definitely a great alternative 👌🏻 just like the Crave when it comes to the M32. Behringer really nailed it here 👍🏻 Where the Crave even has a more of a Moog ladder style filter, the Edge does not. But I think that’s even in favor of the Edge vs the DFAM. In the meantime I’ve added the Moog Subharmonicon, and I’m still on the fence for the Labyrinth. What is it you’re aiming for with the Syncussion?
I teach a quantizer some messed up scale. Surgeon is good for finding a unfound scale. Then push is hard, just two voices with some rhythm independent of the notes. Like Euclidean, punch out a Latin beat on pad, etc. DFAM!!!
It’s a trip. Like I said. My music theory tells me it’s wrong. The adrenaline and the dance floor tell me otherwise. It made for a whole new world of unexpected transitions that work but would let any music educator to suicidal tendencies
Ah I got excited and went to buy tickets for fringe fest but it’s Dublin not Edinburgh 😭 If you’re ever round my way I’ll def come see you live, have a great gig dude. Also I don’t have a set but I got a bunch of jams, I’ll see if I can get something together soon for the session requests you mentioned: ua-cam.com/video/J09Po7deMG8/v-deo.htmlsi=m95Rro3GyrtzRBl7
I think it’s hard to not get things in tune. Most notes relate to one another in some shape or form. But I did see some getting caught up in the title. Atonal means in this case it being devoid of any ‘two dimensional’ melody. In a ‘old McDonald’ type one finger melody. The interactions now are more organic and of technological origin. My two cents
@@AnalogKitchen Sevish is the most well known artist in this area, he shares a nice scala file collection with some far out ones that has like 20 notes per half step. But yeah its still music rather than noise but its very stretched out tonally.
@tresporros Not really brother. The Atonality works if your new element does a similar idea. In this video you see me add multiple atonal samples together. The trick with this type of sound is that apart from its musical (or non musical or tonal) content the thing that drives it is the rhythmical pattern structure. And people will respond to rhythm in a more rudimentary way then melodies. There are more people that can’t sing than people that dance off beat (even though I encounter many of them often on my dance floors haha, bless them). So most atonal producers think rhythmically to. Ty and play some of the atonal sounds without a beat or direction (say anything other than a 4x4 beat) and feel how it is now open for a rather different interpretation of what you’re hearing. I might do a follow up video explaining this. Cheers!
Atonal?? That`s music without a tonal centre like in works by Alban Berg, or A. Schoenberg in 1912/13 ..well...I think this term is a bit misleading here, sorry
DFAM is legendary. Its so much more than a weird drum machine, its a beefy monosynth in its own right. So much love for that unit.
Funny enough it’s so much but I wouldn’t classify it as a drum machine. Maybe in the classical modular oldschool Moog Modular sense. But in my music it rocks those atonal melodies like a trooper
Speedy J and his Stoor is a consummate professional techno maker, he was superb back in 1992 and still smashes it today
100% agree. I saw him yesterday at R2 Festival Amsterdam. He had Colin Benders up there as well
Brilliant! This is my favourite kind of techno. Minimal and hard, atonal. You are a genius, thanks for this video!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks again 🙏🏻 really enjoyed this one 😎 Really inspirational and good vibes, too 👍🏻
Thanks @maikvanrossum. I’ll see you at Wooferland
44:15 jam is fire
Thanks for being so generous with your information & passion, as well as giving airtime to the community. You are a god amongst men. 🙌
Thank you! We’ve been building this house for a while now! Thanks for watching!
dope
Thanks!
Your videos are always so inspiring, thank you!
Thanks! And you for watching!
One of my favorits educational video from U, thks music master !!!!
Glad you dig it! Hope you’re doing well!!
If you like the Dfam, you need to try the labrynth.
Thanks for this comment 😅 I thought I had my #GAS under control holding off on the Labyrinth… should I consult a shrink, or simply go for it…? 🫣😅
@maikvanrossum go for it. I have them both and the lab is worlds apart. Don't get me wrong, the DFAM is fun, but I found it frustrating and limited at times. Out the box the Labrynth is so easy to use and the sequencer is just epic! To avoid over accumulation of gear I will be parting ways with my DFAM.
@@MrJ-b1n yes, as I have a Moog Subharmonicon, next to a Behringer Edge and Crave, I’m considering the Labyrinth to complete my ‘MoBeh’ sound studio.
@@maikvanrossum Do it. You won't be disappointed :)
You are both giving me GAS!
Proper pure Techno!! 😎
Cheers Glenn!
I use the Edge from Behringer and that is always great. as nect i buy a Syncussion....and that´s kinda cool.
The Edge is a definitely a great alternative 👌🏻 just like the Crave when it comes to the M32. Behringer really nailed it here 👍🏻 Where the Crave even has a more of a Moog ladder style filter, the Edge does not. But I think that’s even in favor of the Edge vs the DFAM. In the meantime I’ve added the Moog Subharmonicon, and I’m still on the fence for the Labyrinth. What is it you’re aiming for with the Syncussion?
I’m looking into the syncussion. Not had it pass my desk yet
I teach a quantizer some messed up scale. Surgeon is good for finding a unfound scale. Then push is hard, just two voices with some rhythm independent of the notes. Like Euclidean, punch out a Latin beat on pad, etc. DFAM!!!
What quantizer are you using?
Atonal techno is just modern electronic jazz, finding the notes between the notes that just sound great to your core
I've studied jazz. It's true what your are saying
I love dissonance when done right; especially when mixing records.
It’s a trip. Like I said. My music theory tells me it’s wrong. The adrenaline and the dance floor tell me otherwise. It made for a whole new world of unexpected transitions that work but would let any music educator to suicidal tendencies
YU4X live set rocks.
Thanks! 🙏
Great video. I final know what kind of music I try to make😅
Hahaha. It’s one of those ‘hidden in plain sight’ type techno sounds!
Ah I got excited and went to buy tickets for fringe fest but it’s Dublin not Edinburgh 😭 If you’re ever round my way I’ll def come see you live, have a great gig dude.
Also I don’t have a set but I got a bunch of jams, I’ll see if I can get something together soon for the session requests you mentioned:
ua-cam.com/video/J09Po7deMG8/v-deo.htmlsi=m95Rro3GyrtzRBl7
I do a melodic version of this using microtonal synths so it sounds "out of tune" except for Pythagoris it sounds correct.
I think it’s hard to not get things in tune. Most notes relate to one another in some shape or form. But I did see some getting caught up in the title. Atonal means in this case it being devoid of any ‘two dimensional’ melody. In a ‘old McDonald’ type one finger melody. The interactions now are more organic and of technological origin. My two cents
@@AnalogKitchen Sevish is the most well known artist in this area, he shares a nice scala file collection with some far out ones that has like 20 notes per half step. But yeah its still music rather than noise but its very stretched out tonally.
the only problem with atonal techno, or any other atonal music is adding another element from another instrument...
Only play multiple notes on a single synth, the rest only play a single note. Problem solved
@@ghostinplainsight4803 yes, but the way I read it, I think he means bringing in totally new elements without breaking the flow…?
@tresporros Not really brother. The Atonality works if your new element does a similar idea. In this video you see me add multiple atonal samples together. The trick with this type of sound is that apart from its musical (or non musical or tonal) content the thing that drives it is the rhythmical pattern structure. And people will respond to rhythm in a more rudimentary way then melodies. There are more people that can’t sing than people that dance off beat (even though I encounter many of them often on my dance floors haha, bless them). So most atonal producers think rhythmically to. Ty and play some of the atonal sounds without a beat or direction (say anything other than a 4x4 beat) and feel how it is now open for a rather different interpretation of what you’re hearing. I might do a follow up video explaining this. Cheers!
@tresporros @ghostinplainsight4803 @maikvanrossum thanks for this wonderful musical discussion. See my above mentioned response
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Can I get you a tissue?
I do not like the Dfam, to rudimentary
Atonal?? That`s music without a tonal centre like in works by Alban Berg, or A. Schoenberg in 1912/13 ..well...I think this term is a bit misleading here, sorry
The guy drops an in depth passionate video and this is your contribution? It's clear what he is talking about
Is not easy way to say how hard you can go with dissonance to get nice sound ?? 😅
You’re so right!
Speedy J and his Stoor is a consummate professional techno maker, he was superb back in 1992 and still smashes it today